[kj] hi leigh.... inside exremities and no way out(2006)

[melinda grant]

hi leigh ;-)


yeah,i was only really talking about k.j/transmission any music related to 
then--or bands ect, concerning stuff that is still available to buy still  
i.e not deleeted ect

dont think i made that clear in my post,sounded like i was waving the banner 
for all new realises every where for all and sundry/still available to 
purchase c.ds irrespective of who the bands are.......i wasnt,call me bias 
towards the family,because i am guilty of that ;-D

melinda  ps ground hog day  ;-D))))))))) tom hanks!!!!




>From: Leigh Newton <angrytomhanks at yahoo.com>

>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the 

>band!)"<gathering at misera.net>

>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 

><gathering at misera.net>

>Subject: Re: [kj] inside exremities and no way out(2006)

>Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 19:37:01 -0800 (PST)

>

>I think it's natural for people like us to be a little uneasy and maybe 

>feel a little polarized about the whole file-sharing thing. When I say 

>people like us, what I mean is people who grew up with music being a much 

>more organic experience than it is now (I'm just assuming we're all roughly 

>between the ages of 20-something and 40-something). Now that the internet 

>has completely taken over and is laying the groundwork for a completely 

>different musical experience, it's a little weird (for me, at least) to 

>fully make that mental adjustment. That said, I use the hell out of 

>Soulseek and I'm completely on board with the whole "try before buy" 

>approach, especially now that everyone and his grandmother is in a band, 

>95% of which are more or less worthless. I also think it's an amazing way 

>for underground bands to instantly promote themselves. The downside of all 

>that is an over-saturation of music and the fact that everything is there 

>for the taking which in turn gives people a sense of entitlement that can 

>be downright shocking. Everything is a double-edged sword, I guess.

>

>----- Original Message ----

>From: B. Oliver Sheppard <bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net>

>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>

>Sent: Monday, February 5, 2007 5:12:57 PM

>Subject: Re: [kj] inside exremities and no way out(2006)

>

>

>Hey now, in my own defense, I have often mentioned here that I bought,

>for ex., the double blue vinyl 12"x2 ltd. ed. LP of _Hosannas_,

>Nighttime on vinyl, have bought KJ t-shirt merch., etc. I think KJ

>deserve the money. But I'm not against peer-to-peer unauthorized file

>sharing on principle.

>

>In a recent recent interview w/ Ian MacKaye (Minor Threat/Fugazi) he was

>asked about file sharking systems like Soulseek. He claimed it was

>wonderful. He mentioned that when he was in his late teens and twenties

>in the 1980s, one of the biggest frustrations hardcore punk and other

>underground acts had was actually getting people to hear their music.

>Most stations wouldn't play it, MTV hated it, etc. -- even though now

>all these same folks act like they were always on the bandwagon all

>along. He said something like Soulseek back then would have been a

>godsend to bands like his and his friends in Negative Approach and the

>Dead Kennedys, because then they'd have a wider audience for their

>message and movement. He said the entire reason they played was so that

>-- dun dun dun -- folks could hear their music.

>

>I think that the downloading of music via stuff like Soulseek is not

>necessarily connected to lack of album sales in the same way the RIAA

>would like folks to think it is. A lot of bands' income is from merch:

>posters, live show ticket sales, paying at the door, t-shirts, stickers

>-- stuff that's hard if not impossible to download. MP3s are one one

>component of this oeuvre of output. Majors even seed or leak mp3s on

>audio blogs to create buzz for bands.

>

>-Oliver

>

>

>melinda grant wrote:

> > here/here.....well said fats i totally agree ;-)

> >

> > melinda ps people, buy the stuff,the boys need the

> > cash...pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

> >

> >

> >> From: fatpotanga <fatpotanga at gmail.com>

> >> Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the

> >> band!)"<gathering at misera.net>

> >> To: The Gathering <gathering at misera.net>

> >> Subject: Re: [kj] inside exremities and no way out(2006)

> >> Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 20:54:37 +0000

> >>

> >> Call me a big girl in a bra, but I must admit I feel uneasy about the

> >> sharing of current material.

> >> Older, 'hard to get hold of' or deleted stuff I don't mind but I think

> >> things like this & say Transmission are wrong.

> >> MD for example need every penny to survive & every pirated download 

>puts

> >> Colesy's efforts in jeopardy & he's produced a fantastic label with 

>some

> >> great artists.

> >> At the risk of sounding naff, we're part of the KJ extended family &

> >> as such

> >> you don't steal from your own so if you want it, buy it.

> >>

> >> Please don't think this a personal dig, it's just a general 

>observation.

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> On 5/2/07 19:24, "B. Oliver Sheppard" wrote:

> >>

> >> > More than that, could they put it up on Soulseek or YouSendit (and

> >> then

> >> > give us the URL) or something? :)

> >>

> >> --

> >>

> >>

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