[kj] ot: good news!

Tim Bucknall tim.bucknall at googlemail.com
Tue Jun 19 08:45:37 EDT 2007


yup, one down, only a few of the dinosaurs left now :D

On 19/06/07, melinda grant <hollytree1961 at hotmail.com> wrote:

>

>

> OLIVER I LOVE YOU MATE ;-D,applause to you,great speach,i second and even

> third what you postED here below ;-D

>

> melinda--with respect to you ok!! ok,ok ok,thats pushing it ;-)

>

> >From: "B. Oliver Sheppard" <bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net>

> >Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the

> >band!)"<gathering at misera.net>

> >To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"

> ><gathering at misera.net>

> >Subject: Re: [kj] ot: good news!

> >Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 18:44:53 -0500

> >

> >I have no idea how free speech even enters into this. As far as I know,

> no

> >one said the guy should be banned or gagged. If he didn't give a shit

> about

> >what anyone thought about him, he shouldn't have a problem with me or

> >anyone else thinking he's a vile racist fuck. You said we're entitled to

> an

> >opinion -- that's mine. The free speech thing is an entirely separate

> >issue; have no idea where it came from here. If speech is free, I'm free

> to

> >rant and rave and harp about how the guy was backwards, reactionary

> bigot,

> >right?

> >

> >"Live and let live," "free speech," -- lots of nice liberal, hippy-ish

> >values are suddenly conjured up to defend a guy who earned his coin

> >denigrating immigrants, blacks, gays, etc. with all his usual

> >Archie-Bunker-meets-Jabba-the-Hut subtlety. Free speech means the guy can

> >be as hateful as he wants, but it also means we can trash talk him any

> time

> >we like, including right when he's on his death bed. When Reagan died I

> >wasn't cowed into suddenly getting all warm and fuzzy over him. Not gonna

> >happen here, either.

> >

> >-Oliver

> >

>

> >.....................................................................................................................

> >

> >

> >Mik Raven wrote:

> >>

> >>IMHO he was a very funny comedian who didn't give a shit about what

> anyone

> >>thought about him. He was entitled to his own opinion whether you agree

> >>with it or not and entitled to say it. If you take away that right just

> to

> >>be politically correct I'm not sure where we would be. Probably with us

> >>smokers outside without any fair debate. I would have thought that

> Jokers

> >>would not condemn so quickly. Hey, but I'm wrong again about jokers. Not

> >>willing to live and let live, so go on flame me, but it's not what I

> >>thought the joke was about. I liked the guy. I may not have agreed with

> >>his opinions but he had the right to have opinions that were different

> to

> >>mine. But finally, so say it's good news that anyone is dead is just

> sick!

> >>

> >>

> >

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