[kj] Congrats Obama
The Exorcist
killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com
Wed Jun 4 19:46:27 EDT 2008
Naaaa, Israel is the next that needs to be wiped out. Those brutal
brutal people.
It seems that many in the UN find plenty of stuff to go after them
and raise their voices.
Darfur, Mugwaba and other regions/dictators can wait.
Besides, HBO first needs to make "Recount II: the Mugwaba story".
Cheers,
Me
At 06:11 PM 6/4/2008, Mik Raven wrote:
>Is it just me, or does eveyone forget how Saddam was a genosidal
>despot who was quite happy to massacre his own people? Should the
>world sit back and let genoside go unpunished? I know there are
>other leaders round the world just as bad, and yes, you can use the
>ol argument, but you have to start somewhere. Robert Mugwabwa next? lol.
>
>
>
>
>On Wed Jun 4 22:24 , 'Karen Weil' <karen.weil at sddt.com> sent:
>
>You're spot on in your historic analysis, B. Oliver. Don't even get me
>started on the U.S. history with Saddam ...
>
>k.w.
>San Diego
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>From: "B. Oliver Sheppard" <bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net>
>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
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>Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 2:06 PM
>Subject: Re: [kj] Congrats Obama
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>
> > Yeah, Saddam was a thug, but a secular thug, not a religious zealot or
> > Jihadist. he likened himself more to Stalin than to any sort of holy
> > warrior, and thrugh his heavy hand prevented what the US invasion
> > unleashed. In fact, most will probably remember Saddam's right-hand man
> > Tariq Aziz was a Catholic, not even a Muslim.
> >
> > Bin laden and Saddam were at sword points. Bin Laden wanted the ungodly
> > secular regime of Saddam destroyed so that he and his zealots could
> > restore the historic Islamic caliphate to the country. Everyone always
> > asked "Why did bin laden attack the US? What does he want/ WHAT DOES HE
> > WANT?" When bn Laden qute clearly announced in message after message what
> > his demands were. These were and are readily available, translated into
> > English, and newspaper printed them.
> >
> > People in the US apparently did read them, because they preferred to think
> > bin Laden jst "hated freedom" or something. In fact, bin Laden's 3 demands
> > were 1) removal of US bases from Saudi Arabia [which he got, so that's one
> > for Osama] 2) end of US support for Israel, and 3) restoration of Islamic
> > caliphate to its historic place in Baghdad. Bin Laden has one out of 3 of
> > these already, and he's closer to getting the 3rd one now than he was when
> > Hussein kept bin Laden's group, as well as the Kurds and others,
> > suppressed.
> >
> > Now that Turkey, a US ally, is suppressing the Kurds, it's okay. But
> > Saddam doing it? What an evil man.
> >
> > -Oliver
> >
> > ade wrote:
> >> You know, Saddam was already dealing with religious unrest, bombings,
> >> etc, on his own soil. The ironic outcome being that he was much nearer to
> >> being on 'our' side when it came to Islamist nutfucks terrorising.
> >> Whereas
> >> the void will now be filled by well established battle-hardened Islamist
> >> nutfucks. We've trained them up...
> >>
> >>
> >
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