From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Fri Aug 1 01:54:37 2008 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 17:54:37 +1200 (NZST) Subject: [kj] [OT] Magazine to reform? In-Reply-To: <4892058A.6010605@sbcglobal.net> References: <839245.95721.qm@web52608.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <3081.165.228.2.51.1217487613.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz> <002a01c8f327$d7e348d0$87a9da70$@com> <4892058A.6010605@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <1029.202.7.166.138.1217570077.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz> NO FUCKING WAY? Cheech and Chong? Chong has been ripping shit out of Cheech for ages for selling out to The Man (which he did), in a funny way...ooh ooh *goes to look it up* > Wow, that's amazing. I love Magazine, as well, but they were one of the > bands I'd never, ever have expected to reunite. I guess anything goes > these days? I mean, Cheech & Chong have also reunited now, apparently! > > -Oliver > > > Christof hamille wrote: >> from the wiki entry >> >> >> Reformation >> >> It was confirmed in July 2008 that Howard Devoto and Magazine are to >> reform for two dates in February 2009 (London Friday 13th & Manchester >> Saturday 14th) >> > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Fri Aug 1 02:01:16 2008 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 18:01:16 +1200 (NZST) Subject: [kj] [OT] Magazine to reform? In-Reply-To: <4892654B.4080302@sbcglobal.net> References: <704633.27772.qm@web27803.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <005201c8f371$7b7665b0$72633110$@com> <4892654B.4080302@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <58095.202.7.166.138.1217570476.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz> "You don't need a citation for this news" *Jedi hand pass* "I don't need a citation for this news..." > Actually, is there a harder source than Wikipedia for the Magazine > reunion info? Even the Wikipedia entry has a "citation needed" remark > about the reunion. And I concur - a citation is needed! I searched for > more info myself but couldn't find it -- just links to other online > forums where people are basically rumor-mongering about it, too. I > haven't seen anything "hard." > > -Oliver > > > Darren A. Peace wrote: >> >> Cheers Christof. >> >> >> >> I really should get into the habit of looking at Wikipedia once in a >> while, rather than assuming it???s the spoor of mischievous pranks. >> > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Fri Aug 1 02:11:42 2008 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 18:11:42 +1200 (NZST) Subject: [kj] [OT] Land of milk and honey In-Reply-To: References: <839245.95721.qm@web52608.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <3081.165.228.2.51.1217487613.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz> Message-ID: <34771.202.7.166.138.1217571102.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz> Read the linked site while listening to Dominator live on Youtube, how apprioriate. > > yes, cheers. > > http://www.truthout.org/article/it-was-oil-all-along > "talk about alternative fuels...not something that's going to be > completely exhausted in 10 years."> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 19:00:13 +1200> > From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re: [kj] > [OT] Land of milk and honey> > Cheers for the links...> > _________________________________________________________________ > With Windows Live for mobile, your contacts travel with you. > http://www.windowslive.com/mobile/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_mobile_072008_______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net Fri Aug 1 02:41:09 2008 From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net (B. Oliver Sheppard) Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 01:41:09 -0500 Subject: [kj] [OT] Magazine to reform? In-Reply-To: <1029.202.7.166.138.1217570077.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz> References: <839245.95721.qm@web52608.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <3081.165.228.2.51.1217487613.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz> <002a01c8f327$d7e348d0$87a9da70$@com> <4892058A.6010605@sbcglobal.net> <1029.202.7.166.138.1217570077.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz> Message-ID: <4892B005.1010203@sbcglobal.net> Yeah, they are: http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/sns-ap-people-cheech-and-chong,0,154479.story Now, I wish there was more than a Wikipedia entry -- something like a URL above -- telling us above the Magazine reunion. -Oliver Brendan wrote: > NO FUCKING WAY? Cheech and Chong? Chong has been ripping shit out of > Cheech for ages for selling out to The Man (which he did), in a funny > way...ooh ooh *goes to look it up* > > > > From gingoblin at easynet.co.uk Fri Aug 1 07:49:38 2008 From: gingoblin at easynet.co.uk (gingoblin at easynet.co.uk) Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 12:49:38 +0100 Subject: [kj] [OT] Magazine to reform? In-Reply-To: <4892654B.4080302@sbcglobal.net> References: <005201c8f371$7b7665b0$72633110$@com> <704633.27772.qm@web27803.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <005201c8f371$7b7665b0$72633110$@com> Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.2.20080801124723.02e566d0@pop3.easynet.co.uk> Heard about this a couple of weeks ago and was told it's a-happening. Tickets on sale Sept.15th is the latest info. Two dates in Manchester, one in London and supposedly that's it. But more to the point, who's playing guitar for Cheech & Chong? Dave in Edinburgh At 20:22 31/07/2008 -0500, you wrote: >Actually, is there a harder source than Wikipedia for the Magazine reunion >info? Even the Wikipedia entry has a "citation needed" remark about the >reunion. And I concur - a citation is needed! I searched for more info >myself but couldn't find it -- just links to other online forums where >people are basically rumor-mongering about it, too. I haven't seen >anything "hard." -Oliver Darren A. Peace wrote: > > Cheers >Christof. > > > > I really should get into the habit of looking at >Wikipedia once in a > while, rather than assuming it???s the spoor of >mischievous pranks. > _______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From dpeace at bigfoot.com Fri Aug 1 14:44:33 2008 From: dpeace at bigfoot.com (Darren A. Peace) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 19:44:33 +0100 Subject: [kj] [OT] Magazine to reform? In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.2.20080801124723.02e566d0@pop3.easynet.co.uk> References: <005201c8f371$7b7665b0$72633110$@com> <704633.27772.qm@web27803.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <005201c8f371$7b7665b0$72633110$@com> <5.1.1.6.2.20080801124723.02e566d0@pop3.easynet.co.uk> Message-ID: <000f01c8f406$a4a0ec90$ede2c5b0$@com> Brilliant. I'm there. Don't really mind if they use Robin Simon or Mandelson or anyone else, or even me!; the idea of seeing Devoto & Adamson & Doyle & Formula on stage together again has made my week. Actually, Mel? Know anything about Robin's possible involvement with this? BTW - if anyone is interested, saw the Wedding Present last week in a tiny pub in Swindon; they're on top form. Best gig I've seen in a while - catch them if you can. And the new Wire album is FANTASTIC! A generally excited Darren Hungerford, UK -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of gingoblin at easynet.co.uk Sent: 01 August 2008 12:50 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine to reform? Heard about this a couple of weeks ago and was told it's a-happening. Tickets on sale Sept.15th is the latest info. Two dates in Manchester, one in London and supposedly that's it. But more to the point, who's playing guitar for Cheech & Chong? Dave in Edinburgh From mikraven at o2.co.uk Fri Aug 1 16:17:16 2008 From: mikraven at o2.co.uk (Mik Raven) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 21:17:16 +0100 Subject: [kj] [OT] Magazine to reform? In-Reply-To: <000f01c8f406$a4a0ec90$ede2c5b0$@com> References: <005201c8f371$7b7665b0$72633110$@com> <704633.27772.qm@web27803.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <005201c8f371$7b7665b0$72633110$@com><5.1.1.6.2.20080801124723.02e566d0@pop3.easynet.co.uk> <000f01c8f406$a4a0ec90$ede2c5b0$@com> Message-ID: <000001c8f413$9e5bc730$cd01650a@ptgint.com> > And the new Wire album is FANTASTIC! Is that fantastic just compared to Chair's Missing or whatever it was called which didn't exactly set the world on fire, or me for that matter? Mik I am the fly Raven -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace Sent: 01 August 2008 19:45 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine to reform? Brilliant. I'm there. Don't really mind if they use Robin Simon or Mandelson or anyone else, or even me!; the idea of seeing Devoto & Adamson & Doyle & Formula on stage together again has made my week. Actually, Mel? Know anything about Robin's possible involvement with this? BTW - if anyone is interested, saw the Wedding Present last week in a tiny pub in Swindon; they're on top form. Best gig I've seen in a while - catch them if you can. And the new Wire album is FANTASTIC! A generally excited Darren Hungerford, UK -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of gingoblin at easynet.co.uk Sent: 01 August 2008 12:50 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine to reform? Heard about this a couple of weeks ago and was told it's a-happening. Tickets on sale Sept.15th is the latest info. Two dates in Manchester, one in London and supposedly that's it. But more to the point, who's playing guitar for Cheech & Chong? Dave in Edinburgh _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.5.10/1585 - Release Date: 8/1/2008 6:39 AM From saulomar1 at yahoo.com Fri Aug 1 17:17:34 2008 From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com (sade1) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 14:17:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [kj] Totally OT - uneven states Message-ID: <261682.68583.qm@web52605.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Uneven State Of The Nation Begs For A New Order ? Every now n' then an article comes along ya wanna keep for reference. ? ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current?state of things] 'Save me... ? save me?from Tomorrow.. ?? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...!'?? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dpeace at bigfoot.com Fri Aug 1 18:12:29 2008 From: dpeace at bigfoot.com (Darren A. Peace) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 23:12:29 +0100 Subject: [kj] [OT] Magazine to reform? In-Reply-To: <000001c8f413$9e5bc730$cd01650a@ptgint.com> References: <005201c8f371$7b7665b0$72633110$@com> <704633.27772.qm@web27803.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <005201c8f371$7b7665b0$72633110$@com><5.1.1.6.2.20080801124723.02e566d0@pop3.easynet.co.uk> <000f01c8f406$a4a0ec90$ede2c5b0$@com> <000001c8f413$9e5bc730$cd01650a@ptgint.com> Message-ID: <000601c8f423$b13173e0$13945ba0$@com> Hi Mik. That's fantastic as in a combination of the noise of SEND and the weirdness of THE IDEAL COPY. Doubt they'll release any more albums with 30+ 2 minute tracks on (prefer 154 to both Pink Flag & Chairs Missing, myself). Darren Hungerford, UK -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Mik Raven Sent: 01 August 2008 21:17 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine to reform? > And the new Wire album is FANTASTIC! Is that fantastic just compared to Chair's Missing or whatever it was called which didn't exactly set the world on fire, or me for that matter? Mik I am the fly Raven From Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.uk Sun Aug 3 11:39:18 2008 From: Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.uk (Janean Lancaster) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 16:39:18 +0100 Subject: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday Message-ID: <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE580B8A@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal> Have a good birthday tomorrow, Melinda. I will! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Preferably from when he starts to talk of politics, close to the end.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwloAqeL6wI cheers." _________________________________________________________________ Get Windows Live and get whatever you need, wherever you are. Start here. http://www.windowslive.com/default.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Home_082008 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com Mon Aug 4 14:49:52 2008 From: folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com (folk devil) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 11:49:52 -0700 Subject: [kj] [OT] Hurricane season Message-ID: For the past few years I have been interested in HAARP experiments, playing with the weather etc.. Just found this site, thought it may interest some. As well as Katrina, there were HAARP experiments at the same time as one of the shuttle disasters. http://montalk.net/conspiracy/142/haarp-earthquakes-and-hurricanes _________________________________________________________________ Got Game? 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(and happy birthday, too!) ~Alexandra. ? Bloody hell! Too many candles to even get close to! ? Happy birthday Janean and to my new fianc? Milinda. ? Mik ? ? ? From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of woody2shooz Sent: 04 August 2008 16:45 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday ? blimey, I only baked 1 cake so you'll have to share! Happy Bothday! Janean Lancaster wrote: Have a good birthday tomorrow, Melinda. ? ?I will! ? ?---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Text inserted by Panda IS 2008: ? This message has NOT been classified as spam. 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URL: From Rob at westwoodassociates.co.uk Tue Aug 5 05:18:28 2008 From: Rob at westwoodassociates.co.uk (Rob Horan) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 10:18:28 +0100 Subject: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday In-Reply-To: <006401c8f67b$73fba0e0$4001a8c0@ptgint.com> References: <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE580B8A@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal><489723F2.4060102@yahoo.co.uk> <006401c8f67b$73fba0e0$4001a8c0@ptgint.com> Message-ID: <659B6598190BF74586E8DD03BBB850838AF938@Server1.HeadOffice.Westwood.local> congrats on the engagement, must be a first for the gathering - going to be a huge wedding :) ________________________________ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Mik Raven Sent: 04 August 2008 22:46 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday * blimey, I only baked 1 cake so you'll have to share! Bloody hell! Too many candles to even get close to! Happy birthday Janean and to my new fianc? Milinda. Mik ________________________________ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of woody2shooz Sent: 04 August 2008 16:45 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday blimey, I only baked 1 cake so you'll have to share! Happy Bothday! Janean Lancaster wrote: Have a good birthday tomorrow, Melinda. I will! --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Text inserted by Panda IS 2008: This message has NOT been classified as spam. 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URL: From jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk Tue Aug 5 08:19:36 2008 From: jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk (jo) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 13:19:36 +0100 Subject: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday References: <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE580B8A@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal><489723F2.4060102@yahoo.co.uk> <006401c8f67b$73fba0e0$4001a8c0@ptgint.com> Message-ID: <022e01c8f6f8$bddabb10$0100000a@jo> Happy birthday Janean and to my new fianc? Milinda. Mik ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Congratulations to you both. Do we get invos to the wedding? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dpeace at bigfoot.com Tue Aug 5 09:21:40 2008 From: dpeace at bigfoot.com (Darren A. Peace) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 14:21:40 +0100 Subject: [kj] [OT] Magazine to reform? In-Reply-To: <000f01c8f406$a4a0ec90$ede2c5b0$@com> References: <005201c8f371$7b7665b0$72633110$@com> <704633.27772.qm@web27803.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <005201c8f371$7b7665b0$72633110$@com> <5.1.1.6.2.20080801124723.02e566d0@pop3.easynet.co.uk> <000f01c8f406$a4a0ec90$ede2c5b0$@com> Message-ID: <000401c8f6fe$33292640$997b72c0$@com> Apologies if his has already been posted - I'm having real problems with my mail forwarder at the mo. JIC, though: http://www.teletext.co.uk/planetsound/news/1db4688e1935a86bd08c2ffa34c0b72e/ Exclusive+Magazine+back.aspx Darren Hungerford, UK From crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk Tue Aug 5 11:56:58 2008 From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk (Change) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 15:56:58 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] Santa's Butthole Nightmare OT In-Reply-To: <20080804182914.HM.0000000000007hB@jagargal.bos-mail-wwl12.lycos.com> Message-ID: <771382.37939.qm@web23206.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Butthole Surfers to play All Tomorrow?s Parties in December First off, thanks to everyone who came out to the shows this summer. We had a great time and look forward to doing it again. To wit: Butthole Surfers will be playing The Nightmare Before Christmas, presented by All Tomorrow's Parties and curated by the Melvins and Mike Patton. This will be at the Butlins holiday resort in Minehead, England - December 5-7 The line up for this show will be the same as we had this summer: Gibby Haynes, Paul Leary, Jeff Pinkus, King Coffey and Teresa Taylor. This festival is amazing and we're honored to be a part of it: CURATED BY MELVINS KILL ME TOMORROW BUTTHOLE SURFERS MASTODON MELVINS ISIS NEIL HAMBURGER D?LEK BIG BUSINESS THE DIRTBOMBS THE BLACK HEART PROCESSION TORCHE J.G. THIRLWELL'S MANOREXIA CURATED BY MIKE PATTON FARMERS MARKET BOHREN UND DER CLUB OF GORE FANT?MAS PERFORMING THE DIRECTOR'S CUT THE LOCUST ZU SQUAREPUSHER __________________________________________________________ Not happy with your email address?. Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html From crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk Tue Aug 5 12:07:23 2008 From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk (Change) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 16:07:23 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] [OT] Magazine to reform? In-Reply-To: <1E7297C8C82D467EAD9CCAAECA1504E9@edweil> Message-ID: <811794.61214.qm@web23207.mail.ird.yahoo.com> > > I wonder what the line up will be??? > Lou Reed on gutter & Bez on the maracas maybe? Still at least they haven't suffered as many casualties as New York Dolls! __________________________________________________________ Not happy with your email address?. Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html From crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk Tue Aug 5 12:08:22 2008 From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk (Change) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 16:08:22 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] [OT] Magazine to reform? In-Reply-To: <1E7297C8C82D467EAD9CCAAECA1504E9@edweil> Message-ID: <592214.80246.qm@web23203.mail.ird.yahoo.com> > > I wonder what the line up will be??? > Lou Reed on gutter & Bez on the maracas maybe? Still at least they haven't suffered as many casualties as New York Dolls! __________________________________________________________ Not happy with your email address?. Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html From crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk Tue Aug 5 12:27:31 2008 From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk (Change) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 16:27:31 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] Japanese Army & Wellington's Butthole In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <521835.67379.qm@web23202.mail.ird.yahoo.com> I think I ended up looking more like a Gaye Byker on Acid, Speed, red wine, vodka, cider & lager!!! Anyway I went to see Mudhoney kick ass in London and then the Standon Calling festival which was excellent especially on Saturday when Yaneka, Melt Banana, Acid Mothers Temple & Pre played. --- On Wed, 30/7/08, folk devil wrote: > From: folk devil > Subject: Re: [kj] Japanese Army & Wellington's Butthole > To: gathering at misera.net > Date: Wednesday, 30 July, 2008, 5:31 PM > are you going to be Mishima? > > Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:08:50 +0000> From: > crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk> To: gathering at misera.net> > Subject: Re: [kj] Japanese Army & Wellington's > Butthole> > It is really quite simple...> I need a > costume this weekend that is of some kinda Japanese style, > nothing to worry about!> > > _________________________________________________________________ > With Windows Live for mobile, your contacts travel with > you. > http://www.windowslive.com/mobile/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_mobile_072008_______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering __________________________________________________________ Not happy with your email address?. Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html From Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk Tue Aug 5 05:18:42 2008 From: Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk (Phillipps Marc) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 10:18:42 +0100 Subject: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday Message-ID: >I didn't even mention my birthday (I was 33 on the 22nd), I carefully avoided mentioning my 40th on the 3rd of July :) -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Jim Harper Sent: 05 August 2008 00:33 To: Gathering Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday Congratulations to you both, guys. All the best! I didn't even mention my birthday (I was 33 on the 22nd), dammit- missed out on all the good will there! Jim. NOW AVAILABLE: Flowers From Hell: The Modern Japanese Horror Film, by Jim Harper (Noir Publishing). "Fascinating overview of the Japanese horror boom... 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Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 2:18 AM Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday >I didn't even mention my birthday (I was 33 on the 22nd), I carefully avoided mentioning my 40th on the 3rd of July :) -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Jim Harper Sent: 05 August 2008 00:33 To: Gathering Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday Congratulations to you both, guys. All the best! I didn't even mention my birthday (I was 33 on the 22nd), dammit- missed out on all the good will there! Jim. NOW AVAILABLE: Flowers From Hell: The Modern Japanese Horror Film, by Jim Harper (Noir Publishing). "Fascinating overview of the Japanese horror boom... Comprehensive, in-depth and slickly presented."- DVD Monthly. Available from Noir Publishing, Amazon.co.uk, Waterstones and all good bookstores. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Not happy with your email address? 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Too many candles to even get close to! Happy birthday Janean and to my new fianc? Milinda. Mik _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of woody2shooz Sent: 04 August 2008 16:45 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday blimey, I only baked 1 cake so you'll have to share! Happy Bothday! Janean Lancaster wrote: Have a good birthday tomorrow, Melinda. I will! --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Text inserted by Panda IS 2008: This message has NOT been classified as spam. 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I will! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From saulomar1 at yahoo.com Tue Aug 5 17:04:59 2008 From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com (sade1) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 14:04:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [kj] Shades In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <686583.15224.qm@web52608.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Yeah, really. Looks sort of like 90s-era Boy London glasses gone Rivethead. ? ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current?state of things] 'Save me... ? save me?from Tomorrow.. ?? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...!'?? --- On Tue, 8/5/08, folk devil wrote: From: folk devil Subject: Re: [kj] Shades To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" Date: Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 1:56 PM #yiv1347446203 .hmmessage P { margin:0px;padding:0px;} #yiv1347446203 { FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma;} rivethead! :P ? From: jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk To: gathering at misera.net Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 21:53:36 +0100 Subject: [kj] Shades This seller's got some good shades....? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250277374387&ssPageName=MERC_BC_RCRX_Pr4_PcY_BID_W0_IT&refitem=250276636017&itemcount=4&refwidgetloc=bid_confirm&usedrule1=CrossSell_LogicX&refwidgettype=cross_promot_widget&_trksid=p167.m184&_trkparms=algo%3DCRX%26its%3DS%252BI%26itu%3DUCI%252BSI%26otn%3D4 Got Game? Win Prizes in the Windows Live Hotmail Mobile Summer Games Trivia Contest Find out how. _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karen.weil at sddt.com Tue Aug 5 17:12:35 2008 From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 14:12:35 -0700 Subject: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday References: Message-ID: <52F38B9207524B4BB2E6734C396CC460@edweil> Ha! Love it. k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: folk devil To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 1:43 PM Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday M&Ms ;) Who is the nutty one? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 09:18:29 +0100 From: Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday >my new fianc? Milinda. Congratulations :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Reveal your inner athlete and share it with friends on Windows Live. Share now! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk Tue Aug 5 17:14:29 2008 From: jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk (jo) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 22:14:29 +0100 Subject: [kj] Shades References: <686583.15224.qm@web52608.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <039f01c8f740$3fb7b1f0$0100000a@jo> I've fantasised about having my glasses drilled into my head. Yeah, really. Looks sort of like 90s-era Boy London glasses gone Rivethead. ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...!' --- On Tue, 8/5/08, folk devil wrote: From: folk devil Subject: Re: [kj] Shades To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 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Win Prizes in the Windows Live Hotmail Mobile Summer Games Trivia Contest Find out how. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk Tue Aug 5 17:36:02 2008 From: mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk (Mike Cooper) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 22:36:02 +0100 Subject: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday References: <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE580B8A@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal><489723F2.4060102@yahoo.co.uk> <006401c8f67b$73fba0e0$4001a8c0@ptgint.com> Message-ID: <00f001c8f743$44aac190$6df76e5b@mhhome> congratulations - excellent news. More cake making required. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mik Raven To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 10:45 PM Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday ? blimey, I only baked 1 cake so you'll have to share! Bloody hell! Too many candles to even get close to! Happy birthday Janean and to my new fianc? Milinda. Mik ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of woody2shooz Sent: 04 August 2008 16:45 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday blimey, I only baked 1 cake so you'll have to share! Happy Bothday! Janean Lancaster wrote: Have a good birthday tomorrow, Melinda. I will! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Text inserted by Panda IS 2008: This message has NOT been classified as spam. 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Mik From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of joSent: 05 August 2008 13:20To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday Happy birthday Janean and to my new fianc? Milinda. Mik ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Congratulations to you both. Do we get invos to the wedding? _________________________________________________________________ Get Hotmail on your mobile from Vodafone http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/107571435/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karen.weil at sddt.com Tue Aug 5 18:30:29 2008 From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 15:30:29 -0700 Subject: [kj] joint birthdays References: Message-ID: <1BA05D6E37F44AC9B91C2D95AE1B5CEF@edweil> Cheers to a truly sweet person! Happy b-day, Milinda! k.w. The States ----- Original Message ----- From: melinda grant To: gathering at misera.net Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 3:16 PM Subject: [kj] joint birthdays thank you very much for all the birthday wishes to me and jenean,i did not exspect it,it was a nice suprise ;) milinda ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Make a mini you on Windows Live Messenger! Try it Now! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Try it Now! _______________________________________________Gathering mailing listGathering at misera.nethttp://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________________ Make a mini you on Windows Live Messenger! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/107571437/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jpwhkj at aol.com Tue Aug 5 19:15:26 2008 From: jpwhkj at aol.com (jpwhkj at aol.com) Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 19:15:26 -0400 Subject: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday In-Reply-To: <006401c8f67b$73fba0e0$4001a8c0@ptgint.com> References: <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE580B8A@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal> <489723F2.4060102@yahoo.co.uk> <006401c8f67b$73fba0e0$4001a8c0@ptgint.com> Message-ID: <8CAC56847A1C29D-1F00-5FC@FWM-D21.sysops.aol.com> Happy birthdaze and also congrats Mik and Milinda. Jamie -----Original Message----- From: Mik Raven To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Sent: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 22:45 Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday ??????? blimey, I only baked 1 cake so you'll have to share! ? Bloody hell! Too many candles to even get close to! ? Happy birthday Janean and to my new fianc? Milinda. ? Mik ? ? ? From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of woody2shooz Sent: 04 August 2008 16:45 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday ? blimey, I only baked 1 cake so you'll have to share! Happy Bothday! Janean Lancaster wrote: Have a good birthday tomorrow, Melinda. ? ? I will! ? ? --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Text inserted by Panda IS 2008: ? This message has NOT been classified as spam. 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URL: From hollytree1961 at hotmail.com Tue Aug 5 20:19:39 2008 From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com (melinda grant) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 01:19:39 +0100 Subject: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday In-Reply-To: <8CAC56847A1C29D-1F00-5FC@FWM-D21.sysops.aol.com> References: <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE580B8A@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal> <489723F2.4060102@yahoo.co.uk> <006401c8f67b$73fba0e0$4001a8c0@ptgint.com> <8CAC56847A1C29D-1F00-5FC@FWM-D21.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: thanks jamie,me and mik are very happy together and thrilled to bits by our recent decision to get engaged;) i will recieve my ring from mik next sat 9th august,it was ordered on the 4th of august,but has to be adjusted to fit my tiny finger lol--thats why we have to wait a few day b4 mik can oficially get on his knees in front of me ;-) milinda ps it will be the second time mik has been on his knees this week,he proposed to me on my birthday! milinda To: gathering at misera.netDate: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 19:15:26 -0400From: jpwhkj at aol.comSubject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint BirthdayHappy birthdaze and also congrats Mik and Milinda.Jamie-----Original Message-----From: Mik Raven To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Sent: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 22:45Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday ? blimey, I only baked 1 cake so you'll have to share! Bloody hell! Too many candles to even get close to! Happy birthday Janean and to my new fianc? Milinda. Mik From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of woody2shoozSent: 04 August 2008 16:45To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday blimey, I only baked 1 cake so you'll have to share!Happy Bothday!Janean Lancaster wrote: Have a good birthday tomorrow, Melinda. I will! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Text inserted by Panda IS 2008: This message has NOT been classified as spam. 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URL: From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Tue Aug 5 22:19:36 2008 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 14:19:36 +1200 (NZST) Subject: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday In-Reply-To: <010201c8f62a$cca1e340$0100000a@jo> References: <010201c8f62a$cca1e340$0100000a@jo> Message-ID: <16857.202.7.166.138.1217989176.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz> Happy Birthday from me too, sorry no internetty yesterday... > Ditto, > enjoy yourselves! > > > Happy Birthday to both of you > > > -----Original Message----- > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net > [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Janean Lancaster > Sent: 03 August 2008 16:39 > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) > Subject: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday > > > Have a good birthday tomorrow, Melinda. > > > > I will! > > > This communication may contain information that is confidential and > legally privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended > recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), please note that > any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the > information within is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you > have received this communication in error, please return it to the > sender, then delete and destroy any copies of it. The Health Informatics > Service disclaims any liability for action taken reliant on the content > of this message. This communication is from the Health Informatics > Service serving Barnet Enfield & Haringey Health Communities. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Tue Aug 5 22:48:43 2008 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 14:48:43 +1200 (NZST) Subject: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday In-Reply-To: <16857.202.7.166.138.1217989176.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz> References: <010201c8f62a$cca1e340$0100000a@jo> <16857.202.7.166.138.1217989176.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz> Message-ID: <38899.202.7.166.138.1217990923.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz> Oh and I just cottoned on, Congrats Milinda and Mik on your engagedness! > Happy Birthday from me too, sorry no internetty yesterday... > >> Ditto, >> enjoy yourselves! >> >> >> Happy Birthday to both of you >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net >> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Janean Lancaster >> Sent: 03 August 2008 16:39 >> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) >> Subject: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday >> >> >> Have a good birthday tomorrow, Melinda. >> >> >> >> I will! >> >> >> This communication may contain information that is confidential and >> legally privileged. 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And some more cakes of course Mike Cooper wrote: > congratulations - excellent news. More cake making required. > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Mik Raven > *To:* 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' > > *Sent:* Monday, August 04, 2008 10:45 PM > *Subject:* Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday > > ? blimey, I only baked 1 cake so you'll have to share! > > > > Bloody hell! Too many candles to even get close to! > > > > Happy birthday Janean and to my new fianc? 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They will have 88 guest drummers from all sorts of different bands playing 88 full drum sets for 88 mins. - should be interesting. Here's a link with all the info and a list of all the drummers participating. Billy Goat http://theguide.latimes.com/music/88-boadrum-event -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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They will have 88 guest drummers from all sorts of different > bands playing 88 full drum sets for 88 mins. - should be interesting. > Here's a link with all the info and a list of all the drummers > participating. > > > > Billy Goat > > > > > http://theguide.latimes.com/music/88-boadrum-event > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From bbarathy at btinternet.com Wed Aug 6 09:26:51 2008 From: bbarathy at btinternet.com (Bob Barathy) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 14:26:51 +0100 Subject: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Nice one Mik & Mel. When's the big day? Bob -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Phillipps Marc Sent: 05 August 2008 09:18 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday >my new fianc? Milinda. Congratulations :) -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Mik Raven Sent: 04 August 2008 22:46 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday ? blimey, I only baked 1 cake so you'll have to share! Bloody hell! Too many candles to even get close to! Happy birthday Janean and to my new fianc? Milinda. Mik ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of woody2shooz Sent: 04 August 2008 16:45 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday blimey, I only baked 1 cake so you'll have to share! Happy Bothday! Janean Lancaster wrote: Have a good birthday tomorrow, Melinda. 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KW California ----- Original Message ----- From: melinda grant To: gathering at misera.net Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 5:19 PM Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday thanks jamie,me and mik are very happy together and thrilled to bits by our recent decision to get engaged;) i will recieve my ring from mik next sat 9th august,it was ordered on the 4th of august,but has to be adjusted to fit my tiny finger lol--thats why we have to wait a few day b4 mik can oficially get on his knees in front of me ;-) milinda ps it will be the second time mik has been on his knees this week,he proposed to me on my birthday! milinda ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To: gathering at misera.net Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 19:15:26 -0400 From: jpwhkj at aol.com Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday Happy birthdaze and also congrats Mik and Milinda. Jamie -----Original Message----- From: Mik Raven To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Sent: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 22:45 Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday ? blimey, I only baked 1 cake so you'll have to share! Bloody hell! Too many candles to even get close to! Happy birthday Janean and to my new fianc? Milinda. Mik ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of woody2shooz Sent: 04 August 2008 16:45 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday blimey, I only baked 1 cake so you'll have to share! Happy Bothday! Janean Lancaster wrote: Have a good birthday tomorrow, Melinda. I will! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Text inserted by Panda IS 2008: This message has NOT been classified as spam. 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URL: From saulomar1 at yahoo.com Wed Aug 6 15:32:21 2008 From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com (sade1) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 12:32:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday In-Reply-To: <20080806144625.HM.0000000000007hv@jagargal.bos-mail-wwl12.lycos.com> Message-ID: <46520.23045.qm@web52607.mail.re2.yahoo.com> > ..couple is product of The Gathering... ? ?? The Gathering apparently has that effect. I think there's another Gathering couple that also met?here, and this was years before Craigslist!? The Gathering are pioneers!? ? > this lovely M&M couple... ? ?? So, who's the green one? ? ? ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current?state of things] 'Save me... ? save me?from Tomorrow.. ?? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...!'?? --- On Wed, 8/6/08, Javier Garcia wrote: From: Javier Garcia Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 11:46 AM I've been wondering if this lovely M&M couple is product of The Gathering or did you know each other before/apart from the list? Whatever, huge congratulations!! Jav mx ---------[ Received Mail Content ]---------- Subject : Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday Date : Tue, 5 Aug 2008 23:14:05 +0100 >From : "Mik Raven" To : "'A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)'" > Do we get invos to the wedding? Not even sorted out the engagement party yet! Thanks to all for the congrats. Mik _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of jo Sent: 05 August 2008 13:20 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday Happy birthday Janean and to my new fianc? Milinda. Mik ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Congratulations to you both. Do we get invos to the wedding? _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From saulomar1 at yahoo.com Wed Aug 6 16:47:59 2008 From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com (sade1) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 13:47:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [kj] Totally OT - KJ tourmates.. Motley Crue, Coming Home Message-ID: <396498.17680.qm@web52611.mail.re2.yahoo.com> ?? I know many here have been asking the understandable "when will's" and "what if's" concerning Killing Joke colleagues Motley Crue and will they be doing anything worthwile after touring and getting beat up by the Joke. ? ??????????? ?~ ~ "..I'm on my way...." ~ ~ ? ?? The Crue have resurfaced and are receiving widespread acclaim and recognition for their civic contributions.? I hope the article answers your concerns. ? Motley Crue Have Their Day.... http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2008/07/31/motley-crue-have-their-day-in-los-angeles/ ? ?????????? ~ ~ ". . I'm on my wa-a-ay . . . ." ~ ~? ? ?? Also, they have a contest currently, to find a band to open for the Crue on their??U.S. tour for $25,000. ?? Didn't Killing Joke win the last time, and for about the same sum? ? 8P ? 7/31/08, 2:08 pm EST The Mayor of Los Angeles.. ? *shakes head* ? ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current?state of things] 'Save me... ? save me?from Tomorrow.. ?? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...!'?? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com Wed Aug 6 16:54:19 2008 From: folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com (folk devil) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 13:54:19 -0700 Subject: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday In-Reply-To: <46520.23045.qm@web52607.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <20080806144625.HM.0000000000007hv@jagargal.bos-mail-wwl12.lycos.com> <46520.23045.qm@web52607.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I was curious about who the nutty one was...I hope there isn't a blue one... " Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 12:32:21 -0700From: saulomar1 at yahoo.comTo: gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday > ..couple is product of The Gathering... The Gathering apparently has that effect. I think there's another Gathering couple that also met here, and this was years before Craigslist! The Gathering are pioneers! > this lovely M&M couple... So, who's the green one? _________________________________________________________________ Get more from your digital life. Find out how. http://www.windowslive.com/default.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Home2_082008 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com Wed Aug 6 16:58:23 2008 From: folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com (folk devil) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 13:58:23 -0700 Subject: [kj] Totally OT - KJ tourmates.. Motley Crue, Coming Home In-Reply-To: <396498.17680.qm@web52611.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <396498.17680.qm@web52611.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: didn't anyone tell that guy sunbeds are bad for you? In partnership with Geetah centre...yuch!" Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 13:47:59 -0700From: saulomar1 at yahoo.comTo: gathering at misera.netSubject: [kj] Totally OT - KJ tourmates.. Motley Crue, Coming Home I know many here have been asking the understandable "when will's" and "what if's" concerning Killing Joke colleagues Motley Crue and will they be doing anything worthwile after touring and getting beat up by the Joke. ~ ~ "..I'm on my way...." ~ ~ The Crue have resurfaced and are receiving widespread acclaim and recognition for their civic contributions. I hope the article answers your concerns. Motley Crue Have Their Day.... http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2008/07/31/motley-crue-have-their-day-in-los-angeles/ ~ ~ ". . I'm on my wa-a-ay . . . ." ~ ~ Also, they have a contest currently, to find a band to open for the Crue on their U.S. tour for $25,000. Didn't Killing Joke win the last time, and for about the same sum? 8P 7/31/08, 2:08 pm EST The Mayor of Los Angeles.. *shakes head* ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...!' _________________________________________________________________ Got Game? Win Prizes in the Windows Live Hotmail Mobile Summer Games Trivia Contest http://www.gowindowslive.com/summergames?ocid=TXT_TAGHM -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mikraven at o2.co.uk Wed Aug 6 17:10:32 2008 From: mikraven at o2.co.uk (Mik Raven) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 22:10:32 +0100 Subject: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday In-Reply-To: <20080806144625.HM.0000000000007hv@jagargal.bos-mail-wwl12.lycos.com> References: <20080806144625.HM.0000000000007hv@jagargal.bos-mail-wwl12.lycos.com> Message-ID: <017401c8f808$dd097330$4001a8c0@ptgint.com> We first started chatting when Milinda discovered my KJ video page back in 2003 and I seem to remember signing her up for the gathering shortly after that, if that answers your question. We didn?t actually meet in person until 29th Feb this year. A significant day I think. For anyone who is wondering about my ex wife (I know some of you knew her), well she did the dirty on me with the builder who lived opposite us. Hence she?s now my ex and I have a new much improved love of my life. As for when the big day is, we will have to see when it feels right. At the moment we have a new life together to start building. Mik _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Javier Garcia Sent: 06 August 2008 19:46 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday I've been wondering if this lovely M&M couple is product of The Gathering or did you know each other before/apart from the list? Whatever, huge congratulations!! Jav mx ---------[ Received Mail Content ]---------- Subject : Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday Date : Tue, 5 Aug 2008 23:14:05 +0100 >From : "Mik Raven" To : "'A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)'" > Do we get invos to the wedding? Not even sorted out the engagement party yet! Thanks to all for the congrats. Mik _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of jo Sent: 05 August 2008 13:20 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday Happy birthday Janean and to my new fianc? Milinda. Mik ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Congratulations to you both. Do we get invos to the wedding? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karen.weil at sddt.com Wed Aug 6 17:40:44 2008 From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 14:40:44 -0700 Subject: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday References: <20080806144625.HM.0000000000007hv@jagargal.bos-mail-wwl12.lycos.com> <017401c8f808$dd097330$4001a8c0@ptgint.com> Message-ID: Well, I have to admire you for your openess ... All the best to you and the lovely Milinda. k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mik Raven To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 2:10 PM Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday We first started chatting when Milinda discovered my KJ video page back in 2003 and I seem to remember signing her up for the gathering shortly after that, if that answers your question. We didn't actually meet in person until 29th Feb this year. A significant day I think. For anyone who is wondering about my ex wife (I know some of you knew her), well she did the dirty on me with the builder who lived opposite us. Hence she's now my ex and I have a new much improved love of my life. As for when the big day is, we will have to see when it feels right. At the moment we have a new life together to start building. Mik ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Javier Garcia Sent: 06 August 2008 19:46 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday I've been wondering if this lovely M&M couple is product of The Gathering or did you know each other before/apart from the list? Whatever, huge congratulations!! Jav mx ---------[ Received Mail Content ]---------- Subject : Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday Date : Tue, 5 Aug 2008 23:14:05 +0100 From : "Mik Raven" To : "'A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)'" > Do we get invos to the wedding? Not even sorted out the engagement party yet! Thanks to all for the congrats. Mik _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of jo Sent: 05 August 2008 13:20 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday Happy birthday Janean and to my new fianc? Milinda. Mik ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Congratulations to you both. Do we get invos to the wedding? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bettedillinger at live.com Wed Aug 6 18:24:34 2008 From: bettedillinger at live.com (Bette Dillinger) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 18:24:34 -0400 Subject: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday In-Reply-To: <017401c8f808$dd097330$4001a8c0@ptgint.com> References: <20080806144625.HM.0000000000007hv@jagargal.bos-mail-wwl12.lycos.com> <017401c8f808$dd097330$4001a8c0@ptgint.com> Message-ID: Congrats to you two, and Happy B-Day to Melinda and Janean. May I suggest playing "A New Day" at your wedding? Just a thought. xo Bette From: mikraven at o2.co.ukTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 22:10:32 +0100Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday We first started chatting when Milinda discovered my KJ video page back in 2003 and I seem to remember signing her up for the gathering shortly after that, if that answers your question. We didn?t actually meet in person until 29th Feb this year. A significant day I think. For anyone who is wondering about my ex wife (I know some of you knew her), well she did the dirty on me with the builder who lived opposite us. Hence she?s now my ex and I have a new much improved love of my life. As for when the big day is, we will have to see when it feels right. At the moment we have a new life together to start building. Mik From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Javier GarciaSent: 06 August 2008 19:46To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday I've been wondering if this lovely M&M couple is product of The Gathering or did you know each other before/apart from the list? Whatever, huge congratulations!! Jav mx ---------[ Received Mail Content ]----------Subject : Re: [kj] (OT) Joint BirthdayDate : Tue, 5 Aug 2008 23:14:05 +0100From : "Mik Raven" To : "'A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)'" > Do we get invos to the wedding? Not even sorted out the engagement party yet! Thanks to all for the congrats. Mik _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of jo Sent: 05 August 2008 13:20 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday Happy birthday Janean and to my new fianc? Milinda. Mik ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Congratulations to you both. Do we get invos to the wedding? _________________________________________________________________ Got Game? Win Prizes in the Windows Live Hotmail Mobile Summer Games Trivia Contest http://www.gowindowslive.com/summergames?ocid=TXT_TAGHM -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com Wed Aug 6 18:29:53 2008 From: folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com (folk devil) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 15:29:53 -0700 Subject: [kj] (OT) M&M wedding advice In-Reply-To: <017401c8f808$dd097330$4001a8c0@ptgint.com> References: <20080806144625.HM.0000000000007hv@jagargal.bos-mail-wwl12.lycos.com> <017401c8f808$dd097330$4001a8c0@ptgint.com> Message-ID: Dear Tech support, > > > Last year I upgraded from Boyfriend 5.0 to Husband 1.0 and noticed a distinct slow down in overall system performance, particularly in the flower and jewelry applications, which operated flawlessly under Boyfriend 5.0. In addition, Husband 1.0 uninstalled many other valuable programs, such as Romance 9.5 and Personal Attention 6.5 and then installed undesirable programs such as NBA 5.0, NFL 3.0 and Golf Clubs 4.1. Conversation 8.0 no longer runs, and Housecleaning 2.6 simply crashes the system. I've tried running Nagging 5.3 to fix these > problems, but to no avail. > > What can I do? > > Signed, > > Desperate > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Dear Desperate, > > First keep in mind, Boyfriend 5.0 is an Entertainment Package, while Husband 1.0 is an operating system. Please enter command: > ithoughtyoulovedme.html and try to download Tears 6.2 and don't forget to install the Guilt 3.0 update. If that application works as designed, Husband 1.0 should then automatically run the applications Jewelry 2.0 and Flowers 3.5. But remember, overuse of the above application can cause Husband 1.0 to default to Grumpy Silence 2.5, Happy Hour 7.0 or Beer 6.1. Please note that Beer 6.1 is a very bad program that will download the Snoring Loudly Beta. > > Whatever you do, DO NOT install Mother-In-Law 1.0 (it runs a virus in the background that will eventually seize control of all your system resources.) > > Also do not attempt to reinstall Boyfriend 5.0 program. These are unsupported applications and will crash Husband 1.0. In summary, Husband 1.0 is a great program, but it does have limited memory and cannot learn new applications quickly. You might consider buying additional software to improve memory and performance. We recommend Cooking 3.0 and Hot Lingerie 7.7. > > Good Luck, > > Tech Support _________________________________________________________________ Get Windows Live and get whatever you need, wherever you are. Start here. http://www.windowslive.com/default.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Home_082008 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hollytree1961 at hotmail.com Wed Aug 6 18:56:29 2008 From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com (melinda grant) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 23:56:29 +0100 Subject: [kj] (OT) M&M wedding advice In-Reply-To: References: <20080806144625.HM.0000000000007hv@jagargal.bos-mail-wwl12.lycos.com> <017401c8f808$dd097330$4001a8c0@ptgint.com> Message-ID: LOL clever and made me and mik laugh hard ;D))))) cheers,nice one---milinda and mik--as he is here with me right nowi sign from us both;) From: folkdevil_23 at hotmail.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 15:29:53 -0700Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) M&M wedding advice Dear Tech support,>>> Last year I upgraded from Boyfriend 5.0 to Husband 1.0 and noticed adistinct slow down in overall system performance, particularly in theflower and jewelry applications, which operated flawlessly underBoyfriend 5.0. In addition, Husband 1.0 uninstalled many other valuableprograms, such as Romance 9.5 and Personal Attention 6.5 and theninstalled undesirable programs such as NBA 5.0, NFL 3.0 and Golf Clubs4.1. Conversation 8.0 no longer runs, and Housecleaning 2.6 simplycrashes the system. I've tried running Nagging 5.3 to fix these> problems, but to no avail.>> What can I do?>> Signed,>> Desperate>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++>> Dear Desperate,>> First keep in mind, Boyfriend 5.0 is an Entertainment Package, whileHusband 1.0 is an operating system. Please enter command:> ithoughtyoulovedme.html and try to download Tears 6.2 and don't forgetto install the Guilt 3.0 update. If that application works as designed,Husband 1.0 should then automatically run the applications Jewelry 2.0and Flowers 3.5. But remember, overuse of the above application cancause Husband 1.0 to default to Grumpy Silence 2.5, Happy Hour 7.0 orBeer 6.1. Please note that Beer 6.1 is a very bad program that willdownload the Snoring Loudly Beta.>> Whatever you do, DO NOT install Mother-In-Law 1.0 (it runs a virus inthe background that will eventually seize control of all your systemresources.)>> Also do not attempt to reinstall Boyfriend 5.0 program. These areunsupported applications and will crash Husband 1.0. In summary, Husband1.0 is a great program, but it does have limited memory and cannot learnnew applications quickly. You might consider buying additional softwareto improve memory and performance. We recommend Cooking 3.0 and HotLingerie 7.7.>> Good Luck,>> Tech Support Get Windows Live and get whatever you need, wherever you are. Start here. _________________________________________________________________ Win a voice over part with Kung Fu Panda & Live Search?? and?? 100?s of Kung Fu Panda prizes to win with Live Search http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/107571439/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From saulomar1 at yahoo.com Wed Aug 6 21:49:30 2008 From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com (sade1) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 18:49:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [kj] (OT) M&M wedding advice ftw! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <810545.5583.qm@web52607.mail.re2.yahoo.com> > ...recommend Cooking 3.0 and Hot Lingerie 7.7. > Good Luck, > Tech Support "Wot, no Antivirus? No, not the Spyware! Nooooo...." ? ?? Ack, and if nothing works... sounds like a case of? "hasta la*ahem*'Vista' :XP baby, and out the 'Window'..."? ? ? ? Oh boy, a.w.e.s.o.m. O, that was probably one of the best emails i've seen?on here in all the years of my Court-appointed?logging on to The Gathering [for aggravated felony punning].? it's one for the ages. ? \m/> ? ? From: folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 15:29:53 -0700 Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) M&M wedding advice #yiv1193751325 .ExternalClass .EC_hmmessage P {padding:0px;} #yiv1193751325 .ExternalClass body.EC_hmmessage {font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma;} Dear Tech support, > > > Last year I upgraded from Boyfriend 5.0 to Husband 1.0 and noticed a distinct slow down in overall system performance, particularly in the flower and jewelry applications, which operated flawlessly under Boyfriend 5.0. In addition, Husband 1.0 uninstalled many other valuable programs, such as Romance 9.5 and Personal Attention 6.5 and then installed undesirable programs such as NBA 5.0, NFL 3.0 and Golf Clubs 4.1. Conversation 8.0 no longer runs, and Housecleaning 2.6 simply crashes the system. I've tried running Nagging 5.3 to fix these > problems, but to no avail. > > What can I do? > > Signed, > > Desperate > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Dear Desperate, > > First keep in mind, Boyfriend 5.0 is an Entertainment Package, while Husband 1.0 is an operating system. Please enter command: > ithoughtyoulovedme.html and try to download Tears 6.2 and don't forget to install the Guilt 3.0 update. If that application works as designed, Husband 1.0 should then automatically run the applications Jewelry 2.0 and Flowers 3.5. But remember, overuse of the above application can cause Husband 1.0 to default to Grumpy Silence 2.5, Happy Hour 7.0 or Beer 6.1. Please note that Beer 6.1 is a very bad program that will download the Snoring Loudly Beta. > > Whatever you do, DO NOT install Mother-In-Law 1.0 (it runs a virus in the background that will eventually seize control of all your system resources.) > > Also do not attempt to reinstall Boyfriend 5.0 program. These are unsupported applications and will crash Husband 1.0. In summary, Husband 1.0 is a great program, but it does have limited memory and cannot learn new applications quickly. You might consider buying additional software to improve memory and performance. We recommend Cooking 3.0 and Hot Lingerie 7.7. > > Good Luck, > > Tech Support -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html From crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk Thu Aug 7 06:02:31 2008 From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk (Change) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 10:02:31 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] [OT] Magazine to reform? In-Reply-To: <704633.27772.qm@web27803.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <378789.88203.qm@web23204.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Does anyone have a clue who does press for Magazine??My editor wants a Devoto interview. __________________________________________________________ Not happy with your email address?. Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk Thu Aug 7 06:05:11 2008 From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk (Change) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 10:05:11 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] Wire OT In-Reply-To: <000601c8f423$b13173e0$13945ba0$@com> Message-ID: <324553.89754.qm@web23204.mail.ird.yahoo.com> 1. Chairs Missing is one of the best albums ever made. 2. The new WIRE album is indeed excellent, however I prefer SEND. Lewis said they didn't want to leave WIRE in such a dark place, although maybe Gilbert did as he is no longer involved with the band. 3. WIRE tour UK in September. RTX, Kristin Hersh, Githead, Shellac, Michael Gira & the Dirty Three interviewed here: http://www.perfectsoundforever.com --- On Fri, 1/8/08, Darren A. Peace wrote: > From: Darren A. Peace > Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine to reform? > To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" > Date: Friday, 1 August, 2008, 11:12 PM > Hi Mik. > > That's fantastic as in a combination of the noise of > SEND and the weirdness > of THE IDEAL COPY. Doubt they'll release any more > albums with 30+ 2 minute > tracks on (prefer 154 to both Pink Flag & Chairs > Missing, myself). > > Darren > Hungerford, UK > > -----Original Message----- > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net > [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On > Behalf Of Mik Raven > Sent: 01 August 2008 21:17 > To: gathering at misera.net > Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine to reform? > > > And the new Wire album is FANTASTIC! > > Is that fantastic just compared to Chair's Missing or > whatever it was called > which didn't exactly set the world on fire, or me for > that matter? > > Mik I am the fly Raven > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering __________________________________________________________ Not happy with your email address?. Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html From crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk Thu Aug 7 06:09:19 2008 From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk (Change) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 10:09:19 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] [OT] Peaches vs. Cheeches In-Reply-To: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC07210F@mr-pants.mshome.net> Message-ID: <309549.42798.qm@web23208.mail.ird.yahoo.com> I have builders in moving my bathroom to another location and yesterday we were all singing along to "The Very Best of the Stranglers" which I found in Wolverhampton PDSA for ?1 on the day the Buttholes nearly destroyed the Wulfrun PA. Anyway one of the builders said he thought "Peaches" had been in a Cheech and Chong film which reminded me that Rollins Band covered a c&C song but I can't find my copy of that Rollins EP... anyone remember the song? --- On Thu, 31/7/08, ade wrote: > From: ade > Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine to reform? > To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" > Date: Thursday, 31 July, 2008, 9:23 PM > > I mean, Cheech & Chong have also reunited now, > apparently! > > More good news! __________________________________________________________ Not happy with your email address?. Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html From vassifer at earthlink.net Thu Aug 7 07:24:36 2008 From: vassifer at earthlink.net (Alexander Smith) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 07:24:36 -0400 Subject: [kj] [OT] Peaches vs. Cheeches In-Reply-To: <309549.42798.qm@web23208.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <309549.42798.qm@web23208.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8816C3E8-39EF-4310-858F-FAA103544665@earthlink.net> Rollins covered "Earache My Eye" (also covered by Soundgarden). Not sure, but it might have been on the live e.p. that followed HARD VOLUME. Alex in NYC On Aug 7, 2008, at 6:09 AM, Change wrote: > I have builders in moving my bathroom to another location and > yesterday we were all singing along to "The Very Best of the > Stranglers" which I found in Wolverhampton PDSA for ?1 on the day > the Buttholes nearly destroyed the Wulfrun PA. > > Anyway one of the builders said he thought "Peaches" had been in a > Cheech and Chong film which reminded me that Rollins Band covered a > c&C song but I can't find my copy of that Rollins EP... anyone > remember the song? > > --- On Thu, 31/7/08, ade wrote: > >> From: ade >> Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine to reform? >> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" > > >> Date: Thursday, 31 July, 2008, 9:23 PM >>> I mean, Cheech & Chong have also reunited now, >> apparently! >> >> More good news! > > > > __________________________________________________________ > Not happy with your email address?. > Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses > available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk Thu Aug 7 08:17:24 2008 From: Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk (Phillipps Marc) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 13:17:24 +0100 Subject: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday References: <46520.23045.qm@web52607.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: >there's another Gathering couple that also met here Paul & Bev . . . ________________________________ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1 Sent: 06 August 2008 20:32 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday > ..couple is product of The Gathering... The Gathering apparently has that effect. I think there's another Gathering couple that also met here, and this was years before Craigslist ! The Gathering are pioneers! > this lovely M&M couple... So, who's the green one? ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...!' --- On Wed, 8/6/08, Javier Garcia wrote: From: Javier Garcia Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 11:46 AM I've been wondering if this lovely M&M couple is product of The Gathering or did you know each other before/apart from the list? Whatever, huge congratulations!! Jav mx ---------[ Received Mail Content ]---------- Subject : Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday Date : Tue, 5 Aug 2008 23:14:05 +0100 >From : "Mik Raven" To : "'A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)'" > Do we get invos to the wedding? Not even sorted out the engagement party yet! Thanks to all for the congrats. Mik _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of jo Sent: 05 August 2008 13:20 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday Happy birthday Janean and to my new fianc? Milinda. Mik ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Congratulations to you both. Do we get invos to the wedding? _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering This communication may contain information that is confidential and legally privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information within is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please return it to the sender, then delete and destroy any copies of it. The Health Informatics Service disclaims any liability for action taken reliant on the content of this message. This communication is from the Health Informatics Service serving Barnet Enfield & Haringey Health Communities. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paul.rangecroft at gmail.com Thu Aug 7 17:43:24 2008 From: paul.rangecroft at gmail.com (Paul Rangecroft) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 22:43:24 +0100 Subject: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday In-Reply-To: References: <46520.23045.qm@web52607.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3c8c7e280808071443g776127acwff847d64d4e35a53@mail.gmail.com> Happy days... most of them, anyway! Sincere congratulations to Mik and Milinda. It's great when the main musical arguments are which Killing Joke tracks to play. Don't Bogart that joint birthday cake, pass it over to me... On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 1:17 PM, Phillipps Marc < Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk> wrote: > >there's another Gathering couple that also met here > > > > Paul & Bev . . . > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vassifer at earthlink.net Thu Aug 7 17:50:13 2008 From: vassifer at earthlink.net (Alexander Smith) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 17:50:13 -0400 Subject: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday In-Reply-To: <3c8c7e280808071443g776127acwff847d64d4e35a53@mail.gmail.com> References: <46520.23045.qm@web52607.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <3c8c7e280808071443g776127acwff847d64d4e35a53@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7CEEBF93-C56C-45D6-B68E-75C913FBB9AF@earthlink.net> I'm so late with this, my apologies -- I can only read Gathering mails in blocks these days, it seems. In any case, CONGRATS to Mik & Milinda!! Alex in NYC On Aug 7, 2008, at 5:43 PM, Paul Rangecroft wrote: > Happy days... most of them, anyway! > > Sincere congratulations to Mik and Milinda. It's great when the main > musical arguments are which Killing Joke tracks to play. > > Don't Bogart that joint birthday cake, pass it over to me... > > On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 1:17 PM, Phillipps Marc > wrote: > >there's another Gathering couple that also met here > > > Paul & Bev . . . > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From humanhybrid666 at gmail.com Thu Aug 7 18:08:26 2008 From: humanhybrid666 at gmail.com (bongo) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 10:08:26 +1200 Subject: [kj] Jaz Migration Moonlight In-Reply-To: <349047.79519.qm@web23204.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <43943.202.7.166.138.1218003295.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz> <349047.79519.qm@web23204.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: t'was, 'the great migration' by a band called 'this is menace' if my file is correctly labelled... sent you the mp3 since i'm on broadband for a few hours... =) On 8/7/08, Change wrote: > Can someoene direct me to the URL to hear that great track Jaz did vocals on > which I think was called "The Secret Migration" > > Where did it originate? > > On what album was it released? > > > __________________________________________________________ > Not happy with your email address?. > Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now > at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > -- "due to a lack of trained trumpeters, the end of the world has been postponed indefinitely..." From humanhybrid666 at gmail.com Thu Aug 7 18:10:08 2008 From: humanhybrid666 at gmail.com (bongo) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 10:10:08 +1200 Subject: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday In-Reply-To: <3c8c7e280808071443g776127acwff847d64d4e35a53@mail.gmail.com> References: <46520.23045.qm@web52607.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <3c8c7e280808071443g776127acwff847d64d4e35a53@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: happiness and joy to all! (where's that joint..??!) =) -- "due to a lack of trained trumpeters, the end of the world has been postponed indefinitely..." From BMeissner at encorehollywood.com Thu Aug 7 22:33:35 2008 From: BMeissner at encorehollywood.com (Bill Meissner) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 19:33:35 -0700 Subject: [kj] [OT] Peaches vs. Cheeches In-Reply-To: <8816C3E8-39EF-4310-858F-FAA103544665@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <5AD3143C248D1646A097487465F7702390D354@fountain6344ex2.corp.ad> It was actually on one of the early Sub Pop singles club releases if I remember correctly. Billy Goat -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Alexander Smith Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 4:25 AM To: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Peaches vs. Cheeches Rollins covered "Earache My Eye" (also covered by Soundgarden). Not sure, but it might have been on the live e.p. that followed HARD VOLUME. Alex in NYC On Aug 7, 2008, at 6:09 AM, Change wrote: > I have builders in moving my bathroom to another location and > yesterday we were all singing along to "The Very Best of the > Stranglers" which I found in Wolverhampton PDSA for ?1 on the day > the Buttholes nearly destroyed the Wulfrun PA. > > Anyway one of the builders said he thought "Peaches" had been in a > Cheech and Chong film which reminded me that Rollins Band covered a > c&C song but I can't find my copy of that Rollins EP... anyone > remember the song? > > --- On Thu, 31/7/08, ade wrote: > >> From: ade >> Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine to reform? >> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" > > >> Date: Thursday, 31 July, 2008, 9:23 PM >>> I mean, Cheech & Chong have also reunited now, >> apparently! >> >> More good news! > > > > __________________________________________________________ > Not happy with your email address?. > Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses > available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From mikraven at o2.co.uk Fri Aug 8 05:25:48 2008 From: mikraven at o2.co.uk (Mik Raven) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 10:25:48 +0100 Subject: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday In-Reply-To: References: <46520.23045.qm@web52607.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000001c8f938$be79fe90$4001a8c0@ptgint.com> There was another ill fated relationship back in 2003 between two gatherers. Just in case it?s not common knowledge I will not mention any names however. _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Phillipps Marc Sent: 07 August 2008 13:17 To: saulomar1 at yahoo.com; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday >there's another Gathering couple that also met here Paul & Bev . . . _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1 Sent: 06 August 2008 20:32 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday > ..couple is product of The Gathering... The Gathering apparently has that effect. I think there's another Gathering couple that also met here, and this was years before Craigslist! The Gathering are pioneers! > this lovely M&M couple... So, who's the green one? ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...!' --- On Wed, 8/6/08, Javier Garcia wrote: From: Javier Garcia Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 11:46 AM I've been wondering if this lovely M&M couple is product of The Gathering or did you know each other before/apart from the list? Whatever, huge congratulations!! Jav mx ---------[ Received Mail Content ]---------- Subject : Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday Date : Tue, 5 Aug 2008 23:14:05 +0100 >From : "Mik Raven" To : "'A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)'" > Do we get invos to the wedding? Not even sorted out the engagement party yet! Thanks to all for the congrats. Mik _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of jo Sent: 05 August 2008 13:20 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday Happy birthday Janean and to my new fianc? Milinda. Mik ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Congratulations to you both. Do we get invos to the wedding? _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering This communication may contain information that is confidential and legally privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information within is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please return it to the sender, then delete and destroy any copies of it. The Health Informatics Service disclaims any liability for action taken reliant on the content of this message. 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Just in case it's not common knowledge I will not mention any names however. ________________________________ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Phillipps Marc Sent: 07 August 2008 13:17 To: saulomar1 at yahoo.com; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday >there's another Gathering couple that also met here Paul & Bev . . . ________________________________ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1 Sent: 06 August 2008 20:32 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday > ..couple is product of The Gathering... The Gathering apparently has that effect. I think there's another Gathering couple that also met here, and this was years before Craigslist ! The Gathering are pioneers! > this lovely M&M couple... So, who's the green one? ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...!' --- On Wed, 8/6/08, Javier Garcia wrote: From: Javier Garcia Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 11:46 AM I've been wondering if this lovely M&M couple is product of The Gathering or did you know each other before/apart from the list? Whatever, huge congratulations!! Jav mx ---------[ Received Mail Content ]---------- Subject : Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday Date : Tue, 5 Aug 2008 23:14:05 +0100 >From : "Mik Raven" To : "'A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)'" > Do we get invos to the wedding? Not even sorted out the engagement party yet! Thanks to all for the congrats. Mik _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of jo Sent: 05 August 2008 13:20 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday Happy birthday Janean and to my new fianc? Milinda. Mik ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Congratulations to you both. Do we get invos to the wedding? _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering This communication may contain information that is confidential and legally privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information within is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please return it to the sender, then delete and destroy any copies of it. The Health Informatics Service disclaims any liability for action taken reliant on the content of this message. This communication is from the Health Informatics Service serving Barnet Enfield & Haringey Health Communities. This communication may contain information that is confidential and legally privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information within is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please return it to the sender, then delete and destroy any copies of it. The Health Informatics Service disclaims any liability for action taken reliant on the content of this message. This communication is from the Health Informatics Service serving Barnet Enfield & Haringey Health Communities. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Rob at westwoodassociates.co.uk Fri Aug 8 05:57:55 2008 From: Rob at westwoodassociates.co.uk (Rob Horan) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 10:57:55 +0100 Subject: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday In-Reply-To: <000001c8f938$be79fe90$4001a8c0@ptgint.com> References: <46520.23045.qm@web52607.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <000001c8f938$be79fe90$4001a8c0@ptgint.com> Message-ID: <659B6598190BF74586E8DD03BBB850838AFB04@Server1.HeadOffice.Westwood.local> yes it's common knowledge..........just remind us tho' ________________________________ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Mik Raven Sent: 08 August 2008 10:26 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday There was another ill fated relationship back in 2003 between two gatherers. Just in case it's not common knowledge I will not mention any names however. ________________________________ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Phillipps Marc Sent: 07 August 2008 13:17 To: saulomar1 at yahoo.com; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday >there's another Gathering couple that also met here Paul & Bev . . . ________________________________ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1 Sent: 06 August 2008 20:32 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday > ..couple is product of The Gathering... The Gathering apparently has that effect. I think there's another Gathering couple that also met here, and this was years before Craigslist ! The Gathering are pioneers! > this lovely M&M couple... So, who's the green one? ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...!' --- On Wed, 8/6/08, Javier Garcia wrote: From: Javier Garcia Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 11:46 AM I've been wondering if this lovely M&M couple is product of The Gathering or did you know each other before/apart from the list? Whatever, huge congratulations!! Jav mx ---------[ Received Mail Content ]---------- Subject : Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday Date : Tue, 5 Aug 2008 23:14:05 +0100 >From : "Mik Raven" To : "'A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)'" > Do we get invos to the wedding? Not even sorted out the engagement party yet! Thanks to all for the congrats. Mik _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of jo Sent: 05 August 2008 13:20 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday Happy birthday Janean and to my new fianc? Milinda. Mik ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Congratulations to you both. Do we get invos to the wedding? _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering This communication may contain information that is confidential and legally privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information within is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please return it to the sender, then delete and destroy any copies of it. The Health Informatics Service disclaims any liability for action taken reliant on the content of this message. 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Just in case it's not common knowledge I will not mention any names however. _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Phillipps Marc Sent: 07 August 2008 13:17 To: saulomar1 at yahoo.com; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday >there's another Gathering couple that also met here Paul & Bev . . . _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1 Sent: 06 August 2008 20:32 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday > ..couple is product of The Gathering... The Gathering apparently has that effect. I think there's another Gathering couple that also met here, and this was years before Craigslist! The Gathering are pioneers! > this lovely M&M couple... So, who's the green one? ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...!' --- On Wed, 8/6/08, Javier Garcia wrote: From: Javier Garcia Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 11:46 AM I've been wondering if this lovely M&M couple is product of The Gathering or did you know each other before/apart from the list? Whatever, huge congratulations!! Jav mx ---------[ Received Mail Content ]---------- Subject : Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday Date : Tue, 5 Aug 2008 23:14:05 +0100 >From : "Mik Raven" To : "'A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)'" > Do we get invos to the wedding? Not even sorted out the engagement party yet! Thanks to all for the congrats. Mik _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of jo Sent: 05 August 2008 13:20 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday Happy birthday Janean and to my new fianc? Milinda. Mik ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Congratulations to you both. Do we get invos to the wedding? _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering This communication may contain information that is confidential and legally privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information within is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please return it to the sender, then delete and destroy any copies of it. The Health Informatics Service disclaims any liability for action taken reliant on the content of this message. 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URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 08082008095.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 22222 bytes Desc: not available Url : From cliffmonka at alaska.net Fri Aug 8 17:54:03 2008 From: cliffmonka at alaska.net (cliffmonka at alaska.net) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 13:54:03 -0800 (AKDT) Subject: [kj] OT 8 8 88 at 8pm In-Reply-To: <5AD3143C248D1646A097487465F7702390D350@fountain6344ex2.corp.ad> References: <5AD3143C248D1646A097487465F7702390D350@fountain6344ex2.corp.ad> Message-ID: <33356.72.42.164.101.1218232443.squirrel@mymail.acsalaska.net> 8 8 1988 at 8pm EST Cliff & Kara were married. Today celebrated our 20th,still alive and have not killed each other yet,haha.Jus sharing this with ya,had a blast of a ceremony 20 yrs ago,8 horses, fire crazy costumes,and reception Guiness on tap 4 bands played lunar bear ensamble with Martin Atkins on the drums,and WilliamTucker in attendance yelling like a drunken madman with the rest of us. Tonight i dj a party for people with disabilities,and we all howl.Cliff From jagargal at lycos.com Fri Aug 8 18:09:14 2008 From: jagargal at lycos.com (Javier Garcia) Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 18:09:14 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday Message-ID: <20080808180914.HM.0000000000007iR@jagargal.bos-mail-wwl12.lycos.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jagargal at lycos.com Fri Aug 8 18:09:14 2008 From: jagargal at lycos.com (Javier Garcia) Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 18:09:14 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday Message-ID: <20080808180914.HM.0000000000007iR@jagargal.bos-mail-wwl12.lycos.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tabazan at gmail.com Fri Aug 8 18:12:53 2008 From: tabazan at gmail.com (Tabazan) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 23:12:53 +0100 Subject: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday In-Reply-To: <20080808180914.HM.0000000000007iR@jagargal.bos-mail-wwl12.lycos.com> References: <20080808180914.HM.0000000000007iR@jagargal.bos-mail-wwl12.lycos.com> Message-ID: <4881fb6c0808081512p35608148jf61565e0691b46b8@mail.gmail.com> It was me and Jamie (in a wig) On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 11:09 PM, Javier Garcia wrote: > Right, right... they were this two gatherers... lovely couple!... this guy > and this gal... damn! can't remember their names... > > WHO WERE THEY?!?!?!? > > > Jav > mexcity > > > > > > > > ---------[ Received Mail Content ]---------- > > *Subject : *Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday > > *Date : *Fri, 8 Aug 2008 10:57:55 +0100 > > *From : *"Rob Horan" > > *To : *"A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" < > gathering at misera.net> > > > > yes it's common knowledge..........just remind us tho' > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] > On Behalf Of Mik Raven > > Sent: 08 August 2008 10:26 > > To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' > > Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday > > > > > > > > There was another ill fated relationship back in 2003 between two > gatherers. Just in case it's not common knowledge I will not mention any > names however. > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] > On Behalf Of Phillipps Marc > > Sent: 07 August 2008 13:17 > > To: saulomar1 at yahoo.com; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) > > Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday > > > > > > > > >there's another Gathering couple that also met here > > > > > > > > Paul & Bev . . . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] > On Behalf Of sade1 > > Sent: 06 August 2008 20:32 > > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) > > Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday > > > > > > > > > ..couple is product of The Gathering... > > > > > > > > The Gathering apparently has that effect. I think there's another Gathering > > > > > couple that also met here, and this was years before Craigslist ! > > > > The Gathering are pioneers! > > > > > > > > > this lovely M&M couple... > > > > > > > > So, who's the green one? > > > > > > > > > > > > ... ... ... ... ... ... > > > > > > [looking at the current state of things] > > > > > > 'Save me... > > > > save me from Tomorrow.. > > > > I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...!' > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 8/6/08, Javier Garcia wrote: > > > > From: Javier Garcia > > Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday > > To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" > > Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 11:46 AM > > > > I've been wondering if this lovely M&M couple is product of The Gathering > or did you know each other before/apart from the list? > > > > Whatever, huge congratulations!! > > > > Jav > > mx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------[ Received Mail Content ]---------- > > > > Subject : Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday > > > > Date : Tue, 5 Aug 2008 23:14:05 +0100 > > > > >From : "Mik Raven" > > > > To : "'A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)'" > > > > > > > > > Do we get invos to the wedding? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not even sorted out the engagement party yet! Thanks to all for the > > > > congrats. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] > On > > > > Behalf Of jo > > > > Sent: 05 August 2008 13:20 > > > > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) > > > > Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Happy birthday Janean and to my new fianc? Milinda. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mik > > > > > > > > ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Congratulations to you both. > > > > > > > > Do we get invos to the wedding? > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Gathering mailing list > > Gathering at misera.net > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > > > > > > > > > This communication may contain information that is confidential and legally > privileged. 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Today celebrated our 20th,still> alive and have not killed each other yet,haha.Jus sharing this with ya,had a blast> of a ceremony 20 yrs ago,8 horses, fire crazy costumes,and reception Guiness on tap> 4 bands played lunar bear ensamble with Martin Atkins on the drums,and> WilliamTucker in attendance yelling like a drunken madman with the rest of us.> Tonight i dj a party for people with disabilities,and we all howl.Cliff> > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________________ Your PC, mobile phone, and online services work together like never before. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/108587394/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From humanhybrid666 at gmail.com Fri Aug 8 19:18:55 2008 From: humanhybrid666 at gmail.com (bongo) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 11:18:55 +1200 Subject: [kj] OT 8 8 88 at 8pm In-Reply-To: <33356.72.42.164.101.1218232443.squirrel@mymail.acsalaska.net> References: <5AD3143C248D1646A097487465F7702390D350@fountain6344ex2.corp.ad> <33356.72.42.164.101.1218232443.squirrel@mymail.acsalaska.net> Message-ID: fuckin awesome! big hearty congrats, i got one guinness left in the fridge which i'll raise northwards this eve when the day is done . . . prost! =) On 8/9/08, cliffmonka at alaska.net wrote: > 8 8 1988 at 8pm EST Cliff & Kara were married. Today celebrated our > 20th,still > alive and have not killed each other yet,haha.Jus sharing this with ya,had a > blast > of a ceremony 20 yrs ago,8 horses, fire crazy costumes,and reception Guiness > on tap > 4 bands played lunar bear ensamble with Martin Atkins on the drums,and > WilliamTucker in attendance yelling like a drunken madman with the rest of > us. > Tonight i dj a party for people with disabilities,and we all howl.Cliff > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > -- "due to a lack of trained trumpeters, the end of the world has been postponed indefinitely..." From hollytree1961 at hotmail.com Fri Aug 8 19:33:46 2008 From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com (melinda grant) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 00:33:46 +0100 Subject: [kj] OT 8 8 88 at 8pm In-Reply-To: <33356.72.42.164.101.1218232443.squirrel@mymail.acsalaska.net> References: <5AD3143C248D1646A097487465F7702390D350@fountain6344ex2.corp.ad> <33356.72.42.164.101.1218232443.squirrel@mymail.acsalaska.net> Message-ID: what an achievement,thats phantastic cliff,well done and i hope me and mik can say the same about us in 20 yrs ;D glad your having a good time ;D me and mik are both stoned and a little drunk on red and white wine,we are celebrating after all,we will have a drimk for you and your wife as well ok ;0 cheers milinda and mik raven> Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 13:54:03 -0800> From: cliffmonka at alaska.net> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: [kj] OT 8 8 88 at 8pm> > 8 8 1988 at 8pm EST Cliff & Kara were married. Today celebrated our 20th,still> alive and have not killed each other yet,haha.Jus sharing this with ya,had a blast> of a ceremony 20 yrs ago,8 horses, fire crazy costumes,and reception Guiness on tap> 4 bands played lunar bear ensamble with Martin Atkins on the drums,and> WilliamTucker in attendance yelling like a drunken madman with the rest of us.> Tonight i dj a party for people with disabilities,and we all howl.Cliff> > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________________ Win New York holidays with Kellogg?s & Live Search http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/107571440/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sandstorm_mg at yahoo.com Fri Aug 8 22:52:02 2008 From: sandstorm_mg at yahoo.com (Michael Garcia) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 19:52:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [kj] OT 8 8 88 at 8pm Message-ID: <211126.79554.qm@web33002.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Congrats Cliff. That's a long ass time! lol Enjoy the party ----- Original Message ---- From: "cliffmonka at alaska.net" To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, August 8, 2008 2:54:03 PM Subject: [kj] OT 8 8 88 at 8pm 8 8 1988 at 8pm EST Cliff & Kara were married. Today celebrated our 20th,still alive and have not killed each other yet,haha.Jus sharing this with ya,had a blast of a ceremony 20 yrs ago,8 horses, fire crazy costumes,and reception Guiness on tap 4 bands played lunar bear ensamble with Martin Atkins on the drums,and WilliamTucker in attendance yelling like a drunken madman with the rest of us. 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Mark From a.tolksdorf at yahoo.co.uk Sat Aug 9 04:54:40 2008 From: a.tolksdorf at yahoo.co.uk (Alexandra Tolksdorf) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 08:54:40 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] OT 8 8 88 at 8pm In-Reply-To: <33356.72.42.164.101.1218232443.squirrel@mymail.acsalaska.net> Message-ID: <794960.37147.qm@web27803.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Congratulations and big hugs?to both of you from John and me. ~Alexandra. --- On Fri, 8/8/08, cliffmonka at alaska.net wrote: From: cliffmonka at alaska.net Subject: [kj] OT 8 8 88 at 8pm To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" Date: Friday, 8 August, 2008, 10:54 PM 8 8 1988 at 8pm EST Cliff & Kara were married. Today celebrated our 20th,still alive and have not killed each other yet,haha.Jus sharing this with ya,had a blast of a ceremony 20 yrs ago,8 horses, fire crazy costumes,and reception Guiness on tap 4 bands played lunar bear ensamble with Martin Atkins on the drums,and WilliamTucker in attendance yelling like a drunken madman with the rest of us. Tonight i dj a party for people with disabilities,and we all howl.Cliff _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering __________________________________________________________ Not happy with your email address?. Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cliffmonka at alaska.net Sat Aug 9 10:24:43 2008 From: cliffmonka at alaska.net (cliffmonka at alaska.net) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 06:24:43 -0800 (AKDT) Subject: [kj] OT 8 8 88 at 8pm In-Reply-To: <794960.37147.qm@web27803.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <794960.37147.qm@web27803.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <33444.72.42.164.101.1218291883.squirrel@mymail.acsalaska.net> Big Thanks to everyone.woohoo,party was excellent,well i had to work on my anniversary,and now it's 630 am alaska time the next day and i'm off to work my 2nd weekend job,yeehaw,Cliff > Congratulations and big hugs??to both of you from John and me. > > ~Alexandra. > > --- On Fri, 8/8/08, cliffmonka at alaska.net wrote: > > From: cliffmonka at alaska.net > Subject: [kj] OT 8 8 88 at 8pm > To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" > Date: Friday, 8 August, 2008, 10:54 PM > > 8 8 1988 at 8pm EST Cliff & Kara were married. Today celebrated our > 20th,still > alive and have not killed each other yet,haha.Jus sharing this with ya,had a > blast > of a ceremony 20 yrs ago,8 horses, fire crazy costumes,and reception Guiness on > tap > 4 bands played lunar bear ensamble with Martin Atkins on the drums,and > WilliamTucker in attendance yelling like a drunken madman with the rest of us. > Tonight i dj a party for people with disabilities,and we all howl.Cliff > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > __________________________________________________________ > Not happy with your email address?. > Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at > Yahoo! > http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html_______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From LONESTYLE at aol.com Sat Aug 9 12:10:40 2008 From: LONESTYLE at aol.com (LONESTYLE at aol.com) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 12:10:40 EDT Subject: [kj] OT 8 8 88 at 8pm Message-ID: Congrats to you and Kara! You two make a great couple Cliff! Cheers, ~ LB In a message dated 8/8/2008 2:54:13 PM Pacific Daylight Time, cliffmonka at alaska.net writes: 8 8 1988 at 8pm EST Cliff & Kara were married. Today celebrated our 20th,still alive and have not killed each other yet,haha.Jus sharing this with ya,had a blast of a ceremony 20 yrs ago,8 horses, fire crazy costumes,and reception Guiness on tap 4 bands played lunar bear ensamble with Martin Atkins on the drums,and WilliamTucker in attendance yelling like a drunken madman with the rest of us. Tonight i dj a party for people with disabilities,and we all howl.Cliff **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 ) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Message-ID: <000e01c8fa6a$3f3b08d0$0201a8c0@PSSYCHE23> Just got back from a week on holiday in Pagham (that's somewhere between Bognor Regis & Selsey) ... so, hot on the foot of my Jupiter ramblings ... the first picture from NASA of water on Mars -- absolutely outstanding ! * http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/0504/WaterOnMars2_gcc.jpg * From antoni at clara.net Sat Aug 9 17:54:30 2008 From: antoni at clara.net (pssyche23) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 22:54:30 +0100 Subject: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday References: <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE580B8A@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal><489723F2.4060102@yahoo.co.uk> <006401c8f67b$73fba0e0$4001a8c0@ptgint.com> Message-ID: <001e01c8fa6a$8081d990$0201a8c0@PSSYCHE23> Joketastic - Mik and Milinda ... can't say I'm too surprised though, you old lovebirds !!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Mik Raven To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 10:45 PM Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday ? blimey, I only baked 1 cake so you'll have to share! Bloody hell! Too many candles to even get close to! Happy birthday Janean and to my new fianc? Milinda. Mik ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of woody2shooz Sent: 04 August 2008 16:45 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday blimey, I only baked 1 cake so you'll have to share! Happy Bothday! Janean Lancaster wrote: Have a good birthday tomorrow, Melinda. I will! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Text inserted by Panda IS 2008: This message has NOT been classified as spam. 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Regards, Antoni ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 10:54 PM Subject: [kj] OT 8 8 88 at 8pm >8 8 1988 at 8pm EST Cliff & Kara were married. Today celebrated our >20th,still > alive and have not killed each other yet,haha.Jus sharing this with ya,had > a blast > of a ceremony 20 yrs ago,8 horses, fire crazy costumes,and reception > Guiness on tap > 4 bands played lunar bear ensamble with Martin Atkins on the drums,and > WilliamTucker in attendance yelling like a drunken madman with the rest of > us. > Tonight i dj a party for people with disabilities,and we all howl.Cliff > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.0/1602 - Release Date: 09/08/2008 > 13:22 > > > From antoni at clara.net Sat Aug 9 18:08:09 2008 From: antoni at clara.net (pssyche23) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 23:08:09 +0100 Subject: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday References: <20080808180914.HM.0000000000007iR@jagargal.bos-mail-wwl12.lycos.com> <4881fb6c0808081512p35608148jf61565e0691b46b8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <008401c8fa6c$68687fb0$0201a8c0@PSSYCHE23> It must have been the sight of THOSE jeans Marc ... ----- Original Message ----- From: Tabazan To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 11:12 PM Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday It was me and Jamie (in a wig) On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 11:09 PM, Javier Garcia wrote: Right, right... they were this two gatherers... lovely couple!... this guy and this gal... damn! can't remember their names... WHO WERE THEY?!?!?!? Jav mexcity ---------[ Received Mail Content ]---------- Subject : Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday Date : Fri, 8 Aug 2008 10:57:55 +0100 From : "Rob Horan" To : "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" yes it's common knowledge..........just remind us tho' ________________________________ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Mik Raven Sent: 08 August 2008 10:26 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday There was another ill fated relationship back in 2003 between two gatherers. Just in case it's not common knowledge I will not mention any names however. ________________________________ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Phillipps Marc Sent: 07 August 2008 13:17 To: saulomar1 at yahoo.com; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday >there's another Gathering couple that also met here Paul & Bev . . . ________________________________ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1 Sent: 06 August 2008 20:32 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday > ..couple is product of The Gathering... The Gathering apparently has that effect. I think there's another Gathering couple that also met here, and this was years before Craigslist ! The Gathering are pioneers! > this lovely M&M couple... So, who's the green one? ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...!' --- On Wed, 8/6/08, Javier Garcia wrote: From: Javier Garcia Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 11:46 AM I've been wondering if this lovely M&M couple is product of The Gathering or did you know each other before/apart from the list? Whatever, huge congratulations!! Jav mx ---------[ Received Mail Content ]---------- Subject : Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday Date : Tue, 5 Aug 2008 23:14:05 +0100 >From : "Mik Raven" To : "'A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)'" > Do we get invos to the wedding? Not even sorted out the engagement party yet! Thanks to all for the congrats. Mik _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of jo Sent: 05 August 2008 13:20 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday Happy birthday Janean and to my new fianc? Milinda. Mik ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Congratulations to you both. Do we get invos to the wedding? _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering This communication may contain information that is confidential and legally privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information within is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please return it to the sender, then delete and destroy any copies of it. The Health Informatics Service disclaims any liability for action taken reliant on the content of this message. This communication is from the Health Informatics Service serving Barnet Enfield & Haringey Health Communities. _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -- www.myspace.com/lycopodeiauk www.lycopodeia.co.uk No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.0/1602 - Release Date: 09/08/2008 13:22 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From antoni at clara.net Sat Aug 9 18:11:39 2008 From: antoni at clara.net (pssyche23) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 23:11:39 +0100 Subject: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC07211C@mr-pants.mshome.net> Message-ID: <009701c8fa6c$e5db8500$0201a8c0@PSSYCHE23> Mik did stay round my flat a few times but we always took precautions ... like sleeping in separate rooms :o) ----- Original Message ----- From: ade To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 3:28 PM Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday Are you the one that made Antoni pregnant? -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Mik Raven Sent: 08 August 2008 10:26 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday There was another ill fated relationship back in 2003 between two gatherers. Just in case it's not common knowledge I will not mention any names however. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Phillipps Marc Sent: 07 August 2008 13:17 To: saulomar1 at yahoo.com; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday >there's another Gathering couple that also met here Paul & Bev . . . ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1 Sent: 06 August 2008 20:32 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday > ..couple is product of The Gathering... The Gathering apparently has that effect. I think there's another Gathering couple that also met here, and this was years before Craigslist! The Gathering are pioneers! > this lovely M&M couple... So, who's the green one? ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...!' --- On Wed, 8/6/08, Javier Garcia wrote: From: Javier Garcia Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 11:46 AM I've been wondering if this lovely M&M couple is product of The Gathering or did you know each other before/apart from the list? Whatever, huge congratulations!! Jav mx ---------[ Received Mail Content ]---------- Subject : Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday Date : Tue, 5 Aug 2008 23:14:05 +0100 From : "Mik Raven" To : "'A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)'" > Do we get invos to the wedding? Not even sorted out the engagement party yet! Thanks to all for the congrats. Mik _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of jo Sent: 05 August 2008 13:20 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday Happy birthday Janean and to my new fianc? Milinda. Mik ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Congratulations to you both. Do we get invos to the wedding? _______________________________________________Gathering mailing listGathering at misera.nethttp://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering This communication may contain information that is confidential and legally privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information within is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please return it to the sender, then delete and destroy any copies of it. The Health Informatics Service disclaims any liability for action taken reliant on the content of this message. This communication is from the Health Informatics Service serving Barnet Enfield & Haringey Health Communities. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.0/1602 - Release Date: 09/08/2008 13:22 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From humanhybrid666 at gmail.com Sat Aug 9 20:28:21 2008 From: humanhybrid666 at gmail.com (bongo) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 12:28:21 +1200 Subject: [kj] OT : First picture from NASA of water on Mars ... In-Reply-To: <000e01c8fa6a$3f3b08d0$0201a8c0@PSSYCHE23> References: <000e01c8fa6a$3f3b08d0$0201a8c0@PSSYCHE23> Message-ID: fuckin' LOL...! ... i was fully expecting something different, and looking fwd to it... have had an image of that big gash on mars as my wallpaper every now and then... strangely curious about mars - in spite of the ramblings of Richard Hoagland etc . . . cheers! =) On 8/10/08, pssyche23 wrote: > Just got back from a week on holiday in Pagham (that's somewhere between > Bognor Regis & Selsey) ... so, hot on the foot of my Jupiter ramblings ... > the first picture from NASA of water on Mars -- absolutely outstanding ! > > * http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/0504/WaterOnMars2_gcc.jpg * > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > -- "due to a lack of trained trumpeters, the end of the world has been postponed indefinitely..." From folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com Sun Aug 10 00:53:28 2008 From: folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com (folk devil) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 21:53:28 -0700 Subject: [kj] OT : First picture from NASA of water on Mars ... In-Reply-To: <000e01c8fa6a$3f3b08d0$0201a8c0@PSSYCHE23> References: <000e01c8fa6a$3f3b08d0$0201a8c0@PSSYCHE23> Message-ID: Was that taken from Felpham or Arundel? ;) > From: antoni at clara.net> To: gathering at misera.net> Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 22:52:40 +0100> Subject: [kj] OT : First picture from NASA of water on Mars ...> > Just got back from a week on holiday in Pagham (that's somewhere between > Bognor Regis & Selsey) ... so, hot on the foot of my Jupiter ramblings ... > the first picture from NASA of water on Mars -- absolutely outstanding !> > * http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/0504/WaterOnMars2_gcc.jpg *> > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________________ Reveal your inner athlete and share it with friends on Windows Live. http://revealyourinnerathlete.windowslive.com?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WLYIA_whichathlete_us -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Keep us posted Mark. Bob -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of meddle Sent: 09 August 2008 06:16 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: [kj] Martin Atkins KJ book An excerpt from the latest Invisible Records e-mail update: Killing Joke Book... Martin has been working on a limited edition series of scrap books from his time in Killing Joke... stay tuned next week for a preview of what's in store!!! Mark _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.6.0/1601 - Release Date: 08/08/2008 09:02 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.6.0/1602 - Release Date: 09/08/2008 13:22 From hollytree1961 at hotmail.com Sun Aug 10 08:37:00 2008 From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com (melinda grant) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 13:37:00 +0100 Subject: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday In-Reply-To: <001e01c8fa6a$8081d990$0201a8c0@PSSYCHE23> References: <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE580B8A@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal><489723F2.4060102@yahoo.co.uk> <006401c8f67b$73fba0e0$4001a8c0@ptgint.com> <001e01c8fa6a$8081d990$0201a8c0@PSSYCHE23> Message-ID: thanks a bunch antoni,one question,why do you think that it came as no suprise ;D? just curious ;0 milinda raven ps less of the old hay ;D)))) lol From: antoni at clara.netTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 22:54:30 +0100Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday Joketastic - Mik and Milinda ... can't say I'm too surprised though, you old lovebirds !!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Mik Raven To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 10:45 PM Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday ? blimey, I only baked 1 cake so you'll have to share! Bloody hell! Too many candles to even get close to! Happy birthday Janean and to my new fianc? Milinda. Mik From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of woody2shoozSent: 04 August 2008 16:45To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday blimey, I only baked 1 cake so you'll have to share!Happy Bothday!Janean Lancaster wrote: Have a good birthday tomorrow, Melinda. I will! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Text inserted by Panda IS 2008: This message has NOT been classified as spam. 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URL: From hollytree1961 at hotmail.com Sun Aug 10 08:37:00 2008 From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com (melinda grant) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 13:37:00 +0100 Subject: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday In-Reply-To: <001e01c8fa6a$8081d990$0201a8c0@PSSYCHE23> References: <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE580B8A@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal><489723F2.4060102@yahoo.co.uk> <006401c8f67b$73fba0e0$4001a8c0@ptgint.com> <001e01c8fa6a$8081d990$0201a8c0@PSSYCHE23> Message-ID: thanks a bunch antoni,one question,why do you think that it came as no suprise ;D? just curious ;0 milinda raven ps less of the old hay ;D)))) lol From: antoni at clara.netTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 22:54:30 +0100Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday Joketastic - Mik and Milinda ... can't say I'm too surprised though, you old lovebirds !!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Mik Raven To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 10:45 PM Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday ? blimey, I only baked 1 cake so you'll have to share! Bloody hell! Too many candles to even get close to! Happy birthday Janean and to my new fianc? Milinda. Mik From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of woody2shoozSent: 04 August 2008 16:45To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday blimey, I only baked 1 cake so you'll have to share!Happy Bothday!Janean Lancaster wrote: Have a good birthday tomorrow, Melinda. I will! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Text inserted by Panda IS 2008: This message has NOT been classified as spam. 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Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.0/1602 - Release Date: 09/08/2008 13:22 _______________________________________________Gathering mailing listGathering at misera.nethttp://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________________ Win New York holidays with Kellogg?s & Live Search http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/107571440/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From saulomar1 at yahoo.com Sun Aug 10 17:48:46 2008 From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com (sade1) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 14:48:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [kj] ot - bernie mac - update, Message-ID: <40173.44219.qm@web52607.mail.re2.yahoo.com> ? man, first george carlin, then harvey korman, now, bernie mac, r.i.p.: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/obit_bernie_mac ? [of "the bernie mac show," "charlie's angels," ?"ocean's 11, 12, and 13," etc... ?not sure how well known he is outside the u.s.] and, as of this morning,?isaac hayes.. ? ? ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current?state of things] 'Save me... ? save me?from Tomorrow.. ?? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...!'? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From circusbar at uol.com.br Mon Aug 11 10:30:51 2008 From: circusbar at uol.com.br (Jokers) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 11:30:51 -0300 Subject: [kj] OT 8 8 88 at 8pm References: <211126.79554.qm@web33002.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00a501c8fbbe$dc034920$0f01010a@jokers> Hi Cliff!!! How doing???? Congratulations to you and Kara!!!! you?re such a nice couple!!!! all the best!!! diaz -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From antoni at clara.net Mon Aug 11 14:34:33 2008 From: antoni at clara.net (pssyche23) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:34:33 +0100 Subject: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday References: <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE580B8A@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal><489723F2.4060102@yahoo.co.uk><006401c8f67b$73fba0e0$4001a8c0@ptgint.com> <001e01c8fa6a$8081d990$0201a8c0@PSSYCHE23> Message-ID: <006901c8fbe0$e70527e0$0201a8c0@PSSYCHE23> No special insight there Mel ... as Jaz says, it's a short life ... just do the things that make you happy ... :o) ----- Original Message ----- From: melinda grant To: gathering at misera.net Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 1:37 PM Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday thanks a bunch antoni,one question,why do you think that it came as no suprise ;D? just curious ;0 milinda raven ps less of the old hay ;D)))) lol ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: antoni at clara.net To: gathering at misera.net Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 22:54:30 +0100 Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday Joketastic - Mik and Milinda ... can't say I'm too surprised though, you old lovebirds !!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Mik Raven To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 10:45 PM Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday ? blimey, I only baked 1 cake so you'll have to share! Bloody hell! Too many candles to even get close to! Happy birthday Janean and to my new fianc? Milinda. Mik ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of woody2shooz Sent: 04 August 2008 16:45 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday blimey, I only baked 1 cake so you'll have to share! Happy Bothday! Janean Lancaster wrote: Have a good birthday tomorrow, Melinda. I will! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Text inserted by Panda IS 2008: This message has NOT been classified as spam. 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URL: From hollytree1961 at hotmail.com Mon Aug 11 15:00:59 2008 From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com (melinda grant) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 20:00:59 +0100 Subject: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday In-Reply-To: <006901c8fbe0$e70527e0$0201a8c0@PSSYCHE23> References: <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE580B8A@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal><489723F2.4060102@yahoo.co.uk><006401c8f67b$73fba0e0$4001a8c0@ptgint.com> <001e01c8fa6a$8081d990$0201a8c0@PSSYCHE23> <006901c8fbe0$e70527e0$0201a8c0@PSSYCHE23> Message-ID: thanks antoni,me and mik have taken your advise on board and we intend to have a very joyious life together ;P From: antoni at clara.netTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:34:33 +0100Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday No special insight there Mel ... as Jaz says, it's a short life ... just do the things that make you happy ... :o) ----- Original Message ----- From: melinda grant To: gathering at misera.net Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 1:37 PM Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday thanks a bunch antoni,one question,why do you think that it came as no suprise ;D?just curious ;0 milinda raven ps less of the old hay ;D)))) lol From: antoni at clara.netTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 22:54:30 +0100Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday Joketastic - Mik and Milinda ... can't say I'm too surprised though, you old lovebirds !!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Mik Raven To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 10:45 PM Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday ? blimey, I only baked 1 cake so you'll have to share! Bloody hell! Too many candles to even get close to! Happy birthday Janean and to my new fianc? Milinda. Mik From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of woody2shoozSent: 04 August 2008 16:45To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday blimey, I only baked 1 cake so you'll have to share!Happy Bothday!Janean Lancaster wrote: Have a good birthday tomorrow, Melinda. I will! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Text inserted by Panda IS 2008: This message has NOT been classified as spam. 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URL: From folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com Mon Aug 11 16:55:25 2008 From: folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com (folk devil) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 13:55:25 -0700 Subject: [kj] ot - bernie mac In-Reply-To: <586751.72136.qm@web52604.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <586751.72136.qm@web52604.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: was bernie a scientologist, like isaac? Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 02:11:36 -0700From: saulomar1 at yahoo.comTo: gathering at misera.netSubject: [kj] ot - bernie mac man, first george, then harvey korman, now, bernie mac, r.i.p.: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/obit_bernie_mac [of "the bernie mac show," "Charlie's Angels," "ocean's 11, 12, and 13," etc... not sure how well known he is outside the u.s.] ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...!' _________________________________________________________________ Reveal your inner athlete and share it with friends on Windows Live. http://revealyourinnerathlete.windowslive.com?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WLYIA_whichathlete_us -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jpwhkj at aol.com Mon Aug 11 19:17:23 2008 From: jpwhkj at aol.com (jpwhkj at aol.com) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:17:23 -0400 Subject: [kj] OT 8 8 88 at 8pm In-Reply-To: <33356.72.42.164.101.1218232443.squirrel@mymail.acsalaska.net> References: <5AD3143C248D1646A097487465F7702390D350@fountain6344ex2.corp.ad> <33356.72.42.164.101.1218232443.squirrel@mymail.acsalaska.net> Message-ID: <8CACA1F8B9496BA-14DC-3265@webmail-nf10.sim.aol.com> Blimey. Congrats Cliff and Kara as well. What the fuck is going on? -----Original Message----- From: cliffmonka at alaska.net To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 22:54 Subject: [kj] OT 8 8 88 at 8pm 8 8 1988 at 8pm EST Cliff & Kara were married. Today celebrated our 20th,still alive and have not killed each other yet,haha.Jus sharing this with ya,had a blast of a ceremony 20 yrs ago,8 horses, fire crazy costumes,and reception Guiness on tap 4 bands played lunar bear ensamble with Martin Atkins on the drums,and WilliamTucker in attendance yelling like a drunken madman with the rest of us. Tonight i dj a party for people with disabilities,and we all howl.Cliff _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ________________________________________________________________________ AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jpwhkj at aol.com Mon Aug 11 19:19:33 2008 From: jpwhkj at aol.com (jpwhkj at aol.com) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:19:33 -0400 Subject: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday In-Reply-To: <008401c8fa6c$68687fb0$0201a8c0@PSSYCHE23> References: <20080808180914.HM.0000000000007iR@jagargal.bos-mail-wwl12.lycos.com> <4881fb6c0808081512p35608148jf61565e0691b46b8@mail.gmail.com> <008401c8fa6c$68687fb0$0201a8c0@PSSYCHE23> Message-ID: <8CACA1FD8E6BB8C-14DC-327E@webmail-nf10.sim.aol.com> I'm hoping he means the other Jamie! -----Original Message----- From: pssyche23 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 23:08 Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday It must have been the sight of THOSE jeans Marc ... ?? ----- Original Message ----- From: Tabazan To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 11:12 PM Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday It was me and Jamie (in a wig) On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 11:09 PM, Javier Garcia wrote: Right, right... they were this two gatherers... lovely couple!... this guy and this gal... damn! can't remember their names... WHO WERE THEY?!?!?!? Jav mexcity ---------[ Received Mail Content ]---------- Subject : Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday Date : Fri, 8 Aug 2008 10:57:55 +0100 >From : "Rob Horan" To : "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" yes it's common knowledge..........just remind us tho' ________________________________ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Mik Raven Sent: 08 August 2008 10:26 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday There was another ill fated relationship back in 2003 between two gatherers. Just in case it's n ot common knowledge I will not mention any names however. ________________________________ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Phillipps Marc Sent: 07 August 2008 13:17 To: saulomar1 at yahoo.com; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday >there's another Gathering couple that also met here Paul & Bev . . . ________________________________ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1 Sent: 06 August 2008 20:32 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday > ..couple is product of The Gathering... The Gathering apparently has that effect. I think there's another Gathering couple that also met here, and this was years before Craigslist ! The Gathering are pioneers! > this lovely M&M couple... So, who's the green one? ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...!' --- On Wed, 8/6/08, Javier Garcia wrote: From: Javier Garcia Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 0A Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 11:46 AM I've been wondering if this lovely M&M couple is product of The Gathering or did you know each other before/apart from the list? Whatever, huge congratulations!! Jav mx ---------[ Received Mail Content ]---------- Subject : Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday Date : Tue, 5 Aug 2008 23:14:05 +0100 >From : "Mik Raven" To : "'A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)'" > Do we get invos to the wedding? Not even sorted out the engagement party yet! Thanks to all for the congrats. Mik _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of jo Sent: 05 August 2008 13:20 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Joint Birthday Happy birthday Janean and to my new fianc? Milinda. Mik ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Congratulations to you both. Do we get invos to the wedding? _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering 0A This communication may contain information that is confidential and legally privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information within is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please return it to the sender, then delete and destroy any copies of it. The Health Informatics Service disclaims any liability for action taken reliant on the content of this message. 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I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...!'?? --- On Mon, 8/11/08, folk devil wrote: From: folk devil Subject: Re: [kj] ot - bernie mac To: gathering at misera.net Date: Monday, August 11, 2008, 1:55 PM #yiv1567966631 .hmmessage P { margin:0px;padding:0px;} #yiv1567966631 { FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma;} was bernie a scientologist, like isaac? ? ? Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 02:11:36 -0700 From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com To: gathering at misera.net Subject: [kj] ot - bernie mac man, first george, then harvey korman, now, bernie mac, r.i.p.: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/obit_bernie_mac ? [of "the bernie mac show," "Charlie's Angels," ?"ocean's 11, 12, and 13," etc... ?not sure how well known he is outside the u.s.] ? ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk Tue Aug 12 05:20:22 2008 From: Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk (Phillipps Marc) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 10:20:22 +0100 Subject: [kj] Tickets . . . Message-ID: Anyone had them yet? Marc. This communication may contain information that is confidential and legally privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information within is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please return it to the sender, then delete and destroy any copies of it. The Health Informatics Service disclaims any liability for action taken reliant on the content of this message. This communication is from the Health Informatics Service serving Barnet Enfield & Haringey Health Communities. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From danielcorvo at hotmail.co.uk Tue Aug 12 06:11:47 2008 From: danielcorvo at hotmail.co.uk (Daniel Corvo) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 10:11:47 +0000 Subject: [kj] Tickets . . . In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Nope, still waiting... Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 10:20:22 +0100From: Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.ukTo: gathering at misera.netSubject: [kj] Tickets . . . Anyone had them yet? Marc. This communication may contain information that is confidential and legally privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information within is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please return it to the sender, then delete and destroy any copies of it. The Health Informatics Service disclaims any liability for action taken reliant on the content of this message. This communication is from the Health Informatics Service serving Barnet Enfield & Haringey Health Communities. _________________________________________________________________ Win a voice over part with Kung Fu Panda & Live Search?? and?? 100?s of Kung Fu Panda prizes to win with Live Search http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/107571439/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From LONESTYLE at aol.com Tue Aug 12 08:53:34 2008 From: LONESTYLE at aol.com (LONESTYLE at aol.com) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 08:53:34 EDT Subject: [kj] Tickets . . . Message-ID: Nope, we have not gotten ours in L.A. yet. Live Nation said they are supposed to send them soon. But I am going to call them again for that was in June. Swines! ~LB In a message dated 8/12/2008 2:21:32 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk writes: Anyone had them yet? Marc. **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 ) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wessidetempest at hotmail.com Tue Aug 12 09:17:13 2008 From: wessidetempest at hotmail.com (Christof hamille) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 09:17:13 -0400 Subject: [kj] Tickets . . . In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'm fairly sure I got mine for NYC quite a while ago From: LONESTYLE at aol.com Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 08:53:34 -0400 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Tickets . . . Nope, we have not gotten ours in L.A. yet. Live Nation said they are supposed to send them soon. But I am going to call them again for that was in June. Swines! ~LB In a message dated 8/12/2008 2:21:32 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk writes: Anyone had them yet? Marc. Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? 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Nope, still waiting... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 10:20:22 +0100 From: Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk To: gathering at misera.net Subject: [kj] Tickets . . . Anyone had them yet? Marc. This communication may contain information that is confidential and legally privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information within is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please return it to the sender, then delete and destroy any copies of it. The Health Informatics Service disclaims any liability for action taken reliant on the content of this message. 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Message-ID: <473927.61632.qm@web57309.mail.re1.yahoo.com> I have mine in hand for Paris and NY and have for quite a while ----- Original Message ---- From: Phillipps Marc To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 4:20:22 AM Subject: [kj] Tickets . . . Anyone had them yet? Marc. This communication may contain information that is confidential and legally privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information within is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please return it to the sender, then delete and destroy any copies of it. The Health Informatics Service disclaims any liability for action taken reliant on the content of this message. This communication is from the Health Informatics Service serving Barnet Enfield & Haringey Health Communities. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk Tue Aug 12 12:39:07 2008 From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk (Change) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:39:07 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] OT : First picture from NASA of water on Mars ... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <106269.2900.qm@web23202.mail.ird.yahoo.com> There are Pyramids on Mars! I saw it on telly in the seventies with the only Dr Who worth bothering with... Oh yeah and the face of ELVIS!!!!!!! --- On Sun, 10/8/08, bongo wrote: > From: bongo > Subject: Re: [kj] OT : First picture from NASA of water on Mars ... > To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" > Date: Sunday, 10 August, 2008, 1:28 AM > fuckin' LOL...! > > ... i was fully expecting something different, and looking > fwd to > it... have had an image of that big gash on mars as my > wallpaper every > now and then... strangely curious about mars - in spite of > the > ramblings of Richard Hoagland etc . . . > > cheers! > > > =) > > > > > > On 8/10/08, pssyche23 wrote: > > Just got back from a week on holiday in Pagham > (that's somewhere between > > Bognor Regis & Selsey) ... so, hot on the foot of > my Jupiter ramblings ... > > the first picture from NASA of water on Mars -- > absolutely outstanding ! > > > > * > http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/0504/WaterOnMars2_gcc.jpg * > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Gathering mailing list > > Gathering at misera.net > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > > -- > > > "due to a lack of trained trumpeters, the end of the > world has been > postponed indefinitely..." > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk Tue Aug 12 12:48:45 2008 From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk (Change) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:48:45 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] [OT] Peaches vs. Cheeches In-Reply-To: <8816C3E8-39EF-4310-858F-FAA103544665@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <547668.84940.qm@web23204.mail.ird.yahoo.com> It might have appeared on several different singles but I recall it from a 12" EP with "Tearing Me Apart" as the lead track. I think it also had a Suicide cover. Still can't find it but my record collectiuon is in a state of chaos... --- On Thu, 7/8/08, Alexander Smith wrote: > From: Alexander Smith > Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Peaches vs. Cheeches > To: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk, "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" > Date: Thursday, 7 August, 2008, 12:24 PM > Rollins covered "Earache My Eye" (also covered by > Soundgarden). Not > sure, but it might have been on the live e.p. that followed > HARD VOLUME. > > Alex in NYC > > > > On Aug 7, 2008, at 6:09 AM, Change wrote: > > > I have builders in moving my bathroom to another > location and > > yesterday we were all singing along to "The Very > Best of the > > Stranglers" which I found in Wolverhampton PDSA > for ?1 on the day > > the Buttholes nearly destroyed the Wulfrun PA. > > > > Anyway one of the builders said he thought > "Peaches" had been in a > > Cheech and Chong film which reminded me that Rollins > Band covered a > > c&C song but I can't find my copy of that > Rollins EP... anyone > > remember the song? > > > > --- On Thu, 31/7/08, ade > wrote: > > > >> From: ade > >> Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine to reform? > >> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke > (the band!)" >> > > >> Date: Thursday, 31 July, 2008, 9:23 PM > >>> I mean, Cheech & Chong have also reunited > now, > >> apparently! > >> > >> More good news! > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > Not happy with your email address?. > > Get the one you really want - millions of new email > addresses > > available now at Yahoo! > http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html > > _______________________________________________ > > Gathering mailing list > > Gathering at misera.net > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk Tue Aug 12 12:53:20 2008 From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk (Change) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:53:20 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] OT Nick Cave In-Reply-To: <211126.79554.qm@web33002.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <105408.88758.qm@web23204.mail.ird.yahoo.com> NICK CAVE & THE BAD SEEDS Announce November UK Tour 5.1 Re-mastered Collector?s Editions of Classic Albums MOJO Honours List Best Album Of 2008, DIG, LAZARUS, DIG!!! One of the most exciting rock n? roll acts performing anywhere ? News of The World An absolutely awesome set which covers damn near every classic you could hope for ? The Independent on Sunday Following their critically acclaimed, sold-out ?DIG, LAZARUS, DIG!!!? tour of May 2008, Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds have announced six additional UK dates for November. Tickets go on sale 15th August and are available from the 24 Hour Credit Card Hot Line 0871 2200 260 or www.gigsandtours.com. The band will be playing shows in Sheffield and Brighton (Nick Cave?s adopted hometown) for the first time ever. Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds first four albums are being re-issued in a series that will see the band?s entire album catalogue digitally re-mastered and remixed in 5.1 surround sound. From Her To Eternity, The First Born Is Dead, Kicking Against The Pricks and Your Funeral, My Trial are set to be released at the end of the year. Each deluxe double disc collector?s edition will contain the re-mastered stereo album, the new surround mix, a specially commissioned short film made by UK artists Iain Forsyth and Jane Pollard, plus b-sides from the original singles and exclusive sleeve notes. UK November Tour Dates: 23rd Brighton, Centre ?32.00 Box Office 0844 847 151525th Manchester, Apollo ?32.00 Box Office 08444 777 67726th Edinburgh, Corn Exchange ?32.00 www.ticketmaster.co.uk27th Sheffield, Academy ?32.00 Box Office 0844 477 200029th London, Troxy ?34.00 Box Office 020 7734 893230th London, Troxy ?34.00 Box Office 020 7403 3331 Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk Tue Aug 12 12:54:48 2008 From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk (Change) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:54:48 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] OT 8 8 88 at 8pm In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <36857.89246.qm@web23204.mail.ird.yahoo.com> --- On Sat, 9/8/08, melinda grant wrote: > From: melinda grant > Subject: Re: [kj] OT 8 8 88 at 8pm > To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" > Date: Saturday, 9 August, 2008, 12:33 AM > what an achievement,thats phantastic cliff,well done and i > hope me and mik can say the same about us in 20 yrs ;D > Fat Chance! The World Ends in December 2012. the plans have been on display in Alpha Centauri for a while now... Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk Tue Aug 12 12:59:12 2008 From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk (Change) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:59:12 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] OT NOT RIGHT In-Reply-To: <22753.220.245.178.132.1217385282.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz> Message-ID: <127778.93212.qm@web23204.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Stooges stuff stolen !! >From Mike Watt on the Myspace bulletin board: (some haul this lot !) - -------------------------------------------- if anyone has information, ANY INFORMATION! please, please, PLEASE as soon as possible contact Eric Fischer at: nycentral13 at gmail.com cell phone: +1 646 932 1907 PLEASE FORWARD AS FAR AND WIDE AND AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE!!! IGGY AND THE STOOGES EQUIPMENT STOLEN ON AUGUST 4, 2008 OUTSIDE THE EMBASSY SUITES HOTEL 208 SAINT ANTOINE OUEST, MONTREAL, QUEBEC, CANADA all equipment was in a rented penske 15 foot yellow truck with u.s. (michigan) license plate number AC46493 parked immediately outside the hotel, the theft had to have happened in the morning, between 6:30 and 7:30 am - truck and all gear stolen there's a web page at: http://www. hootpage. com/stoogesstolenstuff/stoogesstolenstuff. html that will soon have pictures and updates to more stuff found missing Item Country of Origin Serial Number Red roadcase containing: Red Gibson 1963 EB-3 bass (this is mike watt's bass!) USA No serial number Black roadcase containing: Reverend Flying V guitar - Volcano black USA #08001 Black roadcase containing: Reverend Orange guitar USA 03416 ZSL7 Black fibre case containg: Gibson red SG short scale bass USA No serial number Black roadcase containing: Marshall Vintage/Modern Amplifier UK M-2007-07-0926-2 RoHS Black roadcase containing: Marshall Vintage/Modern Amplifier UK M-2007-07-0927-2 RoHS 4x Marshall 4x12 Cabinets (with Tuki cover) UK #1 Slant: M-2007-05-0149-0 4x Marshall 4x12 Cabinets (with Tuki cover) UK #2 Straight: M-2006-49-0380-0 4x Marshall 4x12 Cabinets (with Tuki cover) UK #3 Slant: M-2007-05-0150-0 4x Marshall 4x12 Cabinets (with Tuki cover) UK #4 Straight: M-2006-49-0381-0 Orange Calzone road case containing: Guitar pedal board and pedals USA/Japan No serial number Assorted leads USA/UK No serial number 2x mic stands Germany No serial number Assorted strings and spares USA No serial number plus: 2x Boss TU2 Chromatic Tuner Boss CH1 Super Chorus Fulltone OCD Overdrive Crybaby Wah Peterson Strobo-Stomp Tuner Pedal Whirlwind A/B Boxes Whirlwind Cable Tester and many many istrument cables various tools ( screwdrivers, soldering iron, pliers, etc... ) tambourine and maracas Cardboard box containing: Assorted replacement drum heads USA No serial number Gretsch Silver Sparkle Catalina drum kit USA No serial number 26" Kick Drum No serial number 13" Rack Tom No serial number 18" Floor Tom No serial number 4x Cymbal Stands No serial number 1x Snare Stand No serial number 1x Hi Hat Stand No serial number 1x Drum Throne No serial number Eden D810 Bass cabinet USA D810RP4 0703E5001 Eden D810 Bass cabinet USA D810RP4 0703E5002 Cardboard box containg: Eden VT300 Bass amplifier USA 0601E5115 Cardboard box containg: Eden VT300 Bass amplifier USA 0507E5033 Floor Fan CHINA No serial number Floor Fan CHINA No serial number Green clamshell suitcase containing: Yamaha snare drum JAPAN No serial number Yahama kick pedal JAPAN No serial number Zildjian Mega Bell cymbal USA No serial number Zildjian 15" Hi-Hats USA No serial number 3x Zildjian 18" 19" 20" crash medium cymbals USA No serial number Brown Epiphone guitar case: Black Epiphone EB3 short scale bass KOREA F300503 PLEASE FORWARD AS FAR AND WIDE AND AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE!!! if anyone has information, ANY INFORMATION! please, please, PLEASE as soon as possible contact Eric Fischer at: nycentral13 at gmail.com cell phone: +1 646 932 1907 Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From karen.weil at sddt.com Tue Aug 12 13:14:25 2008 From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 10:14:25 -0700 Subject: [kj] OT Nick Cave References: <105408.88758.qm@web23204.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi. I'm going to see him in San Diego in September. Really cannot wait! Thanks for the info. k.w. The States ----- Original Message ----- From: "Change" To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 9:53 AM Subject: [kj] OT Nick Cave > NICK CAVE & THE BAD SEEDS Announce November UK Tour 5.1 Re-mastered > Collector?s Editions of Classic Albums MOJO Honours List Best Album Of > 2008, DIG, LAZARUS, DIG!!! One of the most exciting rock n? roll acts > performing anywhere ? News of The World An absolutely awesome set which > covers damn near every classic you could hope for ? The Independent on > Sunday Following their critically acclaimed, sold-out ?DIG, LAZARUS, > DIG!!!? tour of May 2008, Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds have announced six > additional UK dates for November. Tickets go on sale 15th August and are > available from the 24 Hour Credit Card Hot Line 0871 2200 260 or > www.gigsandtours.com. The band will be playing shows in Sheffield and > Brighton (Nick Cave?s adopted hometown) for the first time ever. Nick Cave > & The Bad Seeds first four albums are being re-issued in a series that > will see the band?s entire album catalogue digitally re-mastered and > remixed in 5.1 surround sound. From > Her To Eternity, The First Born Is Dead, Kicking Against The Pricks and > Your Funeral, My Trial are set to be released at the end of the year. > Each deluxe double disc collector?s edition will contain the re-mastered > stereo album, the new surround mix, a specially commissioned short film > made by UK artists Iain Forsyth and Jane Pollard, plus b-sides from the > original singles and exclusive sleeve notes. UK November Tour Dates: 23rd > Brighton, Centre ?32.00 Box Office 0844 847 151525th Manchester, Apollo > ?32.00 Box Office 08444 777 67726th Edinburgh, Corn Exchange ?32.00 > www.ticketmaster.co.uk27th Sheffield, Academy ?32.00 Box Office 0844 477 > 200029th London, Troxy ?34.00 Box Office 020 7734 893230th London, Troxy > ?34.00 Box Office 020 7403 3331 > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From antoni at clara.net Tue Aug 12 13:19:06 2008 From: antoni at clara.net (pssyche23) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 18:19:06 +0100 Subject: [kj] OT : First picture from NASA of water on Mars ... Elvis spotted References: <106269.2900.qm@web23202.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001301c8fc9f$8747ac00$0201a8c0@PSSYCHE23> Speaking of Elvis, went past the Famous 3 Kings (aka F3K) pub by West Kensington tube station yesterday (it's the one with about 20 TV screens, often packed with football fans and showing 6 to 8 different matches) whilst sitting on a 28 bus with Dawn & the kids (we'd just been to the Chelsea FC fun day), saw the pub sign and decided to take a snap as I was curious to work out who the famous 3 kings were ... zoomed in on the middle one a bit ... ha ha ha ... he's probably a regular or works in the chip shop across the road ... :o) * http://home.clara.net/antoni/F3K.JPG * ----- Original Message ----- From: "Change" To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 5:39 PM Subject: Re: [kj] OT : First picture from NASA of water on Mars ... > There are Pyramids on Mars! > I saw it on telly in the seventies with the only Dr Who worth bothering > with... > > Oh yeah and the face of ELVIS!!!!!!! > > --- On Sun, 10/8/08, bongo wrote: > >> From: bongo >> Subject: Re: [kj] OT : First picture from NASA of water on Mars ... >> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" >> >> Date: Sunday, 10 August, 2008, 1:28 AM >> fuckin' LOL...! >> >> ... i was fully expecting something different, and looking >> fwd to >> it... have had an image of that big gash on mars as my >> wallpaper every >> now and then... strangely curious about mars - in spite of >> the >> ramblings of Richard Hoagland etc . . . >> >> cheers! >> >> >> =) >> >> >> >> >> >> On 8/10/08, pssyche23 wrote: >> > Just got back from a week on holiday in Pagham >> (that's somewhere between >> > Bognor Regis & Selsey) ... so, hot on the foot of >> my Jupiter ramblings ... >> > the first picture from NASA of water on Mars -- >> absolutely outstanding ! >> > >> > * >> http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/0504/WaterOnMars2_gcc.jpg * >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Gathering mailing list >> > Gathering at misera.net >> > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >> > >> >> >> -- >> >> >> "due to a lack of trained trumpeters, the end of the >> world has been >> postponed indefinitely..." >> _______________________________________________ >> Gathering mailing list >> Gathering at misera.net >> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.1/1605 - Release Date: 11/08/2008 > 16:59 > > > From vassifer at earthlink.net Tue Aug 12 14:58:32 2008 From: vassifer at earthlink.net (Alex Smith) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 14:58:32 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [kj] [OT] Peaches vs. Cheeches Message-ID: <9310741.1218567512758.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Yeah, I recall a Rollins Band cover of Suicide's "Ghost Rider" as well. Must search. Alex in NYC -----Original Message----- >From: Change >Sent: Aug 12, 2008 12:48 PM >To: gathering at misera.net >Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Peaches vs. Cheeches > >It might have appeared on several different singles but I recall it from a 12" EP with "Tearing Me Apart" as the lead track. I think it also had a Suicide cover. Still can't find it but my record collectiuon is in a state of chaos... > >--- On Thu, 7/8/08, Alexander Smith wrote: > >> From: Alexander Smith >> Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Peaches vs. Cheeches >> To: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk, "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" >> Date: Thursday, 7 August, 2008, 12:24 PM >> Rollins covered "Earache My Eye" (also covered by >> Soundgarden). Not >> sure, but it might have been on the live e.p. that followed >> HARD VOLUME. >> >> Alex in NYC >> >> >> >> On Aug 7, 2008, at 6:09 AM, Change wrote: >> >> > I have builders in moving my bathroom to another >> location and >> > yesterday we were all singing along to "The Very >> Best of the >> > Stranglers" which I found in Wolverhampton PDSA >> for ?1 on the day >> > the Buttholes nearly destroyed the Wulfrun PA. >> > >> > Anyway one of the builders said he thought >> "Peaches" had been in a >> > Cheech and Chong film which reminded me that Rollins >> Band covered a >> > c&C song but I can't find my copy of that >> Rollins EP... anyone >> > remember the song? >> > >> > --- On Thu, 31/7/08, ade >> wrote: >> > >> >> From: ade >> >> Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine to reform? >> >> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke >> (the band!)" > >> > >> >> Date: Thursday, 31 July, 2008, 9:23 PM >> >>> I mean, Cheech & Chong have also reunited >> now, >> >> apparently! >> >> >> >> More good news! >> > >> > >> > >> > >> __________________________________________________________ >> > Not happy with your email address?. >> > Get the one you really want - millions of new email >> addresses >> > available now at Yahoo! >> http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Gathering mailing list >> > Gathering at misera.net >> > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > >Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering at misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From daxford at rogers.com Tue Aug 12 15:07:46 2008 From: daxford at rogers.com (Dave Axford) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:07:46 -0400 Subject: [kj] [OT] Peaches vs. Cheeches References: <9310741.1218567512758.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <00b501c8fcae$b542c4a0$d5fae263@dave> > > Yeah, I recall a Rollins Band cover of Suicide's "Ghost Rider" as well. > Must search. On "Hot Animal Machine" isn't it? Cover art by Devo's Mark Mothersbough if memory serves me. From bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net Tue Aug 12 16:11:41 2008 From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net (B. Oliver Sheppard) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:11:41 -0500 Subject: [kj] OT : First picture from NASA of water on Mars ... Elvis spotted In-Reply-To: <001301c8fc9f$8747ac00$0201a8c0@PSSYCHE23> References: <106269.2900.qm@web23202.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <001301c8fc9f$8747ac00$0201a8c0@PSSYCHE23> Message-ID: <48A1EE7D.10400@sbcglobal.net> Mattell also recently announced an Elvis & Priscilla Presley Barbie doll set. Features them in wedding outfits, the outcome of his dating her since she was 14 years old. Ah, southern love! http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=Mtl9632 Says the doll set will be out Sept. 2008, $75. -Oliver pssyche23 wrote: > Speaking of Elvis, went past the Famous 3 Kings (aka F3K) pub by West > Kensington tube station yesterday (it's the one with about 20 TV > screens, often packed with football fans and showing 6 to 8 different > matches) whilst sitting on a 28 bus with Dawn & the kids (we'd just > been to the Chelsea FC fun day), saw the pub sign and decided to take > a snap as I was curious to work out who the famous 3 kings were ... > zoomed in on the middle one a bit ... ha ha ha ... he's probably a > regular or works in the chip shop across the road ... :o) > > * http://home.clara.net/antoni/F3K.JPG * > From cliffmonka at alaska.net Tue Aug 12 22:26:07 2008 From: cliffmonka at alaska.net (cliffmonka at alaska.net) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 18:26:07 -0800 (AKDT) Subject: [kj] Tickets . . . In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <33712.72.42.164.101.1218594367.squirrel@mymail.acsalaska.net> we printed our tickets for both NYC shows months ago. > > I'm fairly sure I got mine for NYC quite a while ago > > From: LONESTYLE at aol.com > Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 08:53:34 -0400 > To: gathering at misera.net > Subject: Re: [kj] Tickets . . . > > > > > > > > > > Nope, we have not gotten ours in L.A. yet. > > Live Nation said they are supposed to send them soon. But I am going to > call them again for that was in June. Swines! > > ~LB > > In a message dated 8/12/2008 2:21:32 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk writes: > > > Anyone had them > yet? > > > > Marc. > > > > > Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? 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Paul Raven http://paulraven-rip.blogspot.com/2008/02/treponem-pal-new-album-march.html Amazon.co.uk: Weird Machine: Treponem Pal: Music http://www.amazon.co.uk/Weird-Machine-Treponem-Pal/dp/B00133FOMM/ http://www.amazon.com/Weird-Machine-Treponem-Pal/dp/B00133FOMM/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bawhitehead at gmail.com Wed Aug 13 02:14:05 2008 From: bawhitehead at gmail.com (Brian Whitehead) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 07:14:05 +0100 Subject: [kj] Tickets . . . In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7454a99b0808122314k1d3fe9ffwf9c9dd8d13c5c13@mail.gmail.com> I'm still after some tickets for the London shows (got one off Milinda) so if the ticket agency send you one too many by accident you know who to call. Brian. 2008/8/12 Phillipps Marc > > > Anyone had them yet? > > > > > > > > Marc. > > This communication may contain information that is confidential and legally > privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). 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In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48A294D8.4010501@yahoo.co.uk> not had mine yet (seetickets) I like Cliff's idea of print your own. Can you print some for me too? Happy anniversary by the way, 20 years, well done Kara haha!!! Phillipps Marc wrote: > > > > Anyone had them yet? > > > > > > > > Marc. > > > This communication may contain information that is confidential and > legally privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended > recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), please note > that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or > the information within is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If > you have received this communication in error, please return it to the > sender, then delete and destroy any copies of it. The Health > Informatics Service disclaims any liability for action taken reliant > on the content of this message. 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Message-ID: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC072127@mr-pants.the-lab.local> I've not recieved them either. I *might* have a spare seated ticket for the Pandemonium night... -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Brian Whitehead Sent: 13 August 2008 07:14 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Tickets . . . I'm still after some tickets for the London shows (got one off Milinda) so if the ticket agency send you one too many by accident you know who to call. Brian. 2008/8/12 Phillipps Marc < Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk> Anyone had them yet? Marc. This communication may contain information that is confidential and legally privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). 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URL: From hollytree1961 at hotmail.com Wed Aug 13 15:29:14 2008 From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com (melinda grant) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 20:29:14 +0100 Subject: [kj] ot b.whitehead joke tix ;) on way ok In-Reply-To: <7454a99b0808122306o5fc80cf3t4e6db5772fdad068@mail.gmail.com> References: <7454a99b0808122306o5fc80cf3t4e6db5772fdad068@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: looks like xmas bunny has come early for you ;D your sat tix is in the post,so keep an eye out ;) cheers milinda grant raven ps thanks for the kind wishes,and yes,i quite fancy polo ;D))))))) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 07:06:10 +0100From: bawhitehead at gmail.comTo: hollytree1961 at hotmail.comSubject: Re: [kj] ot b.whitehead joke tix ;) Hi Milinda,First of all massive congratulations to you an Mr Mik on your engagement.Sounds very posh that "milinda grant raven", you;ll be playing polo next :-)Oh, and its better Grant-Raven than Raven-Grant.I'd be grateful if you could send me the ticket.My address is...5 Arundel CloseBuryLancsBL8 1YBIf you need I'll sort some dosh sorting out via cheque/paypal or whatever just let me know.All the best,Brian. 2008/8/11 melinda grant hi there brian, your tix for the sat forum gig is still safe ok,just been a bit bizzy last week what with my birthday and mine and mik ravens engagement ;D))) so send me your address and the tix will be on its way to you ok--we can settle up on the night if you like--or in the pub b.4 hand--thats fine with me,if thats ok for you ;) milinda raven grant ;P or milinda grant raven! 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URL: From cliffmonka at alaska.net Thu Aug 14 05:03:34 2008 From: cliffmonka at alaska.net (cliffmonka at alaska.net) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 01:03:34 -0800 (AKDT) Subject: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder In-Reply-To: <48A294D8.4010501@yahoo.co.uk> References: <48A294D8.4010501@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: <33022.72.42.164.101.1218704614.squirrel@mymail.acsalaska.net> Statement of Support and Solidarity We, as organizations and self-advocates representing members of the disability community, recognize the dignity of individuals with intellectual disabilities, the challenges they and their families face, and the meaningful and powerful contributions they make to their families, their communities, and their country, Acknowledge that individuals with intellectual disabilities have been subject to discrimination, abuse, and exclusion from society throughout history; Recognize that the more than 200 million individuals with intellectual disabilities worldwide, and more than 6 million individuals with intellectual disabilities in the US, have suffered severe consequences including: institutionalization, physical, sexual, and emotional abuse, denial of education, employment, and healthcare, segregation, and targeted hate crimes; Acknowledge that ?attitudes and expectations of the public, in part, determine the degree to which children, adolescents and adults with intellectual disabilities are able to learn, work and live alongside their peers without disabilities.? (President?s Committee for People with Intellectual Disabilities, 2004); Understand that for over four decades, the media has consistently mischaracterized people with intellectual disabilities; (Pardun, 2005) Realize that over 80% of U.S. adults surveyed feel that media portrayals are an obstacle to the acceptance and inclusion of people with intellectual disabilities. (Pardun, 2005) Recognize that many people, including those with intellectual disabilities, their families and friends, consider the ?R-word? just as offensive as the ?N-word;? and Declare that under the guise of ?parody,? whether intentional or not, Tropic Thunder demeans, insults, and harms individuals with intellectual disabilities by using the ?R- word.? Furthermore, it perpetuates derogatory images and stereotypes of individuals with intellectual disabilities including mocking their physical appearance and speech, supports the continuation of inappropriate myths and misperceptions, and legitimizes painful discrimination, exclusion, and bullying; Together, we declare our intention to make the public aware of the need to create and foster inclusion of individuals with intellectual disabilities as a matter of social justice by: ? Boycotting the film and explaining to our nation?s children why the film is harmful; ? Educating the public, especially young people, about intellectual disabilities through far-reaching awareness campaigns to ban the use of the ?R-word,? and other initiatives to permanently change attitudes and promote inclusion; ? Calling on Hollywood studios, writers and executives to pledge to make this the final chapter in a sullied history of demeaning portrayals of individuals with intellectual disabilities and assist in public education campaigns; ? Requesting that Congress investigate and conduct oversight of how Hollywood portrays individuals with intellectual disabilities and the effect these portrayals have on our nation and around the world. From a.tolksdorf at yahoo.co.uk Thu Aug 14 06:03:18 2008 From: a.tolksdorf at yahoo.co.uk (Alexandra Tolksdorf) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 10:03:18 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder In-Reply-To: <33022.72.42.164.101.1218704614.squirrel@mymail.acsalaska.net> Message-ID: <507470.41081.qm@web27803.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> nice one, Cliff, will forward! ~Alexandra. --- On Thu, 14/8/08, cliffmonka at alaska.net wrote: From: cliffmonka at alaska.net Subject: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" Date: Thursday, 14 August, 2008, 10:03 AM Statement of Support and Solidarity We, as organizations and self-advocates representing members of the disability community, recognize the dignity of individuals with intellectual disabilities, the challenges they and their families face, and the meaningful and powerful contributions they make to their families, their communities, and their country, Acknowledge that individuals with intellectual disabilities have been subject to discrimination, abuse, and exclusion from society throughout history; Recognize that the more than 200 million individuals with intellectual disabilities worldwide, and more than 6 million individuals with intellectual disabilities in the US, have suffered severe consequences including: institutionalization, physical, sexual, and emotional abuse, denial of education, employment, and healthcare, segregation, and targeted hate crimes; Acknowledge that ?attitudes and expectations of the public, in part, determine the degree to which children, adolescents and adults with intellectual disabilities are able to learn, work and live alongside their peers without disabilities.? (President?s Committee for People with Intellectual Disabilities, 2004); Understand that for over four decades, the media has consistently mischaracterized people with intellectual disabilities; (Pardun, 2005) Realize that over 80% of U.S. adults surveyed feel that media portrayals are an obstacle to the acceptance and inclusion of people with intellectual disabilities. (Pardun, 2005) Recognize that many people, including those with intellectual disabilities, their families and friends, consider the ?R-word? just as offensive as the ?N-word;? and Declare that under the guise of ?parody,? whether intentional or not, Tropic Thunder demeans, insults, and harms individuals with intellectual disabilities by using the ?R- word.? Furthermore, it perpetuates derogatory images and stereotypes of individuals with intellectual disabilities including mocking their physical appearance and speech, supports the continuation of inappropriate myths and misperceptions, and legitimizes painful discrimination, exclusion, and bullying; Together, we declare our intention to make the public aware of the need to create and foster inclusion of individuals with intellectual disabilities as a matter of social justice by: ? Boycotting the film and explaining to our nation?s children why the film is harmful; ? Educating the public, especially young people, about intellectual disabilities through far-reaching awareness campaigns to ban the use of the ?R-word,? and other initiatives to permanently change attitudes and promote inclusion; ? Calling on Hollywood studios, writers and executives to pledge to make this the final chapter in a sullied history of demeaning portrayals of individuals with intellectual disabilities and assist in public education campaigns; ? Requesting that Congress investigate and conduct oversight of how Hollywood portrays individuals with intellectual disabilities and the effect these portrayals have on our nation and around the world. _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jagargal at lycos.com Thu Aug 14 11:13:12 2008 From: jagargal at lycos.com (Javier Garcia) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 11:13:12 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [kj] Tickets . . . (KJ @ NYC here i go!!!) Message-ID: <20080814111312.HM.0000000000007jW@jagargal.bos-mail-wwl12.lycos.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From elana_mojica at yahoo.com Thu Aug 14 11:14:12 2008 From: elana_mojica at yahoo.com (Elana Mojica) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 08:14:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [kj] Tickets . . . (KJ @ NYC here i go!!!) Message-ID: <419506.56363.qm@web57311.mail.re1.yahoo.com> wooo see you there Javier!! ----- Original Message ---- From: Javier Garcia To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 10:13:12 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Tickets . . . (KJ @ NYC here i go!!!) Same here, imho the print yourself option is the best choice if you're buying tickets online. By the way, i got my visa (yaaahooooooaaaaaaaa!!!!). See you guys in october for the NYC gigs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Javier way too excited in Mexico city ---------[ Received Mail Content ]---------- Subject : Re: [kj] Tickets . . . Date : Tue, 12 Aug 2008 18:26:07 -0800 (AKDT) >From : cliffmonka at alaska.net To : "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)" we printed our tickets for both NYC shows months ago. > > I'm fairly sure I got mine for NYC quite a while ago > > From: LONESTYLE at aol.com > Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 08:53:34 -0400 > To: gathering at misera.net > Subject: Re: [kj] Tickets . . . > > > > > > > > > > Nope, we have not gotten ours in L.A. yet. > > Live Nation said they are supposed to send them soon. But I am going to > call them again for that was in June. Swines! > > ~LB > > In a message dated 8/12/2008 2:21:32 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk writes: > > > Anyone had them > yet? > > > > Marc. > > > > > Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL > Autos. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Your PC, mobile phone, and online services work together like never before. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/108587394/direct/01/_______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jagargal at lycos.com Thu Aug 14 11:41:44 2008 From: jagargal at lycos.com (Javier Garcia) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 11:41:44 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder Message-ID: <20080814114145.HM.0000000000007jZ@jagargal.bos-mail-wwl12.lycos.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com Thu Aug 14 11:54:05 2008 From: folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com (folk devil) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 08:54:05 -0700 Subject: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder In-Reply-To: <20080814114145.HM.0000000000007jZ@jagargal.bos-mail-wwl12.lycos.com> References: <20080814114145.HM.0000000000007jZ@jagargal.bos-mail-wwl12.lycos.com> Message-ID: retarded and nigger. " From: jagargal at lycos.comTo: a.tolksdorf at yahoo.co.uk; gathering at misera.netDate: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 11:41:44 -0400Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic ThunderSorry, but i don't know what the "R" nor the "N" words mean... anyone could enlighten me? (I'm just guessing, but the "R" may be for "retarded"?) Javier mxcty _________________________________________________________________ Reveal your inner athlete and share it with friends on Windows Live. http://revealyourinnerathlete.windowslive.com?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WLYIA_whichathlete_us -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cliffmonka at alaska.net Thu Aug 14 12:04:41 2008 From: cliffmonka at alaska.net (cliffmonka at alaska.net) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 08:04:41 -0800 (AKDT) Subject: [kj] Tickets . . . (KJ @ NYC here i go!!!) In-Reply-To: <20080814111312.HM.0000000000007jW@jagargal.bos-mail-wwl12.lycos.com> References: <20080814111312.HM.0000000000007jW@jagargal.bos-mail-wwl12.lycos.com> Message-ID: <33296.72.42.164.101.1218729881.squirrel@mymail.acsalaska.net> Haha Javier that rocks,see ya there,Cliff & Kara > Same here, imho the print yourself option is the best choice if you're buying > tickets online. >
>
By the way, i got my visa (yaaahooooooaaaaaaaa!!!!). >
>
See you guys in october for the NYC gigs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >
>
Javier >
way too excited in Mexico city >
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To : "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)" > <gathering at misera.net>
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>
we printed our tickets for both NYC shows months ago. >

>

>

> >

> I'm fairly sure I got mine for NYC quite a while ago >

> >

> From: LONESTYLE at aol.com >

> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 08:53:34 -0400 >

> To: gathering at misera.net >

> Subject: Re: [kj] Tickets . . . >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> Nope, we have not gotten ours in L.A. yet. >

> >

> Live Nation said they are supposed to send them soon. But I am going to >

> call them again for that was in June. Swines! >

> >

> ~LB >

> >

> In a message dated 8/12/2008 2:21:32 AM Pacific Daylight Time, >

> Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk writes: >

> >

> >

> Anyone had them >

> yet? >

> >

> >

> >

> Marc. >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read > reviews on AOL >

> Autos. >

> >

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> _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From cliffmonka at alaska.net Thu Aug 14 12:07:48 2008 From: cliffmonka at alaska.net (cliffmonka at alaska.net) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 08:07:48 -0800 (AKDT) Subject: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder In-Reply-To: <20080814114145.HM.0000000000007jZ@jagargal.bos-mail-wwl12.lycos.com> References: <20080814114145.HM.0000000000007jZ@jagargal.bos-mail-wwl12.lycos.com> Message-ID: <33188.72.42.164.101.1218730068.squirrel@mymail.acsalaska.net> Javier you are correct. People i care for are really hurt by the people who use this word.Peace,Cliff > Sorry, but i don't know what the "R" nor the "N" words mean... anyone could > enlighten me? >
>
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>
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mxcty >
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To : "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)" > <gathering at misera.net>
>

>
nice one, Cliff, will forward! >

>

~Alexandra. >

>

--- On Thu, 14/8/08, cliffmonka at alaska.net wrote: >

>

From: cliffmonka at alaska.net >

Subject: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder >

To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" > >

Date: Thursday, 14 August, 2008, 10:03 AM >

>

>

Statement of Support and Solidarity >

>

>

>

We, as organizations and self-advocates representing members of the > disability >

community, recognize the dignity of individuals with intellectual > disabilities, >

the >

challenges they and their families face, and the meaningful and powerful >

contributions they make to their families, their communities, and their >

country, >

>

Acknowledge that individuals with intellectual disabilities have been > subject >

to >

discrimination, abuse, and exclusion from society throughout history; >

>

Recognize that the more than 200 million individuals with intellectual >

disabilities >

worldwide, and more than 6 million individuals with intellectual > disabilities >

in >

the US, have suffered severe consequences including: institutionalization, >

physical, sexual, and emotional abuse, denial of education, employment, and >

healthcare, segregation, and targeted hate crimes; >

>

Acknowledge that ???attitudes and expectations of the public, in part, >

determine the >

degree to which children, adolescents and adults with intellectual > disabilities >

are >

able to learn, work and live alongside their peers without disabilities.??? >

(President???s Committee for People with Intellectual Disabilities, 2004); >

>

Understand that for over four decades, the media has consistently >

mischaracterized >

people with intellectual disabilities; (Pardun, 2005) >

>

Realize that over 80% of U.S. adults surveyed feel that media portrayals > are an >

obstacle to the acceptance and inclusion of people with intellectual >

disabilities. >

(Pardun, 2005) >

>

Recognize that many people, including those with intellectual disabilities, >

their >

families and friends, consider the ???R-word??? just as offensive as the >

???N-word;??? and >

>

Declare that under the guise of ???parody,??? whether intentional or not, >

Tropic >

Thunder demeans, insults, and harms individuals with intellectual > disabilities >

by >

using the ???R- word.??? Furthermore, it perpetuates derogatory images and >

stereotypes >

of individuals with intellectual disabilities including mocking their > physical >

appearance and speech, supports the continuation of inappropriate myths and >

misperceptions, and legitimizes painful discrimination, exclusion, and >

bullying; >

>

>

>

Together, we declare our intention to make the public aware of the need to >

create >

and foster inclusion of individuals with intellectual disabilities as a > matter >

of >

social justice by: >

>

??? Boycotting the film and explaining to our nation???s children why the > film >

is harmful; >

>

??? Educating the public, especially young people, about intellectual >

disabilities >

through far-reaching awareness campaigns to ban the use of the > ???R-word,??? >

and other >

initiatives to permanently change attitudes and promote inclusion; >

>

??? Calling on Hollywood studios, writers and executives to pledge to make > this >

the >

final chapter in a sullied history of demeaning portrayals of individuals > with >

intellectual disabilities and assist in public education campaigns; >

>

??? Requesting that Congress investigate and conduct oversight of how > Hollywood >

portrays individuals with intellectual disabilities and the effect these >

portrayals >

have on our nation and around the world. >

>

>

>

>

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> _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk Thu Aug 14 12:10:48 2008 From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk (ade) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 17:10:48 +0100 Subject: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder Message-ID: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC072135@mr-pants.the-lab.local> Fuckin hell folky, there's no need for that sort've language on here! lol ;) -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: 14 August 2008 16:54 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder retarded and nigger. " _____ From: jagargal at lycos.com To: a.tolksdorf at yahoo.co.uk; gathering at misera.net Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 11:41:44 -0400 Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder Sorry, but i don't know what the "R" nor the "N" words mean... anyone could enlighten me? (I'm just guessing, but the "R" may be for "retarded"?) Javier mxcty _____ Reveal your inner athlete and share it with friends on Windows Live. Share now! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com Thu Aug 14 12:16:42 2008 From: folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com (folk devil) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 09:16:42 -0700 Subject: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder In-Reply-To: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC072135@mr-pants.the-lab.local> References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC072135@mr-pants.the-lab.local> Message-ID: Oops sorry. And then there were none. ;) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 17:10:48 +0100From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.ukTo: gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder Fuckin hell folky, there's no need for that sort've language on here! lol ;) -----Original Message-----From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of folk devilSent: 14 August 2008 16:54To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunderretarded and nigger." From: jagargal at lycos.comTo: a.tolksdorf at yahoo.co.uk; gathering at misera.netDate: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 11:41:44 -0400Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic ThunderSorry, but i don't know what the "R" nor the "N" words mean... anyone could enlighten me? (I'm just guessing, but the "R" may be for "retarded"?) Javier mxcty Reveal your inner athlete and share it with friends on Windows Live. Share now! _________________________________________________________________ Your PC, mobile phone, and online services work together like never before. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/108587394/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hollytree1961 at hotmail.com Thu Aug 14 13:29:56 2008 From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com (melinda grant) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 18:29:56 +0100 Subject: [kj] Tickets . . . (KJ @ NYC here i go!!!) In-Reply-To: <33296.72.42.164.101.1218729881.squirrel@mymail.acsalaska.net> References: <20080814111312.HM.0000000000007jW@jagargal.bos-mail-wwl12.lycos.com> <33296.72.42.164.101.1218729881.squirrel@mymail.acsalaska.net> Message-ID: great news jav and cliff,me and mik have ours as well---there in safe hands ;) so we will see you there as well,plus alex n.y.c ;)> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 08:04:41 -0800> From: cliffmonka at alaska.net> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re: [kj] Tickets . . . (KJ @ NYC here i go!!!)> > Haha Javier that rocks,see ya there,Cliff & Kara> > > > Same here, imho the print yourself option is the best choice if you're buying> > tickets online.> >
> >
By the way, i got my visa (yaaahooooooaaaaaaaa!!!!).> >
> >
See you guys in october for the NYC gigs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!> >
> >
Javier> >
way too excited in Mexico city> >
> >
> >





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> >
From : cliffmonka at alaska.net
> >
To : "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)"> > <gathering at misera.net>
> >

> >
we printed our tickets for both NYC shows months ago.> >

> >

> >

>> >

> I'm fairly sure I got mine for NYC quite a while ago> >

>> >

> From: LONESTYLE at aol.com> >

> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 08:53:34 -0400> >

> To: gathering at misera.net> >

> Subject: Re: [kj] Tickets . . .> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

> Nope, we have not gotten ours in L.A. yet.> >

>> >

> Live Nation said they are supposed to send them soon. But I am going to> >

> call them again for that was in June. Swines!> >

>> >

> ~LB> >

>> >

> In a message dated 8/12/2008 2:21:32 AM Pacific Daylight Time,> >

> Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk writes:> >

>> >

>> >

> Anyone had them> >

> yet?> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

> Marc.> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

> Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read> > reviews on AOL> >

> Autos.> >

>> >

> _________________________________________________________________> >

> Your PC, mobile phone, and online services work together like never> > before.> >

>> > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/108587394/direct/01/_______________________________________________> >

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> >
By the way, i got my visa (yaaahooooooaaaaaaaa!!!!).> >
> >
See you guys in october for the NYC gigs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!> >
> >
Javier> >
way too excited in Mexico city> >
> >
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From : cliffmonka at alaska.net
> >
To : "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)"> > <gathering at misera.net>
> >

> >
we printed our tickets for both NYC shows months ago.> >

> >

> >

>> >

> I'm fairly sure I got mine for NYC quite a while ago> >

>> >

> From: LONESTYLE at aol.com> >

> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 08:53:34 -0400> >

> To: gathering at misera.net> >

> Subject: Re: [kj] Tickets . . .> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

> Nope, we have not gotten ours in L.A. yet.> >

>> >

> Live Nation said they are supposed to send them soon. But I am going to> >

> call them again for that was in June. Swines!> >

>> >

> ~LB> >

>> >

> In a message dated 8/12/2008 2:21:32 AM Pacific Daylight Time,> >

> Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk writes:> >

>> >

>> >

> Anyone had them> >

> yet?> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

> Marc.> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

> Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read> > reviews on AOL> >

> Autos.> >

>> >

> _________________________________________________________________> >

> Your PC, mobile phone, and online services work together like never> > before.> >

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> >
By the way, i got my visa (yaaahooooooaaaaaaaa!!!!). > >
> >
See you guys in october for the NYC gigs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > >
> >
Javier > >
way too excited in Mexico city > >
> >
> >





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we printed our tickets for both NYC shows months ago. > >

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> I'm fairly sure I got mine for NYC quite a while ago > >

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> From: LONESTYLE at aol.com > >

> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 08:53:34 -0400 > >

> To: gathering at misera.net > >

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> call them again for that was in June. Swines! > >

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> ~LB > >

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> In a message dated 8/12/2008 2:21:32 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > >

> Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk writes: > >

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> Anyone had them > >

> yet? > >

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> Marc. > >

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Bet you made a beautiful bride! : ) Cheers, k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: melinda grant To: gathering at misera.net Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 2:27 PM Subject: [kj] ring-ring ;D it wasnt a joke so it wasnt all hot air thankfully mik raven followed through ;D a pic of the engagement ring that mik raven brought me,and presented to me this afternoon on 8.8.08 a very lucky day some say ;) milinda raven ps i wont bore you any more with this ok ;p ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get Hotmail on your mobile from Vodafone Try it Now! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Bet you made a beautiful bride! : ) Cheers, k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: melinda grant To: gathering at misera.net Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 2:27 PM Subject: [kj] ring-ring ;D it wasnt a joke so it wasnt all hot air thankfully mik raven followed through ;D a pic of the engagement ring that mik raven brought me,and presented to me this afternoon on 8.8.08 a very lucky day some say ;) milinda raven ps i wont bore you any more with this ok ;p _____ Get Hotmail on your mobile from Vodafone Try it Now! _____ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Date: Thursday, August 14, 2008, 2:03 AM Statement of Support and Solidarity We, as organizations and self-advocates representing members of the disability community, recognize the dignity of individuals with intellectual disabilities, the challenges they and their families face, and the meaningful and powerful contributions they make to their families, their communities, and their country, Acknowledge that individuals with intellectual disabilities have been subject to discrimination, abuse, and exclusion from society throughout history; Recognize that the more than 200 million individuals with intellectual disabilities worldwide, and more than 6 million individuals with intellectual disabilities in the US, have suffered severe consequences including: institutionalization, physical, sexual, and emotional abuse, denial of education, employment, and healthcare, segregation, and targeted hate crimes; Acknowledge that ?attitudes and expectations of the public, in part, determine the degree to which children, adolescents and adults with intellectual disabilities are able to learn, work and live alongside their peers without disabilities.? (President?s Committee for People with Intellectual Disabilities, 2004); Understand that for over four decades, the media has consistently mischaracterized people with intellectual disabilities; (Pardun, 2005) Realize that over 80% of U.S. adults surveyed feel that media portrayals are an obstacle to the acceptance and inclusion of people with intellectual disabilities. (Pardun, 2005) Recognize that many people, including those with intellectual disabilities, their families and friends, consider the ?R-word? just as offensive as the ?N-word;? and Declare that under the guise of ?parody,? whether intentional or not, Tropic Thunder demeans, insults, and harms individuals with intellectual disabilities by using the ?R- word.? Furthermore, it perpetuates derogatory images and stereotypes of individuals with intellectual disabilities including mocking their physical appearance and speech, supports the continuation of inappropriate myths and misperceptions, and legitimizes painful discrimination, exclusion, and bullying; Together, we declare our intention to make the public aware of the need to create and foster inclusion of individuals with intellectual disabilities as a matter of social justice by: ? Boycotting the film and explaining to our nation?s children why the film is harmful; ? Educating the public, especially young people, about intellectual disabilities through far-reaching awareness campaigns to ban the use of the ?R-word,? and other initiatives to permanently change attitudes and promote inclusion; ? Calling on Hollywood studios, writers and executives to pledge to make this the final chapter in a sullied history of demeaning portrayals of individuals with intellectual disabilities and assist in public education campaigns; ? Requesting that Congress investigate and conduct oversight of how Hollywood portrays individuals with intellectual disabilities and the effect these portrayals have on our nation and around the world. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...!' _________________________________________________________________ Your PC, mobile phone, and online services work together like never before. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/108587394/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net Thu Aug 14 18:47:31 2008 From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net (B. Oliver Sheppard) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 17:47:31 -0500 Subject: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder In-Reply-To: References: <33022.72.42.164.101.1218704614.squirrel@mymail.acsalaska.net> <694329.50875.qm@web52608.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <48A4B603.5040509@sbcglobal.net> It's received mostly good reviews: http://www.metacritic.com/film/titles/tropicthunder That's a great website, btw. -Oliver folk devil wrote: > not sure i really want to....too many 'war' films...and a haha to bang > bang doesn't really work for me at the mo.. > > /"/ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:42:20 -0700 > From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com > To: gathering at misera.net > Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder > > Anyone seen the movie yet? > > > > ... ... ... ... ... ... > > /*[looking at the current state of things]*/ > > 'Save me... > save me from Tomorrow.. > I don't want to /sail //in this Ship Of Fools...!' / > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Your PC, mobile phone, and online services work together like never > before. See how Windows? fits your life > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From angrytomhanks at yahoo.com Thu Aug 14 22:08:47 2008 From: angrytomhanks at yahoo.com (Leigh Newton) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 19:08:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder Message-ID: <576640.58206.qm@web65712.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> I'm kind of looking forward to checking it out. I like that it falls into a very exclusive and rare sub-sub-sub genre of movies which involve people in situations which they believe to be fabricated when they are, in fact......very real. See also: the Three Amigos and The Man Who Knew Too Little. Leigh http://www.nightruiner.com http://www.myspace.com/thesunthroughatelescope http://www.myspace.com/lauderdale ----- Original Message ---- From: B. Oliver Sheppard To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 6:47:31 PM Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder It's received mostly good reviews: http://www.metacritic.com/film/titles/tropicthunder That's a great website, btw. -Oliver folk devil wrote: > not sure i really want to....too many 'war' films...and a haha to bang > bang doesn't really work for me at the mo.. > > /"/ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:42:20 -0700 > From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com > To: gathering at misera.net > Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder > > Anyone seen the movie yet? > > > > ... ... ... ... ... ... > > /*[looking at the current state of things]*/ > > 'Save me... > save me from Tomorrow.. > I don't want to /sail //in this Ship Of Fools...!' / > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Your PC, mobile phone, and online services work together like never > before. See how Windows? fits your life > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From cliffmonka at alaska.net Thu Aug 14 22:17:02 2008 From: cliffmonka at alaska.net (cliffmonka at alaska.net) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 18:17:02 -0800 (AKDT) Subject: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder In-Reply-To: <48A4B603.5040509@sbcglobal.net> References: <33022.72.42.164.101.1218704614.squirrel@mymail.acsalaska.net> <694329.50875.qm@web52608.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <48A4B603.5040509@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <32988.72.42.164.101.1218766622.squirrel@mymail.acsalaska.net> Terrific article by Tim Shriver... *What 'Tropic Thunder' Thinks Is Funny* By Timothy Shriver Monday, August 11, 2008; A15 I've been told = to keep my sense of humor about the film "Tropic Thunder," which opens = this week. Despite my requests, I have not been given the chance to see = the movie. But I've seen previews, read about it and read excerpts = of the script. By all accounts, it is an unchecked assault on the = humanity of people with intellectual disabilities -- an affront to = dignity, hope and respect. Consider this exchange: Ben = Stiller's character: "There were times when I was doing Jack when = I actually felt retarded. Like really retarded." Robert Downey = Jr.'s character: "Oh yeah. Damn." Stiller: "In a weird way, I had = to sort of just free myself up to believe that it was okay to be stupid = or dumb." Downey: "To be a moron." Stiller: "Yeah." At= another point, about acting like a person with intellectual disabilities,<= BR>they say: Stiller: "It's what we do, right?" Downey: = "Everybody knows you never do a full retard." Stiller: "What do you = mean?" Downey: "Check it out. Dustin Hoffman, 'Rain Man,' look = retarded, act retarded, not retarded. Count toothpicks to your cards. = Autistic, sure. Not retarded. You know Tom Hanks, 'Forrest Gump.' Slow, = yes. Retarded, maybe. Braces on his legs. But he charmed the pants off = Nixon and won a ping-pong competition. That ain't retarded. You went = full retard, man. Never go full retard." I worked with the = Farrelly brothers on a film on this topic. I know about edgy comedy. = I'm also told that movies are equal-opportunity offenders. So = here's an equal-opportunity response to the equal-opportunity offenders: People with intellectual disabilities are routinely abused, neglected,= insulted, institutionalized and even killed around the world. Their = parents are told to give up, that their children are worthless. Schools = turn them away. Doctors refuse to treat them. Employers won't hire = them. None of this is funny. For centuries, they have been the = exception to the most basic spiritual principle: that we are each equal = in spirit, capable of reflecting the goodness of the divine, carriers = of love. But not people with intellectual disabilities. What's a word = commonly applied to them? Hopeless. Let's consider where we are in = 2008. Our politics are about overcoming division, our social movements = are about ending intolerance, our great philanthropists promote ending = poverty and disease among the world's poor. Are people with intellectual= disabilities included in the mainstream of these movements? For the = most part, no. Why? Because they're different. Their joy doesn't = fit on magazine covers. Their spirituality doesn't come in self-help = television. Their kind of wealth doesn't command political attention. = (The best of the spirit never does.) Sadly, they're such an easy = target that many people don't realize whom they are making fun of when = they use the word "retard." Most people just think it's funny. "Stupid, = idiot, moron, retard." Ha, ha, ha. I know: I could be too sensitive.= But I was taught that mean isn't funny. And I've been to institutions = where people with intellectual disabilities are tied to beds or lie on = concrete floors, forgotten. I've heard doctors say they won't treat = them. I know Gallup found that more than 60 percent of Americans don't = want a person with an intellectual disability at their child's = school. I've talked to people with intellectual disabilities who = cry over being insulted on a bus. I've received too many e-mails from = people who are devastated not by their child's disability but by the = terror of being laughed at, excluded and economically devastated. It wasn't funny when Hollywood humiliated African Americans for a gener= ation. It's never funny when good and decent human beings are humiliated= . In fact, it is dangerous and disgusting. This film is all that = and more. DreamWorks went so far as to create a mini-version of Simple = Jack and posted it online. The studio has since pulled it down, = realizing it had gone too far, even in an age of edgy, R-rated = comedies. So, enough. Stop the hurtful jokes. Talk to your children = about language that is bullying and mean. Ask your friends, your = educators, your religious leaders to help us to end the stubborn myth = that people with intellectual disabilities are hopeless. Ask Hollywood = to get on the right side of dignity. I hope others will join me = in shutting this movie out of our lives and our pocketbooks. We don't = live in times when labeling and humiliating others is funny. And we = should send that message far and wide. *The writer is chairman of = Special Olympics and a columnist for washingtonpost.com's On Faith = discussion site.* > It's received mostly good reviews: > > http://www.metacritic.com/film/titles/tropicthunder > > That's a great website, btw. > > -Oliver > > > folk devil wrote: >> not sure i really want to....too many 'war' films...and a haha to bang >> bang doesn't really work for me at the mo.. >> >> /"/ >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:42:20 -0700 >> From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com >> To: gathering at misera.net >> Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder >> >> Anyone seen the movie yet? >> >> >> >> ... ... ... ... ... ... >> >> /*[looking at the current state of things]*/ >> >> 'Save me... >> save me from Tomorrow.. >> I don't want to /sail //in this Ship Of Fools...!' / >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Your PC, mobile phone, and online services work together like never >> before. See how Windows? fits your life >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gathering mailing list >> Gathering at misera.net >> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >> > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net Thu Aug 14 22:31:03 2008 From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net (B. Oliver Sheppard) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 21:31:03 -0500 Subject: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder In-Reply-To: <576640.58206.qm@web65712.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <576640.58206.qm@web65712.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <48A4EA67.9040400@sbcglobal.net> Robert Downey, Jr., who utters the objectionable word in the movie ("retard") has even been mentioned as Academy Award material for this. (In Tropic Thunder he plays a famous Australian actor who undergoes radical cosmetic surgery to make himself into a US black man, and changes his manner of speaking, etc., to make himself seem truly black, unnerving his African-American co-stars). This plus Downey, Jr.'s performance in Iron Man may make this his year... I am not sure how objectionable to find the movie yet, but from the previews and reviews I have to admit it seems pretty funny, and I am curious to see it. Anything that sends up the hackneyed conventions of US war movies automatically makes me wanna see it. "Don't you die on me, son!!" "I can't feel my legs, sarge!" and all that. -Oliver Leigh Newton wrote: > I'm kind of looking forward to checking it out. I like that it falls into a very exclusive and rare sub-sub-sub genre of movies which involve people in situations which they believe to be fabricated when they are, in fact......very real. See also: the Three Amigos and The Man Who Knew Too Little. > > Leigh > > > From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Fri Aug 15 01:29:39 2008 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 17:29:39 +1200 (NZST) Subject: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder In-Reply-To: <48A4EA67.9040400@sbcglobal.net> References: <576640.58206.qm@web65712.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <48A4EA67.9040400@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <1246.124.170.218.248.1218778179.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz> I've scratched my head (figuratively) every time I've seen the previews for it, the only funny thing I've noticed about it is the apparently unintentional resemblance Jack Black bears to Brian Dennehy. (I reckon Dennehy needs to be sent up the way Shatner, Hasslehoff, and Norris have. And Busey. Imagine having Dennehy for a Dad...you'd be fucked.) Other than that I just don't get the joke, and comedies are generally my favourite movies. If what they have shown on the shorts are the pick of the bunch...hrm. I tend to agree with the comments about the offensive portrayal of intellectually disabled people. PS: Talking about offensive comedy, was pleased to see George Carlin discussed in glowing terms during an interview on Letterman last night...and even more pleased to hear how many albums he has done, I only have a few. > Robert Downey, Jr., who utters the objectionable word in the movie > ("retard") has even been mentioned as Academy Award material for this. > (In Tropic Thunder he plays a famous Australian actor who undergoes > radical cosmetic surgery to make himself into a US black man, and > changes his manner of speaking, etc., to make himself seem truly black, > unnerving his African-American co-stars). This plus Downey, Jr.'s > performance in Iron Man may make this his year... > > I am not sure how objectionable to find the movie yet, but from the > previews and reviews I have to admit it seems pretty funny, and I am > curious to see it. Anything that sends up the hackneyed conventions of > US war movies automatically makes me wanna see it. "Don't you die on me, > son!!" "I can't feel my legs, sarge!" and all that. > > -Oliver > > > Leigh Newton wrote: >> I'm kind of looking forward to checking it out. I like that it falls >> into a very exclusive and rare sub-sub-sub genre of movies which involve >> people in situations which they believe to be fabricated when they are, >> in fact......very real. See also: the Three Amigos and The Man Who Knew >> Too Little. >> >> Leigh >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Fri Aug 15 01:32:41 2008 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 17:32:41 +1200 (NZST) Subject: [kj] Tickets . . . (KJ @ NYC here i go!!!) In-Reply-To: <33296.72.42.164.101.1218729881.squirrel@mymail.acsalaska.net> References: <20080814111312.HM.0000000000007jW@jagargal.bos-mail-wwl12.lycos.com> <33296.72.42.164.101.1218729881.squirrel@mymail.acsalaska.net> Message-ID: <1247.124.170.218.248.1218778361.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz> I'm still trying to get to one of the gigs but hope is fading fast...anyone in the market for a second hand liver? Hold on, which is the one you have two of...is that kidneys? Guaranteed to last until Dec 2012, that's all you'll need it for anyways... > Haha Javier that rocks,see ya there,Cliff & Kara > > >> Same here, imho the print yourself option is the best choice if you're >> buying >> tickets online. >>
>>
By the way, i got my visa (yaaahooooooaaaaaaaa!!!!). >>
>>
See you guys in october for the NYC gigs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >>
>>
Javier >>
way too excited in Mexico city >>
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we printed our tickets for both NYC shows months ago. >>

>>

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> >>

> I'm fairly sure I got mine for NYC quite a while ago >>

> >>

> From: LONESTYLE at aol.com >>

> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 08:53:34 -0400 >>

> To: gathering at misera.net >>

> Subject: Re: [kj] Tickets . . . >>

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> Nope, we have not gotten ours in L.A. yet. >>

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> Live Nation said they are supposed to send them soon. But I am >> going to >>

> call them again for that was in June. Swines! >>

> >>

> ~LB >>

> >>

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> Marc. >>

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>> _______________________________________________ >> Gathering mailing list >> Gathering at misera.net >> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk Fri Aug 15 04:23:35 2008 From: Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk (Phillipps Marc) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 09:23:35 +0100 Subject: [kj] Tickets . . . (KJ @ NYC here i go!!!) References: <20080814111312.HM.0000000000007jW@jagargal.bos-mail-wwl12.lycos.com><33296.72.42.164.101.1218729881.squirrel@mymail.acsalaska.net> <1247.124.170.218.248.1218778361.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz> Message-ID: >which is the one you have two of...is that kidneys? Lungs . . . I could do with a spare ?50? -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Brendan Sent: 15 August 2008 06:33 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Tickets . . . (KJ @ NYC here i go!!!) I'm still trying to get to one of the gigs but hope is fading fast...anyone in the market for a second hand liver? Hold on, which is the one you have two of...is that kidneys? Guaranteed to last until Dec 2012, that's all you'll need it for anyways... > Haha Javier that rocks,see ya there,Cliff & Kara > > >> Same here, imho the print yourself option is the best choice if you're >> buying >> tickets online. >>
>>
By the way, i got my visa (yaaahooooooaaaaaaaa!!!!). >>
>>
See you guys in october for the NYC gigs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >>
>>
Javier >>
way too excited in Mexico city >>
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To : "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the >> band!\)" >> <gathering at misera.net>
>>

>>
we printed our tickets for both NYC shows months ago. >>

>>

>>

> >>

> I'm fairly sure I got mine for NYC quite a while ago >>

> >>

> From: LONESTYLE at aol.com >>

> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 08:53:34 -0400 >>

> To: gathering at misera.net >>

> Subject: Re: [kj] Tickets . . . >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> Nope, we have not gotten ours in L.A. yet. >>

> >>

> Live Nation said they are supposed to send them soon. But I am >> going to >>

> call them again for that was in June. Swines! >>

> >>

> ~LB >>

> >>

> In a message dated 8/12/2008 2:21:32 AM Pacific Daylight Time, >>

> Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk writes: >>

> >>

> >>

> Anyone had them >>

> yet? >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> Marc. >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? >> Read >> reviews on AOL >>

> Autos. >>

> >>

> >> _________________________________________________________________ >>

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>> _______________________________________________ >> Gathering mailing list >> Gathering at misera.net >> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering This communication may contain information that is confidential and legally privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information within is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please return it to the sender, then delete and destroy any copies of it. The Health Informatics Service disclaims any liability for action taken reliant on the content of this message. This communication is from the Health Informatics Service serving Barnet Enfield & Haringey Health Communities. From powens at gmail.com Fri Aug 15 05:32:17 2008 From: powens at gmail.com (powens) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 10:32:17 +0100 Subject: [kj] Tickets . . . (KJ @ NYC here i go!!!) In-Reply-To: References: <20080814111312.HM.0000000000007jW@jagargal.bos-mail-wwl12.lycos.com> <33296.72.42.164.101.1218729881.squirrel@mymail.acsalaska.net> <1247.124.170.218.248.1218778361.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz> Message-ID: Marc when you die you should donate your lungs to medical science-fiction. 2008/8/15 Phillipps Marc > >which is the one you have two of...is that kidneys? > > Lungs . . . I could do with a spare > > ?50? > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] > On Behalf Of Brendan > Sent: 15 August 2008 06:33 > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) > Subject: Re: [kj] Tickets . . . (KJ @ NYC here i go!!!) > > I'm still trying to get to one of the gigs but hope is fading > fast...anyone in the market for a second hand liver? Hold on, which is the > one you have two of...is that kidneys? > > Guaranteed to last until Dec 2012, that's all you'll need it for anyways... > > > Haha Javier that rocks,see ya there,Cliff & Kara > > > > > >> Same here, imho the print yourself option is the best choice if you're > >> buying > >> tickets online. > >>
> >>
By the way, i got my visa (yaaahooooooaaaaaaaa!!!!). > >>
> >>
See you guys in october for the NYC gigs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > >>
> >>
Javier > >>
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> >>
we printed our tickets for both NYC shows months ago. > >>

> >>

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> > >>

> I'm fairly sure I got mine for NYC quite a while ago > >>

> > >>

> From: LONESTYLE at aol.com > >>

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> To: gathering at misera.net > >>

> Subject: Re: [kj] Tickets . . . > >>

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> Nope, we have not gotten ours in L.A. yet. > >>

> > >>

> Live Nation said they are supposed to send them soon. But I am > >> going to > >>

> call them again for that was in June. Swines! > >>

> > >>

> ~LB > >>

> > >>

> In a message dated 8/12/2008 2:21:32 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > >>

> Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk writes: > >>

> > >>

> > >>

> Anyone had them > >>

> yet? > >>

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>

> Marc. > >>

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>

> Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? > >> Read > >> reviews on AOL > >>

> Autos. > >>

> > >>

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>>
By the way, i got my visa (yaaahooooooaaaaaaaa!!!!). >>
>>
See you guys in october for the NYC gigs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >>
>>
Javier >>
way too excited in Mexico city >>
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>>

>>
we printed our tickets for both NYC shows months ago. >>

>>

>>

> >>

> I'm fairly sure I got mine for NYC quite a while ago >>

> >>

> From: LONESTYLE at aol.com >>

> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 08:53:34 -0400 >>

> To: gathering at misera.net >>

> Subject: Re: [kj] Tickets . . . >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> Nope, we have not gotten ours in L.A. yet. >>

> >>

> Live Nation said they are supposed to send them soon. But I am >> going to >>

> call them again for that was in June. Swines! >>

> >>

> ~LB >>

> >>

> In a message dated 8/12/2008 2:21:32 AM Pacific Daylight Time, >>

> Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk writes: >>

> >>

> >>

> Anyone had them >>

> yet? >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> Marc. >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? >> Read >> reviews on AOL >>

> Autos. >>

> >>

> >> _________________________________________________________________ >>

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This communication is from the Health Informatics Service serving Barnet Enfield & Haringey Health Communities. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net Fri Aug 15 13:35:41 2008 From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net (B. Oliver Sheppard) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 12:35:41 -0500 Subject: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder In-Reply-To: <1246.124.170.218.248.1218778179.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz> References: <576640.58206.qm@web65712.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <48A4EA67.9040400@sbcglobal.net> <1246.124.170.218.248.1218778179.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz> Message-ID: <48A5BE6D.4040407@sbcglobal.net> Trailers are the worst way to judge movies. The Simpsons Movie trailer, for example, had the least funny bits. I haven't see Tropic Thunder, but the metacritic.com review aggregator, which links to reviews from Roger Ebert, the New York Times, the LA Times -- all of which give it good reviews -- is a good place to see what's what. Of course, any of these outlets also gave 40 Year Old Virgin good reviews, and I hated that film. There have been so many horrible comedies lately that I'm just eager for a good one. I don't like fun made at the expense of the disabled, but I also recall a huge boycott from protesters in the disability activist community over Clint Eastwood's _Million Dollar Baby_, and I went on to see that, and thought it was a fine film. -Oliver Brendan wrote: > I've scratched my head (figuratively) every time I've seen the previews > for it, the only funny thing I've noticed about it is the apparently > unintentional resemblance Jack Black bears to Brian Dennehy. (I reckon > Dennehy needs to be sent up the way Shatner, Hasslehoff, and Norris have. > And Busey. Imagine having Dennehy for a Dad...you'd be fucked.) > > Other than that I just don't get the joke, and comedies are generally my > favourite movies. If what they have shown on the shorts are the pick of > the bunch...hrm. I tend to agree with the comments about the offensive > portrayal of intellectually disabled people. > > PS: Talking about offensive comedy, was pleased to see George Carlin > discussed in glowing terms during an interview on Letterman last > night...and even more pleased to hear how many albums he has done, I only > have a few. > From folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com Fri Aug 15 14:22:28 2008 From: folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com (folk devil) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 11:22:28 -0700 Subject: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder In-Reply-To: <48A5BE6D.4040407@sbcglobal.net> References: <576640.58206.qm@web65712.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <48A4EA67.9040400@sbcglobal.net> <1246.124.170.218.248.1218778179.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz> <48A5BE6D.4040407@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: yes, but also realise that the NY times and LA times have a best-selling books list, that has best sellers from before the books actual day of release. They just give it an 'Oprah'. Ebert et al are subject to this i.e. PR and advertising.> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 12:35:41 -0500> From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder> > Trailers are the worst way to judge movies. The Simpsons Movie trailer, > for example, had the least funny bits.> > I haven't see Tropic Thunder, but the metacritic.com review aggregator, > which links to reviews from Roger Ebert, the New York Times, the LA > Times -- all of which give it good reviews -- is a good place to see > what's what. Of course, any of these outlets also gave 40 Year Old > Virgin good reviews, and I hated that film.> _________________________________________________________________ Get thousands of games on your PC, your mobile phone, and the web with Windows?. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/108588800/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com Fri Aug 15 14:42:07 2008 From: folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com (folk devil) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 11:42:07 -0700 Subject: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder In-Reply-To: <48A5CAE1.30102@sbcglobal.net> References: <576640.58206.qm@web65712.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <48A4EA67.9040400@sbcglobal.net> <1246.124.170.218.248.1218778179.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz> <48A5BE6D.4040407@sbcglobal.net> <48A5CAE1.30102@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: pre-orders only account for a tiny number of listed 'best-sellers'..it's a scam.> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:28:49 -0500> From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder> > There is such a thing as pre-order sales. That is, books can be > pre-ordered, and are tallied on the best seller lists from then on. I > have pre-ordered stuff many times, but not Gems of Power, thank God. :)> > -Oliver> > > folk devil wrote:> > yes, but also realise that the NY times and LA times have a > > best-selling books list, that has best sellers from before the > > books actual day of release. > > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________________ See what people are saying about Windows Live. Check out featured posts. http://www.windowslive.com/connect?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_connect2_082008 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Bet you made a beautiful bride! : ) Cheers, k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: melinda grant To: gathering at misera.net Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 2:27 PM Subject: [kj] ring-ring ;D it wasnt a joke so it wasnt all hot air thankfully mik raven followed through ;D a pic of the engagement ring that mik raven brought me,and presented to me this afternoon on 8.8.08 a very lucky day some say ;) milinda raven ps i wont bore you any more with this ok ;p Get Hotmail on your mobile from Vodafone Try it Now! _______________________________________________Gathering mailing listGathering at misera.nethttp://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________________ Play and win great prizes with Live Search and Kung Fu Panda http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/101719966/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <417907.66350.qm@web52602.mail.re2.yahoo.com> ? Now when teachers teach the children how to draw a bead it won't be to?make jewelry during arts n' crafts time, that's for sure. ? ? kanye imagine the teacher pointing a gun in the dark theater - with a laser sight right on the kid in question.. y'know, so the prof' doesn't pick on the wrong student.... ? ? ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current?state of things] 'Save me... ? save me?from Tomorrow.. ?? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...!'?? --- On Fri, 8/15/08, folk devil wrote: From: folk devil Subject: [kj] [OT] Quiet at the back! To: gathering at misera.net Date: Friday, August 15, 2008, 2:58 PM #yiv2099112599 .hmmessage P { margin:0px;padding:0px;} #yiv2099112599 { FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma;} HOUSTON (Reuters) - A Texas school district will let teachers bring guns to class this fall, the district's superintendent said on Friday, in what experts said appeared to be a first in the United States. http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSN1538661720080815 ? ? Can't they just bring back the cane or something? :/ See what people are saying about Windows Live. Check out featured posts. Check It Out! _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Wish you all the best. k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: melinda grant To: gathering at misera.net Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 2:35 PM Subject: Re: [kj] ring-ring ;D it wasnt a joke hay karen--steady on, we have only been engaged for one week so give us a chance to prepare the other ceromony ;D))))))) lol thanks anyways for the compliment,i now have alot to live up to ;) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: mikraven at o2.co.uk To: gathering at misera.net Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 22:17:40 +0100 Subject: Re: [kj] ring-ring ;D it wasnt a joke > Bet you made a beautiful bride! : ) She hasn?t yet, but I?m sure she will. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Karen Weil Sent: 14 August 2008 21:40 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] ring-ring ;D it wasnt a joke Gorgeous ring, milinda. Bet you made a beautiful bride! : ) Cheers, k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: melinda grant To: gathering at misera.net Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 2:27 PM Subject: [kj] ring-ring ;D it wasnt a joke so it wasnt all hot air thankfully mik raven followed through ;D a pic of the engagement ring that mik raven brought me,and presented to me this afternoon on 8.8.08 a very lucky day some say ;) milinda raven ps i wont bore you any more with this ok ;p ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Get Hotmail on your mobile from Vodafone Try it Now! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get Messenger on your Mobile! 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HOUSTON (Reuters) - A Texas school district will let teachers bring guns to class this fall, the district's superintendent said on Friday, in what experts said appeared to be a first in the United States. http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSN1538661720080815 Can't they just bring back the cane or something? :/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ See what people are saying about Windows Live. Check out featured posts. Check It Out! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net Fri Aug 15 23:27:45 2008 From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net (B. Oliver Sheppard) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 22:27:45 -0500 Subject: [kj] [OT] Quiet at the back! In-Reply-To: <417907.66350.qm@web52602.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <417907.66350.qm@web52602.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <48A64931.8050408@sbcglobal.net> Don't you know all the schools in Texas now are like the school in Class of 1984: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WssZvV5qMKo -Oliver sade1 wrote: > Now when teachers teach the children how to draw a bead it won't be > to make jewelry during arts n' crafts time, that's for sure. > > From gregslawson at msn.com Sat Aug 16 00:41:30 2008 From: gregslawson at msn.com (GREG SLAWSON) Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 00:41:30 -0400 Subject: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder In-Reply-To: <48A5BE6D.4040407@sbcglobal.net> References: <576640.58206.qm@web65712.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <48A4EA67.9040400@sbcglobal.net> <1246.124.170.218.248.1218778179.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz> <48A5BE6D.4040407@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: best comedy ever; 'What About Bob" w/Bill Murray and Richard Dreyfuss.> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 12:35:41 -0500> From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder> > Trailers are the worst way to judge movies. The Simpsons Movie trailer, > for example, had the least funny bits.> > I haven't see Tropic Thunder, but the metacritic.com review aggregator, > which links to reviews from Roger Ebert, the New York Times, the LA > Times -- all of which give it good reviews -- is a good place to see > what's what. Of course, any of these outlets also gave 40 Year Old > Virgin good reviews, and I hated that film.> > There have been so many horrible comedies lately that I'm just eager for > a good one. I don't like fun made at the expense of the disabled, but I > also recall a huge boycott from protesters in the disability activist > community over Clint Eastwood's _Million Dollar Baby_, and I went on to > see that, and thought it was a fine film.> > -Oliver> > > Brendan wrote:> > I've scratched my head (figuratively) every time I've seen the previews> > for it, the only funny thing I've noticed about it is the apparently> > unintentional resemblance Jack Black bears to Brian Dennehy. (I reckon> > Dennehy needs to be sent up the way Shatner, Hasslehoff, and Norris have.> > And Busey. Imagine having Dennehy for a Dad...you'd be fucked.)> >> > Other than that I just don't get the joke, and comedies are generally my> > favourite movies. If what they have shown on the shorts are the pick of> > the bunch...hrm. I tend to agree with the comments about the offensive> > portrayal of intellectually disabled people.> >> > PS: Talking about offensive comedy, was pleased to see George Carlin> > discussed in glowing terms during an interview on Letterman last> > night...and even more pleased to hear how many albums he has done, I only> > have a few.> > > > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________________ Get thousands of games on your PC, your mobile phone, and the web with Windows?. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/108588800/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From angrytomhanks at yahoo.com Sat Aug 16 01:13:57 2008 From: angrytomhanks at yahoo.com (Leigh Newton) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 22:13:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder Message-ID: <747592.8084.qm@web65708.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Ha! Yes, that is amazing. http://www.nightruiner.com http://www.myspace.com/thesunthroughatelescope http://www.myspace.com/lauderdale ----- Original Message ---- From: GREG SLAWSON To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 12:41:30 AM Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder best comedy ever; 'What About Bob" w/Bill Murray and Richard Dreyfuss. > Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 12:35:41 -0500 > From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net > To: gathering at misera.net > Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder > > Trailers are the worst way to judge movies. The Simpsons Movie trailer, > for example, had the least funny bits. > > I haven't see Tropic Thunder, but the metacritic.com review aggregator, > which links to reviews from Roger Ebert, the New York Times, the LA > Times -- all of which give it good reviews -- is a good place to see > what's what. Of course, any of these outlets also gave 40 Year Old > Virgin good reviews, and I hated that film. > > There have been so many horrible comedies lately that I'm just eager for > a good one. I don't like fun made at the expense of the disabled, but I > also recall a huge boycott from protesters in the disability activist > community over Clint Eastwood's _Million Dollar Baby_, and I went on to > see that, and thought it was a fine film. > > -Oliver > > > Brendan wrote: > > I've scratched my head (figuratively) every time I've seen the previews > > for it, the only funny thing I've noticed about it is the apparently > > unintentional resemblance Jack Black bears to Brian Dennehy. (I reckon > > Dennehy needs to be sent up the way Shatner, Hasslehoff, and Norris have. > > And Busey. Imagine having Dennehy for a Dad...you'd be fucked.) > > > > Other than that I just don't get the joke, and comedies are generally my > > favourite movies. If what they have shown on the shorts are the pick of > > the bunch...hrm. I tend to agree with the comments about the offensive > > portrayal of intellectually disabled people. > > > > PS: Talking about offensive comedy, was pleased to see George Carlin > > discussed in glowing terms during an interview on Letterman last > > night...and even more pleased to hear how many albums he has done, I only > > have a few. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ________________________________ Get thousands of games on your PC, your mobile phone, and the web with Windows?. 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Yes, that is amazing. > > http://www.nightruiner.com > http://www.myspace.com/thesunthroughatelescope > http://www.myspace.com/lauderdale > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: GREG SLAWSON > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) > > Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 12:41:30 AM > Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder > > best comedy ever; 'What About Bob" w/Bill Murray and Richard Dreyfuss. > From saulomar1 at yahoo.com Sat Aug 16 04:50:01 2008 From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com (sade1) Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 01:50:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder In-Reply-To: <576640.58206.qm@web65712.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <774817.38553.qm@web52607.mail.re2.yahoo.com> > The Man Who Knew Too Little. ? Hillarious movie, must see it again. ? ? ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current?state of things] 'Save me... ? save me?from Tomorrow.. ?? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...!'?? --- On Thu, 8/14/08, Leigh Newton wrote: From: Leigh Newton Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" Date: Thursday, August 14, 2008, 7:08 PM I'm kind of looking forward to checking it out. I like that it falls into a very exclusive and rare sub-sub-sub genre of movies which involve people in situations which they believe to be fabricated when they are, in fact......very real. See also: the Three Amigos and The Man Who Knew Too Little. Leigh http://www.nightruiner.com http://www.myspace.com/thesunthroughatelescope http://www.myspace.com/lauderdale ----- Original Message ---- From: B. Oliver Sheppard To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 6:47:31 PM Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder It's received mostly good reviews: http://www.metacritic.com/film/titles/tropicthunder That's a great website, btw. -Oliver folk devil wrote: > not sure i really want to....too many 'war' films...and a haha to bang > bang doesn't really work for me at the mo.. > > /"/ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:42:20 -0700 > From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com > To: gathering at misera.net > Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder > > Anyone seen the movie yet? > > > > ... ... ... ... ... ... > > /*[looking at the current state of things]*/ > > 'Save me... > save me from Tomorrow.. > I don't want to /sail //in this Ship Of Fools...!' / > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Your PC, mobile phone, and online services work together like never > before. 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"official touting" more like ... i > guess viagogo have set the scene ... nothing comes cheap > these days. > > Regards, > Antoni_______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk Sat Aug 16 05:59:54 2008 From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk (Change) Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 09:59:54 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] Two Organs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <778726.60585.qm@web23207.mail.ird.yahoo.com> > > > > >which is the one you have two of...is that > kidneys? > > > > Lungs . . . I could do with a spare > > > > ?50? > > I also have 2 eyes, ears, feet, hands, lips, bollocks... Dr Who has 2 hearts! Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk Sat Aug 16 06:01:47 2008 From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk (Change) Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 10:01:47 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder In-Reply-To: <1246.124.170.218.248.1218778179.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz> Message-ID: <563774.63065.qm@web23207.mail.ird.yahoo.com> The folk wot make them movies is retards, y'all! --- On Fri, 15/8/08, Brendan wrote: > From: Brendan > Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder > To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" > Date: Friday, 15 August, 2008, 6:29 AM > I've scratched my head (figuratively) every time > I've seen the previews > for it, the only funny thing I've noticed about it is > the apparently > unintentional resemblance Jack Black bears to Brian > Dennehy. (I reckon > Dennehy needs to be sent up the way Shatner, Hasslehoff, > and Norris have. > And Busey. Imagine having Dennehy for a Dad...you'd be > fucked.) > > Other than that I just don't get the joke, and comedies > are generally my > favourite movies. If what they have shown on the shorts are > the pick of > the bunch...hrm. I tend to agree with the comments about > the offensive > portrayal of intellectually disabled people. > > PS: Talking about offensive comedy, was pleased to see > George Carlin > discussed in glowing terms during an interview on Letterman > last > night...and even more pleased to hear how many albums he > has done, I only > have a few. > > > Robert Downey, Jr., who utters the objectionable word > in the movie > > ("retard") has even been mentioned as > Academy Award material for this. > > (In Tropic Thunder he plays a famous Australian actor > who undergoes > > radical cosmetic surgery to make himself into a US > black man, and > > changes his manner of speaking, etc., to make himself > seem truly black, > > unnerving his African-American co-stars). This plus > Downey, Jr.'s > > performance in Iron Man may make this his year... > > > > I am not sure how objectionable to find the movie yet, > but from the > > previews and reviews I have to admit it seems pretty > funny, and I am > > curious to see it. Anything that sends up the > hackneyed conventions of > > US war movies automatically makes me wanna see it. > "Don't you die on me, > > son!!" "I can't feel my legs, > sarge!" and all that. > > > > -Oliver > > > > > > Leigh Newton wrote: > >> I'm kind of looking forward to checking it > out. I like that it falls > >> into a very exclusive and rare sub-sub-sub genre > of movies which involve > >> people in situations which they believe to be > fabricated when they are, > >> in fact......very real. See also: the Three Amigos > and The Man Who Knew > >> Too Little. > >> > >> Leigh > >> > >> > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Gathering mailing list > > Gathering at misera.net > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From antoni at clara.net Sat Aug 16 06:03:46 2008 From: antoni at clara.net (pssyche23) Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 11:03:46 +0100 Subject: [kj] KJ @ seatwave.com References: <308256.57635.qm@web23207.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <003e01c8ff87$5f685500$0201a8c0@PSSYCHE23> Precisely ... at least with football tickets on viagogo (at least for club members & S/T holders) you sell at 85% and buy at 115% which is not ideal but you'd expect them to take some form of cut ... but here it looks like ?20 tickets being sold at ?59.99 !!! That's touting in my book ... scumbags ... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Change" To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [kj] KJ @ seatwave.com > KUNTZ > > --- On Sat, 16/8/08, pssyche23 wrote: > >> From: pssyche23 >> Subject: [kj] KJ @ seatwave.com >> To: gathering at misera.net >> Date: Saturday, 16 August, 2008, 10:53 AM >> * http://www.seatwave.com/killing-joke-tickets/season * >> >> Looke like they are mainly buying - and very few tickets >> available - but the service covers UK and international >> dates. >> >> Funny this "official ticket exchange" ... look at >> the mark up ... "official touting" more like ... i >> guess viagogo have set the scene ... nothing comes cheap >> these days. >> >> Regards, >> Antoni_______________________________________________ >> Gathering mailing list >> Gathering at misera.net >> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.4/1615 - Release Date: 16/08/2008 > 07:11 > > > From crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk Sat Aug 16 06:03:26 2008 From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk (Change) Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 10:03:26 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] OT Him Know Kung Fu In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <510641.36383.qm@web23205.mail.ird.yahoo.com> http://www.myspace.com/ventriloquistmusic Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Sat Aug 16 06:31:40 2008 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan) Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 22:31:40 +1200 (NZST) Subject: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder In-Reply-To: <48A5CAE1.30102@sbcglobal.net> References: <576640.58206.qm@web65712.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <48A4EA67.9040400@sbcglobal.net> <1246.124.170.218.248.1218778179.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz> <48A5BE6D.4040407@sbcglobal.net> <48A5CAE1.30102@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <3165.124.170.218.248.1218882700.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz> I can just imagine George Carlin mocking the term 'pre ordered' :) > There is such a thing as pre-order sales. That is, books can be > pre-ordered, and are tallied on the best seller lists from then on. I > have pre-ordered stuff many times, but not Gems of Power, thank God. :) > > -Oliver > > > folk devil wrote: >> yes, but also realise that the NY times and LA times have a >> best-selling books list, that has best sellers from before the >> books actual day of release. > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Sat Aug 16 06:39:49 2008 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan) Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 22:39:49 +1200 (NZST) Subject: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder In-Reply-To: References: <576640.58206.qm@web65712.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <48A4EA67.9040400@sbcglobal.net> <1246.124.170.218.248.1218778179.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz> <48A5BE6D.4040407@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <3242.124.170.218.248.1218883189.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz> Oh yeah I have to watch that again, been yonks. I just caught Samuel L Jackson's 'The Man' on telly and sneered my way through it...total B-grade rip off of Midnight Run, which is one of my top 10 Funniest :) Surprised he lowered himself to that. > > best comedy ever; 'What About Bob" w/Bill Murray and Richard Dreyfuss.> > Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 12:35:41 -0500> From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net> > To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic > Thunder> > Trailers are the worst way to judge movies. The Simpsons Movie > trailer, > for example, had the least funny bits.> > I haven't see Tropic > Thunder, but the metacritic.com review aggregator, > which links to > reviews from Roger Ebert, the New York Times, the LA > Times -- all of > which give it good reviews -- is a good place to see > what's what. Of > course, any of these outlets also gave 40 Year Old > Virgin good reviews, > and I hated that film.> > There have been so many horrible comedies lately > that I'm just eager for > a good one. I don't like fun made at the expense > of the disabled, but I > also recall a huge boycott from protesters in the > disability activist > community over Clint Eastwood's _Million Dollar > Baby_, and I went on to > see that, and thought it was a fine film.> > > -Oliver> > > Brendan wrote:> > I've scratched my head (figuratively) every > time I've seen the previews> > for it, the only funny thing I've noticed > about it is the apparently> > unintentional resemblance Jack Black bears > to Brian Dennehy. (I reckon> > Dennehy needs to be sent up the way > Shatner, Hasslehoff, and Norris have.> > And Busey. Imagine having Dennehy > for a Dad...you'd be fucked.)> >> > Other than that I just don't get the > joke, and comedies are generally my> > favourite movies. If what they have > shown on the shorts are the pick of> > the bunch...hrm. I tend to agree > with the comments about the offensive> > portrayal of intellectually > disabled people.> >> > PS: Talking about offensive comedy, was pleased to > see George Carlin> > discussed in glowing terms during an interview on > Letterman last> > night...and even more pleased to hear how many albums he > has done, I only> > have a few.> > > > > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> > Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > _________________________________________________________________ > Get thousands of games on your PC, your mobile phone, and the web with > Windows?. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/108588800/direct/01/_______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Sat Aug 16 06:41:40 2008 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan) Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 22:41:40 +1200 (NZST) Subject: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder In-Reply-To: <48A67136.9060100@sbcglobal.net> References: <747592.8084.qm@web65708.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <48A67136.9060100@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <3244.124.170.218.248.1218883300.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz> True. You gotta admit that Cousteau thing was a change though... About Schmidt - Nicholson...I thought that was great. > Yeah. Murray had some good ones -- What About Bob?, Groundhog Day,a and > Scrooged, before he decided to grow a beard and play the same role in > artsy flick after flick, namely, a middle aged or older man going > through an existential crisis of meaning, etc., resulting in at least > one Quiet Scene Where He Has a Pensive and Contemplative Rumination > about His Life -- the description of the last 4 or so movies he's been > in. But What About Bob? was great. > > -Oliver > > > Leigh Newton wrote: >> Ha! Yes, that is amazing. >> >> http://www.nightruiner.com >> http://www.myspace.com/thesunthroughatelescope >> http://www.myspace.com/lauderdale >> >> >> ----- Original Message ---- >> From: GREG SLAWSON >> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) >> >> Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 12:41:30 AM >> Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder >> >> best comedy ever; 'What About Bob" w/Bill Murray and Richard Dreyfuss. >> > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Sat Aug 16 06:51:12 2008 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan) Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 22:51:12 +1200 (NZST) Subject: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder In-Reply-To: <48A67136.9060100@sbcglobal.net> References: <747592.8084.qm@web65708.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <48A67136.9060100@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <3393.124.170.218.248.1218883872.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz> Check out Andie McDowell - Groundhog Day - for typecast. I almost can't watch anything with her in it. > Yeah. Murray had some good ones -- What About Bob?, Groundhog Day,a and > Scrooged, before he decided to grow a beard and play the same role in > artsy flick after flick, namely, a middle aged or older man going > through an existential crisis of meaning, etc., resulting in at least > one Quiet Scene Where He Has a Pensive and Contemplative Rumination > about His Life -- the description of the last 4 or so movies he's been > in. But What About Bob? was great. > > -Oliver > > > Leigh Newton wrote: >> Ha! Yes, that is amazing. >> >> http://www.nightruiner.com >> http://www.myspace.com/thesunthroughatelescope >> http://www.myspace.com/lauderdale >> >> >> ----- Original Message ---- >> From: GREG SLAWSON >> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) >> >> Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 12:41:30 AM >> Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder >> >> best comedy ever; 'What About Bob" w/Bill Murray and Richard Dreyfuss. >> > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From antoni at clara.net Sat Aug 16 09:00:29 2008 From: antoni at clara.net (pssyche23) Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 14:00:29 +0100 Subject: [kj] Tickets . . . References: <002801c8fc8a$7a979520$0201a8c0@PSSYCHE23> Message-ID: <001801c8ffa0$0fccf640$0201a8c0@PSSYCHE23> Noted on the online Order Tracker that my "Get Loaded 2008" tickets have been despatched today - that's only 8 days ahead of the event - anyone else who has bought for the Killing Joke gigs from seetickets.com may find they only go out a week or so beforehand - something to KIV especially with a signature required. Regards, Antoni ----- Original Message ----- From: pssyche23 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 3:48 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Tickets . . . Me too ... haven't got my Get Loaded (Iggy & Stooges etc) tickets yet either and that's the Sunday after next (24th) ... still, if it messes up touting that's okay ... ----- Original Message ----- From: Daniel Corvo To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 11:11 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Tickets . . . 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URL: From cliffmonka at alaska.net Sat Aug 16 13:05:45 2008 From: cliffmonka at alaska.net (cliffmonka at alaska.net) Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 09:05:45 -0800 (AKDT) Subject: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder In-Reply-To: <774817.38553.qm@web52607.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <774817.38553.qm@web52607.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <33486.72.42.164.101.1218906345.squirrel@mymail.acsalaska.net> It's not ok to make fun of defensless people,fuck you if you think it's ok,this is a human rights issue,and we're marching today at our local theater at 1pm totem and century 16 theaters in the god damn rain.Bring it...Cliff >> The Man Who Knew Too Little. > > ? > Hillarious movie, must see it again. > ? > ? > ... ... ... ... ... ... > > [looking at the current?state of things] > > 'Save me... > ? save me?from Tomorrow.. > ?? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...!'?? > > --- On Thu, 8/14/08, Leigh Newton wrote: > > From: Leigh Newton > Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder > To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" > Date: Thursday, August 14, 2008, 7:08 PM > > I'm kind of looking forward to checking it out. I like that it falls into a > very exclusive and rare sub-sub-sub genre of movies which involve people in > situations which they believe to be fabricated when they are, in fact......very > real. See also: the Three Amigos and The Man Who Knew Too Little. > > Leigh > > > http://www.nightruiner.com > http://www.myspace.com/thesunthroughatelescope > http://www.myspace.com/lauderdale > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: B. Oliver Sheppard > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) > > Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 6:47:31 PM > Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder > > It's received mostly good reviews: > > http://www.metacritic.com/film/titles/tropicthunder > > That's a great website, btw. > > -Oliver > > > folk devil wrote: >> not sure i really want to....too many 'war' films...and a haha to > bang >> bang doesn't really work for me at the mo.. >> >> /"/ >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:42:20 -0700 >> From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com >> To: gathering at misera.net >> Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder >> >> Anyone seen the movie yet? >> >> >> >> ... ... ... ... ... ... >> >> /*[looking at the current state of things]*/ >> >> 'Save me... >> save me from Tomorrow.. >> I don't want to /sail //in this Ship Of Fools...!' / >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Your PC, mobile phone, and online services work together like never >> before. See how Windows? fits your life >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gathering mailing list >> Gathering at misera.net >> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >> > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net Sat Aug 16 18:13:58 2008 From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net (B. Oliver Sheppard) Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 17:13:58 -0500 Subject: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder In-Reply-To: <3165.124.170.218.248.1218882700.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz> References: <576640.58206.qm@web65712.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <48A4EA67.9040400@sbcglobal.net> <1246.124.170.218.248.1218778179.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz> <48A5BE6D.4040407@sbcglobal.net> <48A5CAE1.30102@sbcglobal.net> <3165.124.170.218.248.1218882700.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz> Message-ID: <48A75126.3050808@sbcglobal.net> Yeah, I know. It's a term I don't like. Either you have ordered something, or you have not. It's like the woman in SiCko being told she had not been "pre-approved" to have an ambulance ride, by her insurance company. Either you are approved, or you are not approved. If you are in a state before being approved, you are not approved. No one says "post-approved" -- they just "approved," because that's what "approved" means. All this business lingo! This is what pisses me off about credit card offers that come in the mail saying "YOU ARE PRE-APPROVED!" It sounds like, wow, I am approved! But it actually means, "You are not approved! But you should try to be!" -Brian Brendan wrote: > I can just imagine George Carlin mocking the term 'pre ordered' :) > > >> There is such a thing as pre-order sales. That is, books can be >> pre-ordered, and are tallied on the best seller lists from then on. I >> have pre-ordered stuff many times, but not Gems of Power, thank God. :) >> >> -Oliver >> >> >> folk devil wrote: >> >>> yes, but also realise that the NY times and LA times have a >>> best-selling books list, that has best sellers from before the >>> books actual day of release. >>> >> > > From killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com Sat Aug 16 22:16:21 2008 From: killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com (The Exorcist) Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 22:16:21 -0400 Subject: [kj] [OT] Quiet at the back! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0K5Q000D43O3EBE0@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> Not when kids have gangs, guns and knives. :) At 05:58 PM 8/15/2008, folk devil wrote: >HOUSTON (Reuters) - A Texas school district will let teachers bring >guns to class this fall, the district's superintendent said on >Friday, in what experts said appeared to be a first in the United States. >http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSN1538661720080815 > > >Can't they just bring back the cane or something? :/ > > > > >---------- >See what people are saying about Windows Live. Check out featured >posts. >Check >It Out! >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering at misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering Competition is a barbaric, insensitive ritual that reeks of social Darwinism. We cannot allow the fittest to survive on our pages. Your loss is someone else's gain, and your gain is someone else's loss. Therefore, losers contribute to the society and winners take away from it. Being a winner is unethical, while a society of losers is happy and striving as a collective. In the spirit of diversity, inclusiveness, and collectivism our contests shall have no winners. Everyone is declared a loser, which in our book means an ethical team player. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Murray had some good ones -- What About Bob?, Groundhog Day,a and> > Scrooged, before he decided to grow a beard and play the same role in> > artsy flick after flick, namely, a middle aged or older man going> > through an existential crisis of meaning, etc., resulting in at least> > one Quiet Scene Where He Has a Pensive and Contemplative Rumination> > about His Life -- the description of the last 4 or so movies he's been> > in. But What About Bob? was great.> >> > -Oliver> >> >> > Leigh Newton wrote:> >> Ha! Yes, that is amazing.> >>> >> http://www.nightruiner.com> >> http://www.myspace.com/thesunthroughatelescope> >> http://www.myspace.com/lauderdale> >>> >>> >> ----- Original Message ----> >> From: GREG SLAWSON > >> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)> >> > >> Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 12:41:30 AM> >> Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder> >>> >> best comedy ever; 'What About Bob" w/Bill Murray and Richard Dreyfuss.> >>> >> > _______________________________________________> > Gathering mailing list> > Gathering at misera.net> > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering> >> > > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________________ Get ideas on sharing photos from people like you. 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Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 1:10:29 AM Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder I agree --that movie where he was in Japan sucked, as did the one about the oceanographer... > Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 22:41:40 +1200 > From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz > To: gathering at misera.net > Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder > > True. You gotta admit that Cousteau thing was a change though... > > About Schmidt - Nicholson...I thought that was great. > > > Yeah. Murray had some good ones -- What About Bob?, Groundhog Day,a and > > Scrooged, before he decided to grow a beard and play the same role in > > artsy flick after flick, namely, a middle aged or older man going > > through an existential crisis of meaning, etc., resulting in at least > > one Quiet Scene Where He Has a Pensive and Contemplative Rumination > > about His Life -- the description of the last 4 or so movies he's been > > in. But What About Bob? was great. > > > > -Oliver > > > > > > Leigh Newton wrote: > >> Ha! Yes, that is amazing. > >> > >> http://www.nightruiner.com > >> http://www.myspace.com/thesunthroughatelescope > >> http://www.myspace.com/lauderdale > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ---- > >> From: GREG SLAWSON > >> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) > >> > >> Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 12:41:30 AM > >> Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder > >> > >> best comedy ever; 'What About Bob" w/Bill Murray and Richard Dreyfuss. > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Gathering mailing list > > Gathering at misera.net > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ________________________________ Get ideas on sharing photos from people like you. Find new ways to share. Get Ideas Here! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From saulomar1 at yahoo.com Sun Aug 17 07:34:13 2008 From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com (sade1) Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 04:34:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder Message-ID: <348269.80549.qm@web52601.mail.re2.yahoo.com> i wrote: >> The Man Who Knew Too Little. > ? > Hillarious movie, must see it again. you wrote: ? > in the god damn rain.Bring it...Cliff ? ? ??? As I (somewhat vaguely) remember The Man Who Knew Too Little, I don't recall any defenseless people being offended.?I remember liking that movie because Bill Murray was cluelessly wandering thru some foreign intrigue-themed dinner theater come-to- life and never knew it. ? ?? If my asking [only] whether anyone has yet seen "Tropic Thunder" was offensive then you're reading way too much into it, even given where you're coming from on this issue. ? ?? Sounds like you've gone off the proverbial,well, you know....cliff.? When you hit ground, fuck off, will ya? Don't ? ? ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current?state of things] 'Save me... ? save me?from Tomorrow.. ?? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...!'?? --- On Sat, 8/16/08, cliffmonka at alaska.net wrote: From: cliffmonka at alaska.net Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder To: saulomar1 at yahoo.com, "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" Date: Saturday, August 16, 2008, 10:05 AM It's not ok to make fun of defensless people,fuck you if you think it's ok,this is a human rights issue,and we're marching today at our local theater at 1pm totem and century 16 theaters in the god damn rain.Bring it...Cliff >> The Man Who Knew Too Little. > > ? > Hillarious movie, must see it again. > ? > ? > ... ... ... ... ... ... > > [looking at the current?state of things] > > 'Save me... > ? save me?from Tomorrow.. > ?? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...!'?? > > --- On Thu, 8/14/08, Leigh Newton wrote: > > From: Leigh Newton > Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder > To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" > Date: Thursday, August 14, 2008, 7:08 PM > > I'm kind of looking forward to checking it out. I like that it falls into a > very exclusive and rare sub-sub-sub genre of movies which involve people in > situations which they believe to be fabricated when they are, in fact......very > real. See also: the Three Amigos and The Man Who Knew Too Little. > > Leigh > > > http://www.nightruiner.com > http://www.myspace.com/thesunthroughatelescope > http://www.myspace.com/lauderdale > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: B. Oliver Sheppard > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) > > Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 6:47:31 PM > Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder > > It's received mostly good reviews: > > http://www.metacritic.com/film/titles/tropicthunder > > That's a great website, btw. > > -Oliver > > > folk devil wrote: >> not sure i really want to....too many 'war' films...and a haha to > bang >> bang doesn't really work for me at the mo.. >> >> /"/ >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:42:20 -0700 >> From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com >> To: gathering at misera.net >> Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder >> >> Anyone seen the movie yet? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net Sun Aug 17 15:18:37 2008 From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net (B. Oliver Sheppard) Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 14:18:37 -0500 Subject: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder In-Reply-To: <935097.8317.qm@web65702.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <935097.8317.qm@web65702.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <48A8798D.8020306@sbcglobal.net> If _Lost in Translation_ did not have the name "Sofia Coppola" attached to it, I honestly believe a) no one would give a damn, and b) at least 50% of the critics who found something artsy in the prolonged, mind-numbingly slow silences that characterize the movie, would not have given it positive reviews. Just witness Coppola's next project, Marie Antoinette, where she tried to give the controversial, cruel woman from french history a hip post-punk soundtrack. That one was also bad, and at least by that time many critics' star struck "SOFIA COPPOLA!" bias had worn off a bit. -Oliver Leigh Newton wrote: > That's the one he meant and, no, they are both amazing. Damn you. > > http://www.nightruiner.com > http://www.myspace.com/thesunthroughatelescope > http://www.myspace.com/lauderdale > > From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Sun Aug 17 20:27:44 2008 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 12:27:44 +1200 (NZST) Subject: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder In-Reply-To: <48A8798D.8020306@sbcglobal.net> References: <935097.8317.qm@web65702.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <48A8798D.8020306@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <1076.124.170.218.248.1219019264.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz> Yeah I have to admit I missed the boat a bit with Lost in Translation. Well protrayed, boring story (IMO). The aquatic thing was quite good fun though, from memory (was a bit peeled at the time). > If _Lost in Translation_ did not have the name "Sofia Coppola" attached > to it, I honestly believe a) no one would give a damn, and b) at least > 50% of the critics who found something artsy in the prolonged, > mind-numbingly slow silences that characterize the movie, would not have > given it positive reviews. > > Just witness Coppola's next project, Marie Antoinette, where she tried > to give the controversial, cruel woman from french history a hip > post-punk soundtrack. That one was also bad, and at least by that time > many critics' star struck "SOFIA COPPOLA!" bias had worn off a bit. > > -Oliver > > > Leigh Newton wrote: >> That's the one he meant and, no, they are both amazing. Damn you. >> >> http://www.nightruiner.com >> http://www.myspace.com/thesunthroughatelescope >> http://www.myspace.com/lauderdale >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk Sun Aug 17 20:24:05 2008 From: jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk (Jim Harper) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 00:24:05 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder In-Reply-To: <48A8798D.8020306@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <56086.86692.qm@web25901.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> I can't agree, I'm afraid. Having Sofia Coppola as director means absolutely nothing to me. I was aware of her certainly, but I was no more inclined to worship her work than I would be to idolise the latest piece of tat directed by 'McG' or Tony Scott. I though Lost In Translation was excellent purely on its own merits, and few of?my acquaintances who also loved?it knew anything about Sofia Coppola (with the possible exception of her less-than-scintillating performance in The Godfather Part 3). ? Jim. ? ?NOW AVAILABLE: Flowers From Hell: The Modern Japanese Horror Film, by Jim Harper (Noir Publishing). "Fascinating overview of the Japanese horror boom... Comprehensive, in-depth and slickly presented."- DVD Monthly. Available from Noir Publishing, Amazon.co.uk, Waterstones and all good bookstores. --- On Sun, 17/8/08, B. Oliver Sheppard wrote: From: B. Oliver Sheppard Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" Date: Sunday, 17 August, 2008, 8:18 PM If _Lost in Translation_ did not have the name "Sofia Coppola" attached to it, I honestly believe a) no one would give a damn, and b) at least 50% of the critics who found something artsy in the prolonged, mind-numbingly slow silences that characterize the movie, would not have given it positive reviews. Just witness Coppola's next project, Marie Antoinette, where she tried to give the controversial, cruel woman from french history a hip post-punk soundtrack. That one was also bad, and at least by that time many critics' star struck "SOFIA COPPOLA!" bias had worn off a bit. -Oliver Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cliffmonka at alaska.net Sun Aug 17 23:47:51 2008 From: cliffmonka at alaska.net (cliffmonka at alaska.net) Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 19:47:51 -0800 (AKDT) Subject: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder In-Reply-To: <32988.72.42.164.101.1218766622.squirrel@mymail.acsalaska.net> References: <33022.72.42.164.101.1218704614.squirrel@mymail.acsalaska.net> <694329.50875.qm@web52608.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <48A4B603.5040509@sbcglobal.net> <32988.72.42.164.101.1218766622.squirrel@mymail.acsalaska.net> Message-ID: <32798.72.42.164.101.1219031271.squirrel@mymail.acsalaska.net> http://www.adn.com/arts/story/496381.html > Terrific article by Tim Shriver... > > > > *What 'Tropic Thunder' Thinks Is Funny* > By Timothy Shriver > Monday, August 11, 2008; A15 > > I've been told = to keep my sense of humor about the film "Tropic Thunder," > which opens = this week. Despite my requests, I have not been given the chance > to see = the movie. But I've seen previews, read about it and read excerpts = of > the script. By all accounts, it is an unchecked assault on the = humanity of > people with intellectual disabilities -- an affront to = dignity, hope and > respect. > > Consider this exchange: > > Ben = Stiller's character: "There were times when I was doing Jack when = I > actually felt retarded. Like really retarded." > > Robert Downey = Jr.'s character: "Oh yeah. Damn." > > Stiller: "In a weird way, I had = to sort of just free myself up to believe > that it was okay to be stupid = or dumb." > > Downey: "To be a moron." > > Stiller: "Yeah." > > At= another point, about acting like a person with intellectual disabilities,<= > BR>they say: > > Stiller: "It's what we do, right?" > > Downey: = "Everybody knows you never do a full retard." > > Stiller: "What do you = mean?" > > Downey: "Check it out. Dustin Hoffman, 'Rain Man,' look = retarded, act > retarded, not retarded. Count toothpicks to your cards. = Autistic, sure. Not > retarded. You know Tom Hanks, 'Forrest Gump.' Slow, = yes. Retarded, maybe. > Braces on his legs. But he charmed the pants off = Nixon and won a ping-pong > competition. That ain't retarded. You went = full retard, man. Never go full > retard." > > I worked with the = Farrelly brothers on a film on this topic. I know about > edgy comedy. = I'm also told that movies are equal-opportunity offenders. > > So = here's an equal-opportunity response to the equal-opportunity offenders: > People with intellectual disabilities are routinely abused, neglected,= > insulted, institutionalized and even killed around the world. Their = parents > are told to give up, that their children are worthless. Schools = turn them > away. Doctors refuse to treat them. Employers won't hire = them. None of this > is funny. > > For centuries, they have been the = exception to the most basic spiritual > principle: that we are each equal = in spirit, capable of reflecting the > goodness of the divine, carriers = of love. But not people with intellectual > disabilities. What's a word = commonly applied to them? Hopeless. > > Let's consider where we are in = 2008. Our politics are about overcoming > division, our social movements = are about ending intolerance, our great > philanthropists promote ending = poverty and disease among the world's poor. > Are people with intellectual= disabilities included in the mainstream of > these movements? For the = most part, no. > > Why? Because they're different. Their joy doesn't = fit on magazine covers. > Their spirituality doesn't come in self-help = television. Their kind of > wealth doesn't command political attention. = (The best of the spirit never > does.) > > Sadly, they're such an easy = target that many people don't realize whom they > are making fun of when = they use the word "retard." Most people just think > it's funny. "Stupid, = idiot, moron, retard." Ha, ha, ha. > > I know: I could be too sensitive.= But I was taught that mean isn't funny. > And I've been to institutions = where people with intellectual disabilities > are tied to beds or lie on = concrete floors, forgotten. I've heard doctors > say they won't treat = them. I know Gallup found that more than 60 percent of > Americans don't = want a person with an intellectual disability at their > child's = school. > > I've talked to people with intellectual disabilities who = cry over being > insulted on a bus. I've received too many e-mails from = people who are > devastated not by their child's disability but by the = terror of being > laughed at, excluded and economically devastated. > It wasn't funny when Hollywood humiliated African Americans for a > gener= ation. It's never funny when good and decent human beings are > humiliated= . In fact, it is dangerous and disgusting. > > This film is all that = and more. DreamWorks went so far as to create a > mini-version of Simple = Jack and posted it online. The studio has since > pulled it down, = realizing it had gone too far, even in an age of edgy, > R-rated = comedies. > > So, enough. Stop the hurtful jokes. Talk to your children = about language > that is bullying and mean. Ask your friends, your = educators, your religious > leaders to help us to end the stubborn myth = that people with intellectual > disabilities are hopeless. Ask Hollywood = to get on the right side of > dignity. > > I hope others will join me = in shutting this movie out of our lives and our > pocketbooks. We don't = live in times when labeling and humiliating others is > funny. And we = should send that message far and wide. > > *The writer is chairman of = Special Olympics and a columnist for > washingtonpost.com's On Faith = discussion site.* > > >> It's received mostly good reviews: >> >> http://www.metacritic.com/film/titles/tropicthunder >> >> That's a great website, btw. >> >> -Oliver >> >> >> folk devil wrote: >>> not sure i really want to....too many 'war' films...and a haha to bang >>> bang doesn't really work for me at the mo.. >>> >>> /"/ >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:42:20 -0700 >>> From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com >>> To: gathering at misera.net >>> Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder >>> >>> Anyone seen the movie yet? >>> >>> >>> >>> ... ... ... ... ... ... >>> >>> /*[looking at the current state of things]*/ >>> >>> 'Save me... >>> save me from Tomorrow.. >>> I don't want to /sail //in this Ship Of Fools...!' / >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Your PC, mobile phone, and online services work together like never >>> before. See how Windows? fits your life >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Gathering mailing list >>> Gathering at misera.net >>> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gathering mailing list >> Gathering at misera.net >> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From go1845 at yahoo.com Sun Aug 17 23:51:49 2008 From: go1845 at yahoo.com (Geoffrey ODonoghue) Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 20:51:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [kj] OT: Query regarding accommodation in New York Message-ID: <232504.38805.qm@web54606.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hi all ? I seem to recall that when the forthcoming KJ dates were announced there was some email traffic here about?hotel accommodation?in New York. Could some kind soul please forward?the recommendations to me or point me in the right direction to find them? My family and I are planning to?include a few days in NY in an upcoming US holiday and I am very keen to find some decent and reasonably priced accommodation. ? Thanks ? Geoff -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From angrytomhanks at yahoo.com Mon Aug 18 02:00:05 2008 From: angrytomhanks at yahoo.com (Leigh Newton) Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 23:00:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder Message-ID: <635949.17702.qm@web65709.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Bill Murray carried Lost in Translation in his pocket. Michael Bay could've directed and it still would have been great (more explosions and probably a CG Giovanni Rabisi though). Critics can bite a dick all day. Don't give two shits what they think about stuff, only what I think about stuff. Yes to Marie Antoinette being horrible though. I mean, I never saw it but it clearly sucks. What a shitty idea. And i can't stand Kirsten Dunst. http://www.nightruiner.com http://www.myspace.com/thesunthroughatelescope http://www.myspace.com/lauderdale ----- Original Message ---- From: B. Oliver Sheppard To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 3:18:37 PM Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder If _Lost in Translation_ did not have the name "Sofia Coppola" attached to it, I honestly believe a) no one would give a damn, and b) at least 50% of the critics who found something artsy in the prolonged, mind-numbingly slow silences that characterize the movie, would not have given it positive reviews. Just witness Coppola's next project, Marie Antoinette, where she tried to give the controversial, cruel woman from french history a hip post-punk soundtrack. That one was also bad, and at least by that time many critics' star struck "SOFIA COPPOLA!" bias had worn off a bit. -Oliver Leigh Newton wrote: > That's the one he meant and, no, they are both amazing. Damn you. > > http://www.nightruiner.com > http://www.myspace.com/thesunthroughatelescope > http://www.myspace.com/lauderdale > > _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net Mon Aug 18 02:02:27 2008 From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net (B. Oliver Sheppard) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 01:02:27 -0500 Subject: [kj] OT: Query regarding accommodation in New York In-Reply-To: <232504.38805.qm@web54606.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <232504.38805.qm@web54606.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <48A91073.7010206@sbcglobal.net> Are any of the KJ NYC tix still available? I've asked on the Facebook communities but no one is responding... -Oliver Geoffrey ODonoghue wrote: > Hi all > > I seem to recall that when the forthcoming KJ dates were announced > there was some email traffic here about hotel accommodation in New > York. Could some kind soul please forward the recommendations to me or > point me in the right direction to find them? My family and I are > planning to include a few days in NY in an upcoming US holiday and I > am very keen to find some decent and reasonably priced accommodation. > > Thanks > > Geoff > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net Mon Aug 18 02:04:41 2008 From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net (B. Oliver Sheppard) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 01:04:41 -0500 Subject: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder In-Reply-To: <635949.17702.qm@web65709.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <635949.17702.qm@web65709.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <48A910F9.9030308@sbcglobal.net> I enjoy reading (good) film criticism. there is a kind of art to it. Some of the best directors began as film critics. Like Jean-Luc Godard. (Just like Chrissie Hynde of the Pretenders began as a music critic -- people often think critics are the ones who can't do, so they bitch about what others do -- not so, necessarily!) Through some of the best film criticism I've come to appreciate many films on many different levels I otherwise wouldn't have. Still, nothing trumps my own ultimate judgment. And that for Lost In Translation was -- way, way overrated. -Oliver Leigh Newton wrote: > Bill Murray carried Lost in Translation in his pocket. Michael Bay could've directed and it still would have been great (more explosions and probably a CG Giovanni Rabisi though). Critics can bite a dick all day. Don't give two shits what they think about stuff, only what I think about stuff. > > Yes to Marie Antoinette being horrible though. I mean, I never saw it but it clearly sucks. What a shitty idea. And i can't stand Kirsten Dunst. > > http://www.nightruiner.com > http://www.myspace.com/thesunthroughatelescope > http://www.myspace.com/lauderdale > > > From cliffmonka at alaska.net Mon Aug 18 04:03:19 2008 From: cliffmonka at alaska.net (cliffmonka at alaska.net) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 00:03:19 -0800 (AKDT) Subject: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder In-Reply-To: <32798.72.42.164.101.1219031271.squirrel@mymail.acsalaska.net> References: <33022.72.42.164.101.1218704614.squirrel@mymail.acsalaska.net> <694329.50875.qm@web52608.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <48A4B603.5040509@sbcglobal.net> <32988.72.42.164.101.1218766622.squirrel@mymail.acsalaska.net> <32798.72.42.164.101.1219031271.squirrel@mymail.acsalaska.net> Message-ID: <33098.72.42.164.101.1219046599.squirrel@mymail.acsalaska.net> Hiya ok here's a tv news story and daily news article from the protest boycotting the film Tropic Thunder we did on saturday,Peace,Cliff http://www.ktuu.com/Global/story.asp?S=8853261 http://www.adn.com/arts/story/496381.html > http://www.adn.com/arts/story/496381.html > > >> Terrific article by Tim Shriver... >> >> >> >> *What 'Tropic Thunder' Thinks Is Funny* >> By Timothy Shriver >> Monday, August 11, 2008; A15 >> >> I've been told = to keep my sense of humor about the film "Tropic Thunder," >> which opens = this week. Despite my requests, I have not been given the chance >> to see = the movie. But I've seen previews, read about it and read excerpts = of >> the script. By all accounts, it is an unchecked assault on the = humanity of >> people with intellectual disabilities -- an affront to = dignity, hope and >> respect. >> >> Consider this exchange: >> >> Ben = Stiller's character: "There were times when I was doing Jack when = I >> actually felt retarded. Like really retarded." >> >> Robert Downey = Jr.'s character: "Oh yeah. Damn." >> >> Stiller: "In a weird way, I had = to sort of just free myself up to believe >> that it was okay to be stupid = or dumb." >> >> Downey: "To be a moron." >> >> Stiller: "Yeah." >> >> At= another point, about acting like a person with intellectual disabilities,<= >> BR>they say: >> >> Stiller: "It's what we do, right?" >> >> Downey: = "Everybody knows you never do a full retard." >> >> Stiller: "What do you = mean?" >> >> Downey: "Check it out. Dustin Hoffman, 'Rain Man,' look = retarded, act >> retarded, not retarded. Count toothpicks to your cards. = Autistic, sure. Not >> retarded. You know Tom Hanks, 'Forrest Gump.' Slow, = yes. Retarded, maybe. >> Braces on his legs. But he charmed the pants off = Nixon and won a ping-pong >> competition. That ain't retarded. You went = full retard, man. Never go full >> retard." >> >> I worked with the = Farrelly brothers on a film on this topic. I know about >> edgy comedy. = I'm also told that movies are equal-opportunity offenders. >> >> So = here's an equal-opportunity response to the equal-opportunity offenders: >> People with intellectual disabilities are routinely abused, neglected,= >> insulted, institutionalized and even killed around the world. Their = parents >> are told to give up, that their children are worthless. Schools = turn them >> away. Doctors refuse to treat them. Employers won't hire = them. None of this >> is funny. >> >> For centuries, they have been the = exception to the most basic spiritual >> principle: that we are each equal = in spirit, capable of reflecting the >> goodness of the divine, carriers = of love. But not people with intellectual >> disabilities. What's a word = commonly applied to them? Hopeless. >> >> Let's consider where we are in = 2008. Our politics are about overcoming >> division, our social movements = are about ending intolerance, our great >> philanthropists promote ending = poverty and disease among the world's poor. >> Are people with intellectual= disabilities included in the mainstream of >> these movements? For the = most part, no. >> >> Why? Because they're different. Their joy doesn't = fit on magazine covers. >> Their spirituality doesn't come in self-help = television. Their kind of >> wealth doesn't command political attention. = (The best of the spirit never >> does.) >> >> Sadly, they're such an easy = target that many people don't realize whom they >> are making fun of when = they use the word "retard." Most people just think >> it's funny. "Stupid, = idiot, moron, retard." Ha, ha, ha. >> >> I know: I could be too sensitive.= But I was taught that mean isn't funny. >> And I've been to institutions = where people with intellectual disabilities >> are tied to beds or lie on = concrete floors, forgotten. I've heard doctors >> say they won't treat = them. I know Gallup found that more than 60 percent of >> Americans don't = want a person with an intellectual disability at their >> child's = school. >> >> I've talked to people with intellectual disabilities who = cry over being >> insulted on a bus. I've received too many e-mails from = people who are >> devastated not by their child's disability but by the = terror of being >> laughed at, excluded and economically devastated. >> It wasn't funny when Hollywood humiliated African Americans for a >> gener= ation. It's never funny when good and decent human beings are >> humiliated= . In fact, it is dangerous and disgusting. >> >> This film is all that = and more. DreamWorks went so far as to create a >> mini-version of Simple = Jack and posted it online. The studio has since >> pulled it down, = realizing it had gone too far, even in an age of edgy, >> R-rated = comedies. >> >> So, enough. Stop the hurtful jokes. Talk to your children = about language >> that is bullying and mean. Ask your friends, your = educators, your religious >> leaders to help us to end the stubborn myth = that people with intellectual >> disabilities are hopeless. Ask Hollywood = to get on the right side of >> dignity. >> >> I hope others will join me = in shutting this movie out of our lives and our >> pocketbooks. We don't = live in times when labeling and humiliating others is >> funny. And we = should send that message far and wide. >> >> *The writer is chairman of = Special Olympics and a columnist for >> washingtonpost.com's On Faith = discussion site.* >> >> >>> It's received mostly good reviews: >>> >>> http://www.metacritic.com/film/titles/tropicthunder >>> >>> That's a great website, btw. >>> >>> -Oliver >>> >>> >>> folk devil wrote: >>>> not sure i really want to....too many 'war' films...and a haha to bang >>>> bang doesn't really work for me at the mo.. >>>> >>>> /"/ >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:42:20 -0700 >>>> From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com >>>> To: gathering at misera.net >>>> Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder >>>> >>>> Anyone seen the movie yet? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ... ... ... ... ... ... >>>> >>>> /*[looking at the current state of things]*/ >>>> >>>> 'Save me... >>>> save me from Tomorrow.. >>>> I don't want to /sail //in this Ship Of Fools...!' / >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> Your PC, mobile phone, and online services work together like never >>>> before. See how Windows? fits your life >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Gathering mailing list >>>> Gathering at misera.net >>>> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Gathering mailing list >>> Gathering at misera.net >>> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gathering mailing list >> Gathering at misera.net >> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From blankwerks at gmail.com Mon Aug 18 04:20:16 2008 From: blankwerks at gmail.com (blankwerks) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 09:20:16 +0100 Subject: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder In-Reply-To: <33098.72.42.164.101.1219046599.squirrel@mymail.acsalaska.net> References: <33022.72.42.164.101.1218704614.squirrel@mymail.acsalaska.net> <694329.50875.qm@web52608.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <48A4B603.5040509@sbcglobal.net> <32988.72.42.164.101.1218766622.squirrel@mymail.acsalaska.net> <32798.72.42.164.101.1219031271.squirrel@mymail.acsalaska.net> <33098.72.42.164.101.1219046599.squirrel@mymail.acsalaska.net> Message-ID: Isn't the film also about the ludicrous behaviour of a group of self obsessed actors? surely their dismissal and mockery of any group is down to the fact that they are in fact a load of complete wankers only able to think about themselves? I don't plan on seing the film, but I know the general premise is that they are arseholes who get taught a lesson and re-evaluate themselves. Their use of the "retard" word just goes to show how out of touch they are. Oh and protesting about it will certainly do one thing - gve it more publicity. And not get the studio to take it off release. 2008/8/18 > Hiya ok here's a tv news story and daily news article from the protest > boycotting > the film Tropic Thunder we did on saturday,Peace,Cliff > > http://www.ktuu.com/Global/story.asp?S=8853261 > > http://www.adn.com/arts/story/496381.html > > > > http://www.adn.com/arts/story/496381.html > > > > > >> Terrific article by Tim Shriver... > >> > >> > >> > >> *What 'Tropic Thunder' Thinks Is Funny* > >> By Timothy Shriver > >> Monday, August 11, 2008; A15 > >> > >> I've been told = to keep my sense of humor about the film "Tropic > Thunder," > >> which opens = this week. Despite my requests, I have not been given the > chance > >> to see = the movie. But I've seen previews, read about it and read > excerpts = of > >> the script. By all accounts, it is an unchecked assault on the = > humanity of > >> people with intellectual disabilities -- an affront to = dignity, hope > and > >> respect. > >> > >> Consider this exchange: > >> > >> Ben = Stiller's character: "There were times when I was doing Jack when > = I > >> actually felt retarded. Like really retarded." > >> > >> Robert Downey = Jr.'s character: "Oh yeah. Damn." > >> > >> Stiller: "In a weird way, I had = to sort of just free myself up to > believe > >> that it was okay to be stupid = or dumb." > >> > >> Downey: "To be a moron." > >> > >> Stiller: "Yeah." > >> > >> At= another point, about acting like a person with intellectual > disabilities,<= > >> BR>they say: > >> > >> Stiller: "It's what we do, right?" > >> > >> Downey: = "Everybody knows you never do a full retard." > >> > >> Stiller: "What do you = mean?" > >> > >> Downey: "Check it out. Dustin Hoffman, 'Rain Man,' look = retarded, act > >> retarded, not retarded. Count toothpicks to your cards. = Autistic, > sure. Not > >> retarded. You know Tom Hanks, 'Forrest Gump.' Slow, = yes. Retarded, > maybe. > >> Braces on his legs. But he charmed the pants off = Nixon and won a > ping-pong > >> competition. That ain't retarded. You went = full retard, man. Never go > full > >> retard." > >> > >> I worked with the = Farrelly brothers on a film on this topic. I know > about > >> edgy comedy. = I'm also told that movies are equal-opportunity > offenders. > >> > >> So = here's an equal-opportunity response to the equal-opportunity > offenders: > >> People with intellectual disabilities are routinely abused, neglected,= > >> insulted, institutionalized and even killed around the world. Their = > parents > >> are told to give up, that their children are worthless. Schools = turn > them > >> away. Doctors refuse to treat them. Employers won't hire = them. None of > this > >> is funny. > >> > >> For centuries, they have been the = exception to the most basic > spiritual > >> principle: that we are each equal = in spirit, capable of reflecting the > >> goodness of the divine, carriers = of love. But not people with > intellectual > >> disabilities. What's a word = commonly applied to them? Hopeless. > >> > >> Let's consider where we are in = 2008. Our politics are about overcoming > >> division, our social movements = are about ending intolerance, our great > >> philanthropists promote ending = poverty and disease among the world's > poor. > >> Are people with intellectual= disabilities included in the mainstream of > >> these movements? For the = most part, no. > >> > >> Why? Because they're different. Their joy doesn't = fit on magazine > covers. > >> Their spirituality doesn't come in self-help = television. Their kind of > >> wealth doesn't command political attention. = (The best of the spirit > never > >> does.) > >> > >> Sadly, they're such an easy = target that many people don't realize whom > they > >> are making fun of when = they use the word "retard." Most people just > think > >> it's funny. "Stupid, = idiot, moron, retard." Ha, ha, ha. > >> > >> I know: I could be too sensitive.= But I was taught that mean isn't > funny. > >> And I've been to institutions = where people with intellectual > disabilities > >> are tied to beds or lie on = concrete floors, forgotten. I've heard > doctors > >> say they won't treat = them. I know Gallup found that more than 60 > percent of > >> Americans don't = want a person with an intellectual disability at their > >> child's = school. > >> > >> I've talked to people with intellectual disabilities who = cry over > being > >> insulted on a bus. I've received too many e-mails from = people who are > >> devastated not by their child's disability but by the = terror of being > >> laughed at, excluded and economically devastated. > >> It wasn't funny when Hollywood humiliated African Americans for a > >> gener= ation. It's never funny when good and decent human beings are > >> humiliated= . In fact, it is dangerous and disgusting. > >> > >> This film is all that = and more. DreamWorks went so far as to create a > >> mini-version of Simple = Jack and posted it online. The studio has since > >> pulled it down, = realizing it had gone too far, even in an age of edgy, > >> R-rated = comedies. > >> > >> So, enough. Stop the hurtful jokes. Talk to your children = about > language > >> that is bullying and mean. Ask your friends, your = educators, your > religious > >> leaders to help us to end the stubborn myth = that people with > intellectual > >> disabilities are hopeless. Ask Hollywood = to get on the right side of > >> dignity. > >> > >> I hope others will join me = in shutting this movie out of our lives and > our > >> pocketbooks. We don't = live in times when labeling and humiliating > others is > >> funny. And we = should send that message far and wide. > >> > >> *The writer is chairman of = Special Olympics and a columnist for > >> washingtonpost.com's On Faith = discussion site.* > >> > >> > >>> It's received mostly good reviews: > >>> > >>> http://www.metacritic.com/film/titles/tropicthunder > >>> > >>> That's a great website, btw. > >>> > >>> -Oliver > >>> > >>> > >>> folk devil wrote: > >>>> not sure i really want to....too many 'war' films...and a haha to bang > >>>> bang doesn't really work for me at the mo.. > >>>> > >>>> /"/ > >>>> > >>>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>>> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:42:20 -0700 > >>>> From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com > >>>> To: gathering at misera.net > >>>> Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder > >>>> > >>>> Anyone seen the movie yet? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ... ... ... ... ... ... > >>>> > >>>> /*[looking at the current state of things]*/ > >>>> > >>>> 'Save me... > >>>> save me from Tomorrow.. > >>>> I don't want to /sail //in this Ship Of Fools...!' / > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>>> Your PC, mobile phone, and online services work together like never > >>>> before. 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URL: From cliffmonka at alaska.net Mon Aug 18 05:36:09 2008 From: cliffmonka at alaska.net (cliffmonka at alaska.net) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 01:36:09 -0800 (AKDT) Subject: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder In-Reply-To: References: <33022.72.42.164.101.1218704614.squirrel@mymail.acsalaska.net> <694329.50875.qm@web52608.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <48A4B603.5040509@sbcglobal.net> <32988.72.42.164.101.1218766622.squirrel@mymail.acsalaska.net> <32798.72.42.164.101.1219031271.squirrel@mymail.acsalaska.net> <33098.72.42.164.101.1219046599.squirrel@mymail.acsalaska.net> Message-ID: <33013.72.42.164.101.1219052169.squirrel@mymail.acsalaska.net> not to forget they have a white guy in black face,racist film aswell.they consulted the NAACP but none of the agencies serving people who experience disabilities. Go figure,why would they care if they make fun of a defenseless group,utter cowards these hollywood people are.Completly Fked off,Cliff > Isn't the film also about the ludicrous behaviour of a group of self > obsessed actors? surely their dismissal and mockery of any group is down to > the fact that they are in fact a load of complete wankers only able to think > about themselves? > > I don't plan on seing the film, but I know the general premise is that they > are arseholes who get taught a lesson and re-evaluate themselves. Their use > of the "retard" word just goes to show how out of touch they are. > > Oh and protesting about it will certainly do one thing - gve it more > publicity. And not get the studio to take it off release. > > > 2008/8/18 > >> Hiya ok here's a tv news story and daily news article from the protest >> boycotting >> the film Tropic Thunder we did on saturday,Peace,Cliff >> >> http://www.ktuu.com/Global/story.asp?S=8853261 >> >> http://www.adn.com/arts/story/496381.html >> >> >> > http://www.adn.com/arts/story/496381.html >> > >> > >> >> Terrific article by Tim Shriver... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *What 'Tropic Thunder' Thinks Is Funny* >> >> By Timothy Shriver >> >> Monday, August 11, 2008; A15 >> >> >> >> I've been told = to keep my sense of humor about the film "Tropic >> Thunder," >> >> which opens = this week. Despite my requests, I have not been given the >> chance >> >> to see = the movie. But I've seen previews, read about it and read >> excerpts = of >> >> the script. By all accounts, it is an unchecked assault on the = >> humanity of >> >> people with intellectual disabilities -- an affront to = dignity, hope >> and >> >> respect. >> >> >> >> Consider this exchange: >> >> >> >> Ben = Stiller's character: "There were times when I was doing Jack when >> = I >> >> actually felt retarded. Like really retarded." >> >> >> >> Robert Downey = Jr.'s character: "Oh yeah. Damn." >> >> >> >> Stiller: "In a weird way, I had = to sort of just free myself up to >> believe >> >> that it was okay to be stupid = or dumb." >> >> >> >> Downey: "To be a moron." >> >> >> >> Stiller: "Yeah." >> >> >> >> At= another point, about acting like a person with intellectual >> disabilities,<= >> >> BR>they say: >> >> >> >> Stiller: "It's what we do, right?" >> >> >> >> Downey: = "Everybody knows you never do a full retard." >> >> >> >> Stiller: "What do you = mean?" >> >> >> >> Downey: "Check it out. Dustin Hoffman, 'Rain Man,' look = retarded, act >> >> retarded, not retarded. Count toothpicks to your cards. = Autistic, >> sure. Not >> >> retarded. You know Tom Hanks, 'Forrest Gump.' Slow, = yes. Retarded, >> maybe. >> >> Braces on his legs. But he charmed the pants off = Nixon and won a >> ping-pong >> >> competition. That ain't retarded. You went = full retard, man. Never go >> full >> >> retard." >> >> >> >> I worked with the = Farrelly brothers on a film on this topic. I know >> about >> >> edgy comedy. = I'm also told that movies are equal-opportunity >> offenders. >> >> >> >> So = here's an equal-opportunity response to the equal-opportunity >> offenders: >> >> People with intellectual disabilities are routinely abused, neglected,= >> >> insulted, institutionalized and even killed around the world. Their = >> parents >> >> are told to give up, that their children are worthless. Schools = turn >> them >> >> away. Doctors refuse to treat them. Employers won't hire = them. None of >> this >> >> is funny. >> >> >> >> For centuries, they have been the = exception to the most basic >> spiritual >> >> principle: that we are each equal = in spirit, capable of reflecting the >> >> goodness of the divine, carriers = of love. But not people with >> intellectual >> >> disabilities. What's a word = commonly applied to them? Hopeless. >> >> >> >> Let's consider where we are in = 2008. Our politics are about overcoming >> >> division, our social movements = are about ending intolerance, our great >> >> philanthropists promote ending = poverty and disease among the world's >> poor. >> >> Are people with intellectual= disabilities included in the mainstream of >> >> these movements? For the = most part, no. >> >> >> >> Why? Because they're different. Their joy doesn't = fit on magazine >> covers. >> >> Their spirituality doesn't come in self-help = television. Their kind of >> >> wealth doesn't command political attention. = (The best of the spirit >> never >> >> does.) >> >> >> >> Sadly, they're such an easy = target that many people don't realize whom >> they >> >> are making fun of when = they use the word "retard." Most people just >> think >> >> it's funny. "Stupid, = idiot, moron, retard." Ha, ha, ha. >> >> >> >> I know: I could be too sensitive.= But I was taught that mean isn't >> funny. >> >> And I've been to institutions = where people with intellectual >> disabilities >> >> are tied to beds or lie on = concrete floors, forgotten. I've heard >> doctors >> >> say they won't treat = them. I know Gallup found that more than 60 >> percent of >> >> Americans don't = want a person with an intellectual disability at their >> >> child's = school. >> >> >> >> I've talked to people with intellectual disabilities who = cry over >> being >> >> insulted on a bus. I've received too many e-mails from = people who are >> >> devastated not by their child's disability but by the = terror of being >> >> laughed at, excluded and economically devastated. >> >> It wasn't funny when Hollywood humiliated African Americans for a >> >> gener= ation. It's never funny when good and decent human beings are >> >> humiliated= . In fact, it is dangerous and disgusting. >> >> >> >> This film is all that = and more. DreamWorks went so far as to create a >> >> mini-version of Simple = Jack and posted it online. The studio has since >> >> pulled it down, = realizing it had gone too far, even in an age of edgy, >> >> R-rated = comedies. >> >> >> >> So, enough. Stop the hurtful jokes. Talk to your children = about >> language >> >> that is bullying and mean. Ask your friends, your = educators, your >> religious >> >> leaders to help us to end the stubborn myth = that people with >> intellectual >> >> disabilities are hopeless. Ask Hollywood = to get on the right side of >> >> dignity. >> >> >> >> I hope others will join me = in shutting this movie out of our lives and >> our >> >> pocketbooks. We don't = live in times when labeling and humiliating >> others is >> >> funny. And we = should send that message far and wide. >> >> >> >> *The writer is chairman of = Special Olympics and a columnist for >> >> washingtonpost.com's On Faith = discussion site.* >> >> >> >> >> >>> It's received mostly good reviews: >> >>> >> >>> http://www.metacritic.com/film/titles/tropicthunder >> >>> >> >>> That's a great website, btw. >> >>> >> >>> -Oliver >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> folk devil wrote: >> >>>> not sure i really want to....too many 'war' films...and a haha to bang >> >>>> bang doesn't really work for me at the mo.. >> >>>> >> >>>> /"/ >> >>>> >> >>>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >>>> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:42:20 -0700 >> >>>> From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com >> >>>> To: gathering at misera.net >> >>>> Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder >> >>>> >> >>>> Anyone seen the movie yet? >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> ... ... ... ... ... ... >> >>>> >> >>>> /*[looking at the current state of things]*/ >> >>>> >> >>>> 'Save me... >> >>>> save me from Tomorrow.. >> >>>> I don't want to /sail //in this Ship Of Fools...!' / >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >>>> Your PC, mobile phone, and online services work together like never >> >>>> before. See how Windows(R) fits your life >> >>>> >> >>>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >>>> >> >>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>> Gathering mailing list >> >>>> Gathering at misera.net >> >>>> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> Gathering mailing list >> >>> Gathering at misera.net >> >>> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Gathering mailing list >> >> Gathering at misera.net >> >> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >> >> >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Gathering mailing list >> > Gathering at misera.net >> > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >> > >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gathering mailing list >> Gathering at misera.net >> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >> > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From blankwerks at gmail.com Mon Aug 18 05:51:44 2008 From: blankwerks at gmail.com (blankwerks) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 10:51:44 +0100 Subject: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder In-Reply-To: <33013.72.42.164.101.1219052169.squirrel@mymail.acsalaska.net> References: <33022.72.42.164.101.1218704614.squirrel@mymail.acsalaska.net> <694329.50875.qm@web52608.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <48A4B603.5040509@sbcglobal.net> <32988.72.42.164.101.1218766622.squirrel@mymail.acsalaska.net> <32798.72.42.164.101.1219031271.squirrel@mymail.acsalaska.net> <33098.72.42.164.101.1219046599.squirrel@mymail.acsalaska.net> <33013.72.42.164.101.1219052169.squirrel@mymail.acsalaska.net> Message-ID: Again, isn't the inclusion of a clearly white, and not knowedgable about any black issues, actor, blacked up and frankly ludicrous, just part of the story to indicate clearly how out of touch and precious that this bunch of actors are? The whole thing surely is to demonstrate how ridiculously self obsessed and self appreciating this bunch of idiots are, and how they clearly have delusions that their "art" propels them to a status where they are free to comment and judge, and indeed represent by acting any social racial or minority group. You are supposed to be laughing at their ridiculous behaviour and at the fact that they ARE bigoted idiots obsessed only with themselves, not laughing at the word "retard" or the fact that someone has "blacked up". The whole point is that people like this and attitudes like that are outdated and unwanted, and to ridicule people that hold those thoughts and are so dismissive of anyone who doesn't hold the same status as them. You are missing the whole point of those characters - they and their views are the ones that are being ridiculed, not the subjects of their discussion. Plenty of comedy and satirical films and programmes where main characters are used in this way to portray the simple mindedness of the lead character, wouldn't surprise me if the idea of this was lifted by Stiller from the UK version of The Office and more specifically David Brent's treatment and behaviour towards their employee who is a wheelchair user. The whole comedy in those pieces was directed towards the ludicrous views of Brent, and not towards the disabled person. Incidentally, I'm no Stiller fan - but merely because he isn't funny, not because he is some kind of racist disability hating Hollywood star. 2008/8/18 > not to forget they have a white guy in black face,racist film aswell.they > consulted > the NAACP but none of the agencies serving people who experience > disabilities. > Go figure,why would they care if they make fun of a defenseless group,utter > cowards > these hollywood people are.Completly Fked off,Cliff > > > > Isn't the film also about the ludicrous behaviour of a group of self > > obsessed actors? surely their dismissal and mockery of any group is down > to > > the fact that they are in fact a load of complete wankers only able to > think > > about themselves? > > > > I don't plan on seing the film, but I know the general premise is that > they > > are arseholes who get taught a lesson and re-evaluate themselves. Their > use > > of the "retard" word just goes to show how out of touch they are. > > > > Oh and protesting about it will certainly do one thing - gve it more > > publicity. And not get the studio to take it off release. > > > > > > 2008/8/18 > > > >> Hiya ok here's a tv news story and daily news article from the protest > >> boycotting > >> the film Tropic Thunder we did on saturday,Peace,Cliff > >> > >> http://www.ktuu.com/Global/story.asp?S=8853261 > >> > >> http://www.adn.com/arts/story/496381.html > >> > >> > >> > http://www.adn.com/arts/story/496381.html > >> > > >> > > >> >> Terrific article by Tim Shriver... > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> *What 'Tropic Thunder' Thinks Is Funny* > >> >> By Timothy Shriver > >> >> Monday, August 11, 2008; A15 > >> >> > >> >> I've been told = to keep my sense of humor about the film "Tropic > >> Thunder," > >> >> which opens = this week. Despite my requests, I have not been given > the > >> chance > >> >> to see = the movie. But I've seen previews, read about it and read > >> excerpts = of > >> >> the script. By all accounts, it is an unchecked assault on the = > >> humanity of > >> >> people with intellectual disabilities -- an affront to = dignity, > hope > >> and > >> >> respect. > >> >> > >> >> Consider this exchange: > >> >> > >> >> Ben = Stiller's character: "There were times when I was doing Jack > when > >> = I > >> >> actually felt retarded. Like really retarded." > >> >> > >> >> Robert Downey = Jr.'s character: "Oh yeah. Damn." > >> >> > >> >> Stiller: "In a weird way, I had = to sort of just free myself up to > >> believe > >> >> that it was okay to be stupid = or dumb." > >> >> > >> >> Downey: "To be a moron." > >> >> > >> >> Stiller: "Yeah." > >> >> > >> >> At= another point, about acting like a person with intellectual > >> disabilities,<= > >> >> BR>they say: > >> >> > >> >> Stiller: "It's what we do, right?" > >> >> > >> >> Downey: = "Everybody knows you never do a full retard." > >> >> > >> >> Stiller: "What do you = mean?" > >> >> > >> >> Downey: "Check it out. Dustin Hoffman, 'Rain Man,' look = retarded, > act > >> >> retarded, not retarded. Count toothpicks to your cards. = Autistic, > >> sure. Not > >> >> retarded. You know Tom Hanks, 'Forrest Gump.' Slow, = yes. Retarded, > >> maybe. > >> >> Braces on his legs. But he charmed the pants off = Nixon and won a > >> ping-pong > >> >> competition. That ain't retarded. You went = full retard, man. Never > go > >> full > >> >> retard." > >> >> > >> >> I worked with the = Farrelly brothers on a film on this topic. I know > >> about > >> >> edgy comedy. = I'm also told that movies are equal-opportunity > >> offenders. > >> >> > >> >> So = here's an equal-opportunity response to the equal-opportunity > >> offenders: > >> >> People with intellectual disabilities are routinely abused, > neglected,= > >> >> insulted, institutionalized and even killed around the world. Their = > >> parents > >> >> are told to give up, that their children are worthless. Schools = > turn > >> them > >> >> away. Doctors refuse to treat them. Employers won't hire = them. None > of > >> this > >> >> is funny. > >> >> > >> >> For centuries, they have been the = exception to the most basic > >> spiritual > >> >> principle: that we are each equal = in spirit, capable of reflecting > the > >> >> goodness of the divine, carriers = of love. But not people with > >> intellectual > >> >> disabilities. What's a word = commonly applied to them? Hopeless. > >> >> > >> >> Let's consider where we are in = 2008. Our politics are about > overcoming > >> >> division, our social movements = are about ending intolerance, our > great > >> >> philanthropists promote ending = poverty and disease among the > world's > >> poor. > >> >> Are people with intellectual= disabilities included in the mainstream > of > >> >> these movements? For the = most part, no. > >> >> > >> >> Why? Because they're different. Their joy doesn't = fit on magazine > >> covers. > >> >> Their spirituality doesn't come in self-help = television. Their kind > of > >> >> wealth doesn't command political attention. = (The best of the spirit > >> never > >> >> does.) > >> >> > >> >> Sadly, they're such an easy = target that many people don't realize > whom > >> they > >> >> are making fun of when = they use the word "retard." Most people just > >> think > >> >> it's funny. "Stupid, = idiot, moron, retard." Ha, ha, ha. > >> >> > >> >> I know: I could be too sensitive.= But I was taught that mean isn't > >> funny. > >> >> And I've been to institutions = where people with intellectual > >> disabilities > >> >> are tied to beds or lie on = concrete floors, forgotten. I've heard > >> doctors > >> >> say they won't treat = them. I know Gallup found that more than 60 > >> percent of > >> >> Americans don't = want a person with an intellectual disability at > their > >> >> child's = school. > >> >> > >> >> I've talked to people with intellectual disabilities who = cry over > >> being > >> >> insulted on a bus. I've received too many e-mails from = people who > are > >> >> devastated not by their child's disability but by the = terror of > being > >> >> laughed at, excluded and economically devastated. > >> >> It wasn't funny when Hollywood humiliated African Americans for a > >> >> gener= ation. It's never funny when good and decent human beings are > >> >> humiliated= . In fact, it is dangerous and disgusting. > >> >> > >> >> This film is all that = and more. DreamWorks went so far as to create > a > >> >> mini-version of Simple = Jack and posted it online. The studio has > since > >> >> pulled it down, = realizing it had gone too far, even in an age of > edgy, > >> >> R-rated = comedies. > >> >> > >> >> So, enough. Stop the hurtful jokes. Talk to your children = about > >> language > >> >> that is bullying and mean. Ask your friends, your = educators, your > >> religious > >> >> leaders to help us to end the stubborn myth = that people with > >> intellectual > >> >> disabilities are hopeless. Ask Hollywood = to get on the right side > of > >> >> dignity. > >> >> > >> >> I hope others will join me = in shutting this movie out of our lives > and > >> our > >> >> pocketbooks. We don't = live in times when labeling and humiliating > >> others is > >> >> funny. 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URL: From vassifer at earthlink.net Mon Aug 18 07:22:03 2008 From: vassifer at earthlink.net (Alexander Smith) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 07:22:03 -0400 Subject: [kj] OT: Query regarding accommodation in New York In-Reply-To: <232504.38805.qm@web54606.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <232504.38805.qm@web54606.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8D322BCD-6342-4C53-94A1-E795ECAC88B4@earthlink.net> Here you go, Geoff - Hey again, gang... As promised, herewith my (old) breakdown of nearby NYC hotels. Again, the rates have invariably changed since these were tallied, but all the contact info is here, so you should be able to find out without too much trouble. Good luck. Just FYI, for those of who'd want to be situated near the venue, the band is playing at THE FILLMORE @ IRVING PLAZA, which is basically on 15th street. If you can find a place anywhere near Union Square, you're golden. Again, good luck! Cheers, Alex in NYC The Chelsea Lodge --- http://www.chelsealodge.com/index.html The Chelsea Savoy -- http://chelseasavoy.citysearch.vista.com/ (212)-929-9353 Union Square Hotel (14th Street between 2nd & 3rd Ave.) - (212)-614-0500 The Marcel -- http://www.freenewyorkhotelguide.com/marcel-hotel.html Other options: http://www.ny.com/hotels/midwest.html A couple of years back, my favorite band -- KiLlInG JoKe -- played here in NYC, and my fellow `Joke fans from far and wide converged on NYC to see them. Here's some of the hotel info that was bandied about back then (2003). Here's what I've found so far. I'm quite capable of making my own decisions but a little guidance wouldn't go amiss. At the moment Union Square looks favourite. cheers, colesy <> <> <> <<* The Union Square Inn $97.50/night 209 East 14th Street a small boutique hotel with 41 charming rooms, combining a landmark building with modern decor. Close to Midtown and Downtown,>> _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering On Aug 17, 2008, at 11:51 PM, Geoffrey ODonoghue wrote: > Hi all > > I seem to recall that when the forthcoming KJ dates were announced > there was some email traffic here about hotel accommodation in New > York. Could some kind soul please forward the recommendations to me > or point me in the right direction to find them? My family and I are > planning to include a few days in NY in an upcoming US holiday and I > am very keen to find some decent and reasonably priced accommodation. > > Thanks > > Geoff > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Subject: Re: [kj] OT 8 8 88 at 8pm fuckin awesome! big hearty congrats, i got one guinness left in the fridge which i'll raise northwards this eve when the day is done . . . prost! =) On 8/9/08, cliffmonka at alaska.net wrote: > 8 8 1988 at 8pm EST Cliff & Kara were married. Today celebrated our > 20th,still > alive and have not killed each other yet,haha.Jus sharing this with ya,had a > blast > of a ceremony 20 yrs ago,8 horses, fire crazy costumes,and reception Guiness > on tap > 4 bands played lunar bear ensamble with Martin Atkins on the drums,and > WilliamTucker in attendance yelling like a drunken madman with the rest of > us. > Tonight i dj a party for people with disabilities,and we all howl.Cliff > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > -- "due to a lack of trained trumpeters, the end of the world has been postponed indefinitely..." _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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(But hey, look who her daddy is, after all -- Hollyweird and nepotism go hand-in-hand!) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brendan" To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 5:27 PM Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder > Yeah I have to admit I missed the boat a bit with Lost in Translation. > Well protrayed, boring story (IMO). The aquatic thing was quite good fun > though, from memory (was a bit peeled at the time). > >> If _Lost in Translation_ did not have the name "Sofia Coppola" attached >> to it, I honestly believe a) no one would give a damn, and b) at least >> 50% of the critics who found something artsy in the prolonged, >> mind-numbingly slow silences that characterize the movie, would not have >> given it positive reviews. >> >> Just witness Coppola's next project, Marie Antoinette, where she tried >> to give the controversial, cruel woman from french history a hip >> post-punk soundtrack. That one was also bad, and at least by that time >> many critics' star struck "SOFIA COPPOLA!" bias had worn off a bit. >> >> -Oliver >> >> >> Leigh Newton wrote: >>> That's the one he meant and, no, they are both amazing. Damn you. >>> >>> http://www.nightruiner.com >>> http://www.myspace.com/thesunthroughatelescope >>> http://www.myspace.com/lauderdale >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gathering mailing list >> Gathering at misera.net >> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From karen.weil at sddt.com Mon Aug 18 14:15:27 2008 From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 11:15:27 -0700 Subject: [kj] [OT] Quiet at the back! References: <417907.66350.qm@web52602.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <48A64931.8050408@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <4AD6138E230841F1AEDA0AF38DFB1910@edweil> Oh yeah, pure-grade schlock. Gotta love that Alex P. Keaton's in it! : ) k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: "B. Oliver Sheppard" To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 8:27 PM Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Quiet at the back! > Don't you know all the schools in Texas now are like the school in Class > of 1984: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WssZvV5qMKo > > -Oliver > > > sade1 wrote: >> Now when teachers teach the children how to draw a bead it won't be >> to make jewelry during arts n' crafts time, that's for sure. >> > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From a.tolksdorf at yahoo.co.uk Mon Aug 18 14:22:19 2008 From: a.tolksdorf at yahoo.co.uk (Alexandra Tolksdorf) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:22:19 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] Come on then, lets see you . . . 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References: Message-ID: <00f801c90165$87ae6dd0$0100000a@jo> Crap shades; they make me look way too brainy - better than nowt though. http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.addPhotoCaptions&c=4779DBC5-98E2-1256-4273-D7342C71A56E&AlbumID=2232016&c=3E23482B-0811-7770-6D86-D7342C71DDFD Go here: www.faceyourmanga.com Create picture Post it to the list . . . Here is my effort http://lycopodeia.dreamhosters.com/Marc.jpg -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk Mon Aug 18 15:59:00 2008 From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk (ade) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 20:59:00 +0100 Subject: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder Message-ID: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC072149@mr-pants.the-lab.local> It will probably work better over here as we tend to get that they're playing loathsome characters. A lot of our humour seems cruel, but is actually putting up a mirror to nastiness. Check out Brass Eye or The Day Today if you ever get chance. Better still, just keep on censoring, eh. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of blankwerks Sent: 18 August 2008 10:52 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder Again, isn't the inclusion of a clearly white, and not knowedgable about any black issues, actor, blacked up and frankly ludicrous, just part of the story to indicate clearly how out of touch and precious that this bunch of actors are? The whole thing surely is to demonstrate how ridiculously self obsessed and self appreciating this bunch of idiots are, and how they clearly have delusions that their "art" propels them to a status where they are free to comment and judge, and indeed represent by acting any social racial or minority group. You are supposed to be laughing at their ridiculous behaviour and at the fact that they ARE bigoted idiots obsessed only with themselves, not laughing at the word "retard" or the fact that someone has "blacked up". The whole point is that people like this and attitudes like that are outdated and unwanted, and to ridicule people that hold those thoughts and are so dismissive of anyone who doesn't hold the same status as them. You are missing the whole point of those characters - they and their views are the ones that are being ridiculed, not the subjects of their discussion. Plenty of comedy and satirical films and programmes where main characters are used in this way to portray the simple mindedness of the lead character, wouldn't surprise me if the idea of this was lifted by Stiller from the UK version of The Office and more specifically David Brent's treatment and behaviour towards their employee who is a wheelchair user. The whole comedy in those pieces was directed towards the ludicrous views of Brent, and not towards the disabled person. Incidentally, I'm no Stiller fan - but merely because he isn't funny, not because he is some kind of racist disability hating Hollywood star. 2008/8/18 < cliffmonka at alaska.net> not to forget they have a white guy in black face,racist film aswell.they consulted the NAACP but none of the agencies serving people who experience disabilities. Go figure,why would they care if they make fun of a defenseless group,utter cowards these hollywood people are.Completly Fked off,Cliff > Isn't the film also about the ludicrous behaviour of a group of self > obsessed actors? surely their dismissal and mockery of any group is down to > the fact that they are in fact a load of complete wankers only able to think > about themselves? > > I don't plan on seing the film, but I know the general premise is that they > are arseholes who get taught a lesson and re-evaluate themselves. Their use > of the "retard" word just goes to show how out of touch they are. > > Oh and protesting about it will certainly do one thing - gve it more > publicity. And not get the studio to take it off release. > > > 2008/8/18 < cliffmonka at alaska.net> > >> Hiya ok here's a tv news story and daily news article from the protest >> boycotting >> the film Tropic Thunder we did on saturday,Peace,Cliff >> >> http://www.ktuu.com/Global/story.asp?S=8853261 >> >> http://www.adn.com/arts/story/496381.html >> >> >> > http://www.adn.com/arts/story/496381.html >> > >> > >> >> Terrific article by Tim Shriver... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *What 'Tropic Thunder' Thinks Is Funny* >> >> By Timothy Shriver >> >> Monday, August 11, 2008; A15 >> >> >> >> I've been told = to keep my sense of humor about the film "Tropic >> Thunder," >> >> which opens = this week. Despite my requests, I have not been given the >> chance >> >> to see = the movie. But I've seen previews, read about it and read >> excerpts = of >> >> the script. By all accounts, it is an unchecked assault on the = >> humanity of >> >> people with intellectual disabilities -- an affront to = dignity, hope >> and >> >> respect. >> >> >> >> Consider this exchange: >> >> >> >> Ben = Stiller's character: "There were times when I was doing Jack when >> = I >> >> actually felt retarded. Like really retarded." >> >> >> >> Robert Downey = Jr.'s character: "Oh yeah. Damn." >> >> >> >> Stiller: "In a weird way, I had = to sort of just free myself up to >> believe >> >> that it was okay to be stupid = or dumb." >> >> >> >> Downey: "To be a moron." >> >> >> >> Stiller: "Yeah." >> >> >> >> At= another point, about acting like a person with intellectual >> disabilities,<= >> >> BR>they say: >> >> >> >> Stiller: "It's what we do, right?" >> >> >> >> Downey: = "Everybody knows you never do a full retard." >> >> >> >> Stiller: "What do you = mean?" >> >> >> >> Downey: "Check it out. Dustin Hoffman, 'Rain Man,' look = retarded, act >> >> retarded, not retarded. Count toothpicks to your cards. = Autistic, >> sure. Not >> >> retarded. You know Tom Hanks, 'Forrest Gump.' Slow, = yes. Retarded, >> maybe. >> >> Braces on his legs. But he charmed the pants off = Nixon and won a >> ping-pong >> >> competition. That ain't retarded. You went = full retard, man. Never go >> full >> >> retard." >> >> >> >> I worked with the = Farrelly brothers on a film on this topic. I know >> about >> >> edgy comedy. = I'm also told that movies are equal-opportunity >> offenders. >> >> >> >> So = here's an equal-opportunity response to the equal-opportunity >> offenders: >> >> People with intellectual disabilities are routinely abused, neglected,= >> >> insulted, institutionalized and even killed around the world. Their = >> parents >> >> are told to give up, that their children are worthless. Schools = turn >> them >> >> away. Doctors refuse to treat them. Employers won't hire = them. None of >> this >> >> is funny. >> >> >> >> For centuries, they have been the = exception to the most basic >> spiritual >> >> principle: that we are each equal = in spirit, capable of reflecting the >> >> goodness of the divine, carriers = of love. But not people with >> intellectual >> >> disabilities. What's a word = commonly applied to them? Hopeless. >> >> >> >> Let's consider where we are in = 2008. Our politics are about overcoming >> >> division, our social movements = are about ending intolerance, our great >> >> philanthropists promote ending = poverty and disease among the world's >> poor. >> >> Are people with intellectual= disabilities included in the mainstream of >> >> these movements? For the = most part, no. >> >> >> >> Why? Because they're different. Their joy doesn't = fit on magazine >> covers. >> >> Their spirituality doesn't come in self-help = television. Their kind of >> >> wealth doesn't command political attention. = (The best of the spirit >> never >> >> does.) >> >> >> >> Sadly, they're such an easy = target that many people don't realize whom >> they >> >> are making fun of when = they use the word "retard." Most people just >> think >> >> it's funny. "Stupid, = idiot, moron, retard." Ha, ha, ha. >> >> >> >> I know: I could be too sensitive.= But I was taught that mean isn't >> funny. >> >> And I've been to institutions = where people with intellectual >> disabilities >> >> are tied to beds or lie on = concrete floors, forgotten. I've heard >> doctors >> >> say they won't treat = them. I know Gallup found that more than 60 >> percent of >> >> Americans don't = want a person with an intellectual disability at their >> >> child's = school. >> >> >> >> I've talked to people with intellectual disabilities who = cry over >> being >> >> insulted on a bus. I've received too many e-mails from = people who are >> >> devastated not by their child's disability but by the = terror of being >> >> laughed at, excluded and economically devastated. >> >> It wasn't funny when Hollywood humiliated African Americans for a >> >> gener= ation. It's never funny when good and decent human beings are >> >> humiliated= . In fact, it is dangerous and disgusting. >> >> >> >> This film is all that = and more. DreamWorks went so far as to create a >> >> mini-version of Simple = Jack and posted it online. The studio has since >> >> pulled it down, = realizing it had gone too far, even in an age of edgy, >> >> R-rated = comedies. >> >> >> >> So, enough. Stop the hurtful jokes. Talk to your children = about >> language >> >> that is bullying and mean. Ask your friends, your = educators, your >> religious >> >> leaders to help us to end the stubborn myth = that people with >> intellectual >> >> disabilities are hopeless. Ask Hollywood = to get on the right side of >> >> dignity. >> >> >> >> I hope others will join me = in shutting this movie out of our lives and >> our >> >> pocketbooks. We don't = live in times when labeling and humiliating >> others is >> >> funny. And we = should send that message far and wide. >> >> >> >> *The writer is chairman of = Special Olympics and a columnist for >> >> washingtonpost.com's On Faith = discussion site.* >> >> >> >> >> >>> It's received mostly good reviews: >> >>> >> >>> http://www.metacritic.com/film/titles/tropicthunder >> >>> >> >>> That's a great website, btw. >> >>> >> >>> -Oliver >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> folk devil wrote: >> >>>> not sure i really want to....too many 'war' films...and a haha to bang >> >>>> bang doesn't really work for me at the mo.. >> >>>> >> >>>> /"/ >> >>>> >> >>>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >>>> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:42:20 -0700 >> >>>> From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com >> >>>> To: gathering at misera.net >> >>>> Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder >> >>>> >> >>>> Anyone seen the movie yet? >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> ... ... ... ... ... ... >> >>>> >> >>>> /*[looking at the current state of things]*/ >> >>>> >> >>>> 'Save me... >> >>>> save me from Tomorrow.. >> >>>> I don't want to /sail //in this Ship Of Fools...!' / >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >>>> Your PC, mobile phone, and online services work together like never >> >>>> before. 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Here is my effort http://lycopodeia.dreamhosters.com/Marc.jpg _________________________________________________________________ See what people are saying about Windows Live. Check out featured posts. http://www.windowslive.com/connect?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_connect2_082008 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From blankwerks at gmail.com Mon Aug 18 16:45:40 2008 From: blankwerks at gmail.com (blankwerks) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:45:40 +0100 Subject: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder In-Reply-To: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC072149@mr-pants.the-lab.local> References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC072149@mr-pants.the-lab.local> Message-ID: Bang on. And citing Chris Morris - much better than my effort. Would love to see how the Brasseye Pedophilia episode would go down in the States. 2008/8/18 ade > It will probably work better over here as we tend to get that they're > playing loathsome characters. A lot of our humour seems cruel, but is > actually putting up a mirror to nastiness. Check out Brass Eye or The Day > Today if you ever get chance. > > Better still, just keep on censoring, eh. > > -----Original Message----- > *From:* gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] > *On Behalf Of *blankwerks > *Sent:* 18 August 2008 10:52 > *To:* A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) > *Subject:* Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder > > Again, isn't the inclusion of a clearly white, and not knowedgable about > any black issues, actor, blacked up and frankly ludicrous, just part of the > story to indicate clearly how out of touch and precious that this bunch of > actors are? > > The whole thing surely is to demonstrate how ridiculously self obsessed and > self appreciating this bunch of idiots are, and how they clearly have > delusions that their "art" propels them to a status where they are free to > comment and judge, and indeed represent by acting any social racial or > minority group. > > You are supposed to be laughing at their ridiculous behaviour and at the > fact that they ARE bigoted idiots obsessed only with themselves, not > laughing at the word "retard" or the fact that someone has "blacked up". The > whole point is that people like this and attitudes like that are outdated > and unwanted, and to ridicule people that hold those thoughts and are so > dismissive of anyone who doesn't hold the same status as them. > > You are missing the whole point of those characters - they and their views > are the ones that are being ridiculed, not the subjects of their discussion. > Plenty of comedy and satirical films and programmes where main characters > are used in this way to portray the simple mindedness of the lead character, > wouldn't surprise me if the idea of this was lifted by Stiller from the UK > version of The Office and more specifically David Brent's treatment and > behaviour towards their employee who is a wheelchair user. The whole comedy > in those pieces was directed towards the ludicrous views of Brent, and not > towards the disabled person. > > Incidentally, I'm no Stiller fan - but merely because he isn't funny, not > because he is some kind of racist disability hating Hollywood star. > > 2008/8/18 > >> not to forget they have a white guy in black face,racist film aswell.they >> consulted >> the NAACP but none of the agencies serving people who experience >> disabilities. >> Go figure,why would they care if they make fun of a defenseless >> group,utter cowards >> these hollywood people are.Completly Fked off,Cliff >> >> >> > Isn't the film also about the ludicrous behaviour of a group of self >> > obsessed actors? surely their dismissal and mockery of any group is down >> to >> > the fact that they are in fact a load of complete wankers only able to >> think >> > about themselves? >> > >> > I don't plan on seing the film, but I know the general premise is that >> they >> > are arseholes who get taught a lesson and re-evaluate themselves. Their >> use >> > of the "retard" word just goes to show how out of touch they are. >> > >> > Oh and protesting about it will certainly do one thing - gve it more >> > publicity. And not get the studio to take it off release. >> > >> > >> > 2008/8/18 >> > >> >> Hiya ok here's a tv news story and daily news article from the protest >> >> boycotting >> >> the film Tropic Thunder we did on saturday,Peace,Cliff >> >> >> >> http://www.ktuu.com/Global/story.asp?S=8853261 >> >> >> >> http://www.adn.com/arts/story/496381.html >> >> >> >> >> >> > http://www.adn.com/arts/story/496381.html >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> Terrific article by Tim Shriver... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *What 'Tropic Thunder' Thinks Is Funny* >> >> >> By Timothy Shriver >> >> >> Monday, August 11, 2008; A15 >> >> >> >> >> >> I've been told = to keep my sense of humor about the film "Tropic >> >> Thunder," >> >> >> which opens = this week. Despite my requests, I have not been given >> the >> >> chance >> >> >> to see = the movie. But I've seen previews, read about it and read >> >> excerpts = of >> >> >> the script. By all accounts, it is an unchecked assault on the = >> >> humanity of >> >> >> people with intellectual disabilities -- an affront to = dignity, >> hope >> >> and >> >> >> respect. >> >> >> >> >> >> Consider this exchange: >> >> >> >> >> >> Ben = Stiller's character: "There were times when I was doing Jack >> when >> >> = I >> >> >> actually felt retarded. Like really retarded." >> >> >> >> >> >> Robert Downey = Jr.'s character: "Oh yeah. Damn." >> >> >> >> >> >> Stiller: "In a weird way, I had = to sort of just free myself up to >> >> believe >> >> >> that it was okay to be stupid = or dumb." >> >> >> >> >> >> Downey: "To be a moron." >> >> >> >> >> >> Stiller: "Yeah." >> >> >> >> >> >> At= another point, about acting like a person with intellectual >> >> disabilities,<= >> >> >> BR>they say: >> >> >> >> >> >> Stiller: "It's what we do, right?" >> >> >> >> >> >> Downey: = "Everybody knows you never do a full retard." >> >> >> >> >> >> Stiller: "What do you = mean?" >> >> >> >> >> >> Downey: "Check it out. Dustin Hoffman, 'Rain Man,' look = retarded, >> act >> >> >> retarded, not retarded. Count toothpicks to your cards. = Autistic, >> >> sure. Not >> >> >> retarded. You know Tom Hanks, 'Forrest Gump.' Slow, = yes. Retarded, >> >> maybe. >> >> >> Braces on his legs. But he charmed the pants off = Nixon and won a >> >> ping-pong >> >> >> competition. That ain't retarded. You went = full retard, man. Never >> go >> >> full >> >> >> retard." >> >> >> >> >> >> I worked with the = Farrelly brothers on a film on this topic. I >> know >> >> about >> >> >> edgy comedy. = I'm also told that movies are equal-opportunity >> >> offenders. >> >> >> >> >> >> So = here's an equal-opportunity response to the equal-opportunity >> >> offenders: >> >> >> People with intellectual disabilities are routinely abused, >> neglected,= >> >> >> insulted, institutionalized and even killed around the world. Their >> = >> >> parents >> >> >> are told to give up, that their children are worthless. Schools = >> turn >> >> them >> >> >> away. Doctors refuse to treat them. Employers won't hire = them. >> None of >> >> this >> >> >> is funny. >> >> >> >> >> >> For centuries, they have been the = exception to the most basic >> >> spiritual >> >> >> principle: that we are each equal = in spirit, capable of reflecting >> the >> >> >> goodness of the divine, carriers = of love. But not people with >> >> intellectual >> >> >> disabilities. What's a word = commonly applied to them? Hopeless. >> >> >> >> >> >> Let's consider where we are in = 2008. Our politics are about >> overcoming >> >> >> division, our social movements = are about ending intolerance, our >> great >> >> >> philanthropists promote ending = poverty and disease among the >> world's >> >> poor. >> >> >> Are people with intellectual= disabilities included in the >> mainstream of >> >> >> these movements? For the = most part, no. >> >> >> >> >> >> Why? Because they're different. Their joy doesn't = fit on magazine >> >> covers. >> >> >> Their spirituality doesn't come in self-help = television. Their >> kind of >> >> >> wealth doesn't command political attention. = (The best of the >> spirit >> >> never >> >> >> does.) >> >> >> >> >> >> Sadly, they're such an easy = target that many people don't realize >> whom >> >> they >> >> >> are making fun of when = they use the word "retard." Most people >> just >> >> think >> >> >> it's funny. "Stupid, = idiot, moron, retard." Ha, ha, ha. >> >> >> >> >> >> I know: I could be too sensitive.= But I was taught that mean isn't >> >> funny. >> >> >> And I've been to institutions = where people with intellectual >> >> disabilities >> >> >> are tied to beds or lie on = concrete floors, forgotten. I've heard >> >> doctors >> >> >> say they won't treat = them. I know Gallup found that more than 60 >> >> percent of >> >> >> Americans don't = want a person with an intellectual disability at >> their >> >> >> child's = school. >> >> >> >> >> >> I've talked to people with intellectual disabilities who = cry over >> >> being >> >> >> insulted on a bus. I've received too many e-mails from = people who >> are >> >> >> devastated not by their child's disability but by the = terror of >> being >> >> >> laughed at, excluded and economically devastated. >> >> >> It wasn't funny when Hollywood humiliated African Americans for a >> >> >> gener= ation. It's never funny when good and decent human beings are >> >> >> humiliated= . In fact, it is dangerous and disgusting. >> >> >> >> >> >> This film is all that = and more. DreamWorks went so far as to >> create a >> >> >> mini-version of Simple = Jack and posted it online. The studio has >> since >> >> >> pulled it down, = realizing it had gone too far, even in an age of >> edgy, >> >> >> R-rated = comedies. >> >> >> >> >> >> So, enough. Stop the hurtful jokes. Talk to your children = about >> >> language >> >> >> that is bullying and mean. Ask your friends, your = educators, your >> >> religious >> >> >> leaders to help us to end the stubborn myth = that people with >> >> intellectual >> >> >> disabilities are hopeless. Ask Hollywood = to get on the right side >> of >> >> >> dignity. >> >> >> >> >> >> I hope others will join me = in shutting this movie out of our lives >> and >> >> our >> >> >> pocketbooks. We don't = live in times when labeling and humiliating >> >> others is >> >> >> funny. And we = should send that message far and wide. >> >> >> >> >> >> *The writer is chairman of = Special Olympics and a columnist for >> >> >> washingtonpost.com's On Faith = discussion site.* >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> It's received mostly good reviews: >> >> >>> >> >> >>> http://www.metacritic.com/film/titles/tropicthunder >> >> >>> >> >> >>> That's a great website, btw. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> -Oliver >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> folk devil wrote: >> >> >>>> not sure i really want to....too many 'war' films...and a haha to >> bang >> >> >>>> bang doesn't really work for me at the mo.. >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> /"/ >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >>>> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:42:20 -0700 >> >> >>>> From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com >> >> >>>> To: gathering at misera.net >> >> >>>> Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> Anyone seen the movie yet? >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> ... ... ... ... ... ... >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> /*[looking at the current state of things]*/ >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> 'Save me... >> >> >>>> save me from Tomorrow.. >> >> >>>> I don't want to /sail //in this Ship Of Fools...!' / >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >>>> Your PC, mobile phone, and online services work together like >> never >> >> >>>> before. 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URL: From folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com Mon Aug 18 16:51:16 2008 From: folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com (folk devil) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 13:51:16 -0700 Subject: [kj] the film Tropic Thunder In-Reply-To: References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC072149@mr-pants.the-lab.local> Message-ID: let's see.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NesjvRihbEg :D Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:45:40 +0100From: blankwerks at gmail.comTo: gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder Bang on.And citing Chris Morris - much better than my effort.Would love to see how the Brasseye Pedophilia episode would go down in the States. 2008/8/18 ade It will probably work better over here as we tend to get that they're playing loathsome characters. A lot of our humour seems cruel, but is actually putting up a mirror to nastiness. Check out Brass Eye or The Day Today if you ever get chance. 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Oliver Sheppard) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:55:15 -0500 Subject: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder In-Reply-To: References: <33022.72.42.164.101.1218704614.squirrel@mymail.acsalaska.net> <694329.50875.qm@web52608.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <48A4B603.5040509@sbcglobal.net> <32988.72.42.164.101.1218766622.squirrel@mymail.acsalaska.net> <32798.72.42.164.101.1219031271.squirrel@mymail.acsalaska.net> <33098.72.42.164.101.1219046599.squirrel@mymail.acsalaska.net> Message-ID: <48A9E1B3.9050206@sbcglobal.net> Here is my take on the Tropic Thunder thing: I am sympathetic to the spirit of Cliff's protest. Standing up for the disabled and handicapped and being the voice of the voiceless, protecting the most vulnerable members of society from ridicule and disparagement, is an honorable thing. However, there was a similar outpouring of protest over Clint Eastwood's award-winning movie _Million-Dollar Baby_. Eastwood has an unflattering history as someone who opposed implementing wheelchair ramps and other accommodations into some hotels he owned, ordered by the US government under the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA). Eastwood's outspokenness on why he should NOT have to accomodate handicapped persons earned him no friends in the disabled community and others, and it wasn't the man's finest moment in the media. It seemed like some craggy-faced hero of old Westerns was overdoing his John Wayne shtick and picking on disabled people, when he obviously has money to put in some fucking wheelchair ramps if he needs to, isntead of being some swaggering, "survival of the fittest" type of tough guy, which is how he was coming off. But he said the government has no business trying to make him accommodate disabled people. He came off as a jerk of the first order. Then Eastwood directed _Million Dollar Baby_, about a prize-winning female boxer who becomes disabled, and Eastwood's character in the film decides the only noble thing to do is kill her through euthanasia. On the surface, this seems like a ballsy move for Eastwood given the controversy he'd just been embroiled in: Here's Eastwood, who was ranting about having to accommodate disabled folks, making and starring in a movie where he "mercifully" kills a disabled woman, to put her out of her misery. Disability activist groups were outraged. However, I saw the film, and the film has nearly zero bearing on any of Eastwood's personal politics, and seems worlds removed from anything like that. The logic and power of the story in _Million-Dollar Baby_ is such that the movie seems completely separate from any external politicizing "in the real world," and was a deeply moving, heartfelt, emotional piece that was actually extremely humanistic. It wasn't a pro- or anti- position paper. It was simply an individual story. I didn't think it was worth a boycott. From what I understand, Tropic Thunder consists of a bunch of self-obsessed, smug, arrogant Hollywood jerks, none of whom are sympathetic. That one of them says the word "retard" could be further evidence of the character's assholian-ness. All of the reviews I've seen of the film say none of the main characters are likable, as self-obsessed and arrogant as they are. That is supposed to be part of the point... -Oliver blankwerks wrote: > Isn't the film also about the ludicrous behaviour of a group of self > obsessed actors? surely their dismissal and mockery of any group is > down to the fact that they are in fact a load of complete wankers only > able to think about themselves? > > I don't plan on seing the film, but I know the general premise is that > they are arseholes who get taught a lesson and re-evaluate themselves. > Their use of the "retard" word just goes to show how out of touch they > are. > > Oh and protesting about it will certainly do one thing - gve it more > publicity. And not get the studio to take it off release. > > > 2008/8/18 > > > Hiya ok here's a tv news story and daily news article from the > protest boycotting > the film Tropic Thunder we did on saturday,Peace,Cliff > > http://www.ktuu.com/Global/story.asp?S=8853261 > > http://www.adn.com/arts/story/496381.html > From ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk Mon Aug 18 16:59:48 2008 From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk (ade) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:59:48 +0100 Subject: [kj] the film Tropic Thunder Message-ID: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC07214D@mr-pants.the-lab.local> It's Paedogeddon !!!!!!! -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: 18 August 2008 21:51 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] the film Tropic Thunder let's see.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NesjvRihbEg :D _____ Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:45:40 +0100 From: blankwerks at gmail.com To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder Bang on. And citing Chris Morris - much better than my effort. Would love to see how the Brasseye Pedophilia episode would go down in the States. 2008/8/18 ade < ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk> It will probably work better over here as we tend to get that they're playing loathsome characters. A lot of our humour seems cruel, but is actually putting up a mirror to nastiness. Check out Brass Eye or The Day Today if you ever get chance. Better still, just keep on censoring, eh. _____ Be the filmmaker you always wanted to be?learn how to burn a DVD with Windows?. Make your smash hit -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Create your own Avatar for free2. Buy online in a "safe-way" with PayPal3. Download your Avatar and print it! Copyright 2008 ?? P.IVA 04585270657 | www.faceyourmanga.com _________________________________________________________________ Win New York holidays with Kellogg?s & Live Search http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/107571440/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From blankwerks at gmail.com Mon Aug 18 17:27:50 2008 From: blankwerks at gmail.com (blankwerks) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:27:50 +0100 Subject: [kj] the film Tropic Thunder In-Reply-To: References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC072149@mr-pants.the-lab.local> Message-ID: Quality. Did you watch Jam too? that was almost too much. 2008/8/18 folk devil > let's see.. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NesjvRihbEg > > :D > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:45:40 +0100 > From: blankwerks at gmail.com > To: gathering at misera.net > Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder > > > Bang on. > > And citing Chris Morris - much better than my effort. > > Would love to see how the Brasseye Pedophilia episode would go down in the > States. > > 2008/8/18 ade > > It will probably work better over here as we tend to get that they're > playing loathsome characters. A lot of our humour seems cruel, but is > actually putting up a mirror to nastiness. Check out Brass Eye or The Day > Today if you ever get chance. > > Better still, just keep on censoring, eh. > > > > > ------------------------------ > Be the filmmaker you always wanted to be?learn how to burn a DVD with > Windows(R). Make your smash hit > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk Mon Aug 18 17:33:38 2008 From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk (ade) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:33:38 +0100 Subject: [kj] the film Tropic Thunder Message-ID: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC07214E@mr-pants.the-lab.local> "Of course she didn't mean anything to me, I was only raping her..." Oh & asking the plumber to fix the dead baby. Fucking hell ! -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of blankwerks Sent: 18 August 2008 22:28 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] the film Tropic Thunder Quality. Did you watch Jam too? that was almost too much. 2008/8/18 folk devil < folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com> let's see.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NesjvRihbEg :D _____ Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:45:40 +0100 From: blankwerks at gmail.com To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder Bang on. And citing Chris Morris - much better than my effort. Would love to see how the Brasseye Pedophilia episode would go down in the States. 2008/8/18 ade < ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk> It will probably work better over here as we tend to get that they're playing loathsome characters. A lot of our humour seems cruel, but is actually putting up a mirror to nastiness. Check out Brass Eye or The Day Today if you ever get chance. Better still, just keep on censoring, eh. _____ Be the filmmaker you always wanted to be?learn how to burn a DVD with Windows?. Make your smash hit _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From blankwerks at gmail.com Mon Aug 18 17:36:02 2008 From: blankwerks at gmail.com (blankwerks) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:36:02 +0100 Subject: [kj] the film Tropic Thunder In-Reply-To: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC07214E@mr-pants.the-lab.local> References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC07214E@mr-pants.the-lab.local> Message-ID: So close to the edge of what is actually bearable. Don't think anyone else could get away with it. 2008/8/18 ade > "Of course she didn't mean anything to me, I was only raping her..." > > Oh & asking the plumber to fix the dead baby. Fucking hell ! > > -----Original Message----- > *From:* gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] > *On Behalf Of *blankwerks > *Sent:* 18 August 2008 22:28 > *To:* A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) > *Subject:* Re: [kj] the film Tropic Thunder > > Quality. > > Did you watch Jam too? that was almost too much. > > 2008/8/18 folk devil > >> let's see.. >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NesjvRihbEg >> >> :D >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:45:40 +0100 >> From: blankwerks at gmail.com >> To: gathering at misera.net >> Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder >> >> >> Bang on. >> >> And citing Chris Morris - much better than my effort. >> >> Would love to see how the Brasseye Pedophilia episode would go down in the >> States. >> >> 2008/8/18 ade >> >> It will probably work better over here as we tend to get that they're >> playing loathsome characters. A lot of our humour seems cruel, but is >> actually putting up a mirror to nastiness. Check out Brass Eye or The Day >> Today if you ever get chance. >> >> Better still, just keep on censoring, eh. >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> Be the filmmaker you always wanted to be?learn how to burn a DVD with >> Windows(R). Make your smash hit >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gathering mailing list >> Gathering at misera.net >> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mikraven at o2.co.uk Mon Aug 18 17:37:56 2008 From: mikraven at o2.co.uk (Mik Raven) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:37:56 +0100 Subject: [kj] Face Your Manga Message-ID: <00b301c9017a$ad98a5f0$eb01650a@ptgint.com> So here?s my attempt. Scarily true to life, but not quite as scary as Marcs! Lol. Here is your Avatar Right click on the image and then save as from the menu to download it. If the image should not be correctly visualized, you can download it as an attachment from this e-mail. Face Your Manga Team welcomes you to our world. Per salvare l'immagine: Tasto destro poi clicca su "Salva immagine con nome". Face Your Manga gives you a chance yo give originality and style to your World: create and print your face, turn it in a work of art and amaze all with an original gift. Buy quickly: 1. Create your own Avatar for free 2. Buy online in a "safe-way" with PayPal 3. Download your Avatar and print it! Copyright 2008 ?? P.IVA 04585270657 | www.faceyourmanga.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hollytree1961 at hotmail.com Mon Aug 18 17:42:56 2008 From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com (melinda grant) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:42:56 +0100 Subject: [kj] Face Your Manga In-Reply-To: <00b301c9017a$ad98a5f0$eb01650a@ptgint.com> References: <00b301c9017a$ad98a5f0$eb01650a@ptgint.com> Message-ID: that almost looks like you,except your hair is lighter in person----my hair is longer and lighter in person-- and my chin is never that pointed lol lol----we both look like hippys ;D)))) lol From: mikraven at o2.co.ukTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:37:56 +0100Subject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga So here?s my attempt. Scarily true to life, but not quite as scary as Marcs! Lol. Here is your AvatarRight click on the image and then save as from the menu to download it. If the image should not be correctly visualized, you can download it as an attachment from this e-mail. Face Your Manga Team welcomes you to our world. Face Your Manga gives you a chance yo give originality and style to your World: create and print your face, turn it in a work of art and amaze all with an original gift.Buy quickly:1. Create your own Avatar for free2. Buy online in a "safe-way" with PayPal3. Download your Avatar and print it! Copyright 2008 ?? P.IVA 04585270657 | www.faceyourmanga.com _________________________________________________________________ Get Hotmail on your mobile from Vodafone http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/107571435/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk Mon Aug 18 17:44:31 2008 From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk (ade) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:44:31 +0100 Subject: [kj] the film Tropic Thunder Message-ID: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC07214F@mr-pants.the-lab.local> Watching Sky News yesterday, the news guy was on at some Russian diplomat & he demanded "Are you willing to go to war with the west over this?" It's Your War. Bang after bang after bang after bang... -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of blankwerks Sent: 18 August 2008 22:36 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] the film Tropic Thunder So close to the edge of what is actually bearable. Don't think anyone else could get away with it. 2008/8/18 ade < ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk> "Of course she didn't mean anything to me, I was only raping her..." Oh & asking the plumber to fix the dead baby. Fucking hell ! -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto: gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of blankwerks Sent: 18 August 2008 22:28 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] the film Tropic Thunder Quality. Did you watch Jam too? that was almost too much. 2008/8/18 folk devil < folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com> let's see.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NesjvRihbEg :D _____ Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:45:40 +0100 From: blankwerks at gmail.com To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder Bang on. And citing Chris Morris - much better than my effort. Would love to see how the Brasseye Pedophilia episode would go down in the States. 2008/8/18 ade < ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk> It will probably work better over here as we tend to get that they're playing loathsome characters. A lot of our humour seems cruel, but is actually putting up a mirror to nastiness. Check out Brass Eye or The Day Today if you ever get chance. Better still, just keep on censoring, eh. _____ Be the filmmaker you always wanted to be?learn how to burn a DVD with Windows?. Make your smash hit _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mikraven at o2.co.uk Mon Aug 18 17:45:34 2008 From: mikraven at o2.co.uk (Mik Raven) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:45:34 +0100 Subject: [kj] Face Your Manga In-Reply-To: References: <00b301c9017a$ad98a5f0$eb01650a@ptgint.com> Message-ID: <00c701c9017b$beb751a0$eb01650a@ptgint.com> Ooops! Forgot to lighten the hair. That was my second one, the first didn?t come through. I did make the hair lighter 1st time, but there was no option for grey highlights! :-) _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of melinda grant Sent: 18 August 2008 22:43 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga that almost looks like you,except your hair is lighter in person----my hair is longer and lighter in person-- and my chin is never that pointed lol lol----we both look like hippys ;D)))) lol _____ From: mikraven at o2.co.uk To: gathering at misera.net Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:37:56 +0100 Subject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga So here?s my attempt. Scarily true to life, but not quite as scary as Marcs! Lol. Here is your Avatar Right click on the image and then save as from the menu to download it. If the image should not be correctly visualized, you can download it as an attachment from this e-mail. Face Your Manga Team welcomes you to our world. Per salvare l'immagine: Tasto destro poi clicca su "Salva immagine con nome". Face Your Manga gives you a chance yo give originality and style to your World: create and print your face, turn it in a work of art and amaze all with an original gift. Buy quickly: 1. Create your own Avatar for free 2. Buy online in a "safe-way" with PayPal 3. Download your Avatar and print it! Copyright 2008 ?? P.IVA 04585270657 | www.faceyourmanga.com _____ Find out how to make Messenger your very own TV! Try it Now! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk Mon Aug 18 17:46:29 2008 From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk (ade) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:46:29 +0100 Subject: [kj] Face Your Manga Message-ID: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC072150@mr-pants.the-lab.local> You're MUCH lovelier than that Mik. That made me wilt. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Mik Raven Sent: 18 August 2008 22:38 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga So here's my attempt. Scarily true to life, but not quite as scary as Marcs! Lol. Here is your Avatar Right click on the image and then save as from the menu to download it. If the image should not be correctly visualized, you can download it as an attachment from this e-mail. Face Your Manga Team welcomes you to our world. Per salvare l'immagine: Tasto destro poi clicca su "Salva immagine con nome". Face Your Manga gives you a chance yo give originality and style to your World: create and print your face, turn it in a work of art and amaze all with an original gift. Buy quickly: 1. Create your own Avatar for free 2. Buy online in a "safe-way" with PayPal 3. Download your Avatar and print it! Copyright 2008 ?? 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Scarily true to life, but not quite as scary as Marcs! Lol. Here is your AvatarRight click on the image and then save as from the menu to download it. If the image should not be correctly visualized, you can download it as an attachment from this e-mail. Face Your Manga Team welcomes you to our world. Face Your Manga gives you a chance yo give originality and style to your World: create and print your face, turn it in a work of art and amaze all with an original gift.Buy quickly:1. Create your own Avatar for free2. Buy online in a "safe-way" with PayPal3. Download your Avatar and print it! Copyright 2008 ?? P.IVA 04585270657 | www.faceyourmanga.com Find out how to make Messenger your very own TV! Try it Now! _________________________________________________________________ Win New York holidays with Kellogg?s & Live Search http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/107571440/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mikraven at o2.co.uk Mon Aug 18 17:48:57 2008 From: mikraven at o2.co.uk (Mik Raven) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:48:57 +0100 Subject: [kj] Face Your Manga In-Reply-To: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC072150@mr-pants.the-lab.local> References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC072150@mr-pants.the-lab.local> Message-ID: <00de01c9017c$377fbaa0$eb01650a@ptgint.com> Forgotten to take your blue pills again eh? _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of ade Sent: 18 August 2008 22:46 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga You're MUCH lovelier than that Mik. That made me wilt. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Mik Raven Sent: 18 August 2008 22:38 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga So here?s my attempt. Scarily true to life, but not quite as scary as Marcs! Lol. Here is your Avatar Right click on the image and then save as from the menu to download it. If the image should not be correctly visualized, you can download it as an attachment from this e-mail. Face Your Manga Team welcomes you to our world. Per salvare l'immagine: Tasto destro poi clicca su "Salva immagine con nome". Face Your Manga gives you a chance yo give originality and style to your World: create and print your face, turn it in a work of art and amaze all with an original gift. Buy quickly: 1. Create your own Avatar for free 2. Buy online in a "safe-way" with PayPal 3. Download your Avatar and print it! Copyright 2008 ?? P.IVA 04585270657 | www.faceyourmanga.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tabazan at gmail.com Mon Aug 18 17:49:35 2008 From: tabazan at gmail.com (Tabazan) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:49:35 +0100 Subject: [kj] Face Your Manga In-Reply-To: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC072150@mr-pants.the-lab.local> References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC072150@mr-pants.the-lab.local> Message-ID: <4881fb6c0808181449h3a97c103n2500d40d1ba7edc4@mail.gmail.com> >You're MUCH lovelier than that Mik You never say that about me :( I think Mik has finally put weight on . . On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 10:46 PM, ade wrote: > You're MUCH lovelier than that Mik. That made me wilt. > > -----Original Message----- > *From:* gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] > *On Behalf Of *Mik Raven > *Sent:* 18 August 2008 22:38 > *To:* gathering at misera.net > *Subject:* Re: [kj] Face Your Manga > > So here's my attempt. Scarily true to life, but not quite as scary as > Marcs! Lol. > > > > > > > > > *Here is your Avatar* > Right click on the image and then save as from the menu to download it. If > the image should not be correctly visualized, you can download it as an > attachment from this e-mail. > > Face Your Manga Team welcomes you to our world. > > [image: Per salvare l'immagine: Tasto destro poi clicca su "Salva immagine > con nome".] > > > > > > > > > Face Your Manga gives you a chance yo give originality and style to your > World: create and print your face, turn it in a work of art and amaze all > with an original gift. > > *Buy quickly:* > *1.* Create your own Avatar for free > *2.* Buy online in a "safe-way" with PayPal > *3.* Download your Avatar and print it! > > > > > Copyright 2008 (c) P.IVA 04585270657 | www.faceyourmanga.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > -- www.myspace.com/lycopodeiauk www.lycopodeia.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk Mon Aug 18 17:53:26 2008 From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk (ade) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:53:26 +0100 Subject: [kj] Face Your Manga Message-ID: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC072151@mr-pants.the-lab.local> I'm yet to see any, ahem, photos... I have an extensive collection of Mik in the shower shots. You'd better catch-up sonny! -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Tabazan Sent: 18 August 2008 22:50 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga >You're MUCH lovelier than that Mik You never say that about me :( I think Mik has finally put weight on . . On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 10:46 PM, ade < ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk> wrote: You're MUCH lovelier than that Mik. That made me wilt. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto: gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Mik Raven Sent: 18 August 2008 22:38 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga So here's my attempt. Scarily true to life, but not quite as scary as Marcs! Lol. Here is your Avatar Right click on the image and then save as from the menu to download it. If the image should not be correctly visualized, you can download it as an attachment from this e-mail. Face Your Manga Team welcomes you to our world. Per salvare l'immagine: Tasto destro poi clicca su "Salva immagine con nome". Face Your Manga gives you a chance yo give originality and style to your World: create and print your face, turn it in a work of art and amaze all with an original gift. Buy quickly: 1. Create your own Avatar for free 2. Buy online in a "safe-way" with PayPal 3. Download your Avatar and print it! Copyright 2008 ? P.IVA 04585270657 | www.faceyourmanga.com _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -- www.myspace.com/lycopodeiauk www.lycopodeia.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk Mon Aug 18 17:53:45 2008 From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk (ade) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:53:45 +0100 Subject: [kj] Face Your Manga Message-ID: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC072152@mr-pants.the-lab.local> > I think Mik has finally put weight on . . I thought that too! -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Tabazan Sent: 18 August 2008 22:50 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga >You're MUCH lovelier than that Mik You never say that about me :( I think Mik has finally put weight on . . On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 10:46 PM, ade < ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk> wrote: You're MUCH lovelier than that Mik. That made me wilt. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto: gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Mik Raven Sent: 18 August 2008 22:38 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga So here's my attempt. Scarily true to life, but not quite as scary as Marcs! Lol. Here is your Avatar Right click on the image and then save as from the menu to download it. If the image should not be correctly visualized, you can download it as an attachment from this e-mail. Face Your Manga Team welcomes you to our world. Per salvare l'immagine: Tasto destro poi clicca su "Salva immagine con nome". Face Your Manga gives you a chance yo give originality and style to your World: create and print your face, turn it in a work of art and amaze all with an original gift. Buy quickly: 1. Create your own Avatar for free 2. Buy online in a "safe-way" with PayPal 3. Download your Avatar and print it! Copyright 2008 ? P.IVA 04585270657 | www.faceyourmanga.com _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -- www.myspace.com/lycopodeiauk www.lycopodeia.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk Mon Aug 18 17:54:07 2008 From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk (ade) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:54:07 +0100 Subject: [kj] Face Your Manga Message-ID: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC072153@mr-pants.the-lab.local> Erectile pressure is not the issue ! -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Mik Raven Sent: 18 August 2008 22:49 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga Forgotten to take your blue pills again eh? _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of ade Sent: 18 August 2008 22:46 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga You're MUCH lovelier than that Mik. That made me wilt. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Mik Raven Sent: 18 August 2008 22:38 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga So here's my attempt. Scarily true to life, but not quite as scary as Marcs! Lol. Here is your Avatar Right click on the image and then save as from the menu to download it. If the image should not be correctly visualized, you can download it as an attachment from this e-mail. Face Your Manga Team welcomes you to our world. Per salvare l'immagine: Tasto destro poi clicca su "Salva immagine con nome". Face Your Manga gives you a chance yo give originality and style to your World: create and print your face, turn it in a work of art and amaze all with an original gift. Buy quickly: 1. Create your own Avatar for free 2. Buy online in a "safe-way" with PayPal 3. Download your Avatar and print it! Copyright 2008 ?? P.IVA 04585270657 | www.faceyourmanga.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mikraven at o2.co.uk Mon Aug 18 17:54:20 2008 From: mikraven at o2.co.uk (Mik Raven) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:54:20 +0100 Subject: [kj] Face Your Manga In-Reply-To: References: <00b301c9017a$ad98a5f0$eb01650a@ptgint.com> Message-ID: <00f501c9017c$f80a8020$eb01650a@ptgint.com> Your shade was not an option and only one size of ears for females. _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of melinda grant Sent: 18 August 2008 22:49 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga plus my ears look like the F.A cup in my avatar lol and my skin shade is too dark,i am much lighter in person---but good try mik ;) anyone interested in what i really look like in person,check my profile pic on my myspace profile------you know the link,your all on my page anyway ;) ............arnt you ;p _____ From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:42:56 +0100 Subject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga that almost looks like you,except your hair is lighter in person----my hair is longer and lighter in person-- and my chin is never that pointed lol lol----we both look like hippys ;D)))) lol _____ From: mikraven at o2.co.uk To: gathering at misera.net Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:37:56 +0100 Subject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga So here?s my attempt. Scarily true to life, but not quite as scary as Marcs! Lol. Here is your Avatar Right click on the image and then save as from the menu to download it. If the image should not be correctly visualized, you can download it as an attachment from this e-mail. Face Your Manga Team welcomes you to our world. Per salvare l'immagine: Tasto destro poi clicca su "Salva immagine con nome". Face Your Manga gives you a chance yo give originality and style to your World: create and print your face, turn it in a work of art and amaze all with an original gift. Buy quickly: 1. Create your own Avatar for free 2. Buy online in a "safe-way" with PayPal 3. Download your Avatar and print it! Copyright 2008 ?? P.IVA 04585270657 | www.faceyourmanga.com _____ Find out how to make Messenger your very own TV! Try it Now! _____ Get fish-slapping on Messenger! Play Now -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mikraven at o2.co.uk Mon Aug 18 17:55:19 2008 From: mikraven at o2.co.uk (Mik Raven) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:55:19 +0100 Subject: [kj] Face Your Manga In-Reply-To: <4881fb6c0808181449h3a97c103n2500d40d1ba7edc4@mail.gmail.com> References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC072150@mr-pants.the-lab.local> <4881fb6c0808181449h3a97c103n2500d40d1ba7edc4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <00fa01c9017d$1c9d2410$eb01650a@ptgint.com> Only when ade's laid on top of me! ;-) _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Tabazan Sent: 18 August 2008 22:50 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga >You're MUCH lovelier than that Mik You never say that about me :( I think Mik has finally put weight on . . On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 10:46 PM, ade wrote: You're MUCH lovelier than that Mik. That made me wilt. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Mik Raven Sent: 18 August 2008 22:38 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga So here's my attempt. Scarily true to life, but not quite as scary as Marcs! Lol. Here is your Avatar Right click on the image and then save as from the menu to download it. If the image should not be correctly visualized, you can download it as an attachment from this e-mail. Face Your Manga Team welcomes you to our world. Per salvare l'immagine: Tasto destro poi clicca su "Salva immagine con nome". Face Your Manga gives you a chance yo give originality and style to your World: create and print your face, turn it in a work of art and amaze all with an original gift. Buy quickly: 1. Create your own Avatar for free 2. Buy online in a "safe-way" with PayPal 3. Download your Avatar and print it! Copyright 2008 C P.IVA 04585270657 | www.faceyourmanga.com _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -- www.myspace.com/lycopodeiauk www.lycopodeia.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hollytree1961 at hotmail.com Mon Aug 18 17:56:17 2008 From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com (melinda grant) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:56:17 +0100 Subject: [kj] Face Your Manga In-Reply-To: <00c701c9017b$beb751a0$eb01650a@ptgint.com> References: <00b301c9017a$ad98a5f0$eb01650a@ptgint.com> <00c701c9017b$beb751a0$eb01650a@ptgint.com> Message-ID: what you mean your streaked look of so many grays there was no option to put those in yours ;D))))) ? From: mikraven at o2.co.ukTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:45:34 +0100Subject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga Ooops! Forgot to lighten the hair. That was my second one, the first didn?t come through. I did make the hair lighter 1st time, but there was no option for grey highlights! J From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of melinda grantSent: 18 August 2008 22:43To: gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga that almost looks like you,except your hair is lighter in person----my hair is longer and lighter in person-- and my chin is never that pointed lol lol----we both look like hippys ;D)))) lol From: mikraven at o2.co.ukTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:37:56 +0100Subject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga So here?s my attempt. Scarily true to life, but not quite as scary as Marcs! Lol. Here is your AvatarRight click on the image and then save as from the menu to download it. If the image should not be correctly visualized, you can download it as an attachment from this e-mail. Face Your Manga Team welcomes you to our world. Face Your Manga gives you a chance yo give originality and style to your World: create and print your face, turn it in a work of art and amaze all with an original gift.Buy quickly:1. Create your own Avatar for free2. Buy online in a "safe-way" with PayPal3. Download your Avatar and print it! Copyright 2008 ?? P.IVA 04585270657 | www.faceyourmanga.com Find out how to make Messenger your very own TV! Try it Now! _________________________________________________________________ Win New York holidays with Kellogg?s & Live Search http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/107571440/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk Mon Aug 18 18:00:39 2008 From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk (ade) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:00:39 +0100 Subject: [kj] Face Your Manga Message-ID: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC072154@mr-pants.the-lab.local> Christ, yes, I'd smother you! -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Mik Raven Sent: 18 August 2008 22:55 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga Only when ade's laid on top of me! ;-) _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Tabazan Sent: 18 August 2008 22:50 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga >You're MUCH lovelier than that Mik You never say that about me :( I think Mik has finally put weight on . . On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 10:46 PM, ade < ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk> wrote: You're MUCH lovelier than that Mik. That made me wilt. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto: gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Mik Raven Sent: 18 August 2008 22:38 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga So here's my attempt. Scarily true to life, but not quite as scary as Marcs! Lol. Here is your Avatar Right click on the image and then save as from the menu to download it. If the image should not be correctly visualized, you can download it as an attachment from this e-mail. Face Your Manga Team welcomes you to our world. Per salvare l'immagine: Tasto destro poi clicca su "Salva immagine con nome". Face Your Manga gives you a chance yo give originality and style to your World: create and print your face, turn it in a work of art and amaze all with an original gift. Buy quickly: 1. Create your own Avatar for free 2. Buy online in a "safe-way" with PayPal 3. Download your Avatar and print it! Copyright 2008 ? P.IVA 04585270657 | www.faceyourmanga.com _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -- www.myspace.com/lycopodeiauk www.lycopodeia.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hollytree1961 at hotmail.com Mon Aug 18 18:02:28 2008 From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com (melinda grant) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:02:28 +0100 Subject: [kj] Face Your Manga In-Reply-To: <00f501c9017c$f80a8020$eb01650a@ptgint.com> References: <00b301c9017a$ad98a5f0$eb01650a@ptgint.com> <00f501c9017c$f80a8020$eb01650a@ptgint.com> Message-ID: so all females end up looking like the puppet human charactures from the movie with ears that size called---the dark crystal- lol um its kinda cute suppose From: mikraven at o2.co.ukTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:54:20 +0100Subject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga Your shade was not an option and only one size of ears for females. From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of melinda grantSent: 18 August 2008 22:49To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)Subject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga plus my ears look like the F.A cup in my avatar lol and my skin shade is too dark,i am much lighter in person---but good try mik ;) anyone interested in what i really look like in person,check my profile pic on my myspace profile------you know the link,your all on my page anyway ;) ............arnt you ;p From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:42:56 +0100Subject: Re: [kj] Face Your Mangathat almost looks like you,except your hair is lighter in person----my hair is longer and lighter in person-- and my chin is never that pointed lol lol----we both look like hippys ;D)))) lol From: mikraven at o2.co.ukTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:37:56 +0100Subject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga So here?s my attempt. Scarily true to life, but not quite as scary as Marcs! Lol. Here is your AvatarRight click on the image and then save as from the menu to download it. If the image should not be correctly visualized, you can download it as an attachment from this e-mail. Face Your Manga Team welcomes you to our world. Face Your Manga gives you a chance yo give originality and style to your World: create and print your face, turn it in a work of art and amaze all with an original gift.Buy quickly:1. Create your own Avatar for free2. Buy online in a "safe-way" with PayPal3. Download your Avatar and print it! Copyright 2008 ?? P.IVA 04585270657 | www.faceyourmanga.com Find out how to make Messenger your very own TV! Try it Now! Get fish-slapping on Messenger! Play Now _________________________________________________________________ Win New York holidays with Kellogg?s & Live Search http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/107571440/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mikraven at o2.co.uk Mon Aug 18 18:04:27 2008 From: mikraven at o2.co.uk (Mik Raven) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:04:27 +0100 Subject: [kj] Face Your Manga In-Reply-To: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC072154@mr-pants.the-lab.local> References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC072154@mr-pants.the-lab.local> Message-ID: <012f01c9017e$61ea6c70$eb01650a@ptgint.com> You do on a regular basis. I'm just too polite to say anything, or can't breathe, one of the two! _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of ade Sent: 18 August 2008 23:01 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga Christ, yes, I'd smother you! -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Mik Raven Sent: 18 August 2008 22:55 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga Only when ade's laid on top of me! ;-) _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Tabazan Sent: 18 August 2008 22:50 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga >You're MUCH lovelier than that Mik You never say that about me :( I think Mik has finally put weight on . . On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 10:46 PM, ade wrote: You're MUCH lovelier than that Mik. That made me wilt. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Mik Raven Sent: 18 August 2008 22:38 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga So here's my attempt. Scarily true to life, but not quite as scary as Marcs! Lol. Here is your Avatar Right click on the image and then save as from the menu to download it. If the image should not be correctly visualized, you can download it as an attachment from this e-mail. Face Your Manga Team welcomes you to our world. Per salvare l'immagine: Tasto destro poi clicca su "Salva immagine con nome". Face Your Manga gives you a chance yo give originality and style to your World: create and print your face, turn it in a work of art and amaze all with an original gift. Buy quickly: 1. Create your own Avatar for free 2. Buy online in a "safe-way" with PayPal 3. Download your Avatar and print it! Copyright 2008 C P.IVA 04585270657 | www.faceyourmanga.com _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -- www.myspace.com/lycopodeiauk www.lycopodeia.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk Mon Aug 18 18:08:04 2008 From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk (ade) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:08:04 +0100 Subject: [kj] Face Your Manga Message-ID: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC072155@mr-pants.the-lab.local> Ooh, remember THAT scene from the Borat film? -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Mik Raven Sent: 18 August 2008 23:04 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga You do on a regular basis. I'm just too polite to say anything, or can't breathe, one of the two! _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of ade Sent: 18 August 2008 23:01 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga Christ, yes, I'd smother you! -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Mik Raven Sent: 18 August 2008 22:55 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga Only when ade's laid on top of me! ;-) _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Tabazan Sent: 18 August 2008 22:50 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga >You're MUCH lovelier than that Mik You never say that about me :( I think Mik has finally put weight on . . On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 10:46 PM, ade < ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk> wrote: You're MUCH lovelier than that Mik. That made me wilt. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto: gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Mik Raven Sent: 18 August 2008 22:38 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga So here's my attempt. Scarily true to life, but not quite as scary as Marcs! Lol. Here is your Avatar Right click on the image and then save as from the menu to download it. If the image should not be correctly visualized, you can download it as an attachment from this e-mail. Face Your Manga Team welcomes you to our world. Per salvare l'immagine: Tasto destro poi clicca su "Salva immagine con nome". Face Your Manga gives you a chance yo give originality and style to your World: create and print your face, turn it in a work of art and amaze all with an original gift. Buy quickly: 1. Create your own Avatar for free 2. Buy online in a "safe-way" with PayPal 3. Download your Avatar and print it! Copyright 2008 ? P.IVA 04585270657 | www.faceyourmanga.com _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -- www.myspace.com/lycopodeiauk www.lycopodeia.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mikraven at o2.co.uk Mon Aug 18 18:07:36 2008 From: mikraven at o2.co.uk (Mik Raven) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:07:36 +0100 Subject: [kj] Face Your Manga In-Reply-To: References: <00b301c9017a$ad98a5f0$eb01650a@ptgint.com> <00c701c9017b$beb751a0$eb01650a@ptgint.com> Message-ID: <013401c9017e$d3c2b5f0$eb01650a@ptgint.com> Yes I did mean mine. I like the Dark Crystal. The Mystics and the Skeksis. Used to call my daughter a Skeksis when she was on crutches. Guess that?s something only a father can get away with though! _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of melinda grant Sent: 18 August 2008 22:56 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga what you mean your streaked look of so many grays there was no option to put those in yours ;D))))) ? _____ From: mikraven at o2.co.uk To: gathering at misera.net Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:45:34 +0100 Subject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga Ooops! Forgot to lighten the hair. That was my second one, the first didn?t come through. I did make the hair lighter 1st time, but there was no option for grey highlights! :-) _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of melinda grant Sent: 18 August 2008 22:43 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga that almost looks like you,except your hair is lighter in person----my hair is longer and lighter in person-- and my chin is never that pointed lol lol----we both look like hippys ;D)))) lol _____ From: mikraven at o2.co.uk To: gathering at misera.net Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:37:56 +0100 Subject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga So here?s my attempt. Scarily true to life, but not quite as scary as Marcs! Lol. Here is your Avatar Right click on the image and then save as from the menu to download it. If the image should not be correctly visualized, you can download it as an attachment from this e-mail. Face Your Manga Team welcomes you to our world. Per salvare l'immagine: Tasto destro poi clicca su "Salva immagine con nome". Face Your Manga gives you a chance yo give originality and style to your World: create and print your face, turn it in a work of art and amaze all with an original gift. Buy quickly: 1. Create your own Avatar for free 2. Buy online in a "safe-way" with PayPal 3. Download your Avatar and print it! Copyright 2008 ?? P.IVA 04585270657 | www.faceyourmanga.com _____ Find out how to make Messenger your very own TV! Try it Now! _____ Get fish-slapping on Messenger! Play Now -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mikraven at o2.co.uk Mon Aug 18 18:10:19 2008 From: mikraven at o2.co.uk (Mik Raven) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:10:19 +0100 Subject: [kj] Face Your Manga In-Reply-To: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC072155@mr-pants.the-lab.local> References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC072155@mr-pants.the-lab.local> Message-ID: <014b01c9017f$33df8210$eb01650a@ptgint.com> Not seen Borat yet but the mind boggles! _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of ade Sent: 18 August 2008 23:08 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga Ooh, remember THAT scene from the Borat film? -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Mik Raven Sent: 18 August 2008 23:04 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga You do on a regular basis. I'm just too polite to say anything, or can't breathe, one of the two! _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of ade Sent: 18 August 2008 23:01 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga Christ, yes, I'd smother you! -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Mik Raven Sent: 18 August 2008 22:55 To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Subject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga Only when ade's laid on top of me! ;-) _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Tabazan Sent: 18 August 2008 22:50 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga >You're MUCH lovelier than that Mik You never say that about me :( I think Mik has finally put weight on . . On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 10:46 PM, ade wrote: You're MUCH lovelier than that Mik. That made me wilt. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Mik Raven Sent: 18 August 2008 22:38 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga So here's my attempt. Scarily true to life, but not quite as scary as Marcs! Lol. Here is your Avatar Right click on the image and then save as from the menu to download it. If the image should not be correctly visualized, you can download it as an attachment from this e-mail. Face Your Manga Team welcomes you to our world. Per salvare l'immagine: Tasto destro poi clicca su "Salva immagine con nome". Face Your Manga gives you a chance yo give originality and style to your World: create and print your face, turn it in a work of art and amaze all with an original gift. Buy quickly: 1. Create your own Avatar for free 2. Buy online in a "safe-way" with PayPal 3. Download your Avatar and print it! Copyright 2008 C P.IVA 04585270657 | www.faceyourmanga.com _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -- www.myspace.com/lycopodeiauk www.lycopodeia.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hollytree1961 at hotmail.com Mon Aug 18 18:20:44 2008 From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com (melinda grant) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:20:44 +0100 Subject: [kj] Face Your Manga In-Reply-To: <013401c9017e$d3c2b5f0$eb01650a@ptgint.com> References: <00b301c9017a$ad98a5f0$eb01650a@ptgint.com> <00c701c9017b$beb751a0$eb01650a@ptgint.com> <013401c9017e$d3c2b5f0$eb01650a@ptgint.com> Message-ID: i love the movie----the dark crystal---i brought it years ago on vid--and when it came out on dvd,i brought it again,its a great film--love it ;)ps i hide any grays by colouring my hair--i dont have many any way,but one or to is enough for me to get out that colour ;D From: mikraven at o2.co.ukTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:07:36 +0100Subject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga Yes I did mean mine. I like the Dark Crystal. The Mystics and the Skeksis. Used to call my daughter a Skeksis when she was on crutches. Guess that?s something only a father can get away with though! From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of melinda grantSent: 18 August 2008 22:56To: gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga what you mean your streaked look of so many grays there was no option to put those in yours ;D))))) ? From: mikraven at o2.co.ukTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:45:34 +0100Subject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga Ooops! Forgot to lighten the hair. That was my second one, the first didn?t come through. I did make the hair lighter 1st time, but there was no option for grey highlights! J From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of melinda grantSent: 18 August 2008 22:43To: gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga that almost looks like you,except your hair is lighter in person----my hair is longer and lighter in person-- and my chin is never that pointed lol lol----we both look like hippys ;D)))) lol From: mikraven at o2.co.ukTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:37:56 +0100Subject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga So here?s my attempt. Scarily true to life, but not quite as scary as Marcs! Lol. Here is your AvatarRight click on the image and then save as from the menu to download it. If the image should not be correctly visualized, you can download it as an attachment from this e-mail. Face Your Manga Team welcomes you to our world. Face Your Manga gives you a chance yo give originality and style to your World: create and print your face, turn it in a work of art and amaze all with an original gift.Buy quickly:1. Create your own Avatar for free2. Buy online in a "safe-way" with PayPal3. Download your Avatar and print it! Copyright 2008 ?? P.IVA 04585270657 | www.faceyourmanga.com Find out how to make Messenger your very own TV! Try it Now! Get fish-slapping on Messenger! Play Now _________________________________________________________________ Win New York holidays with Kellogg?s & Live Search http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/107571440/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karen.weil at sddt.com Mon Aug 18 18:23:17 2008 From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:23:17 -0700 Subject: [kj] Face Your Manga References: <00b301c9017a$ad98a5f0$eb01650a@ptgint.com><00c701c9017b$beb751a0$eb01650a@ptgint.com> <013401c9017e$d3c2b5f0$eb01650a@ptgint.com> Message-ID: <7C0FF3AAA05940D0B7E5E8EC28C37948@edweil> "Mmmm, make friends with Skeksis!" Cute. k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mik Raven To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 3:07 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga Yes I did mean mine. I like the Dark Crystal. The Mystics and the Skeksis. Used to call my daughter a Skeksis when she was on crutches. Guess that's something only a father can get away with though! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of melinda grant Sent: 18 August 2008 22:56 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga what you mean your streaked look of so many grays there was no option to put those in yours ;D))))) ? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: mikraven at o2.co.uk To: gathering at misera.net Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:45:34 +0100 Subject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga Ooops! Forgot to lighten the hair. That was my second one, the first didn't come through. I did make the hair lighter 1st time, but there was no option for grey highlights! J ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of melinda grant Sent: 18 August 2008 22:43 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga that almost looks like you,except your hair is lighter in person----my hair is longer and lighter in person-- and my chin is never that pointed lol lol----we both look like hippys ;D)))) lol ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: mikraven at o2.co.uk To: gathering at misera.net Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:37:56 +0100 Subject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga So here's my attempt. Scarily true to life, but not quite as scary as Marcs! Lol. Here is your Avatar Right click on the image and then save as from the menu to download it. If the image should not be correctly visualized, you can download it as an attachment from this e-mail. Face Your Manga Team welcomes you to our world. 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URL: From mikraven at o2.co.uk Mon Aug 18 18:24:57 2008 From: mikraven at o2.co.uk (Mik Raven) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:24:57 +0100 Subject: [kj] Face Your Manga In-Reply-To: References: <00b301c9017a$ad98a5f0$eb01650a@ptgint.com><00c701c9017b$beb751a0$eb01650a@ptgint.com> <013401c9017e$d3c2b5f0$eb01650a@ptgint.com> Message-ID: <016801c90181$3ee4f0d0$eb01650a@ptgint.com> Hmmmm, I?ll keep quiet! lol _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of melinda grant Sent: 18 August 2008 23:21 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga i love the movie----the dark crystal---i brought it years ago on vid--and when it came out on dvd,i brought it again,its a great film--love it ;) ps i hide any grays by colouring my hair--i dont have many any way,but one or to is enough for me to get out that colour ;D _____ From: mikraven at o2.co.uk To: gathering at misera.net Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:07:36 +0100 Subject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga Yes I did mean mine. I like the Dark Crystal. The Mystics and the Skeksis. Used to call my daughter a Skeksis when she was on crutches. Guess that?s something only a father can get away with though! _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of melinda grant Sent: 18 August 2008 22:56 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga what you mean your streaked look of so many grays there was no option to put those in yours ;D))))) ? _____ From: mikraven at o2.co.uk To: gathering at misera.net Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:45:34 +0100 Subject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga Ooops! Forgot to lighten the hair. That was my second one, the first didn?t come through. I did make the hair lighter 1st time, but there was no option for grey highlights! :-) _____ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of melinda grant Sent: 18 August 2008 22:43 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga that almost looks like you,except your hair is lighter in person----my hair is longer and lighter in person-- and my chin is never that pointed lol lol----we both look like hippys ;D)))) lol _____ From: mikraven at o2.co.uk To: gathering at misera.net Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:37:56 +0100 Subject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga So here?s my attempt. Scarily true to life, but not quite as scary as Marcs! Lol. Here is your Avatar Right click on the image and then save as from the menu to download it. If the image should not be correctly visualized, you can download it as an attachment from this e-mail. Face Your Manga Team welcomes you to our world. Per salvare l'immagine: Tasto destro poi clicca su "Salva immagine con nome". Face Your Manga gives you a chance yo give originality and style to your World: create and print your face, turn it in a work of art and amaze all with an original gift. Buy quickly: 1. Create your own Avatar for free 2. Buy online in a "safe-way" with PayPal 3. Download your Avatar and print it! Copyright 2008 ?? P.IVA 04585270657 | www.faceyourmanga.com _____ Find out how to make Messenger your very own TV! Try it Now! _____ Get fish-slapping on Messenger! Play Now _____ Win ?3000 to spend on whatever you want at Uni! Click here to WIN! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hollytree1961 at hotmail.com Mon Aug 18 18:29:21 2008 From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com (melinda grant) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:29:21 +0100 Subject: [kj] Face Your Manga In-Reply-To: <016801c90181$3ee4f0d0$eb01650a@ptgint.com> References: <00b301c9017a$ad98a5f0$eb01650a@ptgint.com><00c701c9017b$beb751a0$eb01650a@ptgint.com> <013401c9017e$d3c2b5f0$eb01650a@ptgint.com> <016801c90181$3ee4f0d0$eb01650a@ptgint.com> Message-ID: what do you mean,you have a second carrea in hair dressing to fall back on--and i know what you were thinking btw and you have as well but i wont snitch ;) From: mikraven at o2.co.ukTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:24:57 +0100Subject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga Hmmmm, I?ll keep quiet! lol From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of melinda grantSent: 18 August 2008 23:21To: gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga i love the movie----the dark crystal---i brought it years ago on vid--and when it came out on dvd,i brought it again,its a great film--love it ;)ps i hide any grays by colouring my hair--i dont have many any way,but one or to is enough for me to get out that colour ;D From: mikraven at o2.co.ukTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:07:36 +0100Subject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga Yes I did mean mine. I like the Dark Crystal. The Mystics and the Skeksis. Used to call my daughter a Skeksis when she was on crutches. Guess that?s something only a father can get away with though! From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of melinda grantSent: 18 August 2008 22:56To: gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga what you mean your streaked look of so many grays there was no option to put those in yours ;D))))) ? From: mikraven at o2.co.ukTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:45:34 +0100Subject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga Ooops! Forgot to lighten the hair. That was my second one, the first didn?t come through. I did make the hair lighter 1st time, but there was no option for grey highlights! J From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of melinda grantSent: 18 August 2008 22:43To: gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga that almost looks like you,except your hair is lighter in person----my hair is longer and lighter in person-- and my chin is never that pointed lol lol----we both look like hippys ;D)))) lol From: mikraven at o2.co.ukTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:37:56 +0100Subject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga So here?s my attempt. Scarily true to life, but not quite as scary as Marcs! Lol. Here is your AvatarRight click on the image and then save as from the menu to download it. If the image should not be correctly visualized, you can download it as an attachment from this e-mail. Face Your Manga Team welcomes you to our world. Face Your Manga gives you a chance yo give originality and style to your World: create and print your face, turn it in a work of art and amaze all with an original gift.Buy quickly:1. Create your own Avatar for free2. Buy online in a "safe-way" with PayPal3. Download your Avatar and print it! Copyright 2008 ?? P.IVA 04585270657 | www.faceyourmanga.com Find out how to make Messenger your very own TV! Try it Now! Get fish-slapping on Messenger! Play Now Win ?3000 to spend on whatever you want at Uni! Click here to WIN! _________________________________________________________________ Win New York holidays with Kellogg?s & Live Search http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/107571440/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com Mon Aug 18 18:50:21 2008 From: folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com (folk devil) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:50:21 -0700 Subject: [kj] Face Your Manga - mellie melinda In-Reply-To: References: <00b301c9017a$ad98a5f0$eb01650a@ptgint.com> Message-ID: what is your myspace addy? :[" From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:48:36 +0100Subject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga plus my ears look like the F.A cup in my avatar lol and my skin shade is too dark,i am much lighter in person---but good try mik ;) anyone interested in what i really look like in person,check my profile pic on my myspace profile------you know the link,your all on my page anyway ;) ............arnt you ;p From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:42:56 +0100Subject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga that almost looks like you,except your hair is lighter in person----my hair is longer and lighter in person-- and my chin is never that pointed lol lol----we both look like hippys ;D)))) lol From: mikraven at o2.co.ukTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:37:56 +0100Subject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga So here?s my attempt. Scarily true to life, but not quite as scary as Marcs! Lol. Here is your AvatarRight click on the image and then save as from the menu to download it. If the image should not be correctly visualized, you can download it as an attachment from this e-mail. Face Your Manga Team welcomes you to our world. Face Your Manga gives you a chance yo give originality and style to your World: create and print your face, turn it in a work of art and amaze all with an original gift.Buy quickly:1. Create your own Avatar for free2. Buy online in a "safe-way" with PayPal3. Download your Avatar and print it! Copyright 2008 ?? P.IVA 04585270657 | www.faceyourmanga.com Find out how to make Messenger your very own TV! Try it Now! Get fish-slapping on Messenger! Play Now _________________________________________________________________ Get ideas on sharing photos from people like you. Find new ways to share. http://www.windowslive.com/explore/photogallery/posts?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Photo_Gallery_082008 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com Mon Aug 18 18:53:38 2008 From: folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com (folk devil) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:53:38 -0700 Subject: [kj] Face Your Manga - Borat In-Reply-To: <014b01c9017f$33df8210$eb01650a@ptgint.com> References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC072155@mr-pants.the-lab.local> <014b01c9017f$33df8210$eb01650a@ptgint.com> Message-ID: why does Borat speak Polish? "jak sie masz" From: mikraven at o2.co.ukTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:10:19 +0100Subject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga Not seen Borat yet but the mind boggles! From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of adeSent: 18 August 2008 23:08To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)Subject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga Ooh, remember THAT scene from the Borat film? -----Original Message-----From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Mik RavenSent: 18 August 2008 23:04To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'Subject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga You do on a regular basis. I?m just too polite to say anything, or can?t breathe, one of the two! From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of adeSent: 18 August 2008 23:01To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)Subject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga Christ, yes, I'd smother you! -----Original Message-----From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Mik RavenSent: 18 August 2008 22:55To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'Subject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga Only when ade?s laid on top of me! ;-) From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of TabazanSent: 18 August 2008 22:50To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)Subject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga >You're MUCH lovelier than that MikYou never say that about me :(I think Mik has finally put weight on . . On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 10:46 PM, ade wrote: You're MUCH lovelier than that Mik. That made me wilt. -----Original Message-----From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Mik RavenSent: 18 August 2008 22:38To: gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga So here's my attempt. Scarily true to life, but not quite as scary as Marcs! Lol. Here is your AvatarRight click on the image and then save as from the menu to download it. If the image should not be correctly visualized, you can download it as an attachment from this e-mail. Face Your Manga Team welcomes you to our world. Face Your Manga gives you a chance yo give originality and style to your World: create and print your face, turn it in a work of art and amaze all with an original gift.Buy quickly:1. Create your own Avatar for free2. Buy online in a "safe-way" with PayPal3. Download your Avatar and print it! Copyright 2008 ? P.IVA 04585270657 | www.faceyourmanga.com _______________________________________________Gathering mailing listGathering at misera.nethttp://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -- www.myspace.com/lycopodeiaukwww.lycopodeia.co.uk _________________________________________________________________ Get ideas on sharing photos from people like you. Find new ways to share. http://www.windowslive.com/explore/photogallery/posts?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Photo_Gallery_082008 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hollytree1961 at hotmail.com Mon Aug 18 19:04:58 2008 From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com (melinda grant) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 00:04:58 +0100 Subject: [kj] Face Your Manga - mellie melinda In-Reply-To: References: <00b301c9017a$ad98a5f0$eb01650a@ptgint.com> Message-ID: www.myspace.com/theone1126 think thats right folky ;D its not very original is it ;( any way be my guest have a looky,i dont mind ;) whats yours? From: folkdevil_23 at hotmail.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:50:21 -0700Subject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga - mellie melinda what is your myspace addy? :[" From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:48:36 +0100Subject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga plus my ears look like the F.A cup in my avatar lol and my skin shade is too dark,i am much lighter in person---but good try mik ;) anyone interested in what i really look like in person,check my profile pic on my myspace profile------you know the link,your all on my page anyway ;) ............arnt you ;p From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:42:56 +0100Subject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga that almost looks like you,except your hair is lighter in person----my hair is longer and lighter in person-- and my chin is never that pointed lol lol----we both look like hippys ;D)))) lol From: mikraven at o2.co.ukTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:37:56 +0100Subject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga So here?s my attempt. Scarily true to life, but not quite as scary as Marcs! Lol. Here is your AvatarRight click on the image and then save as from the menu to download it. If the image should not be correctly visualized, you can download it as an attachment from this e-mail. Face Your Manga Team welcomes you to our world. Face Your Manga gives you a chance yo give originality and style to your World: create and print your face, turn it in a work of art and amaze all with an original gift.Buy quickly:1. Create your own Avatar for free2. Buy online in a "safe-way" with PayPal3. Download your Avatar and print it! Copyright 2008 ?? P.IVA 04585270657 | www.faceyourmanga.com Find out how to make Messenger your very own TV! Try it Now! Get fish-slapping on Messenger! Play Now Get ideas on sharing photos from people like you. Find new ways to share. Get Ideas Here! _________________________________________________________________ Make a mini you on Windows Live Messenger! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/107571437/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jagargal at lycos.com Mon Aug 18 19:08:00 2008 From: jagargal at lycos.com (Javier Garcia) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:08:00 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [kj] Face Your Manga - here i am Message-ID: <20080818190800.HM.0000000000007li@jagargal.bos-mail-wwl12.lycos.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jpwhkj at aol.com Mon Aug 18 19:31:44 2008 From: jpwhkj at aol.com (jpwhkj at aol.com) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:31:44 -0400 Subject: [kj] the film Tropic Thunder In-Reply-To: References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC072149@mr-pants.the-lab.local> Message-ID: <8CACFA1B56D43E9-E84-13E9@webmail-dd08.sysops.aol.com> Chris Morris = genius. Some of the stuff on The Day Today was so well done that you could be forgiven for thinking it was the real thing.? Brass Eye was more surreal, but of course still convincing to some of the poor saps who were so eager to participate. Anyone for cake? Jamie -----Original Message----- From: folk devil To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:39 Subject: Re: [kj] the film Tropic Thunder Excellent stuff! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ER0zKTGI2g8 ? Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 20:59:00 +0100 From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder ?Check out Brass Eye or The Day Today if you ever get chance. ? ? Talk to your Yahoo! Friends via Windows Live Messenger. Find Out How = _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ________________________________________________________________________ AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From blazingstar418 at yahoo.com Tue Aug 19 00:15:24 2008 From: blazingstar418 at yahoo.com (Blazingstar418) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:15:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [kj] OT: Helios/Chrome Dual Forces US Tour 2008 In-Reply-To: <20080818190800.HM.0000000000007li@jagargal.bos-mail-wwl12.lycos.com> Message-ID: <348239.88821.qm@web57115.mail.re3.yahoo.com> So, the bad news is I don't get to see Killing Joke on *any* of the dates of the US tour. The good news is that the reason that I won't be seeing them is because I'll be drumming on a US tour with Helios Creed/Chrome. Here are the dates for anyone who might be interested. Sept-Oct 2008 09/17/08 Hemlock Tavern, San Francisco, CA 09/18/08 Stillwater, Ashland OR 09/19/08 East End Pub, Portland OR 09/20/08 Funhouse, Seattle WA 09/23/08 3 Kings Tavern, Denver CO 09/24/08 Knickerbockers, Lincoln NE 09/25/08 Record Bar, Kansas City MO 09/26/08 Turf Club, St. Paul MN 09/27/08 Cobra Lounge, Chicago IL 09/28/08 Pike Room, Pontiac MI 09/29/08 Beachland, Cleveland OH 10/01/08 Church, Boston MA 10/02/08 The Annex, New York NY 10/03/08 Talking Head, Baltimore MD 10/04/08 Empty Glass, Charleston WV 10/05/08 The Milestone, Charlotte NC 10/06/08 Drunken Unicorn, Atlanta GA 10/07/08 The Nick, Birmingham AL 10/09/08 Rudyards, Houston TX 10/10/08 The Prophet Bar, Dallas, TX 10/12/08 The Mix, San Antonio TX 10/15/08 Knitting Factory, Los Angeles, CA I've met a handful of Gatherers here in the States, and am always up for meeting more of you. ?If you're interested, please come down and see the show. Also, since I only know a *handful* of folks scattered throughout the States, email me if you *do* want to come and I'll try to get you on the guest list. ~Aleph "The scene was wild and somewhat sinister. The darkness, the palms, the mountainous background, the silent lake below, the impenetrable canopy of space, studded with secretive and significant stars, formed a stupendous setting for the savage noise and blaze of the ceremony." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Per.G.Olsson at Miljonmysteriet.com Tue Aug 19 01:41:08 2008 From: Per.G.Olsson at Miljonmysteriet.com (Per G Olsson) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 07:41:08 +0200 Subject: [kj] OT: Helios/Chrome Dual Forces US Tour 2008 In-Reply-To: <348239.88821.qm@web57115.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <348239.88821.qm@web57115.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Cool! Maybe you could push to get Red Exposure re-released in it's full form? My old vinyl copy is far too noisy by now and the CD box doesn't include all tracks... /Per 19 aug 2008 kl. 06.15 skrev Blazingstar418: > So, the bad news is I don't get to see Killing Joke on *any* of the > dates of the US tour. > > The good news is that the reason that I won't be seeing them is > because I'll be drumming on a US tour with Helios Creed/Chrome. > > Here are the dates for anyone who might be interested. > > Sept-Oct 2008 > 09/17/08 Hemlock Tavern, San Francisco, CA > 09/18/08 Stillwater, Ashland OR > 09/19/08 East End Pub, Portland OR > 09/20/08 Funhouse, Seattle WA > 09/23/08 3 Kings Tavern, Denver CO > 09/24/08 Knickerbockers, Lincoln NE > 09/25/08 Record Bar, Kansas City MO > 09/26/08 Turf Club, St. Paul MN > 09/27/08 Cobra Lounge, Chicago IL > 09/28/08 Pike Room, Pontiac MI > 09/29/08 Beachland, Cleveland OH > 10/01/08 Church, Boston MA > 10/02/08 The Annex, New York NY > 10/03/08 Talking Head, Baltimore MD > 10/04/08 Empty Glass, Charleston WV > 10/05/08 The Milestone, Charlotte NC > 10/06/08 Drunken Unicorn, Atlanta GA > 10/07/08 The Nick, Birmingham AL > 10/09/08 Rudyards, Houston TX > 10/10/08 The Prophet Bar, Dallas, TX > 10/12/08 The Mix, San Antonio TX > 10/15/08 Knitting Factory, Los Angeles, CA > > > I've met a handful of Gatherers here in the States, and am always > up for meeting more of you. > If you're interested, please come down and see the show. > > Also, since I only know a *handful* of folks scattered throughout > the States, email me if you *do* want to come and I'll try to get > you on the guest list. > > ~Aleph > > > > "The scene was wild and somewhat sinister. The darkness, the palms, > the mountainous background, the silent lake below, the impenetrable > canopy of space, studded with secretive and significant stars, > formed a stupendous setting for the savage noise and blaze of the > ceremony." > > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wessidetempest at hotmail.com Tue Aug 19 09:43:10 2008 From: wessidetempest at hotmail.com (Christof hamille) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 09:43:10 -0400 Subject: [kj] OT: Helios/Chrome Dual Forces US Tour 2008 In-Reply-To: References: <348239.88821.qm@web57115.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hey Aleph I may go try to see the show in Pontiac MI. I've been trying to be more $$$ responsible. And not doing very well. Either way when you are in town I can show you around and show the wonder and amazement (there is none...I kid...kind of) of Pontiac. Detroit isn't to far. Good luck with the tour Chris From: Per.G.Olsson at Miljonmysteriet.com Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 07:41:08 +0200 To: blazingstar418 at yahoo.com; gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Helios/Chrome Dual Forces US Tour 2008 Cool! Maybe you could push to get Red Exposure re-released in it's full form? My old vinyl copy is far too noisy by now and the CD box doesn't include all tracks... /Per 19 aug 2008 kl. 06.15 skrev Blazingstar418:So, the bad news is I don't get to see Killing Joke on *any* of the dates of the US tour. The good news is that the reason that I won't be seeing them is because I'll be drumming on a US tour with Helios Creed/Chrome. Here are the dates for anyone who might be interested. Sept-Oct 2008 09/17/08 Hemlock Tavern, San Francisco, CA 09/18/08 Stillwater, Ashland OR 09/19/08 East End Pub, Portland OR 09/20/08 Funhouse, Seattle WA 09/23/08 3 Kings Tavern, Denver CO 09/24/08 Knickerbockers, Lincoln NE 09/25/08 Record Bar, Kansas City MO 09/26/08 Turf Club, St. Paul MN 09/27/08 Cobra Lounge, Chicago IL 09/28/08 Pike Room, Pontiac MI 09/29/08 Beachland, Cleveland OH 10/01/08 Church, Boston MA 10/02/08 The Annex, New York NY 10/03/08 Talking Head, Baltimore MD 10/04/08 Empty Glass, Charleston WV 10/05/08 The Milestone, Charlotte NC 10/06/08 Drunken Unicorn, Atlanta GA 10/07/08 The Nick, Birmingham AL 10/09/08 Rudyards, Houston TX 10/10/08 The Prophet Bar, Dallas, TX 10/12/08 The Mix, San Antonio TX 10/15/08 Knitting Factory, Los Angeles, CA I've met a handful of Gatherers here in the States, and am always up for meeting more of you. If you're interested, please come down and see the show. Also, since I only know a *handful* of folks scattered throughout the States, email me if you *do* want to come and I'll try to get you on the guest list. ~Aleph "The scene was wild and somewhat sinister. The darkness, the palms, the mountainous background, the silent lake below, the impenetrable canopy of space, studded with secretive and significant stars, formed a stupendous setting for the savage noise and blaze of the ceremony." _______________________________________________Gathering mailing listGathering at misera.nethttp://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________________ Get thousands of games on your PC, your mobile phone, and the web with Windows?. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/108588800/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk Tue Aug 19 16:29:27 2008 From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk (ade) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 21:29:27 +0100 Subject: [kj] the film Tropic Thunder Message-ID: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC072158@mr-pants.the-lab.local> Cake. That has to be the funniest Bernard Manning ever got - unintentionally of course! -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of jpwhkj at aol.com Sent: 19 August 2008 00:32 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] the film Tropic Thunder Chris Morris = genius. Some of the stuff on The Day Today was so well done that you could be forgiven for thinking it was the real thing. Brass Eye was more surreal, but of course still convincing to some of the poor saps who were so eager to participate. Anyone for cake? Jamie -----Original Message----- From: folk devil To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:39 Subject: Re: [kj] the film Tropic Thunder Excellent stuff! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ER0zKTGI2g8 _____ Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 20:59:00 +0100 From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder Check out Brass Eye or The Day Today if you ever get chance. _____ Talk to your Yahoo! Friends via Windows Live Messenger. Find Out How = _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _____ AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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State media reported last week Glitter had been doing chores at a prison clinic in Binh Thuan province, 190 km (118 miles) north of Ho Chi Minh City and adjacent to the coastal province of Ba Ria-Vung Tau where he molested two 11-year-old girls while living in a villa." http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSHAN24257120080819 _____ Get ideas on sharing photos from people like you. Find new ways to share. Get Ideas Here! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karen.weil at sddt.com Tue Aug 19 16:37:22 2008 From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 13:37:22 -0700 Subject: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC072159@mr-pants.the-lab.local> Message-ID: <26C7DBE6D86B48B9A269305FD01CE2E3@edweil> I'm a progressive, and I say, "string that bastard up!" That strong enough for you, ade? Cheers, K.W. San Diego ----- Original Message ----- From: ade To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 1:30 PM Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos Of course, we couldn't string him up - that would hurt our (unrealistic) lefty sensibilities... -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: 19 August 2008 17:08 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos "THU DUC, Vietnam (Reuters) - Fallen British rock star Gary Glitter has been freed from a Vietnamese prison after completing a three-years sentence for molesting two young girls, his lawyer said on Tuesday.... State media reported last week Glitter had been doing chores at a prison clinic in Binh Thuan province, 190 km (118 miles) north of Ho Chi Minh City and adjacent to the coastal province of Ba Ria-Vung Tau where he molested two 11-year-old girls while living in a villa." http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSHAN24257120080819 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Get ideas on sharing photos from people like you. Find new ways to share. Get Ideas Here! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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San Diego ----- Original Message ----- From: ade To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 1:30 PM Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos Of course, we couldn't string him up - that would hurt our (unrealistic) lefty sensibilities... -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: 19 August 2008 17:08 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos "THU DUC, Vietnam (Reuters) - Fallen British rock star Gary Glitter has been freed from a Vietnamese prison after completing a three-years sentence for molesting two young girls, his lawyer said on Tuesday.... State media reported last week Glitter had been doing chores at a prison clinic in Binh Thuan province, 190 km (118 miles) north of Ho Chi Minh City and adjacent to the coastal province of Ba Ria-Vung Tau where he molested two 11-year-old girls while living in a villa." http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSHAN24257120080819 _____ Get ideas on sharing photos from people like you. Find new ways to share. Get Ideas Here! _____ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com Tue Aug 19 16:50:08 2008 From: folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com (folk devil) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 13:50:08 -0700 Subject: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos In-Reply-To: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC07215A@mr-pants.the-lab.local> References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC07215A@mr-pants.the-lab.local> Message-ID: but only by the balls.... 11 years old! WTF?! Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 21:46:24 +0100From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.ukTo: gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos Respect ;) You are one of few... -----Original Message-----From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Karen WeilSent: 19 August 2008 21:37To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos I'm a progressive, and I say, "string that bastard up!" That strong enough for you, ade? Cheers, K.W. San Diego _________________________________________________________________ See what people are saying about Windows Live. Check out featured posts. http://www.windowslive.com/connect?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_connect2_082008 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karen.weil at sddt.com Tue Aug 19 16:52:49 2008 From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 13:52:49 -0700 Subject: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC07215A@mr-pants.the-lab.local> Message-ID: <8E417D53948245B8AC4835E6F37C5DB1@edweil> Ade: With all due respect, no, actually I'm not. Look, let's make a deal here: Not all conservatives (Republicans, right-wingers, etc.) are hypocritical, corrupt warmongers who worship George Bush, and not all leftists (liberals, Dems or whatever you want to call them) are wussy, abortion-loving anti-Christians. (I use these cliches to prove a point, and I know a sharp person like yourself understands the context.) And I have no use for scum like Gary Glitter. Keep on trucking, K.W. P.S. If I seem cranky, there's a reson: I'm so damned fed up with how our presidential election is already turning into another nasty, partisan-hyped and issue-free event. (No, I'm not surprised, mind you -- just saddened, because the U.S. and its good people suffer for it.) ----- Original Message ----- From: ade To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 1:46 PM Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos Respect ;) You are one of few... -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Karen Weil Sent: 19 August 2008 21:37 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos I'm a progressive, and I say, "string that bastard up!" That strong enough for you, ade? Cheers, K.W. San Diego ----- Original Message ----- From: ade To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 1:30 PM Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos Of course, we couldn't string him up - that would hurt our (unrealistic) lefty sensibilities... -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: 19 August 2008 17:08 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos "THU DUC, Vietnam (Reuters) - Fallen British rock star Gary Glitter has been freed from a Vietnamese prison after completing a three-years sentence for molesting two young girls, his lawyer said on Tuesday.... State media reported last week Glitter had been doing chores at a prison clinic in Binh Thuan province, 190 km (118 miles) north of Ho Chi Minh City and adjacent to the coastal province of Ba Ria-Vung Tau where he molested two 11-year-old girls while living in a villa." http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSHAN24257120080819 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get ideas on sharing photos from people like you. Find new ways to share. 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Disgusting. k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: folk devil To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 1:50 PM Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos but only by the balls.... 11 years old! WTF?! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 21:46:24 +0100 From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos Respect ;) You are one of few... -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Karen Weil Sent: 19 August 2008 21:37 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos I'm a progressive, and I say, "string that bastard up!" That strong enough for you, ade? Cheers, K.W. San Diego ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ See what people are saying about Windows Live. Check out featured posts. Check It Out! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From antoni at clara.net Tue Aug 19 16:54:22 2008 From: antoni at clara.net (pssyche23) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 21:54:22 +0100 Subject: [kj] No Way Out But Forward Go! References: Message-ID: <005e01c9023d$c2072ac0$0201a8c0@PSSYCHE23> The 1985 Loreley festival set was originally released on CD as NWOBFG in about 2001 on the NMC label in the UK. The video (VHS) bootleg had been in circulation for many years before. NWOBFG contained an audio CD and a video (Quicktime) disc - Mike Coles artwork and a URL to The Last Laugh website. The Loreley set was later re-released as LLB - that remains the only "official" KJ CD release that I don't own. Which label has the new NWOBFG come out on ? Cheers. ----- Original Message ----- From: Stamperdanny at wmconnect.com To: gathering at misera.net Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 9:45 PM Subject: [kj] No Way Out But Forward Go! Can anyone tell me anything about the above item that was released today? Does it come with a bonus dvd? Because if not, then it's just "Love Like Blood" with a different cover. There was a version played up by allmusic guide indicating bonus dvd. That sat on backorder at my local shop for six months or more. Today KOCH records released NWOBFG, along with "Unperverted Pantomime", My local shop was only able to get me Unpervted Pantomime, which by the way is great! Any help you can give will be appreciated. Danny No virus found in this incoming message. 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A L P Here is your Avatar Right click on the image and then save as from the menu to download it. If the image should not be correctly visualized, you can download it as an attachment from this e-mail. Face Your Manga Team welcomes you to our world. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From saulomar1 at yahoo.com Tue Aug 19 17:16:25 2008 From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com (sade1) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:16:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [kj] OT Boycott .the film Tropic Thunder In-Reply-To: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC072149@mr-pants.the-lab.local> Message-ID: <500223.58217.qm@web52611.mail.re2.yahoo.com> blankwerks wroteth: ? > You are supposed to be laughing at their ridiculous behaviour and > that they ARE bigoted idiots** obsessed only with themselves, ? ? ? So I saw the movie yesterday morning, and it was a fun ride. I haven't been to the movies in almost 2 years, but this one made me wanna go (cuz i'm a fan of Stiller's work). ? ? Someone else mentioned "The Man Who Knew Too Little" and Tropic Thunder's plot was similar, except it's in a war-movie setting. It spoofs film-making with plenty of movie and film-industry?references. ? ? By the time you see RoDo,Jr. and BeSti.?profusely saying the words "retarded," "retard" and even "..going full retard,"etc.etc.you already know how far beyond-the-pale these idiots** really are; the dialogue is only to further underline and highlight in neon- yellow?how unbelievably, unforgivingly moronic those self-serving, self-indulgent, bigoted and obliviously self-absorbed these Hollywood "Industry" types really are.? ? It's called Satire. Protected under Federal law, even. ? ** see, "By the way, are there any..."? ????????? [transcript starts paragraph 9] ??? from back when the bigoted threat ??? to?people's?lives was still palpable ??????????????????????????????????? here in u.s.? ? Anyone who finds this movie as an attack on the disabled?either?hasn't seen it, or totally does not get the joke/satire and therefore cannot judge. THIS IS NOT AT ALL like?THE OBAMA COVER ON THE NEW YORKER Magazine. This film provides you full context for the joke, and does so on a silver plate. ? Also, i haven't seen any opponents to the film comment on how Ben Stiller ends up paying his Karmic debt for having denigrated the mentally challenged, how he ends up doing WHITEface theater playing a literally pasty-faced, dried up straw-haired character in a prison camp. ? ? Anyone finding?this movie offensive to mentally challenged people will?prolly find Schindler's List anti-semitic because it shows Amon Goeth gleefully whacking jews left and right..;?will prolly find The Godfather racist towards blacks because?the Mafia dons talk about, "...keep the [heroin] traffic in the dark people, the colored. They're animals anyway so let them lose their souls...." ? ? ???? Full Disclosure... i'd be?for the protests, but if they had seen the film first! Absolutely no harm in that.? ? ? ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current?state of things] 'Save me... ? save me?from Tomorrow.. ?? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...!'?? --- On Mon, 8/18/08, ade wrote: From: ade Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" Date: Monday, August 18, 2008, 12:59 PM It will probably work better over here as we tend to?get that they're playing loathsome characters. A lot of our humour seems cruel, but is actually putting up a mirror to nastiness. Check out Brass Eye or The Day Today if you ever get chance. ? Better still, just keep on censoring, eh. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of blankwerks Sent: 18 August 2008 10:52 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder Again, isn't the inclusion of a clearly white, and not knowedgable about any black issues, actor, blacked up and frankly ludicrous, just part of the story to indicate clearly how out of touch and precious that this bunch of actors are? The whole thing surely is to demonstrate how ridiculously self obsessed and self appreciating this bunch of idiots are, and how they clearly have delusions that their "art" propels them to a status where they are free to comment and judge, and indeed represent by acting any social racial or minority group. You are supposed to be laughing at their ridiculous behaviour and at the fact that they ARE bigoted idiots obsessed only with themselves, not laughing at the word "retard" or the fact that someone has "blacked up". The whole point is that people like this and attitudes like that are outdated and unwanted, and to ridicule people that hold those thoughts and are so dismissive of anyone who doesn't hold the same status as them. You are missing the whole point of those characters - they and their views are the ones that are being ridiculed, not the subjects of their discussion. Plenty of comedy and satirical films and programmes where main characters are used in this way to portray the simple mindedness of the lead character, wouldn't surprise me if the idea of this was lifted by Stiller from the UK version of The Office and more specifically David Brent's treatment and behaviour towards their employee who is a wheelchair user. The whole comedy in those pieces was directed towards the ludicrous views of Brent, and not towards the disabled person. Incidentally, I'm no Stiller fan - but merely because he isn't funny, not because he is some kind of racist disability hating Hollywood star. 2008/8/18 not to forget they have a white guy in black face,racist film aswell.they consulted the NAACP but none of the agencies serving people who experience disabilities. Go figure,why would they care if they make fun of a defenseless group,utter cowards these hollywood people are.Completly Fked off,Cliff > Isn't the film also about the ludicrous behaviour of a group of self > obsessed actors? surely their dismissal and mockery of any group is down to > the fact that they are in fact a load of complete wankers only able to think > about themselves? > > I don't plan on seing the film, but I know the general premise is that they > are arseholes who get taught a lesson and re-evaluate themselves. Their use > of the "retard" word just goes to show how out of touch they are. > > Oh and protesting about it will certainly do one thing - gve it more > publicity. And not get the studio to take it off release. > > > 2008/8/18 > >> Hiya ok here's a tv news story and daily news article from the protest >> boycotting >> the film Tropic Thunder we did on saturday,Peace,Cliff >> >> http://www.ktuu.com/Global/story.asp?S=8853261 >> >> http://www.adn.com/arts/story/496381.html >> >> >> > http://www.adn.com/arts/story/496381.html >> > >> > >> >> Terrific article by Tim Shriver... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *What 'Tropic Thunder' Thinks Is Funny* >> >> By Timothy Shriver >> >> Monday, August 11, 2008; A15 >> >> >> >> I've been told = to keep my sense of humor about the film "Tropic >> Thunder," >> >> which opens = this week. Despite my requests, I have not been given the >> chance >> >> to see = the movie. But I've seen previews, read about it and read >> excerpts = of >> >> the script. By all accounts, it is an unchecked assault on the = >> humanity of >> >> people with intellectual disabilities -- an affront to = dignity, hope >> and >> >> respect. >> >> >> >> Consider this exchange: >> >> >> >> Ben = Stiller's character: "There were times when I was doing Jack when >> = I >> >> actually felt retarded. Like really retarded." >> >> >> >> Robert Downey = Jr.'s character: "Oh yeah. Damn." >> >> >> >> Stiller: "In a weird way, I had = to sort of just free myself up to >> believe >> >> that it was okay to be stupid = or dumb." >> >> >> >> Downey: "To be a moron." >> >> >> >> Stiller: "Yeah." >> >> >> >> At= another point, about acting like a person with intellectual >> disabilities,<= >> >> BR>they say: >> >> >> >> Stiller: "It's what we do, right?" >> >> >> >> Downey: = "Everybody knows you never do a full retard." >> >> >> >> Stiller: "What do you = mean?" >> >> >> >> Downey: "Check it out. Dustin Hoffman, 'Rain Man,' look = retarded, act >> >> retarded, not retarded. Count toothpicks to your cards. = Autistic, >> sure. Not >> >> retarded. You know Tom Hanks, 'Forrest Gump.' Slow, = yes. Retarded, >> maybe. >> >> Braces on his legs. But he charmed the pants off = Nixon and won a >> ping-pong >> >> competition. That ain't retarded. You went = full retard, man. Never go >> full >> >> retard." >> >> >> >> I worked with the = Farrelly brothers on a film on this topic. I know >> about >> >> edgy comedy. = I'm also told that movies are equal-opportunity >> offenders. >> >> >> >> So = here's an equal-opportunity response to the equal-opportunity >> offenders: >> >> People with intellectual disabilities are routinely abused, neglected,= >> >> insulted, institutionalized and even killed around the world. Their = >> parents >> >> are told to give up, that their children are worthless. Schools = turn >> them >> >> away. Doctors refuse to treat them. Employers won't hire = them. None of >> this >> >> is funny. >> >> >> >> For centuries, they have been the = exception to the most basic >> spiritual >> >> principle: that we are each equal = in spirit, capable of reflecting the >> >> goodness of the divine, carriers = of love. But not people with >> intellectual >> >> disabilities. What's a word = commonly applied to them? Hopeless. >> >> >> >> Let's consider where we are in = 2008. Our politics are about overcoming >> >> division, our social movements = are about ending intolerance, our great >> >> philanthropists promote ending = poverty and disease among the world's >> poor. >> >> Are people with intellectual= disabilities included in the mainstream of >> >> these movements? For the = most part, no. >> >> >> >> Why? Because they're different. Their joy doesn't = fit on magazine >> covers. >> >> Their spirituality doesn't come in self-help = television. Their kind of >> >> wealth doesn't command political attention. = (The best of the spirit >> never >> >> does.) >> >> >> >> Sadly, they're such an easy = target that many people don't realize whom >> they >> >> are making fun of when = they use the word "retard." Most people just >> think >> >> it's funny. "Stupid, = idiot, moron, retard." Ha, ha, ha. >> >> >> >> I know: I could be too sensitive.= But I was taught that mean isn't >> funny. >> >> And I've been to institutions = where people with intellectual >> disabilities >> >> are tied to beds or lie on = concrete floors, forgotten. I've heard >> doctors >> >> say they won't treat = them. I know Gallup found that more than 60 >> percent of >> >> Americans don't = want a person with an intellectual disability at their >> >> child's = school. >> >> >> >> I've talked to people with intellectual disabilities who = cry over >> being >> >> insulted on a bus. I've received too many e-mails from = people who are >> >> devastated not by their child's disability but by the = terror of being >> >> laughed at, excluded and economically devastated. >> >> It wasn't funny when Hollywood humiliated African Americans for a >> >> gener= ation. It's never funny when good and decent human beings are >> >> humiliated= . In fact, it is dangerous and disgusting. >> >> >> >> This film is all that = and more. DreamWorks went so far as to create a >> >> mini-version of Simple = Jack and posted it online. The studio has since >> >> pulled it down, = realizing it had gone too far, even in an age of edgy, >> >> R-rated = comedies. >> >> >> >> So, enough. Stop the hurtful jokes. Talk to your children = about >> language >> >> that is bullying and mean. Ask your friends, your = educators, your >> religious >> >> leaders to help us to end the stubborn myth = that people with >> intellectual >> >> disabilities are hopeless. Ask Hollywood = to get on the right side of >> >> dignity. >> >> >> >> I hope others will join me = in shutting this movie out of our lives and >> our >> >> pocketbooks. We don't = live in times when labeling and humiliating >> others is >> >> funny. And we = should send that message far and wide. >> >> >> >> *The writer is chairman of = Special Olympics and a columnist for >> >> washingtonpost.com's On Faith = discussion site.* >> >> >> >> >> >>> It's received mostly good reviews: >> >>> >> >>> http://www.metacritic.com/film/titles/tropicthunder >> >>> >> >>> That's a great website, btw. >> >>> >> >>> -Oliver >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> folk devil wrote: >> >>>> not sure i really want to....too many 'war' films...and a haha to bang >> >>>> bang doesn't really work for me at the mo.. >> >>>> >> >>>> /"/ >> >>>> >> >>>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >>>> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:42:20 -0700 >> >>>> From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com >> >>>> To: gathering at misera.net >> >>>> Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder >> >>>> >> >>>> Anyone seen the movie yet? >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> ... ... ... ... ... ... >> >>>> >> >>>> /*[looking at the current state of things]*/ >> >>>> >> >>>> 'Save me... >> >>>> ? save me from Tomorrow.. >> >>>> ? ?I don't want to /sail //in this Ship Of Fools...!' ? / >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >>>> Your PC, mobile phone, and online services work together like never >> >>>> before. 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Date: Tuesday, August 19, 2008, 1:52 PM #yiv1082989096 .hmmessage P { PADDING-RIGHT:0px;PADDING-LEFT:0px;PADDING-BOTTOM:0px;MARGIN:0px;PADDING-TOP:0px;} #yiv1082989096 { FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma;} ?I'm so?damned fed up with how our presidential election is already -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com Tue Aug 19 17:35:23 2008 From: folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com (folk devil) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:35:23 -0700 Subject: [kj] OT Boycott .the film Tropic Thunder In-Reply-To: <500223.58217.qm@web52611.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC072149@mr-pants.the-lab.local> <500223.58217.qm@web52611.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I guess I'm opposite to you, Sade. I won't go to see the film, because of Stiller. The guy's face is enough to put me off. I am curious whether this is something of a 'cultural difference' between North Americans and Euros and Antipodeans?? I had no recollection of him being in Empire of the Sun? Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:16:25 -0700From: saulomar1 at yahoo.comTo: gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott .the film Tropic Thunder blankwerks wroteth: > You are supposed to be laughing at their ridiculous behaviour and > that they ARE bigoted idiots** obsessed only with themselves, So I saw the movie yesterday morning, and it was a fun ride. I haven't been to the movies in almost 2 years, but this one made me wanna go (cuz i'm a fan of Stiller's work). ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...!' --- On Mon, 8/18/08, ade wrote: From: ade Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic ThunderTo: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" Date: Monday, August 18, 2008, 12:59 PM It will probably work better over here as we tend to get that they're playing loathsome characters. A lot of our humour seems cruel, but is actually putting up a mirror to nastiness. Check out Brass Eye or The Day Today if you ever get chance. Better still, just keep on censoring, eh. -----Original Message-----From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of blankwerksSent: 18 August 2008 10:52To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder Again, isn't the inclusion of a clearly white, and not knowedgable about any black issues, actor, blacked up and frankly ludicrous, just part of the story to indicate clearly how out of touch and precious that this bunch of actors are?The whole thing surely is to demonstrate how ridiculously self obsessed and self appreciating this bunch of idiots are, and how they clearly have delusions that their "art" propels them to a status where they are free to comment and judge, and indeed represent by acting any social racial or minority group.You are supposed to be laughing at their ridiculous behaviour and at the fact that they ARE bigoted idiots obsessed only with themselves, not laughing at the word "retard" or the fact that someone has "blacked up". The whole point is that people like this and attitudes like that are outdated and unwanted, and to ridicule people that hold those thoughts and are so dismissive of anyone who doesn't hold the same status as them.You are missing the whole point of those characters - they and their views are the ones that are being ridiculed, not the subjects of their discussion. Plenty of comedy and satirical films and programmes where main characters are used in this way to portray the simple mindedness of the lead character, wouldn't surprise me if the idea of this was lifted by Stiller from the UK version of The Office and more specifically David Brent's treatment and behaviour towards their employee who is a wheelchair user. The whole comedy in those pieces was directed towards the ludicrous views of Brent, and not towards the disabled person.Incidentally, I'm no Stiller fan - but merely because he isn't funny, not because he is some kind of racist disability hating Hollywood star. 2008/8/18 not to forget they have a white guy in black face,racist film aswell.they consultedthe NAACP but none of the agencies serving people who experience disabilities.Go figure,why would they care if they make fun of a defenseless group,utter cowardsthese hollywood people are.Completly Fked off,Cliff > Isn't the film also about the ludicrous behaviour of a group of self> obsessed actors? surely their dismissal and mockery of any group is down to> the fact that they are in fact a load of complete wankers only able to think> about themselves?>> I don't plan on seing the film, but I know the general premise is that they> are arseholes who get taught a lesson and re-evaluate themselves. Their use> of the "retard" word just goes to show how out of touch they are.>> Oh and protesting about it will certainly do one thing - gve it more> publicity. And not get the studio to take it off release.>>> 2008/8/18 >>> Hiya ok here's a tv news story and daily news article from the protest>> boycotting>> the film Tropic Thunder we did on saturday,Peace,Cliff>>>> http://www.ktuu.com/Global/story.asp?S=8853261>>>> http://www.adn.com/arts/story/496381.html>>>>>> > http://www.adn.com/arts/story/496381.html>> >>> >>> >> Terrific article by Tim Shriver...>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> *What 'Tropic Thunder' Thinks Is Funny*>> >> By Timothy Shriver>> >> Monday, August 11, 2008; A15>> >>>> >> I've been told = to keep my sense of humor about the film "Tropic>> Thunder,">> >> which opens = this week. Despite my requests, I have not been given the>> chance>> >> to see = the movie. But I've seen previews, read about it and read>> excerpts = of>> >> the script. By all accounts, it is an unchecked assault on the =>> humanity of>> >> people with intellectual disabilities -- an affront to = dignity, hope>> and>> >> respect.>> >>>> >> Consider this exchange:>> >>>> >> Ben = Stiller's character: "There were times when I was doing Jack when>> = I>> >> actually felt retarded. Like really retarded.">> >>>> >> Robert Downey = Jr.'s character: "Oh yeah. Damn.">> >>>> >> Stiller: "In a weird way, I had = to sort of just free myself up to>> believe>> >> that it was okay to be stupid = or dumb.">> >>>> >> Downey: "To be a moron.">> >>>> >> Stiller: "Yeah.">> >>>> >> At= another point, about acting like a person with intellectual>> disabilities,<=>> >> BR>they say:>> >>>> >> Stiller: "It's what we do, right?">> >>>> >> Downey: = "Everybody knows you never do a full retard.">> >>>> >> Stiller: "What do you = mean?">> >>>> >> Downey: "Check it out. Dustin Hoffman, 'Rain Man,' look = retarded, act>> >> retarded, not retarded. Count toothpicks to your cards. = Autistic,>> sure. Not>> >> retarded. You know Tom Hanks, 'Forrest Gump.' Slow, = yes. Retarded,>> maybe.>> >> Braces on his legs. But he charmed the pants off = Nixon and won a>> ping-pong>> >> competition. That ain't retarded. You went = full retard, man. Never go>> full>> >> retard.">> >>>> >> I worked with the = Farrelly brothers on a film on this topic. I know>> about>> >> edgy comedy. = I'm also told that movies are equal-opportunity>> offenders.>> >>>> >> So = here's an equal-opportunity response to the equal-opportunity>> offenders:>> >> People with intellectual disabilities are routinely abused, neglected,=>> >> insulted, institutionalized and even killed around the world. Their =>> parents>> >> are told to give up, that their children are worthless. Schools = turn>> them>> >> away. Doctors refuse to treat them. Employers won't hire = them. None of>> this>> >> is funny.>> >>>> >> For centuries, they have been the = exception to the most basic>> spiritual>> >> principle: that we are each equal = in spirit, capable of reflecting the>> >> goodness of the divine, carriers = of love. But not people with>> intellectual>> >> disabilities. What's a word = commonly applied to them? Hopeless.>> >>>> >> Let's consider where we are in = 2008. Our politics are about overcoming>> >> division, our social movements = are about ending intolerance, our great>> >> philanthropists promote ending = poverty and disease among the world's>> poor.>> >> Are people with intellectual= disabilities included in the mainstream of>> >> these movements? For the = most part, no.>> >>>> >> Why? Because they're different. Their joy doesn't = fit on magazine>> covers.>> >> Their spirituality doesn't come in self-help = television. Their kind of>> >> wealth doesn't command political attention. = (The best of the spirit>> never>> >> does.)>> >>>> >> Sadly, they're such an easy = target that many people don't realize whom>> they>> >> are making fun of when = they use the word "retard." Most people just>> think>> >> it's funny. "Stupid, = idiot, moron, retard." Ha, ha, ha.>> >>>> >> I know: I could be too sensitive.= But I was taught that mean isn't>> funny.>> >> And I've been to institutions = where people with intellectual>> disabilities>> >> are tied to beds or lie on = concrete floors, forgotten. I've heard>> doctors>> >> say they won't treat = them. I know Gallup found that more than 60>> percent of>> >> Americans don't = want a person with an intellectual disability at their>> >> child's = school.>> >>>> >> I've talked to people with intellectual disabilities who = cry over>> being>> >> insulted on a bus. I've received too many e-mails from = people who are>> >> devastated not by their child's disability but by the = terror of being>> >> laughed at, excluded and economically devastated.>> >> It wasn't funny when Hollywood humiliated African Americans for a>> >> gener= ation. It's never funny when good and decent human beings are>> >> humiliated= . In fact, it is dangerous and disgusting.>> >>>> >> This film is all that = and more. DreamWorks went so far as to create a>> >> mini-version of Simple = Jack and posted it online. The studio has since>> >> pulled it down, = realizing it had gone too far, even in an age of edgy,>> >> R-rated = comedies.>> >>>> >> So, enough. Stop the hurtful jokes. Talk to your children = about>> language>> >> that is bullying and mean. Ask your friends, your = educators, your>> religious>> >> leaders to help us to end the stubborn myth = that people with>> intellectual>> >> disabilities are hopeless. Ask Hollywood = to get on the right side of>> >> dignity.>> >>>> >> I hope others will join me = in shutting this movie out of our lives and>> our>> >> pocketbooks. We don't = live in times when labeling and humiliating>> others is>> >> funny. And we = should send that message far and wide.>> >>>> >> *The writer is chairman of = Special Olympics and a columnist for>> >> washingtonpost.com's On Faith = discussion site.*>> >>>> >>>> >>> It's received mostly good reviews:>> >>>>> >>> http://www.metacritic.com/film/titles/tropicthunder>> >>>>> >>> That's a great website, btw.>> >>>>> >>> -Oliver>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> folk devil wrote:>> >>>> not sure i really want to....too many 'war' films...and a haha to bang>> >>>> bang doesn't really work for me at the mo..>> >>>>>> >>>> /"/>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------>> >>>> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:42:20 -0700>> >>>> From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com>> >>>> To: gathering at misera.net>> >>>> Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder>> >>>>>> >>>> Anyone seen the movie yet?>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> ... ... ... ... ... ...>> >>>>>> >>>> /*[looking at the current state of things]*/>> >>>>>> >>>> 'Save me...>> >>>> save me from Tomorrow..>> >>>> I don't want to /sail //in this Ship Of Fools...!' />> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------>> >>>> Your PC, mobile phone, and online services work together like never>> >>>> before. 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I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...!'?? --- On Tue, 8/19/08, folk devil wrote: From: folk devil Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott .the film Tropic Thunder To: gathering at misera.net Date: Tuesday, August 19, 2008, 2:35 PM #yiv143448153 .hmmessage P { margin:0px;padding:0px;} #yiv143448153 { FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma;} I guess I'm opposite to you, Sade. I won't go to see the film, because of Stiller. The guy's face?is enough to put?me off. I am curious whether this is something of a 'cultural difference' between North Americans and Euros and Antipodeans??? I had no recollection of him being in Empire of the Sun? Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:16:25 -0700 From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott .the film Tropic Thunder blankwerks wroteth: ? > You are supposed to be laughing at their ridiculous behaviour and > that they ARE bigoted idiots** obsessed only with themselves, ? ? ? So I saw the movie yesterday morning, and it was a fun ride. I haven't been to the movies in almost 2 years, but this one made me wanna go (cuz i'm a fan of Stiller's work). ? ? ? ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current?state of things] 'Save me... ? save me?from Tomorrow.. ?? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...!'?? --- On Mon, 8/18/08, ade wrote: From: ade Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" Date: Monday, August 18, 2008, 12:59 PM It will probably work better over here as we tend to?get that they're playing loathsome characters. A lot of our humour seems cruel, but is actually putting up a mirror to nastiness. Check out Brass Eye or The Day Today if you ever get chance. ? Better still, just keep on censoring, eh. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of blankwerks Sent: 18 August 2008 10:52 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder Again, isn't the inclusion of a clearly white, and not knowedgable about any black issues, actor, blacked up and frankly ludicrous, just part of the story to indicate clearly how out of touch and precious that this bunch of actors are? The whole thing surely is to demonstrate how ridiculously self obsessed and self appreciating this bunch of idiots are, and how they clearly have delusions that their "art" propels them to a status where they are free to comment and judge, and indeed represent by acting any social racial or minority group. You are supposed to be laughing at their ridiculous behaviour and at the fact that they ARE bigoted idiots obsessed only with themselves, not laughing at the word "retard" or the fact that someone has "blacked up". The whole point is that people like this and attitudes like that are outdated and unwanted, and to ridicule people that hold those thoughts and are so dismissive of anyone who doesn't hold the same status as them. You are missing the whole point of those characters - they and their views are the ones that are being ridiculed, not the subjects of their discussion. Plenty of comedy and satirical films and programmes where main characters are used in this way to portray the simple mindedness of the lead character, wouldn't surprise me if the idea of this was lifted by Stiller from the UK version of The Office and more specifically David Brent's treatment and behaviour towards their employee who is a wheelchair user. The whole comedy in those pieces was directed towards the ludicrous views of Brent, and not towards the disabled person. Incidentally, I'm no Stiller fan - but merely because he isn't funny, not because he is some kind of racist disability hating Hollywood star. 2008/8/18 not to forget they have a white guy in black face,racist film aswell.they consulted the NAACP but none of the agencies serving people who experience disabilities. Go figure,why would they care if they make fun of a defenseless group,utter cowards these hollywood people are.Completly Fked off,Cliff > Isn't the film also about the ludicrous behaviour of a group of self > obsessed actors? surely their dismissal and mockery of any group is down to > the fact that they are in fact a load of complete wankers only able to think > about themselves? > > I don't plan on seing the film, but I know the general premise is that they > are arseholes who get taught a lesson and re-evaluate themselves. Their use > of the "retard" word just goes to show how out of touch they are. > > Oh and protesting about it will certainly do one thing - gve it more > publicity. And not get the studio to take it off release. > > > 2008/8/18 > >> Hiya ok here's a tv news story and daily news article from the protest >> boycotting >> the film Tropic Thunder we did on saturday,Peace,Cliff >> >> http://www.ktuu.com/Global/story.asp?S=8853261 >> >> http://www.adn.com/arts/story/496381.html >> >> >> > http://www.adn.com/arts/story/496381.html >> > >> > >> >> Terrific article by Tim Shriver... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *What 'Tropic Thunder' Thinks Is Funny* >> >> By Timothy Shriver >> >> Monday, August 11, 2008; A15 >> >> >> >> I've been told = to keep my sense of humor about the film "Tropic >> Thunder," >> >> which opens = this week. Despite my requests, I have not been given the >> chance >> >> to see = the movie. But I've seen previews, read about it and read >> excerpts = of >> >> the script. By all accounts, it is an unchecked assault on the = >> humanity of >> >> people with intellectual disabilities -- an affront to = dignity, hope >> and >> >> respect. >> >> >> >> Consider this exchange: >> >> >> >> Ben = Stiller's character: "There were times when I was doing Jack when >> = I >> >> actually felt retarded. Like really retarded." >> >> >> >> Robert Downey = Jr.'s character: "Oh yeah. Damn." >> >> >> >> Stiller: "In a weird way, I had = to sort of just free myself up to >> believe >> >> that it was okay to be stupid = or dumb." >> >> >> >> Downey: "To be a moron." >> >> >> >> Stiller: "Yeah." >> >> >> >> At= another point, about acting like a person with intellectual >> disabilities,<= >> >> BR>they say: >> >> >> >> Stiller: "It's what we do, right?" >> >> >> >> Downey: = "Everybody knows you never do a full retard." >> >> >> >> Stiller: "What do you = mean?" >> >> >> >> Downey: "Check it out. Dustin Hoffman, 'Rain Man,' look = retarded, act >> >> retarded, not retarded. Count toothpicks to your cards. = Autistic, >> sure. Not >> >> retarded. You know Tom Hanks, 'Forrest Gump.' Slow, = yes. Retarded, >> maybe. >> >> Braces on his legs. But he charmed the pants off = Nixon and won a >> ping-pong >> >> competition. That ain't retarded. You went = full retard, man. Never go >> full >> >> retard." >> >> >> >> I worked with the = Farrelly brothers on a film on this topic. I know >> about >> >> edgy comedy. = I'm also told that movies are equal-opportunity >> offenders. >> >> >> >> So = here's an equal-opportunity response to the equal-opportunity >> offenders: >> >> People with intellectual disabilities are routinely abused, neglected,= >> >> insulted, institutionalized and even killed around the world. Their = >> parents >> >> are told to give up, that their children are worthless. Schools = turn >> them >> >> away. Doctors refuse to treat them. Employers won't hire = them. None of >> this >> >> is funny. >> >> >> >> For centuries, they have been the = exception to the most basic >> spiritual >> >> principle: that we are each equal = in spirit, capable of reflecting the >> >> goodness of the divine, carriers = of love. But not people with >> intellectual >> >> disabilities. What's a word = commonly applied to them? Hopeless. >> >> >> >> Let's consider where we are in = 2008. Our politics are about overcoming >> >> division, our social movements = are about ending intolerance, our great >> >> philanthropists promote ending = poverty and disease among the world's >> poor. >> >> Are people with intellectual= disabilities included in the mainstream of >> >> these movements? For the = most part, no. >> >> >> >> Why? Because they're different. Their joy doesn't = fit on magazine >> covers. >> >> Their spirituality doesn't come in self-help = television. Their kind of >> >> wealth doesn't command political attention. = (The best of the spirit >> never >> >> does.) >> >> >> >> Sadly, they're such an easy = target that many people don't realize whom >> they >> >> are making fun of when = they use the word "retard." Most people just >> think >> >> it's funny. "Stupid, = idiot, moron, retard." Ha, ha, ha. >> >> >> >> I know: I could be too sensitive.= But I was taught that mean isn't >> funny. >> >> And I've been to institutions = where people with intellectual >> disabilities >> >> are tied to beds or lie on = concrete floors, forgotten. I've heard >> doctors >> >> say they won't treat = them. I know Gallup found that more than 60 >> percent of >> >> Americans don't = want a person with an intellectual disability at their >> >> child's = school. >> >> >> >> I've talked to people with intellectual disabilities who = cry over >> being >> >> insulted on a bus. I've received too many e-mails from = people who are >> >> devastated not by their child's disability but by the = terror of being >> >> laughed at, excluded and economically devastated. >> >> It wasn't funny when Hollywood humiliated African Americans for a >> >> gener= ation. It's never funny when good and decent human beings are >> >> humiliated= . In fact, it is dangerous and disgusting. >> >> >> >> This film is all that = and more. DreamWorks went so far as to create a >> >> mini-version of Simple = Jack and posted it online. The studio has since >> >> pulled it down, = realizing it had gone too far, even in an age of edgy, >> >> R-rated = comedies. >> >> >> >> So, enough. Stop the hurtful jokes. Talk to your children = about >> language >> >> that is bullying and mean. Ask your friends, your = educators, your >> religious >> >> leaders to help us to end the stubborn myth = that people with >> intellectual >> >> disabilities are hopeless. Ask Hollywood = to get on the right side of >> >> dignity. >> >> >> >> I hope others will join me = in shutting this movie out of our lives and >> our >> >> pocketbooks. We don't = live in times when labeling and humiliating >> others is >> >> funny. And we = should send that message far and wide. >> >> >> >> *The writer is chairman of = Special Olympics and a columnist for >> >> washingtonpost.com's On Faith = discussion site.* >> >> >> >> >> >>> It's received mostly good reviews: >> >>> >> >>> http://www.metacritic.com/film/titles/tropicthunder >> >>> >> >>> That's a great website, btw. >> >>> >> >>> -Oliver >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> folk devil wrote: >> >>>> not sure i really want to....too many 'war' films...and a haha to bang >> >>>> bang doesn't really work for me at the mo.. >> >>>> >> >>>> /"/ >> >>>> >> >>>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >>>> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:42:20 -0700 >> >>>> From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com >> >>>> To: gathering at misera.net >> >>>> Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder >> >>>> >> >>>> Anyone seen the movie yet? >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> ... ... ... ... ... ... >> >>>> >> >>>> /*[looking at the current state of things]*/ >> >>>> >> >>>> 'Save me... >> >>>> ? save me from Tomorrow.. >> >>>> ? ?I don't want to /sail //in this Ship Of Fools...!' ? / >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >>>> Your PC, mobile phone, and online services work together like never >> >>>> before. 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Friends via Windows Live Messenger. Find Out How _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net Tue Aug 19 17:46:20 2008 From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net (B. Oliver Sheppard) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:46:20 -0500 Subject: [kj] OT Boycott .the film Tropic Thunder In-Reply-To: References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC072149@mr-pants.the-lab.local> <500223.58217.qm@web52611.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <48AB3F2C.3080406@sbcglobal.net> Stiller had a very bit part at a young age in Empire of the Sun. I am a fan of about 50% of Stiller's works, personally. Hated Night at the Museum, liked Something About Mary and Meet the Parents (but not the sequel), which I think are his two best. I do like Zoolander. As one critic noted, he either plays a supremely UN-confident man, crouching through life awaiting the next insult or put-down (Meet the Parents), or he plays an over-the-top arrogantly confident, yet absurd guy -- as in his role in Dodgeball, which I kind of liked. It's the latter he also apparently plays in Tropic Thunder. I am starved for comedies that actually make me laugh, so I might see Tropic Thunder. Maybe I'll try to find a way to see it without paying, in case the dsiability put-dpwns really are gratuitous. But my understanding is that Still and the other characetrs are unlikable jerks anyway, very self-obsessed, so they're using the word retard is "in character" for them, and adds to their unlikable-ness. -Oliver folk devil wrote: > I guess I'm opposite to you, Sade. I won't go to see the film, because > of Stiller. The guy's face is enough to put me off. > I am curious whether this is something of a 'cultural difference' > between North Americans and Euros and Antipodeans?? > I had no recollection of him being in Empire of the Sun? > From saulomar1 at yahoo.com Tue Aug 19 17:46:53 2008 From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com (sade1) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:46:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <270198.43326.qm@web52601.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Knowing those bastards, they'd both incorporate themselves as *gasp* non-profits! ? ? ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current?state of things] 'Save me... ? save me?from Tomorrow.. ?? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...!'?? --- On Tue, 8/19/08, folk devil wrote: From: folk devil Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos To: gathering at misera.net Date: Tuesday, August 19, 2008, 2:38 PM #yiv164752755 .hmmessage P { margin:0px;padding:0px;} #yiv164752755 { FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma;} i wish we could see both candidates' corporate representatives! ;) " ? Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:34:56 -0700 From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos > I'm so?damned fed up with how our presidential election is already ? ?? The thought of voting between?Reps. or Dems.?no longer makes me feel proudly involved,?but almonst?"complicit"?in something.. ? ? I really wish there were third and fourth parties to choose from... oh well.. ... ... ... ... ... ... [ Get thousands of games on your PC, your mobile phone, and the web with Windows?. Game with Windows _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From saulomar1 at yahoo.com Tue Aug 19 17:50:41 2008 From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com (sade1) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:50:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder In-Reply-To: <33013.72.42.164.101.1219052169.squirrel@mymail.acsalaska.net> Message-ID: <168847.52882.qm@web52609.mail.re2.yahoo.com> And they have a jew guy making whiteface with white paste and a straw wig for straw hair: who can I sue? ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current?state of things] 'Save me... ? save me?from Tomorrow.. ?? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...!'?? --- On Mon, 8/18/08, cliffmonka at alaska.net wrote: From: cliffmonka at alaska.net Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" Date: Monday, August 18, 2008, 2:36 AM not to forget they have a white guy in black face,racist film aswell.they consulted the NAACP but none of the agencies serving people who experience disabilities. Go figure,why would they care if they make fun of a defenseless group,utter cowards these hollywood people are.Completly Fked off,Cliff > Isn't the film also about the ludicrous behaviour of a group of self > obsessed actors? surely their dismissal and mockery of any group is down to > the fact that they are in fact a load of complete wankers only able to think > about themselves? > > I don't plan on seing the film, but I know the general premise is that they > are arseholes who get taught a lesson and re-evaluate themselves. Their use > of the "retard" word just goes to show how out of touch they are. > > Oh and protesting about it will certainly do one thing - gve it more > publicity. And not get the studio to take it off release. > > > 2008/8/18 > >> Hiya ok here's a tv news story and daily news article from the protest >> boycotting >> the film Tropic Thunder we did on saturday,Peace,Cliff >> >> http://www.ktuu.com/Global/story.asp?S=8853261 >> >> http://www.adn.com/arts/story/496381.html >> >> >> > http://www.adn.com/arts/story/496381.html >> > >> > >> >> Terrific article by Tim Shriver... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *What 'Tropic Thunder' Thinks Is Funny* >> >> By Timothy Shriver >> >> Monday, August 11, 2008; A15 >> >> >> >> I've been told = to keep my sense of humor about the film "Tropic >> Thunder," >> >> which opens = this week. Despite my requests, I have not been given the >> chance >> >> to see = the movie. But I've seen previews, read about it and read >> excerpts = of >> >> the script. By all accounts, it is an unchecked assault on the = >> humanity of >> >> people with intellectual disabilities -- an affront to = dignity, hope >> and >> >> respect. >> >> >> >> Consider this exchange: >> >> >> >> Ben = Stiller's character: "There were times when I was doing Jack when >> = I >> >> actually felt retarded. Like really retarded." >> >> >> >> Robert Downey = Jr.'s character: "Oh yeah. Damn." >> >> >> >> Stiller: "In a weird way, I had = to sort of just free myself up to >> believe >> >> that it was okay to be stupid = or dumb." >> >> >> >> Downey: "To be a moron." >> >> >> >> Stiller: "Yeah." >> >> >> >> At= another point, about acting like a person with intellectual >> disabilities,<= >> >> BR>they say: >> >> >> >> Stiller: "It's what we do, right?" >> >> >> >> Downey: = "Everybody knows you never do a full retard." >> >> >> >> Stiller: "What do you = mean?" >> >> >> >> Downey: "Check it out. Dustin Hoffman, 'Rain Man,' look = retarded, act >> >> retarded, not retarded. Count toothpicks to your cards. = Autistic, >> sure. Not >> >> retarded. You know Tom Hanks, 'Forrest Gump.' Slow, = yes. Retarded, >> maybe. >> >> Braces on his legs. But he charmed the pants off = Nixon and won a >> ping-pong >> >> competition. That ain't retarded. You went = full retard, man. Never go >> full >> >> retard." >> >> >> >> I worked with the = Farrelly brothers on a film on this topic. I know >> about >> >> edgy comedy. = I'm also told that movies are equal-opportunity >> offenders. >> >> >> >> So = here's an equal-opportunity response to the equal-opportunity >> offenders: >> >> People with intellectual disabilities are routinely abused, neglected,= >> >> insulted, institutionalized and even killed around the world. Their = >> parents >> >> are told to give up, that their children are worthless. Schools = turn >> them >> >> away. Doctors refuse to treat them. Employers won't hire = them. None of >> this >> >> is funny. >> >> >> >> For centuries, they have been the = exception to the most basic >> spiritual >> >> principle: that we are each equal = in spirit, capable of reflecting the >> >> goodness of the divine, carriers = of love. But not people with >> intellectual >> >> disabilities. What's a word = commonly applied to them? Hopeless. >> >> >> >> Let's consider where we are in = 2008. Our politics are about overcoming >> >> division, our social movements = are about ending intolerance, our great >> >> philanthropists promote ending = poverty and disease among the world's >> poor. >> >> Are people with intellectual= disabilities included in the mainstream of >> >> these movements? For the = most part, no. >> >> >> >> Why? Because they're different. Their joy doesn't = fit on magazine >> covers. >> >> Their spirituality doesn't come in self-help = television. Their kind of >> >> wealth doesn't command political attention. = (The best of the spirit >> never >> >> does.) >> >> >> >> Sadly, they're such an easy = target that many people don't realize whom >> they >> >> are making fun of when = they use the word "retard." Most people just >> think >> >> it's funny. "Stupid, = idiot, moron, retard." Ha, ha, ha. >> >> >> >> I know: I could be too sensitive.= But I was taught that mean isn't >> funny. >> >> And I've been to institutions = where people with intellectual >> disabilities >> >> are tied to beds or lie on = concrete floors, forgotten. I've heard >> doctors >> >> say they won't treat = them. I know Gallup found that more than 60 >> percent of >> >> Americans don't = want a person with an intellectual disability at their >> >> child's = school. >> >> >> >> I've talked to people with intellectual disabilities who = cry over >> being >> >> insulted on a bus. I've received too many e-mails from = people who are >> >> devastated not by their child's disability but by the = terror of being >> >> laughed at, excluded and economically devastated. >> >> It wasn't funny when Hollywood humiliated African Americans for a >> >> gener= ation. It's never funny when good and decent human beings are >> >> humiliated= . In fact, it is dangerous and disgusting. >> >> >> >> This film is all that = and more. DreamWorks went so far as to create a >> >> mini-version of Simple = Jack and posted it online. The studio has since >> >> pulled it down, = realizing it had gone too far, even in an age of edgy, >> >> R-rated = comedies. >> >> >> >> So, enough. Stop the hurtful jokes. Talk to your children = about >> language >> >> that is bullying and mean. Ask your friends, your = educators, your >> religious >> >> leaders to help us to end the stubborn myth = that people with >> intellectual >> >> disabilities are hopeless. Ask Hollywood = to get on the right side of >> >> dignity. >> >> >> >> I hope others will join me = in shutting this movie out of our lives and >> our >> >> pocketbooks. We don't = live in times when labeling and humiliating >> others is >> >> funny. And we = should send that message far and wide. >> >> >> >> *The writer is chairman of = Special Olympics and a columnist for >> >> washingtonpost.com's On Faith = discussion site.* >> >> >> >> >> >>> It's received mostly good reviews: >> >>> >> >>> http://www.metacritic.com/film/titles/tropicthunder >> >>> >> >>> That's a great website, btw. >> >>> >> >>> -Oliver >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> folk devil wrote: >> >>>> not sure i really want to....too many 'war' films...and a haha to bang >> >>>> bang doesn't really work for me at the mo.. >> >>>> >> >>>> /"/ >> >>>> >> >>>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >>>> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:42:20 -0700 >> >>>> From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com >> >>>> To: gathering at misera.net >> >>>> Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder >> >>>> >> >>>> Anyone seen the movie yet? >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> ... ... ... ... ... ... >> >>>> >> >>>> /*[looking at the current state of things]*/ >> >>>> >> >>>> 'Save me... >> >>>> save me from Tomorrow.. >> >>>> I don't want to /sail //in this Ship Of Fools...!' / >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >>>> Your PC, mobile phone, and online services work together like never >> >>>> before. 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Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 10:24 PM Subject: Re: [kj] ot eastenders hi antoni apparently,bradly was showing my niece around-- jacks flat and the three year old(her son)was in the push chair ,it was only a small role,but could be the start of something big for them there going to appear in east enders again later next month ;D i wish her so much luck as she has not had alot recently From: antoni at clara.netTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 21:45:36 +0100Subject: Re: [kj] ot eastenders Wow Mel ... tell us more, names etc ... 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URL: From ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk Tue Aug 19 18:00:57 2008 From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk (ade) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 23:00:57 +0100 Subject: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder Message-ID: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC07215C@mr-pants.the-lab.local> Clearly racism. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of sade1 Sent: 19 August 2008 22:51 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder And they have a jew guy making whiteface with white paste and a straw wig for straw hair: who can I sue? ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...!' --- On Mon, 8/18/08, cliffmonka at alaska.net wrote: From: cliffmonka at alaska.net Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" Date: Monday, August 18, 2008, 2:36 AM not to forget they have a white guy in black face,racist film aswell.they consulted the NAACP but none of the agencies serving people who experience disabilities. Go figure,why would they care if they make fun of a defenseless group,utter cowards these hollywood people are.Completly Fked off,Cliff > Isn't the film also about the ludicrous behaviour of a group of self > obsessed actors? surely their dismissal and mockery of any group is down to > the fact that they are in fact a load of complete wankers only able to think > about themselves? > > I don't plan on seing the film, but I know the general premise is that they > are arseholes who get taught a lesson and re-evaluate themselves. Their use > of the "retard" word just goes to show how out of touch they are. > > Oh and protesting about it will certainly do one thing - gve it more > publicity. And not get the studio to take it off release. > > > 2008/8/18 > >> Hiya ok here's a tv news story and daily news article from the protest >> boycotting >> the film Tropic Thunder we did on saturday,Peace,Cliff >> >> http://www.ktuu.com/Global/story.asp?S=8853261 >> >> http://www.adn.com/arts/story/496381.html >> >> >> > http://www.adn.com/arts/story/496381.html >> > >> > >> >> Terrific article by Tim Shriver... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *What 'Tropic Thunder' Thinks Is Funny* >> >> By Timothy Shriver >> >> Monday, August 11, 2008; A15 >> >> >> >> I've been told = to keep my sense of humor about the film "Tropic >> Thunder," >> >> which opens = this week. Despite my requests, I have not been given the >> chance >> >> to see = the movie. But I've seen previews, read about it and read >> excerpts = of >> >> the script. By all accounts, it is an unchecked assault on the = >> humanity of >> >> people with intellectual disabilities -- an affront to = dignity, hope >> and >> >> respect. >> >> >> >> Consider this exchange: >> >> >> >> Ben = Stiller's character: "There were times when I was doing Jack when >> = I >> >> actually felt retarded. Like really retarded." >> >> >> >> Robert Downey = Jr.'s character: "Oh yeah. Damn." >> >> >> >> Stiller: "In a weird way, I had = to sort of just free myself up to >> believe >> >> that it was okay to be stupid = or dumb." >> >> >> >> Downey: "To be a moron." >> >> >> >> Stiller: "Yeah." >> >> >> >> At= another point, about acting like a person with intellectual >> disabilities,<= >> >> BR>they say: >> >> >> >> Stiller: "It's what we do, right?" >> >> >> >> Downey: = "Everybody knows you never do a full retard." >> >> >> >> Stiller: "What do you = mean?" >> >> >> >> Downey: "Check it out. Dustin Hoffman, 'Rain Man,' look = retarded, act >> >> retarded, not retarded. Count toothpicks to your cards. = Autistic, >> sure. Not >> >> retarded. You know Tom Hanks, 'Forrest Gump.' Slow, = yes. Retarded, >> maybe. >> >> Braces on his legs. But he charmed the pants off = Nixon and won a >> ping-pong >> >> competition. That ain't retarded. You went = full retard, man. Never go >> full >> >> retard." >> >> >> >> I worked with the = Farrelly brothers on a film on this topic. I know >> about >> >> edgy comedy. = I'm also told that movies are equal-opportunity >> offenders. >> >> >> >> So = here's an equal-opportunity response to the equal-opportunity >> offenders: >> >> People with intellectual disabilities are routinely abused, neglected,= >> >> insulted, institutionalized and even killed around the world. Their = >> parents >> >> are told to give up, that their children are worthless. Schools = turn >> them >> >> away. Doctors refuse to treat them. Employers won't hire = them. None of >> this >> >> is funny. >> >> >> >> For centuries, they have been the = exception to the most basic >> spiritual >> >> principle: that we are each equal = in spirit, capable of reflecting the >> >> goodness of the divine, carriers = of love. But not people with >> intellectual >> >> disabilities. What's a word = commonly applied to them? Hopeless. >> >> >> >> Let's consider where we are in = 2008. Our politics are about overcoming >> >> division, our social movements = are about ending intolerance, our great >> >> philanthropists promote ending = poverty and disease among the world's >> poor. >> >> Are people with intellectual= disabilities included in the mainstream of >> >> these movements? For the = most part, no. >> >> >> >> Why? Because they're different. Their joy doesn't = fit on magazine >> covers. >> >> Their spirituality doesn't come in self-help = television. Their kind of >> >> wealth doesn't command political attention. = (The best of the spirit >> never >> >> does.) >> >> >> >> Sadly, they're such an easy = target that many people don't realize whom >> they >> >> are making fun of when = they use the word "retard." Most people just >> think >> >> it's funny. "Stupid, = idiot, moron, retard." Ha, ha, ha. >> >> >> >> I know: I could be too sensitive.= But I was taught that mean isn't >> funny. >> >> And I've been to institutions = where people with intellectual >> disabilities >> >> are tied to beds or lie on = concrete floors, forgotten. I've heard >> doctors >> >> say they won't treat = them. I know Gallup found that more than 60 >> percent of >> >> Americans don't = want a person with an intellectual disability at their >> >> child's = school. >> >> >> >> I've talked to people with intellectual disabilities who = cry over >> being >> >> insulted on a bus. I've received too many e-mails from = people who are >> >> devastated not by their child's disability but by the = terror of being >> >> laughed at, excluded and economically devastated. >> >> It wasn't funny when Hollywood humiliated African Americans for a >> >> gener= ation. It's never funny when good and decent human beings are >> >> humiliated= . In fact, it is dangerous and disgusting. >> >> >> >> This film is all that = and more. DreamWorks went so far as to create a >> >> mini-version of Simple = Jack and posted it online. The studio has since >> >> pulled it down, = realizing it had gone too far, even in an age of edgy, >> >> R-rated = comedies. >> >> >> >> So, enough. Stop the hurtful jokes. Talk to your children = about >> language >> >> that is bullying and mean. Ask your friends, your = educators, your >> religious >> >> leaders to help us to end the stubborn myth = that people with >> intellectual >> >> disabilities are hopeless. Ask Hollywood = to get on the right side of >> >> dignity. >> >> >> >> I hope others will join me = in shutting this movie out of our lives and >> our >> >> pocketbooks. We don't = live in times when labeling and humiliating >> others is >> >> funny. And we = should send that message far and wide. >> >> >> >> *The writer is chairman of = Special Olympics and a columnist for >> >> washingtonpost.com's On Faith = discussion site.* >> >> >> >> >> >>> It's received mostly good reviews: >> >>> >> >>> http://www.metacritic.com/film/titles/tropicthunder >> >>> >> >>> That's a great website, btw. >> >>> >> >>> -Oliver >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> folk devil wrote: >> >>>> not sure i really want to....too many 'war' films...and a haha to bang >> >>>> bang doesn't really work for me at the mo.. >> >>>> >> >>>> /"/ >> >>>> >> >>>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >>>> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:42:20 -0700 >> >>>> From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com >> >>>> To: gathering at misera.net >> >>>> Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder >> >>>> >> >>>> Anyone seen the movie yet? >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> ... ... ... ... ... ... >> >>>> >> >>>> /*[looking at the current state of things]*/ >> >>>> >> >>>> 'Save me... >> >>>> save me from Tomorrow.. >> >>>> I don't want to /sail //in this Ship Of Fools...!' / >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >>>> Your PC, mobile phone, and online services work together like never >> >>>> before. 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URL: From logvinoff77 at hotmail.com Tue Aug 19 18:01:23 2008 From: logvinoff77 at hotmail.com (mike) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 18:01:23 -0400 Subject: [kj] no way out but forward go In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 99.9% sure it probably is just the cd. I would probably recommend the love like bood cd as it has a really good live recording of tension and kings and queens. _________________________________________________________________ Try Chicktionary, a game that tests how many words you can form from the letters given. Find this and more puzzles at Live Search Games! http://g.msn.ca/ca55/207 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk Tue Aug 19 18:34:32 2008 From: jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk (jo) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 23:34:32 +0100 Subject: [kj] ot eastenders References: <003f01c9023c$88e14dd0$0201a8c0@PSSYCHE23> Message-ID: <062c01c9024b$bffd96c0$0100000a@jo> apparently,bradly was showing my niece around-- jacks flat and the three year old(her son)was in the push chair ,it was only a small role,but could be the start of something big for them there going to appear in east enders again later next month ;D i wish her so much luck as she has not had alot recently :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Didn't see it but fingers crossed that it's the beginning of a successful career. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vassifer at earthlink.net Tue Aug 19 18:43:18 2008 From: vassifer at earthlink.net (Alexander Smith) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 18:43:18 -0400 Subject: [kj] No Way Out But Forward Go! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Danny... Well, not to be pedantic, but it's "Love Like Blood" that came after "NWOBFG". It's the same thing. No difference other than NWO came with smashing cover art by Mike Coles. Alex in NYC On Aug 19, 2008, at 4:45 PM, Stamperdanny at wmconnect.com wrote: > Can anyone tell me anything about the above item that was released > today? Does it come with a bonus dvd? Because if not, then it's > just "Love Like Blood" with a different cover. > > There was a version played up by allmusic guide indicating bonus > dvd. That sat on backorder at my local shop for six months or more. > > Today KOCH records released NWOBFG, along with "Unperverted > Pantomime", My local shop was only able to get me Unpervted > Pantomime, which by the way is great! > > Any help you can give will be appreciated. > > Danny _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karen.weil at sddt.com Tue Aug 19 19:07:15 2008 From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:07:15 -0700 Subject: [kj] Face Your Manga: Ecco il tuo avatar! References: <711142.39569.qm@web52604.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Nice, sade! k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: sade1 To: gathering Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 2:25 PM Subject: [kj] Face Your Manga: Ecco il tuo avatar! And mine.. Here is your Avatar . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karen.weil at sddt.com Tue Aug 19 19:08:19 2008 From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:08:19 -0700 Subject: [kj] Fw: Face Your Manga: Ecco il tuo avatar! References: <802851.21803.qm@web33007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <68D1AB430E1F45A9A96A673323DF2F10@edweil> Yes, but no Scooby Snack, milinda? ; ) "Raggy!" Having fun, K.W. ----- Original Message ----- From: melinda grant To: gathering at misera.net Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 2:27 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Fw: Face Your Manga: Ecco il tuo avatar! alph you look like one of the charactures from scooby doo ;D))))) lol but you look cool as well funnly enough ;) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 13:55:09 -0700 From: sandstorm_mg at yahoo.com To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Fw: Face Your Manga: Ecco il tuo avatar! I'd say this looks like the more "hippy" version of you. ----- Original Message ---- From: Blazingstar418 To: gathering at misera.net Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 9:25:42 AM Subject: [kj] Fw: Face Your Manga: Ecco il tuo avatar! There *is* a passing resemblance... A L P Here is your Avatar Right click on the image and then save as from the menu to download it. 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Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 2:34 PM Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos > I'm so damned fed up with how our presidential election is already The thought of voting between Reps. or Dems. no longer makes me feel proudly involved, but almonst "complicit" in something.. I really wish there were third and fourth parties to choose from... oh well.. ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...!' --- On Tue, 8/19/08, Karen Weil wrote: From: Karen Weil Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 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Either way, I have no interest in seeing this film. k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: folk devil To: gathering at misera.net Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 2:35 PM Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott .the film Tropic Thunder I guess I'm opposite to you, Sade. I won't go to see the film, because of Stiller. The guy's face is enough to put me off. I am curious whether this is something of a 'cultural difference' between North Americans and Euros and Antipodeans?? I had no recollection of him being in Empire of the Sun? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:16:25 -0700 From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott .the film Tropic Thunder blankwerks wroteth: > You are supposed to be laughing at their ridiculous behaviour and > that they ARE bigoted idiots** obsessed only with themselves, So I saw the movie yesterday morning, and it was a fun ride. I haven't been to the movies in almost 2 years, but this one made me wanna go (cuz i'm a fan of Stiller's work). ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...!' --- On Mon, 8/18/08, ade wrote: From: ade Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" Date: Monday, August 18, 2008, 12:59 PM It will probably work better over here as we tend to get that they're playing loathsome characters. A lot of our humour seems cruel, but is actually putting up a mirror to nastiness. Check out Brass Eye or The Day Today if you ever get chance. Better still, just keep on censoring, eh. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of blankwerks Sent: 18 August 2008 10:52 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder Again, isn't the inclusion of a clearly white, and not knowedgable about any black issues, actor, blacked up and frankly ludicrous, just part of the story to indicate clearly how out of touch and precious that this bunch of actors are? The whole thing surely is to demonstrate how ridiculously self obsessed and self appreciating this bunch of idiots are, and how they clearly have delusions that their "art" propels them to a status where they are free to comment and judge, and indeed represent by acting any social racial or minority group. You are supposed to be laughing at their ridiculous behaviour and at the fact that they ARE bigoted idiots obsessed only with themselves, not laughing at the word "retard" or the fact that someone has "blacked up". The whole point is that people like this and attitudes like that are outdated and unwanted, and to ridicule people that hold those thoughts and are so dismissive of anyone who doesn't hold the same status as them. You are missing the whole point of those characters - they and their views are the ones that are being ridiculed, not the subjects of their discussion. Plenty of comedy and satirical films and programmes where main characters are used in this way to portray the simple mindedness of the lead character, wouldn't surprise me if the idea of this was lifted by Stiller from the UK version of The Office and more specifically David Brent's treatment and behaviour towards their employee who is a wheelchair user. The whole comedy in those pieces was directed towards the ludicrous views of Brent, and not towards the disabled person. Incidentally, I'm no Stiller fan - but merely because he isn't funny, not because he is some kind of racist disability hating Hollywood star. 2008/8/18 not to forget they have a white guy in black face,racist film aswell.they consulted the NAACP but none of the agencies serving people who experience disabilities. Go figure,why would they care if they make fun of a defenseless group,utter cowards these hollywood people are.Completly Fked off,Cliff > Isn't the film also about the ludicrous behaviour of a group of self > obsessed actors? surely their dismissal and mockery of any group is down to > the fact that they are in fact a load of complete wankers only able to think > about themselves? > > I don't plan on seing the film, but I know the general premise is that they > are arseholes who get taught a lesson and re-evaluate themselves. Their use > of the "retard" word just goes to show how out of touch they are. > > Oh and protesting about it will certainly do one thing - gve it more > publicity. And not get the studio to take it off release. > > > 2008/8/18 > >> Hiya ok here's a tv news story and daily news article from the protest >> boycotting >> the film Tropic Thunder we did on saturday,Peace,Cliff >> >> http://www.ktuu.com/Global/story.asp?S=8853261 >> >> http://www.adn.com/arts/story/496381.html >> >> >> > http://www.adn.com/arts/story/496381.html >> > >> > >> >> Terrific article by Tim Shriver... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *What 'Tropic Thunder' Thinks Is Funny* >> >> By Timothy Shriver >> >> Monday, August 11, 2008; A15 >> >> >> >> I've been told = to keep my sense of humor about the film "Tropic >> Thunder," >> >> which opens = this week. Despite my requests, I have not been given the >> chance >> >> to see = the movie. But I've seen previews, read about it and read >> excerpts = of >> >> the script. By all accounts, it is an unchecked assault on the = >> humanity of >> >> people with intellectual disabilities -- an affront to = dignity, hope >> and >> >> respect. >> >> >> >> Consider this exchange: >> >> >> >> Ben = Stiller's character: "There were times when I was doing Jack when >> = I >> >> actually felt retarded. Like really retarded." >> >> >> >> Robert Downey = Jr.'s character: "Oh yeah. Damn." >> >> >> >> Stiller: "In a weird way, I had = to sort of just free myself up to >> believe >> >> that it was okay to be stupid = or dumb." >> >> >> >> Downey: "To be a moron." >> >> >> >> Stiller: "Yeah." >> >> >> >> At= another point, about acting like a person with intellectual >> disabilities,<= >> >> BR>they say: >> >> >> >> Stiller: "It's what we do, right?" >> >> >> >> Downey: = "Everybody knows you never do a full retard." >> >> >> >> Stiller: "What do you = mean?" >> >> >> >> Downey: "Check it out. Dustin Hoffman, 'Rain Man,' look = retarded, act >> >> retarded, not retarded. Count toothpicks to your cards. = Autistic, >> sure. Not >> >> retarded. You know Tom Hanks, 'Forrest Gump.' Slow, = yes. Retarded, >> maybe. >> >> Braces on his legs. But he charmed the pants off = Nixon and won a >> ping-pong >> >> competition. That ain't retarded. You went = full retard, man. Never go >> full >> >> retard." >> >> >> >> I worked with the = Farrelly brothers on a film on this topic. I know >> about >> >> edgy comedy. = I'm also told that movies are equal-opportunity >> offenders. >> >> >> >> So = here's an equal-opportunity response to the equal-opportunity >> offenders: >> >> People with intellectual disabilities are routinely abused, neglected,= >> >> insulted, institutionalized and even killed around the world. Their = >> parents >> >> are told to give up, that their children are worthless. Schools = turn >> them >> >> away. Doctors refuse to treat them. Employers won't hire = them. None of >> this >> >> is funny. >> >> >> >> For centuries, they have been the = exception to the most basic >> spiritual >> >> principle: that we are each equal = in spirit, capable of reflecting the >> >> goodness of the divine, carriers = of love. But not people with >> intellectual >> >> disabilities. What's a word = commonly applied to them? Hopeless. >> >> >> >> Let's consider where we are in = 2008. Our politics are about overcoming >> >> division, our social movements = are about ending intolerance, our great >> >> philanthropists promote ending = poverty and disease among the world's >> poor. >> >> Are people with intellectual= disabilities included in the mainstream of >> >> these movements? For the = most part, no. >> >> >> >> Why? Because they're different. Their joy doesn't = fit on magazine >> covers. >> >> Their spirituality doesn't come in self-help = television. Their kind of >> >> wealth doesn't command political attention. = (The best of the spirit >> never >> >> does.) >> >> >> >> Sadly, they're such an easy = target that many people don't realize whom >> they >> >> are making fun of when = they use the word "retard." Most people just >> think >> >> it's funny. "Stupid, = idiot, moron, retard." Ha, ha, ha. >> >> >> >> I know: I could be too sensitive.= But I was taught that mean isn't >> funny. >> >> And I've been to institutions = where people with intellectual >> disabilities >> >> are tied to beds or lie on = concrete floors, forgotten. I've heard >> doctors >> >> say they won't treat = them. I know Gallup found that more than 60 >> percent of >> >> Americans don't = want a person with an intellectual disability at their >> >> child's = school. >> >> >> >> I've talked to people with intellectual disabilities who = cry over >> being >> >> insulted on a bus. I've received too many e-mails from = people who are >> >> devastated not by their child's disability but by the = terror of being >> >> laughed at, excluded and economically devastated. >> >> It wasn't funny when Hollywood humiliated African Americans for a >> >> gener= ation. It's never funny when good and decent human beings are >> >> humiliated= . In fact, it is dangerous and disgusting. >> >> >> >> This film is all that = and more. DreamWorks went so far as to create a >> >> mini-version of Simple = Jack and posted it online. The studio has since >> >> pulled it down, = realizing it had gone too far, even in an age of edgy, >> >> R-rated = comedies. >> >> >> >> So, enough. Stop the hurtful jokes. Talk to your children = about >> language >> >> that is bullying and mean. Ask your friends, your = educators, your >> religious >> >> leaders to help us to end the stubborn myth = that people with >> intellectual >> >> disabilities are hopeless. Ask Hollywood = to get on the right side of >> >> dignity. >> >> >> >> I hope others will join me = in shutting this movie out of our lives and >> our >> >> pocketbooks. We don't = live in times when labeling and humiliating >> others is >> >> funny. And we = should send that message far and wide. >> >> >> >> *The writer is chairman of = Special Olympics and a columnist for >> >> washingtonpost.com's On Faith = discussion site.* >> >> >> >> >> >>> It's received mostly good reviews: >> >>> >> >>> http://www.metacritic.com/film/titles/tropicthunder >> >>> >> >>> That's a great website, btw. >> >>> >> >>> -Oliver >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> folk devil wrote: >> >>>> not sure i really want to....too many 'war' films...and a haha to bang >> >>>> bang doesn't really work for me at the mo.. >> >>>> >> >>>> /"/ >> >>>> >> >>>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >>>> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:42:20 -0700 >> >>>> From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com >> >>>> To: gathering at misera.net >> >>>> Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder >> >>>> >> >>>> Anyone seen the movie yet? >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> ... ... ... ... ... ... >> >>>> >> >>>> /*[looking at the current state of things]*/ >> >>>> >> >>>> 'Save me... >> >>>> save me from Tomorrow.. >> >>>> I don't want to /sail //in this Ship Of Fools...!' / >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >>>> Your PC, mobile phone, and online services work together like never >> >>>> before. 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Friends via Windows Live Messenger. Find Out How ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From saulomar1 at yahoo.com Tue Aug 19 19:23:27 2008 From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com (sade1) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:23:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [kj] OT Boycott .the film Tropic Thunder In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <432907.8021.qm@web52612.mail.re2.yahoo.com> > I cannot stand Ben Stiller any more! ? ?? Instead of 'contemporary' demographics-based comedies, I wish Stiller?went back? to his satirical roots?("The Ben Stiller Show," on?Fox TV, no less) and wrote with Jeanine Garofalo, Andy Dick, and Bob Odenkirk, a good swansong and call it?a day.? ? ? Or, if Christian Bale can come back as a superhero, then Ben Stiller.. naahhhhh.. ? ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current?state of things] 'Save me... ? save me?from Tomorrow.. ?? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...!'?? --- On Tue, 8/19/08, Karen Weil wrote: From: Karen Weil Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott .the film Tropic Thunder To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" Date: Tuesday, August 19, 2008, 4:11 PM #yiv1397621533 .hmmessage P { PADDING-RIGHT:0px;PADDING-LEFT:0px;PADDING-BOTTOM:0px;MARGIN:0px;PADDING-TOP:0px;} #yiv1397621533 { FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma;} OMG, you are so right! I cannot stand Ben Stiller any more! He's as revolting to me as Jim Carrey is! Either way, I have no interest in seeing this film. ? k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: folk devil To: gathering at misera.net Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 2:35 PM Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott .the film Tropic Thunder I guess I'm opposite to you, Sade. I won't go to see the film, because of Stiller. The guy's face?is enough to put?me off. I am curious whether this is something of a 'cultural difference' between North Americans and Euros and Antipodeans??? I had no recollection of him being in Empire of the Sun? Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:16:25 -0700 From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott .the film Tropic Thunder blankwerks wroteth: ? > You are supposed to be laughing at their ridiculous behaviour and > that they ARE bigoted idiots** obsessed only with themselves, ? ? ? So I saw the movie yesterday morning, and it was a fun ride. I haven't been to the movies in almost 2 years, but this one made me wanna go (cuz i'm a fan of Stiller's work). ? ? ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current?state of things] 'Save me... ? save me?from Tomorrow.. ?? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...!'?? --- On Mon, 8/18/08, ade wrote: From: ade Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" Date: Monday, August 18, 2008, 12:59 PM It will probably work better over here as we tend to?get that they're playing loathsome characters. A lot of our humour seems cruel, but is actually putting up a mirror to nastiness. Check out Brass Eye or The Day Today if you ever get chance. ? Better still, just keep on censoring, eh. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of blankwerks Sent: 18 August 2008 10:52 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder Again, isn't the inclusion of a clearly white, and not knowedgable about any black issues, actor, blacked up and frankly ludicrous, just part of the story to indicate clearly how out of touch and precious that this bunch of actors are? The whole thing surely is to demonstrate how ridiculously self obsessed and self appreciating this bunch of idiots are, and how they clearly have delusions that their "art" propels them to a status where they are free to comment and judge, and indeed represent by acting any social racial or minority group. You are supposed to be laughing at their ridiculous behaviour and at the fact that they ARE bigoted idiots obsessed only with themselves, not laughing at the word "retard" or the fact that someone has "blacked up". The whole point is that people like this and attitudes like that are outdated and unwanted, and to ridicule people that hold those thoughts and are so dismissive of anyone who doesn't hold the same status as them. You are missing the whole point of those characters - they and their views are the ones that are being ridiculed, not the subjects of their discussion. Plenty of comedy and satirical films and programmes where main characters are used in this way to portray the simple mindedness of the lead character, wouldn't surprise me if the idea of this was lifted by Stiller from the UK version of The Office and more specifically David Brent's treatment and behaviour towards their employee who is a wheelchair user. The whole comedy in those pieces was directed towards the ludicrous views of Brent, and not towards the disabled person. Incidentally, I'm no Stiller fan - but merely because he isn't funny, not because he is some kind of racist disability hating Hollywood star. 2008/8/18 not to forget they have a white guy in black face,racist film aswell.they consulted the NAACP but none of the agencies serving people who experience disabilities. Go figure,why would they care if they make fun of a defenseless group,utter cowards these hollywood people are.Completly Fked off,Cliff > Isn't the film also about the ludicrous behaviour of a group of self > obsessed actors? surely their dismissal and mockery of any group is down to > the fact that they are in fact a load of complete wankers only able to think > about themselves? > > I don't plan on seing the film, but I know the general premise is that they > are arseholes who get taught a lesson and re-evaluate themselves. Their use > of the "retard" word just goes to show how out of touch they are. > > Oh and protesting about it will certainly do one thing - gve it more > publicity. And not get the studio to take it off release. > > > 2008/8/18 > >> Hiya ok here's a tv news story and daily news article from the protest >> boycotting >> the film Tropic Thunder we did on saturday,Peace,Cliff >> >> http://www.ktuu.com/Global/story.asp?S=8853261 >> >> http://www.adn.com/arts/story/496381.html >> >> >> > http://www.adn.com/arts/story/496381.html >> > >> > >> >> Terrific article by Tim Shriver... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *What 'Tropic Thunder' Thinks Is Funny* >> >> By Timothy Shriver >> >> Monday, August 11, 2008; A15 >> >> >> >> I've been told = to keep my sense of humor about the film "Tropic >> Thunder," >> >> which opens = this week. Despite my requests, I have not been given the >> chance >> >> to see = the movie. But I've seen previews, read about it and read >> excerpts = of >> >> the script. By all accounts, it is an unchecked assault on the = >> humanity of >> >> people with intellectual disabilities -- an affront to = dignity, hope >> and >> >> respect. >> >> >> >> Consider this exchange: >> >> >> >> Ben = Stiller's character: "There were times when I was doing Jack when >> = I >> >> actually felt retarded. Like really retarded." >> >> >> >> Robert Downey = Jr.'s character: "Oh yeah. Damn." >> >> >> >> Stiller: "In a weird way, I had = to sort of just free myself up to >> believe >> >> that it was okay to be stupid = or dumb." >> >> >> >> Downey: "To be a moron." >> >> >> >> Stiller: "Yeah." >> >> >> >> At= another point, about acting like a person with intellectual >> disabilities,<= >> >> BR>they say: >> >> >> >> Stiller: "It's what we do, right?" >> >> >> >> Downey: = "Everybody knows you never do a full retard." >> >> >> >> Stiller: "What do you = mean?" >> >> >> >> Downey: "Check it out. Dustin Hoffman, 'Rain Man,' look = retarded, act >> >> retarded, not retarded. Count toothpicks to your cards. = Autistic, >> sure. Not >> >> retarded. You know Tom Hanks, 'Forrest Gump.' Slow, = yes. Retarded, >> maybe. >> >> Braces on his legs. But he charmed the pants off = Nixon and won a >> ping-pong >> >> competition. That ain't retarded. You went = full retard, man. Never go >> full >> >> retard." >> >> >> >> I worked with the = Farrelly brothers on a film on this topic. I know >> about >> >> edgy comedy. = I'm also told that movies are equal-opportunity >> offenders. >> >> >> >> So = here's an equal-opportunity response to the equal-opportunity >> offenders: >> >> People with intellectual disabilities are routinely abused, neglected,= >> >> insulted, institutionalized and even killed around the world. Their = >> parents >> >> are told to give up, that their children are worthless. Schools = turn >> them >> >> away. Doctors refuse to treat them. Employers won't hire = them. None of >> this >> >> is funny. >> >> >> >> For centuries, they have been the = exception to the most basic >> spiritual >> >> principle: that we are each equal = in spirit, capable of reflecting the >> >> goodness of the divine, carriers = of love. But not people with >> intellectual >> >> disabilities. What's a word = commonly applied to them? Hopeless. >> >> >> >> Let's consider where we are in = 2008. Our politics are about overcoming >> >> division, our social movements = are about ending intolerance, our great >> >> philanthropists promote ending = poverty and disease among the world's >> poor. >> >> Are people with intellectual= disabilities included in the mainstream of >> >> these movements? For the = most part, no. >> >> >> >> Why? Because they're different. Their joy doesn't = fit on magazine >> covers. >> >> Their spirituality doesn't come in self-help = television. Their kind of >> >> wealth doesn't command political attention. = (The best of the spirit >> never >> >> does.) >> >> >> >> Sadly, they're such an easy = target that many people don't realize whom >> they >> >> are making fun of when = they use the word "retard." Most people just >> think >> >> it's funny. "Stupid, = idiot, moron, retard." Ha, ha, ha. >> >> >> >> I know: I could be too sensitive.= But I was taught that mean isn't >> funny. >> >> And I've been to institutions = where people with intellectual >> disabilities >> >> are tied to beds or lie on = concrete floors, forgotten. I've heard >> doctors >> >> say they won't treat = them. I know Gallup found that more than 60 >> percent of >> >> Americans don't = want a person with an intellectual disability at their >> >> child's = school. >> >> >> >> I've talked to people with intellectual disabilities who = cry over >> being >> >> insulted on a bus. I've received too many e-mails from = people who are >> >> devastated not by their child's disability but by the = terror of being >> >> laughed at, excluded and economically devastated. >> >> It wasn't funny when Hollywood humiliated African Americans for a >> >> gener= ation. It's never funny when good and decent human beings are >> >> humiliated= . In fact, it is dangerous and disgusting. >> >> >> >> This film is all that = and more. DreamWorks went so far as to create a >> >> mini-version of Simple = Jack and posted it online. The studio has since >> >> pulled it down, = realizing it had gone too far, even in an age of edgy, >> >> R-rated = comedies. >> >> >> >> So, enough. Stop the hurtful jokes. Talk to your children = about >> language >> >> that is bullying and mean. Ask your friends, your = educators, your >> religious >> >> leaders to help us to end the stubborn myth = that people with >> intellectual >> >> disabilities are hopeless. Ask Hollywood = to get on the right side of >> >> dignity. >> >> >> >> I hope others will join me = in shutting this movie out of our lives and >> our >> >> pocketbooks. We don't = live in times when labeling and humiliating >> others is >> >> funny. And we = should send that message far and wide. >> >> >> >> *The writer is chairman of = Special Olympics and a columnist for >> >> washingtonpost.com's On Faith = discussion site.* >> >> >> >> >> >>> It's received mostly good reviews: >> >>> >> >>> http://www.metacritic.com/film/titles/tropicthunder >> >>> >> >>> That's a great website, btw. >> >>> >> >>> -Oliver >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> folk devil wrote: >> >>>> not sure i really want to....too many 'war' films...and a haha to bang >> >>>> bang doesn't really work for me at the mo.. >> >>>> >> >>>> /"/ >> >>>> >> >>>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >>>> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:42:20 -0700 >> >>>> From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com >> >>>> To: gathering at misera.net >> >>>> Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder >> >>>> >> >>>> Anyone seen the movie yet? >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> ... ... ... ... ... ... >> >>>> >> >>>> /*[looking at the current state of things]*/ >> >>>> >> >>>> 'Save me... >> >>>> ? save me from Tomorrow.. >> >>>> ? ?I don't want to /sail //in this Ship Of Fools...!' ? / >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >>>> Your PC, mobile phone, and online services work together like never >> >>>> before. 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" From: karen.weil at sddt.comTo: saulomar1 at yahoo.com; gathering at misera.netDate: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:09:48 -0700Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos Amen on that one, fellow citizen. Unfortunately, Americans will eventually wake up to that (I hope they do, before it's too late ...) k.w. _________________________________________________________________ See what people are saying about Windows Live. Check out featured posts. http://www.windowslive.com/connect?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_connect2_082008 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net Tue Aug 19 20:16:19 2008 From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net (B. Oliver Sheppard) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 19:16:19 -0500 Subject: [kj] OT Boycott .the film Tropic Thunder In-Reply-To: <432907.8021.qm@web52612.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <432907.8021.qm@web52612.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <48AB6253.5060105@sbcglobal.net> What is Garofalo up to these days? I always liked her. -Oliver sade1 wrote: > > I cannot stand Ben Stiller any more! > > Instead of 'contemporary' demographics-based comedies, I wish > Stiller went > back to his satirical roots ("The Ben Stiller Show > ," > on Fox TV, no less) and wrote > with Jeanine Garofalo, Andy Dick, and Bob Odenkirk, a good swansong > and call > it a day. > > Or, if Christian Bale can come back as a superhero, then Ben > Stiller/.. naahhhhh../ > From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Tue Aug 19 21:22:16 2008 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 13:22:16 +1200 (NZST) Subject: [kj] OT Boycott .the film Tropic Thunder In-Reply-To: References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC072149@mr-pants.the-lab.local> <500223.58217.qm@web52611.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1154.124.170.218.248.1219195336.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz> If you don't like Stiller then you'll probably hate this, he was on a few episodes of Curb Your Enthusiasm: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1ps4EZz4B0 I find it a bit daft but funny :D > > I guess I'm opposite to you, Sade. I won't go to see the film, because of > Stiller. The guy's face is enough to put me off. > I am curious whether this is something of a 'cultural difference' between > North Americans and Euros and Antipodeans?? > I had no recollection of him being in Empire of the Sun? > > > > Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:16:25 -0700From: saulomar1 at yahoo.comTo: > gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott .the film Tropic Thunder > > > > > blankwerks wroteth: > >> You are supposed to be laughing at their ridiculous behaviour and >> that they ARE bigoted idiots** obsessed only with themselves, > > > So I saw the movie yesterday morning, and it was a fun ride. I haven't > been to > the movies in almost 2 years, but this one made me wanna go (cuz i'm a fan > of Stiller's work). > > > > ... ... ... ... ... ... > [looking at the current state of things] > 'Save me... > save me from Tomorrow.. > I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...!' --- On Mon, 8/18/08, > ade wrote: > From: ade Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film > Tropic ThunderTo: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" > Date: Monday, August 18, 2008, 12:59 PM > > It will probably work better over here as we tend to get that they're > playing loathsome characters. A lot of our humour seems cruel, but is > actually putting up a mirror to nastiness. Check out Brass Eye or The Day > Today if you ever get chance. > > Better still, just keep on censoring, eh. > > -----Original Message-----From: gathering-bounces at misera.net > [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of blankwerksSent: 18 > August 2008 10:52To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the > band!)Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder > Again, isn't the inclusion of a clearly white, and not knowedgable about > any black issues, actor, blacked up and frankly ludicrous, just part of > the story to indicate clearly how out of touch and precious that this > bunch of actors are?The whole thing surely is to demonstrate how > ridiculously self obsessed and self appreciating this bunch of idiots are, > and how they clearly have delusions that their "art" propels them to a > status where they are free to comment and judge, and indeed represent by > acting any social racial or minority group.You are supposed to be laughing > at their ridiculous behaviour and at the fact that they ARE bigoted idiots > obsessed only with themselves, not laughing at the word "retard" or the > fact that someone has "blacked up". The whole point is that people like > this and attitudes like that are outdated and unwanted, and to ridicule > people that hold those thoughts and are so dismissive of anyone who > doesn't hold the same status as them.You are missing the whole point of > those characters - they and their views are the ones that are being > ridiculed, not the subjects of their discussion. Plenty of comedy and > satirical films and programmes where main characters are used in this way > to portray the simple mindedness of the lead character, wouldn't surprise > me if the idea of this was lifted by Stiller from the UK version of The > Office and more specifically David Brent's treatment and behaviour towards > their employee who is a wheelchair user. The whole comedy in those pieces > was directed towards the ludicrous views of Brent, and not towards the > disabled person.Incidentally, I'm no Stiller fan - but merely because he > isn't funny, not because he is some kind of racist disability hating > Hollywood star. > 2008/8/18 > not to forget they have a white guy in black face,racist film aswell.they > consultedthe NAACP but none of the agencies serving people who experience > disabilities.Go figure,why would they care if they make fun of a > defenseless group,utter cowardsthese hollywood people are.Completly Fked > off,Cliff > > >> Isn't the film also about the ludicrous behaviour of a group of self> >> obsessed actors? surely their dismissal and mockery of any group is down >> to> the fact that they are in fact a load of complete wankers only able >> to think> about themselves?>> I don't plan on seing the film, but I know >> the general premise is that they> are arseholes who get taught a lesson >> and re-evaluate themselves. Their use> of the "retard" word just goes to >> show how out of touch they are.>> Oh and protesting about it will >> certainly do one thing - gve it more> publicity. And not get the studio >> to take it off release.>>> 2008/8/18 >>> Hiya ok >> here's a tv news story and daily news article from the protest>> >> boycotting>> the film Tropic Thunder we did on saturday,Peace,Cliff>>>> >> http://www.ktuu.com/Global/story.asp?S=8853261>>>> >> http://www.adn.com/arts/story/496381.html>>>>>> > >> http://www.adn.com/arts/story/496381.html>> >>> >>> >> Terrific article >> by Tim Shriver...>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> *What 'Tropic Thunder' Thinks Is >> Funny*>> >> By Timothy Shriver>> >> Monday, August 11, 2008; A15>> >>>> >> >> I've been told = to keep my sense of humor about the film "Tropic>> >> Thunder,">> >> which opens = this week. Despite my requests, I have not >> been given the>> chance>> >> to see = the movie. But I've seen previews, >> read about it and read>> excerpts = of>> >> the script. By all accounts, >> it is an unchecked assault on the =>> humanity of>> >> people with >> intellectual disabilities -- an affront to = dignity, hope>> and>> >> >> respect.>> >>>> >> Consider this exchange:>> >>>> >> Ben = Stiller's >> character: "There were times when I was doing Jack when>> = I>> >> >> actually felt retarded. Like really retarded.">> >>>> >> Robert Downey = >> Jr.'s character: "Oh yeah. Damn.">> >>>> >> Stiller: "In a weird way, I >> had = to sort of just free myself up to>> believe>> >> that it was okay >> to be stupid = or dumb.">> >>>> >> Downey: "To be a moron.">> >>>> >> >> Stiller: "Yeah.">> >>>> >> At= another point, about acting like a person >> with intellectual>> disabilities,<=>> >> BR>they say:>> >>>> >> Stiller: >> "It's what we do, right?">> >>>> >> Downey: = "Everybody knows you never >> do a full retard.">> >>>> >> Stiller: "What do you = mean?">> >>>> >> >> Downey: "Check it out. Dustin Hoffman, 'Rain Man,' look = retarded, >> act>> >> retarded, not retarded. Count toothpicks to your cards. = >> Autistic,>> sure. Not>> >> retarded. You know Tom Hanks, 'Forrest Gump.' >> Slow, = yes. Retarded,>> maybe.>> >> Braces on his legs. But he charmed >> the pants off = Nixon and won a>> ping-pong>> >> competition. That ain't >> retarded. You went = full retard, man. Never go>> full>> >> retard.">> >> >>>> >> I worked with the = Farrelly brothers on a film on this topic. I >> know>> about>> >> edgy comedy. = I'm also told that movies are >> equal-opportunity>> offenders.>> >>>> >> So = here's an >> equal-opportunity response to the equal-opportunity>> offenders:>> >> >> People with intellectual disabilities are routinely abused, >> neglected,=>> >> insulted, institutionalized and even killed around the >> world. Their =>> parents>> >> are told to give up, that their children >> are worthless. Schools = turn>> them>> >> away. Doctors refuse to treat >> them. Employers won't hire = them. None of>> this>> >> is funny.>> >>>> >> >> For centuries, they have been the = exception to the most basic>> >> spiritual>> >> principle: that we are each equal = in spirit, capable of >> reflecting the>> >> goodness of the divine, carriers = of love. But not >> people with>> intellectual>> >> disabilities. What's a word = commonly >> applied to them? Hopeless.>> >>>> >> Let's consider where we are in = >> 2008. Our politics are about overcoming>> >> division, our social >> movements = are about ending intolerance, our great>> >> philanthropists >> promote ending = poverty and disease among the world's>> poor.>> >> Are >> people with intellectual= disabilities included in the mainstream of>> >> >> these movements? For the = most part, no.>> >>>> >> Why? Because >> they're different. Their joy doesn't = fit on magazine>> covers.>> >> >> Their spirituality doesn't come in self-help = television. Their kind >> of>> >> wealth doesn't command political attention. = (The best of the >> spirit>> never>> >> does.)>> >>>> >> Sadly, they're such an easy = >> target that many people don't realize whom>> they>> >> are making fun of >> when = they use the word "retard." Most people just>> think>> >> it's >> funny. "Stupid, = idiot, moron, retard." Ha, ha, ha.>> >>>> >> I know: I >> could be too sensitive.= But I was taught that mean isn't>> funny.>> >> >> And I've been to institutions = where people with intellectual>> >> disabilities>> >> are tied to beds or lie on = concrete floors, >> forgotten. I've heard>> doctors>> >> say they won't treat = them. I know >> Gallup found that more than 60>> percent of>> >> Americans don't = want >> a person with an intellectual disability at their>> >> child's = >> school.>> >>>> >> I've talked to people with intellectual disabilities >> who = cry over>> being>> >> insulted on a bus. I've received too many >> e-mails from = people who are>> >> devastated not by their child's >> disability but by the = terror of being>> >> laughed at, excluded and >> economically devastated.>> >> It wasn't funny when Hollywood humiliated >> African Americans for a>> >> gener= ation. It's never funny when good >> and decent human beings are>> >> humiliated= . In fact, it is dangerous >> and disgusting.>> >>>> >> This film is all that = and more. DreamWorks >> went so far as to create a>> >> mini-version of Simple = Jack and posted >> it online. The studio has since>> >> pulled it down, = realizing it had >> gone too far, even in an age of edgy,>> >> R-rated = comedies.>> >>>> >> >> So, enough. Stop the hurtful jokes. Talk to your children = about>> >> language>> >> that is bullying and mean. Ask your friends, your = >> educators, your>> religious>> >> leaders to help us to end the stubborn >> myth = that people with>> intellectual>> >> disabilities are hopeless. >> Ask Hollywood = to get on the right side of>> >> dignity.>> >>>> >> I >> hope others will join me = in shutting this movie out of our lives and>> >> our>> >> pocketbooks. We don't = live in times when labeling and >> humiliating>> others is>> >> funny. And we = should send that message >> far and wide.>> >>>> >> *The writer is chairman of = Special Olympics >> and a columnist for>> >> washingtonpost.com's On Faith = discussion >> site.*>> >>>> >>>> >>> It's received mostly good reviews:>> >>>>> >>> >> http://www.metacritic.com/film/titles/tropicthunder>> >>>>> >>> That's a >> great website, btw.>> >>>>> >>> -Oliver>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> folk devil >> wrote:>> >>>> not sure i really want to....too many 'war' films...and a >> haha to bang>> >>>> bang doesn't really work for me at the mo..>> >>>>>> >> >>>> /"/>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------>> >> >>>> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:42:20 -0700>> >>>> From: >> saulomar1 at yahoo.com>> >>>> To: gathering at misera.net>> >>>> Subject: Re: >> [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder>> >>>>>> >>>> Anyone seen the >> movie yet?>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> ... ... ... ... ... ...>> >>>>>> >> >>>> /*[looking at the current state of things]*/>> >>>>>> >>>> 'Save >> me...>> >>>> save me from Tomorrow..>> >>>> I don't want to /sail >> //in this Ship Of Fools...!' />> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------>> >> >>>> Your PC, mobile phone, and online services work together like >> never>> >>>> before. See how Windows(R) fits your life > > >>> >>>> >> >>>>>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------>> >>> >>>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________>> >>>> >>> Gathering mailing list>> >>>> Gathering at misera.net>> >>>> >>> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________>> >>> >>> Gathering mailing list>> >>> Gathering at misera.net>> >>> >>> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>>> >> _______________________________________________>> >> >>> Gathering mailing list>> >> Gathering at misera.net>> >> >>> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> > _______________________________________________>> > Gathering >>> mailing list>> > Gathering at misera.net>> > >>> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering>> >>>>>>> >>> _______________________________________________>> Gathering >>> mailing list>> Gathering at misera.net>> >>> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering>>> >>> _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing >>> list> Gathering at misera.net> >>> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering>_______________________________________________Gathering >>> mailing >>> listGathering at misera.nethttp://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering_______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > _________________________________________________________________ > Talk to your Yahoo! Friends via Windows Live Messenger. Find out how. > http://www.windowslive.com/explore/messenger?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_messenger_yahoo_082008_______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Tue Aug 19 21:28:44 2008 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 13:28:44 +1200 (NZST) Subject: [kj] OT Boycott .the film Tropic Thunder In-Reply-To: <48AB3F2C.3080406@sbcglobal.net> References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC072149@mr-pants.the-lab.local> <500223.58217.qm@web52611.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <48AB3F2C.3080406@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <1201.124.170.218.248.1219195724.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz> I recommend 'Bottle Rocket,' if you haven't already seen it, Owen and Luke Wilson back in the late 90s or early 2000s, classic. Meet the Parents is so rewatchable, I've seen it about half a dozen times at least...Stiller the dufus cracks me up generally. The other jock character he plays is a bit lame. What was that movie where he was the sadicstic school camp fitness teacher? Lame. > Stiller had a very bit part at a young age in Empire of the Sun. > > I am a fan of about 50% of Stiller's works, personally. Hated Night at > the Museum, liked Something About Mary and Meet the Parents (but not the > sequel), which I think are his two best. I do like Zoolander. As one > critic noted, he either plays a supremely UN-confident man, crouching > through life awaiting the next insult or put-down (Meet the Parents), or > he plays an over-the-top arrogantly confident, yet absurd guy -- as in > his role in Dodgeball, which I kind of liked. It's the latter he also > apparently plays in Tropic Thunder. > > I am starved for comedies that actually make me laugh, so I might see > Tropic Thunder. Maybe I'll try to find a way to see it without paying, > in case the dsiability put-dpwns really are gratuitous. But my > understanding is that Still and the other characetrs are unlikable jerks > anyway, very self-obsessed, so they're using the word retard is "in > character" for them, and adds to their unlikable-ness. > > -Oliver > > folk devil wrote: >> I guess I'm opposite to you, Sade. I won't go to see the film, because >> of Stiller. The guy's face is enough to put me off. >> I am curious whether this is something of a 'cultural difference' >> between North Americans and Euros and Antipodeans?? >> I had no recollection of him being in Empire of the Sun? >> > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Tue Aug 19 21:31:43 2008 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 13:31:43 +1200 (NZST) Subject: [kj] Fw: Face Your Manga: Ecco il tuo avatar! In-Reply-To: <68D1AB430E1F45A9A96A673323DF2F10@edweil> References: <802851.21803.qm@web33007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <68D1AB430E1F45A9A96A673323DF2F10@edweil> Message-ID: <1206.124.170.218.248.1219195903.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz> It's more like "HRRAGGY?" IMO ;p > Yes, but no Scooby Snack, milinda? ; ) > > "Raggy!" > > > Having fun, > > K.W. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: melinda grant > To: gathering at misera.net > Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 2:27 PM > Subject: Re: [kj] Fw: Face Your Manga: Ecco il tuo avatar! > > > alph you look like one of the charactures from scooby doo ;D))))) lol > but you look cool as well funnly enough ;) > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 13:55:09 -0700 > From: sandstorm_mg at yahoo.com > To: gathering at misera.net > Subject: Re: [kj] Fw: Face Your Manga: Ecco il tuo avatar! > > > > I'd say this looks like the more "hippy" version of you. > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Blazingstar418 > To: gathering at misera.net > Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 9:25:42 AM > Subject: [kj] Fw: Face Your Manga: Ecco il tuo avatar! > > There *is* a passing resemblance... > > A L P > > > > > > Here is your Avatar > Right click on the image and then save as from the menu to > download it. If the image should not be correctly > visualized, you can download it as an attachment from this > e-mail. > > Face Your Manga Team welcomes you to our world. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Get Hotmail on your mobile from Vodafone Try it Now! > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net Tue Aug 19 21:43:35 2008 From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net (B. Oliver Sheppard) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:43:35 -0500 Subject: [kj] OT Boycott .the film Tropic Thunder In-Reply-To: <1201.124.170.218.248.1219195724.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz> References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC072149@mr-pants.the-lab.local> <500223.58217.qm@web52611.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <48AB3F2C.3080406@sbcglobal.net> <1201.124.170.218.248.1219195724.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz> Message-ID: <48AB76C7.5080907@sbcglobal.net> Hmm -- I don't remember or haven't seen the movie where Stiller is a fitness camp instructor. (The odd thing is in real life Ben Stiller is actually kind of buff.) You're the 3rd or 4th person who's told me to see Bottle Rocket. II really need to rent it, have heard good stuff about it. -Oliver Brendan wrote: > What was that movie where he was the > sadicstic school camp fitness teacher? Lame. > > > > From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Tue Aug 19 21:45:36 2008 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 13:45:36 +1200 (NZST) Subject: [kj] OT Boycott .the film Tropic Thunder In-Reply-To: <48AB76C7.5080907@sbcglobal.net> References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC072149@mr-pants.the-lab.local> <500223.58217.qm@web52611.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <48AB3F2C.3080406@sbcglobal.net> <1201.124.170.218.248.1219195724.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz> <48AB76C7.5080907@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <1352.124.170.218.248.1219196736.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz> Check out the character Kumar who comes in about half way through, the useless safe cracker. Then as you watch the rest of the Wilson brothers' movies you'll notice he's in most of them, generally this hapless random fucker, quite funny. Bottle Rocket is a must-see. > Hmm -- I don't remember or haven't seen the movie where Stiller is a > fitness camp instructor. (The odd thing is in real life Ben Stiller is > actually kind of buff.) You're the 3rd or 4th person who's told me to > see Bottle Rocket. II really need to rent it, have heard good stuff > about it. > > -Oliver > > Brendan wrote: >> What was that movie where he was the >> sadicstic school camp fitness teacher? Lame. >> >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From angrytomhanks at yahoo.com Tue Aug 19 22:27:54 2008 From: angrytomhanks at yahoo.com (Leigh Newton) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 19:27:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [kj] Face Your Manga - here i am Message-ID: <410136.10338.qm@web65703.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> There's definitely something to this. http://s2.photobucket.com/albums/y21/Le1gh/?action=view¤t=angrytomhanksyahoocom_874dab86.jpg http://www.nightruiner.com http://www.myspace.com/thesunthroughatelescope http://www.myspace.com/lauderdale -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com Wed Aug 20 01:05:08 2008 From: killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com (The Exorcist) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 01:05:08 -0400 Subject: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos In-Reply-To: <8E417D53948245B8AC4835E6F37C5DB1@edweil> References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC07215A@mr-pants.the-lab.local> <8E417D53948245B8AC4835E6F37C5DB1@edweil> Message-ID: <0K5V004B2VHKX6Z0@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> Ade sharp? He can't even cut a strawberry! At 04:52 PM 8/19/2008, Karen Weil wrote: >Ade: >With all due respect, no, actually I'm not. >Look, let's make a deal here: Not all conservatives (Republicans, >right-wingers, etc.) are hypocritical, corrupt warmongers who >worship George Bush, and not all leftists (liberals, Dems or >whatever you want to call them) are wussy, abortion-loving anti-Christians. >(I use these cliches to prove a point, and I know a sharp person >like yourself understands the context.) >And I have no use for scum like Gary Glitter. > >Keep on trucking, > >K.W. > >P.S. If I seem cranky, there's a reson: I'm so damned fed up with >how our presidential election is already turning into another nasty, >partisan-hyped and issue-free event. (No, I'm not surprised, mind >you -- just saddened, because the U.S. and its good people suffer for it.) >----- Original Message ----- >From: ade >To: A list about all things Killing >Joke (the band!) >Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 1:46 PM >Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos > >Respect ;) You are one of few... >-----Original Message----- >From: >gathering-bounces at misera.net >[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Karen Weil >Sent: 19 August 2008 21:37 >To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) >Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos > >I'm a progressive, and I say, "string that bastard up!" >That strong enough for you, ade? > >Cheers, > >K.W. >San Diego >----- Original Message ----- >From: ade >To: A list about all things Killing >Joke (the band!) >Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 1:30 PM >Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos > >Of course, we couldn't string him up - that would hurt our >(unrealistic) lefty sensibilities... >-----Original Message----- >From: >gathering-bounces at misera.net >[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of folk devil >Sent: 19 August 2008 17:08 >To: gathering at misera.net >Subject: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos > >"THU DUC, Vietnam (Reuters) - Fallen British rock star Gary Glitter >has been freed from a Vietnamese prison after completing a >three-years sentence for molesting two young girls, his lawyer said >on Tuesday.... >State media reported last week Glitter had been doing chores at a >prison clinic in Binh Thuan province, 190 km (118 miles) north of Ho >Chi Minh City and adjacent to the coastal province of Ba Ria-Vung >Tau where he molested two 11-year-old girls while living in a villa." >http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSHAN24257120080819 > > > > > >---------- >Get ideas on sharing photos from people like you. 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Everyone is declared a loser, which in our book means an ethical team player. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From blankwerks at gmail.com Wed Aug 20 03:37:29 2008 From: blankwerks at gmail.com (blankwerks) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 08:37:29 +0100 Subject: [kj] OT Boycott .the film Tropic Thunder In-Reply-To: <500223.58217.qm@web52611.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC072149@mr-pants.the-lab.local> <500223.58217.qm@web52611.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Yay for satire. 2008/8/19 sade1 > *blankwerks wroteth*: > > > You are supposed to be laughing at their ridiculous behaviour and > > that they ARE bigoted idiots** obsessed only with themselves, > > > So I saw the movie yesterday morning, and it was a fun ride. I haven't > been to > the movies in almost 2 years, but this one made me wanna go (cuz i'm a fan > of Stiller's work). > > Someone else mentioned "The Man Who Knew Too Little" and Tropic > Thunder's > plot was similar, except it's in a war-movie setting. It spoofs film-making > with plenty > of movie and film-industry references. > > By the time you see RoDo,Jr. and BeSti. profusely saying the words > "retarded," > "retard" and even "..going full retard,"etc.etc.you already know how far > beyond-the-pale > these idiots** really are; the dialogue is only to further underline and > highlight in neon- > yellow how unbelievably, unforgivingly moronic those self-serving, > self-indulgent, > bigoted and obliviously self-absorbed these Hollywood "Industry" types > really are. > > It's called Satire. Protected under Federal law, even. > > ** see, *"By the way,** are there any..."* > > [transcript starts paragraph 9] > > from back when the bigoted threat > to people's lives was still palpable > here in u.s. > Anyone who finds this movie as an attack on the disabled either hasn't > seen it, > or totally does not get the joke/satire and therefore cannot judge. THIS IS > NOT > AT ALL like THE OBAMA COVER ON *THE NEW YORKER* Magazine. This film > provides you full context for the joke, and does so on a silver plate. > > Also, i haven't seen any opponents to the film comment on how Ben Stiller > ends up paying his Karmic debt for having denigrated the mentally > challenged, how he ends up doing WHITEface theater playing a literally > pasty-faced, dried up straw-haired character in a prison camp. > > Anyone finding this movie offensive to mentally challenged people > will prolly find > *Schindler's List* anti-semitic > because it shows Amon Goeth gleefully whacking jews > left and right..; will prolly find *The Godfather* racist towards blacks > because the Mafia > dons talk about, *"...keep the [heroin] traffic in the dark people, the > colored. They're animals anyway so let them lose their souls.**..." * > > > * * Full Disclosure... i'd be for the protests, but if they had *seen > the film first!* > Absolutely no harm in that. > > > ... ... ... ... ... ... > > *[looking at the current state of things]* > > 'Save me... > save me from Tomorrow.. > I don't want to *sail **in this Ship Of Fools...!' * > > > --- On *Mon, 8/18/08, ade * wrote: > > From: ade > Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder > To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" < > gathering at misera.net> > Date: Monday, August 18, 2008, 12:59 PM > > It will probably work better over here as we tend to get that they're > playing loathsome characters. A lot of our humour seems cruel, but is > actually putting up a mirror to nastiness. Check out Brass Eye or The Day > Today if you ever get chance. > > Better still, just keep on censoring, eh. > > -----Original Message----- > *From:* gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] > *On Behalf Of *blankwerks > *Sent:* 18 August 2008 10:52 > *To:* A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) > *Subject:* Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder > > Again, isn't the inclusion of a clearly white, and not knowedgable about > any black issues, actor, blacked up and frankly ludicrous, just part of the > story to indicate clearly how out of touch and precious that this bunch of > actors are? > > The whole thing surely is to demonstrate how ridiculously self obsessed and > self appreciating this bunch of idiots are, and how they clearly have > delusions that their "art" propels them to a status where they are free to > comment and judge, and indeed represent by acting any social racial or > minority group. > > You are supposed to be laughing at their ridiculous behaviour and at the > fact that they ARE bigoted idiots obsessed only with themselves, not > laughing at the word "retard" or the fact that someone has "blacked up". The > whole point is that people like this and attitudes like that are outdated > and unwanted, and to ridicule people that hold those thoughts and are so > dismissive of anyone who doesn't hold the same status as them. > > You are missing the whole point of those characters - they and their views > are the ones that are being ridiculed, not the subjects of their discussion. > Plenty of comedy and satirical films and programmes where main characters > are used in this way to portray the simple mindedness of the lead character, > wouldn't surprise me if the idea of this was lifted by Stiller from the UK > version of The Office and more specifically David Brent's treatment and > behaviour towards their employee who is a wheelchair user. The whole comedy > in those pieces was directed towards the ludicrous views of Brent, and not > towards the disabled person. > > Incidentally, I'm no Stiller fan - but merely because he isn't funny, not > because he is some kind of racist disability hating Hollywood star. > > 2008/8/18 > >> not to forget they have a white guy in black face,racist film aswell.they >> consulted >> the NAACP but none of the agencies serving people who experience >> disabilities. >> Go figure,why would they care if they make fun of a defenseless >> group,utter cowards >> these hollywood people are.Completly Fked off,Cliff >> >> >> > Isn't the film also about the ludicrous behaviour of a group of self >> > obsessed actors? surely their dismissal and mockery of any group is down >> to >> > the fact that they are in fact a load of complete wankers only able to >> think >> > about themselves? >> > >> > I don't plan on seing the film, but I know the general premise is that >> they >> > are arseholes who get taught a lesson and re-evaluate themselves. Their >> use >> > of the "retard" word just goes to show how out of touch they are. >> > >> > Oh and protesting about it will certainly do one thing - gve it more >> > publicity. And not get the studio to take it off release. >> > >> > >> > 2008/8/18 >> > >> >> Hiya ok here's a tv news story and daily news article from the protest >> >> boycotting >> >> the film Tropic Thunder we did on saturday,Peace,Cliff >> >> >> >> http://www.ktuu.com/Global/story.asp?S=8853261 >> >> >> >> http://www.adn.com/arts/story/496381.html >> >> >> >> >> >> > http://www.adn.com/arts/story/496381.html >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> Terrific article by Tim Shriver... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *What 'Tropic Thunder' Thinks Is Funny* >> >> >> By Timothy Shriver >> >> >> Monday, August 11, 2008; A15 >> >> >> >> >> >> I've been told = to keep my sense of humor about the film "Tropic >> >> Thunder," >> >> >> which opens = this week. Despite my requests, I have not been given >> the >> >> chance >> >> >> to see = the movie. But I've seen previews, read about it and read >> >> excerpts = of >> >> >> the script. By all accounts, it is an unchecked assault on the = >> >> humanity of >> >> >> people with intellectual disabilities -- an affront to = dignity, >> hope >> >> and >> >> >> respect. >> >> >> >> >> >> Consider this exchange: >> >> >> >> >> >> Ben = Stiller's character: "There were times when I was doing Jack >> when >> >> = I >> >> >> actually felt retarded. Like really retarded." >> >> >> >> >> >> Robert Downey = Jr.'s character: "Oh yeah. Damn." >> >> >> >> >> >> Stiller: "In a weird way, I had = to sort of just free myself up to >> >> believe >> >> >> that it was okay to be stupid = or dumb." >> >> >> >> >> >> Downey: "To be a moron." >> >> >> >> >> >> Stiller: "Yeah." >> >> >> >> >> >> At= another point, about acting like a person with intellectual >> >> disabilities,<= >> >> >> BR>they say: >> >> >> >> >> >> Stiller: "It's what we do, right?" >> >> >> >> >> >> Downey: = "Everybody knows you never do a full retard." >> >> >> >> >> >> Stiller: "What do you = mean?" >> >> >> >> >> >> Downey: "Check it out. Dustin Hoffman, 'Rain Man,' look = retarded, >> act >> >> >> retarded, not retarded. Count toothpicks to your cards. = Autistic, >> >> sure. Not >> >> >> retarded. You know Tom Hanks, 'Forrest Gump.' Slow, = yes. Retarded, >> >> maybe. >> >> >> Braces on his legs. But he charmed the pants off = Nixon and won a >> >> ping-pong >> >> >> competition. That ain't retarded. You went = full retard, man. Never >> go >> >> full >> >> >> retard." >> >> >> >> >> >> I worked with the = Farrelly brothers on a film on this topic. I >> know >> >> about >> >> >> edgy comedy. = I'm also told that movies are equal-opportunity >> >> offenders. >> >> >> >> >> >> So = here's an equal-opportunity response to the equal-opportunity >> >> offenders: >> >> >> People with intellectual disabilities are routinely abused, >> neglected,= >> >> >> insulted, institutionalized and even killed around the world. Their >> = >> >> parents >> >> >> are told to give up, that their children are worthless. Schools = >> turn >> >> them >> >> >> away. Doctors refuse to treat them. Employers won't hire = them. >> None of >> >> this >> >> >> is funny. >> >> >> >> >> >> For centuries, they have been the = exception to the most basic >> >> spiritual >> >> >> principle: that we are each equal = in spirit, capable of reflecting >> the >> >> >> goodness of the divine, carriers = of love. But not people with >> >> intellectual >> >> >> disabilities. What's a word = commonly applied to them? Hopeless. >> >> >> >> >> >> Let's consider where we are in = 2008. Our politics are about >> overcoming >> >> >> division, our social movements = are about ending intolerance, our >> great >> >> >> philanthropists promote ending = poverty and disease among the >> world's >> >> poor. >> >> >> Are people with intellectual= disabilities included in the >> mainstream of >> >> >> these movements? For the = most part, no. >> >> >> >> >> >> Why? Because they're different. Their joy doesn't = fit on magazine >> >> covers. >> >> >> Their spirituality doesn't come in self-help = television. Their >> kind of >> >> >> wealth doesn't command political attention. = (The best of the >> spirit >> >> never >> >> >> does.) >> >> >> >> >> >> Sadly, they're such an easy = target that many people don't realize >> whom >> >> they >> >> >> are making fun of when = they use the word "retard." Most people >> just >> >> think >> >> >> it's funny. "Stupid, = idiot, moron, retard." Ha, ha, ha. >> >> >> >> >> >> I know: I could be too sensitive.= But I was taught that mean isn't >> >> funny. >> >> >> And I've been to institutions = where people with intellectual >> >> disabilities >> >> >> are tied to beds or lie on = concrete floors, forgotten. I've heard >> >> doctors >> >> >> say they won't treat = them. I know Gallup found that more than 60 >> >> percent of >> >> >> Americans don't = want a person with an intellectual disability at >> their >> >> >> child's = school. >> >> >> >> >> >> I've talked to people with intellectual disabilities who = cry over >> >> being >> >> >> insulted on a bus. I've received too many e-mails from = people who >> are >> >> >> devastated not by their child's disability but by the = terror of >> being >> >> >> laughed at, excluded and economically devastated. >> >> >> It wasn't funny when Hollywood humiliated African Americans for a >> >> >> gener= ation. It's never funny when good and decent human beings are >> >> >> humiliated= . In fact, it is dangerous and disgusting. >> >> >> >> >> >> This film is all that = and more. DreamWorks went so far as to >> create a >> >> >> mini-version of Simple = Jack and posted it online. The studio has >> since >> >> >> pulled it down, = realizing it had gone too far, even in an age of >> edgy, >> >> >> R-rated = comedies. >> >> >> >> >> >> So, enough. Stop the hurtful jokes. Talk to your children = about >> >> language >> >> >> that is bullying and mean. Ask your friends, your = educators, your >> >> religious >> >> >> leaders to help us to end the stubborn myth = that people with >> >> intellectual >> >> >> disabilities are hopeless. Ask Hollywood = to get on the right side >> of >> >> >> dignity. >> >> >> >> >> >> I hope others will join me = in shutting this movie out of our lives >> and >> >> our >> >> >> pocketbooks. We don't = live in times when labeling and humiliating >> >> others is >> >> >> funny. And we = should send that message far and wide. >> >> >> >> >> >> *The writer is chairman of = Special Olympics and a columnist for >> >> >> washingtonpost.com's On Faith = discussion site.* >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> It's received mostly good reviews: >> >> >>> >> >> >>> http://www.metacritic.com/film/titles/tropicthunder >> >> >>> >> >> >>> That's a great website, btw. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> -Oliver >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> folk devil wrote: >> >> >>>> not sure i really want to....too many 'war' films...and a haha to >> bang >> >> >>>> bang doesn't really work for me at the mo.. >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> /"/ >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >>>> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:42:20 -0700 >> >> >>>> From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com >> >> >>>> To: gathering at misera.net >> >> >>>> Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> Anyone seen the movie yet? >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> ... ... ... ... ... ... >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> /*[looking at the current state of things]*/ >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> 'Save me... >> >> >>>> save me from Tomorrow.. >> >> >>>> I don't want to /sail //in this Ship Of Fools...!' / >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >>>> Your PC, mobile phone, and online services work together like >> never >> >> >>>> before. 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URL: From hollytree1961 at hotmail.com Wed Aug 20 06:17:05 2008 From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com (melinda grant) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:17:05 +0100 Subject: [kj] KJ ticket In-Reply-To: <7454a99b0808192327x3d8661cbn848b42ca99ea093e@mail.gmail.com> References: <7454a99b0808192327x3d8661cbn848b42ca99ea093e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: hi there brian;) glad you have recieved my extra k.j tix-- ok i have decided to give it to you for free,no buts ok,just enjoy the gig and have a great week ok ;D cheers milinda grant-raven/ in advance Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 07:27:33 +0100From: bawhitehead at gmail.comTo: hollytree1961 at hotmail.comSubject: KJ ticket Hi Melinda,Ticket was waiting on my door step when I got back from my weekend away.Just let me know if you want payment before the gig and I'll sort you out.Thanks x 100000Brian. _________________________________________________________________ Make a mini you on Windows Live Messenger! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/107571437/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fbc at 21ca.com Wed Aug 20 08:21:01 2008 From: fbc at 21ca.com (Frank Coleman) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 08:21:01 -0400 Subject: [kj] OT Boycott .the film Tropic Thunder In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48AC0C2D.3010100@21ca.com> Saw Tropic Thunder last night. Laughed my ass off. Anybody who thinks it's offensive to the mentally challenged obviously hasn't seen the movie. It's very clearly not. Well worth seeing for a great ensemble of comic performances, including Tom Cruise's best acting since Magnolia. I didn't even recognize him until the last scene! best, FBC From kj_mork at hotmail.com Wed Aug 20 09:34:38 2008 From: kj_mork at hotmail.com (Arvid Mork) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:34:38 +0200 Subject: [kj] KJ ticket In-Reply-To: References: <7454a99b0808192327x3d8661cbn848b42ca99ea093e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi everyone !! Anyone else have some extra tickets for the London gigs !? Yeah, I know I should have got them myselfe a long time ago, but it really didn't look like I was gonna be able to go to London ! PLEASE HELP !! :> Arvid (Norway) _________________________________________________________________ Finn dine favorittklipp p? MSN Video. http://video.msn.com/?mkt=nb-no&from=HMTAG -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kj_mork at hotmail.com Wed Aug 20 09:34:38 2008 From: kj_mork at hotmail.com (Arvid Mork) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:34:38 +0200 Subject: [kj] KJ ticket In-Reply-To: References: <7454a99b0808192327x3d8661cbn848b42ca99ea093e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi everyone !! Anyone else have some extra tickets for the London gigs !? Yeah, I know I should have got them myselfe a long time ago, but it really didn't look like I was gonna be able to go to London ! 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URL: From crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk Wed Aug 20 09:38:47 2008 From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk (Change) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 13:38:47 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] [OT] Speaking of pa pa In-Reply-To: <0K5V004B2VHKX6Z0@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> Message-ID: <726236.96604.qm@web23202.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Not all Christians are wussy abortions with due respect, yo! --- On Wed, 20/8/08, The Exorcist wrote: > From: The Exorcist > Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos > To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" > Date: Wednesday, 20 August, 2008, 6:05 AM > Ade sharp? > > He can't even cut a strawberry! > > At 04:52 PM 8/19/2008, Karen Weil wrote: > >Ade: > >With all due respect, no, actually I'm not. > >Look, let's make a deal here: Not all conservatives > (Republicans, > >right-wingers, etc.) are hypocritical, corrupt > warmongers who > >worship George Bush, and not all leftists (liberals, > Dems or > >whatever you want to call them) are wussy, > abortion-loving anti-Christians. > >(I use these cliches to prove a point, and I know a > sharp person > >like yourself understands the context.) > >And I have no use for scum like Gary Glitter. > > > >Keep on trucking, > > > >K.W. > > > >P.S. If I seem cranky, there's a reson: I'm so > damned fed up with > >how our presidential election is already turning into > another nasty, > >partisan-hyped and issue-free event. (No, I'm not > surprised, mind > >you -- just saddened, because the U.S. and its good > people suffer for it.) > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: ade > >To: A list about all > things Killing > >Joke (the band!) > >Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 1:46 PM > >Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos > > > >Respect ;) You are one of few... > >-----Original Message----- > >From: > >gathering-bounces at misera.net > > >[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Karen > Weil > >Sent: 19 August 2008 21:37 > >To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) > >Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos > > > >I'm a progressive, and I say, "string that > bastard up!" > >That strong enough for you, ade? > > > >Cheers, > > > >K.W. > >San Diego > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: ade > >To: A list about all > things Killing > >Joke (the band!) > >Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 1:30 PM > >Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos > > > >Of course, we couldn't string him up - that would > hurt our > >(unrealistic) lefty sensibilities... > >-----Original Message----- > >From: > >gathering-bounces at misera.net > > >[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of folk > devil > >Sent: 19 August 2008 17:08 > >To: > gathering at misera.net > >Subject: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos > > > >"THU DUC, Vietnam (Reuters) - Fallen British rock > star Gary Glitter > >has been freed from a Vietnamese prison after > completing a > >three-years sentence for molesting two young girls, his > lawyer said > >on Tuesday.... > >State media reported last week Glitter had been doing > chores at a > >prison clinic in Binh Thuan province, 190 km (118 > miles) north of Ho > >Chi Minh City and adjacent to the coastal province of > Ba Ria-Vung > >Tau where he molested two 11-year-old girls while > living in a villa." > >http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSHAN24257120080819 > > > > > > > > > > > >---------- > >Get ideas on sharing photos from people like you. Find > new ways to > >share. > >Get > > >Ideas Here! > > > > > >---------- > >_______________________________________________ > >Gathering mailing list > >Gathering at misera.net > >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > > >---------- > >_______________________________________________ > >Gathering mailing list > >Gathering at misera.net > >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Gathering mailing list > >Gathering at misera.net > >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > Competition is a barbaric, insensitive ritual that reeks of > social Darwinism. > We cannot allow the fittest to survive on our pages. Your > loss is someone > else's gain, and your gain is someone else's loss. > Therefore, losers contribute > to the society and winners take away from it. Being a > winner is > unethical, while > a society of losers is happy and striving as a collective. > In the > spirit of diversity, > inclusiveness, and collectivism our contests shall have no > winners. > Everyone is declared a loser, which in our book means an > ethical team player. > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk Wed Aug 20 10:06:28 2008 From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk (Change) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 14:06:28 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] And Now for SOMETHING Completely the Same: Butthole Surfers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <25796.16224.qm@web23202.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Egad the man next to me is watching pussy sucking video so time to send this over I guess... 22 Butthole Surfers came back from the dead with both drummers and a New York school of rock kids to help 'em teach 'em what to think down in Florida. There were rumours that Gibby didn't have his shit together but I didn't give a damn. Was I gonna pass up the chance to experience one of the greatest mindfuckin' rock rides this side of Tau Ceti? Hell no! Ford Prefect got the entry for Earth in "The Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy" upgraded from "Harmless" to "Mostly Harmless" after going to a Butthole Surfers gig. Not a lot of people know that, because I just made it up. So my freind from Preston who has not yet confessed to actually being from Betelgeuse (probably because he isn't) was asking me before the Manchester gig if I thought they'd play the John Peel Festive Fifty maxi-mega-hit that closes out that crazy "Locust Abortion Technicican" album and whaddya know? They only went and played it first. I don't think Gibby hollered on that one in Manchester but by the time they hit London Forum he'd got looser and loopier. It was damn fine to pay witness to the full on film backdrop as I'd only seen 'em twice before at the Reading festival where they interrupted the intellectual book readings to let us all know about booze, tobacco, dope, pussy, guns... Even better was the tribal heaviness of the double drummer pummel, as Theresa had left the band by the first time I got to see 'em between "Hairway to Steven" and "Widowermaker." Gibby made some passing comment about Morrissey because he was in Manchester, to witch I heckled "Magazine!" Synchronously, I ran into John Robb of Gold Blade outside the venue afterwards and he informed me that Magazine had reformed. I wasn't sure if he was pulling my leg but it seems to be true. Magnificent! He also opined that the second half of the gig was great but the first half was like a lot of sane people trying to remember how to be mad. We always disagree about something and I enjoyed the whole thing, even Gibby aborting "Florida" when he forgot that Sidney Poitier was a blind man and LBJ a Soviet Jew. 23 Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk Wed Aug 20 10:08:48 2008 From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk (Change) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 14:08:48 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] Tailspinning Sun Stations In-Reply-To: <408115.73594.qm@web27806.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <546433.88134.qm@web23204.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Could anyone out there on the other side of the planet or just across the river answer this question: Does the track "Tailspin" which was originally going to close the 2003 album exist? If so does anyone have an MP3 of it they could email to me here? I'd also be grateful if someone could email me MP3 of the original unreleased version of "Four Stations of the Sun" and Geordie's demos for the 2003 album. Arigato Gm/BH ? 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Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk Wed Aug 20 09:51:19 2008 From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk (Change) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 13:51:19 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] Tailspinning Sun Stations In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <653432.27418.qm@web23201.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Could anyone out there on the other side of the planet or just across the river answer this question: Does the track "Tailspin" which was originally going to close the 2003 album exist? If so does anyone have an MP3 of it they could email to me here? I'd also be grateful if someone could email me MP3 of the original unreleased version of "Four Stations of the Sun" and Geordie's demos for the 2003 album. Arigato Gm/BH Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com Wed Aug 20 12:01:33 2008 From: folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com (folk devil) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 09:01:33 -0700 Subject: [kj] Tailspinning Sun Stations In-Reply-To: <653432.27418.qm@web23201.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <653432.27418.qm@web23201.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Supposedly not released, but I am going to check soulseek later.. http://www.killingjoke.org.uk/unreleased.html > Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 13:51:19 +0000> From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: [kj] Tailspinning Sun Stations> > > Could anyone out there on the other side of the planet or just across the river answer this question:> > Does the track "Tailspin" which was originally going to close the 2003 album exist?> > If so does anyone have an MP3 of it they could email to me here?> _________________________________________________________________ See what people are saying about Windows Live. 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" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: karen.weil at sddt.com To: saulomar1 at yahoo.com; gathering at misera.net Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:09:48 -0700 Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos Amen on that one, fellow citizen. Unfortunately, Americans will eventually wake up to that (I hope they do, before it's too late ...) k.w. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ See what people are saying about Windows Live. Check out featured posts. Check It Out! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karen.weil at sddt.com Wed Aug 20 13:29:27 2008 From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 10:29:27 -0700 Subject: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC07215A@mr-pants.the-lab.local><8E417D53948245B8AC4835E6F37C5DB1@edweil> <0K5V004B2VHKX6Z0@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> Message-ID: Hardy-har, Exorcist! That's a killer! ; ) Put that one in the joke book! Ciao, k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: The Exorcist To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 10:05 PM Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos Ade sharp? He can't even cut a strawberry! At 04:52 PM 8/19/2008, Karen Weil wrote: Ade: With all due respect, no, actually I'm not. Look, let's make a deal here: Not all conservatives (Republicans, right-wingers, etc.) are hypocritical, corrupt warmongers who worship George Bush, and not all leftists (liberals, Dems or whatever you want to call them) are wussy, abortion-loving anti-Christians. (I use these cliches to prove a point, and I know a sharp person like yourself understands the context.) And I have no use for scum like Gary Glitter. Keep on trucking, K.W. P.S. If I seem cranky, there's a reson: I'm so damned fed up with how our presidential election is already turning into another nasty, partisan-hyped and issue-free event. (No, I'm not surprised, mind you -- just saddened, because the U.S. and its good people suffer for it.) ----- Original Message ----- From: ade To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 1:46 PM Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos Respect ;) You are one of few... -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Karen Weil Sent: 19 August 2008 21:37 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos I'm a progressive, and I say, "string that bastard up!" That strong enough for you, ade? Cheers, K.W. San Diego ----- Original Message ----- From: ade To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 1:30 PM Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos Of course, we couldn't string him up - that would hurt our (unrealistic) lefty sensibilities... -----Original Message----- From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of folk devil Sent: 19 August 2008 17:08 To: gathering at misera.net Subject: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos "THU DUC, Vietnam (Reuters) - Fallen British rock star Gary Glitter has been freed from a Vietnamese prison after completing a three-years sentence for molesting two young girls, his lawyer said on Tuesday.... State media reported last week Glitter had been doing chores at a prison clinic in Binh Thuan province, 190 km (118 miles) north of Ho Chi Minh City and adjacent to the coastal province of Ba Ria-Vung Tau where he molested two 11-year-old girls while living in a villa." http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSHAN24257120080819 -------------------------------------------------------------------- Get ideas on sharing photos from people like you. Find new ways to share. 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In the spirit of diversity, inclusiveness, and collectivism our contests shall have no winners. Everyone is declared a loser, which in our book means an ethical team player. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karen.weil at sddt.com Wed Aug 20 13:30:20 2008 From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 10:30:20 -0700 Subject: [kj] [OT] Speaking of pa pa References: <726236.96604.qm@web23202.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <89E0682FF8FD4EDC86983B50911458C8@edweil> Huh? Sorry, dude, but that one isn't translating. k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Change" To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 6:38 AM Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Speaking of pa pa > Not all Christians are wussy abortions with due respect, yo! > > --- On Wed, 20/8/08, The Exorcist wrote: > >> From: The Exorcist >> Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos >> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" >> >> Date: Wednesday, 20 August, 2008, 6:05 AM >> Ade sharp? >> >> He can't even cut a strawberry! >> >> At 04:52 PM 8/19/2008, Karen Weil wrote: >> >Ade: >> >With all due respect, no, actually I'm not. >> >Look, let's make a deal here: Not all conservatives >> (Republicans, >> >right-wingers, etc.) are hypocritical, corrupt >> warmongers who >> >worship George Bush, and not all leftists (liberals, >> Dems or >> >whatever you want to call them) are wussy, >> abortion-loving anti-Christians. >> >(I use these cliches to prove a point, and I know a >> sharp person >> >like yourself understands the context.) >> >And I have no use for scum like Gary Glitter. >> > >> >Keep on trucking, >> > >> >K.W. >> > >> >P.S. If I seem cranky, there's a reson: I'm so >> damned fed up with >> >how our presidential election is already turning into >> another nasty, >> >partisan-hyped and issue-free event. (No, I'm not >> surprised, mind >> >you -- just saddened, because the U.S. and its good >> people suffer for it.) >> >----- Original Message ----- >> >From: ade >> >To: A list about all >> things Killing >> >Joke (the band!) >> >Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 1:46 PM >> >Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos >> > >> >Respect ;) You are one of few... >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: >> >gathering-bounces at misera.net >> >> >[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Karen >> Weil >> >Sent: 19 August 2008 21:37 >> >To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) >> >Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos >> > >> >I'm a progressive, and I say, "string that >> bastard up!" >> >That strong enough for you, ade? >> > >> >Cheers, >> > >> >K.W. >> >San Diego >> >----- Original Message ----- >> >From: ade >> >To: A list about all >> things Killing >> >Joke (the band!) >> >Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 1:30 PM >> >Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos >> > >> >Of course, we couldn't string him up - that would >> hurt our >> >(unrealistic) lefty sensibilities... >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: >> >gathering-bounces at misera.net >> >> >[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of folk >> devil >> >Sent: 19 August 2008 17:08 >> >To: >> gathering at misera.net >> >Subject: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos >> > >> >"THU DUC, Vietnam (Reuters) - Fallen British rock >> star Gary Glitter >> >has been freed from a Vietnamese prison after >> completing a >> >three-years sentence for molesting two young girls, his >> lawyer said >> >on Tuesday.... >> >State media reported last week Glitter had been doing >> chores at a >> >prison clinic in Binh Thuan province, 190 km (118 >> miles) north of Ho >> >Chi Minh City and adjacent to the coastal province of >> Ba Ria-Vung >> >Tau where he molested two 11-year-old girls while >> living in a villa." >> >http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSHAN24257120080819 >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >---------- >> >Get ideas on sharing photos from people like you. Find >> new ways to >> >share. >> >Get >> >> >Ideas Here! >> > >> > >> >---------- >> >_______________________________________________ >> >Gathering mailing list >> >Gathering at misera.net >> >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >> > >> > >> >---------- >> >_______________________________________________ >> >Gathering mailing list >> >Gathering at misera.net >> >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >> > >> >_______________________________________________ >> >Gathering mailing list >> >Gathering at misera.net >> >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >> >> Competition is a barbaric, insensitive ritual that reeks of >> social Darwinism. >> We cannot allow the fittest to survive on our pages. Your >> loss is someone >> else's gain, and your gain is someone else's loss. >> Therefore, losers contribute >> to the society and winners take away from it. Being a >> winner is >> unethical, while >> a society of losers is happy and striving as a collective. >> In the >> spirit of diversity, >> inclusiveness, and collectivism our contests shall have no >> winners. >> Everyone is declared a loser, which in our book means an >> ethical team player. >> _______________________________________________ >> Gathering mailing list >> Gathering at misera.net >> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From karen.weil at sddt.com Wed Aug 20 13:31:31 2008 From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 10:31:31 -0700 Subject: [kj] thoughts on upcoming KJ album..if it happens References: Message-ID: <8167677D077F4A76BF0F509BF5DF7C7C@edweil> Cool. Excited about hearing the new stuff, too. And thank God Big Paul is back! k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: mike To: gathering at misera.net Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 7:48 AM Subject: Re: [kj] thoughts on upcoming KJ album..if it happens I was just listening to Geordie's demos last night...soo much great stuff on there! Love that playing style (sort of open-ended) and really hope the new album will contain some of it. obviously hope it is well produced;) and also looking forward to hearing Big Paul on the drums again. He was fantastic on Transmission! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Happiness, Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Change" To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 7:06 AM Subject: [kj] And Now for SOMETHING Completely the Same: Butthole Surfers > > Egad the man next to me is watching pussy sucking video so time to send > this over I guess... > > 22 > > Butthole Surfers came back from the dead with both drummers and a New York > school of rock kids to help 'em teach 'em what to think down in Florida. > There were rumours that Gibby didn't have his shit together but I didn't > give a damn. Was I gonna pass up the chance to experience one of the > greatest mindfuckin' rock rides this side of Tau Ceti? Hell no! Ford > Prefect got the entry for Earth in "The Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy" > upgraded from "Harmless" to "Mostly Harmless" after going to a Butthole > Surfers gig. Not a lot of people know that, because I just made it up. > > So my freind from Preston who has not yet confessed to actually being from > Betelgeuse (probably because he isn't) was asking me before the Manchester > gig if I thought they'd play the John Peel Festive Fifty maxi-mega-hit > that closes out that crazy "Locust Abortion Technicican" album and whaddya > know? They only went and played it first. I don't think Gibby hollered on > that one in Manchester but by the time they hit London Forum he'd got > looser and loopier. > > It was damn fine to pay witness to the full on film backdrop as I'd only > seen 'em twice before at the Reading festival where they interrupted the > intellectual book readings to let us all know about booze, tobacco, dope, > pussy, guns... Even better was the tribal heaviness of the double drummer > pummel, as Theresa had left the band by the first time I got to see 'em > between "Hairway to Steven" and "Widowermaker." > > Gibby made some passing comment about Morrissey because he was in > Manchester, to witch I heckled "Magazine!" Synchronously, I ran into John > Robb of Gold Blade outside the venue afterwards and he informed me that > Magazine had reformed. I wasn't sure if he was pulling my leg but it seems > to be true. Magnificent! He also opined that the second half of the gig > was great but the first half was like a lot of sane people trying to > remember how to be mad. We always disagree about something and I enjoyed > the whole thing, even Gibby aborting "Florida" when he forgot that Sidney > Poitier was a blind man and LBJ a Soviet Jew. > > 23 > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com Wed Aug 20 14:49:26 2008 From: folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com (folk devil) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:49:26 -0700 Subject: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos In-Reply-To: References: <125379.32261.qm@web52612.mail.re2.yahoo.com><862AC29E5B984159893434D8D6412365@edweil> Message-ID: What don't you believe, that American voters currently only have the choice of either Business as usual A, or Business as usual B, and that the way the system is designed would only lead to a Business as usual C? What's with the dude, dudette? " From: karen.weil at sddt.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 10:26:56 -0700Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos Call me hopelessly naive, but I refuse to believe that. Every once and while, American voters do wake up and do the right thing. It doesn't happen enough, of course, but those few times give me a reason to hope. And that's my 2 cents for the day. Have a good one, dude. k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: folk devil To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 5:11 PM Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos 200 years isn't long enough? ;)They'd probably only end up being a corporate puppet, anyway..." From: karen.weil at sddt.comTo: saulomar1 at yahoo.com; gathering at misera.netDate: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:09:48 -0700Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos Amen on that one, fellow citizen. Unfortunately, Americans will eventually wake up to that (I hope they do, before it's too late ...) k.w. 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Regards, Antoni ----- Original Message ----- From: mike To: gathering at misera.net Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 3:48 PM Subject: Re: [kj] thoughts on upcoming KJ album..if it happens I was just listening to Geordie's demos last night...soo much great stuff on there! Love that playing style (sort of open-ended) and really hope the new album will contain some of it. obviously hope it is well produced;) and also looking forward to hearing Big Paul on the drums again. He was fantastic on Transmission! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. 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I'm off my soapbox for now! Tot ziens, k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: folk devil To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 11:49 AM Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos What don't you believe, that American voters currently only have the choice of either Business as usual A, or Business as usual B, and that the way the system is designed would only lead to a Business as usual C? What's with the dude, dudette? " ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: karen.weil at sddt.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 10:26:56 -0700 Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos Call me hopelessly naive, but I refuse to believe that. Every once and while, American voters do wake up and do the right thing. It doesn't happen enough, of course, but those few times give me a reason to hope. And that's my 2 cents for the day. 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[looking at the current?state of things] 'Save me... ? save me?from Tomorrow.. ?? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...!'?? --- On Wed, 8/20/08, folk devil wrote: From: folk devil Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" Date: Wednesday, August 20, 2008, 11:49 AM #yiv1958102340 .hmmessage P { margin:0px;padding:0px;} #yiv1958102340 { FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma;} What don't you believe, that American voters currently only have the choice of either Business as usual A, or Business as usual B, and that the way the system is designed would only lead to a Business as usual?C? What's with the dude, dudette? " From: karen.weil at sddt.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 10:26:56 -0700 Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos #yiv1958102340 .ExternalClass .EC_hmmessage P {padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-top:0px;} #yiv1958102340 .ExternalClass BODY.EC_hmmessage {font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma;} Call me hopelessly naive, but I refuse to believe that. Every once and while, American voters do wake up and do the right thing. It doesn't happen enough, of course, but those few times give me a reason to hope. And that's my 2 cents for the day. Have a good one, dude. ? k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: folk devil To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 5:11 PM Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos 200 years isn't long enough? ;) They'd probably only end up being a corporate puppet, anyway... " From: karen.weil at sddt.com To: saulomar1 at yahoo.com; gathering at misera.net Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:09:48 -0700 Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos Amen on that one, fellow citizen. ? Unfortunately, Americans will eventually wake up to that (I hope they do, before it's too late ...) ? k.w. ? See what people are saying about Windows Live. Check out featured posts. Check It Out! _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering Get thousands of games on your PC, your mobile phone, and the web with Windows?. Game with Windows _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From saulomar1 at yahoo.com Wed Aug 20 15:57:16 2008 From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com (sade1) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:57:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos Message-ID: <507047.70322.qm@web52607.mail.re2.yahoo.com> ? Forgot to add to that last comment?that the Youtube vid is only a hoax,??btw, but the articles are real. ? 8) ? ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current?state of things] 'Save me... ? save me?from Tomorrow.. ?? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...!'?? --- On Wed, 8/20/08, sade1 wrote: From: sade1 Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" Date: Wednesday, August 20, 2008, 12:46 PM ?~~ "every day, in every way, is getting better and better..." ~~ ? ? ? ? My cousin sent me?this week?some MTV videos on Youtube about possible U.S.Martial Law, and i checked Youtube [now the video?Wikipedia] and I sent him this video clip in response: ? "So, Marshall Law in the worx? you be the judge: Another Youtube video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXfXuk6aWJc&NR=1 Note at: ?-- 1:20 ?gasp of shock ?-- 1:41 new Bill Of Rights" ? and a couple of?links.. ? ?-- Bush Order allowing for Martial Law - http://www.truthout.org/article/bush-executive-order-targets-domestic-assets ?-- a recent piece by Naomi Wolf ??? on how it could all turn out - http://www.truthout.org/article/naomi-wolf-the-end-america-may-happen ? ? ? ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current?state of things] 'Save me... ? save me?from Tomorrow.. ?? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...!'?? --- On Wed, 8/20/08, folk devil wrote: From: folk devil Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" Date: Wednesday, August 20, 2008, 11:49 AM #yiv509902126 #yiv1958102340 .hmmessage P { margin:0px;padding:0px;} #yiv509902126 #yiv1958102340 { FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma;} What don't you believe, that American voters currently only have the choice of either Business as usual A, or Business as usual B, and that the way the system is designed would only lead to a Business as usual?C? What's with the dude, dudette? " From: karen.weil at sddt.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 10:26:56 -0700 Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos #yiv509902126 #yiv1958102340 .ExternalClass .EC_hmmessage P {padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-top:0px;} #yiv509902126 #yiv1958102340 .ExternalClass BODY.EC_hmmessage {font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma;} Call me hopelessly naive, but I refuse to believe that. Every once and while, American voters do wake up and do the right thing. It doesn't happen enough, of course, but those few times give me a reason to hope. And that's my 2 cents for the day. Have a good one, dude. ? k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: folk devil To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 5:11 PM Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos 200 years isn't long enough? ;) They'd probably only end up being a corporate puppet, anyway... " From: karen.weil at sddt.com To: saulomar1 at yahoo.com; gathering at misera.net Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:09:48 -0700 Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos Amen on that one, fellow citizen. ? Unfortunately, Americans will eventually wake up to that (I hope they do, before it's too late ...) ? k.w. ? See what people are saying about Windows Live. Check out featured posts. Check It Out! _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering Get thousands of games on your PC, your mobile phone, and the web with Windows?. Game with Windows _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com Wed Aug 20 16:50:35 2008 From: folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com (folk devil) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 13:50:35 -0700 Subject: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos In-Reply-To: <507047.70322.qm@web52607.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <507047.70322.qm@web52607.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: no, it was classified ;) lol! Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:57:16 -0700From: saulomar1 at yahoo.comTo: gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos Forgot to add to that last comment that the Youtube vid is only a hoax, btw, but the articles are real. 8) ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...!' --- On Wed, 8/20/08, sade1 wrote: From: sade1 Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedosTo: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" Date: Wednesday, August 20, 2008, 12:46 PM ~~ "every day, in every way, is getting better and better..." ~~ My cousin sent me this week some MTV videos on Youtube about possible U.S.Martial Law, and i checked Youtube [now the video Wikipedia] and I sent him this video clip in response: "So, Marshall Law in the worx? you be the judge: Another Youtube video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXfXuk6aWJc&NR=1 Note at: -- 1:20 gasp of shock -- 1:41 new Bill Of Rights" and a couple of links.. -- Bush Order allowing for Martial Law - http://www.truthout.org/article/bush-executive-order-targets-domestic-assets -- a recent piece by Naomi Wolf on how it could all turn out - http://www.truthout.org/article/naomi-wolf-the-end-america-may-happen ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...!' --- On Wed, 8/20/08, folk devil wrote: From: folk devil Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedosTo: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" Date: Wednesday, August 20, 2008, 11:49 AM What don't you believe, that American voters currently only have the choice of either Business as usual A, or Business as usual B, and that the way the system is designed would only lead to a Business as usual C?What's with the dude, dudette?" From: karen.weil at sddt.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 10:26:56 -0700Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos Call me hopelessly naive, but I refuse to believe that. Every once and while, American voters do wake up and do the right thing. It doesn't happen enough, of course, but those few times give me a reason to hope. And that's my 2 cents for the day. Have a good one, dude. k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: folk devil To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 5:11 PM Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos 200 years isn't long enough? ;)They'd probably only end up being a corporate puppet, anyway..." From: karen.weil at sddt.comTo: saulomar1 at yahoo.com; gathering at misera.netDate: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:09:48 -0700Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos Amen on that one, fellow citizen. Unfortunately, Americans will eventually wake up to that (I hope they do, before it's too late ...) k.w. See what people are saying about Windows Live. Check out featured posts. Check It Out! _______________________________________________Gathering mailing listGathering at misera.nethttp://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering Get thousands of games on your PC, your mobile phone, and the web with Windows?. Game with Windows _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________________ Get thousands of games on your PC, your mobile phone, and the web with Windows?. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/108588800/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com Wed Aug 20 17:06:22 2008 From: folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com (folk devil) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 14:06:22 -0700 Subject: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos - warcorps In-Reply-To: References: <507047.70322.qm@web52607.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Just got thrown this, by a colleague.. "In his farewell address to the nation, President Eisenhower warned of the great danger of the military-industrial complex, the seamless relationship between the government and the private corporations it contracts: the confluence of business and politics. Many point to this speech as prophetic of what is occurring within America today. We've all heard the stories about the current administration's curious business ties, from Halliburton to the Carlyle Group, but there's a much larger constituency benefiting from America's recent political motivations -- one that, until recently, was virtually unknown." http://www.1up.com/do/feature?cId=3160705 From: folkdevil_23 at hotmail.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 13:50:35 -0700Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos no, it was classified ;)lol! Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:57:16 -0700From: saulomar1 at yahoo.comTo: gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos Forgot to add to that last comment that the Youtube vid is only a hoax, btw, but the articles are real. 8) ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...!' --- On Wed, 8/20/08, sade1 wrote: From: sade1 Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedosTo: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" Date: Wednesday, August 20, 2008, 12:46 PM ~~ "every day, in every way, is getting better and better..." ~~ My cousin sent me this week some MTV videos on Youtube about possible U.S.Martial Law, and i checked Youtube [now the video Wikipedia] and I sent him this video clip in response: "So, Marshall Law in the worx? you be the judge: Another Youtube video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXfXuk6aWJc&NR=1 Note at: -- 1:20 gasp of shock -- 1:41 new Bill Of Rights" and a couple of links.. -- Bush Order allowing for Martial Law - http://www.truthout.org/article/bush-executive-order-targets-domestic-assets -- a recent piece by Naomi Wolf on how it could all turn out - http://www.truthout.org/article/naomi-wolf-the-end-america-may-happen ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current state of things] 'Save me... save me from Tomorrow.. I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...!' --- On Wed, 8/20/08, folk devil wrote: From: folk devil Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedosTo: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" Date: Wednesday, August 20, 2008, 11:49 AM What don't you believe, that American voters currently only have the choice of either Business as usual A, or Business as usual B, and that the way the system is designed would only lead to a Business as usual C?What's with the dude, dudette?" From: karen.weil at sddt.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 10:26:56 -0700Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos Call me hopelessly naive, but I refuse to believe that. Every once and while, American voters do wake up and do the right thing. It doesn't happen enough, of course, but those few times give me a reason to hope. And that's my 2 cents for the day. Have a good one, dude. k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: folk devil To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 5:11 PM Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos 200 years isn't long enough? ;)They'd probably only end up being a corporate puppet, anyway..." From: karen.weil at sddt.comTo: saulomar1 at yahoo.com; gathering at misera.netDate: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:09:48 -0700Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos Amen on that one, fellow citizen. Unfortunately, Americans will eventually wake up to that (I hope they do, before it's too late ...) k.w. See what people are saying about Windows Live. Check out featured posts. Check It Out! _______________________________________________Gathering mailing listGathering at misera.nethttp://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering Get thousands of games on your PC, your mobile phone, and the web with Windows?. 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Oliver Sheppard) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:09:03 -0500 Subject: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos - warcorps In-Reply-To: References: <507047.70322.qm@web52607.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <48AC87EF.7010600@sbcglobal.net> That's Eisenhower's famous "military industrial complex" speech. The speech is the basis for the documentary "Why We Fight," which explores the theme you mention. I think it came out 2003 or 2004. Good stuff! -Oliver folk devil wrote: > Just got thrown this, by a colleague.. > > "In his farewell address to the nation, President Eisenhower warned of > the great danger of the military-industrial complex, the seamless > relationship between the government and the private corporations it > contracts: the confluence of business and politics. Many point to this > speech as prophetic of what is occurring within America today. We've > all heard the stories about the current administration's curious > business ties, from Halliburton to the Carlyle Group, but there's a > much larger constituency benefiting from America's recent political > motivations -- one that, until recently, was virtually unknown." > > http://www.1up.com/do/feature?cId=3160705 > > From folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com Wed Aug 20 17:15:18 2008 From: folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com (folk devil) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 14:15:18 -0700 Subject: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos - warcorps In-Reply-To: <48AC87EF.7010600@sbcglobal.net> References: <507047.70322.qm@web52607.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <48AC87EF.7010600@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Cheers for the documentary Nugget. I will check it out. :) "> Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:09:03 -0500> From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos - warcorps> > That's Eisenhower's famous "military industrial complex" speech.> > The speech is the basis for the documentary "Why We Fight," which > explores the theme you mention. I think it came out 2003 or 2004. Good > stuff!> > -Oliver> > > folk devil wrote:> > Just got thrown this, by a colleague..> > > > "In his farewell address to the nation, President Eisenhower warned of > > the great danger of the military-industrial complex, the seamless > > relationship between the government and the private corporations it > > contracts: the confluence of business and politics. Many point to this > > speech as prophetic of what is occurring within America today. We've > > all heard the stories about the current administration's curious > > business ties, from Halliburton to the Carlyle Group, but there's a > > much larger constituency benefiting from America's recent political > > motivations -- one that, until recently, was virtually unknown."> > > > http://www.1up.com/do/feature?cId=3160705> >> >> _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________________ See what people are saying about Windows Live. Check out featured posts. http://www.windowslive.com/connect?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_connect2_082008 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From saulomar1 at yahoo.com Wed Aug 20 17:24:10 2008 From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com (sade1) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 14:24:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos - warcorps In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <667091.60105.qm@web52609.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Read this a while back: ? "President Dwight D. Eisenhower identified this ??phenomenon, in the draft version??of his 1961 ? farewell address, as the "military-industrial-congressional complex,".. ? ?..but later?removed it because i think his handlers ?said it was way too objectionable to say,?or sumthin'. ?~~?Evil Empire: ????? Is Imperial Liquidation Possible for America? ???? ?By Chalmers Johnson;?TomDispatch.com ? ? ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current?state of things] 'Save me... ? save me?from Tomorrow.. ?? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...!'?? --- On Wed, 8/20/08, folk devil wrote: From: folk devil Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos - warcorps To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" Date: Wednesday, August 20, 2008, 2:06 PM #yiv194610412 .hmmessage P { margin:0px;padding:0px;} #yiv194610412 { FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma;} Just got thrown this, by a colleague.. ? "In his farewell address to the nation, President Eisenhower warned of the great danger of the military-industrial complex, the seamless relationship between the government and the private corporations it contracts: the confluence of business and politics. Many point to this speech as prophetic of what is occurring within America today. We've all heard the stories about the current administration's curious business ties, from Halliburton to the Carlyle Group, but there's a much larger constituency benefiting from America's recent political motivations -- one that, until recently, was virtually unknown." ? ?http://www.1up.com/do/feature?cId=3160705 From: folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 13:50:35 -0700 Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos #yiv194610412 .ExternalClass .EC_hmmessage P {padding:0px;} #yiv194610412 .ExternalClass body.EC_hmmessage {font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma;} no, it was classified ;) lol! Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:57:16 -0700 From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos ? Forgot to add to that last comment?that the Youtube vid is only a hoax,??btw, but the articles are real. ? 8) ? ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current?state of things] 'Save me... ? save me?from Tomorrow.. ?? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...!'?? --- On Wed, 8/20/08, sade1 wrote: From: sade1 Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" Date: Wednesday, August 20, 2008, 12:46 PM ?~~ "every day, in every way, is getting better and better..." ~~ ? ? ? ? My cousin sent me?this week?some MTV videos on Youtube about possible U.S.Martial Law, and i checked Youtube [now the video?Wikipedia] and I sent him this video clip in response: ? "So, Marshall Law in the worx? you be the judge: Another Youtube video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXfXuk6aWJc&NR=1 Note at: ?-- 1:20 ?gasp of shock ?-- 1:41 new Bill Of Rights" ? and a couple of?links.. ? ?-- Bush Order allowing for Martial Law - http://www.truthout.org/article/bush-executive-order-targets-domestic-assets ?-- a recent piece by Naomi Wolf ??? on how it could all turn out - http://www.truthout.org/article/naomi-wolf-the-end-america-may-happen ? ? ? ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current?state of things] 'Save me... ? save me?from Tomorrow.. ?? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...!'?? --- On Wed, 8/20/08, folk devil wrote: From: folk devil Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" Date: Wednesday, August 20, 2008, 11:49 AM #yiv194610412 .ExternalClass #EC_yiv509902126 #EC_yiv1958102340 .EC_hmmessage P {padding:0px;} #yiv194610412 .ExternalClass #EC_yiv509902126 #EC_yiv1958102340 {font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma;} What don't you believe, that American voters currently only have the choice of either Business as usual A, or Business as usual B, and that the way the system is designed would only lead to a Business as usual?C? What's with the dude, dudette? " From: karen.weil at sddt.com To: gathering at misera.net Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 10:26:56 -0700 Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos #yiv194610412 .ExternalClass #EC_yiv509902126 #EC_yiv1958102340 .EC_ExternalClass .EC_EC_hmmessage P {padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-top:0px;} #yiv194610412 .ExternalClass #EC_yiv509902126 #EC_yiv1958102340 .EC_ExternalClass BODY.EC_EC_hmmessage {font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma;} Call me hopelessly naive, but I refuse to believe that. Every once and while, American voters do wake up and do the right thing. It doesn't happen enough, of course, but those few times give me a reason to hope. And that's my 2 cents for the day. Have a good one, dude. ? k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: folk devil To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 5:11 PM Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos 200 years isn't long enough? ;) They'd probably only end up being a corporate puppet, anyway... " From: karen.weil at sddt.com To: saulomar1 at yahoo.com; gathering at misera.net Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:09:48 -0700 Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos Amen on that one, fellow citizen. ? Unfortunately, Americans will eventually wake up to that (I hope they do, before it's too late ...) ? k.w. ? See what people are saying about Windows Live. Check out featured posts. Check It Out! _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering Get thousands of games on your PC, your mobile phone, and the web with Windows?. 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Sent: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 23:34 Subject: Re: [kj] ot eastenders ? ? ?apparently,bradly was showing my niece around--?jacks flat and the three year old(her son)was in the push chair ,it was only a small role,but could be the start of something big for them there going to appear in?east enders again later next month?;D ? i wish her so much luck as she has not had alot recently :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ? Didn't see it but fingers crossed that it's the beginning of a successful career. ? ? _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ________________________________________________________________________ AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today. From vaio719 at livedoor.com Thu Aug 21 05:32:17 2008 From: vaio719 at livedoor.com (vaio719) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:32:17 +0900 Subject: [kj] [OT] KILLING JOKE + OCTOBER FILE Message-ID: <91476d3f0808210232j7d6eb2f0v6c80f0acf5c0b0f3@mail.gmail.com> LE TRABENDO http://www.trabendo.fr/ french jokes strikes again? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Thu Aug 21 05:45:47 2008 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:45:47 +1200 (NZST) Subject: [kj] OT Boycott .the film Tropic Thunder In-Reply-To: <48AC0C2D.3010100@21ca.com> References: <48AC0C2D.3010100@21ca.com> Message-ID: <4853.124.170.218.248.1219311947.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz> Tom Cruises's best since Magnolias (which I actually enjoyed) is undoubledly this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFBZ_uAbxS0 > Saw Tropic Thunder last night. > > Laughed my ass off. > > Anybody who thinks it's offensive to the mentally challenged obviously > hasn't seen the movie. It's very clearly not. > > Well worth seeing for a great ensemble of comic performances, including > Tom Cruise's best acting since Magnolia. I didn't even recognize him > until the last scene! > > best, > FBC > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net Thu Aug 21 05:58:51 2008 From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net (B. Oliver Sheppard) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 04:58:51 -0500 Subject: [kj] OT Boycott .the film Tropic Thunder In-Reply-To: <4853.124.170.218.248.1219311947.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz> References: <48AC0C2D.3010100@21ca.com> <4853.124.170.218.248.1219311947.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz> Message-ID: <48AD3C5B.5010208@sbcglobal.net> HAHA! If a man sitting next to me on the bus was saying the EXACT same stuff Cruise is saying in that video, I'd think he had just escaped from a mental institution. Seriously, I would. This Scientology video and his performance in Cocktail are his two best roles... -Oliver Brendan wrote: > Tom Cruises's best since Magnolias (which I actually enjoyed) is > undoubledly this: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFBZ_uAbxS0 > > > > From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Thu Aug 21 06:04:21 2008 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 22:04:21 +1200 (NZST) Subject: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos In-Reply-To: References: <125379.32261.qm@web52612.mail.re2.yahoo.com><862AC29E5B984159893434D8D6412365@edweil> Message-ID: <4939.124.170.218.248.1219313061.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz> Sorry can't resist...there's only one Dude: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Stbuu9RFQ84 > > What don't you believe, that American voters currently only have the > choice of either Business as usual A, or Business as usual B, and that the > way the system is designed would only lead to a Business as usual C? > What's with the dude, dudette? > " > > > > From: karen.weil at sddt.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 > 10:26:56 -0700Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos > > > > Call me hopelessly naive, but I refuse to believe that. Every once and > while, American voters do wake up and do the right thing. It doesn't > happen enough, of course, but those few times give me a reason to hope. > And that's my 2 cents for the day. Have a good one, dude. > > k.w. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: folk devil > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) > Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 5:11 PM > Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos > 200 years isn't long enough? ;)They'd probably only end up being a > corporate puppet, anyway..." > > From: karen.weil at sddt.comTo: saulomar1 at yahoo.com; > gathering at misera.netDate: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:09:48 -0700Subject: Re: [kj] > [OT] Speaking of paedos > Amen on that one, fellow citizen. > > Unfortunately, Americans will eventually wake up to that (I hope they do, > before it's too late ...) > > k.w. > > > See what people are saying about Windows Live. Check out featured posts. > Check It Out! > > > > _______________________________________________Gathering mailing > listGathering at misera.nethttp://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > _________________________________________________________________ > Get thousands of games on your PC, your mobile phone, and the web with > Windows?. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/108588800/direct/01/_______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Thu Aug 21 06:12:18 2008 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 22:12:18 +1200 (NZST) Subject: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos - warcorps In-Reply-To: References: <507047.70322.qm@web52607.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <48AC87EF.7010600@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <1077.124.170.218.248.1219313538.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz> Hey, you never call anyone else Nugget...what's going on between you two...? PS: I prefer 'Cupcake' or 'Sweetie' if anyone cares ;p > > Cheers for the documentary Nugget. I will check it out. :) > > "> Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:09:03 -0500> From: > bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re: [kj] > [OT] Speaking of paedos - warcorps> > That's Eisenhower's famous "military > industrial complex" speech.> > The speech is the basis for the documentary > "Why We Fight," which > explores the theme you mention. I think it came > out 2003 or 2004. Good > stuff!> > -Oliver> > > folk devil wrote:> > Just > got thrown this, by a colleague..> > > > "In his farewell address to the > nation, President Eisenhower warned of > > the great danger of the > military-industrial complex, the seamless > > relationship between the > government and the private corporations it > > contracts: the confluence > of business and politics. Many point to this > > speech as prophetic of > what is occurring within America today. We've > > all heard the stories > about the current administration's curious > > business ties, from > Halliburton to the Carlyle Group, but there's a > > much larger > constituency benefiting from America's recent political > > motivations -- > one that, until recently, was virtually unknown."> > > > > http://www.1up.com/do/feature?cId=3160705> >> >> > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> > Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > _________________________________________________________________ > See what people are saying about Windows Live. Check out featured posts. > http://www.windowslive.com/connect?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_connect2_082008_______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Thu Aug 21 06:18:04 2008 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 22:18:04 +1200 (NZST) Subject: [kj] OT Boycott .the film Tropic Thunder In-Reply-To: <48AD3C5B.5010208@sbcglobal.net> References: <48AC0C2D.3010100@21ca.com> <4853.124.170.218.248.1219311947.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz> <48AD3C5B.5010208@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <1091.124.170.218.248.1219313884.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz> Hey, that man on the bus might be the only one who could help if there was a crash! > HAHA! If a man sitting next to me on the bus was saying the EXACT same > stuff Cruise is saying in that video, I'd think he had just escaped from > a mental institution. Seriously, I would. > > This Scientology video and his performance in Cocktail are his two best > roles... > > -Oliver > > > Brendan wrote: >> Tom Cruises's best since Magnolias (which I actually enjoyed) is >> undoubledly this: >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFBZ_uAbxS0 >> >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From kj_mork at hotmail.com Thu Aug 21 08:03:54 2008 From: kj_mork at hotmail.com (Arvid Mork) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 14:03:54 +0200 Subject: [kj] KJ ticket In-Reply-To: <7454a99b0808200743p102521e3o912d180d9f7915be@mail.gmail.com> References: <7454a99b0808192327x3d8661cbn848b42ca99ea093e@mail.gmail.com> <7454a99b0808200743p102521e3o912d180d9f7915be@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Yeah ! Probably better to go to Paris !? Any thougths !? AAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarvid join the queue :-) Brian. 2008/8/20 Arvid Mork Hi everyone !! Anyone else have some extra tickets for the London gigs !? Yeah, I know I should have got them myselfe a long time ago, but it really didn't look like I was gonna be able to go to London ! PLEASE HELP !! :> Arvid (Norway) _________________________________________________________________ Finn dine favorittklipp p? MSN Video. http://video.msn.com/?mkt=nb-no&from=HMTAG -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kj_mork at hotmail.com Thu Aug 21 08:33:50 2008 From: kj_mork at hotmail.com (Arvid Mork) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 14:33:50 +0200 Subject: [kj] KJ ticket In-Reply-To: References: <7454a99b0808192327x3d8661cbn848b42ca99ea093e@mail.gmail.com> <7454a99b0808200743p102521e3o912d180d9f7915be@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi, everyon ! :> Anyone know if there are still tickets for Berlin, Paris and Brussels !? Anyone have links to tickets and hotels in these places ? 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URL: From vaio719 at livedoor.com Thu Aug 21 08:54:22 2008 From: vaio719 at livedoor.com (vaio719) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:54:22 +0900 Subject: [kj] KJ ticket In-Reply-To: References: <7454a99b0808192327x3d8661cbn848b42ca99ea093e@mail.gmail.com> <7454a99b0808200743p102521e3o912d180d9f7915be@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <91476d3f0808210554x7c8e752an49b2e709e0e25fa1@mail.gmail.com> Berlin: http://www.columbiaclub.de/ Paris: http://www.trabendo.fr/ Brussels: http://www.abconcerts.be/ more http://paulraven-rip.blogspot.com/2008/08/killing-joke-world-tour-2008.html 2008/8/21, Arvid Mork : > > > > Hi, everyon ! :> > > Anyone know if there are still tickets for Berlin, Paris and Brussels !? > > Anyone have links to tickets and hotels in these places ? > > Thanks > > Arvid (Norway) > > ------------------------------ > F? Hotmail du ogs?. Windows Live Hotmail med 5000 MB gratis lagringsplass. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Hopefully see you somewhere along the lineLaughingChris Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:54:22 +0900From: vaio719 at livedoor.comTo: gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] KJ ticketBerlin: http://www.columbiaclub.de/Paris: http://www.trabendo.fr/Brussels: http://www.abconcerts.be/morehttp://paulraven-rip.blogspot.com/2008/08/killing-joke-world-tour-2008.html 2008/8/21, Arvid Mork : Hi, everyon ! :>Anyone know if there are still tickets for Berlin, Paris and Brussels !?Anyone have links to tickets and hotels in these places ?ThanksArvid (Norway) F? Hotmail du ogs?. Windows Live Hotmail med 5000 MB gratis lagringsplass. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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At 05:50 PM 8/19/2008, sade1 wrote: >And they have a jew guy making whiteface with >white paste and a straw wig for straw hair: who can I sue? >... ... ... ... ... ... > >[looking at the current state of things] > >'Save me... > save me from Tomorrow.. > I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...!' > > >--- On Mon, 8/18/08, cliffmonka at alaska.net wrote: >From: cliffmonka at alaska.net >Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder >To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" >Date: Monday, August 18, 2008, 2:36 AM > > >not to forget they have a white guy in black face,racist film aswell.they > >consulted > >the NAACP but none of the agencies serving people who experience disabilities. > >Go figure,why would they care if they make fun of a defenseless group,utter > >cowards > >these hollywood people are.Completly Fked off,Cliff > > > > > Isn't the film also about the ludicrous behaviour of a group of self > > > obsessed actors? surely their dismissal and mockery of any group is down > >to > > > the fact that they are in fact a load of complete wankers only able to > >think > > > about themselves? > > > > > > I don't plan on seing the film, but I know the general premise is that > >they > > > are arseholes who get taught a lesson and re-evaluate themselves. Their > >use > > > of the "retard" word just goes to show how out of touch they > >are. > > > > > > Oh and protesting about it will certainly do one thing - gve it more > > > publicity. And not get the studio to take it off release. > > > > > > > > > 2008/8/18 > > > > > >> Hiya ok here's a tv news story and daily news article from the > >protest > > >> boycotting > > >> the film Tropic Thunder we did on saturday,Peace,Cliff > > >> > > >> http://www.ktuu.com/Global/story.asp?S=8853261 > > >> > > >> http://www.adn.com/arts/story/496381.html > > >> > > >> > > >> > http://www.adn.com/arts/story/496381.html > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >> Terrific article by Tim Shriver... > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> *What 'Tropic Thunder' Thinks Is Funny* > > >> >> By Timothy Shriver > > >> >> Monday, August 11, 2008; A15 > > >> >> > > >> >> I've been told = to keep my sense of humor about the film > >"Tropic > > >> Thunder," > > >> >> which opens = this week. Despite my requests, I have not been > >given the > > >> chance > > >> >> to see = the movie. But I've seen previews, read about it > >and read > > >> excerpts = of > > >> >> the script. By all accounts, it is an unchecked assault on > >the = > > >> humanity of > > >> >> people with intellectual disabilities -- an affront to = > >dignity, hope > > >> and > > >> >> respect. > > >> >> > > >> >> Consider this exchange: > > >> >> > > >> >> Ben = Stiller's character: "There were times when I > >was doing Jack when > > >> = I > > >> >> actually felt retarded. Like really retarded." > > >> >> > > >> >> Robert Downey = Jr.'s character: "Oh yeah. > >Damn." > > >> >> > > >> >> Stiller: "In a weird way, I had = to sort of just free > >myself up to > > >> believe > > >> >> that it was okay to be stupid = or dumb." > > >> >> > > >> >> Downey: "To be a moron." > > >> >> > > >> >> Stiller: "Yeah." > > >> >> > > >> >> At= another point, about acting like a person with > >intellectual > > >> disabilities,<= > > >> >> BR>they say: > > >> >> > > >> >> Stiller: "It's what we do, right?" > > >> >> > > >> >> Downey: = "Everybody knows you never do a full > >retard." > > >> >> > > >> >> Stiller: "What do you = mean?" > > >> >> > > >> >> Downey: "Check it out. Dustin Hoffman, 'Rain > >Man,' look = retarded, act > > >> >> retarded, not retarded. Count toothpicks to your cards. = > >Autistic, > > >> sure. Not > > >> >> retarded. You know Tom Hanks, 'Forrest Gump.' Slow, = > >yes. Retarded, > > >> maybe. > > >> >> Braces on his legs. But he charmed the pants off = Nixon and > >won a > > >> ping-pong > > >> >> competition. That ain't retarded. You went = full retard, > >man. Never go > > >> full > > >> >> retard." > > >> >> > > >> >> I worked with the = Farrelly brothers on a film on this > >topic. I know > > >> about > > >> >> edgy comedy. = I'm also told that movies are > >equal-opportunity > > >> offenders. > > >> >> > > >> >> So = here's an equal-opportunity response to the > >equal-opportunity > > >> offenders: > > >> >> People with intellectual disabilities are routinely abused, > >neglected,= > > >> >> insulted, institutionalized and even killed around the world. > >Their = > > >> parents > > >> >> are told to give up, that their children are worthless. > >Schools = turn > > >> them > > >> >> away. Doctors refuse to treat them. Employers won't hire > >= them. None of > > >> this > > >> >> is funny. > > >> >> > > >> >> For centuries, they have been the = exception to the most > >basic > > >> spiritual > > >> >> principle: that we are each equal = in spirit, capable of > >reflecting the > > >> >> goodness of the divine, carriers = of love. But not people > >with > > >> intellectual > > >> >> disabilities. What's a word = commonly applied to them? > >Hopeless. > > >> >> > > >> >> Let's consider where we are in = 2008. Our politics are > >about overcoming > > >> >> division, our social movements = are about ending > >intolerance, our great > > >> >> philanthropists promote ending = poverty and disease among > >the world's > > >> poor. > > >> >> Are people with intellectual= disabilities included in the > >mainstream of > > >> >> these movements? For the = most part, no. > > >> >> > > >> >> Why? Because they're different. Their joy doesn't = > >fit on magazine > > >> covers. > > >> >> Their spirituality doesn't come in self-help = > >television. Their kind of > > >> >> wealth doesn't command political attention. = (The best > >of the spirit > > >> never > > >> >> does.) > > >> >> > > >> >> Sadly, they're such an easy = target that many people > >don't realize whom > > >> they > > >> >> are making fun of when = they use the word > >"retard." Most people just > > >> think > > >> >> it's funny. "Stupid, = idiot, moron, retard." > >Ha, ha, ha. > > >> >> > > >> >> I know: I could be too sensitive.= But I was taught that mean > >isn't > > >> funny. > > >> >> And I've been to institutions = where people with > >intellectual > > >> disabilities > > >> >> are tied to beds or lie on = concrete floors, forgotten. > >I've heard > > >> doctors > > >> >> say they won't treat = them. I know Gallup found that > >more than 60 > > >> percent of > > >> >> Americans don't = want a person with an intellectual > >disability at their > > >> >> child's = school. > > >> >> > > >> >> I've talked to people with intellectual disabilities who > >= cry over > > >> being > > >> >> insulted on a bus. I've received too many e-mails from = > >people who are > > >> >> devastated not by their child's disability but by the = > >terror of being > > >> >> laughed at, excluded and economically devastated. > > >> >> It wasn't funny when Hollywood humiliated African > >Americans for a > > >> >> gener= ation. It's never funny when good and decent human > >beings are > > >> >> humiliated= . In fact, it is dangerous and disgusting. > > >> >> > > >> >> This film is all that = and more. DreamWorks went so far as > >to create a > > >> >> mini-version of Simple = Jack and posted it online. The > >studio has since > > >> >> pulled it down, = realizing it had gone too far, even in an > >age of edgy, > > >> >> R-rated = comedies. > > >> >> > > >> >> So, enough. Stop the hurtful jokes. Talk to your children = > >about > > >> language > > >> >> that is bullying and mean. Ask your friends, your = > >educators, your > > >> religious > > >> >> leaders to help us to end the stubborn myth = that people > >with > > >> intellectual > > >> >> disabilities are hopeless. Ask Hollywood = to get on the > >right side of > > >> >> dignity. > > >> >> > > >> >> I hope others will join me = in shutting this movie out of > >our lives and > > >> our > > >> >> pocketbooks. We don't = live in times when labeling and > >humiliating > > >> others is > > >> >> funny. And we = should send that message far and wide. > > >> >> > > >> >> *The writer is chairman of = Special Olympics and a columnist > >for > > >> >> washingtonpost.com's On Faith = discussion site.* > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >>> It's received mostly good reviews: > > >> >>> > > >> >>> http://www.metacritic.com/film/titles/tropicthunder > > >> >>> > > >> >>> That's a great website, btw. > > >> >>> > > >> >>> -Oliver > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> folk devil wrote: > > >> >>>> not sure i really want to....too many 'war' > >films...and a haha to bang > > >> >>>> bang doesn't really work for me at the mo.. > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> /"/ > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > > >> > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >> >>>> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:42:20 -0700 > > >> >>>> From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com > > >> >>>> To: gathering at misera.net > > >> >>>> Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> Anyone seen the movie yet? > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> ... ... ... ... ... ... > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> /*[looking at the current state of things]*/ > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> 'Save me... > > >> >>>> save me from Tomorrow.. > > >> >>>> I don't want to /sail //in this Ship Of > >Fools...!' / > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > > >> > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >> >>>> Your PC, mobile phone, and online services work > >together like never > > >> >>>> before. See how Windows(R) fits your life > > >> >>>> > > > > >> >>>> > > >> > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> _______________________________________________ > > >> >>>> Gathering mailing list > > >> >>>> Gathering at misera.net > > >> >>>> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > >> >>>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> _______________________________________________ > > >> >>> Gathering mailing list > > >> >>> Gathering at misera.net > > >> >>> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > >> >>> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> _______________________________________________ > > >> >> Gathering mailing list > > >> >> Gathering at misera.net > > >> >> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > >> >> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > _______________________________________________ > > >> > Gathering mailing list > > >> > Gathering at misera.net > > >> > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Gathering mailing list > > >> Gathering at misera.net > > >> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Gathering mailing list > > > Gathering at misera.net > > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Gathering mailing list > >Gathering at misera.net > >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering at misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering Competition is a barbaric, insensitive ritual that reeks of social Darwinism. 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Regards, Antoni Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com Thu Aug 21 12:19:46 2008 From: folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com (folk devil) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 09:19:46 -0700 Subject: [kj] Tailspinning Sun Stations In-Reply-To: References: <653432.27418.qm@web23201.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I don't think it exists. Maybe it was a 'working' title?" From: folkdevil_23 at hotmail.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 09:01:33 -0700Subject: Re: [kj] Tailspinning Sun Stations Supposedly not released, but I am going to check soulseek later..http://www.killingjoke.org.uk/unreleased.html> Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 13:51:19 +0000> From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: [kj] Tailspinning Sun Stations> > > Could anyone out there on the other side of the planet or just across the river answer this question:> > Does the track "Tailspin" which was originally going to close the 2003 album exist?> > If so does anyone have an MP3 of it they could email to me here?> See what people are saying about Windows Live. Check out featured posts. Check It Out! _________________________________________________________________ Be the filmmaker you always wanted to be?learn how to burn a DVD with Windows?. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/108588797/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karen.weil at sddt.com Thu Aug 21 12:55:06 2008 From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 09:55:06 -0700 Subject: [kj] OT Boycott .the film Tropic Thunder References: <48AC0C2D.3010100@21ca.com> <4853.124.170.218.248.1219311947.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz> Message-ID: Oh, darn: I thought it was his scene from "Tropic Thunder"! k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brendan" To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 2:45 AM Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott .the film Tropic Thunder > Tom Cruises's best since Magnolias (which I actually enjoyed) is > undoubledly this: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFBZ_uAbxS0 > >> Saw Tropic Thunder last night. >> >> Laughed my ass off. >> >> Anybody who thinks it's offensive to the mentally challenged obviously >> hasn't seen the movie. It's very clearly not. >> >> Well worth seeing for a great ensemble of comic performances, including >> Tom Cruise's best acting since Magnolia. I didn't even recognize him >> until the last scene! >> >> best, >> FBC >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gathering mailing list >> Gathering at misera.net >> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From karen.weil at sddt.com Thu Aug 21 12:55:32 2008 From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 09:55:32 -0700 Subject: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos References: <125379.32261.qm@web52612.mail.re2.yahoo.com><862AC29E5B984159893434D8D6412365@edweil> <4939.124.170.218.248.1219313061.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz> Message-ID: <5F58FE62E89240FD9EC718C1476A69D9@edweil> Hah! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brendan" To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 3:04 AM Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos Sorry can't resist...there's only one Dude: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Stbuu9RFQ84 > > What don't you believe, that American voters currently only have the > choice of either Business as usual A, or Business as usual B, and that the > way the system is designed would only lead to a Business as usual C? > What's with the dude, dudette? > " > > > > From: karen.weil at sddt.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 > 10:26:56 -0700Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos > > > > Call me hopelessly naive, but I refuse to believe that. Every once and > while, American voters do wake up and do the right thing. It doesn't > happen enough, of course, but those few times give me a reason to hope. > And that's my 2 cents for the day. Have a good one, dude. > > k.w. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: folk devil > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) > Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 5:11 PM > Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos > 200 years isn't long enough? ;)They'd probably only end up being a > corporate puppet, anyway..." > > From: karen.weil at sddt.comTo: saulomar1 at yahoo.com; > gathering at misera.netDate: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:09:48 -0700Subject: Re: [kj] > [OT] Speaking of paedos > Amen on that one, fellow citizen. > > Unfortunately, Americans will eventually wake up to that (I hope they do, > before it's too late ...) > > k.w. > > > See what people are saying about Windows Live. Check out featured posts. > Check It Out! > > > > _______________________________________________Gathering mailing > listGathering at misera.nethttp://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > _________________________________________________________________ > Get thousands of games on your PC, your mobile phone, and the web with > Windows?. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/108588800/direct/01/_______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From antoni at clara.net Thu Aug 21 15:07:28 2008 From: antoni at clara.net (pssyche23) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 20:07:28 +0100 Subject: [kj] thoughts on upcoming KJ album..if it happens References: <290275.40734.qm@web25002.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00ea01c903c1$27f61560$0201a8c0@PSSYCHE23> thanks Graham ... I'll keep that in mind for future rips ... I've got hold of the MP3's now ... cheers folks. ----- Original Message ----- From: "mister woody" To: Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 5:05 PM Subject: Re: [kj] thoughts on upcoming KJ album..if it happens > hi Antoni > > you can grab them with mp3mymp3 ( free from download.com ) and record them > while they play, save as mp3 or WAV and job's a flier > > pssyche23 wrote: > > Has anyone managed to create MP3's of Geordie's demo > tracks 7 to 12 from the MySpace site ? I would be keen in dumping all 12 > tracks > to a CD ... Regards, Antoni > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.6/1625 - Release Date: 21/08/2008 > 06:04 > > > From judithmuehlenbeck at freenet.de Thu Aug 21 15:20:51 2008 From: judithmuehlenbeck at freenet.de (judithmuehlenbeck at freenet.de) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:20:51 +0200 Subject: [kj] KJ ticket Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- Hello Arvid, I've got one combi-ticket left now for the two evenings in Berlin, since I've just learned that my colleague at work cannot come with me... so I have to go alone now :-/ but KJ are worth it, of course. Anyway, if you are interested the original price was ? 36,-. Regards Judith / Southern Germany ----- original Nachricht -------- Betreff: Re: [kj] KJ ticket Gesendet: Do 21 Aug 2008 14:54:43 CEST Von: "vaio719" Berlin: http://www.columbiaclub.de/ Paris: http://www.trabendo.fr/ Brussels: http://www.abconcerts.be/ more http://paulraven-rip.blogspot.com/2008/08/killing-joke-world-tour-2008.html 2008/8/21, Arvid Mork : Hi, everyon ! :> Anyone know if there are still tickets for Berlin, Paris and Brussels !? Anyone have links to tickets and hotels in these places ? Thanks Arvid (Norway) F? Hotmail du ogs?. Windows Live Hotmail med 5000 MB gratis lagringsplass. --- original Nachricht Ende ---- Gesendet von freenetMail- Mehr als nur eine E-Mail-Adresse http://email.freenet.de/dienste/emailoffice/produktuebersicht/basic/mail/index.html?pid=6828 From jagargal at lycos.com Thu Aug 21 19:45:15 2008 From: jagargal at lycos.com (Javier Garcia) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 19:45:15 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [kj] KJ ticket Message-ID: <20080821194515.HM.0000000000007ng@jagargal.bos-mail-wwl12.lycos.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Fri Aug 22 00:49:32 2008 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 16:49:32 +1200 (NZST) Subject: [kj] thoughts on upcoming KJ album..if it happens In-Reply-To: <00ea01c903c1$27f61560$0201a8c0@PSSYCHE23> References: <290275.40734.qm@web25002.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <00ea01c903c1$27f61560$0201a8c0@PSSYCHE23> Message-ID: <1480.124.170.218.248.1219380572.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz> I think you can sometimes grab played media files from your Temporary Internet files on Windows PCs... > thanks Graham ... I'll keep that in mind for future rips ... I've got hold > of the MP3's now ... cheers folks. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "mister woody" > To: > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 5:05 PM > Subject: Re: [kj] thoughts on upcoming KJ album..if it happens > > >> hi Antoni >> >> you can grab them with mp3mymp3 ( free from download.com ) and record >> them >> while they play, save as mp3 or WAV and job's a flier >> >> pssyche23 wrote: >> >> Has anyone managed to create MP3's of Geordie's demo >> tracks 7 to 12 from the MySpace site ? I would be keen in dumping all 12 >> tracks >> to a CD ... Regards, Antoni >> >> Send instant messages to your online friends >> http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Gathering mailing list >> Gathering at misera.net >> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.6/1625 - Release Date: >> 21/08/2008 >> 06:04 >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Fri Aug 22 01:31:28 2008 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 17:31:28 +1200 (NZST) Subject: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos - warcorps In-Reply-To: <48AC87EF.7010600@sbcglobal.net> References: <507047.70322.qm@web52607.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <48AC87EF.7010600@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <2070.124.170.218.248.1219383088.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz> Sweet, looks like it's all up on Youtube, now where's the popcorn... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rfetdjjb3YY > That's Eisenhower's famous "military industrial complex" speech. > > The speech is the basis for the documentary "Why We Fight," which > explores the theme you mention. I think it came out 2003 or 2004. Good > stuff! > > -Oliver > > > folk devil wrote: >> Just got thrown this, by a colleague.. >> >> "In his farewell address to the nation, President Eisenhower warned of >> the great danger of the military-industrial complex, the seamless >> relationship between the government and the private corporations it >> contracts: the confluence of business and politics. Many point to this >> speech as prophetic of what is occurring within America today. We've >> all heard the stories about the current administration's curious >> business ties, from Halliburton to the Carlyle Group, but there's a >> much larger constituency benefiting from America's recent political >> motivations -- one that, until recently, was virtually unknown." >> >> http://www.1up.com/do/feature?cId=3160705 >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From bawhitehead at gmail.com Fri Aug 22 03:24:41 2008 From: bawhitehead at gmail.com (Brian Whitehead) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 08:24:41 +0100 Subject: [kj] thoughts on upcoming KJ album..if it happens In-Reply-To: <1480.124.170.218.248.1219380572.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz> References: <290275.40734.qm@web25002.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <00ea01c903c1$27f61560$0201a8c0@PSSYCHE23> <1480.124.170.218.248.1219380572.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz> Message-ID: <7454a99b0808220024s6c4422c7xa6b408029f3bad23@mail.gmail.com> As soon as you play them they do indeed (or did) go to the Temporary Internet Files folder. I'll send them to anybody who wants them. Brian. 2008/8/22 Brendan > I think you can sometimes grab played media files from your Temporary > Internet files on Windows PCs... > > > thanks Graham ... I'll keep that in mind for future rips ... I've got > hold > > of the MP3's now ... cheers folks. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "mister woody" > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 5:05 PM > > Subject: Re: [kj] thoughts on upcoming KJ album..if it happens > > > > > >> hi Antoni > >> > >> you can grab them with mp3mymp3 ( free from download.com ) and record > >> them > >> while they play, save as mp3 or WAV and job's a flier > >> > >> pssyche23 wrote: > >> > >> Has anyone managed to create MP3's of Geordie's demo > >> tracks 7 to 12 from the MySpace site ? I would be keen in dumping all 12 > >> tracks > >> to a CD ... 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For more information on Butthole Surfers, visit http://www.buttholesurfers.com/ And for information on The Paul Green School Of Rock, visit www.schoolofrock.com TRACKLISTING: 22 Going on 23 Fast Song Suicide Moving To Florida/100 Million Some Dispute Over T-Shirt Sales Goofy's Concern To Parter/Tornadoes 1401 Graveyard Dust Devil Ulcer Breakout Rocky Cowboy Bob Cherub Sweat Loaf I Saw an X-Ray of a Girl Passing Gas Gary Floyd Jimi/Cartoon Happy Birthday (Mariella & Gianni) The Shah Sleeps In Lee Harvey's Grave Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From vaio719 at livedoor.com Fri Aug 22 08:43:27 2008 From: vaio719 at livedoor.com (vaio719) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 21:43:27 +0900 Subject: [kj] a new day dub mix + dub Message-ID: <91476d3f0808220543w7335039ewa11f7bdf82b863b1@mail.gmail.com> dub mix + dub http://www.mediafire.com/?4chya7mz8wy GJ EMI -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk Fri Aug 22 08:48:47 2008 From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk (Change) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 12:48:47 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] A Salt by Retard Romain In-Reply-To: <0K5Y00J6EEGBS2L0@mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> Message-ID: <547097.87786.qm@web23206.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Just been punched in the face by a retard called Roamn P who lives in the flat below mine, although not legally. As luck would have a man pulled up in a car and he turned out to be a solicitor. This is the thrid time this fool has assaulted me. I guess this time he ought to be going down, but the police seem to be law unto themselves... So my photos for my new passport I have to go take now are going to look embattled! Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From pmdavies at gmail.com Fri Aug 22 08:54:25 2008 From: pmdavies at gmail.com (iPat) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 13:54:25 +0100 Subject: [kj] A Salt by Retard Romain In-Reply-To: <547097.87786.qm@web23206.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <0K5Y00J6EEGBS2L0@mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> <547097.87786.qm@web23206.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1646350c0808220554w8fbf85cn983fba9e23581dc3@mail.gmail.com> what in your behaviour provokes a response from this person? On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 1:48 PM, Change wrote: > Just been punched in the face by a retard called Roamn P who lives in the flat below mine, although not legally. > > As luck would have a man pulled up in a car and he turned out to be a solicitor. This is the thrid time this fool has assaulted me. I guess this time he ought to be going down, but the police seem to be law unto themselves... > > So my photos for my new passport I have to go take now are going to look embattled! From crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk Fri Aug 22 09:07:04 2008 From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk (Change) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 13:07:04 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] A Salt by Retard Romain In-Reply-To: <1646350c0808220554w8fbf85cn983fba9e23581dc3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <413600.6837.qm@web23206.mail.ird.yahoo.com> I n this case he believed I was looking at him, although he is repulsive and I had dark glasses on and he wouldn't have been able to see my eyes. It is also well known that I like to listen to Killing Joke very loud! --- On Fri, 22/8/08, iPat wrote: > From: iPat > Subject: Re: [kj] A Salt by Retard Romain > To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" > Date: Friday, 22 August, 2008, 1:54 PM > what in your behaviour provokes a response from this person? > > On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 1:48 PM, Change > wrote: > > Just been punched in the face by a retard called Roamn > P who lives in the flat below mine, although not legally. > > > > As luck would have a man pulled up in a car and he > turned out to be a solicitor. This is the thrid time this > fool has assaulted me. I guess this time he ought to be > going down, but the police seem to be law unto themselves... > > > > So my photos for my new passport I have to go take now > are going to look embattled! > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From pmdavies at gmail.com Fri Aug 22 09:43:18 2008 From: pmdavies at gmail.com (iPat) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 14:43:18 +0100 Subject: [kj] A Salt by Retard Romain In-Reply-To: <413600.6837.qm@web23206.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <1646350c0808220554w8fbf85cn983fba9e23581dc3@mail.gmail.com> <413600.6837.qm@web23206.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1646350c0808220643g3a03bbb3o2e590dd833c6fc9d@mail.gmail.com> i can 'look' in many different ways. I can look forlornly, adoringly, menacely, in hope, in vain, lost, agressive. I had a look for Antoni on Sunday - little good it did me ! lol you behave in a manner that obviously elicited a reaction. i think it worked! On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 2:07 PM, Change wrote: > I n this case he believed I was looking at him, although he is repulsive and I had dark glasses on and he wouldn't have been able to see my eyes. > > It is also well known that I like to listen to Killing Joke very loud! > > --- On Fri, 22/8/08, iPat wrote: > >> From: iPat >> Subject: Re: [kj] A Salt by Retard Romain >> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" >> Date: Friday, 22 August, 2008, 1:54 PM >> what in your behaviour provokes a response from this person? -- iPat From folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com Fri Aug 22 11:24:20 2008 From: folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com (folk devil) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 08:24:20 -0700 Subject: [kj] A Salt by Retard Romain In-Reply-To: <413600.6837.qm@web23206.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <1646350c0808220554w8fbf85cn983fba9e23581dc3@mail.gmail.com> <413600.6837.qm@web23206.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: it wasn't that guy from the 'upstairs' flat, in Acid House, was it? does he use your lecky, too?> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 13:07:04 +0000> From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re: [kj] A Salt by Retard Romain> > I n this case he believed I was looking at him, although he is repulsive and I had dark glasses on and he wouldn't have been able to see my eyes.> > It is also well known that I like to listen to Killing Joke very loud!> > --- On Fri, 22/8/08, iPat wrote:> > > From: iPat > > Subject: Re: [kj] A Salt by Retard Romain> > To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" > > Date: Friday, 22 August, 2008, 1:54 PM> > what in your behaviour provokes a response from this person?> > > > On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 1:48 PM, Change> > wrote:> > > Just been punched in the face by a retard called Roamn> > P who lives in the flat below mine, although not legally.> > >> > > As luck would have a man pulled up in a car and he> > turned out to be a solicitor. This is the thrid time this> > fool has assaulted me. I guess this time he ought to be> > going down, but the police seem to be law unto themselves...> > >> > > So my photos for my new passport I have to go take now> > are going to look embattled!> > _______________________________________________> > Gathering mailing list> > Gathering at misera.net> > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering> > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________________ See what people are saying about Windows Live. Check out featured posts. http://www.windowslive.com/connect?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_connect2_082008 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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At 08:24 22/08/2008 -0700, you wrote: >it wasn't that guy from the 'upstairs' flat, in Acid House, was it? >does he use your lecky, too? > > > > > Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 13:07:04 +0000 > > From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk > > To: gathering at misera.net > > Subject: Re: [kj] A Salt by Retard Romain > > > > I n this case he believed I was looking at him, although he is > repulsive and I had dark glasses on and he wouldn't have been able to see > my eyes. > > > > It is also well known that I like to listen to Killing Joke very loud! > > > > --- On Fri, 22/8/08, iPat wrote: > > > > > From: iPat > > > Subject: Re: [kj] A Salt by Retard Romain > > > To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" > > > > Date: Friday, 22 August, 2008, 1:54 PM > > > what in your behaviour provokes a response from this person? > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 1:48 PM, Change > > > wrote: > > > > Just been punched in the face by a retard called Roamn > > > P who lives in the flat below mine, although not legally. > > > > > > > > As luck would have a man pulled up in a car and he > > > turned out to be a solicitor. This is the thrid time this > > > fool has assaulted me. I guess this time he ought to be > > > going down, but the police seem to be law unto themselves... > > > > > > > > So my photos for my new passport I have to go take now > > > are going to look embattled! > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Gathering mailing list > > > Gathering at misera.net > > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > > Gathering mailing list > > Gathering at misera.net > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > >---------- >See what people are saying about Windows Live. Check out featured posts. >Check It Out! >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering at misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com Fri Aug 22 11:33:24 2008 From: folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com (folk devil) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 08:33:24 -0700 Subject: [kj] A Salt by Retard Romain In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.2.20080822162524.01fb0f68@pop3.easynet.co.uk> References: <413600.6837.qm@web23206.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <1646350c0808220554w8fbf85cn983fba9e23581dc3@mail.gmail.com> <413600.6837.qm@web23206.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <5.1.1.6.2.20080822162524.01fb0f68@pop3.easynet.co.uk> Message-ID: Yes, that guy! lol! > Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 16:26:10 +0100> To: gathering at misera.net> From: gingoblin at easynet.co.uk> Subject: Re: [kj] A Salt by Retard Romain> > What, the ex-bassist of the Exploited? That wasn't acting y'know.> > > > > At 08:24 22/08/2008 -0700, you wrote:> >it wasn't that guy from the 'upstairs' flat, in Acid House, was it?> >does he use your lecky, too?> >> >> >> > > Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 13:07:04 +0000> > > From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk> > > To: gathering at misera.net> > > Subject: Re: [kj] A Salt by Retard Romain> > >> > > I n this case he believed I was looking at him, although he is > > repulsive and I had dark glasses on and he wouldn't have been able to see > > my eyes.> > >> > > It is also well known that I like to listen to Killing Joke very loud!> > >> > > --- On Fri, 22/8/08, iPat wrote:> > >> > > > From: iPat > > > > Subject: Re: [kj] A Salt by Retard Romain> > > > To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" > > > > > > Date: Friday, 22 August, 2008, 1:54 PM> > > > what in your behaviour provokes a response from this person?> > > >> > > > On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 1:48 PM, Change> > > > wrote:> > > > > Just been punched in the face by a retard called Roamn> > > > P who lives in the flat below mine, although not legally.> > > > >> > > > > As luck would have a man pulled up in a car and he> > > > turned out to be a solicitor. This is the thrid time this> > > > fool has assaulted me. I guess this time he ought to be> > > > going down, but the police seem to be law unto themselves...> > > > >> > > > > So my photos for my new passport I have to go take now> > > > are going to look embattled!> > > > _______________________________________________> > > > Gathering mailing list> > > > Gathering at misera.net> > > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering> > >> > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com> > > _______________________________________________> > > Gathering mailing list> > > Gathering at misera.net> > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering> >> >> >> >----------> >See what people are saying about Windows Live. Check out featured posts. > >Check It Out!> >_______________________________________________> >Gathering mailing list> >Gathering at misera.net> >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering> > > > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________________ Get thousands of games on your PC, your mobile phone, and the web with Windows?. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/108588800/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From woody2shooz at gmail.com Fri Aug 22 11:47:08 2008 From: woody2shooz at gmail.com (woody2shooz) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 16:47:08 +0100 Subject: [kj] test Message-ID: <48AEDF7C.70406@gmail.com> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com Fri Aug 22 11:59:03 2008 From: folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com (folk devil) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 08:59:03 -0700 Subject: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos - warcorps In-Reply-To: <2070.124.170.218.248.1219383088.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz> References: <507047.70322.qm@web52607.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <48AC87EF.7010600@sbcglobal.net> <2070.124.170.218.248.1219383088.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz> Message-ID: cheers, Brendan. you found the nugget ;) "> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 17:31:28 +1200> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos - warcorps> > Sweet, looks like it's all up on Youtube, now where's the popcorn...> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rfetdjjb3YY> > > _________________________________________________________________ Get ideas on sharing photos from people like you. 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Elana Mojica wrote: > did i pass? > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: woody2shooz > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) > > Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 10:47:08 AM > Subject: [kj] test > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk Fri Aug 22 12:14:26 2008 From: Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk (Phillipps Marc) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 17:14:26 +0100 Subject: [kj] test References: <48AEDF7C.70406@gmail.com> Message-ID: I'm sorry . . it is positive ________________________________ From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of woody2shooz Sent: 22 August 2008 16:47 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Subject: [kj] test This communication may contain information that is confidential and legally privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information within is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please return it to the sender, then delete and destroy any copies of it. 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" Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 17:14:26 +0100From: Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.ukTo: gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] test I?m sorry . . it is positive From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of woody2shoozSent: 22 August 2008 16:47To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)Subject: [kj] test This communication may contain information that is confidential and legally privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information within is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please return it to the sender, then delete and destroy any copies of it. The Health Informatics Service disclaims any liability for action taken reliant on the content of this message. This communication is from the Health Informatics Service serving Barnet Enfield & Haringey Health Communities. _________________________________________________________________ Talk to your Yahoo! Friends via Windows Live Messenger. Find out how. http://www.windowslive.com/explore/messenger?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_messenger_yahoo_082008 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net Fri Aug 22 12:38:42 2008 From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net (B. Oliver Sheppard) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 11:38:42 -0500 Subject: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos - warcorps In-Reply-To: References: <507047.70322.qm@web52607.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <48AC87EF.7010600@sbcglobal.net> <2070.124.170.218.248.1219383088.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz> Message-ID: <48AEEB92.5050508@sbcglobal.net> Of course, if you're familiar with Bit Torrents and sites like mininova.org, you can download the whole thing and burn it onto a DVD, which I may or MAY NOT have done.... But it is cool it is on YouTube in installments, too. If anyone is interested in some back story on the Georgia/South Ossetia/Caucausus region, there s a great 2003 documentary called _Power Trip_ one should watch. It is about American energy corporations moving in to Georgia to privatize the electricity and energy systems, and some of the best scenes are of folks with the American energy company explaining to the ex-Soviet citizens why they should pay individual electricity bills, which they hadn't done before. It was filmed before this new conflagration, obviously. The DVD has extras that go a bit into the Abkhazian ethnic wars of the 90s. -Oliver folk devil wrote: > cheers, Brendan. you found the nugget ;) > > > /"/ > > > Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 17:31:28 +1200 > > From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz > > To: gathering at misera.net > > Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos - warcorps > > > > Sweet, looks like it's all up on Youtube, now where's the popcorn... > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rfetdjjb3YY From folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com Fri Aug 22 13:02:27 2008 From: folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com (folk devil) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 10:02:27 -0700 Subject: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos - warcorps In-Reply-To: <48AEEB92.5050508@sbcglobal.net> References: <507047.70322.qm@web52607.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <48AC87EF.7010600@sbcglobal.net> <2070.124.170.218.248.1219383088.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz> <48AEEB92.5050508@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Cheers, Oliver. Found the trailer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPGKgo7WkVQ "talk about alternative fuels...not something that's going to be completely exhausted in 10 years."> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 11:38:42 -0500> From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos - warcorps> > Of course, if you're familiar with Bit Torrents and sites like > mininova.org, you can download the whole thing and burn it onto a DVD, > which I may or MAY NOT have done.... But it is cool it is on YouTube in > installments, too.> > If anyone is interested in some back story on the Georgia/South > Ossetia/Caucausus region, there s a great 2003 documentary called _Power > Trip_ one should watch. It is about American energy corporations moving > in to Georgia to privatize the electricity and energy systems, and some > of the best scenes are of folks with the American energy company > explaining to the ex-Soviet citizens why they should pay individual > electricity bills, which they hadn't done before. It was filmed before > this new conflagration, obviously. The DVD has extras that go a bit into > the Abkhazian ethnic wars of the 90s.> > -Oliver> > > folk devil wrote:> > cheers, Brendan. you found the nugget ;)> >> >> > /"/> >> > > Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 17:31:28 +1200> > > From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz> > > To: gathering at misera.net> > > Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Speaking of paedos - warcorps> > >> > > Sweet, looks like it's all up on Youtube, now where's the popcorn...> > >> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rfetdjjb3YY> > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________________ Talk to your Yahoo! Friends via Windows Live Messenger. Find out how. http://www.windowslive.com/explore/messenger?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_messenger_yahoo_082008 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 08:56:13 -0700 From: elana_mojica at yahoo.com To: gathering at misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] test #yiv1865222979 .ExternalClass DIV {} did i pass? ----- Original Message ---- From: woody2shooz To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 10:47:08 AM Subject: [kj] test -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karen.weil at sddt.com Fri Aug 22 17:53:35 2008 From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 14:53:35 -0700 Subject: [kj] Come on then, lets see you . . . References: <408115.73594.qm@web27806.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Lovely avatar! k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: Alexandra Tolksdorf To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) 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Alex in NYC On Aug 19, 2008, at 1:13 PM, Karen Weil wrote: > Nice green eyes! > > k.w. > San Diego > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Javier Garcia > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 4:08 PM > Subject: Re: [kj] Face Your Manga - here i am > > Here's my manga: > > > > > http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/2496/yomangahm1.jpg > > Javier > mexico city > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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It might take a while... -----Original Message-----From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of paul clarksonSent: 22 August 2008 12:58To: gathering at misera.netSubject: [kj] 'new culture' help neededDoes anyone have tabs to 'new culture' from the Kid Jensen set?thanks Win ?3000 to spend on whatever you want at Uni! Click here to WIN! _________________________________________________________________ Get Hotmail on your mobile from Vodafone http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/107571435/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From antoni at clara.net Sun Aug 24 03:30:33 2008 From: antoni at clara.net (pssyche23) Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 08:30:33 +0100 Subject: [kj] OT : Maggie Thatcher demented (OFFICIAL) Message-ID: <000601c905bb$4b73e700$0201a8c0@PSSYCHE23> * http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7579352.stm * Since 2000 ? I would argue that she was pretty demented back in the early 80's ... 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In-Reply-To: <002501c905d1$08de7430$0201a8c0@PSSYCHE23> References: <002501c905d1$08de7430$0201a8c0@PSSYCHE23> Message-ID: <48B1605F.1020104@virgin.net> Complete with artwork by our favourite graphics geezer. pssyche23 wrote: > ... slightly ironic lyrics from Empire Song ... considering how long > it has taken the John Peel sessions to see the light of day ... > anyway, particularly pleased that they've included the Richard Skinner > session too and, as 1983 session was added to the Fire Dances > remaster, it makes this CD a concise "original line up" release. > > Due for release on the eve of the tour (8th Sept 2008) ... HMV selling > it for 8.99 GBP ... > http://hmv.com/hmvweb/displayProductDetails.do?ctx=280;-1;-1;-1&sku=854168 > > > Another irony is that the (rightly) vilified Terra Firma have actually > done all us lot a favour. These private equity ghouls appear to have > tapped into the KJ back catalogue and provided us some rare recordings > we thought we be left gathering dust in the EMI/Virgin/EG vaults for > an eternity. > > Regards, Antoni > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.7/1629 - Release Date: 23/08/2008 13:16 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paul.ar at virgin.net Sun Aug 24 09:23:39 2008 From: paul.ar at virgin.net (Paul Richards) Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 14:23:39 +0100 Subject: [kj] Reza talks about new tour In-Reply-To: References: <623000.20984.qm@web57313.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <48B160DB.8010803@virgin.net> Original line-up plus one then. Maybe Jaz's belly is so big he can't reach the keys ;-) Alexander Smith wrote: > Maybe you've seen this, but I just discovered it... > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9jc2SUsQLg > > Alex in NYC > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: > 270.6.7/1628 - Release Date: 22/08/2008 18:32 > > > From judithmuehlenbeck at freenet.de Sun Aug 24 17:47:28 2008 From: judithmuehlenbeck at freenet.de (judithmuehlenbeck at freenet.de) Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 23:47:28 +0200 Subject: [kj] KJ ticket Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- Hello Janvier, to refer to your mail concerning "lurker".. Well, I've got nothing to hide. To be honest,I just didn't dare to write to this list yet as my english is a bit rusty thesedays. I even had to look up what a lurker is to understand what you mean at all.. So let me introduce myself then: My name is Judith and I live in thesouth of Germany. I discovered the Joke only about half a year ago. Of course Iwish I did much earlier. I was quite shocked that I never heard of them before.Phillip Boa, singer of German indie band Phillip Boa and the Voodoo Club, mentionedthe song "Follow the leader" as one of his favourites. So I looked for KJ on youtube. First clips I saw were "Love Like Blood" and "Hosannas...." AsI love both 80ies as well as heavy music, I was smitten immediately and startedto search the internet for any information I could find about the band. I'm totally impressed about their notion, the bandwith of their music and Jaz's diverse musical career. I feel I've found something special, unfortunately very late.. First albums I got were Night Time and the self-titled from 1980, afterlistening to them I swore if I should ever get the chance to see them live, Iwould go. Seemed rather unlikely. The happier I was when I heardabout the tour. So I'm really looking forward to my first KJ gig. Other bands I'm into are System Of A Down, Phillip Boa & The VoodooClub, Marilyn Manson, Nine Inch Nails, The Prodigy, The Police, Sting, KateBush, Queen, Ladytron, Les Rita Mitsouko, David Bowie, Bauhaus, Aphex Twin.. to name a few. Cheers Judith -- -- -- Gesendet von freenetMail- Mehr als nur eine E-Mail-Adresse http://email.freenet.de/dienste/emailoffice/produktuebersicht/basic/mail/index.html?pid=6828 From matt_tibbits at hotmail.com Sun Aug 24 19:39:22 2008 From: matt_tibbits at hotmail.com (Matthew Tibbits) Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 23:39:22 +0000 Subject: [kj] Reza talks about new tour Message-ID: Jaz's belly is no more. He's lean, mean and raring to go. _________________________________________________________________ Win a voice over part with Kung Fu Panda & Live Search?? and?? 100?s of Kung Fu Panda prizes to win with Live Search http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/107571439/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From saulomar1 at yahoo.com Sun Aug 24 20:45:47 2008 From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com (sade1) Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 17:45:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [kj] Reza talks about new tour In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <48671.50591.qm@web52605.mail.re2.yahoo.com> > Jaz's belly is no more. He's lean, ? ?But.. that annuls the Pavarotti Principle of Sound Generation, Resonance, and Projection. Where else?can Jaz produce his trademark snarling and growling? ? ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current?state of things] 'Save me... ? save me?from Tomorrow.. ?? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...!'?? --- On Sun, 8/24/08, Matthew Tibbits wrote: From: Matthew Tibbits Subject: [kj] Reza talks about new tour To: gathering at misera.net Date: Sunday, August 24, 2008, 4:39 PM #yiv1026652639 .hmmessage P { margin:0px;padding:0px;} #yiv1026652639 { FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma;} Jaz's belly is no more. He's lean, mean and raring to go. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bq at soundgardener.co.nz Sun Aug 24 23:25:39 2008 From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:25:39 +1200 (NZST) Subject: [kj] Reza talks about new tour In-Reply-To: <48671.50591.qm@web52605.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <48671.50591.qm@web52605.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <61172.203.210.68.145.1219634739.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz> Jaz's voice has always been powerful and guttural, it's the channeling of the infernal...people who sing like him tend to lose a bit of control and range over time but often retain the power... PS: I tuned in to catch 10 seconds of Jimmy Page and Beckham (?!) at the closing ceremony of the Olympics last night, apparently he'd just finished an impromotu Whole Lotta Love as a teaser for London 2012...anyone catch that? I'll have to look it up... >> Jaz's belly is no more. He's lean, > ? > ?But.. that annuls the Pavarotti Principle of Sound Generation, Resonance, > and Projection. > Where else?can Jaz produce his trademark snarling and growling? > > ? > ... ... ... ... ... ... > > [looking at the current?state of things] > > 'Save me... > ? save me?from Tomorrow.. > ?? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...!'?? > > --- On Sun, 8/24/08, Matthew Tibbits wrote: > > From: Matthew Tibbits > Subject: [kj] Reza talks about new tour > To: gathering at misera.net > Date: Sunday, August 24, 2008, 4:39 PM > > > > > #yiv1026652639 .hmmessage P > { > margin:0px;padding:0px;} > #yiv1026652639 { > FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma;} > > Jaz's belly is no more. He's lean, mean and raring to go. > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk Mon Aug 25 00:45:30 2008 From: jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk (jo) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 05:45:30 +0100 Subject: [kj] Reza talks about new tour References: <48671.50591.qm@web52605.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <61172.203.210.68.145.1219634739.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz> Message-ID: <00d901c9066d$66bb6990$0200000a@jo> ..people who sing like him tend to lose a bit of control and range over time but often retain the power... :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Gadzooks! Wild incontinence. Watch out in the mosh pit:-)) From bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net Mon Aug 25 00:50:27 2008 From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net (B. Oliver Sheppard) Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 23:50:27 -0500 Subject: [kj] Reza talks about new tour In-Reply-To: References: <623000.20984.qm@web57313.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <48B23A13.4080709@sbcglobal.net> I wish there were subtitles.... But tstill thanks for this! Hope things are well in NYC, Alex -Oliver Alexander Smith wrote: > Maybe you've seen this, but I just discovered it... > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9jc2SUsQLg > > Alex in NYC > From kj_mork at hotmail.com Mon Aug 25 07:46:35 2008 From: kj_mork at hotmail.com (Arvid Mork) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 13:46:35 +0200 Subject: [kj] KJ - Berlin - Paris In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.2.20080822162524.01fb0f68@pop3.easynet.co.uk> References: <413600.6837.qm@web23206.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <1646350c0808220554w8fbf85cn983fba9e23581dc3@mail.gmail.com> <413600.6837.qm@web23206.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <5.1.1.6.2.20080822162524.01fb0f68@pop3.easynet.co.uk> Message-ID: Hi ! Anyone going to both Berlin and Paris !? How do you travel between the two places ? Plane or train ? Anyone got any links ? Also I have to ask if someone know when the concerts usually starts and ends in Europe on weekdays ? Take Care Arvid (Norway) I'm still looking for tickets to the London shows ! :/ Anyone ? Please ! :> _________________________________________________________________ Med MSN p? mobilen holder du deg oppdatert. http://info.mobile.no.msn.com/pc/default.aspx?ocid=30032 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Please ! :> > _________________________________________________________________ > Med MSN p? mobilen holder du deg oppdatert. > http://info.mobile.no.msn.com/pc/default.aspx?ocid=30032> _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com Mon Aug 25 11:31:30 2008 From: folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com (folk devil) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 08:31:30 -0700 Subject: [kj] Reza talks about new tour - Page In-Reply-To: <61172.203.210.68.145.1219634739.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz> References: <48671.50591.qm@web52605.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <61172.203.210.68.145.1219634739.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz> Message-ID: http://www.holymoly.co.uk/news/28/david-beckham-and-jimmy-page-in-olympic-closing-ceremony-3952.html this is what the world thinks is British, I guess :/> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:25:39 +1200> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re: [kj] Reza talks about new tour> > Jaz's voice has always been powerful and guttural, it's the channeling of> the infernal...people who sing like him tend to lose a bit of control and> range over time but often retain the power...> > PS: I tuned in to catch 10 seconds of Jimmy Page and Beckham (?!) at the> closing ceremony of the Olympics last night, apparently he'd just finished> an impromotu Whole Lotta Love as a teaser for London 2012...anyone catch> that? I'll have to look it up...> > >> Jaz's belly is no more. He's lean,> > > > But.. that annuls the Pavarotti Principle of Sound Generation, Resonance,> > and Projection.> > Where else can Jaz produce his trademark snarling and growling?> >> > > > ... ... ... ... ... ...> >> > [looking at the current state of things]> >> > 'Save me...> > save me from Tomorrow..> > I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...!' > >> > --- On Sun, 8/24/08, Matthew Tibbits wrote:> >> > From: Matthew Tibbits > > Subject: [kj] Reza talks about new tour> > To: gathering at misera.net> > Date: Sunday, August 24, 2008, 4:39 PM> >> >> >> >> > #yiv1026652639 .hmmessage P> > {> > margin:0px;padding:0px;}> > #yiv1026652639 {> > FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma;}> >> > Jaz's belly is no more. 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URL: From partyslammer at socal.rr.com Mon Aug 25 12:17:21 2008 From: partyslammer at socal.rr.com (TB) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 09:17:21 -0700 Subject: [kj] OT: Page at the Olympics In-Reply-To: <32827262.1219679480409.JavaMail.root@mswamui-blood.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <32827262.1219679480409.JavaMail.root@mswamui-blood.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <9BE495EA67AD46B5BA79201100DE7550@Bell2007PC> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Smith" To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" ; "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 8:51 AM Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Page at the Olympics Oh how the mighty have fallen. Why oh why did they play "Whole Lotta Love"? Not to sound like someone's grandmother, but what the fuck does that have to do with the Olympics? ++++++++ Heh, a guy on another list (who's British and very defensive when anyone mocks his anything to do with his country) gave a reply to the same question to which I replied............ "Andy Hodgkinson" wrote: > Dude - this was part of the London 2012 handover and I guess they > wanted it to be a little contemporary - at least they used a decent > song and didn't roll out Macca or Elton John as usual. ++++ I didn't catch the whole thing as I mentioned in my earlier post about this performance, but after seeing the whole clip, this is even more ridiculous and embarrassing than the short snippet I caught yesterday. And Page is clearly miming - maybe the bimbo is singing live but that's about it. At one point, it looks like she's coming on to her grandfather when she steps outta that silly goldmember costume. And that over-rated soccer goof Beckham (yeah, he's turned out to be a worthy investment for USA soccer - NOT!) punting a ball onto someone's head on the field is just the icing on the cake. "Contemporary" would have been getting a band who's released a record in the past 5 years to perform a song that had something to do with sports or at least achieving dreams and goals instead of a octogenarian who's band hasn't been around for over 35 years miming a song on guitar about fucking to a tart a third of his age. T.B. From folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com Mon Aug 25 12:18:15 2008 From: folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com (folk devil) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 09:18:15 -0700 Subject: [kj] OT: Page at the Olympics In-Reply-To: <32827262.1219679480409.JavaMail.root@mswamui-blood.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <32827262.1219679480409.JavaMail.root@mswamui-blood.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: i think you're raisiing the same question as every other poor bugger watching. It's the way they all popped out from a London bus, too...oh this was cheesetastic! " Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 11:51:19 -0400From: vassifer at earthlink.netTo: gathering at misera.net; gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] OT: Page at the Olympics Oh how the mighty have fallen. Why oh why did they play "Whole Lotta Love"? Not to sound like someone's grandmother, but what the fuck does that have to do with the Olympics? Alex in NYC -----Original Message----- From: folk devil Sent: Aug 25, 2008 11:31 AM To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" Subject: Re: [kj] Reza talks about new tour - Page http://www.holymoly.co.uk/news/28/david-beckham-and-jimmy-page-in-olympic-closing-ceremony-3952.html this is what the world thinks is British, I guess :/> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:25:39 +1200> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re: [kj] Reza talks about new tour> > Jaz's voice has always been powerful and guttural, it's the channeling of> the infernal...people who sing like him tend to lose a bit of control and> range over time but often retain the power...> > PS: I tuned in to catch 10 seconds of Jimmy Page and Beckham (?!) at the> closing ceremony of the Olympics last night, apparently he'd just finished> an impromotu Whole Lotta Love as a teaser for London 2012...anyone catch> that? I'll have to look it up...> > >> Jaz's belly is no more. He's lean,> > > > But.. that annuls the Pavarotti Principle of Sound Generation, Resonance,> > and Projection.> > Where else can Jaz produce his trademark snarling and growling?> >> > > > ... ... ... ... ... ...> >> > [looking at the current state of things]> >> > 'Save me...> > save me from Tomorrow..> > I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...!' > >> > --- On Sun, 8/24/08, Matthew Tibbits wrote:> >> > From: Matthew Tibbits > > Subject: [kj] Reza talks about new tour> > To: gathering at misera.net> > Date: Sunday, August 24, 2008, 4:39 PM> >> >> >> >> > #yiv1026652639 .hmmessage P> > {> > margin:0px;padding:0px;}> > #yiv1026652639 {> > FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma;}> >> > Jaz's belly is no more. He's lean, mean and raring to go.> >> >> > _______________________________________________> > Gathering mailing list> > Gathering at misera.net> > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering> >> > > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering See what people are saying about Windows Live. Check out featured posts. Check It Out! _________________________________________________________________ Get ideas on sharing photos from people like you. Find new ways to share. http://www.windowslive.com/explore/photogallery/posts?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Photo_Gallery_082008 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Not to sound like > someone's grandmother, but what the fuck does that have to do with the > Olympics? > > > > Alex in NYC > > > From partyslammer at socal.rr.com Mon Aug 25 12:58:16 2008 From: partyslammer at socal.rr.com (TB) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 09:58:16 -0700 Subject: [kj] OT: Page at the Olympics In-Reply-To: <48B2E219.6080508@sbcglobal.net> References: <32827262.1219679480409.JavaMail.root@mswamui-blood.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <48B2E219.6080508@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <7600F652A07F4E23AA40712E4F228F4D@Bell2007PC> "B. Oliver Sheppard" wrote: > Gunna give you every inch 'o my love! Considering a chick sang it, she must have one helluva clitoris! (yeah I know she changed the lyrics so it didn't sound like she had a Kong-Dong strap-on) T.B. From killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com Mon Aug 25 13:18:25 2008 From: killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com (The Exorcist) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 13:18:25 -0400 Subject: [kj] OT: Page at the Olympics In-Reply-To: <7600F652A07F4E23AA40712E4F228F4D@Bell2007PC> References: <32827262.1219679480409.JavaMail.root@mswamui-blood.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <48B2E219.6080508@sbcglobal.net> <7600F652A07F4E23AA40712E4F228F4D@Bell2007PC> Message-ID: <0K66005XO2QT1341@mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> No way she sang it. It looked like a horrific lip sync fiasco to me, At 12:58 PM 8/25/2008, TB wrote: >"B. Oliver Sheppard" wrote: > > >>Gunna give you every inch 'o my love! > >Considering a chick sang it, she must have one helluva clitoris! > >(yeah I know she changed the lyrics so it didn't sound like she had >a Kong-Dong strap-on) > >T.B. >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering at misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering Competition is a barbaric, insensitive ritual that reeks of social Darwinism. We cannot allow the fittest to survive on our pages. Your loss is someone else's gain, and your gain is someone else's loss. Therefore, losers contribute to the society and winners take away from it. Being a winner is unethical, while a society of losers is happy and striving as a collective. In the spirit of diversity, inclusiveness, and collectivism our contests shall have no winners. 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Oliver Sheppard" wrote: > > >> Gunna give you every inch 'o my love! > > Considering a chick sang it, she must have one helluva clitoris! > > (yeah I know she changed the lyrics so it didn't sound like she had a > Kong-Dong strap-on) > > T.B. > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > Regards From bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net Mon Aug 25 13:45:46 2008 From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net (B. Oliver Sheppard) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 12:45:46 -0500 Subject: [kj] Page at the Olympics In-Reply-To: <39a6bc90594.181e466b@smtp.freeserve.com> References: <32827262.1219679480409.JavaMail.root@mswamui-blood.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <48B2E219.6080508@sbcglobal.net> <7600F652A07F4E23AA40712E4F228F4D@Bell2007PC> <39a6bc90594.181e466b@smtp.freeserve.com> Message-ID: <48B2EFCA.8010001@sbcglobal.net> Wow, is that what they changed it to? "Gonna TAKE every inch of your love?" Hahah. Imagine if any other country had intro'd the Olympics this way. yes, even the US. With an explicit reference to penis length and girth. Seriously. -Oliver Stephen Robinson wrote: > They changed it? What the heck too, "I'm goin' take every inch of your love"? > Jeepers > > >> "B. Oliver Sheppard" wrote: >> >> >> >>> Gunna give you every inch 'o my love! >>> >> > From partyslammer at socal.rr.com Mon Aug 25 13:47:18 2008 From: partyslammer at socal.rr.com (TB) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 10:47:18 -0700 Subject: [kj] Page at the Olympics In-Reply-To: <39a6bc90594.181e466b@smtp.freeserve.com> References: <32827262.1219679480409.JavaMail.root@mswamui-blood.atl.sa.earthlink.net><48B2E219.6080508@sbcglobal.net><7600F652A07F4E23AA40712E4F228F4D@Bell2007PC> <39a6bc90594.181e466b@smtp.freeserve.com> Message-ID: <1FF5DF78DD934991ADEA6F0697E76723@Bell2007PC> "Stephen Robinson" wrote: > They changed it? What the heck too, "I'm goin' take every inch of your > love"? > Jeepers It was changed to "every bit of my love." Maybe she was talking about cocaine nuggets or nasty smelling farts, I dunno. "I'm gonna give you every bit of my love (pfffff-f-f-ft-t-t-t-t)" T.B. From karen.weil at sddt.com Mon Aug 25 15:16:53 2008 From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 12:16:53 -0700 Subject: [kj] OT: Page at the Olympics References: <32827262.1219679480409.JavaMail.root@mswamui-blood.atl.sa.earthlink.net><48B2E219.6080508@sbcglobal.net> <7600F652A07F4E23AA40712E4F228F4D@Bell2007PC> Message-ID: My, my: You pull no punches, huh, TB? ; ) Well, you've got our attention. Yippee-kay-ay, k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: "TB" To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 9:58 AM Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Page at the Olympics > "B. Oliver Sheppard" wrote: > > >> Gunna give you every inch 'o my love! > > Considering a chick sang it, she must have one helluva clitoris! > > (yeah I know she changed the lyrics so it didn't sound like she had a > Kong-Dong strap-on) > > T.B. > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From karen.weil at sddt.com Mon Aug 25 15:27:33 2008 From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 12:27:33 -0700 Subject: [kj] Reza talks about new tour References: Message-ID: <0AA63E79F67E4BEF9667B1ECE94D723E@edweil> Gotta love that low-carb diet! ; ) It's the Killing Joke diet! k.w. ----- Original Message ----- From: Matthew Tibbits To: gathering at misera.net Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 4:39 PM Subject: [kj] Reza talks about new tour Jaz's belly is no more. He's lean, mean and raring to go. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get Hotmail on your mobile from Vodafone Try it Now! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From saulomar1 at yahoo.com Mon Aug 25 15:54:22 2008 From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com (sade1) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 12:54:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [kj] Reza talks about new tour - Page In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <855357.68784.qm@web52611.mail.re2.yahoo.com> > this is what the world thinks is British ? ? The cheese factor was a bit tacky and high. And?vapid.?The only thing missing was a James Bond 007 mock-up complete with?theme music. ... ... ... ... ... ... [looking at the current?state of things] 'Save me... ? save me?from Tomorrow.. ?? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...!'?? --- On Mon, 8/25/08, folk devil wrote: From: folk devil Subject: Re: [kj] Reza talks about new tour - Page To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 8:31 AM #yiv199804972 .hmmessage P { margin:0px;padding:0px;} #yiv199804972 { FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma;} http://www.holymoly.co.uk/news/28/david-beckham-and-jimmy-page-in-olympic-closing-ceremony-3952.html ? this is what the world thinks is British, I guess :/ > Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:25:39 +1200 > From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz > To: gathering at misera.net > Subject: Re: [kj] Reza talks about new tour > > Jaz's voice has always been powerful and guttural, it's the channeling of > the infernal...people who sing like him tend to lose a bit of control and > range over time but often retain the power... > > PS: I tuned in to catch 10 seconds of Jimmy Page and Beckham (?!) at the > closing ceremony of the Olympics last night, apparently he'd just finished > an impromotu Whole Lotta Love as a teaser for London 2012...anyone catch > that? I'll have to look it up... > > >> Jaz's belly is no more. He's lean, > > ? > > ?But.. that annuls the Pavarotti Principle of Sound Generation, Resonance, > > and Projection. > > Where else?can Jaz produce his trademark snarling and growling? > > > > ? > > ... ... ... ... ... ... > > > > [looking at the current?state of things] > > > > 'Save me... > > ? save me?from Tomorrow.. > > ?? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...!'?? > > > > --- On Sun, 8/24/08, Matthew Tibbits wrote: > > > > From: Matthew Tibbits > > Subject: [kj] Reza talks about new tour > > To: gathering at misera.net > > Date: Sunday, August 24, 2008, 4:39 PM > > > > > > > > > > #yiv1026652639 .hmmessage P > > { > > margin:0px;padding:0px;} > > #yiv1026652639 { > > FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma;} > > > > Jaz's belly is no more. He's lean, mean and raring to go. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Gathering mailing list > > Gathering at misera.net > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering at misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering See what people are saying about Windows Live. Check out featured posts. Check It Out! _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...!' --- On Mon, 8/25/08, folk devil wrote: From: folk devil Subject: Re: [kj] Reza talks about new tour - PageTo: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 8:31 AM http://www.holymoly.co.uk/news/28/david-beckham-and-jimmy-page-in-olympic-closing-ceremony-3952.html this is what the world thinks is British, I guess :/> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:25:39 +1200> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re: [kj] Reza talks about new tour> > Jaz's voice has always been powerful and guttural, it's the channeling of> the infernal...people who sing like him tend to lose a bit of control and> range over time but often retain the power...> > PS: I tuned in to catch 10 seconds of Jimmy Page and Beckham (?!) at the> closing ceremony of the Olympics last night, apparently he'd just finished> an impromotu Whole Lotta Love as a teaser for London 2012...anyone catch> that? I'll have to look it up...> > >> Jaz's belly is no more. He's lean,> > > > But.. that annuls the Pavarotti Principle of Sound Generation, Resonance,> > and Projection.> > Where else can Jaz produce his trademark snarling and growling?> >> > > > ... ... ... ... ... ...> >> > [looking at the current state of things]> >> > 'Save me...> > save me from Tomorrow..> > I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...!' > >> > --- On Sun, 8/24/08, Matthew Tibbits wrote:> >> > From: Matthew Tibbits > > Subject: [kj] Reza talks about new tour> > To: gathering at misera.net> > Date: Sunday, August 24, 2008, 4:39 PM> >> >> >> >> > #yiv1026652639 .hmmessage P> > {> > margin:0px;padding:0px;}> > #yiv1026652639 {> > FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma;}> >> > Jaz's belly is no more. He's lean, mean and raring to go.> >> >> > _______________________________________________> > Gathering mailing list> > Gathering at misera.net> > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering> >> > > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering See what people are saying about Windows Live. Check out featured posts. Check It Out! _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________________ Get thousands of games on your PC, your mobile phone, and the web with Windows?. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/108588800/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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