[kj] (no subject)

[Darren A. Peace]

Never heard any Matt Stagger stuff (nor do I particularly want to, if I'm
honest), but there is, to me, a clear reggae/dub feel to the Nervous System
EP. Drums and bass particularly, but the scratchy guitar too. Youth has
always liked his dubby basslines - I remember a review of the first album
(in the NME?) that has remained with me, that said that he knew when not to
play. Since I played only bass at the time, that made me rethink how many
twiddly bits I kept pumping into our songs. Resulted in at least two numbers
when I didn't play anything at all, and was able to cop off with audience
members mid-set.

 

I think "quasi-metal" is not too far from how I see parts of the first
album, although it's punkier than the description would suggest. However,
I'm not sure I give a shit how it's described - it's what it sounds like
that matters. I once worked with someone who was very keen to either
appropriate or invent a genre for any music he listened to, and he was
infuriated by my saying that I liked any music "as long as it's good". Far
too unblinkered for him, although my attitude has since changed and there
are whole genres of music I now absolutely reject. Any female divas
squealing as though they're being eviscerated in a Saw film; ANY music now
described as R&B (my eldest daughter and I often argue about that one, but
I'm secure in my conviction that it's all irritating bollocks). ANY rap.
Never got rap; always seemed silly. Absolutely any record whose melody
depends on a massive sample from an older record. Gary Numan seems a
particularly rich vein for this, but there was that vile Police one, and
that one using the Psycho film score, and God help me that Robbie
"shoot-me-now vacuous waste of fucking oxygen" Williams "You Only Live
Twice" one. And I'm straying off topic, so I'll now shut up.

 

But not without first mentioning that Jaz gets several mentions in a podcast
I've just been listening to - the Andrew Collins and Richard Herring one,
episode 3, where Collins says that the chap playing "Fate" in those Godawful
dating website ads that thankfully seem to be dying out (the Cupid & Fate
ones) looks like Jaz, in that he's "swarthy", "dark" and "sweaty-looking".
I suppose I can see his point - 5th picture down on
http://commercial-archive.com/node/142283 . Just needs a stupid sombrero and
a 4" diameter cigar. I actually rate the podcasts, as they're blithely
offensive (I can see the value of a terrorist atrocity taking place on the
24th of July so that people will stop bloody saying 24/7 all the time).

 

Darren

Hungerford, UK

 

From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Bette Dillinger
Sent: 28 April 2008 00:07
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] (no subject)

 

Oh, Alex, you are so silly.  Reggae is the genre they are always classified
under (The Matt Stagger Band I am referring to).....
Don't get your panties in a bunch ;0  I didn't say Jaz was doing covers of
"One Love" with BPF.
 
To anyone interested in the Matt Stagger Band, it is easy to find on the
web.....the first hit had this intro:
 
"Heavy and slow,  <http://music.aol.com/artistredirect.adp?artist_id=4677>
Killing Joke (at least early in their career) was a quasi-metal band dancing
to a tune of doom and gloom. They eventually became less heavy and more arty
(the latter seems almost impossible) -- more danceable even -- but early on
they made some urgent slabs of molten dynamite that oozed with the power of
thick guitars, thudding drums, and over-the-top singing. The origins of
<http://music.aol.com/artistredirect.adp?artist_id=4677> Killing Joke lie in
the Matt Stagger Band."
 
NOW......was KJ a "quasi-metal band" when they started?  No.  
 
But people love to play with words.....

RASTAFARI!!!!!!!!!!!!
-Bette

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From: vassifer at earthlink.net
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 07:01:25 -0400
Subject: Re: [kj] (no subject)

 

The Matt Stagger Band -- I'm not sure I'd call them a proper "reggae" band,
from what I've heard about them.

 

Alex in NYC

 

 

On Apr 26, 2008, at 10:44 PM, sade1 wrote:

 ..I wonder how Jaz looked with dreads?...

 


> I mean, Coleman and BPF were members of a Reggae band before KJ.  You

can't make


> that stuff up!


 

=:~o

 

Wow, that's the first I hear of this. What reggae band was this?

 


Bette Dillinger <bettedillinger at live.com> wrote:

Just my two cents......
Everything is related, and every musician starts out as a fan.  I mean,
Coleman and BPF were members of a Reggae band before KJ.  You can't make
that stuff up!
 
So I guess that means nothing is "new and fresh".  However, today's current
environment encourages homogenization, which is a completely different
animal, IMHO.  But everything is
subject to.....
CHANGE!!!!!!!
-Bette




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From: sneakypete at uwclub.net
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 15:26:27 +0100
Subject: Re: [kj] (no subject)

Its always been like that though, hasn't it ?

 

I can think of very few bands that have come along who have truly

sounded like noithing else

 

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On
Behalf Of folk devil
Sent: 25 April 2008 16:27
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] (no subject)

Funny how, when a 'new' band is mentioned, they're related to one from the
past...

 


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