[kj] t.b/ade-btw-ice-t and perry.f were palls also.... ;)

[ade]

I think the dumbasses are in the MAJORITY too.

BUT... of course, ignorance isn't the only driver for this bullshit, because people KNOW they're making excuses & blaming ohter groups for their own failings, or whatever they want to blame on johnny foreigner today.

Ignorance? Well, of course if everyone were given the chance to be educated, well, ignorance would be a thing of the past.. wouldn't it? Ha ha ha, now we know that's bollocks too!!!

Humanity - destined to grub around in its' own dirt, 'til the sun goes nova.

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I agree with the gist of that, that it's a symptom of ignorance / lack of
awareness, one of the many.

As Joe Rogan says, the problem with dumb people is, generally they're too
dumb to be aware that they're dumb.

He also points out that if you DON'T think George W is fucking dumb, well
by definition YOU'RE DUMBER THAN HIM.

Hahaha....I love the picture he paints of the international bankers /
Illuminati whatever you want to call them, all sitting around discussing
the muppet they put into power, George W...as an experiment to see how
dumb they can go. And the lone voice pipes up from the shadows in the
back:

"I think we can go dumber"

LOL. (Cheers for the vid BTW Bongo, laughed myslf assless).


> Well, as I said, it was a Sly Stone cover. I don't mean to keep on, but as

> a fan of both Perry & Ice T, I never considered it to be anything more

> than a cover/statement. Any nastiness on-stage, is clearly part of the

> statement, of how fucking pointless racism is. 'Cos we're all pink

> inside!!! It's a GOOD THING from Sly Stone to point out that calling

> someone whitey is just the same as calling someone nigger. Now we're

> talking. I find modern UK PC society seems to think it's ok for any sort

> of ethnic group to have a dig at the majority UK population because, well

> it's White Guilt, isn't it. Fucking double-standards rubbish.

>

> Racism ain't EVER going away. It's far more complex in that it's not even

> about race, the colour of someone's skin is merely an indicator that kicks

> off a set pattern of thoughts, prejudices, in a persons' mind. We all have

> it built-in, some have to supress it, as they were brought up in racist

> environments, whereas some find it easier to supress it, due to different

> learnt behaviours. Coming from a shitty council estate, I was brought up

> with talk about pakis, etc, etc, around me. YAWN. Aren't parents supposed

> to be our examples? ;) Ignorance is the norm, if not something to be proud

> of in those places. I can honestly say I've heard people use the phrase

> "Strong in arm, thick in head" - now that's something to be proud of!!!

> Soooo.........

>

> ..........in cultures where little thought is encouraged, racism will be

> rife, as it's easier to blame EVERYTHING on the easy option, typically

> being 'foreigners'. I figured that bollocks out by the time I was 8, ffs.

>

>

> Anyway, rant over ;)

>

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On

> Behalf Of melinda grant

> Sent: 10 February 2008 19:49

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Subject: Re: [kj] t.b/ade-btw-ice-t and perry.f were palls also.... ;)

>

>

> i am so sick of the fact that racism still exists here in this world  in

> this day and age of 2008,thats all i have to say on the subject

> reallyreally ;/  apart from its about time everyone grew up where that

> subject is concerned and started to change there point of view b.4 its to

> late  ;) a smile from me in sarcasm btw !!

>

> milinda ps t.b/ade-- perry  from janes addiction and ice.t were friends ;)

> and im leaving it at tha as ive already posted my views on that thread

> yesterdayt!!

>

>> Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 00:51:49 +0000

>> From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk

>> To: gathering at misera.net

>> Subject: Re: [kj] that shocked me t.b/ice-t and perry.f ;(

>>

>> Racism is everywhere, between every different people - I'm SO bored of

>> the simplistic white/black view.

>>

>> It was Paul McCuntny & tragically, Stevie Wonder (who should've packed

>> it in just as the 80's started)

>>

>>

>> -----Original Message-----

>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net

>> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of T.B.

>> Sent: 10 February 2008 00:46

>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>> Subject: Re: [kj] that shocked me t.b/ice-t and perry.f ;(

>>

>>

>> "melinda grant" wrote:

>>

>> i was quite shocked by that t.b and a little saddened ice-t and perry

>> f(he

>> dont half look like jazes double hay ;)),are they joking? or are they

>> just

>> portraying social tensions between black and whites in u.s.a,where there

>> is

>> a lack of understanding between some of the cultures? note everyone is

>> rascist of course not in u.s.a but its a known fact that there is some

>> tension--t.b wished you had not posted this ;(

>>

>> btw i never would of taken perry farrel as a recist i think he is just

>> acting a type of person ;)!!!!

>>

>> pps personally, i have not encountered much racism in u.k,also i was

>> born

>> and partly educated in u.k

>>

>> +++++++

>>

>> It's actually a cover song originally done by Sly and The family Stone

>> and

>> was recorded (but never officially released on an album) and played live

>> with Ice T and his metal band Body Count during Jane's 1991 Lollapalooza

>> tour as a sort of confrontational indictment of racism. IMO, the idea

>> didn't quite match the song choice or execution when they did it and

>> obviously judging from your comment and other comments on the video, it

>> still confuses a lot of people to this day. However, the fact that it

>> *does* get listeners/viewers' attention and gets people questioning

>> whether

>> it's a "joke" or not and what the true meaning behind it may be is worth

>> more than a dozen far more preachy, "feel good" songs (Michael Jackson

>> and

>> Paul McCartney's "Ebony and Ivory" anyone?) in itself.

>>

>> And yes, there is plenty of racism here in the US, and not just between

>> Blacks and Whites.

>>

>> Here's a live version from that tour that may get the point across

>> better:

>>

>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Prpi-aLDoG4

>>

>> T.B.

>>

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