[kj] OT: Ugh: Sex Pistols to begin recording new songs, possibly new LP.... :(

[ade]

He's got a fair amount of money in a bricks & mortar hasn't he? I think he's just trying to convince
everyone he's still 'Jonny from the block'. BUT... I don't think the money has changed him THAT much.
He's got an ego, but that's from having been idolised I expect & seems to fight it, self-consciously. I think
Wobble & Levene's heads are bigger!
 
Regards PiL, I think he's in a similar position to other monsters such as Kraftwerk & KJ, in that how the
fuck does he follow something like Metal Box? Especially as PiL have been so influential. Keep changing
I guess, which explains PiL after Metal Box.
 
I bet you'd bum him, if you had half a chance. Like a rat up a drainpipe...

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of jon chapman
Sent: 19 January 2008 21:03
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Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Ugh: Sex Pistols to begin recording new songs,possibly new LP.... :(


the older lydon gets,the more i dislike him. i dont care what anyone thinks lydon always makes out he's been shafted out of a few quid,but at the end of the day he's still not shy of a few green queens. apart from a couple of tracks with mcgeoch mid eighties john lydon has done fuck all worthwhile since metalbox.
 
 
 
 
to quote a band - ' john lydon once said he cared,now he don't even give a fuck' - circa rp 83.
 
 


 

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> Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 19:42:44 +0000

> From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Ugh: Sex Pistols to begin recording new songs, possibly new LP.... :(

> 

> This is just the way it is, I guess - the people that make the 'new'

> more palatable will be remembered, NOT Throbbing Gristle, or Crass.

> As an aside, I was pleased to hear Napalm Death got their first outing

> on Crass's 'Bullshit Detector #3' tape. Hoorah!

> 

> Talking of watering things down, been reading about the Clash today.

> Could only manage a bit - it's good bedtime reading, yawn - it's *my*

> turn to be tiresomely punk by saying: they were a fucking pub band.

> Always entertains me that Levene was literally embarrassed by them!

> Enough to leave, anyway. I guess I'll always be a Pistols/Damned man

> regarding punk & PiL/Cure/Bauhaus/Banshees/Killing Joke for post-punk,

> that being of far more interest to me.

> 

> PS. I was being sarky - anyone who calls themselves a consultant (cuntsultant)

> is likely to be a little fucking pretentious, no?!! "Maybe you should wear

> drainpipe trousers & a thin tie?". Revenge of the credible record company

> stylists...

> 

> -----Original Message-----

> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net

> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of B. Oliver Sheppard

> Sent: 19 January 2008 19:21

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Ugh: Sex Pistols to begin recording new songs,

> possibly new LP.... :(

> 

> 

> Well, I would, but that sounds like the sort of thing like "poet" or 

> "musician" that doesn't quite fit the "have to pay rent & bills" litmus 

> test. But, yes, I think all bands should run their ideas first through 

> me, personally. :)

> 

> Also, about branding, I am sorta sketchy on Factory, and I know GM and 

> Ford logos were on advertisements and the like for decades and decades. 

> Obviously the first Crass EP (technically an EP but the size was 

> LP-length; they did it to hold costs down and pioneered the "Pay No More 

> Than.." thing you USED to see on punk LPs) was on Small Wonder, not 

> Crass Records, though they had had Exitstencil Press -- which did the 

> military stencil grafitti tagging, for a number of years before '78, 

> maybe as early as '75, when future members of Crass were in the 

> avant-band Exit, which sorta kinda became Crass after they heard the 

> first rumblings of punk.

> 

> I suppose I am a bit miffed, like Penny Rimbaud, that Crass really did 

> contribute a lot that they're almost routinely overlooked for. The 

> "commune" they worked out of, Dial House, had been a center of musical 

> activity and various avant bands since '69 or so. By the time Penny 

> Rimbaud formed Crass out of the ashes of Exit in 1977, he was already, 

> like, 35, and had been doing agit prop in one form or another already, 

> much like the COUM transmissions people. But Penny's militaristic snare 

> drumming, the "Reality Asylum" dark ambient music and forays into what 

> would now be called ambient/experimental, or even outright industrial 

> "Smash the Mac," plus the military surplus/all black stuff, that was 

> pioneering. NME would slam Crass constantly even as they quietly adopted 

> that spartan Crass font look for their own papers or punk section of 

> coverage. "We hate Crass, but we're gonna copy their aesthetics anyway, 

> and never credit them."

> 

> -Oliver

> 

> 

> ade wrote:

> > You should become an artistic consultant.

> >

> >

> >

> > 

> 

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