[kj] Clip of US punk documentary/riots

[Brian Whitehead]

>>Ahh, but was it "Real" punk?

Who knows/cares, probably not.

Do you know how and who started punk ?

Until next month,

Brian.

On 20/02/07, Phillipps Marc <Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk> wrote:

>

>  >If you followed those rules you would have missed some absolutely

> excellent music

>

> Ahh, but was it "Real" punk?

>

>

> *ducks*

>

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> *From:* Brian Whitehead [mailto:bawhitehead at gmail.com]

> *Sent:* 20 February 2007 11:06

> *To:* A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> *Subject:* Re: [kj] Clip of US punk documentary/riots

>

>  >>Listened to The Clash after the first album

> >>Listened to The Damned after the first two albums

> >>Listened to PiL after the first album

>

> If you followed those rules you would have missed some absolutely

> excellent music. Metal Box/Second Edition, Give em Enough Rope etc

>

> Brian.

>

> On 20/02/07, Neil Perry <neilfperry at btinternet.com> wrote:

> >

> > Hmm, our 'rules' were a little more harsh. From what I can remember:

> >

> > You got a whack around the ear in the playground from bigger boys

> > if you:

> > Listened to The Jam (bloody mods)

> > Listened to Sham 69 (bloody joke band)

> > Listened to The Clash after the first album (they'd sold out by

> > touring the US a lot)

> > Wore punk clothes/badges but still had neat/long hair

> > Listened to The Damned after the first two albums (no longer

> > 'proper' punks)

> > Listened to PiL after the first album (Johnny Rotten had turned into

> > a 'commie' - somebody actually said this to me once)

> >

> > There were other similar rules, but they changed so quickly that you

> > were better off listening to what you wanted to listen to and learning

> > to run away fast.

> >

> > N

> >

> > *"B. Oliver Sheppard" <bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net >* wrote:

> >

> > A friend and I once tried to compile a list of the "Top 10 unwritten

> > rules for punks." Here they are:

> >

> >

> > 1) One was that you are not allowed to wear your own band's shirt on

> > stage, unless you are The Ramones. I guess Motorhead gets a pass on

> > this. But I saw The Damned once playing wear t-shirts of their own band

> > it just looked dumb.

> >

> > 2 ) Another: You should not wear a shirt of the band whose show you're

> > attending. Many violators on the KJ XXV Gathering DVD. Hah. Except the

> > gnarly hesher dude (A LABEL) in the Sepultura shirt up front. I still

> > envy him for how close he got, though, even if his hair would have

> > bothered me while he was headbanging a bit much during "Wardance."

> >

> > 3) Punks do not use the word "mosh."

> >

> > 4) Punks do not use the word "hoodie."

> >

> > 5) If you and some friends are traveling together to see a punk band,

> > and you're wearing, say, a particular Discharge shirt, and you pick up

> > one of your your friends in your car and he happens to be wearing the

> > exact same shirt -- well, he has to go back inside and change his shirt

> > to something else.

> >

> > 6) Punks do not wear white belts. Now, I have personally liked bands

> > that wear white belts, but it's in spite of the white belt-age, not

> > because of it.

> >

> > 7) Punks do not wear "girl jeans" and try to have hair like Luke

> > Skywalker in 1977 on purpose, at the same time. Just no way. This means

> > you,

> >

> > 8) No drum machines if possible. (I violate this one a lot. I like

> > several bands that use'em but I prefer the real deal and I think Big

> > Paul was amazing.)

> >

> > 9) Punks do not have goatees, especially if braided. They do not try to

> > look like they are going to a Blackstone the Magician convention, or a

> > Dave Navarro homage.

> >

> > I like bands and have friends that defy some of these rules, but these

> > are some rough guidelines to go by. In the end, my friend and I couldn't

> >

> > come up with a full ten. I guess that one could be Alex in New York

> > City's "NO LABELSSSSS!"

> >

> >

> >

> > -Oliver

> >

> >

> > Neil Perry wrote:

> > > Lol - it's true. When I was at school I remember all the 'punks'

> > > were engaged in a constant fight about who was punk and who

> > > wasn't - who had the 'right' hair, who used to be a proper punk but

> > > now wasn't because they'd been caught listening to the 'wrong'

> > > band, why some bands had been punk but now weren't anymore

> > > because they'd broken some mysterious rule... ah, good times!

> > >

> > > N

> > >

> > >

> > > */Leigh Newton /* wrote:

> > >

> > > I've always loved the fact that so-called punk rock has more rules

> > > and regulations than any other kind of music.

> > >

> > > Leigh

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

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