[kj] OT: Billy Bragg: Proud to meet the Queen, have symphonic works performed w/ his lyrics

[woody2shooz]

Have just been listening to various Pandemonium tracks being played on 
TV, courtesy of channel Dave and their Top Gear re-run.

You see, Killing Joke are hugely popular, plastered over the airwaves 
media darlings in the UK.

Christof hamille wrote:

> I hear old killing Joke (either Eighties or Love Like Blood) on 

> satellite radio quite a bit..  Nothing even remotely new.  And i would 

> bet pretty handsomely that there a few (satellite again) stations that 

> would give them the time of day and have them come in to promote the 

> new CD.

>

> Chris

>

>

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>     From: gregslawson at msn.com

>     To: gathering at misera.net

>     Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 18:21:38 -0400

>     Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Billy Bragg: Proud to meet the Queen, have

>     symphonic works performed w/ his lyrics

>

>

>     WHat royalty checkes? Hoe's Anus sold about 5 copies in the US,

>     and I have one of them. The last time KJ was played on ANY us

>     radio was some stuff from Pandemonium, and "Money is not Our God"

>     before that. You can't even hear (new OR old) KJ on college radio

>     any more. Unless they are huge stars in the UK (which I doubt) I

>     think any $ they've gotten in the past decade from the Joke is

>     just spare beer & cigar money.

>     > Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 10:00:49 +1300

>     > From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz

>     > To: gathering at misera.net

>     > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Billy Bragg: Proud to meet the Queen, have

>     symphonic works performed w/ his lyrics

>     >

>     > He seems extremely prolific, always up to something new, which

>     renders

>     > some of the moaning about the lack of progress on the KJ front a bit

>     > unfair IMO. He's probably quite happy with the royalty cheques

>     for KJ

>     > coming in regularly...Pandemonium on must have made a fortune,

>     all those

>     > new Nu Metallers buying up the latest album! (Okay Nu metal

>     probably post

>     > dates 1994 to be honest). 2003 with Grohl's name on it would

>     have helped a

>     > lot. I'm sure there are a bunch of people who have bought

>     everything since

>     > Pandemonium and on, and like me, gone into the back catalog as

>     well. I

>     > think they picked up a lot of momentum with that album...they

>     probably

>     > deserved it after the years of crap post BTATS (excepting

>     Extremities).

>     >

>     > And as much as he dismisses the importance of money I get the

>     impression

>     > he's actually pretty shrewd with it, I was surprised to find out

>     recently

>     > that not only did he work at or manage York St studios in NZ

>     back in the

>     > day, be seems to have been the one who set it up. Perhaps with a

>     mix of

>     > his own and others' funds, but I'm sure he did well out of

>     it...and good

>     > on him.

>     >

>     > Sometimes it's albums like that one we're talking about, where

>     you really

>     > aren't expecting to enjoy it, that your lack of preconceptions

>     really

>     > helps your eventual enjoyment, and changes your perspective. I

>     used to

>     > think punk was absolute shite, now I finally get it, thanks in

>     fact to

>     > Killing Joke and The Gathering. Still think a lot of it is

>     limited shite,

>     > sounds the same, but some of that stuff like Rudimentary Peni

>     etc I can

>     > get into. (Would have to say I probably prefer the 'post punk'

>     stuff more,

>     > on balance, but still have a lot to listen to...)

>     >

>     > What I would call my favourite song ever, if I had to choose

>     one, was

>     > sitting on an album (my favourite album) for about 10 years,

>     relatively

>     > undiscovered, because it comes just before another previous

>     favourite...I

>     > was always just hanging out to hear the next track and never

>     heard it

>     > properly, until my little brother said what a great track it

>     was....jarred

>     > me into re-analysing it, and it just grew and grew on me.

>     >

>     > Anyways, I'll give Symphonic Zep a listen and let you know what I

>     > think...but I'm a huge Zep fan so it won't be an unbiased

>     opinion. Zep are

>     > still in my top 5 bands. (Killing Joke, Soundgarden, Tool, Zep, and

>     > depending on how I feel on the day, probably Kyuss....)

>     >

>     >

>     > > Honestly, I haven't heard the symphonic Led Zeppelin stuff and

>     am not

>     > > eager to. That sounds like one of the worst ideas in history

>     to me.

>     > >

>     > > Seriously, though, since being EU Composer-in-Residence, what

>     has Jaz

>     > > done other than make cameos on other bands' stuff? Is that

>     what the job

>     > > entails? I'd actually like to know. But I don't wanna sit through

>     > > symphonies of classic rock. Ugh.

>     > >

>     > > -Oliver

>     > >

>     > >

>     > >

>     > >

>     > > Brendan wrote:

>     > >> what's goin' on with Jaz and that high falutn '

>     > >> "EU-Composer-in-Residence" stuff? Hmm? -Oliver]

>     > >>

>     > >> Expanding his musical interests wider and deeper, I think

>     it's brilliant

>     > >> myself. Haven't got any of that stuff, but am keen to get the

>     Symphonic

>     > >> Led Zep, Oceania etc...I've heard some of the symphonic

>     version of

>     > >> Kashmir

>     > >> on Youtube and it sounds great to me...I tend to agree with

>     him that all

>     > >> the previous symphonic rock albums are trash (although I do

>     think that

>     > >> those symphonic / operatic elements in Queen, ELO, Beatles

>     etc aren't

>     > >> too

>     > >> bad).

>     > >>

>     > >> I sat through a few songs of Metallica with an orchestra on

>     telly a

>     > >> while

>     > >> back and it was god awful (to me)...didn't enhance the music

>     at all,

>     > >> quite

>     > >> the opposite.

>     > >

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