[kj] [KJ] Killing Joke "Rawk"
ade
ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk
Thu Jan 11 19:28:56 EST 2007
Electro's 5 & 9 are classics!
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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of folk devil
Sent: 11 January 2007 23:30
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] [KJ] Killing Joke "Rawk"
Some of those early streetsound albums are class!!
>From: "ade" <ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk>
>Reply-To: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk,"A list about all things Killing Joke
>(the band!)"<gathering at misera.net>
>To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the
>band!)'"<gathering at misera.net>
>Subject: Re: [kj] [KJ] Killing Joke "Rawk"
>Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 23:23:07 -0000
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>Yes, I have a load of old Streetsounds Electro albums that I still love,
>but
>it's 4kin dated now &
>others think it's a bit sh!t compared to now - I find this is simply
>because
>it's a bit old now & things
>have moved on dramatically, including the sounds that technology is capable
>of. Still, Liam whatsit
>from the Prodigy still loves his electro & he samples it to 4k. 80's House
>tends to sound quite cold
>& stark nowadays, though that's not a bad thing for me. I don't lke these
>things 'cos they're cool,
>'cos I don't think they are in any way cool !!!
>
>Taken your blinkers off yet Dimitri? You underestimate us...
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> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
>[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On
>Behalf Of Alexander Smith
> Sent: 11 January 2007 20:34
> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
> Subject: Re: [kj] [KJ] Killing Joke "Rawk"
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> I'll shout WHEN I THINK SHOUTING IS APPLICABLE.
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> To some, "old hip hop" is just as lamentable -- if not more so -- than
>Sting and Supetramp.
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> For what it's worth, I don't own any Sting albums -- that was just an
>example. I do own everything by the Police though.
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> Alex in NYC
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> On Jan 11, 2007, at 3:31 PM, Dimitri Bukharin wrote:
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> No Sting or Supertramp I'm afraid! I only bought two albums last year,
>Killing Joke And Transmission. I don't claim to be cool, to old for that
>shit but I don't own any records that I'm not proud to have bought.
> When I'm not listening to the Joke I'm more an electro house and old
>hip-hop fan though my old punk records get a play now and again. Oh and NO
>NEED TO SHOUT!
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> On 1/11/07, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:
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> And why should that be? Worried about people judging you because you
>happen to own -- let alone like -- an album or two by Sting or Supertramp
>or
>something?
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> Look, EVERYone -- even the hippest of uber-hepcats -- owns a guilty
>pleasure or two. Let's all stop being such ridiculous elitists, for cryin'
>out loud.
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> LET THE SKELETONS OUT OF THOSE CLOSETS!!
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> Alex in NYC
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> On Jan 11, 2007, at 3:02 PM, Dimitri Bukharin wrote:
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> When have I said I only listen to one type of music? I choose to
>keep my tastes in non Killing Joke related music to myself.
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> On 1/11/07, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net > wrote:
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> Quite sure, thanks. As someone else said -- I believe it was
>Javier -- what a boring life you must lead if you only listen to one type
>of
>music.
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> Alex in NYC
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> On Jan 11, 2007, at 12:47 PM, Dimitri Bukharin wrote:
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> Paul Simon, Queen........... Are you sure you like Killing
>Joke?
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> On 1/11/07, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net > wrote:
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> Back in the days of vinyl, I used to organize by genre or by
>what I'd perceive as a quasi-genre ("flavor of the month brit hype bands"
>ala Jesus & Mary Chain, the Primitives, the Sugarcubes, etc.) This just got
>too unwieldy after a while, and upon the advent of discs, I just went with
>alphabetizing, which makes loads more sense (although it means certain
>artists sit incongruously next to each other on the shelves..... Paul Simon
>sits next to Siouxsie.... the Plasmatics sit next to Robert Plant....Pussy
>Galore sit next to Queen, etc.)
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> Alex in NYC
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> On Jan 11, 2007, at 12:28 PM, Javier Garcia wrote:
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> Dimitri wrote:
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> Or not!, and maybe you can do it the way you feel to. I
>just
>can't mix some soft/electronic stuff i have with metal... you know what i
>mean?. It's just my way to look for records easier. It's more practical to
>me.
> After all, labels and genres exist weather you like it or
>not. You can use them or not.
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> But you want me to believe that you never, ever use
>labels... yeah, right! I'm not a label/genre defender, but they are not
>useless. That's my only point.
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> And so, after your complaint with that store, under what
>label are KJ now? or they are re-organize all the store and now they went
>all alphabetical?? So maybe you now can find Killing Joke "easier": it's
>just next to Kenny G, Khawaja Zia ud din, King Pinz, Kid Rock, Krystal Blue
>and Kajagoogoo?? HA! Now i call that easy!!!
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> Javier
> MxCty
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> Subject : Re: [kj] [KJ] Killing Joke "Rawk"
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> Date : Thu, 11 Jan 2007 17:02:48 +0000
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> From : "Dimitri Bukharin" <
>krasnidenamit at googlemail.com>
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> To : "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
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>gathering at misera.net>
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> You could allways put your collection in alphabetical
>order then it's dead
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> easy to find everything!
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> A HMV store near me put the Joke in their "rawk" section
>so I sent a letter
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> of complaint and their back with all the regular shit
>now.
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> On 1/11/07, Javier Garcia wrote:
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> > Second that man, on the other hand labels are
>necessary
>to find a record
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> > on a shop, to organize your CD's (maybe you make your
>own labeling), to look
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> > for new music in sites like "epitonic"... it's a
>practical thing; i don't
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> > know, imho there are many useful things about labels.
>Still, i understand
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> > when the members of a band don't want to be classified
>by themselves, they
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> > don't want musical limits.
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> > You're damn right! but he would have looked hot, don't
>you think Pete?!?!
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> > Javier
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> > MexCity
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> > *Subject : *Re: [kj] [KJ] Killing Joke "Rawk"
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> > *Date : *Wed, 10 Jan 2007 18:56:39 +0000
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> > *From : *"Dimitri Bukharin"
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> > *To : *"A list about all things Killing Joke (the
>band!)" <
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> > gathering at misera.net >
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> > Lemmy said in an interview once that Motorhead were a
>punk band and you
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> > labled Killing Joke as one too so your as guilty of
>pigeonholing bands as
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> > anyone!
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> > On 1/10/07, Peter Moltesen wrote:
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> > > why has everything got to be classified ????
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> > > I really don't understand that I was listening to
>the first KJ album
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> > > today and I can hear all kinds of
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> > > influences, from punk to funk to krautrock. Theres
>all
>sorts of things
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> > > going on in there. Maybe that's why
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> > > KJ stood out so much from the other bands that were
>around then I mean
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> > > back in 1979/80 how many
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> > > other punk bands would have admitted being
>influenced
>by Chic / disco
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> > > music ?
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> > > Stop pidgeonholing everything. Its BORING
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> > > PS - Lemmy never wore spandex does that mean he's
>not 'rawk' ???
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> > > *On Behalf Of *Dimitri Bukharin
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> > > *Sent:* 10 January 2007 15:41
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> > > *To:* A list about all things Killing Joke (the
>band!)
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> > > *Subject:* [kj] [KJ] Killing Joke "Rawk"
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> > > I listened to the first 5 studio albums today and
>could not find any
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> > > "Rawk" in any of them. Am I missing something while
>listening to these
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> > fine
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> > > works? I dont remember Jaz in spandex or Geordie
>with
>a V-neck guitar
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> > > although I remember Big Paul having a somewhat large
>drum kit. What
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> > "rawk"
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> > > bands from the 80's shared the Joke's sound? It
>seems
>to me fans who
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> > come to
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> > > the Joke from a "rawk" background hear something I
>don't. I once knew an
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> > ELO
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> > > fan who belived they inspired house music! He was a
>wrong and so are
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> > many of
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> > > you IMO.
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