[kj] [KJ] Killing Joke "Rawk"

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Yes, I have a load of old Streetsounds Electro albums that I still love, but
it's 4kin dated now &
others think it's a bit sh!t compared to now - I find this is simply because
it's a bit old now & things
have moved on dramatically, including the sounds that technology is capable
of. Still, Liam whatsit
from the Prodigy still loves his electro & he samples it to 4k. 80's House
tends to sound quite cold
& stark nowadays, though that's not a bad thing for me. I don't lke these
things 'cos they're cool,
'cos I don't think they are in any way cool !!!

Taken your blinkers off yet Dimitri? You underestimate us...
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  From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On
Behalf Of Alexander Smith
  Sent: 11 January 2007 20:34
  To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
  Subject: Re: [kj] [KJ] Killing Joke "Rawk"




  I'll shout WHEN I THINK SHOUTING IS APPLICABLE.


  To some, "old hip hop" is just as lamentable -- if not more so -- than
Sting and Supetramp.


  For what it's worth, I don't own any Sting albums -- that was just an
example. I do own everything by the Police though.




  Alex in NYC








  On Jan 11, 2007, at 3:31 PM, Dimitri Bukharin wrote:


    No Sting or Supertramp I'm afraid! I only bought two albums last year,
Killing Joke And Transmission. I don't claim to be cool, to old for that
shit but I don't own any records that I'm not proud to have bought.
     When I'm not listening to the Joke I'm more an electro house and old
hip-hop fan though my old punk records get a play now and again. Oh and NO
NEED TO SHOUT!


    On 1/11/07, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:


      And why should that be? Worried about people judging you because you
happen to own -- let alone like -- an album or two by Sting or Supertramp or
something?


      Look, EVERYone -- even the hippest of uber-hepcats -- owns a guilty
pleasure or two. Let's all stop being such ridiculous elitists, for cryin'
out loud.


      LET THE SKELETONS OUT OF THOSE CLOSETS!!


      Alex in NYC




      On Jan 11, 2007, at 3:02 PM, Dimitri Bukharin wrote:


        When have I said I only listen to one type of music? I choose to
keep my tastes in non Killing Joke related music to myself.


        On 1/11/07, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net > wrote:


          Quite sure, thanks.  As someone else said -- I believe it was
Javier -- what a boring life you must lead if you only listen to one type of
music.




          Alex in NYC




          On Jan 11, 2007, at 12:47 PM, Dimitri Bukharin wrote:


            Paul Simon, Queen........... Are you sure you like Killing Joke?


            On 1/11/07, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net > wrote:


              Back in the days of vinyl, I used to organize by genre or by
what I'd perceive as a quasi-genre ("flavor of the month brit hype bands"
ala Jesus & Mary Chain, the Primitives, the Sugarcubes, etc.) This just got
too unwieldy after a while, and upon the advent of discs, I just went with
alphabetizing, which makes loads more sense (although it means certain
artists sit incongruously next to each other on the shelves..... Paul Simon
sits next to Siouxsie.... the Plasmatics sit next to Robert Plant....Pussy
Galore sit next to Queen, etc.)


              Alex in NYC








              On Jan 11, 2007, at 12:28 PM, Javier Garcia wrote:


                Dimitri wrote:


                Or not!, and maybe you can do it the way you feel to. I just
can't mix some soft/electronic stuff i have with metal... you know what i
mean?. It's just my way to look for records easier. It's more practical to
me.
                After all, labels and genres exist weather you like it or
not. You can use them or not.

                But you want me to believe that you never, ever use
labels... yeah, right! I'm not a label/genre defender, but they are not
useless. That's my only point.

                And so, after your complaint with that store, under what
label are KJ now? or they are re-organize all the store and now they went
all alphabetical?? So maybe you now can find Killing Joke "easier": it's
just next to Kenny G, Khawaja Zia ud din, King Pinz, Kid Rock, Krystal Blue
and Kajagoogoo?? HA! Now i call that easy!!!

                Javier
                MxCty









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                  Subject : Re: [kj] [KJ] Killing Joke "Rawk"

                  Date : Thu, 11 Jan 2007 17:02:48 +0000

                  From : "Dimitri Bukharin" < krasnidenamit at googlemail.com>

                  To : "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <
gathering at misera.net>



                  You could allways put your collection in alphabetical
order then it's dead

                  easy to find everything!

                  A HMV store near me put the Joke in their "rawk" section
so I sent a letter

                  of complaint and their back with all the regular shit now.





                  On 1/11/07, Javier Garcia wrote:

                  >

                  > Second that man, on the other hand labels are necessary
to find a record

                  > on a shop, to organize your CD's (maybe you make your
own labeling), to look

                  > for new music in sites like "epitonic"... it's a
practical thing; i don't

                  > know, imho there are many useful things about labels.
Still, i understand

                  > when the members of a band don't want to be classified
by themselves, they

                  > don't want musical limits.

                  >

                  >

                  >

                  > You're damn right! but he would have looked hot, don't
you think Pete?!?!

                  >

                  > Javier

                  > MexCity

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                  > *Subject : *Re: [kj] [KJ] Killing Joke "Rawk"

                  >

                  > *Date : *Wed, 10 Jan 2007 18:56:39 +0000

                  >

                  > *From : *"Dimitri Bukharin"

                  >

                  > *To : *"A list about all things Killing Joke (the
band!)" <

                  > gathering at misera.net >

                  >

                  >

                  >

                  > Lemmy said in an interview once that Motorhead were a
punk band and you

                  > just

                  >

                  > labled Killing Joke as one too so your as guilty of
pigeonholing bands as

                  >

                  > anyone!

                  >

                  >

                  >

                  > On 1/10/07, Peter Moltesen wrote:

                  >

                  > >

                  >

                  > > why has everything got to be classified ????

                  >

                  > >

                  >

                  > > I really don't understand that – I was listening to
the first KJ album

                  >

                  > > today and I can hear all kinds of

                  >

                  > >

                  >

                  > > influences, from punk to funk to krautrock. Theres all
sorts of things

                  >

                  > > going on in there. Maybe that's why

                  >

                  > >

                  >

                  > > KJ stood out so much from the other bands that were
around then – I mean

                  >

                  >

                  > > back in 1979/80 how many

                  >

                  > >

                  >

                  > > other punk bands would have admitted being influenced
by Chic / disco

                  >

                  > > music ?

                  >

                  > >

                  >

                  > >

                  >

                  > >

                  >

                  > > Stop pidgeonholing everything. Its BORING

                  >

                  > >

                  >

                  > >

                  >

                  > >

                  >

                  > > PS - Lemmy never wore spandex – does that mean he's
not 'rawk' ???

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                  >

                  > > *From:* gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:

                  > gathering-bounces at misera.net]

                  >

                  > > *On Behalf Of *Dimitri Bukharin

                  >

                  > > *Sent:* 10 January 2007 15:41

                  >

                  > > *To:* A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

                  >

                  > > *Subject:* [kj] [KJ] Killing Joke "Rawk"

                  >

                  > >

                  >

                  > >

                  >

                  > >

                  >

                  > > I listened to the first 5 studio albums today and
could not find any

                  >

                  > > "Rawk" in any of them. Am I missing something while
listening to these

                  > fine

                  >

                  > > works? I dont remember Jaz in spandex or Geordie with
a V-neck guitar

                  >

                  > > although I remember Big Paul having a somewhat large
drum kit. What

                  > "rawk"

                  >

                  > > bands from the 80's shared the Joke's sound? It seems
to me fans who

                  > come to

                  >

                  > > the Joke from a "rawk" background hear something I
don't. I once knew an

                  > ELO

                  >

                  > > fan who belived they inspired house music! He was a
wrong and so are

                  > many of

                  >

                  > > you IMO.

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