[kj] OT: Penny Rimbaud (Crass) interviewed, looking for brandy in his mobile phone flask

[ade]

> Industrial records were doing it before '78?


Yep.

I think Penny's comment that branding hadn't really happened is
entertaining because he must've been starkly unaware of Bovril, OXO,
Ford & much, much more, lol!!!

Great thing about TG was that they ran parallel to punk, so they were
never on the bandwagon... neither were they welcomed by all those, ahem,
'punk' rebels :)


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Industrial records were doing it before '78?

DIY was obviously around before Crass. But the military stencil font, 
the grafitti tagging campaigns, and the thing of using a bedsheet with a 
slogan on it as the band's backdrop, using military surplus gear all 
dyed in black -- that was new. I read george Berger's Story of Crass and 
that was being done by these guys in 1977, when, unbeknownst to a lot of 
people, Crass actually toured the US. Only NYC. But there were some 
responses of people at Crass shows in NYC in 1977 (!) and they were 
interviewed in the book -- the militaristic, all-black army surplus 
gear, the stencil font backdrop was described as "frightening" and they 
were mistaken for fascists because of that crossed-out cross logo, which 
some thought was a swastika. "Reality Asylum" from 1978 is definitely 
proto-Current 93 type stuff, as David Tibet even mentions in the book

-Oliver


ade wrote:

> Cheers for that - interesting stuff. Bit naive about branding. Industrial

> Records ripping the piss out of corporate images & being massively do-it-yourself

> well pre-dates Crass Records, but worthy nonetheless.

>

> Great thing about old Crass hands is they all seem to have grown up understanding

> some things aren't about to change & frankly don't need to, but still hold onto

> values that matter.

>

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