[kj] OT: New Bad Brains LP/film American Hardcore

Christof hamille wessidetempest at hotmail.com
Fri Jun 29 10:34:21 EDT 2007


AC/DC
Motorhead
The Ramones (when they were around)
and countless others have been doing it the same and are still incredible.
There is nothing wrong with sticking to what you know and like.
There is a difference between that and going through the motions. Which a
lot more people do just to stay in the limelight (or lack thereof).

Chris



>From: "GREG SLAWSON" <gregslawson at msn.com>

>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the

>band!)"<gathering at misera.net>

>To: gathering at misera.net

>Subject: Re: [kj] OT: New Bad Brains LP/film American Hardcore

>Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 00:18:36 -0400

>

>

>

>I disagree. There's nothing wrong w/sticking to something that you do well

>or that you like as long as people get off on it. Bands like the Buzzcocks

>have been playing the exact same stuff for 30 years, and it wasn't until

>the 90s that the world finally started to catch up to them. Some

>musicains--Dizzy Gillespie,, for example--start something groundbreaking

>and stick to it for decades. Others--George Jones, Ralph Stanley, who both

>are still on the road after over 50 years of touring--were always trad and

>stayed that way. Other artists--the Clash, Beatles, Miles Davis--change,

>sometimes for better or worse. For ex., the Clash blew me away at the

>start, but I love "Sandinista" the most, but pretty much hate their last

>album "Combat Rock". Miles started out trying to copy Dizzy (and he

>couldn't), invented several types of new music on his own (Cool jazz,

>electronic jazz, etc.)

>and slipped off into oblivion (try listening to his last album, "Doo Bop"

>or something--lame rap and top 40-influenced hip hop). Elvis "Mr. Ego"

>Costello put out lame new wave, and later even lamer county and jazz and

>who knows what else. Joe Jackson put out better new wave than Elvis, tried

>some other (jazzy, etc.) stuff, and a couple of years ago returned to his

>original new wave sound and put out a nice album. The 3rd member of the

>sound-alike trilogy, Graham Parker, never had the success of the other two,

>but continues to make solid albums that sound just as good as the ones he

>did 30 years ago (check out "Songs of No Consequence" for a recent

>masterpiece). Just because you try something new doesn't mean it's better.

>I'll pay to see 80 something year old Ralph Stanley sing any day (and last

>time I saw him 2 years ago he nearly blew the roof off the theater, and

>he's only about 5 feet tall)!!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>From: cliffmonka at alaska.net

>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the

>band!)"<gathering at misera.net>

>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"

><gathering at misera.net>

>Subject: Re: [kj] OT: New Bad Brains LP/film American Hardcore

>Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 19:42:19 -0800 (AKDT)

> >I have not heard their new cd,but basically why expect a band to redo

>what they've

> >already done years ago,bad brains killing joke or whome ever,it's a cop

>out to only

> >have one style and refuse to change.can u imagine,would be like fake as

> >hell,jukebox live.Freedom for the artists,let's just hope they continue

>to do what

> >they love,and love what they do.

> >

> >

> > > <html><div style='background-color:'><DIV

>class=RTE>

> > > <P>HR was wearing a pretty nice suit during the interview (as he sat

>on the grass

> > > with a wedding going on behind him--not very punk rock). As for the

>change from the

> > > spastic to mellow, being in your 50s is a lot different from being in

>your 20s or

> > > 30s...<BR><BR></P></DIV>

> > > <DIV></DIV>

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> > > <HR color=#a0c6e5 SIZE=1>

> > >

> > >

><DIV></DIV>From:&nbsp;&nbsp;<I>cliffmonka at alaska.net</I><BR>Reply-To:&nbsp;&nbsp;<I>"A

> > > list about all things Killing Joke (the

> >

> > band!)"&lt;gathering at misera.net&gt;</I><BR>To:&nbsp;&nbsp;<I>"A list

>about all

> > > things Killing Joke (the band!)"

> > > &lt;gathering at misera.net&gt;</I><BR>Subject:&nbsp;&nbsp;<I>Re: [kj]

>OT: New Bad

> > > Brains LP/film American Hardcore</I><BR>Date:&nbsp;&nbsp;<I>Thu, 28

>Jun 2007

> > > 17:18:05 -0800 (AKDT)</I><BR>&gt;Bad Brains &amp; Hr were well spoken

>in the film

> > > American Hardcore,well worth a watch<BR>&gt;or pick it up on amazon or

>ebay,i dig

> > > it,knew the writer of same title book,he<BR>&gt;lived in the same town

>and we use

> > > to hang out.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; In

>a message

> > >

>dated 6/28/2007 8:28:55 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,<BR>&gt; &gt;

> > > wessidetempest at hotmail.com writes:<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; I

>heard&nbsp;&nbsp;it

> > > about a month

> > > back.&nbsp;&nbsp;It's good...not great.&nbsp;&nbsp;I think I need

>to<BR>&gt; &gt;

> > > re-listen.&nbsp;&nbsp;They really haven't put out a horrible

> > > record.&nbsp;&nbsp;The&nbsp;&nbsp;one on<BR>&gt; &gt; Hollywood, or

>whatever the

> > > Madonna label was called, was the&nbsp;&nbsp;weakest.<BR>&gt; &gt;

>They have the

> > > same problem as the majority of the

>older,&nbsp;&nbsp;ground-breaking<BR>&gt; &gt;

> > > bands.&nbsp;&nbsp;They have a mighty past to live up to.<BR>&gt;

>&gt;

> > > I&nbsp;&nbsp;just hope they tour and keep it together to make it

>through all of

> > > the<BR>&gt; &gt; cities this time.<BR>&gt; &gt; It sounds like HR is

>being more

> > > reasonable these&nbsp;&nbsp;days.&nbsp;&nbsp;But if you've

>seen<BR>&gt; &gt; their

> > > pics at the final days of CBGB's you&nbsp;&nbsp;might think otherwise.

>They

> > > are<BR>&gt; &gt; so good&nbsp;&nbsp;live.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;

>Chris<BR>&gt;

> > > &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; I was at

> > > the last Bad Brains show at CBGB's- I don't know what is

>up&nbsp;&nbsp;with<BR>&gt;

> > > &gt; HR- It seems he kind of spun some persona for himself and forgot

>to

>turn

> > > it<BR>&gt; &gt; off- like an actor who never breaks character. My

>friend roadies

> > > for them&nbsp;&nbsp;and I<BR>&gt; &gt; keep meaning to ask them what

>is really up

> > > with HR- and yeah if HR had it&nbsp;&nbsp;his<BR>&gt; &gt; way he

>would just be

> > > singing reggae.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Adam Helfer<BR>&gt; &gt;

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