[kj] Killing Joke and the U.S.

[Brendan Quinn]

American companies like Union Banking Corporation (Prescott Bush served on
the Board) traded with the Nazis...not sure if they 'funded' them but they
certainly traded with them, beyond the start of the war too...

-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of B. Oliver Sheppard
Sent: Friday, 29 February 2008 8:27 a.m.
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] Killing Joke and the U.S.

Yeah, okay, so you haven't read my posts. Not all the Nazis' war command 
was hanged for GENOCIDE. Theyw ere hanged for WAR CRIMES. The two can 
overlap but are not necessarily the same. The Nuremberg Principles state 
that if ones country is involved in an illegal war, citizens and 
soldiers have not just a right but a DUTY to resist it. A few US troops 
have gone AWOL and have become objectors of conscience, but many go off 
and do it anyway.

To initiate a war of aggression ... is not only an international crime, 
it is the supreme international crime, differing only from other war 
crimes in that it contains within itself the accumulated evil of the whole."

-- International Military Tribunal at Nuremberg, Germany, 1946

This is what nazis were tried for -- initating a war of aggression. the 
genocide, etc., was also part of the case against some Nazis but not all 
of them. many were put on trial simply for initiating or being complicit 
in invading France, Poland, etc. It is exactly comparable to what the US 
has done to Iraq, a nation on the other side of the planet that posed no 
threat to it, nd which did not attack it.

Back to KJ, Stubb's BBQ, SXSW (March) 2009. Pretty clear and easy. Could 
be a one-off gig, would do wonders for KJ's publicity.

-Oliver

fluke fluke wrote:

> "that US troops, for example, ough o e subjet to th Nuremberg Laws 

> that led to Nazis

> being hanged,"

>  

>   This is just plain stupid . Although the Gathering isn't the place 

> to discuss it.

> But there you go again making stupid nonsensical comparisons . The 

> Nazis leadership , the leadership and not the troops were hanged for 

> the genocide of up to six million people and other War crimes during WW2.

>    How can you logically compare the Leaders of Nazi Germany who 

> orchestrated the deaths of Six million people with U.S troops 

> following orders in the legitimate war in Iraq?

>     You simply , logically, cannot compare the two

>  

>  

>  


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