[kj] Johnny Depp/Dave Vanian

[Janean Lancaster]

I had a white streak once.  I'm going to sue.

 

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
On Behalf Of Flight Bringer
Sent: 13 November 2007 21:03
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] Johnny Depp/Dave Vanian

 

"Of course, on this list that became "BWAHAHA! YOU THINK DAVE VANIAN 

> SHOULD SUE JOHNNY DEPP BECAUSE HE HAS A STREAK IN HIS HAIR? OMG

LOLOLOL!!"
 
 
 
 
   That isnt the case at all is it B.S. , once again you are moving the
goal posts . One person made a jovial comment about the streak of hair
and you are implying that the whole list meant it seriously . You are
just trying to cover you ass by making false claims
    Also you did imply that Vanian  should sue Depp because he copied
his style and this style also included the hair streak , so what you
said above isn't too far from the truth , what you DID say was that
"DAVE VANIAN 
SHOULD SUE JOHNNY DEPP BECAUSE HE HAS A STREAK IN HIS HAIR.....and their
similar clothes"
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:46:43 -0600

> From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Subject: Re: [kj] Johnny Depp/Dave Vanian

> 

> I agree, overall.

> 

> This skit with King Buzzo trying to buy a house with the influence

he'd 

> had on multi-million dollar-making artists came at a time when Nirvana



> and L7 were both in the Top 20 and seemed to regularly wear Melvins 

> t-shirts on national TV, or name-drop the band in interviews.

Nirvana's 

> famous SNL show had them wearing a Melvins shirt, even, IIRC. It was 

> enough in those days for Nirvana to simply wear a band's shirt

(Flipper) 

> on TV to prompt that band to either reform or suddenly get press 

> attention/back catalogue reprints they'd never had before.

> 

> Also, I'd like to be clear the whole point I brought this up was: 1) 

> Damn, look how much Johnny Depp looks like Dave Vanian in this new

film; 

> 2) I looked into it further, and thought, 'Wow, this is really weird; 

> here's a side by side comparison.' Given Depp routinely borrows

others' 

> personae, it's hard to dismiss this as coincidence; 3) If that is so, 

> wouldn't it be nice if Vanian got credited or even some residuals,

given 

> that The Damned have influenced bands that went on to make a lot more 

> $$$ than them? And then I showed one hypothetical way it could be

done, 

> though I agreed Vanian was too modest to probably do any such thing 

> anyway. (They didn't seem to care about the "Life Goes On" and

"Eightes" 

> similarities, after all, unlike a certain other band, who cared about

a 

> song's similarity.)

> 

> Of course, on this list that became "BWAHAHA! YOU THINK DAVE VANIAN 

> SHOULD SUE JOHNNY DEPP BECAUSE HE HAS A STREAK IN HIS HAIR? OMG

LOLOLOL!!"

> 

> 

> -Oliver

> 

> 

> 

> 

> Alexander Smith wrote:

> > Come now -- The influence of the Melvins is in absolutely no way 

> > comparable to the influence of the Damned.

> >

> > Alex in NYC

> >

> > On Nov 13, 2007, at 2:39 PM, B. Oliver Sheppard wrote:

> >

> >> Another hugely influential band have been The Melvins. That

influence 

> >> hasn't translated into money.

> >>

> >> To wit: There was an old show on MTV where King Buzzo of The

Melvins 

> >> took around a suitcase full of newspaper clippings of bands like 

> >> Nirvana who name checked them as being really influential. He asked



> >> realtors to give him a tour of a mansion he was thinking of buying,



> >> stating he was a well-known music star. At the end of the house

tour, 

> >> Buzzo declared, "I'll buy it!" The realtor looked excited. Buzzo 

> >> opened his suitcase of newspaper/magazine clippings, and said,

"Here 

> >> -- I'd like to pay you with my musical influence on people!"

> >>

> >> The joke was, yeah, he apparently was influential to a lot of 

> >> good-selling bands, but had little money to show for it, so he was 

> >> going to see if he could cash in his cred for the house. The

realtor 

> >> was not amused. I thought it was hilarious.

> >>

> >> -Oliver

> >>

> >>

> >> Alexander Smith wrote:

> >>>

> >>> The Damned have already well earned their place in the annals of 

> >>> rock history, let alone the pantheon of Punk Rock greats (first 

> >>> British Punk band to issue an album). Their influence is massive, 

> >>> and they're constantly name-checked in otherwise foreign quarters

-- 

> >>> in the latest issue of MOJO, Jimmy Page admits to being blown away



> >>> by the Damned. Sting continually cites "New Rose" as an all-time 

> >>> fave and Nick Mason of the `Floyd even produced their second

album. 

> >>> If it's one thing the Damned haven't really been, it's ignored.

> >>>

> >>> I could be completely wrong, but I really doubt that Dave gives a 

> >>> fuck about his look being appropriated. And I can't think of a 

> >>> single working musician -- save possibly Sioux, and she's well

over 

> >>> it -- who'd want to take credit for the Goth aesthetic.

> >>>

> >>> Alex in NYC

> >>>

> >>>

> >>

> >

> >

> 

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