[kj] raise a glass...

[jpwhkj at aol.com]

Gatherers,

Raise a glass to the latest addition to my clan - Alexandra Hepburn, born yesterday morning, mother and daughter both fine.

Cheers,

Jamie


-----Original Message-----
From: ade <ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 17:54
Subject: Re: [kj] CRASS commercialism!



Chomski thinks his shit through, considers ramifications & knows the world revolves around pros

& cons, not ideals. I think Rimbaud is a tad keen to throw 'right-on'-isms about, relying on slogans,

etc. Nevertheless, I think his idealistic view is more tempered these days, which appeals to me. I

think more of us truth- searching, wrong-hating, esoteric types identify with Rimbaud, 'cos he's really

just a Pub Philosopher, whereas Chomsky *seems* to actually know how the world works!

 

People will always buy shit from celebrities, no matter what their politics, or common sense in this

case.


-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of folk devil
Sent: 03 June 2008 17:20
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] CRASS commercialism!


Not really what I was referring to, and I don't really see them as exceptional people in the context of them corresponding with people who write to them, although appreciated. 
I just find Chomski's work a little more comprehensive and prolific, in relation to Rimbaud. 
I agree on the absurdity of the sale.
 



> Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 10:46:51 -0500

> From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Subject: Re: [kj] CRASS commercialism!

> 

> They are in the same category of "people that are still alive" and who 

> are "absurdly easy to get in touch" with or get letters from. Both Penny 

> and Chomsky have a policy of writing most folks back who take the time 

> to write the, (Well, I know Chomsky officially does -- he spends 20 

> hours per week writing people back who write him, considers it part of 

> his job). Penny and other "real" DIY punk folks are the same way. Both 

> subscribe to a kind of anti-elitist anarchist ethos and are against 

> being inaccessible superstars, insulated from the public, etc.

> 

> So selling high priced letters by them on eBay is pretty absurd, like 

> they're Avril Lavigne or something. That's why I mention the two, 

> because it's especially absurd to sell a letter at a high price from any 

> of them hn they MAKE A POINT of answering most if not all 

> correspondence,an it's not like hey are dead people. Yet.

> 

> -Oliver

> 

> 

> folk devil wrote:

> > I am not sure I'd put Penny Rimbaud and Chomski in the same category.

> > 

> >

> >

> > > Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 10:10:57 -0500

> > > From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net

> > > To: gathering at misera.net

> > > Subject: [kj] CRASS commercialism!

> > >

> > > http://www.cultpunk.com/?p=350

> > >

> > > Letter from Penny Rimbaud, "only" $70 on eBay!

> > >

> > > HAHAHAHAHAHA

> > >

> > > -Oliver

> > >

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