[kj] Killing Joke- Buy or Die

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The big four - they're 4ked & that Cr at pple pr!ck is just as bad. He just
sees the tide is changing in Europe. Nobody wants that drm rubbish, but
they've shot themselves in the foot by making tracks non-interchangeable
between players, so, ha ha, proprietry technology has paved the way! Those
n0b record companies have really 4kd themselves into a corner...
  -----Original Message-----
  From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On
Behalf Of Neil Perry
  Sent: 07 February 2007 14:17
  To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
  Subject: Re: [kj] Killing Joke- Buy or Die


  Just saw this:

  http://technology.guardian.co.uk/news/story/0,,2007624,00.html

  'Apple boss calls for end to music download restrictions'

  I think the depressing thing is that the 'music business' - ie the
established
  major labels - was so petrified by the digital age, and is now swimming
  against the tide in a rather pathetic way. The campaign against
  cassettes was huge and went on all the time and as you say
  had no effect - and that was how I and my friends got to share new
  music (and then we would run to the record shop to buy them after
  we'd heard a taster).
  I think the major labels will become nothing but back catalogues in the
  next ten years - as technology improves and the world gets faster
  connections, a lot of young bands will realise they don't need a
  record label. And we as a generation are still fixated on owning
  the 'physical' product, cd or vinyl, but I also think that will change -
  future generations will collect music as mp3s only. The record industry
  as we know it is in its dying days - but it could have been different
  if it had had a different attitude towards the internet. DRM is a last
gasp
  attempt to hang onto something - but as usual it is short-sighted and
  could actually be driving potential customers away. Well done, major
labels!

  N

  Jerry Butson <jerry at fleamusic.com> wrote:
    This comes to the crux of what the (major) music companies are
struggling with at the moment (while the independents and the artists just
get on with it).

    The major companies have been using DRM (or Digital Rights Management)
to protect their content in the online World but there's evidence to suggest
that it's actually stifling potential sales whilst p2p and mp3 trading
continue unabated. There are differences of opinion as to the value of DRM
and whether to continue protecting music in this way.

    This is nothing new: ever since the cassette was launched the music biz
has been banging on about not copying music whilst not being able to do a
thing about it but their real beef nowadays is that the means of
distribution has been pulled out from under them upsetting their cosy little
cartel and they both failed to spot it and to get involved in the brave new
world of online distribution until it was (almost) too late.

    It can be argued that copying of music files denies the artist their
income but it's always gone on and has not killed the business yet. What I
think it comes down to is the consumers perception of value and fair play,
not to mention the fact that physical bootlegs (like CDs) get sold for
money...mp3s are shared freely.

    The music biz should bite the bullet and accept that it ain't gonna go
away and ultimately benefits them by fostering and propagating music saving
them millions in promotion costs

    Discuss


            -----Original Message-----
            From: Neil Perry [mailto: neilfperry at btinternet.com]
            Sent: 06 February 2007 16:47
            To: A list a
      bout all things Killing Joke (the band!)
      Subject: Re: [kj] Killing Joke- Buy or Die

      Same here, but to back up my earlier outburst,
      I've already bought every KJ release 3, sometimes 4 times - vinyl,
      replacement copies for fucked vinyl, CD, re-issued CD, etc - so
      there you go, I've already paid for someone's free download several
      times over... generally I wouldn't do it to new/upcoming bands
      but someone as long in the tooth as KJ? No problem. If they're
      not making a living doing this after all this time, they're in the
      wrong career.
      N


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