[kj] OT: New Bad Brains LP (and TRBNGR)

[gingoblin at easynet.co.uk]

Yeah, Scandinavian Leather has some great songs on it... didn't think Party 
Animals had any... just a couple of decent ones alongside some serious 
turkeys. The new one is more of the same, though better!  Ha ha, I refuse 
to believe Deathpunk is dead!! One day they'll realise and stop chasing the 
buck!!   5 out of 10 from me.  Oh for the days of 13 out of 10!!

Dave in Edinburgh

"this means war mate"


At 08:03 28/06/2007 -0500, you wrote:

>It's ok.  Maybe it'll grow on me.  I liked Scandinavian Leather and 

>thought Party Animals was so-so.  There were a few songs on Party Animals 

>that I do like.  And this will probably be the same way.  Their raw, death 

>punk days are long gone.  It's been obvious they are going after the Alice 

>Cooper slant.  And with this last release some of it touches on later day 

>crap Cooper.

>BUT

>With all of that said I would still go see them in a heartbeat.  And I 

>will pick up the release once it makes it to these shores.  They are good 

>at putting together entertaining packaging (Party Animals shows that).

>

>I think the whole Bam Margera, "were smart and funny for liking this band" 

>MTV, mall punk crowd mentality is going to their heads.

>

>As of now I'll give it a 6.5 out of 10.  It may get up to 7 or 8 once I 

>have it in my hands and it grows on me (if it does).

>

>Chris

>

>wipe it till it bleeds

>

>>From: gingoblin at easynet.co.uk

>>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the 

>>band!)"<gathering at misera.net>

>>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>

>>Subject: Re: [kj] OT: New Bad Brains LP (and TRBNGR)

>>Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 13:49:13 +0100

>>

>>Had a few listens to the new Bad Brains... gets a "pretty good" rating so 

>>far... but that's an accomplishment in itself considering what they got 

>>to live up to . I kinda forget about everything after Quickness though!

>>

>>What's yer take on the new Turbo album Chris?   Very very average yet 

>>again for me... still too "nice" a production, but some good songs 

>>alongside some of the worst they've ever written!    They were still 

>>great in London a few weeks back though!

>>

>>Dave in Edinburgh

>>

>>

>>

>>

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>>At 07:28 28/06/2007 -0500, you wrote:

>>>I heard it about a month back.  It's good...not great.  I think I need 

>>>to re-listen.  They really haven't put out a horrible record.  The one 

>>>on Hollywood, or whatever the Madonna label was called, was the weakest.

>>>They have the same problem as the majority of the older, ground-breaking 

>>>bands.  They have a mighty past to live up to.

>>>I just hope they tour and keep it together to make it through all of the 

>>>cities this time.

>>>It sounds like HR is being more reasonable these days.  But if you've 

>>>seen their pics at the final days of CBGB's you might think otherwise. 

>>>They are so good live.

>>>

>>>Chris

>>>

>>>listening to the new Turbonegro

>>>

>>>

>>>>From: Leigh Newton <angrytomhanks at yahoo.com>

>>>>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the 

>>>>band!)"<gathering at misera.net>

>>>>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 

>>>><gathering at misera.net>

>>>>Subject: Re: [kj] OT: New Bad Brains LP

>>>>Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 19:02:40 -0700 (PDT)

>>>>

>>>>The vocals definately stick out like a sore thumb and it's obvious they 

>>>>tried everything in their power to make them work within the music. 

>>>>Still, it's a pretty cool mix of hard and soft. If it were some unknown 

>>>>band, I think I'd be pretty into it. The fact that it's Bad Brains is 

>>>>probably the biggest reason why the vocals don't sit well. We wanna 

>>>>hear the classic sound, especially since the other 3 members are 

>>>>dishing it out effortlessly. Oh well, you can't recreate the past.

>>>>

>>>>Leigh

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>----- Original Message ----

>>>>From: GREG SLAWSON <gregslawson at msn.com>

>>>>To: gathering at misera.net

>>>>Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 9:18:22 PM

>>>>Subject: Re: [kj] OT: New Bad Brains LP

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>I'm not even a Bad Brains fan (although I did see them in Boston a 

>>>>couple of times back in the day and was glad I went), and I like the 

>>>>new album!! Just bought it today--pretty impressive for both the thrash 

>>>>and roots reggae...

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>From:  "B. Oliver Sheppard" <bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net>

>>>>Reply-To:  "A list about all things Killing Joke (the 

>>>>band!)"<gathering at misera.net>

>>>>To:  "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 

>>>><gathering at misera.net>

>>>>Subject:  Re: [kj] OT: New Bad Brains LP

>>>>Date:  Wed, 27 Jun 2007 16:31:48 -0500

>>>> >B. Oliver Sheppard wrote:

>>>> >>http://mrmagoomc4.blogspot.com/2007/06/pure-love.html

>>>> >

>>>> >New Bad Brains album w/ original lineup leaked (free) at that URL

>>>> >above. Decibel Magazine review below. I agree w/ the Decibel mag

>>>> >review about HR's vocals tho' I think I liked it better than the

>>>> >writer does. It has a lot of old-style Bad Brains thrash riffs w/

>>>> >slow moshy NYHC parts here and there, but HR's vocals aren't as into

>>>> >it as in the 70s/80s Bad Brains stuff. He sounds like he'd rather be

>>>> >singing reggae, and the reverb/echo effects on his vocals get old.

>>>> >Anyway, if you like Bad Brains I think it's a pretty decent album.

>>>> >

>>>> >-Oliver

>>>> >

>>>> >

>>>> >http://www.decibelmagazine.com/reviews/jul2007/badbrains.aspx

>>>> >

>>>> >Bad Brains

>>>> >Build a Nation

>>>> >Megaforce

>>>> >How high

>>>> >

>>>> >In 2001, I saw ?Soul Brains? in Fort Collins, CO. (Madonna owned the

>>>> >Bad Brains? name at the time.) H.R. wandered onstage in pajama pants

>>>> >and a heavy parka, and spent most of the set singing into an

>>>> >arm?s-length Handycam instead of acknowledging the crowd. For an

>>>> >encore, he sat behind the drums and played a half-assed reggae beat

>>>> >for a few minutes. The end. That stuff could sorta be forgiven, but

>>>> >way worse was H.R.?s total lack of interest in any of the hardcore

>>>> >songs. Shit was more phoned-in than ?Sacred Love.? He was feeling

>>>> >the reggae jams, though! The loooooong reggae jams. Better than a

>>>> >mic stand to the skull (hello, Lawrence, KS!), but it was still a

>>>> >bummer. These guys are unquestionably one of the greatest couple of

>>>> >bands to come from hardcore, with one of the all-time best frontmen,

>>>> >and he was not into it at all.

>>>> >

>>>> >It?s with that show still in memory that I?m listening to Build a

>>>> >Nation, which purports to be a return to ROIR-era hardcore glory.

>>>> >And almost right away, the reason that this is a terrible idea is

>>>> >spelled out: The fast riff in ?Jah People? would sound amazing with

>>>> >H.R. spitting a classic hyperspeed vocal over it. He doesn?t?he

>>>> >croons over the mid-tempo verses. ?Universal Peace? has a vicious

>>>> >intro, a great fast verse and a totally half-assed vocal. You can

>>>> >practically hear the rest of the band (and Beastie Boy Adam Yauch in

>>>> >the producer?s chair) trying their hardest to make a hardcore album

>>>> >and H.R. completely not giving a fuck. Yauch gives them an overblown

>>>> >recording (in a good way!) with extra emphasis on Darryl Jenifer?s

>>>> >bass and lots of weird reverb effects on the vox. Being

>>>> >professionally obligated not to skip past the reggae songs this

>>>> >time, I can report that H.R. sounds a little bit like the Beasties?

>>>> >pal Q-Tip when he?s in mellow mode, and zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz?

>>>> >huh? There are some cool moments here and there, like the solo that

>>>> >opens ?Pure Love? and the sick NYHC mosh at the end of ?Send Me No

>>>> >Flowers.? But ?Flowers,? an update of a Black Dots-era song, really

>>>> >just serves as a reminder of how completely essential Black Dots is

>>>> >(if you don?t own it, you need to), and how inessential Build a

>>>> >Nation is. ?Anthony Bartkewicz

>>>> >

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