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Welcome Back!!

 A L P

--- Alexi Hamilton <alexih at hotmail.com> wrote:


> 

>    Well, kids, I'm back after lots of life changes

> and such.  I totally forgot that I e-mailed Andy to

> put me back on the list a couple of days ago and,

> VOILA!  There's 368 e-mails waiting for me!  I

> missed you guys!  

>     Anyway, one other reason I got back on the list

> was the chatter around that the original KJ lineup

> is back in action WITH none other than Big Paul

> Ferguson!!!  I'm sure you guys have talked

> tirelessly about this MONTHS ago but, like I said, I

> JUST got back a few days ago so I'm still smiling

> like a loon about the news!  Anyway, its good to be

> back.

>  

> ~Alexi in OKC

> 

> Sprinting along the freeway, brandishing a meaty

> axe, cometh Alexi! And she gives a bloodthirsty

> scream:

> "Brace yourself, oh human speck of dust! I bring

> darkness and mayhem like a four-year-old on a sugar

> rampage!!!"   

> 

> 

> From: mik at corvids.eclipse.co.ukTo:

> gathering at misera.netDate: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 23:07:08

> +0000Subject: Re: [kj] ot: We Want Everyone -

> Facebook & The New American Right

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> I can not think of a time in human history, even

> going back to stone age when man wasn’t fucking over

> his fellow man. Survival of the fittest and all

> that. I used to dream of that perfect world where

> people were nice to each other and everyone could be

> trusted. Then I grew up.

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> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net

> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of

> GREG SLAWSONSent: 18 March 2008 22:23To: A list

> about all things Killing Joke (the band!)Subject:

> Re: [kj] ot: We Want Everyone - Facebook & The New

> American Right

>  

> Case in point: Most of human history (before 

> classes existed) involved far more sharing and

> cooperation than nastiness and fucking people over.

> Other case in point: In situations where people have

> little time to think or even act on how they have

> been socialized, e.g. disaters, many people go as

> far as taking big risks to help others. So why not

> try to work for societies where this behavior is

> allowed to flourish (after a revolution, b/c

> capitalism makes too many reasons why it can't)... 

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> Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 20:30:18 +0000From:

> ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.ukTo:

> gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] ot: We Want

> Everyone - Facebook & The New American Right

> 

> > As long as people can profit from fucking up other

> people, they will!

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> 

> So, really this goes much further than corporates,

> crapitalism & all that, surely? If mankind is happy

> to fuck itself over, well, maybe all the nastiness

> that mankind metes out is going to hapooen one way

> or another, no matter what system is in place?

> Surely it's easier for everyone to just blame the

> 'bad man' instead of facing up to mankinds' ability

> to be very GOOD & very BAD?

> 

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> 

> Sadly, revolution just replaces one bunch of

> controllers with another.

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> -----Original Message-----From:

> gathering-bounces at misera.net

> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of

> GREG SLAWSONSent: 18 March 2008 03:28To: A list

> about all things Killing Joke (the band!)Subject:

> Re: [kj] ot: We Want Everyone - Facebook & The New

> American Right

> Thanks for the compliment, Brendan. That was a good

> post. And what you're saying even goes beyond

> advertising. I've heard that 2 of the most

> profitable things in the world are prostitution and

> illegal drugs, which aren't even advertised...As

> long as people can profit from fucking up other

> people, they will! (Of course I don't have to add

> the tag about revolution--y'all know that

> already).P.S> RIP Mikey Dread!> From:

> bq at soundgardener.co.nz> To: gathering at misera.net>

> Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 12:06:01 +1300> Subject: Re:

> [kj] ot: We Want Everyone - Facebook & The New

> American Right> > Yeah I hear you, but I just think

> that the negative social messages> portrayed by

> corporates and the press (same thing) that I'm

> talking about> are too intrusive, and the target

> audience is too vulnerable. > > Does it not bother

> you that you drive through the city and practically>

> wherever you are, you can't avoid catching

> billboards featuring the most> beautiful people they

> can find, surgically enhanced, gymmed up, fake tan,>

> expensive clothes, expensive photoshoot,

> photoshopped...who can live up to> that?! And the

> messages they portray, the smug aloof superior looks

> on their> faces..."This shit is exclusive! Only top

> grade pussy wears Gucci...you> could never interest

> anyone that sexy..." > > We're fucking devolving,

> maaaaaan.> > And what is the alternative? Cities

> could be made to actually look> beautiful, messages

> could be positive messages about US as opposed to US

> vs> THEM (the beautiful people vs the masses...the

> rich vs the poor, the> discerning vs the plain, the

> popular vs the losers, the SPECIAL vs the drab)> >

> The statistics are overwhelming...the amount of ads

> on children's tv for> nutritionless harmful

> super-sweet food vs healthy food that will actually>

> benefit them in some way, the bullshit collaboration

> between the press and> govt / corporate lobby

> groups, the OWNERSHIP of the press by corporates

> with> no social responsibility, etc etc. It's all

> very well saying 'hey you can> opt out at any time'

> but it's not that easy. (I just gave my telly away,>

> that helped a lot). I've seen it intensify since I

> was a kid...back in the> day when I was a kid the

> telly wanted to sell me sports equipment, lego and>

> other toys that would actually enhance my learning,

> and yes, plastic pieces> of shit at McDonalds and

> junk food, now kids are getting pressure to have a>

> cellphone, dress like an adult way before they are

> out of childhood, behave> like the vapid actors and

> actresses on the faux reality-tv programmes about>

> spoiled LA brats...> > NOTHING TO SAY!> > (Olly

> where are you when I need you hippie, back me up

> here I've gone out on> a limb and I'm starting to

> invent words to bloster my argument. Or Greg,>

> you're completely wrong about Soundgarden but you're

> the leftist of the> bunch, you're needed at the

> front! ;) > > > -----Original Message-----> From:

> gathering-bounces at misera.net

> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On> Behalf Of

> ade> Sent: Tuesday, 18 March 2008 11:30 a.m.> To: A

> list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)>

> Subject: Re: [kj] ot: We Want Everyone - Facebook &

> The New American Right> > Dude, if people want to be

> smug fucking thin-veneered shallow motherfuckers,>

> what's new??!! Ooh, I've got a lifestyle, I've got a

> fancy car, etc, etc.> That's THEM. Don't *just*

> blame consumerism - people like that would do it>

> anyway... sometimes I think the lefty point of view

> just doesn't get that> *many* people are vile !!!!

> Ooh, let's all cuddle-up & send bad vibes to> the

> corporates - lol !!!> > Don't you see that this is

> all about human communication? Constantly> evolving.

> The pendulum swings both ways... as do you! ;)> >

> -----Original Message-----> From:

> gathering-bounces at misera.net>

> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of

> Brendan Quinn> Sent: 17 March 2008 22:19> To: 'A

> list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'>

> Subject: Re: [kj] ot: We Want Everyone - Facebook &

> The New American> Right> > > A lot of us went dark

> at that Manic twat for trying to sell us his>

> merchandise when this list was created for KJ fans

> to discuss KJ etc...so I> suppose you could say

> Facebook conjures in some people a similar>

> sentiment...although I agree the circumstances are a

> bit different. One of> the author's main gripes is

> the cynical commodititisation,> electronification,

> and distancification of basic human interaction, if

> you> follow my invented words. The popularity

> contest with friends lists, that's> the kind of

> stuff that REALLY gets on my goat, personally. I

> mean what,> aren't all the bullshit messages on

> billboards, tv, magazines, movies etc> enough to

> convince us that life is all about material wealth,

> populatiry,> and physical beauty?! The message is so

> overwhelmingly> prevalent...personally it disgusts

> me. Some areas seem to be chock full of> people all

> with the perfect haircut, sunglasses, clothes, car

> etc, and they> just radiate smug / superior. It's

> sickly. I could easily turn into one of> those

> people if I wanted, but why? I'd quite honestly

> prefer hanging out> with EMOs :)> > Re. the sale of

> personal information to corporates (personal

> information> such as bands you like, your location,

> age, gender, etc). I think he has a> point, and I

> think it's relevant to discuss the motives of the

> creators of> Facebook too. He may have gone a bit

> rabid on it...perhaps.> > In terms of conspiracy

> 'theories'...a question: When a conspiracy theory>

> becomes a conspiracy reality...do people take

> notice? Another question...how> many people think

> that Kennedy was assassinated by Lee Harvey Oswald?

> How> many people with any basic understanding of

> physics, think that...?> > As Bill Hicks said...Back

> and to the left...back and to the left...> >

> -----Original Message-----> From:

> gathering-bounces at misera.net

> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On> Behalf Of

> ade> Sent: Tuesday, 18 March 2008 10:16 a.m.> To: A

> list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)>

> Subject: Re: [kj] ot: We Want Everyone - Facebook &

> The New American Right> > Pat-ster,> > I'm surprised

> you can't see just what a heap of sh!t that

> so-called> article is. Wow - big money people invest

> in things that could be big.> NOT ONCE have I had to

> divulge any information such as purchasing>

> preferences, ID card details (what fucking ID

> card??? Is he writing> from the future???), etc, to

> Facebook HQ whilst setting up or using> my account.

> I find it useful to keep in touch with people from

> work.> Neither have I had to divulge anything to

> Myspace - I have a load of> Myspace pages for music

> projects. It's somewhere to upload mp3's!> > And if

> you think I'm blind to it, a) I'm *proper* paranoid,

> lol &> b) I'm a 'techie' - I don't just sign up for

> anything. I don't want> the scum to know ANYTHING.

> In fact, I rarely register for *anything*> on the

> web.> > Now, did you post that turd? I bet they'll

> be x-raying the package.> They're watching you...

> ;)> > > ade.> > -----Original Message-----> From:

> gathering-bounces at misera.net>

> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of

> iPat> Sent: 17 March 2008 18:22> To: A list about

> all things Killing Joke (the band!)> Subject: Re:

> [kj] ot: We Want Everyone - Facebook & The New

> American> Right> > > A shame i wasted my useful time

> reading that email> i wonder if i could pen a

> patronising bit of drivvel as well> > Who knows,

> maybe e can get some prick to autograph it, though

> it might> hide behind pseudonyms to give itself a

> false platform of> intelligence.> > ill call it> >

> "a fart under the covers"> > off now, feel a shit

> coming on. I ll send it somewhere.> > On Mon, Mar

> 17, 2008 at 4:23 PM, The Exorcist>

> <killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com> wrote:> >> > A

> shame I wasted my useful time reading that crap.> >

> I wonder if I ought to pen a long article about that

> as well!> >> > Who knows, maybe I can have Mr. Tom

> Hodgkinson autograph it. Though he'll> > probably

> use a> > false signature to avoid detection... Just

> in case.... Ya know?> >> > I'll call it> >> > "Angry

> male who sees conspiracies everywhere and despises

> successful> people> > who have> > different

> political views than he does".> >> > Maybe I'll

> submit it to The Guaridan as well. I've heard that

> they like> to> > publish some really crappy

> articles.> >> >> iPat>

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