[kj] Killing Joke 2003 or Hosannas from the Basements of hell

Mik mik at corvids.eclipse.co.uk
Fri Feb 22 18:00:01 EST 2008


Hated it when it first came out but slowly grew to love it as possibly the best kj lp.



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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of melinda grant
Sent: 22 February 2008 22:54
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Subject: Re: [kj] Killing Joke 2003 or Hosannas from the Basements of hell



whats this for.....................

btw,still tops ;)



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From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 11:26:38 +1300
Subject: Re: [kj] Killing Joke 2003 or Hosannas from the Basements of hell

Meta in that context basically means ‘self-referential’, so for example meta-philosophy is philosophizing about the nature of philosophy itself. Here’s part of a definition from Wiki:



In epistemology <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epistemology> , the prefix meta- is used to mean about (its own category). For example, metadata <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metadata> are data about data (who has produced them, when, what format the data are in and so on). Similarly, metamemory <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metamemory> in psychology means an individual's knowledge <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knowledge> about whether or not they would remember something if they concentrated on recalling it.HereHere





Therefore a meta-killing joke is a ‘killing joke’ that refers to Killing Joke. *grin*



Made sense in my noggin when I wrote it, then again my noggin might be past its use-by date :-)



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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1
Sent: Saturday, 23 February 2008 11:04 a.m.
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] Killing Joke 2003 or Hosannas from the Basements of hell



How about "meta-killing joke"? I kinda get it, but not entirely.

(ab. when i wrote everyone's heard

of kj-influenced bands but not KJ itself..)

Brendan Quinn <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> wrote:

It refers to a situation where you are presented with two choices when in fact there are many…




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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Lennonka
Sent: Friday, 22 February 2008 7:42 p.m.
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] Killing Joke 2003 or Hosannas from the Basements of hell



Cheers Brendan

Yes, I've used d'fence with an intention : )
I'm not getting your first sentence, though.

What do you mean by my "false dichotomy"?
Is that a serious illness? lol

Greetings
Lenn

2008/2/22, Brendan Quinn <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>:

NICE!



I see your false dichotomy and I raise you an open mind…



Not sure if you realise but d'fence was quite a good pun in that context :-)



"Everything is true in some sense, false in some sense, meaningless in some sense, true and false in some sense, true and meaningless in some sense, false and meaningless in some sense, and true, false, and meaningless in some sense."



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5g9q6iyhY-4 <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5g9q6iyhY-4&feature=related> &feature=related





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