[kj] OT -- Sex Pis.. -- now, working at the Bank

[Brendan]

Yeah the way I use / understand the idea of karma is just energy really,
nothing to do with what goes around comes around or divine justice or fate
or any of that really. I'm not into any of the buddhist philosophy about
karma and multiple lives.

So to me money is a representation / transfer / expression / store of
energy. You study hard, work hard, live within your means and don't
squander what you have and you end up with stored energy...that's my ethic
at least. Which is why it's a bit weird to me that you can earn more money
by borrowing someone else's and betting on market trends...it's still
quite a weird concept to get my head around.


>> I personally have no issues being interested in money... It can

>> represent your hard

>> work, thrift and savings, your study and experience, it can provide

>> opportunity, it can

>>  come as a result of negative or positive behaviour, or luck, and can be

>> used similarly... > it's not just dirty or base by default at all.

>

>    Tho' i'm not too cool w/the idea of karma i nevertheless agree with

> this,

> and thanks for articulating it, as it is so rare to see that articulated

> clearly.

>    And without the usual sense of hidden guilt most writers project when I

> do see it actuallly written about.

>  

> "Money money money  money is not our fault"

>  

> 8~D

>

>

> ... ... ... ... ... ...

>

> [looking at the current state of things]

>

> 'Save me...

>   save me from Tomorrow..

>    I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...!'  

>

> --- On Fri, 7/25/08, Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> wrote:

>

> From: Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>

> Subject: Re: [kj] OT -- Sex Pis.. -- now, working at the Bank

> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"

> <gathering at misera.net>

> Date: Friday, July 25, 2008, 9:15 PM

>

> If you put your money under the mattress inflation will erode it to death,

> if you want security you could put it into govt-backed bonds, into the

> bank, into real estate, or precious metals, or a combination. There's some

> degree of risk in everything really...but sitting on cash for years just

> erodes its value as inflation whittles away your buying power, the

> opposite to how compounding interest gradually increases it.

>

> "Money makes money and the money money makes makes money"

>

> ;p

>

> I personally have no issues being interested in money because the way I

> see it money is similar to karma in some ways. It can represent your hard

> work, thrift and savings, your study and experience, it can provide

> opportunity, it can come as a result of negative or positive behaviour, or

> luck, and can be used similarly...to me it has an energy or karma value to

> it and it's not just dirty or base by default at all.

>

>>

>> i dont think pensions are all cut out to what they used to be,you put a

>> certain amount awqay eac h month,for x amount of years,statistics

>> predict

>> that the final return on yours or anyones pensions will be considerable

>> less than what was originally predicted to you from your adviser,its all

>> a

>> bloody con,but what is the alternative? shove yu money under the matress

>> ;D))) well atleast if we al do that,we wont get flucked over by the

>> banks!

>>

>> how about an isa?  slightly more secure than a pension i hear,but not

>> much

>> ;(  any idears?> Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:40:21 +0100> From:

>> ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re:

> [kj] OT

>> -- Sex Pis.. -- now, working at the Bank> > LOL - spot-on! I have

>> pension-related shit to deal with at the mo. NOOOOOO!!!!!!> >

>> -----Original Message-----> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net>

>> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Janean Lancaster>

> Sent:

>> 25 July 2008 14:38> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the

> band!)>

>> Subject: Re: [kj] OT -- Sex Pis.. -- now, working at the Bank> >

>> <<< I'm

>> glad I'm too gormless, when it comes to money-matters >>>>

>> God, me too.

>> When I get a letter from the bank about my mortgage, I go> crossed-eyed

>> and stuff it into a box where it can't hurt me anymore.> > >

>>

>> -----Original Message-----> > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net>

>> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]> > On Behalf Of ade> >

> Sent: 25 July

>> 2008 14:32> > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the

> band!)> >

>> Subject: Re: [kj] OT -- Sex Pis.. -- now, working at the Bank> >

>> > Very

>> interesting Pat-ster - I'm glad I'm too gormless, when it

> comes> > to

>> money-matters, to get involved in this sort of thing!> > > > I

> think

>> Brenda is doing his best to keep a balance - respect to him> > that

> he's

>> *consciously* doing so.> > > > I think one of the reasons why

> everyday UK

>> folk are playing stocks &> > shares nowadays, is not only that

> it's easier

>> on-line, but also that> > we all need to provide for our futures

> (kids

>> futures, etc.) in the> > likelihood that relying on a state pension

> will

>> simply put us all> > on the breadline (as we see pensioners

> suffering all

>> around us).> > > > > > > > -----Original

> Message-----> > From:

>> gathering-bounces at misera.net> >

> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On

>> Behalf Of iPat> > Sent: 25 July 2008 14:15> > To: A list about

> all things

>> Killing Joke (the band!)> > Subject: Re: [kj] OT -- Sex Pis.. --

> now,

>> working at the Bank> > > > > > the stock exchange works

> on making profit,

>> and there are three main> > levels of risk. If you want your monies

> put

>> into eco friendly stock> > then the returns are very low. So stocks

> tend

>> to be invested in high> > return areas which also tend to be the

> problems

>> in the world. obvious> > i know.> > > > So what if you

> one makes a good

>> return but has invested in a company> > that promotes women to

> revert to

>> powered milk rather than their own> > breast milk in third world

>> countries. Maybe the companies invest> > heavily in vivisection to

> produce

>> cosmetics or maybe the returns come> > from arm sales. Perhaps the

>> companies profits are coming from beef> > sales to keep up with

> glutenous

>> fast food consumption which comes> > around from deforestation>

>> > > It

>> was the protection and stability of those markets that was one of> >

> the

>> major driving forces in the iraq invasion.> > > > Now im not

> saying that

>> you musnt do this or that, im merely pointing> > out that if you

> think

>> that you wil escape the rat race by this then i> > think you are

> deluding

>> yourself. Thats your call.> > > > On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 3:16

> AM, Brendan

>> <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>> wrote:> > > All of my money is

> invested in

>> stocks already, I'm playing the> system I> > > suppose.

> Working with these

>> traders has been a real fast track to> > learning> > >

> about investments,

>> they are all mad about markets and talk about it> all> > > day

> long. It's

>> a total win / win, ask them questions and they are> all> >

> mad> > > keen

>> on talking about it. I listen to glean info and then go home> and

> do> > >

>> some research online in between watching hippie videos and smoking>

> ganga>

>> > > ;) Actually I gave my old boss a stock tip last year that he

> did>

>> really> > > well on.> >

> _______________________________________________> >

>> Gathering mailing list> > Gathering at misera.net> >

>> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering> > > >

>> >

>> _______________________________________________> > Gathering mailing

> list>

>> > Gathering at misera.net> >

>> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering>

>> _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing

> list>

>> Gathering at misera.net>

> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering>

>> > > _______________________________________________> Gathering

> mailing

>> list> Gathering at misera.net>

>> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering

>> _________________________________________________________________

>> Find the best and worst places on the planet

>>

> http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/101719807/direct/01/_______________________________________________

>> Gathering mailing list

>> Gathering at misera.net

>> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering

>>

>

>

> _______________________________________________

> Gathering mailing list

> Gathering at misera.net

> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering

>

>

>       _______________________________________________

> Gathering mailing list

> Gathering at misera.net

> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering

>