[kj] they did not have to be born in ny btw to b nyc punks olly; D)))!

[melinda grant]

N-Y-C  
 
 BUT THEN again AS SOME OTHER GATHERER MENTIONED--"THE KINKS" WELL WERE BACK TO THE U.K AGAIN--
btw how are the kinks considered punk-even early??? i mean i can see it with lou reed/iggy/ny dolls mc5/blondie nyc scene--but the kinks:? next someone will say that the track" little red rooster " by the stones was earlly punk roots ;D))!!> Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 17:10:52 -0600> From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re: [kj] they did not have to be born in ny btw to b punks olly; D)))!> > Well, I am kinda against the whole "scene pride" thing. My point in > weighing in on this was I saw someone (Mik?) counting the Stooges, MC5, > Dead Boys as among NYC punk rockers, when those are actually Midwestern > bands. The Dead Boys relocated.> > If I wanted to be a "Fuck You, I'm From Texas" kind of person, which I > am not, I could go to elaborate, convoluted lengths to say real > underground garage punk rock began in Texas with garagey bands like 13th > Floor Elevators, Zakary Thaks, all these great 60s TX proto-punk bands. > But those bands existed everywhere in '66, even if the book _Punk 365_ > opens with a big picture of Roky Erockson and the 13th Floor Elevators_ > in Austin in the late 1960s. But these bands are just that -- > proto-punk. I am not on anyone's side here. We all know MacLaren managed > the NY Dolls, went back to London and then wanted to start this or that > band, and he had seen bands like Television, etc.> > I don't know what city gets the blue ribbon for being the 1st, but it's > either London or NYC, I guess. I don't care. But there is something > quantifiably different about punk that separates it from garage rock or > other predecessors.> > -Oliver> > > melinda grant wrote:> > whos side r u on olly? your a texas boy right,so stay loyal to your > > u.s.a brothers and sisters and that includeds new yorkers> > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
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