[kj] Youth........................

[Leigh Newton]

Because when you sample a piece of someone else's music, you have to give credit so you don't get sued. 

----- Original Message ----
From: Termite <npscott at blueyonder.co.uk>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 11:00:59 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] Youth........................

  And actually it is a Come As You Are/Eighties 
discrepancy, the keyboards at the beginning are identical to A Forest, same 
notes, same sound, same tempo even.
 
Massive Attack acknowledged their sample of 10:15 
Saturday Night on Mezzanine, no reason why Transmission couldn't have done the 
same same and credited Smith/Tolhurst/Gallup in the sleeve notes!
 
Ok back to my cave I guess better than to voice 
opinion on this forum.....
 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From:   Alexander 
  Smith 
  To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the 
  band!) 
  Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 3:26   PM
  Subject: Re: [kj]   Youth........................
  

  

  I'm just suggesting that calling it a "rip off" is a bit crass and 
  alarmist. I doubt the Cure are particularly bothered about whether the track 
  is credited to them or not.  I mean, the damn track is called "Glade" 
  (i.e. an open space in a forrest). It's clearly a reference and/or homage to 
  the Cure track. 
  

  This isn't a "Come As You Are"/"Eighties" sort of discrepancy at 
  all.
  

  Alex in NYC
  


    On Feb 29, 2008, at 9:59 AM, Termite wrote:

          I love Transmissions album, and I love The Cure 
    too, if it was a homage then why not state so?  They were not trying to 
    convince anyone that the track WASNT their own either?!?!, so maybe if you 
    don't like to chose the words "rip off" then its "unreported 
    homage"
     
    Has either Big Paul or Youth ever throughout 
    any interviews stated they are Cure fans?
          ----- Original Message -----
      From: Alexander Smith
      To: A list about all things Killing Joke 
      (the band!)
      Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 2:36       PM
      Subject: Re: [kj]       Youth........................
      

      I wouldn't call it a "rip off" so much as an obvious homage. There's 
      NO MISSING that it's based on "A Forrest." A rip-off would imply that they 
      were trying to convince people that the track was their own.
      

      Alex in NYC
      

      


            On Feb 29, 2008, at 9:26 AM, Termite wrote:

                      Tried listening to anything by Transmission?  
        That is Youth and Big Paul, sounds like a more ambient version of The 
        Cure especially songs like Star Stella and Glade (A very close Cure's A 
        forest instrumental rip off) 
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          From: fluke fluke
          To: gathering at misera.net
          Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008           2:09 PM
          Subject: [kj]           Youth........................
          

 
  Anyone know what kind of music he has           been making recently? 
Is he still into Goan           trance and techno and all that or has his tastes changed /
I was           wondering what direction the new impending KJ album will take because           the Yyouth influence on the Pandemonium Album is all to           apparent

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