[kj] OT: Chrome recommendation
Christof hamille
wessidetempest at hotmail.com
Fri Oct 12 13:09:54 EDT 2007
You are correct. And that probably didn't come across right. There are "classic" Chrome records and for the uninitiated if they were to pick up a newer one it may throw them for a loop.
I thought/think Helios was a cool guy. A little out there but cool. Helios is definitely a major factor in the classic Chrome. And some of his 90s solo stuff (and appearances) are really good.
I started corresponding with both of them in the 90s as a result of Damon being on Dossier. Which, from what I could gather, was a strange time for Damon (as far as mentally stable).
Not trying to discredit or dismiss anyone
Chris
> Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 09:30:45 -0700
> From: blazingstar418 at yahoo.com
> To: gathering at misera.net
> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Chrome recommendation
>
> > Be careful of new Chrome. The main guy is dead
> > (Damon Edge 1995).
>
> I play on the last 3-4 new Chrome albums and I'd agree
> with the first part of this statement! ;)
>
> However, to be *really* fair, even thought Damon was
> the one that started the project and recorded "the
> Visitation" (prior to Helios' involvement) when Helios
> joined he not only took over as
> Guitarist/Bassist/Keyboardist/Primary Vocalist, but he
> also completely changed the sound of that group from
> bad prog into the
> experimental-industrial-futuristic-metallic-crunch
> that most of us die hard fans still love today.
>
> Almost every note played on the albums from Red
> Exposure up until Third From the Sun were played by
> *just* Damon and Helios.
>
> Helios' contribution to (if not *invention* of IMHO)
> the classic Chrome sound is also clearly evidenced by
> the drasticly different music that came about in his
> absence on both "The Visitation" (pre) and again on
> Damon's later period (post) Chrome albums on Dossier.
>
> Again, just trying to give Helios his fair shake.
>
> A L P
>
>
> --- Christof hamille <wessidetempest at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Be careful of new Chrome. The main guy is dead
> > (Damon Edge 1995).
> > Helios Creed was in it originally. Dropped out for
> > may years after having a fallout with Damon.
> > Resumed the name after he died.
> > To be fair to Helios they were collaborating again
> > (albeit briefly and infrequently) before his death.
> > And of Chrome's most popular releases Helios is on
> > it.
> > I've met both of them over the years. Damon was
> > nice, but a bit introverted while helios was a bit
> > more...eccentric. I read somewhere the he is a
> > train conductor now.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
> >
> > > Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 23:24:54 -0500
> > > From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net
> > > To: gathering at misera.net
> > > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Swans recommendation
> > >
> > > Well, I figured out the Neurosis/Swans link
> > finally.
> > >
> > > The official Swans website contains a t-shirt
> > design with this explanation:
> > >
> > > " $16 JARBOE T-SHIRT NEUROSIS & JARBOE [L] From
> > the well-known
> > > collaboration with Neurosis. Back features image
> > of bees wings. Size[L]"
> > >
> > > The well-known collaboration? I love(d) Neurosis.
> > Never knew they did
> > > something with member(s) of The Swans 'til I found
> > that site.
> > >
> > > Ah, yeah, now Chrome, ironically, I knew about
> > them. There are still
> > > gaps here and there I need to fill though. Which
> > will be impossible to
> > > do since there's a gazillion underground bands now
> > and the reach really
> > > is global.
> > >
> > > -Oliver
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Leigh Newton wrote:
> > > > In many ways, it sucks being a latercomer. It's
> > not all bad though. One good part is that everything
> > is right there for you to plunder. This list is a
> > good place for latecomers, namely myself. I'm a
> > latecomer to just about everything. It was thanks to
> > the Gathering that i got turned onto the genius that
> > is Chrome. The Damon Edge/Helios Creed era, to be
> > exact. Nothing else is quite like it. Thanks
> > Gathering!
> > > >
> > > > Leigh
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > > From: B. Oliver Sheppard
> > <bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net>
> > > > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the
> > band!) <gathering at misera.net>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 11:34:13 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Swans recommendation
> > > >
> > > > Wow, thanks for impressing upon me how genius
> > the Swans were, gang, I
> > > > recently got to explore their back catalogue
> > better. Just insane,
> > > > genius. I never appreciated it, as all I'd heard
> > was that dubbed copy of
> > > > the Body to Body, Job to Job cassette, which I
> > liked, but it didn't just
> > > > overwhelm me or anything. Now I'm totally amazed
> > by what I've been
> > > > hearing by the Swans.
> > > >
> > > > See, I can be a latecomer to some things. I
> > didn't really realize how
> > > > brilliant KJ were 'til almost two years ago,
> > though I'd like stuff by
> > > > them here and there before that. Then the light
> > switch on my brain went
> > > > on, and I was like, this is actually kinda
> > genius. I used to only like
> > > > fast, crossover thrashy or hardcore punk --
> > maybe I am getting older.
> > > > But, yeah, The Swans. Wow. The Great Annihilator
> > *is* good, like Javier
> > > > said.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks so much, guys.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -Oliver
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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