[kj] When Goths Cry... middle class, working class ... it's all a load of ...

[ade]

We've certainly all learnt our lessons under a labour government, eh !

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of pssyche23
Sent: 20 February 2008 19:14
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Subject: Re: [kj] When Goths Cry... middle class,working class ... it's all a load of ...


It's the toffs in "average middle class" working guy's clothing (a la David Cameron) I object to ... Old Etonians, born to rule ... then again, even under a Labour government that I craved for, the divide between rich and poor seems to have got ever wider ... despite the many positive aspects of a centre-left government, there still seems to be an illusion of democracy (what with dodgy dossiers and pandering to big business) ... no wonder many of the young-un's couldn't give a shit ... and even if they do, they are probably materialistic and self-centred, so likely to vote for someone dangling the same old carrots such as tax cuts ... what sort of career prospects do many have ... a fast-food serving career path or drugs and petty crime ... so, sorry, going off tangent a bit, middle class ? What am I ? Well, for all my centre left leanings, our family was probably lower middle class ... my parents never went down the pub and didn't go to bingo !!! Relatively poor compared with the working class family who lived next door, who seemed to possess all the mod cons ... I don't think class really is an issue for folks anymore, the lines are so blurred, most people are somewhere in the middle ... 
 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: jpwhkj at aol.com 
To: gathering at misera.net 
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] When Goths Cry...

Difficult to say - that quote applies here as well  Probably easier to say who isn't:
 
chavs
Ade
errr...
that's it


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From: sade1 < saulomar1 at yahoo.com>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) < gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:32
Subject: Re: [kj] When Goths Cry...


  So, what is middle-class, according to Europeans and U.K.eans? 
I live in the United States and here "everybone is 'middle-class'."** 
 
**anyone remember this quote from 
  the film "Gods And Monsters"?

jpwhkj at aol.com wrote:

Phew, that's a relief!
 
Yes, I'm prejudiced - and I've yet to meet anyone who isn't (which I suspect is what you were getting at).  For me, the question is how we deal with our prejudices and how they affect our interation with the rest of the world.
 
And can I just check whether you are middle class? <grin>

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Sent: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 22:05
Subject: Re: [kj] When Goths Cry...


Nothing, I'm just prejudiced. Now tell you're not.



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