[kj] Strange events

[Leigh Newton]

Not exactly speaking from a scholarly point of view here (that's an understatement if there ever was one), but....

I think that moving forward or even backward through time, whether possible or completely impossible, is most likely far beyond the reach of stupid little human beings. I doubt our fragile little 90%-water bodies could withstand the force exerted by such flights of fancy. It would probably be the equivalent of being sucked through a black hole which, so I've read, would theoretically turn the average person into human spaghetti. 

In the grand scheme of things, we are finite little creatures living finite lives and we're stranded on our little, tiny, infintesimal, nothing of a chunk of rock and water. I doubt we're meant for much more. Hopefully, i'm wrong, cuz i've got some scores to settle with a few of my grade school teachers.

Leigh



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From: Flight Bringer <flightbringer at hotmail.co.uk>
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Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2007 12:52:47 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] Strange events


Thats is indeed a good theory......but the reality is that we cant even get the trains and buses to run on time , let alone getting them to arrive before they've even departed.
     But the theory below is akin to saying "It is possible for Man to drink a glass of water.......so that means that its also possible to Man to drink the Pacific ocean.........with all the fish included



Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 17:24:46 +0000
From: DavidSchofield at liberata.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] Strange events

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Nobody has proved that backwards time travel is possible (yet), but relative forwards time travel is possible. Time can be observed going at different rates depending on your relative velocity – the faster you go, the slower time goes relative to someone who is stationary (not that you are ever stationary – stood still you have a velocity of ~30km/s just from the planet orbiting the sun). I think on a transatlantic flight there is a half second or so difference, but the nearer you get to the speed of light the larger the difference.
 
This leads to the ability to travel forward in time. If you could travel fast enough, for long enough, then you could get a significant difference between your time and the time on earth. So, in theory if we threw you off into on a mission to the nearest star at 50% of the speed of light, it would take you ~40 years (of your time) but to us, it would take ~47 years. At 99.99% of the speed of light, it would take you 4 months, but to us it would be 24years.
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You can slow light down by passing it through a medium such as glass or water.
 
Time is theoretically linked to other forces also, sufficiently high gravity or magnetic fields could also be used to slow time relatively.
 
You can also get Tachyons, which are faster than light particles, but they are still theoretical. Perhaps CERN will find some.
 
My head now hurts.
 
Dave
 



From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Flight Bringer
Sent: 07 November 2007 16:52
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] Strange events
 
 
It just isnt possible to go either back or forward in time , you can dress it up as much as you like and give as many theories as you want , but there is no way that time can be reversed .
    It just isnt possible for that chicken that I ate today to be once again running around a farm like it was a few weeks ago . If I went and chopped a tree down last week and then sawed it up and burnt it to ashes, there is no way that those ashes could ever reinvent themselves as wood and then materialise itself as the same tree.......................................Impossible


> Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 15:05:31 +0000

> From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Subject: Re: [kj] Strange events

> 

> The experiments at CERN could conceivably cause some

> strange effects with time/space.

> 

> "The clock turned backwards"

> 

> 

> > OK, I know I am setting myself up here for ridicule

> and piss take.

> 

> > However, despite appearances, those that have had

> the misfortne to meet me,

> 

> > will probabbly testify that I am quite rational and

> sound of mind.

> 

> >

> 

> 




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