[kj] (no subject)

[sade1]

> Have two genres of music be so closely linked?

   
    Good q'estion. Hai! Taking it further, how about 
  not only "linked" but even "fused"?
   
   
    I once listened to 2 island ska compilations for about 3 days straight, 
  then went back to my Specials/Oingo Boingo/LosFabulososCadillacs cds 
  and, espesh w/theSpecials, I was then really able to hear the big difference 
  punk had on Ska. I mean, island ska is great and in a blissful way but to rouse 
  the Rabble.... i think da' brit-ska really kicks. (orwhateverit'scalled..)
   
  So..
  can it also be said that Postpunk + Trance = "Pandemonium"(k.j. cd) ?
  Motown/R&B + exprmntl.electronic = *K*R*A*F*T*W*E*R*K* ?
    Motown+protoTechno = House.... ?
Motown+New Wave = early Ministry... ?
  Motown +rock(or,punk?) = early The Jam and JoBoxers (live)?
  Motown+anything else = >good
   
  Yea or nay... aye or nye..? 
  

Brian Whitehead <bawhitehead at gmail.com> wrote:
    "Early UK punk (Ruts, Clash, SLF, etc) was really tied to reggae"
   
  I was listening to Barrington Levy the other day thinking what drew me into this sort of stuff in the first place.
  I think part of it was that at all the late 70s punk gigs, like those you mention, you could almost guarantee the music played before the bands came on was reggea.
   
  Mentally I'm probably half expecting The Clash to come on stage when the next song finishes.
   
  Have two genres of music be so closely linked?
   
  Brian.
  

 
  On 29/04/2008, GREG SLAWSON <gregslawson at msn.com> wrote:     Early UK punk (Ruts, Clash, SLF, etc) was really tied to reggae (Steele Pulse, UB  40 played w/ punk bands, yes?). There's also 
early 80s US harcore punk band Bad Brains, who were actually Rastafarians and did roots reggae on each album (they put out 
a reunion cd a few months ago and it's very good)...


    
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  Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 21:10:09 -0700
From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com   
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] (no subject)

  ..always something new to be learned here daily....
 
    Jeezus, I had NO idea old-school punkers n' similar types tended toward reggae. 
  I thought it was a combo of tastes only quirks like me and my siblings had, like when 
  I listen to Judas Priest and Konono No.1(heavy african) in the same 10 minute time 
  span. Of course no one else is in the car then.... 
   
  Bette Dillinger <bettedillinger at live.com> wrote:
  Hey now!    
My point was that it is just as silly to label The Matt Stagger Band "Reggae" as it was for the person who wrote the brief bio of KJ to label them "quasi-metal".  But the Matt Stagger band is always called that because it is easy.  An easy label in an instant gratification world.  
 
Obviously, both bands defy their label....because they are complex, like every band/person/cat/hamster is..........seems Alex got the point, and yeah, I am aware he is a fine journalist with a blog, where I read the BPF interview.  Also liked his story about the rest of the band that he posted here.  That kind of stuff would have happened to me.  Certainly wasn't comin' at him with daggers, quite the opposite....despite his lack of love for Patti ;0
 
And I dig Reggae old skool style.......Burning Spear at the Magic Stick will always be one of my favorite concerts ever!
 
-Bette   


    
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  Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 19:50:50 +0100
From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] (no subject)

  Maybe it isn't, Mel - just got a feeling it was. He could cover up his give-aways quite easily.
   
  Anyway, of course we've all heard that Jaz & BPF were in the Matt Stagger band. As for wheter there's any dubby reggae-ness going on in early Joke, well, they were well into the whole PiL thing, the company, etc & if Turn To Red isn't played dub-style, I don't know what is !!!
   
  What is wrong with reggae anyway??? Didn't punks love it back in the day? I fucking love 70's reggae!!!
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oh on not again ;( 
 
 ive never herd of this so called reagge band ;P) but alex does know his music he is well versed an exspect he has worked in the field bettie,just incase you did not realise ;)


    
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  Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 00:45:14 +0100
From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] (no subject)

  You sound like Pwest... hmmm...
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Oh, Alex, you are so silly.  Reggae is the genre they are always classified under (The Matt Stagger Band I am referring to).....
Don't get your panties in a bunch ;0  I didn't say Jaz was doing covers of "One Love" with BPF.
 
To anyone interested in the Matt Stagger Band, it is easy to find on the web.....the first hit had this intro:
 
"Heavy and slow, Killing Joke (at least early in their career) was a quasi-metal band dancing to a tune of doom and gloom. They eventually became less heavy and more arty (the latter seems almost impossible) -- more danceable even -- but early on they made some urgent slabs of molten dynamite that oozed with the power of thick guitars, thudding drums, and over-the-top singing. The origins of Killing Joke lie in the Matt Stagger Band."
 
NOW......was KJ a "quasi-metal band" when they started?  No.  
 
But people love to play with words.....

RASTAFARI!!!!!!!!!!!!
-Bette
    
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  From: vassifer at earthlink.net
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 07:01:25 -0400
Subject: Re: [kj] (no subject)

  
 
  The Matt Stagger Band -- I'm not sure I'd call them a proper "reggae" band, from what I've heard about them.
  
 
  Alex in NYC
  
 

  On Apr 26, 2008, at 10:44 PM, sade1 wrote:
       ..I wonder how Jaz looked with dreads?...
   
  > I mean, Coleman and BPF were members of a Reggae band before KJ.  You can't make
  > that stuff up!
   
  =:~o
   
  Wow, that's the first I hear of this. What reggae band was this?
   
  
Bette Dillinger <bettedillinger at live.com> wrote:
  Just my two cents......
Everything is related, and every musician starts out as a fan.  I mean, Coleman and BPF were members of a Reggae band before KJ.  You can't make that stuff up!
 
So I guess that means nothing is "new and fresh".  However, today's current environment encourages homogenization, which is a completely different animal, IMHO.  But everything is
subject to.....
CHANGE!!!!!!!
-Bette


    
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  From: sneakypete at uwclub.net
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 15:26:27 +0100
Subject: Re: [kj] (no subject)

    Its always been like that though, hasn't it ?
   
  I can think of very few bands that have come along who have truly
  sounded like noithing else
   
  Peter
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  Funny how, when a 'new' band is mentioned, they're related to one from the past...




  
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