[kj] The Ruts Pal Fox Benifite gig

[Shaun]

Hi All

With the sad news on Paul, I didn't giv it thought to post the news here and
felt it best
for the official announcment to come out. Anyway I received an email from a
friend with regards to a benifit
gig in aid of Paul, which I will post below. If you can make it please do.
The Venue is The Crown and Treaty
Uxbridge Middlesex.

Shaun
Email copy
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"hi shaun
foxy is in a hospice right now
i heard from billie (belinda, know her???) he has limph gland problems that
are causing most of his pain
i doubt he'll be living back at the treaty but there is a benefit gig in his
aid on 7pm 7th of the 7th 2007 (july 7th) at the treaty and he even wants to
play the gig with either the ruts or his other band the dub cats
so he's quite optimistic
see if you can get down, its a tenner to get in, i'll be working there that
night behind the bar for free, everyone is working for free
take care
hughie   "
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   1. Re: Jah Wobble (uncle benny's magical bra & liquorice factory)
   2. Re: ot: good news! (uncle benny's magical bra & liquorice factory)
   3. Re: ot: good news! (B. Oliver Sheppard)
   4. Paul Fox (Brian Whitehead)
   5. Re: ot: good news! (ade)
   6. Re: OT: Motley Crue sue manager for US $20 mil for "poor
      career guidance" (Brendan)
   7. Re: the party's over (Brendan)
   8. Re: ot: good news! (bongo)
   9. Re: ot: good news! (Brendan)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 20:14:47 +0100
From: uncle benny's magical bra & liquorice factory
	<fatpotanga at gmail.com>
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On 19/6/07 19:58, "ade" wrote:


> & fair comment, what the 4k has he done since PiL?


I liked his Invaders of the Heart stuff.
I also thought he really clicked well with Geordie on the DM stuff.
Kind of a bubbling (dubbling?) seamless undercurrent & perfect melding with
Geordie?s style.
A bit Youth, but also quite different & mercifully not metal.
(I?m convinced that with non-metal bass & non metal drums Killing Joke would
really open up/return to a whole other musical dimension)
I for one am very much looking forward to a bit of Geordie/Wobble [insert
alcohol gag here]
I am really excited by the whole prospect of this album ? I?m just praying
that this something new & fresh & doesn?t end up down a familiarly trodden
path (murder Inc, DM etc) & that Chris Connelly is already booked up!
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 20:25:27 +0100
From: uncle benny's magical bra & liquorice factory
	<fatpotanga at gmail.com>
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Although I find a lot of his material distasteful, I think the guy was
genuinely harmless.
I used to work for Granada TV & knew people who had worked on his stuff who
said the same.
Also a surprising amount of black/asian people.

Anyway, bugger what he was/wasn?t.
I like jokes & silly things & this one made me laugh.  He told it on Wogan
(I think)

Guy comes home from work & bursts into the living room & says to his wife
?Woo-hoo! I?ve won the lottery! Get packing!?
?really?!?
?Yup. C?mon pack your bags?
?Brilliant! Shall I pack something warm or summery??
?I don?t care, just pack your bags & fuck off?


On 19/6/07 20:01, "ade" wrote:


> Yes, I think it's top-notch too, but in these times that means I MUST be a

> card carrying Nazi... if I get that thrown at me, I won't be suprised -

what I

> will be is very fkin ANGRY.

>

> If it makes you laugh, it must be funny.. TO YOU.

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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 15:19:34 -0500
From: "B. Oliver Sheppard" <bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [kj] ot: good news!
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
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"In these times" -- man, what has the world come to?

90% of the this thread is folks imagining they're victimized for liking
Manning, which is funnier than most stuff he said/did.


-Oliver

ade wrote:

> Yes, I think it's top-notch too, but in these times that means I MUST

> be a card carrying Nazi... if I get that thrown at me, I won't be

> suprised - what I will be is very fkin ANGRY.

>

> If it makes you laugh, it must be funny.. TO YOU.

>

>     -----Original Message-----

>     *From:* gathering-bounces at misera.net

>     [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]*On Behalf Of *Leigh Newton

>     *Sent:* 19 June 2007 03:24

>     *To:* A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>     *Subject:* Re: [kj] ot: good news!

>

>     Sorry, but that's hilarious.

>

>     Leigh

>

>     PS - just because I laugh at something, that doesn't mean I agree

>     with it

>

>     PPS - Lighten up, gravedancers!

>

>     ----- Original Message ----

>     From: Neil Perry <neilfperry at btinternet.com>

>     To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>     <gathering at misera.net>

>     Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 5:12:58 PM

>     Subject: Re: [kj] ot: good news!

>

>     And one of his jokes:

>

>     "We'll have no more Jewish stories tonight," he would rasp. "I've

>     just discovered that I lost my grandfather at Auschwitz." Pause.

>     "He fell out of the machine-gun tower."

>

>

>

>     */TheGatheringGerm at aol.com/* wrote:

>

>         In einer eMail vom 18.06.2007 20:05:29 Westeurop?ische

>         Normalzeit schreibt tim.bucknall at googlemail.com:

>

>             Bernard Manning is Dead!

>

>             wooo! yeah

>

>

>         Who was that? :) I really dont know.

>

>         Debby

>         _______________________________________________

>




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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 21:46:39 +0100
From: "Brian Whitehead" <bawhitehead at gmail.com>
Subject: [kj] Paul Fox
To: Gathering <gathering at misera.net>
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 Ther was McGeoch and Adamson, now another of my early guitar heroes is
diagnosed with terminal cancer...

www.humanpunk.com/

Brian.
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 21:57:18 +0100
From: "ade" <ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [kj] ot: good news!
To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)'"
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"like Manning" - what, 'cos I laugh at one or two of his jokes, I
like Manning? I laugh moreso at how he got the piss ripped out of him
with the Cake thing in Brasseye.

Look, over here, more & more stuff is getting taken away. Smokers are
getting full-on hate thrown at them on forums - smokers for fucksake!
It'll be alcohol banned next, people will be paying loads more tax
to compensate for the tax creamed off smokers (& drinkers maybe?)
Everyone will be happy with their new pure lifestyles. When smoking
has gone (eventually), will we be banning the pollution in the air
to combat any lung disease it may cause? I fucking doubt it!

I'm just sick of the section of lefties that has to jump on the racism
bandwagon if someone says black. PC has gone too far - someone has only
to be a bit contraversial to get accusations thrown at them. Pure
assumption that shows the accusers own prejudice.

See, I'm not really defending Manning, more my own right to choose
without being labelled. I love 'Derek & Clive' like nothing else,
but does that make my views of race questionable? Are Monty Python
EVIL for creating a character called "Mrs Niggerbaiter"? (LOL!!)
I bet the telly bosses would sit & think about that one before airing
it.

Times ARE changing & it's making interesting viewing...


Ape.

-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of B. Oliver Sheppard
Sent: 19 June 2007 21:20
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] ot: good news!


"In these times" -- man, what has the world come to?

90% of the this thread is folks imagining they're victimized for liking
Manning, which is funnier than most stuff he said/did.


-Oliver

ade wrote:

> Yes, I think it's top-notch too, but in these times that means I MUST

> be a card carrying Nazi... if I get that thrown at me, I won't be

> suprised - what I will be is very fkin ANGRY.

>

> If it makes you laugh, it must be funny.. TO YOU.

>

>     -----Original Message-----

>     *From:* gathering-bounces at misera.net

>     [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]*On Behalf Of *Leigh Newton

>     *Sent:* 19 June 2007 03:24

>     *To:* A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>     *Subject:* Re: [kj] ot: good news!

>

>     Sorry, but that's hilarious.

>

>     Leigh

>

>     PS - just because I laugh at something, that doesn't mean I agree

>     with it

>

>     PPS - Lighten up, gravedancers!

>

>     ----- Original Message ----

>     From: Neil Perry <neilfperry at btinternet.com>

>     To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>     <gathering at misera.net>

>     Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 5:12:58 PM

>     Subject: Re: [kj] ot: good news!

>

>     And one of his jokes:

>

>     "We'll have no more Jewish stories tonight," he would rasp. "I've

>     just discovered that I lost my grandfather at Auschwitz." Pause.

>     "He fell out of the machine-gun tower."

>

>

>

>     */TheGatheringGerm at aol.com/* wrote:

>

>         In einer eMail vom 18.06.2007 20:05:29 Westeurop?ische

>         Normalzeit schreibt tim.bucknall at googlemail.com:

>

>             Bernard Manning is Dead!

>

>             wooo! yeah

>

>

>         Who was that? :) I really dont know.

>

>         Debby

>         _______________________________________________

>


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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 10:07:00 +1200 (NZST)
From: "Brendan" <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Motley Crue sue manager for US $20 mil for "poor
	career guidance"
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)"
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Fuck what a pathetic bleat, as if he didn't have a choice to go on those
shows. I watched a couple of episodes, (in the way that you can't help
watching a car crash), and he was WILLINGLY sucking satan's dick.

Pretty amazing that it damaged his reputation, perhaps there's some hope
for the people who watch those shows...

And Motley Cr?e 'Heavy Metal'...whatever.



> [Wouldn't normally post this here but since KJ felt it appropriate to

> tour with them ...  - Oliver]

>

>

> Motley Crue sue manager for 20 mln dlrs

>

> Mon Jun 18, 9:50 PM ET

>

> Legendary heavy metal band Motley Crue filed a 20 million dollar lawsuit

> against of their managers in Los Angeles on Monday, accusing him of

> "greed" and poor career guidance.

>

> In the lawsuit lodged at Los Angeles County Superior Court the band --

> Nikki Sixx, Vince Neil, Mick Mars and Tommy Lee -- accused manager Carl

> Stubner of "extortionist tactics".

>

> The suit also alleged Stubner persuaded Lee, the ex-husband of

> "Baywatch" star Pamela Anderson, to sign on for a series of reality

> television projects that tarnished his and the band's image.

>

> The suit said the two reality television shows starring Lee -- "Tommy

> Lee Goes to College" and "Rock Star: Supernova" portrayed the drummer in

> an unflattering light.

>

> Lee's television commitments left him unable to tour with Motley Crue

> because of scheduling conflicts, causing the cancellation of several

> concerts and around eight million dollars in ticket and merchandise

> revenues.

>

> The conflicts were "real and concocted" by Stubner in order to "leverage

> his control over Lee to his financial advantage and to Motley Crue and

> Lee's detriment" the suit claimed.

>

> Motley Crue are one of the most successful US rock bands of all time,

> selling more than 40 million albums worldwide and 25 million records

> alone.

>

> http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070619/ennew_afp/entertainmentusmusicmotley

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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 11:06:11 +1200 (NZST)
From: "Brendan" <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
Subject: Re: [kj] the party's over
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)"
	<gathering at misera.net>
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Good point! Following that logic everyone having a surreptitious joint
understands they are doing something 'wrong'. Guy was trying to be too
clever and thought he would slip that one through obviously. Probably a
liar *cough* lawyer...


> Wow -- yeah that just reinforces many folks' opinion that the RIAA are

> strong-armed douches. I like it when "Paul" states: "If people need to

> affirmatively hide their activities [file sharing], then there is an

> understanding of wrongdoing." Uh, no, that would mean that, say, the

> French resistance in WW2 was "wrong." Maybe there are some other

> legitimate points he can make, but that isn't one of them.

>

> -Oliver

>

>

> Phillipps Marc wrote:

>> Speaking of which . . did you see that thread on the New Music

>> Strategies site?

>>

>> http://newmusicstrategies.com/2007/06/14/an-ifpi-bpi-board-member-writes/

>>

>> Doesn't paint Revolver, the BPI or RIAA in a good light . .

>>

>>

>>     -----Original Message-----

>>     *From:* Jerry Butson [mailto:jerry at fleamusic.com]

>>     *Sent:* 19 June 2007 16:55

>>     *To:* A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>>     *Subject:* Re: [kj] the party's over

>>

>>     Don't be silly Graeme, all recordings are copyright (except

>>     non-copyright ones). That doesn't stop you selling a CD on eBay

>>     does it?

>>

>>

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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 11:16:12 +1200
From: bongo <humanhybrid666 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [kj] ot: good news!
To: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk, 	"A list about all things Killing Joke
	(the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
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i always interpret PC as 'politically corrupt'


=)




On 6/20/07, ade <ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk> wrote:

>

>

> I'm just sick of the section of lefties that has to jump on the racism

> bandwagon if someone says black. PC has gone too far - someone has only

> to be a bit contraversial to get accusations thrown at them. Pure

> assumption that shows the accusers own prejudice.

>

> See, I'm not really defending Manning, more my own right to choose

> without being labelled. I love 'Derek & Clive' like nothing else,

> but does that make my views of race questionable? Are Monty Python

> EVIL for creating a character called "Mrs Niggerbaiter"? (LOL!!)

> I bet the telly bosses would sit & think about that one before airing

> it.

>

> Times ARE changing & it's making interesting viewing...

>

>

> Ape.

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net

> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of B. Oliver Sheppard

> Sent: 19 June 2007 21:20

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> Subject: Re: [kj] ot: good news!

>

>

> "In these times" -- man, what has the world come to?

>

> 90% of the this thread is folks imagining they're victimized for liking

> Manning, which is funnier than most stuff he said/did.

>

>

> -Oliver

>

> ade wrote:

> > Yes, I think it's top-notch too, but in these times that means I MUST

> > be a card carrying Nazi... if I get that thrown at me, I won't be

> > suprised - what I will be is very fkin ANGRY.

> >

> > If it makes you laugh, it must be funny.. TO YOU.

> >

> >     -----Original Message-----

> >     *From:* gathering-bounces at misera.net

> >     [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]*On Behalf Of *Leigh Newton

> >     *Sent:* 19 June 2007 03:24

> >     *To:* A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> >     *Subject:* Re: [kj] ot: good news!

> >

> >     Sorry, but that's hilarious.

> >

> >     Leigh

> >

> >     PS - just because I laugh at something, that doesn't mean I agree

> >     with it

> >

> >     PPS - Lighten up, gravedancers!

> >

> >     ----- Original Message ----

> >     From: Neil Perry <neilfperry at btinternet.com>

> >     To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> >     <gathering at misera.net>

> >     Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 5:12:58 PM

> >     Subject: Re: [kj] ot: good news!

> >

> >     And one of his jokes:

> >

> >     "We'll have no more Jewish stories tonight," he would rasp. "I've

> >     just discovered that I lost my grandfather at Auschwitz." Pause.

> >     "He fell out of the machine-gun tower."

> >

> >

> >

> >     */TheGatheringGerm at aol.com/* wrote:

> >

> >         In einer eMail vom 18.06.2007 20:05:29 Westeurop?ische

> >         Normalzeit schreibt tim.bucknall at googlemail.com:

> >

> >             Bernard Manning is Dead!

> >

> >             wooo! yeah

> >

> >

> >         Who was that? :) I really dont know.

> >

> >         Debby

> >         _______________________________________________

> >

>

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Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 11:21:45 +1200 (NZST)
From: "Brendan" <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
Subject: Re: [kj] ot: good news!
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)"
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I'm not venturing a comment on the Manning issue at all cos I KNOW
NOTHINK, but agreed re Derek & Clive being brilliant.

This is one of my favourites of theirs, the video kinda adds to the fun I
think.

Very risk-aye for the time (sorry can't find the bloody accent thingy):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOVX_hJ6lsw

Brendan



> "like Manning" - what, 'cos I laugh at one or two of his jokes, I

> like Manning? I laugh moreso at how he got the piss ripped out of him

> with the Cake thing in Brasseye.

>

> Look, over here, more & more stuff is getting taken away. Smokers are

> getting full-on hate thrown at them on forums - smokers for fucksake!

> It'll be alcohol banned next, people will be paying loads more tax

> to compensate for the tax creamed off smokers (& drinkers maybe?)

> Everyone will be happy with their new pure lifestyles. When smoking

> has gone (eventually), will we be banning the pollution in the air

> to combat any lung disease it may cause? I fucking doubt it!

>

> I'm just sick of the section of lefties that has to jump on the racism

> bandwagon if someone says black. PC has gone too far - someone has only

> to be a bit contraversial to get accusations thrown at them. Pure

> assumption that shows the accusers own prejudice.

>

> See, I'm not really defending Manning, more my own right to choose

> without being labelled. I love 'Derek & Clive' like nothing else,

> but does that make my views of race questionable? Are Monty Python

> EVIL for creating a character called "Mrs Niggerbaiter"? (LOL!!)

> I bet the telly bosses would sit & think about that one before airing

> it.

>

> Times ARE changing & it's making interesting viewing...

>

>

> Ape.

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net

> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of B. Oliver Sheppard

> Sent: 19 June 2007 21:20

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> Subject: Re: [kj] ot: good news!

>

>

> "In these times" -- man, what has the world come to?

>

> 90% of the this thread is folks imagining they're victimized for liking

> Manning, which is funnier than most stuff he said/did.

>

>

> -Oliver

>

> ade wrote:

>> Yes, I think it's top-notch too, but in these times that means I MUST

>> be a card carrying Nazi... if I get that thrown at me, I won't be

>> suprised - what I will be is very fkin ANGRY.

>>

>> If it makes you laugh, it must be funny.. TO YOU.

>>

>>     -----Original Message-----

>>     *From:* gathering-bounces at misera.net

>>     [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]*On Behalf Of *Leigh Newton

>>     *Sent:* 19 June 2007 03:24

>>     *To:* A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>>     *Subject:* Re: [kj] ot: good news!

>>

>>     Sorry, but that's hilarious.

>>

>>     Leigh

>>

>>     PS - just because I laugh at something, that doesn't mean I agree

>>     with it

>>

>>     PPS - Lighten up, gravedancers!

>>

>>     ----- Original Message ----

>>     From: Neil Perry <neilfperry at btinternet.com>

>>     To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>>     <gathering at misera.net>

>>     Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 5:12:58 PM

>>     Subject: Re: [kj] ot: good news!

>>

>>     And one of his jokes:

>>

>>     "We'll have no more Jewish stories tonight," he would rasp. "I've

>>     just discovered that I lost my grandfather at Auschwitz." Pause.

>>     "He fell out of the machine-gun tower."

>>

>>

>>

>>     */TheGatheringGerm at aol.com/* wrote:

>>

>>         In einer eMail vom 18.06.2007 20:05:29 Westeurop?ische

>>         Normalzeit schreibt tim.bucknall at googlemail.com:

>>

>>             Bernard Manning is Dead!

>>

>>             wooo! yeah

>>

>>

>>         Who was that? :) I really dont know.

>>

>>         Debby

>>         _______________________________________________

>>

>

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Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.9.0/853 - Release Date: 18/06/2007
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