[kj] No worries

[The Exorcist]

WERD!

At 01:31 PM 6/26/2008, ade wrote:

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>Seig Heil, motherfucker!

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>From: gathering-bounces at misera.net 

>[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of The Exorcist

>Sent: 26 June 2008 18:27

>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>Subject: Re: [kj] No worries

>

>Karen doesn't. I do!

>

>At 01:22 PM 6/26/2008, Karen Weil wrote:

>>Hi, sir.

>>Don't think you're a Nazi in way, shape or form. Like the term, 

>>"dead agenting," by the way. Clever.

>>Stick to your beliefs and speak your mind.

>>And, to quote a great R&B song, "Keep On Truckin'"!

>>

>>Cheers,

>>

>>k.w.

>>----- Original Message -----

>>From: <mailto:ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk>ade

>>To: <mailto:gathering at misera.net>A list about all things Killing 

>>Joke (the band!)

>>Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 6:22 AM

>>Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Mugabe loses the opposition..

>>

>>Well, I have said before that the left & right are just as bad as 

>>each other & they're both about

>>exclusion. I never stick up for the right, but people seem to think 

>>that disagreeing with the lefty

>>view instantly makes one a goose-stepping nazi! This is one of the 

>>big issues of the west today.

>>Constant 'dead agenting' of those who disagree.

>>

>>I'm bitter at having been a deluded lefty, whereas now I try to 

>>ignore all that dogma.

>>

>>I totally agree everything should be done on merit.

>>

>>To be honest I don't even know why I get so involved in these 

>>threads - one part of me is all for

>>the debate, another is just sick of it! Maybe I'm not as cynical as 

>>I imagine. Fuck it, who knows!

>>

>>Can't stand injustice, I think !

>>-----Original Message-----

>>From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ 

>>mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Karen Weil

>>Sent: 25 June 2008 19:14

>>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>>Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Mugabe loses the opposition..

>>

>>Ade :

>>

>>Um, first off, I'm definitely not a leftist, ade.

>>And I have not the slightest interest in forcing my views on anyone 

>>else. I don't consider valuing freedom and respect for the U.S. 

>>Constitution as being in the minority.

>>Yes, the Left is plenty guilty of hypocrisy. But so is the Right.

>>So I'm afraid you're off-base there, but I'm not interested in 

>>"getting" you, either.

>>Nevertheless, I enjoy your thoughtful, sharp arguments. Carry on!

>>

>>k.w.

>>----- Original Message -----

>>From: <mailto:ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk>ade

>>To: <mailto:gathering at misera.net>A list about all things Killing 

>>Joke (the band!)

>>Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 1:54 AM

>>Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Mugabe loses the opposition..

>>

>>Hmmm.. aaaah... you sorta got me there! Really though, they're all 

>>as bad as each other & until something is done about changing the 

>>rules of the game, we're all pissing in the wind.

>>

>>You *do* realise that people that hold values like you & I are in 

>>the minority, right? We *are* simply a minority trying to force our 

>>ideal vision of a way of life onto the majority that couldn't care 

>>less. Think about how that fits in with a democratic system. The 

>>Greeks invented democracy, only to then vote in favour of numerous 

>>wars, to enrich Greece. Irony!!!

>>

>>Often we just have to put up with SHIT - shouting at the person 

>>that points out these truths only causes resentment & opens the 

>>door to extremism. Living with the reality that the world is full 

>>of horrors is part of life, it doesn't mean you don't care. You can 

>>often tell an extremist because they'll say anyone who has accepted 

>>the status quo has given up (more infighting, which makes 'average 

>>voter' even less interested). But extremists only bring extremes 

>>with them... revolution anyone? Shall we guillotine those that 

>>'deserve it', ie Bush, et al? Not very compatible with the 'caring 

>>image' is it.

>>

>>The left doesn't live by its' own rules. I'd hear the rhetoric 

>>coming out of my mouth, but in the back of my mind I started to 

>>think "that isn't actually workable". The words can often be an 

>>'acceptable' form of hate. Well, acceptable within one's own clan 

>>anyway. Neither the left or the right stand for 'truth'.

>>

>>Have a good morning/evening/weekend/bike-ride, etc.

>>

>>ade.

>>Black Country

>>-----Original Message-----

>>From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ 

>>mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Karen Weil

>>Sent: 25 June 2008 01:15

>>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>>Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Mugabe loses the opposition..

>>

>>Uh, yeah -- I get that.

>>But Jimmy Carter isn't president any more , OK?

>>

>>k.w.

>>San Diego

>>----- Original Message -----

>>From: <mailto:ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk>ade

>>To: <mailto:gathering at misera.net>A list about all things Killing 

>>Joke (the band!)

>>Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 4:34 PM

>>Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Mugabe loses the opposition..

>>

>>Karen, I think it's more to do with trying to point out that lefty 

>>heroes can be just as bad...

>>-----Original Message-----

>>From: 

>><mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net>gathering-bounces at misera.net [ 

>>mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Karen Weil

>>Sent: 25 June 2008 00:29

>>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>>Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Mugabe loses the opposition..

>>

>>Yes, that truly horrendous judgement on Carter's part -- equally 

>>horrendous is the U.S. government's funding Saddam Hussein for a 

>>decade, when the evidence that he was a full-blown psycho was in, early.

>>Wow, you must really hate Carter, huh?

>>

>>k.w.

>>----- Original Message -----

>>From: <mailto:killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com>The Exorcist

>>To: <mailto:gathering at misera.net>A list about all things Killing 

>>Joke (the band!)

>>Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 4:01 PM

>>Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Mugabe loses the opposition..

>>But scum who was endorsed and promoted by Jimmy Carter. (Notice how 

>>Jimmy doesn't say a thing about zimbabwe?)

>>Googling "Jimmy carter mugabe" has quite a bit of links. :)

>>Cheers,

>>Me

>>At 03:18 PM 6/23/2008, ade wrote:

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>>>It's the only way to stop the violence. Let's face it, even if 

>>>Tsvangirai won, Mugabe wouldn't give up his position anyway, so 

>>>the whole thing is a joke.

>>>

>>>Absolute scum of the earth, mate.

>>>-----Original Message-----

>>>From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ 

>>>mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of folk devil

>>>Sent: 23 June 2008 20:07

>>>To: gathering at misera.net

>>>Subject: [kj] [OT] Mugabe loses the opposition..

>>>

>>>What the hell?

>>>"HARARE, Zimbabwe - Zimbabwe's opposition leader has fled to the 

>>>Dutch Embassy saying he feared for his safety, while police on 

>>>Monday raided his party's headquarters and took about 60 people away.

>>>Morgan Tsvangirai went to the embassy Sunday shortly after 

>>>announcing he was withdrawing from Friday's presidential runoff 

>>>against longtime leader Robert Mugabe, citing violence against 

>>>opposition supporters, a Dutch Foreign Ministry spokesman said."

>>>

>>><http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080623/ap_on_re_af/zimbabwe;_ylt=ArfdJ1exyqEfrvAN_4xkw4as0NUE>http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080623/ap_on_re_af/zimbabwe;_ylt=ArfdJ1exyqEfrvAN_4xkw4as0NUE 

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>We cannot allow the fittest to survive on our pages. Your loss is someone

>else's gain, and your gain is someone else's loss. Therefore, losers 

>contribute

>to the society and winners take away from it. Being a winner is 

>unethical, while

>a society of losers is happy and striving as a collective. In the 

>spirit of diversity,

>inclusiveness, and collectivism our contests shall have no winners.

>Everyone is declared a loser, which in our book means an ethical team player.

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Competition is a barbaric, insensitive ritual that reeks of social Darwinism.
We cannot allow the fittest to survive on our pages. Your loss is someone
else's gain, and your gain is someone else's loss. Therefore, losers contribute
to the society and winners take away from it. Being a winner is 
unethical, while
a society of losers is happy and striving as a collective. In the 
spirit of diversity,
inclusiveness, and collectivism our contests shall have no winners.
Everyone is declared a loser, which in our book means an ethical team player.  
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