[kj] FW: Killing Joke's career/[OT] Other Bands...

[Stephen Lawrence]

thanks for the heads up i remain to hear it from the horses mouth though

Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 21:57:18 -0500From: killingjoke at theimmortalfool.comTo: gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] FW: Killing Joke's career/[OT] Other Bands...He was being jocular. But you mistook it as inflamatory. Brendan has quite the mind and an even greater mouth. :)He also enjoys using sarcasm, irony and subtlety quite often.You might wanna take his words with a grain of salt... Come to think of it, a box of salt would be better.Cheers mate!(Waiting for Brendan to come out shrieking how he was DAMNED SERIOUS and ban me from the islandof incompetent jesters. *Hiccup*) At 09:52 PM 12/23/2008, Stephen Lawrence wrote:
well i speak as i find and if someone makes an inflamatory statement in my humble opinion then they will recieve a reactionand as i used to be close to the band i agree i found jaz quite sneering and un approachable i got on well with youth big paul and the late raventhough

Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 21:31:55 -0500From: killingjoke at theimmortalfool.comTo: gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] FW: Killing Joke's career/[OT] Other Bands...Naaaah, I'd probably be on one of the lowest rungs of the KJ ladder. Mind you Jaz & I would never everget along well in person. (Well maybe many others as well... LOL) Most of the ppl. on here know each other for quite a while and we are not the "hardcore serious no joking" typeson here. The tone of messages run the gamut from serious to humorous, to sad, to angry, to sarcastic to total bonkers off ofthe motherfucking wall. It's hard to judge folks when you don't know them and their style of writing. Give it a bit of time and you'll see how correctI am. Cheers,MePSThe first CD I ever bought was Wilson Phillips :)http://www.amazon.com/Wilson-Phillips/dp/B000002UW5/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1230085637&sr=8-1 I gotta work harder on the tapes but I think it was a Billy Joel "Storm Front". We were po' folk.At 09:08 PM 12/23/2008, Stephen Lawrence wrote:

thanks for the reply exorcist whom i feel is real killing joke fan who doesn 't view them as a METAL band 


Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:22:54 -0500
From: killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] FW: Killing Joke's career/[OT] Other Bands...
We're just a lazy/picky lot.(Well at least I am.)  It'll come around. 
Though mentioning it is not the wisest of choices. :)
At 07:16 PM 12/22/2008, Stephen Lawrence wrote: 

for what it's worth i saw them at the academy brixtahn londahn engerland and sorry to say as much as i love the album they were a big dissappointment live so glad to discover prong supporting who didn't get a fair hearing from the sychophantic fnm fans btw i 've commented on a coupla things but nobody seems to wanna acknowledge me or the comments 


From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz 
To: gathering at misera.net 
Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 04:54:52 +1100 
Subject: Re: [kj] FW: Killing Joke's career/[OT] Other Bands...
Angeldust is epic but I’d also have to loved to see FNM touring around the time of The Real Thing: 
  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAqXJYY11eA 
  
Chances of getting laid have to be good after going to an early Mike Patton gig… 
  
I’ve got all their albums, even the early ones, but I don’t even know the guitarist’s name. Reminds me of Kim Thayil. Damn good. 


From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of jerry bodkin 
Sent: Tuesday, 23 December 2008 04:46 
To: gathering at misera.net 
Subject: [kj] FW: Killing Joke's career/[OT] Other Bands... 
  
 

 
From: jelbod at hotmail.co.uk 
To: jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk 
Subject: RE: [kj] Killing Joke's career/[OT] Other Bands... 
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:15:16 +0000
  
 Yep, i'm with you Jim, Angeldust is a superb album, funnily enough the Mrs. and i gave it a spin just the other day, well worth it. The only track worth a listen on TRT is Woodpeckers From Mars, but that's just my opinion. 
  
 Jel No More.


Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:09:18 +0000 
From: jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk 
To: gathering at misera.net 
Subject: Re: [kj] Killing Joke's career/[OT] Other Bands...
I suspect that the brief single 'squeak' taken from 'Cecilia' was the band's witty riposte after being told off for putting so many samples on Angel Dust. 
  
Angel Dust is an incredible album, for sure. I was a bit bemused to see the '1001 Albums You Must Own Before You Die' including The Real Thing but not Angel Dust. TRT isn't a bad album at all, but it's neither as good nor as original as the next one. 
  
I've always felt it's a pity that so many bands were inspired by FNM to play a fusion of funk, rap and metal, when they should really have been inspired to ignore genre limitations and carve out their own path- FNM's real musical legacy. 
  
Jim. 
--- On Mon, 22/12/08, Brendan Quinn <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> wrote: 

From: Brendan Quinn <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> 
Subject: Re: [kj] Killing Joke's career/[OT] Other Bands... 
To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" <gathering at misera.net> 
Date: Monday, 22 December, 2008, 4:39 PM 
FNM, good call. Is it just me or is the horn at 6 seconds into Midlife Crisis a crackup? 
  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESjyB8EMw4w 
  
Angel Dust is an album you gotta have, no excuse permitted. The following video is total proof that nothing coming out these days compares to the early 90s: 
  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGKjeRgn4CA&feature=related 
  
  


From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Jim Harper 
Sent: Tuesday, 23 December 2008 03:00 
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) 
Subject: Re: [kj] Killing Joke's career/[OT] Other Bands... 
  
Just thought I'd chime in with a few more acts worth tracking down and evaluating: 
  
A) I'm sure most Joke fans (and people into general alternative/metal in the early 90s) will already have digested and evaluated these guys, but if you haven't, it's definitely worth looking at Faith No More. Their first two albums are patchy funk-metal with a bad singer, while The Real Thing is solid funk-metal with a decent singer, but they were something entirely different on Angel Dust, King For A Day and Album of the Year: heavy, experimental, funny, abrasive and defiantly individualist. They were openly influenced by Killing Joke- the drummer was very inlfuenced by the Joke and PiL, Billy Gould's bass playing is often reminscent of Raven's, while they're another of the few rock/metal bands of the time that used keyboards openly without sounding wimpy or poppy. I know not everyone on here thinks much of 'em, but for my money Faith No More were one of the greats. (It's just a shame some of the guitar on Angel Dust is so mediocre- Jim Martin was just not up to the task by then). 
  
B) Not as abrasive as the Joke, but the first two Psychedelic Furs albums really deserve a listen for anyone into post-punk or new wave. Having said that, anyone into post-punk or new wave has probably already heard them. 
  
C) D'espairsRay. Japanese rock. First-rate Japanese rock, well worth hearing. Much better than the somewhat overrated Dir En Grey. 
  
My 2p'th. 
  
Jim. 
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