[kj] OT Jet Boy jet Girl Pepsi Ad

[Jiri]

In addition to agreeing with Leigh (essentially, if artists can get 
money for their old work, more power to 'em: it's no easy task to put 
passion into your art *and* make a living)...but I also am of the view 
that, if I have to be exposed to commercials, I'd sure prefer they have 
soundtracks that I like rather than some crap studio jingle. If Killing 
Joke were the soundtrack to every commercial, I might stop Tivo-ing over 
commercials -- and most consumers would *still* have no idea who Killing 
Joke were.

-Jiri, brought to you by BankUSA

B. Oliver Sheppard wrote:

> Jerry,

>

> Apologies for missing one part of your question. You asked which songs 

> we were talking about. The ones I know of recently are

>

> 1) The Fall's "Blindness" (not an old song at all) for the Mitsubishi 

> Outlander Express: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_3eBFjCNIo

>

> That YouTube link is a link to the commercial. I didn't upload it, nor 

> did I title it "The mighty Fall sell out," which is what the uploader 

> chose to call the clip.

>

>

> 2) The Buzzcocks "Everybody's Happy Nowadays" used in a US TV sport for 

> AARP, a political lobbying group for senior citizens: 

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJk_kY2WY9E

>

>

> My original question was if the commercial using "Jet Boy Jet Girl" was 

> on YouTube (I'd like to see it), but no one was available to provide a 

> URL. Oh well, maybe it hasn't been uploaded. Biafra turned down Levi's 

> for an ad that was to use a DK song; Minor Threat/Fugazi/Dischord turned 

> down Nike shoes for a promotional campaign ripping off the cover of 

> Minor Threat's LP. (That story is here: 

> http://www.tinypineapple.com/chris/archives/minor_threat_vs_major_threat.html)

>

> These guys aren't powerless, and if they've signed creative control 

> away, well, that reflects on them. The Fall couple with an Outlander 

> Sports Utility Vehicle just blows my mind. Like I said, "Discharge's 

> "Never Again" for Windex would be a good theme too.

>

> -Oliver

>

>

>

>

> Jerry Butson wrote:

>   

>> Which songs are we talking about here?

>>  

>> jerry

>>

>>  

>> On 20/02/07, *B. Oliver Sheppard* <bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net 

>> <mailto:bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net>> wrote:

>>

>>

>>     Saying one thing and then doing another is sort of duplicitous (i.e.

>>     Mark E. Smith's interview in MRR decrying business corporations

>>     and how

>>     corrupt they are, then selling, of all things a song to sell SUVs

>>     -- not

>>     economy sized fuel efficient cars, mind you -- but bigger, ballsy road

>>     hog stuff Americans like to plow people off the freeway with.)

>>

>>     You said: "I see it as a great scam." Buzzcocks: "Hah, we really

>>     got one

>>     over on those old folks who are in the AARP political lobby now since

>>     getting our song on that commercial" -- bring in the cash! The

>>     Pistols

>>     played the same game as it suited them - when they got dropped from a

>>     label, they (or MacLaren at least) insisted it was all a swindle, they

>>     were scamming one corporation after the next, so - ha to the

>>     establishment. Then when they were without a label it went back to

>>     being

>>     anti-establishment, fuck the labels, etc., they're useless.

>>

>>     I like it when folks pick one or the other and sort of make it

>>     consistent. Having elastic or supple principles is the only way some

>>     folks can get by, I guess. And in any event I wonder how many beta

>>     blockers some of the geezers in the AARP commercial, celebrating their

>>     70th birthdays, etc., would have to take if I played the Buzzcocks

>>     "Tear

>>     Me Up" at them. "But that's the band your organization chose to

>>     get you

>>     give monthly to AARP!" I'd protest. "And band's called what?"Granny

>>     might reply. "THE BUZZCOCKS, madame, THE BUZZCOCKS!!"

>>

>>     In any event, I think it'd be a great scam for Discharge to sell

>>     "Never

>>     Again" to Windex. Dirty streaks on your mirrors? WOman pulls out

>>     bottle

>>     of Windex to spray clean it. Discharge kicks in, "Well, never, never,

>>     never again!" --with Windex, that is.

>>

>>     So -- no YouTube link for the "Jet Boy Jet Girl" ad? :(

>>

>>     -Oliver

>>

>>

>>

>>     Leigh Newton wrote:

>>     > I think both those bands would have been foolish to turn down

>>     the offers. Any band would be foolish, unless said band is rich

>>     and doesn't have anything to gain. But I don't see it as selling

>>     out or anything. I see it as a great scam. If I were a Mark E

>>     Smith type and was asked for permission to use one of my old punk

>>     rock tunes in exchange for a wad of cash, i'd say "thanks sucker."

>>     >

>>     > Leigh

>>     >

>>     > ----- Original Message ----

>>     > From: B. Oliver Sheppard <bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net

>>     <mailto:bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net>>

>>     > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <

>>     gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>>

>>     > Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 10:28:11 PM

>>     > Subject: Re: [kj] OT Jet Boy jet Girl Pepsi Ad

>>     >

>>     >

>>     > YouTube link for this ad?

>>     >

>>     > I found the YouTube links for The Fall's "Blindness" being used

>>     for the

>>     > Mitsubishi Outlander SUV ad, which threw me off for a few

>>     seconds, and

>>     > of course the Buzzcocks' "Everybody's Happy Nowadays," used in a

>>     > commrcial for fucking AARP, a political lobbying orgaization for the

>>     > elderly in America! Both those ads re on YouTube.

>>     >

>>     > Mark E. Smith was in a recent issue of Maximum Rock & roll being

>>     all

>>     > anti-music business, anti-corporate, etc., then next thing I

>>     know I see

>>     > him selling us sport utility vehicles on TV. Fucked up.

>>     >

>>     > And the Buzzcocks -- a band who used to not get airplay back in

>>     the day

>>     > becaus the name was deemed "pornographic" by some (though it

>>     isn't) --

>>     > now promoting an old folks' political lobbying association? I need

>>     > another bowl of Valium.

>>     >

>>     > -Oliver

>>

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