[kj] School daze

[melinda grant]

there were no flashy ceremonies at my school either karen,i felt  a bit cheated actually ;D!!
 
 
milinda ps cheers for your well wishes a few days ago,carnt find your original post,been looking though,anyway,it was concerning me and mik doing the u.s.a leg of the k.j tour,why dont you come along,if only to one of them,treat your self ;D this is our only holiday this year and its costing us an arm and a leg as you can imagin for two people coming all the way from the u.k-hotels-internal flights ect......> From: karen.weil at sddt.com> To: gathering at misera.net> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:17:42 -0700> Subject: [kj] School daze> > > Hi, Brendan:> > Great points; I'm inclined with you. For instance, my 5-year-old cousin had > a graduation ceremony from kindergarten! While I can understand the > acknowledgement, I find it a bit odd.> (Perhaps it's sour grapes on my part, as there were certainly no "graduation > ceremonies" when I was in grade school!)> > k.w.> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brendan" <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" > <gathering at misera.net>> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 8:28 PM> Subject: Re: [kj] Sex Pistols singer faces race attack claims> > > > People, even kids, know when they are being patronised. Was reading an> > article about a study that showed that kids who are regularly lauded for> > 'effort' and 'trying hard', all that shit, well basically it has a> > negative effect. Kids KNOW that performance and achievement is important,> > all that smiley glad-hands treatment, giving kids certificates for turning> > up to school twice in a row on time or not drooling over themselves> > today...it's crap, and we're gonna end up breeding a population of> > hapless, entitled cretins.> >> > I suppose often it's got the right intentions behind it, but we all know> > the saying about the road to hell. Or was that an AC/DC song...?> >> > As a bit of a slow learner and awkward kid at school, what I actually> > appreciated was some one-on-on with a patient teacher who took the time to> > go through what I was having difficulty with, in a way tailored to how I> > learned, away from the spotlight of other kids who were already good at> > it. My reward was the achievement, then the good press from the teacher or> > family or peers was genuine.> >> >> Mr. Okereke is also gay; either stuff.co.nz and Lydon's thuggish> >> "associates" are unaware of this (I am not aware of Mr Okereke's uniform> >> of> >> choice being a glittery spandex catsuit and spaceman's helmet) or they > >> had> >> to concede that his being black was merely a more apparent target.> >>> >> I have also met many people who have attempted to take advantage of what> >> their behaviour implies they regard as a stigma; I'm equal opportunities,> >> me> >> - I'll be offensive to anyone who's offensive, regardless of their> >> hangups.> >> Did a lot of work with mentally & physically handicapped a few years back> >> -> >> they actively encouraged me to call them spackas (incidentally, great use> >> of> >> "spacka" in "Control", I thought). I concluded they were generally tired> >> of> >> the opposite treatment - the patronising deference.> >>> >> Darren> >> Hungerford, UK> >>> >> NB My oldest friend, and recently my best man, is a Gaylord, so there's > >> no> >> agenda here.> >>> >>> >> -----Original Message-----> >> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]> >> On> >> Behalf Of ade> >> Sent: 22 July 2008 12:33> >> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)> >> Subject: Re: [kj] Sex Pistols singer faces race attack claims> >> Importance: High> >>> >> Years ago, my asian/muslim mate (Moh) was recounting to me the time his> >> car> >> overheated & he was fucking about under the bonnet, trying to sort it > >> out.> >> He reminisced about how he went to a nearby shop to get some help & was> >> embarrassed 'cos his hands were covered in oil & were black from it. It> >> was> >> just a conversation about car woes.> >>> >> At this point my black friend jumped in & started challenging seriously > >> as> >> to "What's wrong with having black hands?"> >>> >> It occurred to me & Moh that the prick was nothing more than a race-card> >> playing wanker, of which there are MANY. You know, those people that my> >> lefty friends don't believe exist.> >>> >> Sounds a bit like this story too, though I admit my bias in favour of> >> Lydon.> >> Nevertheless, I can imagine his thicko mates behaving in typical grunt> >> fashion, but was that John? We shall see...> >>> >>> >> ade.> >>> >> PS. I LOVE DOUBLE-STANDARDS, OF COURSE THEY DON'T HARM SOCIETY & BREED> >> RESENTMENT - THAT'S FOR RACISTS. Whatever 'racist' means these days.> >> INJUSTICE FOR ALL!!!!!> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________> >> Gathering mailing list> >> Gathering at misera.net> >> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering> >>> >> >> > _______________________________________________> > Gathering mailing list> > Gathering at misera.net> > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering> > > > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
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