[kj] Celtic fan vs Dida attack
Leigh Newton
angrytomhanks at yahoo.com
Sat Oct 6 00:49:52 EDT 2007
They spend hours mopping teeth, hair and blood off the floor once the average "Battle of the Bands" type concert has ended.
Leigh
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From: Flight Bringer <flightbringer at hotmail.co.uk>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2007 2:31:30 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] Celtic fan vs Dida attack
Well the reason why music attending fans are prone to being more passive than sports attending fans , is that at gigs there is no opposition and there is nothing at stake, you are there purely to watch and listen , and you are all watching and listening to the same thing .
I'm sure that the atmosphere would be different at gigs if you went to see Killing joke playing against the Back Street Boys and killing joke lost to a last minute song by the Back Street Boys and that meant that Killing joke missed out on three valuable points and all the Back Street Boys fans were gloating and calling you names from the other side of the venue
From: vassifer at earthlink.net
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 14:08:22 -0400
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] Celtic fan vs Dida attack
Well, there are people who passively like sports, and then there are "sports fans" -- people who eat, breathe, shit, shower, shave sports all the time.
Likewise, there are people who passively enjoy music, and then there are "music fans" -- people who are preoccupied with the listening, accumulation and ephemera of music.
I'm not saying they're mutually exclusive.
I'm just saying that "sports fans" more often than not tend to be meatnecked, slackjawed idiots.
This is not to say that all music fans are exemplary human beings, but they're probably less likely to be a slackjawed aped inclined to punch you in the jaw.
Ale
On Oct 5, 2007, at 2:02 PM, Flight Bringer wrote:
So Alex, are you saying that the sport following crowd and the music following crowd are completely separate?
Yes, there may be a few people who are only into either sport or music, but i would say that the vast majority of gig goers also follow a sport .
From: vassifer at earthlink.net
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 13:54:11 -0400
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] Celtic fan vs Dida attack
I'd agree with you if you were right.
Alex in NYC
On Oct 5, 2007, at 1:54 PM, Flight Bringer wrote:
I'm not wrong Alex, I am right .
From: vassifer at earthlink.net
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 13:44:12 -0400
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] Celtic fan vs Dida attack
You're wrong.
Alex in NYC
On Oct 5, 2007, at 12:27 PM, Flight Bringer wrote:
"That all said, you're bound to meet
more dim, violent shitheads at a sports gathering than anywhere else."
Oh Alex, how could you so obtuse , its the same crowd that attend gigs and sporting events . There isnt a separate music crowd and a separate sports crowd, they are entwined .
Speaking of violence , if anyone is aware of an Arsenal supporter called Denton , he unfortunately died last night
> From: vassifer at earthlink.net
> Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 12:04:57 -0400
> To: gathering at misera.net
> Subject: Re: [kj] Celtic fan vs Dida attack
>
> Not sure how obesity figures into this. One can be fit, healthy,
> active and -- yes -- athletic without being a thick-skulled sports
> denizen.
>
> What my children end up taking an interest in is their own business.
> I cannot control where their interests will take them.
>
> And yes, there is idiocy in every realm of human culture -- be it
> music or sports or whathaveyou. That all said, you're bound to meet
> more dim, violent shitheads at a sports gathering than anywhere else.
>
> Alex in NYC
>
>
>
> On Oct 5, 2007, at 12:04 PM, iPat wrote:
>
> > we've discussed violence at gigs b4. Maybe you forget?
> > i recall the punks getting it at stonehenge, violence at gigs from
> > sham, ramones, siouxsie, clash, stranglers, sex gang children, meteors
> > etc
> > now would you rather your child did a sport which kept it healthy or
> > join the growing legion of obese children?
> >
> > On 10/5/07, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> Maybe I'm mistaken, but I don't recall anyone getting "nearly
> >> castrated" for
> >> wearing an Exploited t-shirt at a Ozric Tentacles show or anything
> >> like
> >> that.
> >>
> >> Alex in NYC
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