[kj] When Goths Cry...
ade
ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk
Thu Feb 21 16:23:37 EST 2008
To me, from a UK perspective, the middle classes I have it in for (not every single member of the middle classes of course - that's mindless generalisation!!) are those overly-moralistic judgemental cunts that look DOWN on/write-off common folk, such as I (he's so foul mouthed! How embarrassing!) & look UP to the aristocratic sorts. Aspiring wannabees ;)
You know, it's strange - I often think much if the REAL aristocracy sorts are more like the lower classes than anything else - pissed-up, not giving a fuck. The middle classes, however, are often wannabees.
So, Ollie/Wollie/Dollie may think I'm bitching about those 'caring' tofu eating trendy twats (I call 'em patronising lefties) whereas in fact, I've got it in for moralistic maggots who judge people by appearance alone... they often become 'good christians' - funny, that!
It's not really a class thing, but if you plotted it on a histogram, there'd be a great big turd-shaped lump of dots around the middle-class/self-righteous/wannabee vector.
Ever seen UK telly comedy 'Keeping Up Appearances'? Sums 'em up...
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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn
Sent: 21 February 2008 05:03
To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
Subject: Re: [kj] When Goths Cry...
My old man mentioned a year or so ago that I was middle class and I was like
"WTF?!" didn't know how to take it...had never really considered the whole
issue before. I dunno if Aussies / Kiwis take more or a UK or US stance on
class...Geoff / Bongo? I think it's a bit less important down here, but I
may be wrong.
We don't have ANY class in NZ mate!
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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of B. Oliver Sheppard
Sent: Thursday, 21 February 2008 5:42 a.m.
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] When Goths Cry...
There was some weird statistic that came out a couple of years ago that
said something like 60% of Americans thought they were in the Top 20% of
income earners or something. Americans generally have a really distorted
view of class - it's not supposed to exist here, except/unless it is the
middle class, whih is supposed to be omnipresent.
-Oliver
folk devil wrote:
> So, that puts quite a lot of middle-class Americans under the poverty
> line then. ;)
>
>
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> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 03:32:42 -0800
> From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com
> To: gathering at misera.net
> Subject: Re: [kj] When Goths Cry...
>
> So, what /is/ middle-class, according to Europeans and U.K.eans?
> I live in the United States and here "everybone is 'middle-class'."**
>
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