[kj] Genesis Fragment

[Steve Hackett]

I've got the new TG and I love it, haven't got the time to go into a review 
or analysis but if you like TG you will not be disappointed
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From: "Alex Smith" <vassifer at earthlink.net>
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
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Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 4:22 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] Genesis Fragment



>

> Fascinating stuff, Darth -- thanks for posting this.

>

> Who's gotten ahold of the new TG, anyway?? And how is it??

>

> Alex in NYC

>

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> -----Original Message-----

>>From: "Darth E. Vader" <crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk>

>>Sent: May 16, 2007 9:54 AM

>>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 

>><gathering at misera.net>

>>Subject: [kj] Genesis Fragment

>>

>>Flux: Talking of quantum physics, have you heard about

>>this Large Hadron Collider that is supposed to be

>>activated in November on the French / Swiss border? It

>>seems these scientists want to make black holes and

>>they don't really know what hell might break loose!

>>

>>GPO: That's right, in the CERN scientific centre. I

>>think that's crazy.

>>

>>Flux: It does seem like the most ridiculously reckless

>>thing the human race has yet tried to do.

>>

>>GPO: I agree. I just read a science fiction book in

>>which the whole Earth disappears because a scientist

>>creates a black hole. I don't know if it was because

>>of that Horizon program. It seems ludicrous. I don't

>>know how they could possibly be that arrogant that

>>they could think they could control something like

>>that. The very nature of it is uncontrollable. They've

>>said so themselves, so the arrogance of it is

>>frightening. The result could be that last arrogant

>>human attempt to quantify and control the physical

>>world when in fact what we should be doing is

>>integrating all aspects of life and perception, not

>>separating them out and trying to control them. We

>>should be reabsorbing some of the things we used to

>>have in terms of our relationship with nature and each

>>other and community. Science is obsessed with

>>separation and um...

>>

>>Flux: Reduction.

>>

>>GPO: Yes. And according to the Native Americans, they

>>don't have a word for death. They use the word

>>"separation" so that implies that science is killing

>>various aspects of what we think of as consensus

>>reality, just to prove their own potence. It's like

>>this urge towards being a god, you know? It's just so

>>ridiculous! Pointless. Aah, Lady Jaye just said,

>>"Science is rife with knowledge and the absence of

>>wisdom." It's fascinating. We're living in very

>>interesting times. A very volatile time!

>>

>>Flux: Things seem to be accelerating very much. Too

>>much is happening too fast for any one person to keep

>>up.

>>

>>GPO: Yes, I know. Instead of really dealing with our

>>behavioural issues and our personalities and our

>>destruction of the ecosystem and our innate greed,

>>we're just distracting ourselves with more and more

>>gadgets and things that go faster and faster and

>>faster in this denial of our own mortality. Everyone

>>wants to go the fastest in an aeroplane, or run the

>>fastest. Everything's got to be faster, faster, faster

>>- faster computers, faster phones. Its just a

>>completely empty, vacuous way of dealing with life.

>>Its bound to become a disaster. If its true that

>>things are accelerating quicker and quicker on our

>>body of knowledge and our technology is doubling

>>quicker and quicker then at some point within the next

>>ten years it'll double before it happens and that

>>could be a black hole, right?

>>

>>

>>Cracked Machine irregular cyberzine

>>http://www.webinfo.co.uk/crackedmachine

>>

>>Look at grafitti scrawled on the wall:

>>Dubya can't catch family friend Bin Liner...

>>But what the HELL?

>>They talk to God!

>>

>>

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