[kj] venting

[mike logvinoff]

no not really a suprise just fustrated...maybe a bit obsessed? 
just venting.




> From: gathering-request at misera.net> Subject: Gathering Digest, Vol 38, Issue 128> To: gathering at misera.net> Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 20:39:21 -0500> > Send Gathering mailing list submissions to> gathering at misera.net> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to> gathering-request at misera.net> > You can reach the person managing the list at> gathering-owner at misera.net> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific> than "Re: Contents of Gathering digest..."> > > The Gathering - Digest> > Today's Topics:> > 1. Re: Religion/universes (bongo)> 2. 2 minutes to midnight (nicholas fitzpatrick)> 3. Re: Religion (nicholas fitzpatrick)> 4. Re: Religion (nicholas fitzpatrick)> 5. Re: Religion/universes (GREG SLAWSON)> 6. (OT) What You'd Get If Count Dooku Fronted Iron Maiden (TB)> 7. Re: OT Religion/universes/moon (Neil Perry)> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > Message: 1> Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 12:35:01 +1300> From: bongo <humanhybrid666 at gmail.com>> Subject: Re: [kj] Religion/universes> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"> <gathering at misera.net>> Message-ID:> <ce16091e0701181535v59d03c69oac1b80907c3cd6f at mail.gmail.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"> > the same principle works here on earth as well...> the time it takes for the light to travel from the tv/monitor to your eyes,> could be seen the same way... albeit less time difference is involved...> > > On 1/19/07, melinda grant <hollytree1961 at hotmail.com> wrote:> >> > LOL BONGO ;-D I should of exsplained it properly,> >> > well the moon that we all view when we look up to the sky,is a moon from> > the> > distant past,because we are looking back in time when we look out into the> > sky at the moon-- stars,and apparently not forward.....so in actual> > fact,the> > moon isnt there in our time,but only in past past!!!!> >> > i read this from some astronomy mag....its also the reason that i have> > never> > believed that man/woman have never been to the moon....all thats a lie> > they> > tried to sell to us all---the whole thing was staged ;-0> >> > so i guess that all the other planets in our solar system are back in time> > also,plus some of the other universes----has as a guess,that some our> > forward in time obviously as well,but well,they are far away,down some> > worm> > hole and black hole on the left some where ;-D)))> >> > melinda> >> >> > >From: bongo <humanhybrid666 at gmail.com>> > >Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the> > >band!)"<gathering at misera.net>> > >To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"> > ><gathering at misera.net>> > >Subject: Re: [kj] Religion> > >Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 12:07:27 +1300> > >> > >of course its real...its made of cheese!> > >havent you ever seen wallace and grommet??> > >> > >> > >On 1/19/07, melinda grant <hollytree1961 at hotmail.com> wrote:> > >>> > >>back to cell/dna and quantum then ;-)> > >>> > >>melinda ps what about --the point that we are all also just> > holographic> > >>images,being projected in some way by what we al percieve in our minds> > >>eye,and that all we view every day from our surrounds is only a> > projection> > >>of whats in our minds? and that actually what we see of our world,is> > not> > >>what the true picture is !!!! ;-/ i hate to say this as i love the> > >>moon,but,i herd the other day that the moon isnt even real.............> > >>> > >>> > >> >From: "GREG SLAWSON" <gregslawson at msn.com>> > >> >Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the> > >> >band!)"<gathering at misera.net>> > >> >To: gathering at misera.net> > >> >Subject: Re: [kj] Religion> > >> >Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 17:20:23 -0500> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >As for the 3rd quote, I wouldn't call evolution (the reason we exist)> > >> >random. It is sort of a driving force carried on by chemical and> > >>biological> > >> >events, with some randomness in it.> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >From:"Lennonka" <svoje.ja at centrum.cz>> > >> >Reply-To:"A list about all things Killing Joke (the> > >> >band!)"<gathering at misera.net>> > >> >To:"A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"> > >> ><gathering at misera.net>> > >> >Subject:Re: [kj] Religion> > >> >Date:Thu, 18 Jan 2007 22:57:17 +0100> > >> > >I agree with the second quote.> > >> > >> > >> > >The third quote is very different from my point of view which is -> > >> >Accidents don't exist : )> > >> > >But that doesn't mean that "everything is fixed and you can't change> > >>it".> > >> > >Each second, we make decisions which influence all the future of all> > >>the> > >> >world.> > >> > >The misfortune is that only a few is able to notice that - oh dear!> > >> > >> > >> > >L> > >> > >______________________________________________________________> > >> > > > Od:> > >> >krasnidenamit at googlemail.com> > >> > > > Komu: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"> > >> ><gathering at misera.net>> > >> > > > Datum: 18.01.2007 21:43> > >> > > > P?t: [kj] Religion> > >> > > >> > >> > > >*"Your god is your chain, reject your god reject your system"*> > >> > > >**> > >> > > >*"Jesus died for his own sins, not mine"*> > >> > > >**> > >> > > >*God's are for week primitive minds, now fuck off back to your> > caves> > >> >and> > >> > > >practice your hocus pocus. The only reason we exist is because of> > >> >random> > >> > > >events and good fate, nothing more nothing less and when we die> > >>thats> > >> >it,> > >> > > >food for the worms. *> > >> > > >> > >> > > >_______________________________________________> > >> > > >Gathering mailing list> > >> > > >Gathering at misera.net> > >> > > >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >_______________________________________________> > >> > >Gathering mailing list> > >> > >Gathering at misera.net> > >> > >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering> > >> >> > >> > Valentine's Day -- Shop for gifts that spell L-O-V-E at MSN Shopping> > >> >> > >>> > >>> > >> >_______________________________________________> > >> >Gathering mailing list> > >> >Gathering at misera.net> > >> >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering> > >>> > >>_________________________________________________________________> > >>MSN Hotmail is evolving ? check out the new Windows Live Mail> > >>http://ideas.live.com> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>_______________________________________________> > >>Gathering mailing list> > >>Gathering at misera.net> > >>http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >--> > >> > >> > >"due to a lack of trained trumpeters, the end of the world has been> > >postponed indefinitely..."> >> >> > >_______________________________________________> > >Gathering mailing list> > >Gathering at misera.net> > >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering> >> > _________________________________________________________________> > MSN Hotmail is evolving ? check out the new Windows Live Mail> > http://ideas.live.com> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________> > Gathering mailing list> > Gathering at misera.net> > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering> >> >> >> > > -- > > > "due to a lack of trained trumpeters, the end of the world has been> postponed indefinitely..."> -------------- next part --------------> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...> URL: http://four.pairlist.net/pipermail/gathering/attachments/20070119/b4b0e06e/attachment.html > > ------------------------------> > Message: 2> Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 23:45:12 +0000> From: "nicholas fitzpatrick" <gasw30 at hotmail.com>> Subject: [kj] 2 minutes to midnight> To: gathering at misera.net> Message-ID: <BAY123-F117776410CE992C36EBA8ECEAA0 at phx.gbl>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"> > An HTML attachment was scrubbed...> URL: http://four.pairlist.net/pipermail/gathering/attachments/20070118/e15f2bfa/attachment-0001.html > > ------------------------------> > Message: 3> Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 23:48:55 +0000> From: "nicholas fitzpatrick" <gasw30 at hotmail.com>> Subject: Re: [kj] Religion> To: gathering at misera.net> Message-ID: <BAY123-F25CEB5FECD3121A1326A35CEAA0 at phx.gbl>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"> > An HTML attachment was scrubbed...> URL: http://four.pairlist.net/pipermail/gathering/attachments/20070118/bf1a78ef/attachment-0001.htm > > ------------------------------> > Message: 4> Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 23:53:47 +0000> From: "nicholas fitzpatrick" <gasw30 at hotmail.com>> Subject: Re: [kj] Religion> To: gathering at misera.net> Message-ID: <BAY123-F9242220DDD2B37968519BCEAA0 at phx.gbl>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"> > An HTML attachment was scrubbed...> URL: http://four.pairlist.net/pipermail/gathering/attachments/20070118/6acbfe06/attachment.html > > ------------------------------> > Message: 5> Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 20:18:06 -0500> From: "GREG SLAWSON" <gregslawson at msn.com>> Subject: Re: [kj] Religion/universes> To: gathering at misera.net> Message-ID: <BAY125-F46FC44F4EFA241C08528DA9A90 at phx.gbl>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"> > An HTML attachment was scrubbed...> URL: http://four.pairlist.net/pipermail/gathering/attachments/20070118/84d0ad39/attachment.htm > > ------------------------------> > Message: 6> Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 17:37:06 -0800> From: "TB" <Partyslammer at socal.rr.com>> Subject: [kj] (OT) What You'd Get If Count Dooku Fronted Iron Maiden> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)"> <gathering at misera.net>> Message-ID: <00f301c73b6a$54acc750$6401a8c0 at VALUEDB8142DE8>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";> reply-type=original> > Actor Christopher Lee fronting a prog-metal band:> > http://tinyurl.com/2s5t97> > Aside from the fact the guy's in his mid 80's and has to keep hitching his > pants up, he's got a pretty strong voice.> > T.B. > > > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 7> Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 01:39:14 +0000 (GMT)> From: Neil Perry <neilfperry at btinternet.com>> Subject: Re: [kj] OT Religion/universes/moon> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)"> <gathering at misera.net>> Message-ID: <403969.94726.qm at web86104.mail.ird.yahoo.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"> > Mel, not sure how serious you are here, but I'm bored, so:> > The moon is approximately 384,000 kilometers from the earth. The speed of light is 299,800km per second. So it takes light from the moon (that's light reflected from the sun) about 1.28 seconds to reach the earth. The moon is really very close! So the moon we are looking at is actually the 'same' moon, just a second old.> Light from the sun, coming from about 400 times further away than the moon, takes approximately 8 minutes and fifteen seconds to reach the earth. So yes we are looking back in time when we look at the sun - 8 minutes. But if you are looking at a distant star many light-years away, then the light you are seeing is actually hundreds, thousands or even millions of years old - it has taken that far to reach earth (and your eyes). > > If there was an equivalent earth-type planet, with a similar human species on it, at the same stage of technology/development as us, and it was many light years away, and we had a telescope that could see that far - then what we would actually see would be, for example, that planet's Roman empire, or ancient Egypt, as the light takes so long to reach us, even though they are actually in 2007 just like us.> > Told you I was bored.> Time for bed..> N> > > melinda grant <hollytree1961 at hotmail.com> wrote: LOL BONGO ;-D I should of exsplained it properly,> > well the moon that we all view when we look up to the sky,is a moon from the > distant past,because we are looking back in time when we look out into the > sky at the moon-- stars,and apparently not forward.....so in actual fact,the > moon isnt there in our time,but only in past past!!!!> > i read this from some astronomy mag....its also the reason that i have never > believed that man/woman have never been to the moon....all thats a lie they > tried to sell to us all---the whole thing was staged ;-0> > so i guess that all the other planets in our solar system are back in time > also,plus some of the other universes----has as a guess,that some our > forward in time obviously as well,but well,they are far away,down some worm > hole and black hole on the left some where ;-D)))> > melinda> > > > -------------- next part --------------> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...> URL: http://four.pairlist.net/pipermail/gathering/attachments/20070119/3ddece09/attachment.html > > ------------------------------> > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering> > > End of Gathering Digest, Vol 38, Issue 128> ******************************************

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