[kj] An Olive Branch for Olive-r

Alex Smith vassifer at earthlink.net
Wed Feb 28 12:17:08 EST 2007



Please........PLEASE......PLEASE let's not refer to Black Sabbath as "hair metal."

Honestly, that's all I ask.


I'm not saying that latter-era Sabbath isn't entirely lamentable, but they are not hair metal. They have hair and they play metal, but they are not hair metal.

Thanks!

Alex in NYC




-----Original Message-----

>From: "B. Oliver Sheppard" <bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net>

>Sent: Feb 28, 2007 11:31 AM

>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>

>Subject: Re: [kj] An Olive Branch for Olive-r

>

>Kurt Cobain said he wanted Nirvana to sound like The Beatles meets Black

>Sabbath. Are Black Sabbath hair metal? Well, debatable -- maybe later

>era Black Sabbath were hair metal, sure. I personally don't think

>Nirvana sounded like hair metal per se, but when Nirvana broke into

>popular consciousness, they sounded more like the next step up-and-away

>from the hair metal of Warrant, Anthrax (the metal band, not the punk

>one) that had dominated the Headbangers' Ball landscape of the 80s, not

>a return to, or new kind of, punk, as some many music writers insisted.

>It was esepcially surreal in the days of '92 - '93 to hear the same DJs

>that only a couple of years before had been playing New Kids on the

>Block or Bell Biv Devoe to suddenly be playing Nirvana and Firehose and

>talking abou punk like they'd been into it all along. Sorry! Some of us

>have memories.

>

>In any event, whether they sound like hair metal or not, I just have

>never liked Nirvana.

>

>Also: I WISH KILLING JOKE HAD WON THAT LAWSUIT! :) (I do like Grohl's

>drumming on 2003 s/t but that is probably the nicest thing I'll say

>about anyone in Nirvana.)

>

>-Oliver

>

>

>MARK SAXTON wrote:

>> I'd agree with that Alex - where is the "hair metal" element apparent?

>>

>>

>

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