[kj] [KJ] Killing Joke "Rawk"

Alexander Smith vassifer at earthlink.net
Thu Jan 11 12:40:25 EST 2007



Back in the days of vinyl, I used to organize by genre or by what I'd
perceive as a quasi-genre ("flavor of the month brit hype bands" ala
Jesus & Mary Chain, the Primitives, the Sugarcubes, etc.) This just
got too unwieldy after a while, and upon the advent of discs, I just
went with alphabetizing, which makes loads more sense (although it
means certain artists sit incongruously next to each other on the
shelves..... Paul Simon sits next to Siouxsie.... the Plasmatics sit
next to Robert Plant....Pussy Galore sit next to Queen, etc.)

Alex in NYC




On Jan 11, 2007, at 12:28 PM, Javier Garcia wrote:


> Dimitri wrote:

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> Or not!, and maybe you can do it the way you feel to. I just can't

> mix some soft/electronic stuff i have with metal... you know what i

> mean?. It's just my way to look for records easier. It's more

> practical to me.

> After all, labels and genres exist weather you like it or not. You

> can use them or not.

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> But you want me to believe that you never, ever use labels... yeah,

> right! I'm not a label/genre defender, but they are not useless.

> That's my only point.

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> And so, after your complaint with that store, under what label are

> KJ now? or they are re-organize all the store and now they went all

> alphabetical?? So maybe you now can find Killing Joke "easier":

> it's just next to Kenny G, Khawaja Zia ud din, King Pinz, Kid Rock,

> Krystal Blue and Kajagoogoo?? HA! Now i call that easy!!!

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> Javier

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> Subject : Re: [kj] [KJ] Killing Joke "Rawk"

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> Date : Thu, 11 Jan 2007 17:02:48 +0000

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> From : "Dimitri Bukharin" <krasnidenamit at googlemail.com>

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> To : "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"

> <gathering at misera.net>

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> You could allways put your collection in alphabetical order then

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> easy to find everything!

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> A HMV store near me put the Joke in their "rawk" section so I sent

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> of complaint and their back with all the regular shit now.

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> > Second that man, on the other hand labels are necessary to find a

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> > on a shop, to organize your CD's (maybe you make your own

> labeling), to look

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> > for new music in sites like "epitonic"... it's a practical thing;

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> > know, imho there are many useful things about labels. Still, i

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> > You're damn right! but he would have looked hot, don't you think

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> > *Subject : *Re: [kj] [KJ] Killing Joke "Rawk"

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> > *Date : *Wed, 10 Jan 2007 18:56:39 +0000

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> > *From : *"Dimitri Bukharin"

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> > Lemmy said in an interview once that Motorhead were a punk band

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> > On 1/10/07, Peter Moltesen wrote:

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> > > I really don't understand that – I was listening to the first

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> > > KJ stood out so much from the other bands that were around then

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> > > PS - Lemmy never wore spandex – does that mean he's not 'rawk' ???

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> > > *On Behalf Of *Dimitri Bukharin

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> > > *Sent:* 10 January 2007 15:41

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> > > I listened to the first 5 studio albums today and could not

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> > > "Rawk" in any of them. Am I missing something while listening

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> > > works? I dont remember Jaz in spandex or Geordie with a V-neck

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> > > although I remember Big Paul having a somewhat large drum kit.

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> > > bands from the 80's shared the Joke's sound? It seems to me

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> > > the Joke from a "rawk" background hear something I don't. I

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> > > fan who belived they inspired house music! He was a wrong and

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