[kj] Sex Pistols singer faces race attack claims

[Karen Weil]

You got that right, pal ...
Wish there were a utopia, but no such luck! ; )

k.w.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mik Raven" <mikraven at o2.co.uk>
To: <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 8:50 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] Sex Pistols singer faces race attack claims



> It's a nice dream that can never work in reality. People are too greedy 

> and

> the ones who get to run the place too power hungry (or why else would they

> want the job?). And who would do the crappy jobs that nobody wants to do 

> but

> still need doing in this utopia.

>

> When you find that job paying for doing nothing at all ade, send me an

> application form. Sounds like the perfect role for me based on age and

> experience!

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] 

> On

> Behalf Of ade

> Sent: 23 July 2008 16:45

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> Subject: Re: [kj] Sex Pistols singer faces race attack claims

>

> I wondered when this one would rear its' head, lol!

>

> So, are you going to bring about the changes required to rid ourselves

> of the current EVIL paymaster/slave structure? I don't like it either,

> I wish someone would pay me money for doing nothing, frankly, but you

> know the world keeps turning...

>

> So yeah, we can only live in the moment & make the most of it. Which can

> be pretty shitty.

>

> Would you be the sort of person good enough to take a leadership role

> if we revolted, overthrew the existing system, etc, in order to make a

> whole new BETTER system? In fact, who would be?

>

> Please, tell me of you utopian dream.

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net

> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of iPat

> Sent: 23 July 2008 16:28

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> Subject: Re: [kj] Sex Pistols singer faces race attack claims

>

>

> is the equal opportunities line another way of saying thet you are

> going to brainwash people into a work ethic that whilst giving them

> momentary rewards (money to buy food, achohol and posessions) simply

> serves to feed the machine that serves the rich, pollutes the world

> and perpetuates the myth so ellegantly portrayed by Orwell?

>

> Whatever you do, by being in the zone at that moment is living and

> therefore equality is irrelevant because living is all thats

> important. Whether a brickie or a musician are equal is irrelevant as

> its someone elses measure that is imposing itself as a value to which

> we should obey.

>

> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 4:03 PM, ade <ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk> wrote:

>> I'm all for giving everyone equal opportunities, damn straight! But 

>> giving

>> everyone an A is clearly not going to change a damn thing, other than to

>> make things worse!

>>

>> The other side of this is that if you & a bricky are 'equal' as is the

> idea

>> of this rubbish, then the bricky can go teach classical music, surely?

> Well,

>> he's equally qualified, so why not? We're all equal after, aren't we? Or

> is

>> it that everyone is different & socialists can't cope with that reality?

>>

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