From angrytomhanks at yahoo.com  Sat Nov  1 00:53:56 2008
From: angrytomhanks at yahoo.com (Leigh Newton)
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 21:53:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [kj] Joaquin Phoenix quits film to work in music
Message-ID: <10078.13729.qm@web65715.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>

I think Signs was a piece of shit from start to finish. The stupid ending only put a period on the sentence and that sentence reads as follows: Hi, I'm the stupidest fucking movie ever made.

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From: folk devil <folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com>
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 I think the ending of signs totally trashed the film. Nice idea, bad execution.

" 
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To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 12:42:43 -0400
Subject: Re: [kj] Joaquin Phoenix quits film to work in music

Going a little deeper in the hippie parent's thing, his sister's name is Summer Phoenix. 

I think he's a pretty good actor, opposite to you i do like "Signs" (the end may be bad, but the suspense along all the movie -just before the end- is awesome. Besides i love the UFO-Alien movies/topics), still his acting isn't very remarkable in this one. He was ok in 8mm, but on the other hand he was very good in Gladiator -he made a great tyrant- and in his role as Johnny Cash was very nice too. 

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Date : Sat, 1 Nov 2008 01:38:50 +1300 (NZDT)

>From : "Brendan" <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>

To : "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)" <gathering at misera.net>



Random comment, but has anyone noticed how fucked his shoulders are? Dunno 

if it's congenital or what, but must cause a bit of pain. 



Actually I can't think of a good movie I've seen him in. That Mel Gibson 

alien thing was shit, that one where he's a drug smuggler in the 

army...that was shit...still I don't think he's a bad actor. I musta seen 

him in something... 



> 

> It's his real name -- brother of the late River Phoenix. His parents 

> were silly hippies. 

> 

> Alex in NYC 

> 

> 

> On Oct 31, 2008, at 5:24 AM, Brendan wrote: 

> 

>> I don't mind Phoenix, (although his name sounds like a semi ridiculous 

>> stage name, if it's not I stand corrected), but I thought him doing 

>> Johnny 

>> Cash was a bit luke warm to be honest. 

>> 

>>> Joaquin ---> Johnny ---> Jaz next? 

>>> 

>>> First he plays Johnny Cash, now he's quitting films forever to go 

>>> into 

>>> music. 

>>> If only he could portray Jaz in the (now shelved?) KJ film in the 

>>> works. 

>>> 

>>> Joaquin Phoenix 

>>> http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/joaquinphoenix_blog.html 

>>> vid 

>>> http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b65859_Joaquin_Phoenix_Calls_It_a_Career_.html 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> ... ... ... ... ... ... 

>>> 

>>> [looking at the current state of things..] 

>>> 

>>> 'Save me... 

>>> save me from Tomorrow.. 

>>> I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...' 

>>> 

>>> 

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From concrete_cookie at hotmail.com  Sat Nov  1 03:46:37 2008
From: concrete_cookie at hotmail.com (Concrete Cookie)
Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 00:46:37 -0700
Subject: [kj] I quit work to work in music
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bah...

It'd be nice....  Although I might be laid off soon...so who knows!

What about Benicio Del Toro as Jaz? ;)


Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 19:31:01 -0700
From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] Joaquin Phoenix quits film to work in music




P.S.:

 
On a much more neurotic, "alternative/indie," or "querky"-neurotic-edgy angle,
there's..
 
Alan Cummings or PeeWee Herman as Youth
Glen Rockwell or Ed Norton as Geordie
and Nicholas Cage* as Jaz Coleman
 
*or, Ben Stiller or 
     Robert Carlyle [think Begbie in Trainspotting..], 
 
 
 
... ... ... ... ... ... 

[looking at the current state of things..]
 
'Save me...
  save me from Tomorrow..
    I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'   
 






From: sade1 <saulomar1 at yahoo.com>
To: gathering <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 7:11:53 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] Joaquin Phoenix quits film to work in music





That is pretty close.
 
For a younger Geordie, maybe 
(a blond) Hugh Jackman as Geordie http://www.everyguy.com/images/hugh_jackman/hugh_jackman5_eg.jpg
and either John Cusack or Mike Myers as Youth.

 
... ... ... ... ... ... 

[looking at the current state of things..]
 
'Save me...
  save me from Tomorrow..
    I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'   
 






From: Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 12:34:54 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] Joaquin Phoenix quits film to work in music




Always thought Geordie looked like actor Charles Dance:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/drama/content/images/2007/04/19/charles_dance_396x222.jpg
 
http://www.virginmedia.com/images/charlesdance-gal-shinealight.jpg
 
Alex in NYC



 
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Sent: Oct 31, 2008 3:14 PM 
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I'd cast Joacquin Phoenix as Jaz in an imaginary biopic, and John Stamos as Big Paul; 
Keanu Reeves can be Youth, Tim Curry would be Paul Raven and a young Rutger Hauer as Geordie.
 
 
... ... ... ... ... ... 

[looking at the current state of things..]
 
'Save me...
  save me from Tomorrow..
    I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'   
 






From: Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 2:24:43 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] Joaquin Phoenix quits film to work in music

I don't mind Phoenix, (although his name sounds like a semi ridiculous
stage name, if it's not I stand corrected), but I thought him doing Johnny
Cash was a bit luke warm to be honest.

> Joaquin ---> Johnny ---> Jaz next?
>
> First he plays Johnny Cash, now he's quitting films forever to go into
> music.
> If only he could portray Jaz in the (now shelved?) KJ film in the works.
>
> Joaquin Phoenix http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/joaquinphoenix_blog.html
> vid
> http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b65859_Joaquin_Phoenix_Calls_It_a_Career_.html
>  
>
> ... ... ... ... ... ...
>
> [looking at the current state of things..]
>  
> 'Save me...
>   save me from Tomorrow..
>     I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'  
>
>
>
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From saulomar1 at yahoo.com  Sat Nov  1 04:08:59 2008
From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com (sade1)
Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 01:08:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [kj] I quit work to work in music
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> What about Benicio Del Toro as Jaz? ;)

Oh yeah, another good actor (Benicio).? From Che' to Jaz, that's quite a range.

And I hope your job keeps you, or else! 

?
... ... ... ... ... ... 

[looking at the current?state of things..]
?
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? save me?from Tomorrow..
??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? 





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From: Concrete Cookie <concrete_cookie at hotmail.com>
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Sent: Saturday, November 1, 2008 12:46:37 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] I quit work to work in music

bah...

It'd be nice....? Although I might be laid off soon...so who knows!

What about Benicio Del Toro as Jaz? ;)


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Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 19:31:01 -0700
From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] Joaquin Phoenix quits film to work in music


P.S.:
?
On a much more neurotic, "alternative/indie," or "querky"-neurotic-edgy angle,
there's..
?
Alan Cummings or PeeWee Herman as Youth
Glen Rockwell or Ed Norton?as Geordie
and Nicholas Cage* as Jaz Coleman
?
*or, Ben Stiller or 
???? Robert?Carlyle [think Begbie in Trainspotting..],?



... ... ... ... ... ... 

[looking at the current?state of things..]
?
'Save me...
? save me?from Tomorrow..
??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? 





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From: sade1 <saulomar1 at yahoo.com>
To: gathering <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 7:11:53 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] Joaquin Phoenix quits film to work in music


That is pretty close.

For a younger Geordie, maybe 
(a blond) Hugh Jackman as Geordie http://www.everyguy.com/images/hugh_jackman/hugh_jackman5_eg.jpg
and either John Cusack or Mike Myers as Youth.

?
... ... ... ... ... ... 

[looking at the current?state of things..]
?
'Save me...
? save me?from Tomorrow..
??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? 





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From: Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 12:34:54 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] Joaquin Phoenix quits film to work in music

Always thought Geordie looked like actor Charles Dance:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/drama/content/images/2007/04/19/charles_dance_396x222.jpg
?
http://www.virginmedia.com/images/charlesdance-gal-shinealight.jpg
?
Alex in NYC



?

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From: sade1 
Sent: Oct 31, 2008 3:14 PM 
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
Subject: Re: [kj] Joaquin Phoenix quits film to work in music 


I'd cast Joacquin Phoenix as Jaz in an imaginary biopic, and John Stamos as Big Paul; 
Keanu Reeves can be Youth, Tim Curry would?be Paul Raven and a?young Rutger Hauer as Geordie.
?

... ... ... ... ... ... 

[looking at the current?state of things..]
?
'Save me...
? save me?from Tomorrow..
??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? 





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From: Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 2:24:43 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] Joaquin Phoenix quits film to work in music

I don't mind Phoenix, (although his name sounds like a semi ridiculous
stage name, if it's not I stand corrected), but I thought him doing Johnny
Cash was a bit luke warm to be honest.

> Joaquin ---> Johnny ---> Jaz next?
>
> First he plays Johnny Cash, now he's quitting films forever to go into
> music.
> If only he could portray Jaz in the (now shelved?) KJ film in the works.
>
> Joaquin Phoenix http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/joaquinphoenix_blog.html
> vid
> http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b65859_Joaquin_Phoenix_Calls_It_a_Career_.html
> ?
>
> ... ... ... ... ... ...
>
> [looking at the current?state of things..]
> ?
> 'Save me...
> ? save me?from Tomorrow..
> ??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'??
>
>
>
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From wessidetempest at hotmail.com  Sat Nov  1 08:32:52 2008
From: wessidetempest at hotmail.com (Christof hamille)
Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 08:32:52 -0400
Subject: [kj] OT - The Damned @ The Late Late Show (Craig
	Ferguson)	10/30/2008
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The bass player isn't playing it right.  Which then sounds off.  I know it is modified so Dave won't be as disgusted (he has been noted of being tired of playing the "old hits" day after day) with the song but still.  That bass line is pretty crucial to that song.  At least Dave's plugs are staying in and I like the "proper" British gentleman complete with monocle and gloves.

And whatmakes it odder is that Captain originally played it.

At least Patricia isn't in the band.

Chris

To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:08:13 -0400
From: countessghoulita at aol.com
Subject: [kj] OT - The Damned @ The Late Late Show (Craig Ferguson)	10/30/2008

The Dammed will play tonight with The Adolescents at the HOB in LA:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kS-r-ir90sc



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From vassifer at earthlink.net  Sat Nov  1 09:09:46 2008
From: vassifer at earthlink.net (Alexander Smith)
Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 09:09:46 -0400
Subject: [kj] OT - The Damned @ The Late Late Show (Craig
	Ferguson)	10/30/2008
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Ways to improve this:

Ditch the keyboard player.
Bring back Rat Scabies.
Bring back Brian James
Put Dave on a diet.

Alex in NYC


On Nov 1, 2008, at 8:32 AM, Christof hamille wrote:

> The bass player isn't playing it right.  Which then sounds off.  I  
> know it is modified so Dave won't be as disgusted (he has been noted  
> of being tired of playing the "old hits" day after day) with the  
> song but still.  That bass line is pretty crucial to that song.  At  
> least Dave's plugs are staying in and I like the "proper" British  
> gentleman complete with monocle and gloves.
>
> And whatmakes it odder is that Captain originally played it.
>
> At least Patricia isn't in the band.
>
> Chris
>
> To: gathering at misera.net
> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:08:13 -0400
> From: countessghoulita at aol.com
> Subject: [kj] OT - The Damned @ The Late Late Show (Craig Ferguson)	 
> 10/30/2008
>
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>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kS-r-ir90sc
>
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From christophe.barry at wanadoo.fr  Sat Nov  1 12:49:08 2008
From: christophe.barry at wanadoo.fr (Christophe BARRY)
Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 17:49:08 +0100
Subject: [kj] Nice Streets Below: How We Wait in Europe
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Yeah, I know what you did 
 

You tried to kill us like that on last gig

 

Survivor Christophe

 

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De : gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] De
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Envoy? : mercredi 29 octobre 2008 04:46
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Objet : Re: [kj] Nice Streets Below: How We Wait in Europe

 

 
 Jamie, it wer'nt my fault, and i did say,leave it there!
 
 Deported bloke.




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To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:32:06 -0400
From: jpwhkj at aol.com
Subject: Re: [kj] Nice Streets Below: How We Wait in Europe

I think the question that you have to ask is what was he doing for the first
2 hours to merit the next 10 in a cell!




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Sent: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:27
Subject: Re: [kj] Nice Streets Below: How We Wait in Europe



Dank u wel for your input, Jerry. The Dutch are good people (but sorry about
your one experience there!) And I couldn't agree with you about judging an
entire group/city/nation, etc. based on the actions of a few jerks. It only
leads to no good.

 

Anyway, tot ziens!

 

k.w.

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From: jerry bodkin <mailto:jelbod at hotmail.co.uk>  

To: A list about <mailto:gathering at misera.net>  all things Killing Joke (the
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Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 12:48 AM

Subject: Re: [kj] Nice Streets Below: How We Wait in Europe

 

 
 Holland is a lovely country and the Dutch are a lovely people, ive been
there several times including once for just 12 hours(10 of them in a police
cell) but we'll leave that there! France too is a beautiful beautiful place
and the people there too are lovely once you make an effort with them. i.e.
try at least to speak the language. Give me Europe any day. Too often we
judge an entire race on individual behaviour, my God, what must most of the
world think of us English.
 
Jelala.






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> From: karen.weil at sddt.com
> To: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk; gathering at misera.net
> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 11:51:50 -0700
> Subject: Re: [kj] Nice Streets Below: How We Wait in Europe
> 
> Hi, Change:
> 
> Appreciate your thoughts on Belgium; it's a fine place. Germany also
offers 
> so much, and has a very strong avant-guarde scene.
> However, I have to take issue with your comments about the Dutch and 
> Europe. If anything, the Dutch have a totally different attitude when it 
> comes to languages; that's why so many of them speak three or four of
them. 
> Whatever differences they may have with their European neighbors; I really

> don't think the English issue plays a great role.
> And while Paris is outrageously expensive (I was there in May; and believe

> me, it was no fun coming from a country where the currency is in the 
> toilet!), I really can't agree with your observations about the French, 
> either. (Although I will concur about their love of Wire!)
> But at any rate, enjoy travelling -- veel plezier, as the Dutch say!
> 
> Groetjes,
> 
> k.w.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Change" <crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk>
> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
> <gathering at misera.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 5:53 AM
> Subject: [kj] Nice Streets Below: How We Wait in Europe
> 
> 
> > How nice it was to escape this ever more petty joke of a nation,
occupied 
> > as it has been by the USA since WW2. If you want to get away from this 
> > rotten island then a great place to go is Belgium. Its not too far by 
> > coach through the tunnel. Brussels is beautiful. The streets smell of 
> > coffee and chocolate, the people are jolly and kind and there is great
art 
> > everywhere. No wonder Colin and Malka made it their home. There are also

> > lots of Belgians with little noses straight out of a Tintin book. The
food 
> > and beer are amazing. I thought Brussels was wonderful but then I made
it 
> > to Ghent and was pretty damn glad the trams had been aborted by a flower

> > festival because I walked along the canal to get back to the station and

> > realised that this is architecturally the most beautiful city I have
seen. 
> > I haven't made it to Prague yet though! Antwerp looks like a low rent 
> > Barcelona copy, in the same way Manchester tries to be European but
always 
> > ends up looking like
> > a post-industrial dump. Tilberg is very boxy but the people were
partying 
> > hard and late and the Dutch all seem to think the rest of Europe is crap

> > just because they don't all speak perfect English! "Those crazy Dutch!" 
> > said Lewis but I can't remember why. Maybe it was something to do with
the 
> > hotel WIRE rejected in Tilburg. Margaret the guitarist said it was so 
> > grotty she didn't even want to put her bag down in it let alone sleep in

> > it!
> >
> > Berlin is a great place to explore, full of impressive sites and large 
> > enough to spend years there I'd warrant. Tiergarten is the largest and 
> > most lovely park I've ever strolled through. German venues also make a 
> > mockery of British ones in terms of the sound.
> >
> > Strasbourg has a fine market where I found a sabre for a mere twenty 
> > euros, a light sabre for two euros and a tiny plastic Obelix for twenty 
> > cents. Lewis loves the trams, but the modern art gallery, watched over
by 
> > one of Lovecraft's Forgotten Ones, is even better. I spent too long
there 
> > so got to Paris 23 minutes too late. My Cologne friend Dirk from the 
> > Gathering reckons Strasbourg is cool because of the huge German
influence. 
> > Cancel your order, crossing the border, changing the menu!
> >
> > The Eyefull tower is good for a stroll but Paris is full of too many
slow 
> > people and the prices are obscene. Jus d'orange? Mai non je pense que je

> > WAIT until ich gehe zu Belqigue! Paris hotels are the worst. Unlike 
> > Germany and Belgium, the beer is worse than Britain. French computer 
> > keyboards were designed by a retard and the showers go some way to 
> > explaining why the English have often mocked the French for being 
> > hygenically challenged. The redeeming feature of the French is that many

> > of them seem to really love WIRE and gave the most enthusiastic response

> > of any crowds on this tour.
> >
> > Anyway this was the route of my rail and road trip:
> >
> > I arrived in beautiful Brussels in the middle of some kind of medieval 
> > WARDANCE pageant. I had time to visit the city's most mainstream record 
> > store just opposite Ancienne Belquique which Killing Joke would conquer
by 
> > and by. I was rewarded by finding a copy of one of the few PJ HARVEY 
> > singles I didn't yet possess, 'A PLACE CALLED HOME.'
> >
> > After a couple of hours I caught the train to gorgeous Ghent for the
WIRE 
> > gig at Democrazy.
> >
> > Next day I took trains via Antwerp and a bus NORTH OF THE BORDER to 
> > Tilburg just in time to catch the seismic riffin' PELICAN and Dutch 
> > hardcore heroes SEEIN' RED before WIRE blasted off at around 7pm. Later
I 
> > was also entertained by the double breasted PRE and a Satanic black
metal 
> > band who gave the crowd the finger for watching them, all of which was 
> > unexpected.
> >
> > On returning to Brussels I witnessed a lovely WIRE gig at La Botanique,
a 
> > venue which could verily call itself NICE STREETS ABOVE if it so
desired. 
> > I struck up conversation with a charming photographer and graphic
designer 
> > called Violette who sent me eight great photos of WIRE from the gig.
> >
> > After the gig I had to START TO MOVE pretty sharp and jumped on the
night 
> > train where I was entertained by conversation with a former theatre 
> > director who had just aborted a trip to Turkey. He recommended a trip to

> > Tiergarten which proved very good advice. My first police encounter was 
> > with two cops on the Ostbahnhof platform who took a rather long time 
> > checking to find out if Interpol have a warrant out on me for listening
to 
> > music in my living room. Berlin is also very cool and well worth a visit

> > in its own right, but smells worse than Brussels.
> >
> > The first night was free before the arrival of KILLING JOKE so I checked

> > out the SO36 venue where they and WIRE played, which was immortalised in
a 
> > song on the first KILLING JOKE album. The sound was excellent as are all

> > other German venues I've ever been to. The soundman played KILLING JOKE 
> > before the headline act, a comedy punk trio who weren't very funny but 
> > probably liked DEVO. We talked after the gig and I run into him again at

> > the KILLING JOKE gigs.
> >
> > After the amazing KILLING JOKE regeneration in Berlin, with Big Paul's 
> > drum kit illuminated and smoking ritualistically, I planned to head to 
> > Paris to see them there. The train times were TOO LATE so at the last 
> > minute I rerouted to Strasbourg for more WIRE and this proved a wise 
> > choice as the COMET hit very late and I caught the whole set in front of
a 
> > very young and enthusiastic crowd at a festival that went on until 6am. 
> > Next day my second run in with cops was with two French transport police

> > who ask me to wrap up my sword so that it couldn't be seen before I
caught 
> > the train.
> >
> > Paris next for more WIRE, on a first class train where I started downing

> > some of the left over Heineken from last night's rider and upset a
French 
> > idiot who had a tantrum because I couldn't stop belching even when she 
> > kicked my chair. She complained to the guard and he clearly thought it
was 
> > a bit silly having to ask me not to belch when I couldn't help it. In
the 
> > end she started complaining I was playing the BUTTHOLE SURFERS too loud
on 
> > my headphones and he came back, again embarrassed, to ask me to turn it 
> > down. Then she had a stroke of genius and moved to another seat. Perhaps

> > its a good job the sword was wrapped!
> > If you ever feel like going to Paris my advice is don't bother. Go in a 
> > cafe that advertises coffee for a Euro and they greasy waiters will 
> > chearge you five.
> >
> > It was nice to speed back to Belgium and Brussels which was already 
> > seeming like a second home. I found many cool CDs in the shops,
including 
> > quite appropriately COMMERCIAL SUICIDE. Being there for three days I had

> > plenty of time to explore and each day surpassed the previous one. I met

> > so many great people in Belgium I felt like moving there!
> >
> > My favourite songs to listen to on a speeding train were
> > KILLING JOKE - Pssyche
> > WIRE - Drill (DJ Fuckoff Version)
> > oh dear the moderate Craig won't like that will he?
> > KILLING JOKE - Timewave
> > PJ HARVEY - Taut
> > EINSTURZENDE NEUBAUTEN - Haus Der Lauge
> > BAND OF SUSANS - Guitar Trio
> > KILLING JOKE - Empire Song
> > WIRE - Germ Ship
> > WIRE - Spent
> > BUTTHOLE SURFERS - Who was in my room last night?
> >
> > Back home after another awesome double dose of the mighty JOKE I had a
day 
> > of rest and didn't even have time enough to notice what a terminal dump 
> > Manchester is because the MELVINS wheeled in to rock the town and give
me 
> > a chance to catch up with lots of old friends. That is the great thing 
> > about Manchester, lots of good gigs.
> >
> > Next day I was off again to London for the KILLING JOKE homecoming and
as 
> > chaotic synchronicity would have it, THALIA ZEDEK and her band began
their 
> > tour the very next day. She's a brilliant intense songwriter. Check her 
> > out while you still can...
> >
> > www.myspace.com/thaliazedek
> >
> > Her tour ends on October 23 at La Botanique in Brussels!
> >
> > I went to all the THALIA ZEDEK BAND gigs in England and after the best
one 
> > at Hull Adelphi I had to zoom down to Cheam in Surrey for my younger 
> > sister's wedding. The lavish reception was held on a Territorial Army
base 
> > but my uncles and I resisted the temptation to hijack a tank. One thing
I 
> > gave her was a copy of 'UH HUH HER' by PJ HARVEY as "The Desperate
Kingdom 
> > of Love" couldn't really be a better song to wish for a long loving 
> > marriage, at the end of this burning world.
> >
> > Then I went home to transcribe interesting interviews with MAGAZINE and 
> > WIRE, blow up some more stereo speakers, and wait for civilization to
fall 
> > in its grave.
> >
> > ACCELERATE
> > ACCELERATE
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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From Appocalypsa at seznam.cz  Sat Nov  1 13:32:36 2008
From: Appocalypsa at seznam.cz (=?iso-8859-2?Q?Edita=20Hornov=E1?=)
Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 18:32:36 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [kj] Berlin PHOTOS - Happy Halloween (little late)
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Finnaly managed to edit the pics and upload them to the server, hope you'll like them, even though they are mostly not perfect quality, but I did my best...almost : )

Appo

http://killingjokeberlin2008.czweb.org/page00004.htm

From a.tolksdorf at yahoo.co.uk  Sat Nov  1 14:04:08 2008
From: a.tolksdorf at yahoo.co.uk (Alexandra Tolksdorf)
Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 18:04:08 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [kj] Berlin PHOTOS - Happy Halloween (little late)
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very nice, thank you for sharing!

~Alexandra.

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From: Edita Hornov? <Appocalypsa at seznam.cz>
Subject: [kj] Berlin PHOTOS - Happy Halloween (little late)
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
Date: Saturday, 1 November, 2008, 5:32 PM

Finnaly managed to edit the pics and upload them to the server, hope you'll
like them, even though they are mostly not perfect quality, but I did my
best...almost : )

Appo

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From bettedillinger at live.com  Sat Nov  1 16:43:25 2008
From: bettedillinger at live.com (Bette Dillinger)
Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 16:43:25 -0400
Subject: [kj] duende on last fm
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That version of "Requiem" is sick!!!!!!!!! I just wished the vocals were higher in the mix.  BPF is in da house!!!!!! Wow!

From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 02:15:14 +0000Subject: Re: [kj] duende on last fm


thanks for post those still waiting for my copy to arrive hope its not lost in post ;D

Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 19:03:24 -0700From: saulomar1 at yahoo.comTo: gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] duende on last fm




It's working out just fine here. Have tried 4 songs 
and each lasts at least a minute w/no sign of letup.
http://www.last.fm/music/Killing+Joke/Duende+-+The+Spanish+Sessions
Good luck.
 




Track
 
Duration
Listeners


1 
 
Requiem full track 

3:35 
12,021 

2 
 
The Wait full track 

3:57 
11,710 

3 
 
Tomorrow's World full track 

5:11 
5,932 

4 
 
Bloodsport full track 

4:13 
5,037 

5 
 
Psyche full track 

5:00 
1,161 

6 
 
SO36 full track 

5:55 
190 

7 
 
Millenium full track 

5:04 
1,556 

8 
 
Tension full track 

4:07 
3,053 

9 
 
Primitive full track 

3:26 
5,580 

10 
 
Are You Receiving full track 

4:59 
1,081 

11 
 
Whiteout full track 

2:55 
4,358 

12 
 
Pandemonium full track 

4:56 
5,657 

13 
 
Eighties full track 

2:59 
15,651 

14 
 
Love Like Blood full track 

5:54 
27,109 
 
And, besides, it's not your tongue you're supposed to be holding.. 
 
 
 
... ... ... ... ... ... 
[looking at the current state of things..]
 
'Save me...
  save me from Tomorrow..
    I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'   
 




From: bongo <humanhybrid666 at gmail.com>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 6:34:09 PMSubject: Re: [kj] duende on last fm
...i must be holding my tongue wrong - am only getting 29 second samples.........
sounds okay tho!
 
=)
 
 
 
 
On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 1:18 PM, sade1 <saulomar1 at yahoo.com> wrote:




P.S.
 
just tried those links and they work (meaning, full songs): 

http://www.last.fm/music/Killing+Joke/Duende+-+The+Spanish+Sessions
 
 

... ... ... ... ... ... 
[looking at the current state of things..]
 
'Save me...
  save me from Tomorrow..
    I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'   
 -- "due to a lack of trained trumpeters, the end of the world has been postponed indefinitely..."

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From bettedillinger at live.com  Sat Nov  1 16:55:16 2008
From: bettedillinger at live.com (Bette Dillinger)
Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 16:55:16 -0400
Subject: [kj] Joaquin Phoenix quits film to work in music
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For Youth in 2008?  
Interesting choices.
I guess I would cast for the essence the person gives off.2008 Jaz is.........John Malkovich (with a lovely dark wig ;0)
http://upload.moldova.org/movie/actors/j/john_malkovich/thumbnails/tn2_john_malkovich_3.jpg
2008 Youth is ........
James Caan
http://www.libertyfilmfestival.com/libertas/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/2_james_caan.jpg
2008 Geordie is.........
Rutger Hauer
http://scifipedia.scifi.com/images/0/0c/Rutger-Hauer.jpg
2008 BPF........hmmmm.....tough, Teutonic, precise.......
Daniel Day Lewis
http://artsblog.freedomblogging.com/files/2008/05/daylewis1.jpg
 
Bette
 



Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 19:11:53 -0700From: saulomar1 at yahoo.comTo: gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] Joaquin Phoenix quits film to work in music






That is pretty close.
 
For a younger Geordie, maybe 
(a blond) Hugh Jackman as Geordie http://www.everyguy.com/images/hugh_jackman/hugh_jackman5_eg.jpg
and either John Cusack or Mike Myers as Youth.
 
... ... ... ... ... ... 
[looking at the current state of things..]
 
'Save me...
  save me from Tomorrow..
    I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'   
 




From: Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 12:34:54 PMSubject: Re: [kj] Joaquin Phoenix quits film to work in music


Always thought Geordie looked like actor Charles Dance:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/drama/content/images/2007/04/19/charles_dance_396x222.jpg
 
http://www.virginmedia.com/images/charlesdance-gal-shinealight.jpg
 
Alex in NYC
 
-----Original Message----- From: sade1 Sent: Oct 31, 2008 3:14 PM To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" Subject: Re: [kj] Joaquin Phoenix quits film to work in music 




I'd cast Joacquin Phoenix as Jaz in an imaginary biopic, and John Stamos as Big Paul; 
Keanu Reeves can be Youth, Tim Curry would be Paul Raven and a young Rutger Hauer as Geordie. 
 
... ... ... ... ... ... 
[looking at the current state of things..]
 
'Save me...
  save me from Tomorrow..
    I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'   
 




From: Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 2:24:43 AMSubject: Re: [kj] Joaquin Phoenix quits film to work in musicI don't mind Phoenix, (although his name sounds like a semi ridiculousstage name, if it's not I stand corrected), but I thought him doing JohnnyCash was a bit luke warm to be honest.> Joaquin ---> Johnny ---> Jaz next?>> First he plays Johnny Cash, now he's quitting films forever to go into> music.> If only he could portray Jaz in the (now shelved?) KJ film in the works.>> Joaquin Phoenix http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/joaquinphoenix_blog.html> vid> http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b65859_Joaquin_Phoenix_Calls_It_a_Career_.html>  >> ... ... ... ... ... ...>> [looking at the current state of things..]>  > 'Save me...>   save me from Tomorrow..>     I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'  >>>>      _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering>_______________________________________________Gathering mailing listGathering at misera.nethttp://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
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From bettedillinger at live.com  Sat Nov  1 17:00:51 2008
From: bettedillinger at live.com (Bette Dillinger)
Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 17:00:51 -0400
Subject: [kj] Joaquin Phoenix quits film to work in music
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Awww, I see......you're too busy listening to Scarlett "I am known for my twins, but I think I am a genius" Johanssen's record, her incredible Tom Waits homage.......what's it called?  Uggggh ;0

From: karen.weil at sddt.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:53:49 -0700Subject: Re: [kj] Joaquin Phoenix quits film to work in music



Ugh, no thanks! 
 
; )
 
k.w.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Bette Dillinger 
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) 
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 2:38 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] Joaquin Phoenix quits film to work in music
Wha????????? You don't have Don's "Heartbeat" and Eddie's "My girl/boy likes to Party All the Time" on 24/7 rotation at your place? LOL 

From: wessidetempest at hotmail.comTo: vassifer at earthlink.net; gathering at misera.netDate: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 11:19:22 -0400Subject: Re: [kj] Joaquin Phoenix quits film to work in music

The only thing that I can think I saw him in was Walk the Line.  And I appreciate that he is a good actor.  But I couldn't get into him being Johnny Cash.  BUT more importantly Reese Witherspoon SUCKED as June Carter.  While he was attempting the character she certainly was not.  But anyway.Go ahead.  Retire.  See you in a few years in some obscure independent movie.  Eddie Murphy, Don Johnson, and so many others have tried with great success.Chris> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 10:10:16 -0400> From: vassifer at earthlink.net> To: gathering at misera.net; gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re: [kj] Joaquin Phoenix quits film to work in music> > > He was in "Walk the Line" -- which I didn't see (there's only ONE [1] Johnny Cash).> > He was the fey Roman in "Gladiator" -- didn't see that either.> > He was an obsessed slacker in the Nicole Kidman vehicle, "To Die For." Saw it, but don't remember it.> > He was Diane Weist's masturbating adolescent in "Parenthood". Saw it. Heart warmed by it.> > Alex in NYC> > > > -----Original Message-----> >From: Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>> >Sent: Oct 31, 2008 8:38 AM> >To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>> >Subject: Re: [kj] Joaquin Phoenix quits film to work in music> >> >Random comment, but has anyone noticed how fucked his shoulders are? Dunno> >if it's congenital or what, but must cause a bit of pain.> >> >Actually I can't think of a good movie I've seen him in. That Mel Gibson> >alien thing was shit, that one where he's a drug smuggler in the> >army...that was shit...still I don't think he's a bad actor. I musta seen> >him in something...> >> >>> >> It's his real name -- brother of the late River Phoenix. His parents> >> were silly hippies.> >>> >> Alex in NYC> >>> >>> >> On Oct 31, 2008, at 5:24 AM, Brendan wrote:> >>> >>> I don't mind Phoenix, (although his name sounds like a semi ridiculous> >>> stage name, if it's not I stand corrected), but I thought him doing> >>> Johnny> >>> Cash was a bit luke warm to be honest.> >>>> >>>> Joaquin ---> Johnny ---> Jaz next?> >>>>> >>>> First he plays Johnny Cash, now he's quitting films forever to go> >>>> into> >>>> music.> >>>> If only he could portray Jaz in the (now shelved?) KJ film in the> >>>> works.> >>>>> >>>> Joaquin Phoenix> >>>> http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/joaquinphoenix_blog.html> >>>> vid> >>>> http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b65859_Joaquin_Phoenix_Calls_It_a_Career_.html> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> ... ... ... ... ... ...> >>>>> >>>> [looking at the current state of things..]> >>>>> >>>> 'Save me...> >>>> save me from Tomorrow..> >>>> I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________> >>>> Gathering mailing list> >>>> Gathering at misera.net> >>>> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________> >>> Gathering mailing list> >>> Gathering at misera.net> >>> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering> >>> >> _______________________________________________> >> Gathering mailing list> >> Gathering at misera.net> >> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering> >>> >> >> >_______________________________________________> >Gathering mailing list> >Gathering at misera.net> >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering> > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering

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From dpeace at bigfoot.com  Sat Nov  1 17:00:37 2008
From: dpeace at bigfoot.com (Darren A. Peace)
Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 21:00:37 -0000
Subject: [kj] Joaquin Phoenix quits film to work in music
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Signs does, indeed, smell like a six-week-old sheep carcass. Glass of water.
Pah.  However, he really surpassed himself with Lady In The Water, which I
had the great pleasure of reviewing when it came out. Got nearly 1000
complaints for that review, which is a certain measure of success, imo.

 

And Joaquin looks, to me, like a serial sex offender, which generates a
certain amount of prejudice.

 

Darren

Hungerford, UK

 

From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Leigh Newton
Sent: 01 November 2008 04:54
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] Joaquin Phoenix quits film to work in music

 

I think Signs was a piece of shit from start to finish. The stupid ending
only put a period on the sentence and that sentence reads as follows: Hi,
I'm the stupidest fucking movie ever made.

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From hollytree1961 at hotmail.com  Sat Nov  1 17:12:00 2008
From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com (melinda grant)
Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 21:12:00 +0000
Subject: [kj] OT - The Damned @ The Late Late Show
	(Craig	Ferguson)	10/30/2008
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is that a tash dave is sporting lol,looks awful ;))) !! he still has a powerful voice atleast but always got the feeling that he secretly fancies him self as a jim morrison however,still like the damneds punk eara music and their goth phase alot ;D

From: vassifer at earthlink.netTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 09:09:46 -0400Subject: Re: [kj] OT - The Damned @ The Late Late Show (Craig Ferguson) 10/30/2008

Ways to improve this:

Ditch the keyboard player.
Bring back Rat Scabies.
Bring back Brian James
Put Dave on a diet.

Alex in NYC


On Nov 1, 2008, at 8:32 AM, Christof hamille wrote:

The bass player isn't playing it right.  Which then sounds off.  I know it is modified so Dave won't be as disgusted (he has been noted of being tired of playing the "old hits" day after day) with the song but still.  That bass line is pretty crucial to that song.  At least Dave's plugs are staying in and I like the "proper" British gentleman complete with monocle and gloves.And whatmakes it odder is that Captain originally played it.At least Patricia isn't in the band.Chris

To: gathering at misera.netDate: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:08:13 -0400From: countessghoulita at aol.comSubject: [kj] OT - The Damned @ The Late Late Show (Craig Ferguson) 10/30/2008The Dammed will play tonight with The Adolescents at the HOB in LA:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kS-r-ir90scHappy Halloween!


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From hollytree1961 at hotmail.com  Sat Nov  1 17:16:14 2008
From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com (melinda grant)
Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 21:16:14 +0000
Subject: [kj] duende on last fm
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.....but the versions of s.o.36 and tomorrows world are just great ;)

From: bettedillinger at live.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 16:43:25 -0400Subject: Re: [kj] duende on last fm


That version of "Requiem" is sick!!!!!!!!! I just wished the vocals were higher in the mix.  BPF is in da house!!!!!! Wow!

From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 02:15:14 +0000Subject: Re: [kj] duende on last fm

thanks for post those still waiting for my copy to arrive hope its not lost in post ;D

Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 19:03:24 -0700From: saulomar1 at yahoo.comTo: gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] duende on last fm




It's working out just fine here. Have tried 4 songs 
and each lasts at least a minute w/no sign of letup.
http://www.last.fm/music/Killing+Joke/Duende+-+The+Spanish+Sessions
Good luck.
 




Track
 
Duration
Listeners


1 
 
Requiem full track 

3:35 
12,021 

2 
 
The Wait full track 

3:57 
11,710 

3 
 
Tomorrow's World full track 

5:11 
5,932 

4 
 
Bloodsport full track 

4:13 
5,037 

5 
 
Psyche full track 

5:00 
1,161 

6 
 
SO36 full track 

5:55 
190 

7 
 
Millenium full track 

5:04 
1,556 

8 
 
Tension full track 

4:07 
3,053 

9 
 
Primitive full track 

3:26 
5,580 

10 
 
Are You Receiving full track 

4:59 
1,081 

11 
 
Whiteout full track 

2:55 
4,358 

12 
 
Pandemonium full track 

4:56 
5,657 

13 
 
Eighties full track 

2:59 
15,651 

14 
 
Love Like Blood full track 

5:54 
27,109 
 
And, besides, it's not your tongue you're supposed to be holding.. 
 
 
 
... ... ... ... ... ... 
[looking at the current state of things..]
 
'Save me...
  save me from Tomorrow..
    I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'   
 




From: bongo <humanhybrid666 at gmail.com>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 6:34:09 PMSubject: Re: [kj] duende on last fm
...i must be holding my tongue wrong - am only getting 29 second samples.........
sounds okay tho!
 
=)
 
 
 
 
On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 1:18 PM, sade1 <saulomar1 at yahoo.com> wrote:




P.S.
 
just tried those links and they work (meaning, full songs): 

http://www.last.fm/music/Killing+Joke/Duende+-+The+Spanish+Sessions
 
 

... ... ... ... ... ... 
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From hollytree1961 at hotmail.com  Sat Nov  1 17:26:40 2008
From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com (melinda grant)
Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 21:26:40 +0000
Subject: [kj] Berlin PHOTOS - Happy Halloween (little late)
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great pics thanks for posting them ;)

Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 18:04:08 +0000From: a.tolksdorf at yahoo.co.ukTo: gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] Berlin PHOTOS - Happy Halloween (little late)



very nice, thank you for sharing!~Alexandra.--- On Sat, 1/11/08, Edita Hornov? <Appocalypsa at seznam.cz> wrote:
From: Edita Hornov? <Appocalypsa at seznam.cz>Subject: [kj] Berlin PHOTOS - Happy Halloween (little late)To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>Date: Saturday, 1 November, 2008, 5:32 PMFinnaly managed to edit the pics and upload them to the server, hope you'll
like them, even though they are mostly not perfect quality, but I did my
best...almost : )

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From fluwdot at earthlink.net  Sat Nov  1 18:26:45 2008
From: fluwdot at earthlink.net (fluw)
Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 18:26:45 -0400
Subject: [kj] Joaquin Phoenix quits film to work in music
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Signs was cheap Christian propaganda 

 

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Behalf Of Leigh Newton
Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 12:54 AM
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] Joaquin Phoenix quits film to work in music

 

I think Signs was a piece of shit from start to finish. The stupid ending
only put a period on the sentence and that sentence reads as follows: Hi,
I'm the stupidest fucking movie ever made.

Leigh

 

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From: folk devil <folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com>
To: gathering at misera.net
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 1:21:33 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] Joaquin Phoenix quits film to work in music

I think the ending of signs totally trashed the film. Nice idea, bad
execution.

" 

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From: jagargal at lycos.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 12:42:43 -0400
Subject: Re: [kj] Joaquin Phoenix quits film to work in music

Going a little deeper in the hippie parent's thing, his sister's name is
Summer Phoenix. 

I think he's a pretty good actor, opposite to you i do like "Signs" (the end
may be bad, but the suspense along all the movie -just before the end- is
awesome. Besides i love the UFO-Alien movies/topics), still his acting isn't
very remarkable in this one. He was ok in 8mm, but on the other hand he was
very good in Gladiator -he made a great tyrant- and in his role as Johnny
Cash was very nice too. 

Javier 
mexcity 









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>From : "Brendan" <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>

To : "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)"
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Random comment, but has anyone noticed how fucked his shoulders are? Dunno 

if it's congenital or what, but must cause a bit of pain. 



Actually I can't think of a good movie I've seen him in. That Mel Gibson 

alien thing was shit, that one where he's a drug smuggler in the 

army...that was shit...still I don't think he's a bad actor. I musta seen 

him in something... 



> 

> It's his real name -- brother of the late River Phoenix. His parents 

> were silly hippies. 

> 

> Alex in NYC 

> 

> 

> On Oct 31, 2008, at 5:24 AM, Brendan wrote: 

> 

>> I don't mind Phoenix, (although his name sounds like a semi ridiculous 

>> stage name, if it's not I stand corrected), but I thought him doing 

>> Johnny 

>> Cash was a bit luke warm to be honest. 

>> 

>>> Joaquin ---> Johnny ---> Jaz next? 

>>> 

>>> First he plays Johnny Cash, now he's quitting films forever to go 

>>> into 

>>> music. 

>>> If only he could portray Jaz in the (now shelved?) KJ film in the 

>>> works. 

>>> 

>>> Joaquin Phoenix 

>>> http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/joaquinphoenix_blog.html 

>>> vid 

>>>
http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b65859_Joaquin_Phoenix_Calls_It_a_Career_.ht
ml 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> ... ... ... ... ... ... 

>>> 

>>> [looking at the current state of things..] 

>>> 

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>>> save me from Tomorrow.. 

>>> I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...' 

>>> 

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From: spooman at freenet.de (Marcel)
Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 23:37:11 +0100
Subject: [kj] Berlin PHOTOS - Happy Halloween (little late)
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thanks a lot for sharing those - very good stuff!

Marcel (Germany)

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>    2. Re: OT - The Damned @ The Late Late Show  (Craig  Ferguson)
>       10/30/2008 (melinda grant)
>    3. Re: duende on last fm (melinda grant)
>    4. Re: Berlin PHOTOS - Happy Halloween (little late) (melinda grant)
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>Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 21:00:37 -0000
>From: "Darren A. Peace" <dpeace at bigfoot.com>
>Subject: Re: [kj] Joaquin Phoenix quits film to work in music
>To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)'"
>         <gathering at misera.net>
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>Signs does, indeed, smell like a six-week-old sheep carcass. Glass of water.
>Pah.  However, he really surpassed himself with Lady In The Water, which I
>had the great pleasure of reviewing when it came out. Got nearly 1000
>complaints for that review, which is a certain measure of success, imo.
>
>
>
>And Joaquin looks, to me, like a serial sex offender, which generates a
>certain amount of prejudice.
>
>
>
>Darren
>
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>
>
>From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
>Behalf Of Leigh Newton
>Sent: 01 November 2008 04:54
>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
>Subject: Re: [kj] Joaquin Phoenix quits film to work in music
>
>
>
>I think Signs was a piece of shit from start to finish. The stupid ending
>only put a period on the sentence and that sentence reads as follows: Hi,
>I'm the stupidest fucking movie ever made.
>
>Leigh
>
>
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>From: melinda grant <hollytree1961 at hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [kj] OT - The Damned @ The Late Late Show  (Craig
>         Ferguson)       10/30/2008
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>is that a tash dave is sporting lol,looks awful ;))) !! he still has 
>a powerful voice atleast but always got the feeling that he secretly 
>fancies him self as a jim morrison however,still like the damneds 
>punk eara music and their goth phase alot ;D
>
>From: vassifer at earthlink.netTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Sat, 1 Nov 
>2008 09:09:46 -0400Subject: Re: [kj] OT - The Damned @ The Late Late 
>Show (Craig Ferguson) 10/30/2008
>
>Ways to improve this:
>
>Ditch the keyboard player.
>Bring back Rat Scabies.
>Bring back Brian James
>Put Dave on a diet.
>
>Alex in NYC
>
>
>On Nov 1, 2008, at 8:32 AM, Christof hamille wrote:
>
>The bass player isn't playing it right.  Which then sounds off.  I 
>know it is modified so Dave won't be as disgusted (he has been noted 
>of being tired of playing the "old hits" day after day) with the 
>song but still.  That bass line is pretty crucial to that song.  At 
>least Dave's plugs are staying in and I like the "proper" British 
>gentleman complete with monocle and gloves.And whatmakes it odder is 
>that Captain originally played it.At least Patricia isn't in the band.Chris
>
>To: gathering at misera.netDate: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:08:13 -0400From: 
>countessghoulita at aol.comSubject: [kj] OT - The Damned @ The Late 
>Late Show (Craig Ferguson) 10/30/2008The Dammed will play tonight 
>with The Adolescents at the HOB in 
>LA:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kS-r-ir90scHappy Halloween!
>
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>Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 21:16:14 +0000
>From: melinda grant <hollytree1961 at hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [kj] duende on last fm
>To: <gathering at misera.net>
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>.....but the versions of s.o.36 and tomorrows world are just great ;)
>
>From: bettedillinger at live.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Sat, 1 
>Nov 2008 16:43:25 -0400Subject: Re: [kj] duende on last fm
>
>
>That version of "Requiem" is sick!!!!!!!!! I just wished the vocals 
>were higher in the mix.  BPF is in da house!!!!!! Wow!
>
>From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Sat, 1 
>Nov 2008 02:15:14 +0000Subject: Re: [kj] duende on last fm
>
>thanks for post those still waiting for my copy to arrive hope its 
>not lost in post ;D
>
>Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 19:03:24 -0700From: saulomar1 at yahoo.comTo: 
>gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] duende on last fm
>
>
>
>
>It's working out just fine here. Have tried 4 songs
>and each lasts at least a minute w/no sign of letup.
>http://www.last.fm/music/Killing+Joke/Duende+-+The+Spanish+Sessions
>Good luck.
>
>
>
>
>
>Track
>
>Duration
>Listeners
>
>
>1
>
>Requiem full track
>
>3:35
>12,021
>
>2
>
>The Wait full track
>
>3:57
>11,710
>
>3
>
>Tomorrow's World full track
>
>5:11
>5,932
>
>4
>
>Bloodsport full track
>
>4:13
>5,037
>
>5
>
>Psyche full track
>
>5:00
>1,161
>
>6
>
>SO36 full track
>
>5:55
>190
>
>7
>
>Millenium full track
>
>5:04
>1,556
>
>8
>
>Tension full track
>
>4:07
>3,053
>
>9
>
>Primitive full track
>
>3:26
>5,580
>
>10
>
>Are You Receiving full track
>
>4:59
>1,081
>
>11
>
>Whiteout full track
>
>2:55
>4,358
>
>12
>
>Pandemonium full track
>
>4:56
>5,657
>
>13
>
>Eighties full track
>
>2:59
>15,651
>
>14
>
>Love Like Blood full track
>
>5:54
>27,109
>
>And, besides, it's not your tongue you're supposed to be holding..
>
>
>
>... ... ... ... ... ...
>[looking at the current state of things..]
>
>'Save me...
>   save me from Tomorrow..
>     I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'
>
>
>
>
>
>From: bongo <humanhybrid666 at gmail.com>To: A list about all things 
>Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>Sent: Friday, October 
>31, 2008 6:34:09 PMSubject: Re: [kj] duende on last fm
>...i must be holding my tongue wrong - am only getting 29 second 
>samples.........
>sounds okay tho!
>
>=)
>
>
>
>
>On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 1:18 PM, sade1 <saulomar1 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>P.S.
>
>just tried those links and they work (meaning, full songs):
>
>http://www.last.fm/music/Killing+Joke/Duende+-+The+Spanish+Sessions
>
>
>
>... ... ... ... ... ...
>[looking at the current state of things..]
>
>'Save me...
>   save me from Tomorrow..
>     I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'
>  -- "due to a lack of trained trumpeters, the end of the world has 
> been postponed indefinitely..."
>
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>From: melinda grant <hollytree1961 at hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [kj] Berlin PHOTOS - Happy Halloween (little late)
>To: <gathering at misera.net>
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>great pics thanks for posting them ;)
>
>Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 18:04:08 +0000From: a.tolksdorf at yahoo.co.ukTo: 
>gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] Berlin PHOTOS - Happy 
>Halloween (little late)
>
>
>
>very nice, thank you for sharing!~Alexandra.--- On Sat, 1/11/08, 
>Edita Hornov? <Appocalypsa at seznam.cz> wrote:
>From: Edita Hornov? <Appocalypsa at seznam.cz>Subject: [kj] Berlin 
>PHOTOS - Happy Halloween (little late)To: "A list about all things 
>Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>Date: Saturday, 1 
>November, 2008, 5:32 PMFinnaly managed to edit the pics and upload 
>them to the server, hope you'll
>like them, even though they are mostly not perfect quality, but I did my
>best...almost : )
>
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From bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net  Sat Nov  1 18:36:54 2008
From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net (B. Oliver Sheppard)
Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 17:36:54 -0500
Subject: [kj] OT - The Damned @ The Late Late Show
	(Craig	Ferguson)	10/30/2008
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Yeah, the bass sounds way too high. Dave actually, for once, looks old.

-Oliver

Christof hamille wrote:
> The bass player isn't playing it right.


From vassifer at earthlink.net  Sat Nov  1 18:48:31 2008
From: vassifer at earthlink.net (Alexander Smith)
Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 18:48:31 -0400
Subject: [kj] Berlin PHOTOS - Happy Halloween (little late)
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Yes, these are spectacular!!! Damn well done.

Alex in NYC


On Nov 1, 2008, at 6:37 PM, Marcel wrote:

> thanks a lot for sharing those - very good stuff!
>
> Marcel (Germany)
>
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>>   1. Re: Joaquin Phoenix quits film to work in music (Darren A.  
>> Peace)
>>   2. Re: OT - The Damned @ The Late Late Show  (Craig  Ferguson)
>>      10/30/2008 (melinda grant)
>>   3. Re: duende on last fm (melinda grant)
>>   4. Re: Berlin PHOTOS - Happy Halloween (little late) (melinda  
>> grant)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 21:00:37 -0000
>> From: "Darren A. Peace" <dpeace at bigfoot.com>
>> Subject: Re: [kj] Joaquin Phoenix quits film to work in music
>> To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)'"
>>        <gathering at misera.net>
>> Message-ID: <014d01c93c64$e43c19f0$acb44dd0$@com>
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>> Signs does, indeed, smell like a six-week-old sheep carcass. Glass  
>> of water.
>> Pah.  However, he really surpassed himself with Lady In The Water,  
>> which I
>> had the great pleasure of reviewing when it came out. Got nearly 1000
>> complaints for that review, which is a certain measure of success,  
>> imo.
>>
>>
>>
>> And Joaquin looks, to me, like a serial sex offender, which  
>> generates a
>> certain amount of prejudice.
>>
>>
>>
>> Darren
>>
>> Hungerford, UK
>>
>>
>>
>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net 
>> ] On
>> Behalf Of Leigh Newton
>> Sent: 01 November 2008 04:54
>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
>> Subject: Re: [kj] Joaquin Phoenix quits film to work in music
>>
>>
>>
>> I think Signs was a piece of shit from start to finish. The stupid  
>> ending
>> only put a period on the sentence and that sentence reads as  
>> follows: Hi,
>> I'm the stupidest fucking movie ever made.
>>
>> Leigh
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.nightruiner.com
>> http://www.myspace.com/thesunthroughatelescope
>> http://www.myspace.com/lauderdale
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>> From: melinda grant <hollytree1961 at hotmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [kj] OT - The Damned @ The Late Late Show  (Craig
>>        Ferguson)       10/30/2008
>> To: <gathering at misera.net>
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>>
>> is that a tash dave is sporting lol,looks awful ;))) !! he still  
>> has a powerful voice atleast but always got the feeling that he  
>> secretly fancies him self as a jim morrison however,still like the  
>> damneds punk eara music and their goth phase alot ;D
>>
>> From: vassifer at earthlink.netTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Sat, 1  
>> Nov 2008 09:09:46 -0400Subject: Re: [kj] OT - The Damned @ The Late  
>> Late Show (Craig Ferguson) 10/30/2008
>>
>> Ways to improve this:
>>
>> Ditch the keyboard player.
>> Bring back Rat Scabies.
>> Bring back Brian James
>> Put Dave on a diet.
>>
>> Alex in NYC
>>
>>
>> On Nov 1, 2008, at 8:32 AM, Christof hamille wrote:
>>
>> The bass player isn't playing it right.  Which then sounds off.  I  
>> know it is modified so Dave won't be as disgusted (he has been  
>> noted of being tired of playing the "old hits" day after day) with  
>> the song but still.  That bass line is pretty crucial to that  
>> song.  At least Dave's plugs are staying in and I like the "proper"  
>> British gentleman complete with monocle and gloves.And whatmakes it  
>> odder is that Captain originally played it.At least Patricia isn't  
>> in the band.Chris
>>
>> To: gathering at misera.netDate: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:08:13 -0400From: countessghoulita at aol.comSubject 
>> : [kj] OT - The Damned @ The Late Late Show (Craig Ferguson)  
>> 10/30/2008The Dammed will play tonight with The Adolescents at the  
>> HOB in LA:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kS-r-ir90scHappy Halloween!
>>
>>
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>> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 21:16:14 +0000
>> From: melinda grant <hollytree1961 at hotmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [kj] duende on last fm
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>>
>> .....but the versions of s.o.36 and tomorrows world are just great ;)
>>
>> From: bettedillinger at live.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Sat, 1  
>> Nov 2008 16:43:25 -0400Subject: Re: [kj] duende on last fm
>>
>>
>> That version of "Requiem" is sick!!!!!!!!! I just wished the vocals  
>> were higher in the mix.  BPF is in da house!!!!!! Wow!
>>
>> From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Sat, 1  
>> Nov 2008 02:15:14 +0000Subject: Re: [kj] duende on last fm
>>
>> thanks for post those still waiting for my copy to arrive hope its  
>> not lost in post ;D
>>
>> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 19:03:24 -0700From: saulomar1 at yahoo.comTo: gathering at misera.netSubject 
>> : Re: [kj] duende on last fm
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> It's working out just fine here. Have tried 4 songs
>> and each lasts at least a minute w/no sign of letup.
>> http://www.last.fm/music/Killing+Joke/Duende+-+The+Spanish+Sessions
>> Good luck.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Track
>>
>> Duration
>> Listeners
>>
>>
>> 1
>>
>> Requiem full track
>>
>> 3:35
>> 12,021
>>
>> 2
>>
>> The Wait full track
>>
>> 3:57
>> 11,710
>>
>> 3
>>
>> Tomorrow's World full track
>>
>> 5:11
>> 5,932
>>
>> 4
>>
>> Bloodsport full track
>>
>> 4:13
>> 5,037
>>
>> 5
>>
>> Psyche full track
>>
>> 5:00
>> 1,161
>>
>> 6
>>
>> SO36 full track
>>
>> 5:55
>> 190
>>
>> 7
>>
>> Millenium full track
>>
>> 5:04
>> 1,556
>>
>> 8
>>
>> Tension full track
>>
>> 4:07
>> 3,053
>>
>> 9
>>
>> Primitive full track
>>
>> 3:26
>> 5,580
>>
>> 10
>>
>> Are You Receiving full track
>>
>> 4:59
>> 1,081
>>
>> 11
>>
>> Whiteout full track
>>
>> 2:55
>> 4,358
>>
>> 12
>>
>> Pandemonium full track
>>
>> 4:56
>> 5,657
>>
>> 13
>>
>> Eighties full track
>>
>> 2:59
>> 15,651
>>
>> 14
>>
>> Love Like Blood full track
>>
>> 5:54
>> 27,109
>>
>> And, besides, it's not your tongue you're supposed to be holding..
>>
>>
>>
>> ... ... ... ... ... ...
>> [looking at the current state of things..]
>>
>> 'Save me...
>>  save me from Tomorrow..
>>    I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: bongo <humanhybrid666 at gmail.com>To: A list about all things  
>> Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>Sent: Friday,  
>> October 31, 2008 6:34:09 PMSubject: Re: [kj] duende on last fm
>> ...i must be holding my tongue wrong - am only getting 29 second  
>> samples.........
>> sounds okay tho!
>>
>> =)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 1:18 PM, sade1 <saulomar1 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> P.S.
>>
>> just tried those links and they work (meaning, full songs):
>>
>> http://www.last.fm/music/Killing+Joke/Duende+-+The+Spanish+Sessions
>>
>>
>>
>> ... ... ... ... ... ...
>> [looking at the current state of things..]
>>
>> 'Save me...
>>  save me from Tomorrow..
>>    I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'
>> -- "due to a lack of trained trumpeters, the end of the world has  
>> been postponed indefinitely..."
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>> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 21:26:40 +0000
>> From: melinda grant <hollytree1961 at hotmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [kj] Berlin PHOTOS - Happy Halloween (little late)
>> To: <gathering at misera.net>
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>>
>> great pics thanks for posting them ;)
>>
>> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 18:04:08 +0000From:  
>> a.tolksdorf at yahoo.co.ukTo: gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj]  
>> Berlin PHOTOS - Happy Halloween (little late)
>>
>>
>>
>> very nice, thank you for sharing!~Alexandra.--- On Sat, 1/11/08,  
>> Edita Hornov? <Appocalypsa at seznam.cz> wrote:
>> From: Edita Hornov? <Appocalypsa at seznam.cz>Subject: [kj] Berlin  
>> PHOTOS - Happy Halloween (little late)To: "A list about all things  
>> Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>Date: Saturday, 1  
>> November, 2008, 5:32 PMFinnaly managed to edit the pics and upload  
>> them to the server, hope you'll
>> like them, even though they are mostly not perfect quality, but I  
>> did my
>> best...almost : )
>>
>> Appo
>>
>> http://killingjokeberlin2008.czweb.org/page00004.htm
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From elipsis44 at hotmail.com  Sat Nov  1 20:10:45 2008
From: elipsis44 at hotmail.com (J Casavola)
Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 17:10:45 -0700
Subject: [kj] duende on last fm
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Holy Shit!! Pandemonium Sounds freaking great with BPF on drums. A tighter take than any performance I've heard live.

From: bettedillinger at live.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 16:43:25 -0400Subject: Re: [kj] duende on last fm


That version of "Requiem" is sick!!!!!!!!! I just wished the vocals were higher in the mix.  BPF is in da house!!!!!! Wow!

From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 02:15:14 +0000Subject: Re: [kj] duende on last fm

thanks for post those still waiting for my copy to arrive hope its not lost in post ;D

Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 19:03:24 -0700From: saulomar1 at yahoo.comTo: gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] duende on last fm




It's working out just fine here. Have tried 4 songs 
and each lasts at least a minute w/no sign of letup.
http://www.last.fm/music/Killing+Joke/Duende+-+The+Spanish+Sessions
Good luck.
 




Track
 
Duration
Listeners


1 
 
Requiem full track 

3:35 
12,021 

2 
 
The Wait full track 

3:57 
11,710 

3 
 
Tomorrow's World full track 

5:11 
5,932 

4 
 
Bloodsport full track 

4:13 
5,037 

5 
 
Psyche full track 

5:00 
1,161 

6 
 
SO36 full track 

5:55 
190 

7 
 
Millenium full track 

5:04 
1,556 

8 
 
Tension full track 

4:07 
3,053 

9 
 
Primitive full track 

3:26 
5,580 

10 
 
Are You Receiving full track 

4:59 
1,081 

11 
 
Whiteout full track 

2:55 
4,358 

12 
 
Pandemonium full track 

4:56 
5,657 

13 
 
Eighties full track 

2:59 
15,651 

14 
 
Love Like Blood full track 

5:54 
27,109 
 
And, besides, it's not your tongue you're supposed to be holding.. 
 
 
 
... ... ... ... ... ... 
[looking at the current state of things..]
 
'Save me...
  save me from Tomorrow..
    I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'   
 




From: bongo <humanhybrid666 at gmail.com>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 6:34:09 PMSubject: Re: [kj] duende on last fm
...i must be holding my tongue wrong - am only getting 29 second samples.........
sounds okay tho!
 
=)
 
 
 
 
On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 1:18 PM, sade1 <saulomar1 at yahoo.com> wrote:




P.S.
 
just tried those links and they work (meaning, full songs): 

http://www.last.fm/music/Killing+Joke/Duende+-+The+Spanish+Sessions
 
 

... ... ... ... ... ... 
[looking at the current state of things..]
 
'Save me...
  save me from Tomorrow..
    I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'   
 -- "due to a lack of trained trumpeters, the end of the world has been postponed indefinitely..."

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From elipsis44 at hotmail.com  Sat Nov  1 20:15:26 2008
From: elipsis44 at hotmail.com (J Casavola)
Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 17:15:26 -0700
Subject: [kj] duende on last fm
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they should do a remake of Pandemonium with BPF on drums 

From: bettedillinger at live.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 16:43:25 -0400Subject: Re: [kj] duende on last fm


That version of "Requiem" is sick!!!!!!!!! I just wished the vocals were higher in the mix.  BPF is in da house!!!!!! Wow!

From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 02:15:14 +0000Subject: Re: [kj] duende on last fm

thanks for post those still waiting for my copy to arrive hope its not lost in post ;D

Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 19:03:24 -0700From: saulomar1 at yahoo.comTo: gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] duende on last fm




It's working out just fine here. Have tried 4 songs 
and each lasts at least a minute w/no sign of letup.
http://www.last.fm/music/Killing+Joke/Duende+-+The+Spanish+Sessions
Good luck.
 




Track
 
Duration
Listeners


1 
 
Requiem full track 

3:35 
12,021 

2 
 
The Wait full track 

3:57 
11,710 

3 
 
Tomorrow's World full track 

5:11 
5,932 

4 
 
Bloodsport full track 

4:13 
5,037 

5 
 
Psyche full track 

5:00 
1,161 

6 
 
SO36 full track 

5:55 
190 

7 
 
Millenium full track 

5:04 
1,556 

8 
 
Tension full track 

4:07 
3,053 

9 
 
Primitive full track 

3:26 
5,580 

10 
 
Are You Receiving full track 

4:59 
1,081 

11 
 
Whiteout full track 

2:55 
4,358 

12 
 
Pandemonium full track 

4:56 
5,657 

13 
 
Eighties full track 

2:59 
15,651 

14 
 
Love Like Blood full track 

5:54 
27,109 
 
And, besides, it's not your tongue you're supposed to be holding.. 
 
 
 
... ... ... ... ... ... 
[looking at the current state of things..]
 
'Save me...
  save me from Tomorrow..
    I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'   
 




From: bongo <humanhybrid666 at gmail.com>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 6:34:09 PMSubject: Re: [kj] duende on last fm
...i must be holding my tongue wrong - am only getting 29 second samples.........
sounds okay tho!
 
=)
 
 
 
 
On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 1:18 PM, sade1 <saulomar1 at yahoo.com> wrote:




P.S.
 
just tried those links and they work (meaning, full songs): 

http://www.last.fm/music/Killing+Joke/Duende+-+The+Spanish+Sessions
 
 

... ... ... ... ... ... 
[looking at the current state of things..]
 
'Save me...
  save me from Tomorrow..
    I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'   
 -- "due to a lack of trained trumpeters, the end of the world has been postponed indefinitely..."

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From saulomar1 at yahoo.com  Sat Nov  1 21:46:38 2008
From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com (sade1)
Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 18:46:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [kj] Joaquin Phoenix quits film to work in music
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Ah, great choice in Daniel Day Lewis. He reminds me?a bit of The Machinist in the link you included. 

As general stan-bys - just because?they can play any damn?character well - as casting director I would keep on retainer Gary Oldman, Christian Bale, and maybe James Spader to play any of the roles eventually not cast.
?
Seeing how Geordie's a tough cast, I'll bet anything Jaz?himself - being his usual one-man universe - will fight his way into the movie to play Geordie. 8D? Or he wouldn't let the name Killing Joke be used, as he's threatened before.


3 seconds to ground...

... ... ... ... ... ... 

[looking at the current?state of things..]
?
'Save me...
? save me?from Tomorrow..
??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? 





________________________________
From: Bette Dillinger <bettedillinger at live.com>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Saturday, November 1, 2008 1:55:16 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] Joaquin Phoenix quits film to work in music

For Youth in 2008?? 
Interesting choices.
I guess I would cast for the?essence the person gives off.
2008 Jaz is.........John Malkovich?(with a lovely dark wig ;0)
http://upload.moldova.org/movie/actors/j/john_malkovich/thumbnails/tn2_john_malkovich_3.jpg
2008 Youth is ........
James Caan
http://www.libertyfilmfestival.com/libertas/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/2_james_caan.jpg
2008 Geordie is.........
Rutger Hauer
http://scifipedia.scifi.com/images/0/0c/Rutger-Hauer.jpg
2008 BPF........hmmmm.....tough, Teutonic, precise.......
Daniel Day Lewis
http://artsblog.freedomblogging.com/files/2008/05/daylewis1.jpg
?
Bette

?
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Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 19:11:53 -0700
From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] Joaquin Phoenix quits film to work in music



That is pretty close.

For a younger Geordie, maybe 
(a blond) Hugh Jackman as Geordie http://www.everyguy.com/images/hugh_jackman/hugh_jackman5_eg.jpg
and either John Cusack or Mike Myers as Youth.

?
... ... ... ... ... ... 

[looking at the current?state of things..]
?
'Save me...
? save me?from Tomorrow..
??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? 





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From: Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 12:34:54 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] Joaquin Phoenix quits film to work in music

Always thought Geordie looked like actor Charles Dance:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/drama/content/images/2007/04/19/charles_dance_396x222.jpg
?
http://www.virginmedia.com/images/charlesdance-gal-shinealight.jpg
?
Alex in NYC



?

-----Original Message----- 
From: sade1 
Sent: Oct 31, 2008 3:14 PM 
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
Subject: Re: [kj] Joaquin Phoenix quits film to work in music 


I'd cast Joacquin Phoenix as Jaz in an imaginary biopic, and John Stamos as Big Paul; 
Keanu Reeves can be Youth, Tim Curry would?be Paul Raven and a?young Rutger Hauer as Geordie.
?

... ... ... ... ... ... 

[looking at the current?state of things..]
?
'Save me...
? save me?from Tomorrow..
??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? 





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From: Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 2:24:43 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] Joaquin Phoenix quits film to work in music

I don't mind Phoenix, (although his name sounds like a semi ridiculous
stage name, if it's not I stand corrected), but I thought him doing Johnny
Cash was a bit luke warm to be honest.

> Joaquin ---> Johnny ---> Jaz next?
>
> First he plays Johnny Cash, now he's quitting films forever to go into
> music.
> If only he could portray Jaz in the (now shelved?) KJ film in the works.
>
> Joaquin Phoenix http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/joaquinphoenix_blog.html
> vid
> http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b65859_Joaquin_Phoenix_Calls_It_a_Career_.html
> ?
>
> ... ... ... ... ... ...
>
> [looking at the current?state of things..]
> ?
> 'Save me...
> ? save me?from Tomorrow..
> ??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'??
>
>
>
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From saulomar1 at yahoo.com  Sat Nov  1 21:55:06 2008
From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com (sade1)
Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 18:55:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [kj] Joaquin Phoenix quits film to work in music
References: <28524340.1225462217209.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rubis.atl.sa.earthlink.net><BAY138-W26C5B00CC07900EA361BEEDB200@phx.gbl>
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?? I think?Scarlett Johanssen is smart because?of her two twins?that are thinking 
for her...?but it all somehow slips thru her fingers, regardless.j/k...
?
?? But seriously, overall, her latest film Vicky Cristina Barcelona by Woody?Harrelson?
was a great film. With both Scarlett and Penelope Cruz in the same?film I'm sure 
"Woody" was also an adjective often thrown around the set.



... ... ... ... ... ... 

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'Save me...
? save me?from Tomorrow..
??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? 





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From: Bette Dillinger <bettedillinger at live.com>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Saturday, November 1, 2008 2:00:51 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] Joaquin Phoenix quits film to work in music

Awww, I see......you're too busy listening to Scarlett "I am known for my twins, but I think I am a genius" Johanssen's record, her?incredible Tom Waits homage.......what's it called?? Uggggh ;0

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From: karen.weil at sddt.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:53:49 -0700
Subject: Re: [kj] Joaquin Phoenix quits film to work in music


Ugh, no thanks! 
?
; )
?
k.w.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Bette Dillinger 
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) 
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 2:38 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] Joaquin Phoenix quits film to work in music
Wha????????? You don't have Don's "Heartbeat" and Eddie's "My girl/boy likes to Party All the Time" on 24/7 rotation at your place? LOL


?
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From: wessidetempest at hotmail.com
To: vassifer at earthlink.net; gathering at misera.net
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 11:19:22 -0400
Subject: Re: [kj] Joaquin Phoenix quits film to work in music

The only thing that I can think I saw him in was Walk the Line.? And I appreciate that he is a good actor.? But I couldn't get into him being Johnny Cash.? BUT more importantly Reese Witherspoon SUCKED as June Carter.? While he was attempting the character she certainly was not.? But anyway.

Go ahead.? Retire.? See you in a few years in some obscure independent movie.? Eddie Murphy, Don Johnson, and so many others have tried with great success.

Chris

> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 10:10:16 -0400
> From: vassifer at earthlink.net
> To: gathering at misera.net; gathering at misera.net
> Subject: Re: [kj] Joaquin Phoenix quits film to work in music
> 
> 
> He was in "Walk the Line" -- which I didn't see (there's only ONE [1] Johnny Cash).
> 
> He was the fey Roman in "Gladiator" -- didn't see that either.
> 
> He was an obsessed slacker in the Nicole Kidman vehicle, "To Die For." Saw it, but don't remember it.
> 
> He was Diane Weist's masturbating adolescent in "Parenthood". Saw it. Heart warmed by it.
> 
> Alex in NYC
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
> >Sent: Oct 31, 2008 8:38 AM
> >To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
> >Subject: Re: [kj] Joaquin Phoenix quits film to work in music
> >
> >Random comment, but has anyone noticed how fucked his shoulders are? Dunno
> >if it's congenital or what, but must cause a bit of pain.
> >
> >Actually I can't think of a good movie I've seen him in. That Mel Gibson
> >alien thing was shit, that one where he's a drug smuggler in the
> >army...that was shit...still I don't think he's a bad actor. I musta seen
> >him in something...
> >
> >>
> >> It's his real name -- brother of the late River Phoenix. His parents
> >> were silly hippies.
> >>
> >> Alex in NYC
> >>
> >>
> >> On Oct 31, 2008, at 5:24 AM, Brendan wrote:
> >>
> >>> I don't mind Phoenix, (although his name sounds like a semi ridiculous
> >>> stage name, if it's not I stand corrected), but I thought him doing
> >>> Johnny
> >>> Cash was a bit luke warm to be honest.
> >>>
> >>>> Joaquin ---> Johnny ---> Jaz next?
> >>>>
> >>>> First he plays Johnny Cash, now he's quitting films forever to go
> >>>> into
> >>>> music.
> >>>> If only he could portray Jaz in the (now shelved?) KJ film in the
> >>>> works.
> >>>>
> >>>> Joaquin Phoenix
> >>>> http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/joaquinphoenix_blog.html
> >>>> vid
> >>>> http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b65859_Joaquin_Phoenix_Calls_It_a_Career_.html
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ... ... ... ... ... ...
> >>>>
> >>>> [looking at the current state of things..]
> >>>>
> >>>> 'Save me...
> >>>> save me from Tomorrow..
> >>>> I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com (sade1)
Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 18:58:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [kj] ON Topic - All Play Rebel - lyrics
Message-ID: <860881.20547.qm@web52611.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Anyone?

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From bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net  Sat Nov  1 22:31:10 2008
From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net (B. Oliver Sheppard)
Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 21:31:10 -0500
Subject: [kj] OT: LORDS OF THE NEW CHURCH
Message-ID: <490D10EE.9080203@sbcglobal.net>

The Dead Boys meet The Damned meet Sham 69, to invent the whole L.A. 
glam-goth thing:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9Whp5TvNKE


I admit, Brian James of The Damned, on lead guitar here -- his hair is 
the perfect hair I have been trying to copy for, like over a decade now. 
Stiv, on vocals, (RIP) is the definition of "big black hair."

Happy Halloween/Samhain,


-Oliver



From hollytree1961 at hotmail.com  Sat Nov  1 22:40:27 2008
From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com (melinda grant)
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 02:40:27 +0000
Subject: [kj] OT: LORDS OF THE NEW CHURCH
In-Reply-To: <490D10EE.9080203@sbcglobal.net>
References: <490D10EE.9080203@sbcglobal.net>
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they sound alot like generation x to me,if anyone remembers them,you know where billy idol started of !!
 
ps anyone else having difficulty sleeping tonight? i guess its because i got up real late--3.pm on sat afternoon ;D)))> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 21:31:10 -0500> From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: [kj] OT: LORDS OF THE NEW CHURCH> > The Dead Boys meet The Damned meet Sham 69, to invent the whole L.A. > glam-goth thing:> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9Whp5TvNKE> > > I admit, Brian James of The Damned, on lead guitar here -- his hair is > the perfect hair I have been trying to copy for, like over a decade now. > Stiv, on vocals, (RIP) is the definition of "big black hair."> > Happy Halloween/Samhain,> > > -Oliver> > > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
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From bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net  Sat Nov  1 22:55:26 2008
From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net (B. Oliver Sheppard)
Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 21:55:26 -0500
Subject: [kj] OT: LORDS OF THE NEW CHURCH
In-Reply-To: <BLU120-W37E82A27BC4F9184BA4718B8220@phx.gbl>
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I love Generation X. 100 punks .. rule!


You can't sleep because tonight is the real night of the dead. Samhain!


Speaking of which, let's all get out some November-Coming-Fire! (That LP 
has a serious KJ vibe, to me.)

-Oliver


melinda grant wrote:
> they sound alot like generation x to me,if anyone remembers them,you 
> know where billy idol started of !!
>  
> ps anyone else having difficulty sleeping tonight? i guess its because 
> i got up real late--3.pm on sat afternoon ;D)))


From hollytree1961 at hotmail.com  Sat Nov  1 23:00:17 2008
From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com (melinda grant)
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 03:00:17 +0000
Subject: [kj] OT: LORDS OF THE NEW CHURCH
In-Reply-To: <490D169E.1050803@sbcglobal.net>
References: <490D10EE.9080203@sbcglobal.net>
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cheers oliver love you to ;)))))
 
i also love gen x glad to hear your into them as well--my body clock is a bit fucked to amny late nights going out recently and partyiny ;)> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 21:55:26 -0500> From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: LORDS OF THE NEW CHURCH> > I love Generation X. 100 punks .. rule!> > > You can't sleep because tonight is the real night of the dead. Samhain!> > > Speaking of which, let's all get out some November-Coming-Fire! (That LP > has a serious KJ vibe, to me.)> > -Oliver> > > melinda grant wrote:> > they sound alot like generation x to me,if anyone remembers them,you > > know where billy idol started of !!> > > > ps anyone else having difficulty sleeping tonight? i guess its because > > i got up real late--3.pm on sat afternoon ;D)))> > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
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From saulomar1 at yahoo.com  Sat Nov  1 23:14:36 2008
From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com (sade1)
Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 20:14:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [kj] OT: LORDS OF THE NEW CHURCH
References: <490D10EE.9080203@sbcglobal.net>
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> anyone else having difficulty sleeping tonight? i guess its because...

...sending?out slews of emails can get tiring.


... ... ... ... ... ... 

[looking at the current?state of things..]
?
'Save me...
? save me?from Tomorrow..
??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? 





________________________________
From: melinda grant <hollytree1961 at hotmail.com>
To: gathering at misera.net
Sent: Saturday, November 1, 2008 7:40:27 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: LORDS OF THE NEW CHURCH

they sound alot like generation x to me,if anyone remembers them,you know where billy idol started of !!
?
ps anyone else having difficulty sleeping tonight? i guess its because i got up real late--3.pm on sat afternoon ;D)))

> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 21:31:10 -0500
> From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net
> To: gathering at misera.net
> Subject: [kj] OT: LORDS OF THE NEW CHURCH
> 
> The Dead Boys meet The Damned meet Sham 69, to invent the whole L.A. 
> glam-goth thing:
> 
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9Whp5TvNKE
> 
> 
> I admit, Brian James of The Damned, on lead guitar here -- his hair is 
> the perfect hair I have been trying to copy for, like over a decade now. 
> Stiv, on vocals, (RIP) is the definition of "big black hair."
> 
> Happy Halloween/Samhain,
> 
> 
> -Oliver
> 
> 
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From hollytree1961 at hotmail.com  Sat Nov  1 23:17:37 2008
From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com (melinda grant)
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 03:17:37 +0000
Subject: [kj] OT: LORDS OF THE NEW CHURCH
In-Reply-To: <688720.68108.qm@web52606.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <490D10EE.9080203@sbcglobal.net>
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lol ;D))) yeah i am feeling apathetic ;) i am fed up and board lol

Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 20:14:36 -0700From: saulomar1 at yahoo.comTo: gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] OT: LORDS OF THE NEW CHURCH





> anyone else having difficulty sleeping tonight? i guess its because...
 
...sending out slews of emails can get tiring.
 
 
... ... ... ... ... ... 
[looking at the current state of things..]
 
'Save me...
  save me from Tomorrow..
    I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'   
 




From: melinda grant <hollytree1961 at hotmail.com>To: gathering at misera.netSent: Saturday, November 1, 2008 7:40:27 PMSubject: Re: [kj] OT: LORDS OF THE NEW CHURCH

they sound alot like generation x to me,if anyone remembers them,you know where billy idol started of !! ps anyone else having difficulty sleeping tonight? i guess its because i got up real late--3.pm on sat afternoon ;D)))> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 21:31:10 -0500> From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: [kj] OT: LORDS OF THE NEW CHURCH> > The Dead Boys meet The Damned meet Sham 69, to invent the whole L.A. > glam-goth thing:> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9Whp5TvNKE> > > I admit, Brian James of The Damned, on lead guitar here -- his hair is > the perfect hair I have been trying to copy for, like over a decade now. > Stiv, on vocals, (RIP) is the definition of "big black hair."> > Happy Halloween/Samhain,> > > -Oliver> > > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering

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From bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net  Sat Nov  1 23:30:36 2008
From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net (B. Oliver Sheppard)
Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 22:30:36 -0500
Subject: [kj] OT: LORDS OF THE NEW CHURCH
In-Reply-To: <BLU120-W41C43D708EF8C1B2316DAB8220@phx.gbl>
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SAMHAIN, "Archangel," live, 1984:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKc0WnNxvpE


Glenn Danzig originally wrote this song for The Damned to perform. No joke.

-Oliver



melinda grant wrote:
> lol ;D))) yeah i am feeling apathetic ;) i am fed up and board lol
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>


From hollytree1961 at hotmail.com  Sun Nov  2 00:02:09 2008
From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com (melinda grant)
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 04:02:09 +0000
Subject: [kj] OT: LORDS OF THE NEW CHURCH
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i can see why ;) never herd it befor and i cannot make out the lyrics,must be getting old then lol,hang on just putting in my hearing aid ;D)))))          PS yeah,that track will keep me awake until next week lol WEEK !!                                                                                   i am watching episodes of --the sweeny-- on dvd to pass the time and drinking red wine-lovely ;)> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 22:30:36 -0500> From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: LORDS OF THE NEW CHURCH> > SAMHAIN, "Archangel," live, 1984:> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKc0WnNxvpE> > > Glenn Danzig originally wrote this song for The Damned to perform. No joke.> > -Oliver> > > > melinda grant wrote:> > lol ;D))) yeah i am feeling apathetic ;) i am fed up and board lol> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------> >> > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
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From bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net  Sun Nov  2 00:06:47 2008
From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net (B. Oliver Sheppard)
Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 23:06:47 -0500
Subject: [kj] OT: LORDS OF THE NEW CHURCH
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The Damned and The Misfits went on a brief England tour together in 1979 
or 1980. (Talk about legendary, wish-I-could-have-been-there shows!) The 
Damned/Misfits UK tour is one of those legendary tours...

While in England, Glenn Danzig got thrown in jail, and that is where he 
wrote "London Dungeon" for The Misfits. When he got out, he wrote 
"Archangel" for The Damned to perform. For some reason or another, The 
Damned never did "Archangel," so Glenn Danzig used it as a Samhain song, 
and it's on their first LP, _Initium_, with members of Reagan Youth and 
Minor Threat playing on it. Just crazy-interesting punk music trivia.


ARCHANGEL
lyrics Glenn Danzig

Heaven sends me here to you
And if a-you fear you've reason to
Open up all seven seals
The beast is come to claim the youth

Archangel
Archangel
Defiant brood
Defiant brood
I call on you

Casted down my bretheren
Rebels from authority
Power, pride, contempt and lust
All these things I give to you

Archangel
Archangel
Defiant brood
Defiant brood
I call on you

I am not your son of God
The prince of light will show no fear
Mine is that which rules this world
The beast is come, I am the end

Archangel, oh-oh-oh-oh....

-Oliver



melinda grant wrote:
> i can see why ;) never herd it befor and i cannot make out the 
> lyrics,must be getting old then lol,hang on just putting in my hearing 
> aid ;D)))))          PS yeah,that track will keep me awake until next 
> week 
> lol WEEK !!                                                                                   
>
> i am watching episodes of --the sweeny-- on dvd to pass the time and 
> drinking red wine-lovely ;)


From hollytree1961 at hotmail.com  Sun Nov  2 00:19:50 2008
From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com (melinda grant)
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 04:19:50 +0000
Subject: [kj] OT: LORDS OF THE NEW CHURCH
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thanks for the education i think i may try and get hold of the c.d  now i am going to try and sleep ;D  cheers for those lyrics--for   bothering to post them up-all hard of hearing  on the list will appreciate lol !!> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 23:06:47 -0500> From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: LORDS OF THE NEW CHURCH> > The Damned and The Misfits went on a brief England tour together in 1979 > or 1980. (Talk about legendary, wish-I-could-have-been-there shows!) The > Damned/Misfits UK tour is one of those legendary tours...> > While in England, Glenn Danzig got thrown in jail, and that is where he > wrote "London Dungeon" for The Misfits. When he got out, he wrote > "Archangel" for The Damned to perform. For some reason or another, The > Damned never did "Archangel," so Glenn Danzig used it as a Samhain song, > and it's on their first LP, _Initium_, with members of Reagan Youth and > Minor Threat playing on it. Just crazy-interesting punk music trivia.> > > ARCHANGEL> lyrics Glenn Danzig> > Heaven sends me here to you> And if a-you fear you've reason to> Open up all seven seals> The beast is come to claim the youth> > Archangel> Archangel> Defiant brood> Defiant brood> I call on you> > Casted down my bretheren> Rebels from authority> Power, pride, contempt and lust> All these things I give to you> > Archangel> Archangel> Defiant brood> Defiant brood> I call on you> > I am not your son of God> The prince of light will show no fear> Mine is that which rules this world> The beast is come, I am the end> > Archangel, oh-oh-oh-oh....> > -Oliver> > > > melinda grant wrote:> > i can see why ;) never herd it befor and i cannot make out the > > lyrics,must be getting old then lol,hang on just putting in my hearing > > aid ;D))))) PS yeah,that track will keep me awake until next > > week > > lol WEEK !! > >> > i am watching episodes of --the sweeny-- on dvd to pass the time and > > drinking red wine-lovely ;)> > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
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From bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net  Sun Nov  2 00:34:23 2008
From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net (B. Oliver Sheppard)
Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 23:34:23 -0500
Subject: [kj] OT: LORDS OF THE NEW CHURCH
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Well, since today, Nov. 1, is actually SAMHAIN, it seemed apropos to 
post some Samhain music.

I still think Samhain's last (and best) LP, _November-Coming-Fire_ has a 
lot of seeming Killing Joke influence.

Also, probably a lot of KJ fans have an interest in horror punk-type 
groups like The Damned and the (original) Misfits. It's still weird and 
cool to me that The Damned and The Misfits toured together. Would love 
to find any live recordings from those shows. As far as I know, no 
PHOTOS, much less AUDIO, exists from the legendary Damned/Misfits tour 
of England from '79/'80. All I know that came of it is The Misfits song 
"London Dungeon."

-Oliver



melinda grant wrote:
> thanks for the education i think i may try and get hold of the c.d  
> now i am going to try and sleep ;D  cheers for those lyrics--for   
> bothering to post them up-all hard of hearing  on the list will 
> appreciate lol !!
>


From christophe.barry at wanadoo.fr  Sun Nov  2 01:33:44 2008
From: christophe.barry at wanadoo.fr (Christophe BARRY)
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 07:33:44 +0100
Subject: [kj] Berlin PHOTOS - Happy Halloween (little late)
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Nice job
ta

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Objet?: [kj] Berlin PHOTOS - Happy Halloween (little late)


Finnaly managed to edit the pics and upload them to the server, hope you'll
like them, even though they are mostly not perfect quality, but I did my
best...almost : )

Appo

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From vassifer at earthlink.net  Sun Nov  2 09:10:31 2008
From: vassifer at earthlink.net (Alexander Smith)
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 09:10:31 -0500
Subject: [kj] OT: LORDS OF THE NEW CHURCH
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Always wondered - who from Minor Threat helped out? Lyle Preslar?

Alex in NYC


On Nov 2, 2008, at 12:06 AM, B. Oliver Sheppard wrote:

> The Damned and The Misfits went on a brief England tour together in  
> 1979 or 1980. (Talk about legendary, wish-I-could-have-been-there  
> shows!) The Damned/Misfits UK tour is one of those legendary tours...
>
> While in England, Glenn Danzig got thrown in jail, and that is where  
> he wrote "London Dungeon" for The Misfits. When he got out, he wrote  
> "Archangel" for The Damned to perform. For some reason or another,  
> The Damned never did "Archangel," so Glenn Danzig used it as a  
> Samhain song, and it's on their first LP, _Initium_, with members of  
> Reagan Youth and Minor Threat playing on it. Just crazy-interesting  
> punk music trivia.
>
>
> ARCHANGEL
> lyrics Glenn Danzig
>
> Heaven sends me here to you
> And if a-you fear you've reason to
> Open up all seven seals
> The beast is come to claim the youth
>
> Archangel
> Archangel
> Defiant brood
> Defiant brood
> I call on you
>
> Casted down my bretheren
> Rebels from authority
> Power, pride, contempt and lust
> All these things I give to you
>
> Archangel
> Archangel
> Defiant brood
> Defiant brood
> I call on you
>
> I am not your son of God
> The prince of light will show no fear
> Mine is that which rules this world
> The beast is come, I am the end
>
> Archangel, oh-oh-oh-oh....
>
> -Oliver
>
>
>
> melinda grant wrote:
>> i can see why ;) never herd it befor and i cannot make out the  
>> lyrics,must be getting old then lol,hang on just putting in my  
>> hearing aid ;D)))))          PS yeah,that track will keep me awake  
>> until next week lol WEEK !!
>> i am watching episodes of --the sweeny-- on dvd to pass the time  
>> and drinking red wine-lovely ;)
>
> _______________________________________________
> Gathering mailing list
> Gathering at misera.net
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From hollytree1961 at hotmail.com  Sun Nov  2 09:57:28 2008
From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com (melinda grant)
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 14:57:28 +0000
Subject: [kj] OT: LORDS OF THE NEW CHURCH
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its actually the 2nd nov ;D  have you tried  a punk or goth music convention also known as a fair? we have alot of these in uk about every week in london where you can get hold of rare music items,long players-bootlegs audio n dvd-photos- well memorabilia really or how about ebay? or why dont you advertise what your looking for in a  punk/goth mag,there must be someone who has just what your looking for to either swop or sell to you ;),good luck> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 23:34:23 -0500> From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: LORDS OF THE NEW CHURCH> > Well, since today, Nov. 1, is actually SAMHAIN, it seemed apropos to > post some Samhain music.> > I still think Samhain's last (and best) LP, _November-Coming-Fire_ has a > lot of seeming Killing Joke influence.> > Also, probably a lot of KJ fans have an interest in horror punk-type > groups like The Damned and the (original) Misfits. It's still weird and > cool to me that The Damned and The Misfits toured together. Would love > to find any live recordings from those shows. As far as I know, no > PHOTOS, much less AUDIO, exists from the legendary Damned/Misfits tour > of England from '79/'80. All I know that came of it is The Misfits song > "London Dungeon."> > -Oliver> > > > melinda grant wrote:> > thanks for the education i think i may try and get hold of the c.d > > now i am going to try and sleep ;D cheers for those lyrics--for > > bothering to post them up-all hard of hearing on the list will > > appreciate lol !!> >> > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
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From ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk  Sun Nov  2 11:35:31 2008
From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk (ade)
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 16:35:31 -0000
Subject: [kj] OT: LORDS OF THE NEW CHURCH
Message-ID: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC0722A0@mr-pants.the-lab.local>

Not into the Misfits myself, but yeah, lurve The Damned!

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[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of B. Oliver Sheppard
Sent: 02 November 2008 04:34
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: LORDS OF THE NEW CHURCH


Well, since today, Nov. 1, is actually SAMHAIN, it seemed apropos to 
post some Samhain music.

I still think Samhain's last (and best) LP, _November-Coming-Fire_ has a 
lot of seeming Killing Joke influence.

Also, probably a lot of KJ fans have an interest in horror punk-type 
groups like The Damned and the (original) Misfits. It's still weird and 
cool to me that The Damned and The Misfits toured together. Would love 
to find any live recordings from those shows. As far as I know, no 
PHOTOS, much less AUDIO, exists from the legendary Damned/Misfits tour 
of England from '79/'80. All I know that came of it is The Misfits song 
"London Dungeon."

-Oliver



melinda grant wrote:
> thanks for the education i think i may try and get hold of the c.d  
> now i am going to try and sleep ;D  cheers for those lyrics--for   
> bothering to post them up-all hard of hearing  on the list will 
> appreciate lol !!
>

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From hgrey at earthlink.net  Sun Nov  2 12:31:10 2008
From: hgrey at earthlink.net (Harold Grey)
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 09:31:10 -0800
Subject: [kj] OT: The Lords
Message-ID: <6ADCBDCB-1B9A-46AF-BC74-B2506032716A@earthlink.net>

Not to date myself, but I saw Lords of the New Church in the early  
80s at a small club in in Coney Island called the Brooklyn Zoo (aptly  
named!) They were awesome and Stiv was outstanding. This was shortly  
after their debut album came out.


From jpwhkj at aol.com  Sun Nov  2 14:37:00 2008
From: jpwhkj at aol.com (jpwhkj at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 14:37:00 -0500
Subject: [kj] OT: LORDS OF THE NEW CHURCH
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Don't forget the Barracudas (Nicky Turner).

The first gig I ever went to featured the Lords supporting the Damned (Hammy Palais 1983).? I was completely blown away by the Lords, and they stayed in my top three bands for a couple of years thereafter.? But by the time the third album came out, I was losing interest.

Nonetheless - RIP Stiv - he was a great frontman.

Jamie




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Sent: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 2:31
Subject: [kj] OT: LORDS OF THE NEW CHURCH


The Dead Boys meet The Damned meet Sham 69, to invent the whole L.A. glam-goth thing:?
?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9Whp5TvNKE?
?
I admit, Brian James of The Damned, on lead guitar here -- his hair is the perfect hair I have been trying to copy for, like over a decade now. Stiv, on vocals, (RIP) is the definition of "big black hair."?
?
Happy Halloween/Samhain,?
?
-Oliver?
?
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From wessidetempest at hotmail.com  Sun Nov  2 14:58:29 2008
From: wessidetempest at hotmail.com (Christof hamille)
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 14:58:29 -0500
Subject: [kj] OT: LORDS OF THE NEW CHURCH
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If you are referring to the Fiendfest tour of a few years back don't get to excited.  Misfits were crap.  Damned were good but predictable.  The Dickies stole the show and were on fire.  Agnostic Front were more enjoyable since the machismo crowd was not in full effect. Balzac did a better Misfits then the Misfits.  D.I. were....forgettable.

Chris

> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 23:34:23 -0500
> From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net
> To: gathering at misera.net
> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: LORDS OF THE NEW CHURCH
> 
> Well, since today, Nov. 1, is actually SAMHAIN, it seemed apropos to 
> post some Samhain music.
> 
> I still think Samhain's last (and best) LP, _November-Coming-Fire_ has a 
> lot of seeming Killing Joke influence.
> 
> Also, probably a lot of KJ fans have an interest in horror punk-type 
> groups like The Damned and the (original) Misfits. It's still weird and 
> cool to me that The Damned and The Misfits toured together. Would love 
> to find any live recordings from those shows. As far as I know, no 
> PHOTOS, much less AUDIO, exists from the legendary Damned/Misfits tour 
> of England from '79/'80. All I know that came of it is The Misfits song 
> "London Dungeon."
> 
> -Oliver
> 
> 
> 
> melinda grant wrote:
> > thanks for the education i think i may try and get hold of the c.d  
> > now i am going to try and sleep ;D  cheers for those lyrics--for   
> > bothering to post them up-all hard of hearing  on the list will 
> > appreciate lol !!
> >
> 
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From wessidetempest at hotmail.com  Sun Nov  2 15:01:08 2008
From: wessidetempest at hotmail.com (Christof hamille)
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 15:01:08 -0500
Subject: [kj] OT: LORDS OF THE NEW CHURCH
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The Lords were one of my favs for a long time.  The first album is perfect.  I got to see them twice.  Unfortunately  was pretty wasted at both of them and don't remember much of it.  What I do remember is that on their last tour through Stiv almost hung himself on a low hanging light beam.  he jumped up and his head got stuck and he was thrashing about for several seconds and then his noggin came loose.

> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 21:55:26 -0500
> From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net
> To: gathering at misera.net
> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: LORDS OF THE NEW CHURCH
> 
> I love Generation X. 100 punks .. rule!
> 
> 
> You can't sleep because tonight is the real night of the dead. Samhain!
> 
> 
> Speaking of which, let's all get out some November-Coming-Fire! (That LP 
> has a serious KJ vibe, to me.)
> 
> -Oliver
> 
> 
> melinda grant wrote:
> > they sound alot like generation x to me,if anyone remembers them,you 
> > know where billy idol started of !!
> >  
> > ps anyone else having difficulty sleeping tonight? i guess its because 
> > i got up real late--3.pm on sat afternoon ;D)))
> 
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From wessidetempest at hotmail.com  Sun Nov  2 15:05:46 2008
From: wessidetempest at hotmail.com (Christof hamille)
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 15:05:46 -0500
Subject: [kj] Berlin PHOTOS - Happy Halloween (little late)
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Nice photos.

I know this is a little late but I do have to commend Reza for nailing the keyboard tone.  I think he was to high in the mix in NYC but that is not his fault.  BUT....did he need 3 keyboards AND a Mac?  I would say no.  Unless he got some sort of sponsorship from Apple

Happy belated halloween

I'm wrecked

Chris

> From: christophe.barry at wanadoo.fr
> To: gathering at misera.net
> Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 07:33:44 +0100
> Subject: Re: [kj] Berlin PHOTOS - Happy Halloween (little late)
> 
> Nice job
> ta
> 
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> Envoy? : samedi 1 novembre 2008 18:33
> ? : A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
> Objet : [kj] Berlin PHOTOS - Happy Halloween (little late)
> 
> 
> Finnaly managed to edit the pics and upload them to the server, hope you'll
> like them, even though they are mostly not perfect quality, but I did my
> best...almost : )
> 
> Appo
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From partyslammer at socal.rr.com  Sun Nov  2 15:16:46 2008
From: partyslammer at socal.rr.com (TB)
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 12:16:46 -0800
Subject: [kj] OT: The Lords
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"Harold Grey" wrote:


> Not to date myself, but I saw Lords of the New Church in the early  80s at 
> a small club in in Coney Island called the Brooklyn Zoo (aptly  named!) 
> They were awesome and Stiv was outstanding. This was shortly  after their 
> debut album came out.

In a lot of ways, The Lords along with Hanoi Rocks were a few years ahead of 
their time and bands like Guns n' Roses really snaked a lot of their act of 
The Lords.  I'll always contend The Lords debut album is a stone classic.

I know I've probably mentioned this too many times already, but I was a huge 
fan of The Lords (that was my "partyslammer" youtube profile that vid came 
from, btw) and I met and hung out with Stiv and the rest of the band many 
times around local shows between '83 - '86.  Stiv could be a really cool, 
pretty sharp guy, usually when fairly sober and either dangerously hilarious 
or at worst, an obnoxious asshole loaded.

A couple key incidents involving Stiv include introducing a friend to him 
outside Fender's Ballroom in Long Beach in '85 after a show (in which a 
young Gun's n' Roses opened!) and a clearly trashed Stiv reaches out to 
shake the guy's hand and promptly projectile vomits on him.  Another was 
when The Lords had left IRS Records and were playing almost weekly shows in 
any dive bar they could get booked at to make quick cash around '86 in 
Southern California (after original bass player Dave Tregunna left because 
he knew Miles Copeland was ripping off the band).  They played a really 
crummy club in Huntington Beach to maybe 30 people basically a 5 minute walk 
from my place and Stiv and a roadie/drug dealer came over after the show and 
watched "Apocalypse Now" after I bragged about how good the "new" laserdisc" 
was (Stiv was a huge Jim Morrison fan and a big fan of the movie as can be 
heard on the song "Russian Roulette").  A few days later, I got Stiv to sign 
the LD sleeve ("Jim Lives  Stiv Bator"):

[IMG]http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h26/Partyslammer/apocalypsestivldcover.jpg[/IMG]

Here's another sleeve the band signed:

[IMG]http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h26/Partyslammer/LordsSignedEP.jpg[/IMG]

I also had a lot of conversations with drummer Nicky Turner who was a pretty 
cool guy who was probably the one member of the band that had his head 
screwed on straight, although he kind of went to the dark side when he began 
working for Copeland as a "talent scout" when he figured there was no real 
future drumming for The Lords.  Now, he almost is ashamed to recall his days 
in the band.

These days, I keep (or maybe kept) infrequent contact with Brian James 
through his manager (who unfortunately just quit managing James).  I have 
also held onto and never traded or torrented a 1st generation copy of a 
pretty amazing/amusing band-produced documentary the band did the last year 
they were together in 1988 when they gave one last effort to land a new 
record contract.  Recently Brian James wanted to release it in conjunction 
with the "remixed" classic tracks cd "Rockers" (highly recommended if you 
can find it, btw) that came out earlier this year but the interest was so 
miniscule and Brian's focus so scattered these days, I doubt it'll ever 
officially see the light of day.

T.B. 


From mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk  Sun Nov  2 15:46:52 2008
From: mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk (Mike Cooper)
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 20:46:52 -0000
Subject: [kj] Berlin PHOTOS - Happy Halloween (little late)
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Amazing pics - many thanks for putting those up.

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Sent: 01 November 2008 17:33
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: [kj] Berlin PHOTOS - Happy Halloween (little late)


Finnaly managed to edit the pics and upload them to the server, hope you'll
like them, even though they are mostly not perfect quality, but I did my
best...almost : )

Appo

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From wessidetempest at hotmail.com  Sun Nov  2 16:02:20 2008
From: wessidetempest at hotmail.com (Christof hamille)
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 16:02:20 -0500
Subject: [kj] OT: The Lords
In-Reply-To: <5F1141D0E5CF4D16BBD88B2E59C7F25C@Bell2007PC>
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I am jealous.  The documentary sounds really cool.  I had the same single signed by the band too.  But someone walked off with it years later.  

Wasn't there going to be a box set too?

long live Stiv

Chris

> From: partyslammer at socal.rr.com
> To: gathering at misera.net
> Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 12:16:46 -0800
> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: The Lords
> 
> "Harold Grey" wrote:
> 
> 
> > Not to date myself, but I saw Lords of the New Church in the early  80s at 
> > a small club in in Coney Island called the Brooklyn Zoo (aptly  named!) 
> > They were awesome and Stiv was outstanding. This was shortly  after their 
> > debut album came out.
> 
> In a lot of ways, The Lords along with Hanoi Rocks were a few years ahead of 
> their time and bands like Guns n' Roses really snaked a lot of their act of 
> The Lords.  I'll always contend The Lords debut album is a stone classic.
> 
> I know I've probably mentioned this too many times already, but I was a huge 
> fan of The Lords (that was my "partyslammer" youtube profile that vid came 
> from, btw) and I met and hung out with Stiv and the rest of the band many 
> times around local shows between '83 - '86.  Stiv could be a really cool, 
> pretty sharp guy, usually when fairly sober and either dangerously hilarious 
> or at worst, an obnoxious asshole loaded.
> 
> A couple key incidents involving Stiv include introducing a friend to him 
> outside Fender's Ballroom in Long Beach in '85 after a show (in which a 
> young Gun's n' Roses opened!) and a clearly trashed Stiv reaches out to 
> shake the guy's hand and promptly projectile vomits on him.  Another was 
> when The Lords had left IRS Records and were playing almost weekly shows in 
> any dive bar they could get booked at to make quick cash around '86 in 
> Southern California (after original bass player Dave Tregunna left because 
> he knew Miles Copeland was ripping off the band).  They played a really 
> crummy club in Huntington Beach to maybe 30 people basically a 5 minute walk 
> from my place and Stiv and a roadie/drug dealer came over after the show and 
> watched "Apocalypse Now" after I bragged about how good the "new" laserdisc" 
> was (Stiv was a huge Jim Morrison fan and a big fan of the movie as can be 
> heard on the song "Russian Roulette").  A few days later, I got Stiv to sign 
> the LD sleeve ("Jim Lives  Stiv Bator"):
> 
> [IMG]http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h26/Partyslammer/apocalypsestivldcover.jpg[/IMG]
> 
> Here's another sleeve the band signed:
> 
> [IMG]http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h26/Partyslammer/LordsSignedEP.jpg[/IMG]
> 
> I also had a lot of conversations with drummer Nicky Turner who was a pretty 
> cool guy who was probably the one member of the band that had his head 
> screwed on straight, although he kind of went to the dark side when he began 
> working for Copeland as a "talent scout" when he figured there was no real 
> future drumming for The Lords.  Now, he almost is ashamed to recall his days 
> in the band.
> 
> These days, I keep (or maybe kept) infrequent contact with Brian James 
> through his manager (who unfortunately just quit managing James).  I have 
> also held onto and never traded or torrented a 1st generation copy of a 
> pretty amazing/amusing band-produced documentary the band did the last year 
> they were together in 1988 when they gave one last effort to land a new 
> record contract.  Recently Brian James wanted to release it in conjunction 
> with the "remixed" classic tracks cd "Rockers" (highly recommended if you 
> can find it, btw) that came out earlier this year but the interest was so 
> miniscule and Brian's focus so scattered these days, I doubt it'll ever 
> officially see the light of day.
> 
> T.B. 
> 
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From angrytomhanks at yahoo.com  Sun Nov  2 16:45:45 2008
From: angrytomhanks at yahoo.com (Leigh Newton)
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 13:45:45 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [kj] OT: LORDS OF THE NEW CHURCH
Message-ID: <275014.36419.qm@web65703.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>

Figures that the Dickies stole the show. They always manage to kill it no matter how much time goes by or the fact that it's always a different bunch of session dudes backing Leonard and Stan up. Loooove the Dickies. A truly unsung band. Dawn of the Dickies and the Incredible Shrinking Dickies are 2 amazing albums.

Leigh


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From: Christof hamille <wessidetempest at hotmail.com>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2008 2:58:29 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: LORDS OF THE NEW CHURCH

 If you are referring to the Fiendfest tour of a few years back don't get to excited.  Misfits were crap.  Damned were good but predictable.  The Dickies stole the show and were on fire.  Agnostic Front were more enjoyable since the machismo crowd was not in full effect. Balzac did a better Misfits then the Misfits.  D.I. were....forgettable.

Chris

> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 23:34:23 -0500
> From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net
> To: gathering at misera.net
> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: LORDS OF THE NEW CHURCH
> 
> Well, since today, Nov. 1, is actually SAMHAIN, it seemed apropos to 
> post some Samhain music.
> 
> I still think Samhain's last (and best) LP, _November-Coming-Fire_ has a 
> lot of seeming Killing Joke influence.
> 
> Also, probably a lot of KJ fans have an interest in horror punk-type 
> groups like The Damned and the (original) Misfits. It's still weird and 
> cool to me that The Damned and The Misfits toured together. Would love 
> to find any live recordings from those shows. As far as I know, no 
> PHOTOS, much less AUDIO, exists from the legendary Damned/Misfits tour 
> of England from '79/'80. All I know that came of it is The Misfits song 
> "London Dungeon."
> 
> -Oliver
> 
> 
> 
> melinda grant wrote:
> > thanks for the education i think i may try and get hold of the c.d 
> > now i am going to try and sleep ;D  cheers for those lyrics--for 
> > bothering to post them up-all hard of hearing  on the list will 
> > appreciate lol !!
> >
> 
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From christophe.barry at wanadoo.fr  Sun Nov  2 12:55:15 2008
From: christophe.barry at wanadoo.fr (Christophe BARRY)
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 18:55:15 +0100
Subject: [kj] OT: The Lords
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I saw them opening for our favorite boyz band in the late 80's in Lyon...
Christophe

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Envoy??: dimanche 2 novembre 2008 18:31
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Objet?: [kj] OT: The Lords


Not to date myself, but I saw Lords of the New Church in the early  
80s at a small club in in Coney Island called the Brooklyn Zoo (aptly  
named!) They were awesome and Stiv was outstanding. This was shortly  
after their debut album came out.

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From partyslammer at socal.rr.com  Sun Nov  2 17:54:37 2008
From: partyslammer at socal.rr.com (TB)
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 14:54:37 -0800
Subject: [kj] OT: The Lords
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"Christof hamille" wrote:

I am jealous.  The documentary sounds really cool.  I had the same single 
signed by the band too.  But someone walked off with it years later.

Wasn't there going to be a box set too?

+++++++++++
Yeah.  Like a lot of projects Brian James arbitrarily comes up and soon 
loses interest in, there was going to be a multi cd/dvd box set for '08 
comprised of several live shows along with the '88 documentary spanning the 
band's career which was to follow close on the heels of the "Rockers" cd 
release.  This was to tie in with a proposed "Brian James Gang" '08 tour 
which would have featured my friend Adam Becvare from The Black Halos 
fronting the band which would have included Dave Tregunna on bass.

Several issues apparently derailed the project before it really got off the 
ground including the hard fact that Brian doesn't have any recordings or 
access to any pro-recorded shows aside from the already released "Live at 
the Spit," "Scene of the Crime" and "Second Coming" along with the 
semi-official "My Father's Place" recording all of which have been released 
several times in repackaged compilations (see the two "Lords Prayer" 
releases).  Brian actually had to wind up using a semi-decent 1982 tour 
bootleg recording as the 2nd disc on the "Rockers" release.  I don't even 
think Brian has the rights to re-release the "Live at the Marquee" show from 
late '83 that's been in and out of print on vhs and (a very rare) dvd for 
decades.

It should be noted, a couple years ago Brian *did* record and self-release a 
solo album and the cd single included a cover of The Damned's "New Rose" and 
The Lords' "Method To Our Madness" with Dave Tregunna singing that was 
pretty decent although I doubt it sold more than a few hundred discs. 
Here's a video for the title track:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgI8HGOiViM

At this point, there's been talk that Adam may write, record and tour with 
Brian in the near future, but who knows?  From all accounts, it's tough 
motivating Brian to do much of anything and interest in his stuff, old or 
new is pretty minimal.

T.B.


From partyslammer at socal.rr.com  Sun Nov  2 18:10:26 2008
From: partyslammer at socal.rr.com (TB)
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 15:10:26 -0800
Subject: [kj] OT: The Lords
In-Reply-To: <30906E7CD4D84A5E81C14107ED3D1984@osadm.net>
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"Christophe BARRY" wrote:


I saw them opening for our favorite boyz band in the late 80's in Lyon...
Christophe

++++++

Wow.  That would have been a killer show.

T.B.

From bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net  Sun Nov  2 22:48:23 2008
From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net (B. Oliver Sheppard)
Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 21:48:23 -0600
Subject: [kj] OT: LORDS OF THE NEW CHURCH
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Yeah, Lyle Preslar played on about half the tracks of the first Samhain 
LP. I have a 1st pressing of Samhain's Initium on vinyl and Lyle Preslar 
is indeed credited with guitars on about half the tracks, on the back of 
the LP sleeve. I have been trying unsuccessfully to sell this LP for a 
long time. It has the Lodi, New Jersey PO Box on it for Plan 9 Records, 
no bar code, etc.


-Oliver

Alexander Smith wrote:
>
> Always wondered - who from Minor Threat helped out? Lyle Preslar?
>
> Alex in NYC


From gingoblin at easynet.co.uk  Mon Nov  3 05:47:13 2008
From: gingoblin at easynet.co.uk (gingoblin at easynet.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 10:47:13 +0000
Subject: [kj] OT - The Damned @ The Late Late Show (Craig
 Ferguson)	10/30/2008
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I agree with the bring back Rat bit... the current guy is okay, but just 
doesn't have the flair of Rat... you just never knew what he was gonna pull 
out of the hat.  Can't agree with the bring back Brian bit though... he 
plays his stuff better, but there's no way he could tackle the majority of 
the Damned canon.  Though if you just mean this clip, then yeah, okay!!

But by god, like Chris says, at least it's not Patricia! If you can't play 
Neat Neat Neat or Love Song on bass, YOU CAN'T BE IN THE DAMNED!!  It 
didn't stop them though! My god they were poor for a while there...

Still really looking forward to seeing 'em up here in a month though!

Dave in Edinburgh



At 09:09 01/11/2008 -0400, you wrote:

>Ways to improve this:
>
>Ditch the keyboard player.
>Bring back Rat Scabies.
>Bring back Brian James
>Put Dave on a diet.
>
>Alex in NYC
>
>
>On Nov 1, 2008, at 8:32 AM, Christof hamille wrote:
>
>>The bass player isn't playing it right.  Which then sounds off.  I know 
>>it is modified so Dave won't be as disgusted (he has been noted of being 
>>tired of playing the "old hits" day after day) with the song but 
>>still.  That bass line is pretty crucial to that song.  At least Dave's 
>>plugs are staying in and I like the "proper" British gentleman complete 
>>with monocle and gloves.
>>
>>And whatmakes it odder is that Captain originally played it.
>>
>>At least Patricia isn't in the band.
>>
>>Chris
>>
>>
>>----------
>>To: <mailto:gathering at misera.net>gathering at misera.net
>>Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:08:13 -0400
>>From: <mailto:countessghoulita at aol.com>countessghoulita at aol.com
>>Subject: [kj] OT - The Damned @ The Late Late Show (Craig Ferguson)10/30/2008
>>
>>The Dammed will play tonight with The Adolescents at the HOB in LA:
>>
>><http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kS-r-ir90sc>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kS-r-ir90sc
>>
>>Happy Halloween!
>>
>>
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From cliffmonk at gmail.com  Mon Nov  3 06:28:04 2008
From: cliffmonk at gmail.com (Cliff Livingston)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 02:28:04 -0900
Subject: [kj] ot New Concentration AMPS Track
Message-ID: <13071bf00811030328u6467f437oafbc11bc7bd6de7f@mail.gmail.com>

Hiya Here's my latest project,finally got this mix ready to hear,work in
progress and few mixes will be made.Have a free download and a listen.Enjoy
CliffMonk

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From circusbar at uol.com.br  Mon Nov  3 06:45:58 2008
From: circusbar at uol.com.br (Jokers)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 09:45:58 -0200
Subject: [kj] Berlin PHOTOS - Happy Halloween (little late)
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Fabulous pictures!!!!!

really apreciated!!!!

d i a z

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From fatpotanga at gmail.com  Mon Nov  3 06:51:53 2008
From: fatpotanga at gmail.com (fatpotanga)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 11:51:53 +0000
Subject: [kj] OT: Lev and Thumpbot play Crazy
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This made me happy:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=19RJEnNUg1I







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From crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk  Mon Nov  3 07:19:57 2008
From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk (Change)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 12:19:57 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [kj] Bonzo Goes to Hell
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Press Release
STATEMENT FROM MICKEY LEIGH


FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
October 30, 2008



STATEMENT FROM MICKEY LEIGH:


'It has been brought to my attention that Linda Cummings, using the name "Ramone," has recently been in the media joining with the Palin family and the McCains to attempt to aid their campaign for the Presidency. As a President of Ramones Productions, and brother of Joey Ramone, I just want it to  
be clear that Linda Cummings does not represent the political views of the Ramones. Surely, as for Joey Ramone, the only Ramones song he would sing at a Republican campaign event would be ?Glad To See You Go!'

'I should add that when Johnny stated ?God Bless George Bush' at the 2002 Rock&Roll Hall of Fame awards, I realize now that he was on to something. Because if it were not for George Bush and his handling of our country the past 8 years, I doubt so many Americans, including so many highly regarded Republicans, would now be getting behind Barack Obama. So, yes, thank God for George Bush for paving the way to Obama.'


~ ~ Mickey Leigh




      

From crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk  Mon Nov  3 07:20:03 2008
From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk (Change)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 12:20:03 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [kj] Bonzo Goes to Hell
In-Reply-To: <B74A1FBF4AA04EFF8161D9FA0CCEFCBC@osadm.net>
Message-ID: <151334.84388.qm@web23202.mail.ird.yahoo.com>

Press Release
STATEMENT FROM MICKEY LEIGH


FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
October 30, 2008



STATEMENT FROM MICKEY LEIGH:


'It has been brought to my attention that Linda Cummings, using the name "Ramone," has recently been in the media joining with the Palin family and the McCains to attempt to aid their campaign for the Presidency. As a President of Ramones Productions, and brother of Joey Ramone, I just want it to  
be clear that Linda Cummings does not represent the political views of the Ramones. Surely, as for Joey Ramone, the only Ramones song he would sing at a Republican campaign event would be ?Glad To See You Go!'

'I should add that when Johnny stated ?God Bless George Bush' at the 2002 Rock&Roll Hall of Fame awards, I realize now that he was on to something. Because if it were not for George Bush and his handling of our country the past 8 years, I doubt so many Americans, including so many highly regarded Republicans, would now be getting behind Barack Obama. So, yes, thank God for George Bush for paving the way to Obama.'


~ ~ Mickey Leigh




      

From fatpotanga at gmail.com  Mon Nov  3 07:21:48 2008
From: fatpotanga at gmail.com (fatpotanga)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 12:21:48 +0000
Subject: [kj] ot New Concentration AMPS Track
In-Reply-To: <13071bf00811030328u6467f437oafbc11bc7bd6de7f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <13071bf00811030328u6467f437oafbc11bc7bd6de7f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CD15C5A6-C644-4D30-8D91-CEF94F0482CF@gmail.com>

Ooh - gr8 stuff Cliff
I like I lot

On 3 Nov 2008, at 11:28, Cliff Livingston wrote:

> Hiya Here's my latest project,finally got this mix ready to  
> hear,work in progress and few mixes will be made.Have a free  
> download and a listen.Enjoy CliffMonk
>
> http://www.myspace.com/concentrationamps
> _______________________________________________
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From vassifer at earthlink.net  Mon Nov  3 07:23:54 2008
From: vassifer at earthlink.net (Alexander Smith)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 07:23:54 -0500
Subject: [kj] Bonzo Goes to Hell
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Ugh! Right wing Johnny's revenge. I'll always adore the Ramones, but  
they were never the savviest of bands, politically.

Alex in NYC


On Nov 3, 2008, at 7:20 AM, Change wrote:

> Press Release
> STATEMENT FROM MICKEY LEIGH
>
>
> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
> October 30, 2008
>
>
>
> STATEMENT FROM MICKEY LEIGH:
>
>
> 'It has been brought to my attention that Linda Cummings, using the  
> name "Ramone," has recently been in the media joining with the Palin  
> family and the McCains to attempt to aid their campaign for the  
> Presidency. As a President of Ramones Productions, and brother of  
> Joey Ramone, I just want it to
> be clear that Linda Cummings does not represent the political views  
> of the Ramones. Surely, as for Joey Ramone, the only Ramones song he  
> would sing at a Republican campaign event would be ?Glad To See You  
> Go!'
>
> 'I should add that when Johnny stated ?God Bless George Bush' at the  
> 2002 Rock&Roll Hall of Fame awards, I realize now that he was on to  
> something. Because if it were not for George Bush and his handling  
> of our country the past 8 years, I doubt so many Americans,  
> including so many highly regarded Republicans, would now be getting  
> behind Barack Obama. So, yes, thank God for George Bush for paving  
> the way to Obama.'
>
>
> ~ ~ Mickey Leigh
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Gathering mailing list
> Gathering at misera.net
> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering


From crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk  Mon Nov  3 07:24:01 2008
From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk (Sarah's Kunt)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 12:24:01 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [kj] More Words to Avoid like the Plague
In-Reply-To: <BLU148-W17A0F8C81C56AA465CC134BB230@phx.gbl>
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Four little words that will probably 
never end up in Joke lyrics:
?
?
Wazzocks
Insufferable
Scuzzy
Hoody 


      
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From crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk  Mon Nov  3 07:25:58 2008
From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk (Sarah's Kunt)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 12:25:58 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [kj] Arse Tax
In-Reply-To: <BLU148-W52A65922FF4543D46FBFDBB230@phx.gbl>
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I'm quite happy to talk shit to Rob's Arse/face but only AFTER he's had it out with Jaz over the tax evasion issue and told Youth that his art is shit. I guess Youth will be raking in a lot more dosh making so called 'shit' art (wow what an illuminating critique!) than Arse will making Scuzzy Hoodies as the Credit Crunch hits lunch, dinner and tea.

As for taking the moral high ground with Jaz over tax avoidance, that is so laughably hypocritical as to be almost beneath contempt. Here we are in a nation run by an unelected buffoon who has sold off all the gold reserves in a grossly backfiring attempt to boost his economic acumen, who continues illegal and highly immoral occupations of other nations and props up his mates in the shitty city when it is them who've wiped out the pensions and destroyed homes with their sub prime bullshit hedge cons. 

Anyone in Britain or the USA who pays taxes has NO MORAL IMPERATIVE whatsoever. You are all complicit in mass murder and corruption whether you deny it or not. I'm sure Jaz can find much more productive ways to invest for the future than the greedy shits who run the Western World.

If anyone would like to hit me in the pub for typing this, then go ahead. You'll probably just end up in a cell instead of at a Killing Joke gig and I'll end up with a funny story to bore everyone with! Then there'll be less at the headcount.

Sorry to bore you all so.
Now back to your insufferably interesting diet of the 
infinite wisdom of the Exorcist, a Wazzock slagging Youth's art with zero critique, tech-heads judging Geordie's guitar sound on the basis of a COMPRESSED digital file, and vacuous Americans wailing and gnashing teeth over Jaz Coleman's tendency to exaggerate and not always be truthful like his momma shoulda told him.

Vote Republican!
Sarcasm will save the intellect!


RTX, Kristin Hersh, Githead, Shellac, Michael Gira, 
The Dirty Three & Genesis P-Orridge 
interviewed here:
http://www.perfectsoundforever.com

Republicans Out Forever!


666666666666633366666666666666666666
EVERYBODY LOVES YOU WHEN YOU'RE DEAD
*****(bad news for home owners)*****
999999999999999999999999999999999999



      

From crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk  Mon Nov  3 07:27:53 2008
From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk (Sarah's Kunt)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 12:27:53 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [kj] South Fork Rabble Babble
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Yos blew off more good ol'American hot air:
>I've been debating with myself 

You seem to do a lot of that. 
Maybe you should get out more?

>if you are ever worthy of a response. I've come
to the conclusion that you are not. 

You instantly contradicted yourself by replying. 
Not as clever as you think you are!

>However this one time I think I'll state what I have to say and move on.

Where you movin' to?
Aotearoa?

>(You seem to try really really hard to get a rise out of me. 

No, I find your pomposity amusing so was making fun of it. Its nothing to do with wages.

>Unfortunately, a person of your character never has
nor ever will have any significance to me 

What an arrogant important entity you are. 
Do I look like I give a shit?

>and therefor I really won't be getting to upset. 

Shouldn't that read 'too upset?' Why be upset at all? I made a joke at your bloated expense but like a lot of Americans British humour goes right over your head.

>Pests can be a nuisance on occasion but are easily ignored. 

More idiotic wisdom!

Return of the Rat:
Ever had your home infested with rats?
Chew, devour!
They are not easily ignored and make a hell of a lot of noise. Their shit stinks. So to write that pests are easily ignored was rather ignorant in general terms.

A plague of locusts is an even less ignorable kind of pest, ask those Ancient Egyptians!


>This one time however, I shall grant your wish.)

I wouldn't waste a wish on this bullshit.
It seems like Pat you make false assumptions because you've had a tiny dent put on your great big ego. 

>You're like an insufferable child that has no grasp of understanding.

Yo "Insufferable!"
A new word for Rob's Arse to learn!

Could you explain what you meant by that? 
It seems to make no sense. 
How does one grasp understanding?
It seems one must share the view of Yos which is the truth and the way to real wisdom, whilst of course avoiding all pests.

Children are not insufferable. 
Many children in Africa suffer greatly.

>You have yet to make one semi-decent or logical response nor do I think you are capable of making one.

So what did you think of the bit I just wrote about pests?
All a bit illogical and indecent I suppose.

>Your rants would make the Southpark rabble people seem coherent.

Well I guess we jest appreciate a bit of comedy more than Yossy do, y'all... 

http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/153618/?tag=Mrs.Broflovski

So is this what the US intelligentsia dig?
No wonder the planet is heading down the pan!

>At least an attack with some wit, logic or insight would allow me to give you some semblance of respect.

Whatever happened to...?
Irrational Domain

I can be funny with no logic at all. Maybe you just don't get the jokes because they grasp too far beyond understanding for your vast semblance of intellect to grasp. 

I don't understand!

>I doubt you have the intellectual capacity to exchange intelligent dialogue... come to think of it, even non intelligent dialogue
with anyone other than yourself.

Ahem, so how come you wrote this, immortal fool?
Kiss your intellect goodbye...

>Nor do I think 

But you try so hard!

>you have the capacity or ability to think outside of your self delusions and ideals.

Because I disagree with some of the utter claptrap masquerading as wisdom you send to The Gathering?
What a patronising pompous pillock you are!   

>If crassness were to disappear from this world 

They'd still owe us a living
Course they fuckin' would!

>you'd probably be a mute incapable of expressing anything.

Bullshit. More vacuous HOT AIR from the biggest fat balloon on The Gathering! We have a very different sense of humour it seems. And if I was mute I could still type emails, so there!

>There is much more I can say 

You'll have to type it or shout VERY LOUD!!!!!!

You could even try email as you seem to spend a lot of time on that mode of communication these days.

>but I assume the rest of the Gatheres can reach their own conclusions based
on what you have written in the past and for their own opinions (good or bad). Besides, short novella's don't do well in E-mail context.

Why not?
Because Americans are too dumbed down to read that much?

>Therefor, 

OOPS! Yos dropped an E!
Beware of low flying house. 

>I don't think I shall waste any more time responding to you as it is pointless and I'd probably
be more productive masturbating into the east river.

Come on baby! Rock on logical!
Feed the semi-decent fishes with your enormous manly intellect!

>I truly wish you the best, but I do hope that you grow up one day. Ad hominem attacks and absolutely witless
replies will not take you far in life.

Hell, if I want to go far I can buy a coach ticket, at least until all the petrol runs out. Then I'll walk.

>Favete linguis

Sprechen sie Deutsch?

Pretentious, Moi?

>I would also like to apologize to the rest of the gatherers for seeing this. I generally avoid personal attacks.
I've made my statement and shall now move on.

Not much of an attack really.
More like a load of bollocks.

>Best Wishes,
Yos

>Ps.
Writing words in CAPS will not make it any more intelligent.

P.P.S.> That is not the intention of bigging up the words.

Save yer wishes for one who needs them!
Like the sufferable children in Congo for example.

Get back in your box.

Best Witches.........
EVERYTHING WENT SOUTH
Who Wants the World?
888888888888888888888


Republicans Out Forever!



      

From Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.uk  Mon Nov  3 08:23:28 2008
From: Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.uk (Janean Lancaster)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 13:23:28 -0000
Subject: [kj] ot New Concentration AMPS Track
Message-ID: <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232D659@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal>

Excellent stuff!

 

________________________________

From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
On Behalf Of Cliff Livingston
Sent: 03 November 2008 11:28
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: [kj] ot New Concentration AMPS Track

 

Hiya Here's my latest project,finally got this mix ready to hear,work in
progress and few mixes will be made.Have a free download and a
listen.Enjoy CliffMonk

 

http://www.myspace.com/concentrationamps

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From paulwady at hotmail.com  Mon Nov  3 08:45:01 2008
From: paulwady at hotmail.com (Paul Wady)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 13:45:01 +0000
Subject: [kj] Berlin PHOTOS - Happy Halloween (little late)
In-Reply-To: <01bf01c93d2c$28cc41e0$7a64c5a0$@fsnet.co.uk>
References: <0ADAC14A6BAD4D9699A4C55AA39CCE03@osadm.net>
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Great nocturnal images of wild beasts at play.  Well done.

Keep Smiling...

Autism also affects adults. 
Most are isolated and ignored
Think. Act. Transform Lives. 
www.think-differently.org.uk

> From: mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk> To: gathering at misera.net> Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 20:46:52 +0000> Subject: Re: [kj] Berlin PHOTOS - Happy Halloween (little late)> > Amazing pics - many thanks for putting those up.> > -----Original Message-----> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On> Behalf Of Edita Hornov?> Sent: 01 November 2008 17:33> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)> Subject: [kj] Berlin PHOTOS - Happy Halloween (little late)> > > Finnaly managed to edit the pics and upload them to the server, hope you'll> like them, even though they are mostly not perfect quality, but I did my> best...almost : )> > Appo> > http://killingjokeberlin2008.czweb.org/page00004.htm> _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering> > > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
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From crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk  Mon Nov  3 09:29:24 2008
From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk (Sarah's Kunt)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 14:29:24 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [kj] Whatever happened to...?
In-Reply-To: <BAY130-W37D0C31D126FF46F75404ECC1D0@phx.gbl>
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WARDANCE!

--- On Mon, 3/11/08, Paul Wady <paulwady at hotmail.com> wrote:

> From: Paul Wady <paulwady at hotmail.com>
> Subject: RE: [kj] South Fork Rabble Babble
> To: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk
> Date: Monday, 3 November, 2008, 1:46 PM
> *BIG HUG*
>  
> Ooooh...  LETS ALL LOVE EACH OTHER...  LETS ALL BE NICE
> FRIENDS...  LETS ALL KISS AND CUDDDLE UP, AND TOUCH OUR REAR
> ENDS!!!!
>  
> xxxxXXXxxx
>  
> 
> Keep Smiling...
> 
> Autism also affects adults. 
> Most are isolated and ignored
> Think. Act. Transform Lives. 
> www.think-differently.org.uk
> 
> > Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 12:27:53 +0000> From:
> crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk> To: gathering at misera.net>
> Subject: [kj] South Fork Rabble Babble> > > Yos
> blew off more good ol'American hot air:> >I've
> been debating with myself > > You seem to do a lot of
> that. > Maybe you should get out more?> > >if
> you are ever worthy of a response. I've come> to the
> conclusion that you are not. > > You instantly
> contradicted yourself by replying. > Not as clever as you
> think you are!> > >However this one time I think
> I'll state what I have to say and move on.> >
> Where you movin' to?> Aotearoa?> > >(You
> seem to try really really hard to get a rise out of me. >
> > No, I find your pomposity amusing so was making fun of
> it. Its nothing to do with wages.> >


      

From crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk  Mon Nov  3 09:33:14 2008
From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk (Sarah's Putrefying Kunt)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 14:33:14 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [kj] Berlin PHOTOS - Happy Halloween (little late)
In-Reply-To: <BAY130-W32D03E98F7C6618C89853BCC1D0@phx.gbl>
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Makes me feel like I was there!

Hang on...

I was!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://killingjokeberlin2008.czweb.org/page00004.htm>



      

From bq at soundgardener.co.nz  Mon Nov  3 09:37:39 2008
From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 03:37:39 +1300 (NZDT)
Subject: [kj] Joaquin Phoenix quits film to work in music
In-Reply-To: <BAY107-W1183A98FB33FDF9125A60CED200@phx.gbl>
References: <20081031124243.HM.00000000000096i@jagargal.bos-mail-wwl12.lycos.com>
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Message-ID: <11674.203.210.68.145.1225723059.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz>

That's exactly the issue I had with it. don't actually mind Mel Gibson as
an actor, but that ending was awful.

>
> I think the ending of signs totally trashed the film. Nice idea, bad
> execution."
>
> From: jagargal at lycos.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Fri, 31 Oct 2008
> 12:42:43 -0400Subject: Re: [kj] Joaquin Phoenix quits film to work in
> musicGoing a little deeper in the hippie parent's thing, his sister's name
> is Summer Phoenix. I think he's a pretty good actor, opposite to you i do
> like "Signs" (the end may be bad, but the suspense along all the movie
> -just before the end- is awesome. Besides i love the UFO-Alien
> movies/topics), still his acting isn't very remarkable in this one. He was
> ok in 8mm, but on the other hand he was very good in Gladiator -he made a
> great tyrant- and in his role as Johnny Cash was very nice too. Javier
> mexcity
> ---------[ Received Mail Content ]----------Subject : Re: [kj] Joaquin
> Phoenix quits film to work in musicDate : Sat, 1 Nov 2008 01:38:50 +1300
> (NZDT)From : "Brendan" <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>To : "A list about all
> things Killing Joke \(the band!\)" <gathering at misera.net>Random comment,
> but has anyone noticed how fucked his shoulders are? Dunno if it's
> congenital or what, but must cause a bit of pain. Actually I can't think
> of a good movie I've seen him in. That Mel Gibson alien thing was shit,
> that one where he's a drug smuggler in the army...that was shit...still I
> don't think he's a bad actor. I musta seen him in something... > > It's
> his real name -- brother of the late River Phoenix. His parents > were
> silly hippies. > > Alex in NYC > > > On Oct 31, 2008, at 5:24 AM, Brendan
> wrote: > >> I don't mind Phoenix, (although his name sounds like a semi
> ridiculous >> stage name, if it's not I stand corrected), but I thought
> him doing >> Johnny >> Cash was a bit luke warm to be honest. >> >>>
> Joaquin ---> Johnny ---> Jaz next? >>> >>> First he plays Johnny Cash, now
> he's quitting films forever to go >>> into >>> music. >>> If only he could
> portray Jaz in the (now shelved?) KJ film in the >>> works. >>> >>>
> Joaquin Phoenix >>>
> http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/joaquinphoenix_blog.html >>> vid >>>
> http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b65859_Joaquin_Phoenix_Calls_It_a_Career_.html
> >>> >>> >>> ... ... ... ... ... ... >>> >>> [looking at the current state
> of things..] >>> >>> 'Save me... >>> save me from Tomorrow.. >>> I don't
> want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...' >>> >>> >>> >>>
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From jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk  Mon Nov  3 09:37:51 2008
From: jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk (Jim Harper)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 14:37:51 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [kj] Arse Tax
In-Reply-To: <635090.8153.qm@web23203.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <710414.83252.qm@web25903.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>

One obvious thought: If you find the company here quite so irritating, why are you still here? I would have thought the most rewarding course of action would be to unsubscribe and pursue something more interesting. Certainly whenever I find myself surrounded by dribbling morons, I go somewhere else.It usually works.
?
Jim.?

--- On Mon, 3/11/08, Sarah's Kunt <crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

From: Sarah's Kunt <crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: [kj] Arse Tax
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
Date: Monday, 3 November, 2008, 12:25 PM

I'm quite happy to talk shit to Rob's Arse/face but only AFTER he's
had it out with Jaz over the tax evasion issue and told Youth that his art is
shit. I guess Youth will be raking in a lot more dosh making so called
'shit' art (wow what an illuminating critique!) than Arse will making
Scuzzy Hoodies as the Credit Crunch hits lunch, dinner and tea.

As for taking the moral high ground with Jaz over tax avoidance, that is so
laughably hypocritical as to be almost beneath contempt. Here we are in a nation
run by an unelected buffoon who has sold off all the gold reserves in a grossly
backfiring attempt to boost his economic acumen, who continues illegal and
highly immoral occupations of other nations and props up his mates in the shitty
city when it is them who've wiped out the pensions and destroyed homes with
their sub prime bullshit hedge cons. 

Anyone in Britain or the USA who pays taxes has NO MORAL IMPERATIVE whatsoever.
You are all complicit in mass murder and corruption whether you deny it or not.
I'm sure Jaz can find much more productive ways to invest for the future
than the greedy shits who run the Western World.

If anyone would like to hit me in the pub for typing this, then go ahead.
You'll probably just end up in a cell instead of at a Killing Joke gig and
I'll end up with a funny story to bore everyone with! Then there'll be
less at the headcount.

Sorry to bore you all so.
Now back to your insufferably interesting diet of the 
infinite wisdom of the Exorcist, a Wazzock slagging Youth's art with zero
critique, tech-heads judging Geordie's guitar sound on the basis of a
COMPRESSED digital file, and vacuous Americans wailing and gnashing teeth over
Jaz Coleman's tendency to exaggerate and not always be truthful like his
momma shoulda told him.

Vote Republican!
Sarcasm will save the intellect!


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From crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk  Mon Nov  3 09:38:29 2008
From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk (Sarah's Putrefying Kunt)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 14:38:29 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [kj] ot New Concentration AMPS Track
In-Reply-To: <13071bf00811030328u6467f437oafbc11bc7bd6de7f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <512869.86928.qm@web23202.mail.ird.yahoo.com>

Reckon this would be a damn fine Killing Joke support slot...

> progress and few mixes will be made.Have a free download
> and a listen.Enjoy
> CliffMonk
> 
> http://www.myspace.com/concentrationamps



      

From crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk  Mon Nov  3 09:39:52 2008
From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk (Sarah's Putrefying Kunt)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 14:39:52 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [kj] Arse Tax
In-Reply-To: <710414.83252.qm@web25903.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <948530.49667.qm@web23205.mail.ird.yahoo.com>

Not everyone here is a dribbling moron!

I always enjoy Brendan's jests, to be sure!

I also enjoyed Cliffs new track.


--- On Mon, 3/11/08, Jim Harper <jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> From: Jim Harper <jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: [kj] Arse Tax
> To: "Gathering" <gathering at misera.net>
> Date: Monday, 3 November, 2008, 2:37 PM
> One obvious thought: If you find the company here quite so
> irritating, why are you still here? I would have thought the
> most rewarding course of action would be to unsubscribe and
> pursue something more interesting. Certainly whenever I find
> myself surrounded by dribbling morons, I go somewhere
> else.It usually works.
> ?
> Jim.?
> 
> --- On Mon, 3/11/08, Sarah's Kunt
> <crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> From: Sarah's Kunt <crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk>
> Subject: [kj] Arse Tax
> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the
> band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
> Date: Monday, 3 November, 2008, 12:25 PM
> 
> I'm quite happy to talk shit to Rob's Arse/face but
> only AFTER he's
> had it out with Jaz over the tax evasion issue and told
> Youth that his art is
> shit. I guess Youth will be raking in a lot more dosh
> making so called
> 'shit' art (wow what an illuminating critique!)
> than Arse will making
> Scuzzy Hoodies as the Credit Crunch hits lunch, dinner and
> tea.
> 
> As for taking the moral high ground with Jaz over tax
> avoidance, that is so
> laughably hypocritical as to be almost beneath contempt.
> Here we are in a nation
> run by an unelected buffoon who has sold off all the gold
> reserves in a grossly
> backfiring attempt to boost his economic acumen, who
> continues illegal and
> highly immoral occupations of other nations and props up
> his mates in the shitty
> city when it is them who've wiped out the pensions and
> destroyed homes with
> their sub prime bullshit hedge cons. 
> 
> Anyone in Britain or the USA who pays taxes has NO MORAL
> IMPERATIVE whatsoever.
> You are all complicit in mass murder and corruption whether
> you deny it or not.
> I'm sure Jaz can find much more productive ways to
> invest for the future
> than the greedy shits who run the Western World.
> 
> If anyone would like to hit me in the pub for typing this,
> then go ahead.
> You'll probably just end up in a cell instead of at a
> Killing Joke gig and
> I'll end up with a funny story to bore everyone with!
> Then there'll be
> less at the headcount.
> 
> Sorry to bore you all so.
> Now back to your insufferably interesting diet of the 
> infinite wisdom of the Exorcist, a Wazzock slagging
> Youth's art with zero
> critique, tech-heads judging Geordie's guitar sound on
> the basis of a
> COMPRESSED digital file, and vacuous Americans wailing and
> gnashing teeth over
> Jaz Coleman's tendency to exaggerate and not always be
> truthful like his
> momma shoulda told him.
> 
> Vote Republican!
> Sarcasm will save the intellect!
> 
> 
> RTX, Kristin Hersh, Githead, Shellac, Michael Gira, 
> The Dirty Three & Genesis P-Orridge 
> interviewed here:
> http://www.perfectsoundforever.com
> 
> Republicans Out Forever!
> 
> 
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From bq at soundgardener.co.nz  Mon Nov  3 09:44:10 2008
From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 03:44:10 +1300 (NZDT)
Subject: [kj] Dutch
In-Reply-To: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC07229C@mr-pants.the-lab.local>
References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC07229C@mr-pants.the-lab.local>
Message-ID: <15843.203.210.68.145.1225723450.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz>

A Kiwi comedy band did an album called Brown Sabbath...

> LOL - Metal up yer arse!!!!
>
> I heard brown was a fave colour for Aussie's, so had to ask...
>
> And so is dealt the killing blow!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Brendan
> Sent: 31 October 2008 09:49
> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
> Subject: Re: [kj] Dutch
>
>
> No way man, alvays haff I been into da METAL man, so of course it's being
> BLACK.
>
> Vouch!!
>
>> Totally ;)
>>
>> Is brown your favourite colour?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
>> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Brendan
>> Sent: 30 October 2008 07:02
>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
>> Subject: Re: [kj] Dutch
>>
>>
>> That's such a typical white male pommy thing to say.
>>
>>> Maybe the need to categorise is a by-product of how our brains work?
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
>>> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On
>>> Behalf Of folk devil
>>> Sent: 29 October 2008 17:29
>>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
>>> Subject: Re: [kj] Dutch
>>>
>>>
>>> Nationality is a myth.
>>> It just keeps you neat and tidy in your box, even when it cannot
>>> represent
>>> every Culture contained inside.
>>>
>>>
>>> ""
>>>
>>>> From: karen.weil at sddt.com
>>>> To: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk; gathering at misera.net
>>>> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 10:10:34 -0700
>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] Dutch
>>>>
>>>> OK, Change: Settle down. I say it only in a general sense. And guess
>>>> what? I
>>>> actually think that about *most* people -- regardless of nationality,
>>>> etc.
>>>>
>>>> Respectfully,
>>>>
>>>> k.w.
>>>> (open-minded American)
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Change" <crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk>
>>>> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
>>>> <gathering at misera.net>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 6:46 AM
>>>> Subject: [kj] Dutch
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > ALL the Dutch are good people?
>>>> >
>>>> > That seems a simplisitic view...
>>>> >
>>>> >> From: karen.weil at sddt.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Tue,
>>>> >> 28 Oct 2008 10:27:45 -0700Subject: Re: [kj] Nice Streets
>>>> >> Below: How We Wait in Europe
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Dank u wel for your input, Jerry. The Dutch are good people
>>>> >> (but sorry about your one experience there!) And I
>>>> >> couldn't agree with you about judging an entire
>>>> >> group/city/nation, etc. based on the actions of a few jerks.
>>>> >> It only leads to no good.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Anyway, tot ziens!
>>>> >>
>>>> >> k.w.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> >> From: jerry bodkin
>>>> >> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
>>>> >> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 12:48 AM
>>>> >> Subject: Re: [kj] Nice Streets Below: How We Wait in Europe
>>>> >> Holland is a lovely country and the Dutch are a lovely
>>>> >> people, ive been there several times including once for just
>>>> >> 12 hours(10 of them in a police cell) but we'll leave
>>>> >> that there! France too is a beautiful beautiful place and
>>>> >> the people there too are lovely once you make an effort with
>>>> >> them. i.e. try at least to speak the language. Give me
>>>> >> Europe any day. Too often we judge an entire race on
>>>> >> individual behaviour, my God, what must most of the world
>>>> >> think of us English. Jelala.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> > From: karen.weil at sddt.com> To:
>>>> >> crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk; gathering at misera.net> Date:
>>>> >> Mon, 27 Oct 2008 11:51:50 -0700> Subject: Re: [kj] Nice
>>>> >> Streets Below: How We Wait in Europe> > Hi,
>>>> >> Change:> > Appreciate your thoughts on Belgium;
>>>> >> it's a fine place. Germany also offers > so much, and
>>>> >> has a very strong avant-guarde scene.> However, I have to
>>>> >> take issue with your comments about the Dutch and >
>>>> >> Europe. If anything, the Dutch have a totally different
>>>> >> attitude when it > comes to languages; that's why so
>>>> >> many of them speak three or four of them. > Whatever
>>>> >> differences they may have with their European neighbors; I
>>>> >> really > don't think the English issue plays a great
>>>> >> role.> And while Paris is outrageously expensive (I was
>>>> >> there in May; and believe > me, it was no fun coming from
>>>> >> a country where the currency is in the > toilet!), I
>>>> >> really can't agree with your observations about the
>>>> >> French, > either. (Although I will concur about their
>>>> >> love of Wire!)> But at any rate, enjoy travelling -- veel
>>>> >> plezier, as the Dutch say!> > Groetjes,> >
>>>> >> k.w.> > ----- Original Message ----- > From:
>>>> >> "Change" <crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk>>
>>>> >> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the
>>>> >> band!)" > <gathering at misera.net>> Sent:
>>>> >> Wednesday, October 15, 2008 5:53 AM> Subject: [kj] Nice
>>>> >> Streets Below: How We Wait in Europe> > > > How
>>>> >> nice it was to escape this ever more petty joke of a nation,
>>>> >> occupied > > as it has been by the USA since WW2. If
>>>> >> you want to get away from this > > rotten island then
>>>> >> a great place to go is Belgium. Its not too far by > >
>>>> >> coach through the tunnel. Brussels is beautiful. The streets
>>>> >> smell of > > coffee and chocolate, the people are
>>>> >> jolly and kind and there is great art > > everywhere.
>>>> >> No wonder Colin and Malka made it their home. There are also
>>>> >> > > lots of Belgians with little noses straight out of
>>>> >> a Tintin book. The food > > and beer are amazing. I
>>>> >> thought Brussels was wonderful but then I made it > >
>>>> >> to Ghent and was pretty damn glad the trams had been aborted
>>>> >> by a flower > > festival because I walked along the
>>>> >> canal to get back to the station and > > realised that
>>>> >> this is architecturally the most beautiful city I have seen.
>>>> >> > > I haven't made it to Prague yet though!
>>>> >> Antwerp looks like a low rent > > Barcelona copy, in
>>>> >> the same way Manchester tries to be European but always >
>>>> >> > ends up looking like> > a post-industrial dump.
>>>> >> Tilberg is very boxy but the people were partying > >
>>>> >> hard and late and the Dutch all seem to think the rest of
>>>> >> Europe is crap > > just because they don't all
>>>> >> speak perfect English! "Those crazy Dutch!" >
>>>> >> > said Lewis but I can't remember why. Maybe it was
>>>> >> something to do with the > > hotel WIRE rejected in
>>>> >> Tilburg. Margaret the guitarist said it was so > >
>>>> >> grotty she didn't even want to put her bag down in it
>>>> >> let alone sleep in > > it!> >> > Berlin is
>>>> >> a great place to explore, full of impressive sites and large
>>>> >> > > enough to spend years there I'd warrant.
>>>> >> Tiergarten is the largest and > > most lovely park
>>>> >> I've ever strolled through. German venues also make a
>>>> >> > > mockery of British ones in terms of the sound.>
>>>> >> >> > Strasbourg has a fine market where I found a
>>>> >> sabre for a mere twenty > > euros, a light sabre for
>>>> >> two euros and a tiny plastic Obelix for twenty > >
>>>> >> cents. Lewis loves the trams, but the modern art gallery,
>>>> >> watched over by > > one of Lovecraft's Forgotten
>>>> >> Ones, is even better. I spent too long there > > so
>>>> >> got to Paris 23 minutes too late. My Cologne friend Dirk
>>>> >> from the > > Gathering reckons Strasbourg is cool
>>>> >> because of the huge German influence. > > Cancel your
>>>> >> order, crossing the border, changing the menu!> >>
>>>> >> > The Eyefull tower is good for a stroll but Paris is
>>>> >> full of too many slow > > people and the prices are
>>>> >> obscene. Jus d'orange? Mai non je pense que je > >
>>>> >> WAIT until ich gehe zu Belqigue! Paris hotels are the worst.
>>>> >> Unlike > > Germany and Belgium, the beer is worse than
>>>> >> Britain. French computer > > keyboards were designed
>>>> >> by a retard and the showers go some way to > >
>>>> >> explaining why the English have often mocked the French for
>>>> >> being > > hygenically challenged. The redeeming
>>>> >> feature of the French is that many > > of them seem to
>>>> >> really love WIRE and gave the most enthusiastic response
>>>> >> > > of any crowds on this tour.> >> >
>>>> >> Anyway this was the route of my rail and road trip:>
>>>> >> >> > I arrived in beautiful Brussels in the middle
>>>> >> of some kind of medieval > > WARDANCE pageant. I had
>>>> >> time to visit the city's most mainstream record >
>>>> >> > store just opposite Ancienne Belquique which Killing
>>>> >> Joke would conquer by > > and by. I was rewarded by
>>>> >> finding a copy of one of the few PJ HARVEY > > singles
>>>> >> I didn't yet possess, 'A PLACE CALLED HOME.'>
>>>> >> >> > After a couple of hours I caught the train to
>>>> >> gorgeous Ghent for the WIRE > > gig at Democrazy.>
>>>> >> >> > Next day I took trains via Antwerp and a bus
>>>> >> NORTH OF THE BORDER to > > Tilburg just in time to
>>>> >> catch the seismic riffin' PELICAN and Dutch > >
>>>> >> hardcore heroes SEEIN' RED before WIRE blasted off at
>>>> >> around 7pm. Later I > > was also entertained by the
>>>> >> double breasted PRE and a Satanic black metal > > band
>>>> >> who gave the crowd the finger for watching them, all of
>>>> >> which was > > unexpected.> >> > On
>>>> >> returning to Brussels I witnessed a lovely WIRE gig at La
>>>> >> Botanique, a > > venue which could verily call itself
>>>> >> NICE STREETS ABOVE if it so desired. > > I struck up
>>>> >> conversation with a charming photographer and graphic
>>>> >> designer > > called Violette who sent me eight great
>>>> >> photos of WIRE from the gig.> >> > After the gig
>>>> >> I had to START TO MOVE pretty sharp and jumped on the night
>>>> >> > > train where I was entertained by conversation with
>>>> >> a former theatre > > director who had just aborted a
>>>> >> trip to Turkey. He recommended a trip to > >
>>>> >> Tiergarten which proved very good advice. My first police
>>>> >> encounter was > > with two cops on the Ostbahnhof
>>>> >> platform who took a rather long time > > checking to
>>>> >> find out if Interpol have a warrant out on me for listening
>>>> >> to > > music in my living room. Berlin is also very
>>>> >> cool and well worth a visit > > in its own right, but
>>>> >> smells worse than Brussels.> >> > The first
>>>> >> night was free before the arrival of KILLING JOKE so I
>>>> >> checked > > out the SO36 venue where they and WIRE
>>>> >> played, which was immortalised in a > > song on the
>>>> >> first KILLING JOKE album. The sound was excellent as are all
>>>> >> > > other German venues I've ever been to. The
>>>> >> soundman played KILLING JOKE > > before the headline
>>>> >> act, a comedy punk trio who weren't very funny but >
>>>> >> > probably liked DEVO. We talked after the gig and I run
>>>> >> into him again at > > the KILLING JOKE gigs.>
>>>> >> >> > After the amazing KILLING JOKE regeneration in
>>>> >> Berlin, with Big Paul's > > drum kit illuminated
>>>> >> and smoking ritualistically, I planned to head to > >
>>>> >> Paris to see them there. The train times were TOO LATE so at
>>>> >> the last > > minute I rerouted to Strasbourg for more
>>>> >> WIRE and this proved a wise > > choice as the COMET
>>>> >> hit very late and I caught the whole set in front of a >
>>>> >> > very young and enthusiastic crowd at a festival that
>>>> >> went on until 6am. > > Next day my second run in with
>>>> >> cops was with two French transport police > > who ask
>>>> >> me to wrap up my sword so that it couldn't be seen
>>>> >> before I caught > > the train.> >> > Paris
>>>> >> next for more WIRE, on a first class train where I started
>>>> >> downing > > some of the left over Heineken from last
>>>> >> night's rider and upset a French > > idiot who had
>>>> >> a tantrum because I couldn't stop belching even when she
>>>> >> > > kicked my chair. She complained to the guard and
>>>> >> he clearly thought it was > > a bit silly having to
>>>> >> ask me not to belch when I couldn't help it. In the >
>>>> >> > end she started complaining I was playing the BUTTHOLE
>>>> >> SURFERS too loud on > > my headphones and he came
>>>> >> back, again embarrassed, to ask me to turn it > >
>>>> >> down. Then she had a stroke of genius and moved to another
>>>> >> seat. Perhaps > > its a good job the sword was
>>>> >> wrapped!> > If you ever feel like going to Paris my
>>>> >> advice is don't bother. Go in a > > cafe that
>>>> >> advertises coffee for a Euro and they greasy waiters will
>>>> >> > > chearge you five.> >> > It was nice to
>>>> >> speed back to Belgium and Brussels which was already >
>>>> >> > seeming like a second home. I found many cool CDs in
>>>> >> the shops, including > > quite appropriately
>>>> >> COMMERCIAL SUICIDE. Being there for three days I had >
>>>> >> > plenty of time to explore and each day surpassed the
>>>> >> previous one. I met > > so many great people in
>>>> >> Belgium I felt like moving there!> >> > My
>>>> >> favourite songs to listen to on a speeding train were>
>>>> >> > KILLING JOKE - Pssyche> > WIRE - Drill (DJ
>>>> >> Fuckoff Version)> > oh dear the moderate Craig
>>>> >> won't like that will he?> > KILLING JOKE -
>>>> >> Timewave> > PJ HARVEY - Taut> > EINSTURZENDE
>>>> >> NEUBAUTEN - Haus Der Lauge> > BAND OF SUSANS - Guitar
>>>> >> Trio> > KILLING JOKE - Empire Song> > WIRE -
>>>> >> Germ Ship> > WIRE - Spent> > BUTTHOLE SURFERS -
>>>> >> Who was in my room last night?> >> > Back home
>>>> >> after another awesome double dose of the mighty JOKE I had a
>>>> >> day > > of rest and didn't even have time enough
>>>> >> to notice what a terminal dump > > Manchester is
>>>> >> because the MELVINS wheeled in to rock the town and give me
>>>> >> > > a chance to catch up with lots of old friends.
>>>> >> That is the great thing > > about Manchester, lots of
>>>> >> good gigs.> >> > Next day I was off again to
>>>> >> London for the KILLING JOKE homecoming and as > >
>>>> >> chaotic synchronicity would have it, THALIA ZEDEK and her
>>>> >> band began their > > tour the very next day. She's
>>>> >> a brilliant intense songwriter. Check her > > out
>>>> >> while you still can...> >> >
>>>> >> www.myspace.com/thaliazedek> >> > Her tour ends
>>>> >> on October 23 at La Botanique in Brussels!> >> >
>>>> >> I went to all the THALIA ZEDEK BAND gigs in England and
>>>> >> after the best one > > at Hull Adelphi I had to zoom
>>>> >> down to Cheam in Surrey for my younger > >
>>>> >> sister's wedding. The lavish reception was held on a
>>>> >> Territorial Army base > > but my uncles and I resisted
>>>> >> the temptation to hijack a tank. One thing I > > gave
>>>> >> her was a copy of 'UH HUH HER' by PJ HARVEY as
>>>> >> "The Desperate Kingdom > > of Love"
>>>> >> couldn't really be a better song to wish for a long
>>>> >> loving > > marriage, at the end of this burning
>>>> >> world.> >> > Then I went home to transcribe
>>>> >> interesting interviews with MAGAZINE and > > WIRE,
>>>> >> blow up some more stereo speakers, and wait for civilization
>>>> >> to fall > > in its grave.> >> >
>>>> >> ACCELERATE> > ACCELERATE> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >
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From crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk  Mon Nov  3 09:44:51 2008
From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk (Sarah's Putrefying Kunt)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 14:44:51 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [kj] Dutch
In-Reply-To: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC07228F@mr-pants.the-lab.local>
Message-ID: <762792.29187.qm@web23207.mail.ird.yahoo.com>

Why the hell should I 
"settle down" ???

RTX, Kristin Hersh, Githead, Shellac, Michael Gira, 
The Dirty Three & Genesis P-Orridge 
interviewed here:
http://www.perfectsoundforever.com

Republicans Out Forever!


--- On Wed, 29/10/08, ade <ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk> wrote:

> From: ade <ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: [kj] Dutch
> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
> Date: Wednesday, 29 October, 2008, 9:43 PM
> Maybe the need to categorise is a by-product of how our
> brains work?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of folk devil
> Sent: 29 October 2008 17:29
> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
> Subject: Re: [kj] Dutch
> 
> 
> Nationality is a myth.
> It just keeps you neat and tidy in your box, even when it
> cannot represent every Culture contained inside.
> 
> 
> ""
> 
> > From: karen.weil at sddt.com
> > To: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk; gathering at misera.net
> > Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 10:10:34 -0700
> > Subject: Re: [kj] Dutch
> > 
> > OK, Change: Settle down. I say it only in a general
> sense. And guess what? I 
> > actually think that about *most* people -- regardless
> of nationality, etc.
> > 
> > Respectfully,
> > 
> > k.w.
> > (open-minded American)
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Change"
> <crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk>
> > To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the
> band!)" 
> > <gathering at misera.net>
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 6:46 AM
> > Subject: [kj] Dutch
> > 
> > 
> > > ALL the Dutch are good people?
> > >
> > > That seems a simplisitic view...
> > >
> > >> From: karen.weil at sddt.comTo:
> gathering at misera.netDate: Tue,
> > >> 28 Oct 2008 10:27:45 -0700Subject: Re: [kj]
> Nice Streets
> > >> Below: How We Wait in Europe
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Dank u wel for your input, Jerry. The Dutch
> are good people
> > >> (but sorry about your one experience there!)
> And I
> > >> couldn't agree with you about judging an
> entire
> > >> group/city/nation, etc. based on the actions
> of a few jerks.
> > >> It only leads to no good.
> > >>
> > >> Anyway, tot ziens!
> > >>
> > >> k.w.
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> > >> From: jerry bodkin
> > >> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the
> band!)
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 12:48 AM
> > >> Subject: Re: [kj] Nice Streets Below: How We
> Wait in Europe
> > >> Holland is a lovely country and the Dutch are
> a lovely
> > >> people, ive been there several times
> including once for just
> > >> 12 hours(10 of them in a police cell) but
> we'll leave
> > >> that there! France too is a beautiful
> beautiful place and
> > >> the people there too are lovely once you make
> an effort with
> > >> them. i.e. try at least to speak the
> language. Give me
> > >> Europe any day. Too often we judge an entire
> race on
> > >> individual behaviour, my God, what must most
> of the world
> > >> think of us English. Jelala.
> > >>
> > >> > From: karen.weil at sddt.com> To:
> > >> crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk;
> gathering at misera.net> Date:
> > >> Mon, 27 Oct 2008 11:51:50 -0700> Subject:
> Re: [kj] Nice
> > >> Streets Below: How We Wait in Europe> >
> Hi,
> > >> Change:> > Appreciate your thoughts on
> Belgium;
> > >> it's a fine place. Germany also offers
> > so much, and
> > >> has a very strong avant-guarde scene.>
> However, I have to
> > >> take issue with your comments about the Dutch
> and >
> > >> Europe. If anything, the Dutch have a totally
> different
> > >> attitude when it > comes to languages;
> that's why so
> > >> many of them speak three or four of them.
> > Whatever
> > >> differences they may have with their European
> neighbors; I
> > >> really > don't think the English issue
> plays a great
> > >> role.> And while Paris is outrageously
> expensive (I was
> > >> there in May; and believe > me, it was no
> fun coming from
> > >> a country where the currency is in the >
> toilet!), I
> > >> really can't agree with your observations
> about the
> > >> French, > either. (Although I will concur
> about their
> > >> love of Wire!)> But at any rate, enjoy
> travelling -- veel
> > >> plezier, as the Dutch say!> >
> Groetjes,> >
> > >> k.w.> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From:
> > >> "Change"
> <crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk>>
> > >> To: "A list about all things Killing
> Joke (the
> > >> band!)" >
> <gathering at misera.net>> Sent:
> > >> Wednesday, October 15, 2008 5:53 AM>
> Subject: [kj] Nice
> > >> Streets Below: How We Wait in Europe> >
> > > How
> > >> nice it was to escape this ever more petty
> joke of a nation,
> > >> occupied > > as it has been by the USA
> since WW2. If
> > >> you want to get away from this > >
> rotten island then
> > >> a great place to go is Belgium. Its not too
> far by > >
> > >> coach through the tunnel. Brussels is
> beautiful. The streets
> > >> smell of > > coffee and chocolate, the
> people are
> > >> jolly and kind and there is great art >
> > everywhere.
> > >> No wonder Colin and Malka made it their home.
> There are also
> > >> > > lots of Belgians with little noses
> straight out of
> > >> a Tintin book. The food > > and beer
> are amazing. I
> > >> thought Brussels was wonderful but then I
> made it > >
> > >> to Ghent and was pretty damn glad the trams
> had been aborted
> > >> by a flower > > festival because I
> walked along the
> > >> canal to get back to the station and >
> > realised that
> > >> this is architecturally the most beautiful
> city I have seen.
> > >> > > I haven't made it to Prague yet
> though!
> > >> Antwerp looks like a low rent > >
> Barcelona copy, in
> > >> the same way Manchester tries to be European
> but always >
> > >> > ends up looking like> > a
> post-industrial dump.
> > >> Tilberg is very boxy but the people were
> partying > >
> > >> hard and late and the Dutch all seem to think
> the rest of
> > >> Europe is crap > > just because they
> don't all
> > >> speak perfect English! "Those crazy
> Dutch!" >
> > >> > said Lewis but I can't remember why.
> Maybe it was
> > >> something to do with the > > hotel WIRE
> rejected in
> > >> Tilburg. Margaret the guitarist said it was
> so > >
> > >> grotty she didn't even want to put her
> bag down in it
> > >> let alone sleep in > > it!> >>
> > Berlin is
> > >> a great place to explore, full of impressive
> sites and large
> > >> > > enough to spend years there I'd
> warrant.
> > >> Tiergarten is the largest and > > most
> lovely park
> > >> I've ever strolled through. German venues
> also make a
> > >> > > mockery of British ones in terms of
> the sound.>
> > >> >> > Strasbourg has a fine market
> where I found a
> > >> sabre for a mere twenty > > euros, a
> light sabre for
> > >> two euros and a tiny plastic Obelix for
> twenty > >
> > >> cents. Lewis loves the trams, but the modern
> art gallery,
> > >> watched over by > > one of
> Lovecraft's Forgotten
> > >> Ones, is even better. I spent too long there
> > > so
> > >> got to Paris 23 minutes too late. My Cologne
> friend Dirk
> > >> from the > > Gathering reckons
> Strasbourg is cool
> > >> because of the huge German influence. >
> > Cancel your
> > >> order, crossing the border, changing the
> menu!> >>
> > >> > The Eyefull tower is good for a stroll
> but Paris is
> > >> full of too many slow > > people and
> the prices are
> > >> obscene. Jus d'orange? Mai non je pense
> que je > >
> > >> WAIT until ich gehe zu Belqigue! Paris hotels
> are the worst.
> > >> Unlike > > Germany and Belgium, the
> beer is worse than
> > >> Britain. French computer > > keyboards
> were designed
> > >> by a retard and the showers go some way to
> > >
> > >> explaining why the English have often mocked
> the French for
> > >> being > > hygenically challenged. The
> redeeming
> > >> feature of the French is that many > >
> of them seem to
> > >> really love WIRE and gave the most
> enthusiastic response
> > >> > > of any crowds on this tour.>
> >> >
> > >> Anyway this was the route of my rail and road
> trip:>
> > >> >> > I arrived in beautiful Brussels
> in the middle
> > >> of some kind of medieval > > WARDANCE
> pageant. I had
> > >> time to visit the city's most mainstream
> record >
> > >> > store just opposite Ancienne Belquique
> which Killing
> > >> Joke would conquer by > > and by. I was
> rewarded by
> > >> finding a copy of one of the few PJ HARVEY
> > > singles
> > >> I didn't yet possess, 'A PLACE CALLED
> HOME.'>
> > >> >> > After a couple of hours I
> caught the train to
> > >> gorgeous Ghent for the WIRE > > gig at
> Democrazy.>
> > >> >> > Next day I took trains via
> Antwerp and a bus
> > >> NORTH OF THE BORDER to > > Tilburg just
> in time to
> > >> catch the seismic riffin' PELICAN and
> Dutch > >
> > >> hardcore heroes SEEIN' RED before WIRE
> blasted off at
> > >> around 7pm. Later I > > was also
> entertained by the
> > >> double breasted PRE and a Satanic black metal
> > > band
> > >> who gave the crowd the finger for watching
> them, all of
> > >> which was > > unexpected.> >>
> > On
> > >> returning to Brussels I witnessed a lovely
> WIRE gig at La
> > >> Botanique, a > > venue which could
> verily call itself
> > >> NICE STREETS ABOVE if it so desired. >
> > I struck up
> > >> conversation with a charming photographer and
> graphic
> > >> designer > > called Violette who sent
> me eight great
> > >> photos of WIRE from the gig.> >>
> > After the gig
> > >> I had to START TO MOVE pretty sharp and
> jumped on the night
> > >> > > train where I was entertained by
> conversation with
> > >> a former theatre > > director who had
> just aborted a
> > >> trip to Turkey. He recommended a trip to >
> >
> > >> Tiergarten which proved very good advice. My
> first police
> > >> encounter was > > with two cops on the
> Ostbahnhof
> > >> platform who took a rather long time >
> > checking to
> > >> find out if Interpol have a warrant out on me
> for listening
> > >> to > > music in my living room. Berlin
> is also very
> > >> cool and well worth a visit > > in its
> own right, but
> > >> smells worse than Brussels.> >> >
> The first
> > >> night was free before the arrival of KILLING
> JOKE so I
> > >> checked > > out the SO36 venue where
> they and WIRE
> > >> played, which was immortalised in a > >
> song on the
> > >> first KILLING JOKE album. The sound was
> excellent as are all
> > >> > > other German venues I've ever
> been to. The
> > >> soundman played KILLING JOKE > > before
> the headline
> > >> act, a comedy punk trio who weren't very
> funny but >
> > >> > probably liked DEVO. We talked after the
> gig and I run
> > >> into him again at > > the KILLING JOKE
> gigs.>
> > >> >> > After the amazing KILLING JOKE
> regeneration in
> > >> Berlin, with Big Paul's > > drum
> kit illuminated
> > >> and smoking ritualistically, I planned to
> head to > >
> > >> Paris to see them there. The train times were
> TOO LATE so at
> > >> the last > > minute I rerouted to
> Strasbourg for more
> > >> WIRE and this proved a wise > > choice
> as the COMET
> > >> hit very late and I caught the whole set in
> front of a >
> > >> > very young and enthusiastic crowd at a
> festival that
> > >> went on until 6am. > > Next day my
> second run in with
> > >> cops was with two French transport police
> > > who ask
> > >> me to wrap up my sword so that it
> couldn't be seen
> > >> before I caught > > the train.>
> >> > Paris
> > >> next for more WIRE, on a first class train
> where I started
> > >> downing > > some of the left over
> Heineken from last
> > >> night's rider and upset a French >
> > idiot who had
> > >> a tantrum because I couldn't stop
> belching even when she
> > >> > > kicked my chair. She complained to
> the guard and
> > >> he clearly thought it was > > a bit
> silly having to
> > >> ask me not to belch when I couldn't help
> it. In the >
> > >> > end she started complaining I was
> playing the BUTTHOLE
> > >> SURFERS too loud on > > my headphones
> and he came
> > >> back, again embarrassed, to ask me to turn it
> > >
> > >> down. Then she had a stroke of genius and
> moved to another
> > >> seat. Perhaps > > its a good job the
> sword was
> > >> wrapped!> > If you ever feel like going
> to Paris my
> > >> advice is don't bother. Go in a > >
> cafe that
> > >> advertises coffee for a Euro and they greasy
> waiters will
> > >> > > chearge you five.> >> >
> It was nice to
> > >> speed back to Belgium and Brussels which was
> already >
> > >> > seeming like a second home. I found many
> cool CDs in
> > >> the shops, including > > quite
> appropriately
> > >> COMMERCIAL SUICIDE. Being there for three
> days I had >
> > >> > plenty of time to explore and each day
> surpassed the
> > >> previous one. I met > > so many great
> people in
> > >> Belgium I felt like moving there!>
> >> > My
> > >> favourite songs to listen to on a speeding
> train were>
> > >> > KILLING JOKE - Pssyche> > WIRE -
> Drill (DJ
> > >> Fuckoff Version)> > oh dear the
> moderate Craig
> > >> won't like that will he?> > KILLING
> JOKE -
> > >> Timewave> > PJ HARVEY - Taut> >
> EINSTURZENDE
> > >> NEUBAUTEN - Haus Der Lauge> > BAND OF
> SUSANS - Guitar
> > >> Trio> > KILLING JOKE - Empire Song>
> > WIRE -
> > >> Germ Ship> > WIRE - Spent> >
> BUTTHOLE SURFERS -
> > >> Who was in my room last night?> >>
> > Back home
> > >> after another awesome double dose of the
> mighty JOKE I had a
> > >> day > > of rest and didn't even
> have time enough
> > >> to notice what a terminal dump > >
> Manchester is
> > >> because the MELVINS wheeled in to rock the
> town and give me
> > >> > > a chance to catch up with lots of
> old friends.
> > >> That is the great thing > > about
> Manchester, lots of
> > >> good gigs.> >> > Next day I was
> off again to
> > >> London for the KILLING JOKE homecoming and as
> > >
> > >> chaotic synchronicity would have it, THALIA
> ZEDEK and her
> > >> band began their > > tour the very next
> day. She's
> > >> a brilliant intense songwriter. Check her
> > > out
> > >> while you still can...> >> >
> > >> www.myspace.com/thaliazedek> >> >
> Her tour ends
> > >> on October 23 at La Botanique in
> Brussels!> >> >
> > >> I went to all the THALIA ZEDEK BAND gigs in
> England and
> > >> after the best one > > at Hull Adelphi
> I had to zoom
> > >> down to Cheam in Surrey for my younger >
> >
> > >> sister's wedding. The lavish reception
> was held on a
> > >> Territorial Army base > > but my uncles
> and I resisted
> > >> the temptation to hijack a tank. One thing I
> > > gave
> > >> her was a copy of 'UH HUH HER' by PJ
> HARVEY as
> > >> "The Desperate Kingdom > > of
> Love"
> > >> couldn't really be a better song to wish
> for a long
> > >> loving > > marriage, at the end of this
> burning
> > >> world.> >> > Then I went home to
> transcribe
> > >> interesting interviews with MAGAZINE and >
> > WIRE,
> > >> blow up some more stereo speakers, and wait
> for civilization
> > >> to fall > > in its grave.> >>
> >
> > >> ACCELERATE> > ACCELERATE> >>
> >>
> > >> >> >> >> >> >
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From crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk  Mon Nov  3 10:04:11 2008
From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk (Sarah's Putrefying Kunt)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 15:04:11 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [kj] OT: LORDS OF THE NEW CHURCH
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Lords of the New Church were one of the most boring bands I've ever seen back in the eighties at Salisbury Arse Centre.


      

From pmdavies at gmail.com  Mon Nov  3 10:08:07 2008
From: pmdavies at gmail.com (iPat)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 15:08:07 +0000
Subject: [kj] hey! asbo boy
Message-ID: <1646350c0811030708n7cb5828fx9fdb47a176d19bdf@mail.gmail.com>

why dont you go and sell some more drugs to finance your trips around

From bq at soundgardener.co.nz  Mon Nov  3 10:12:08 2008
From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 04:12:08 +1300 (NZDT)
Subject: [kj] I quit work to work in music
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"What about Benicio Del Toro as Jaz? ;)"

Fucking genius!

>
> bah...
>
> It'd be nice....  Although I might be laid off soon...so who knows!
>
> What about Benicio Del Toro as Jaz? ;)
>
>
> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 19:31:01 -0700
> From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com
> To: gathering at misera.net
> Subject: Re: [kj] Joaquin Phoenix quits film to work in music
>
>
>
>
> P.S.:
>
>
> On a much more neurotic, "alternative/indie," or "querky"-neurotic-edgy
> angle,
> there's..
>
> Alan Cummings or PeeWee Herman as Youth
> Glen Rockwell or Ed Norton as Geordie
> and Nicholas Cage* as Jaz Coleman
>
> *or, Ben Stiller or
>      Robert Carlyle [think Begbie in Trainspotting..],
>
>
>
> ... ... ... ... ... ...
>
> [looking at the current state of things..]
>
> 'Save me...
>   save me from Tomorrow..
>     I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: sade1 <saulomar1 at yahoo.com>
> To: gathering <gathering at misera.net>
> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 7:11:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [kj] Joaquin Phoenix quits film to work in music
>
>
>
>
>
> That is pretty close.
>
> For a younger Geordie, maybe
> (a blond) Hugh Jackman as Geordie
> http://www.everyguy.com/images/hugh_jackman/hugh_jackman5_eg.jpg
> and either John Cusack or Mike Myers as Youth.
>
>
> ... ... ... ... ... ...
>
> [looking at the current state of things..]
>
> 'Save me...
>   save me from Tomorrow..
>     I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>
> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
> <gathering at misera.net>; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
> <gathering at misera.net>
> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 12:34:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [kj] Joaquin Phoenix quits film to work in music
>
>
>
>
> Always thought Geordie looked like actor Charles Dance:
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/drama/content/images/2007/04/19/charles_dance_396x222.jpg
>
> http://www.virginmedia.com/images/charlesdance-gal-shinealight.jpg
>
> Alex in NYC
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sade1
> Sent: Oct 31, 2008 3:14 PM
> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
> Subject: Re: [kj] Joaquin Phoenix quits film to work in music
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I'd cast Joacquin Phoenix as Jaz in an imaginary biopic, and John Stamos
> as Big Paul;
> Keanu Reeves can be Youth, Tim Curry would be Paul Raven and a young
> Rutger Hauer as Geordie.
>
>
> ... ... ... ... ... ...
>
> [looking at the current state of things..]
>
> 'Save me...
>   save me from Tomorrow..
>     I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
> <gathering at misera.net>
> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 2:24:43 AM
> Subject: Re: [kj] Joaquin Phoenix quits film to work in music
>
> I don't mind Phoenix, (although his name sounds like a semi ridiculous
> stage name, if it's not I stand corrected), but I thought him doing Johnny
> Cash was a bit luke warm to be honest.
>
>> Joaquin ---> Johnny ---> Jaz next?
>>
>> First he plays Johnny Cash, now he's quitting films forever to go into
>> music.
>> If only he could portray Jaz in the (now shelved?) KJ film in the works.
>>
>> Joaquin Phoenix http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/joaquinphoenix_blog.html
>> vid
>> http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b65859_Joaquin_Phoenix_Calls_It_a_Career_.html
>>
>>
>> ... ... ... ... ... ...
>>
>> [looking at the current state of things..]
>>
>> 'Save me...
>>   save me from Tomorrow..
>>     I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'
>>
>>
>>
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From bq at soundgardener.co.nz  Mon Nov  3 10:21:12 2008
From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 04:21:12 +1300 (NZDT)
Subject: [kj] OT: LORDS OF THE NEW CHURCH
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Cracker of an opportunity to set up a vitamin D stall as well ;)

>
> its actually the 2nd nov ;D  have you tried  a punk or goth music
> convention also known as a fair? we have alot of these in uk about every
> week in london where you can get hold of rare music items,long
> players-bootlegs audio n dvd-photos- well memorabilia really or how about
> ebay? or why dont you advertise what your looking for in a  punk/goth
> mag,there must be someone who has just what your looking for to either
> swop or sell to you ;),good luck> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 23:34:23 -0500>
> From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re:
> [kj] OT: LORDS OF THE NEW CHURCH> > Well, since today, Nov. 1, is actually
> SAMHAIN, it seemed apropos to > post some Samhain music.> > I still think
> Samhain's last (and best) LP, _November-Coming-Fire_ has a > lot of
> seeming Killing Joke influence.> > Also, probably a lot of KJ fans have an
> interest in horror punk-type > groups like The Damned and the (original)
> Misfits. It's still weird and > cool to me that The Damned and The Misfits
> toured together. Would love > to find any live recordings from those
> shows. As far as I know, no > PHOTOS, much less AUDIO, exists from the
> legendary Damned/Misfits tour > of England from '79/'80. All I know that
> came of it is The Misfits song > "London Dungeon."> > -Oliver> > > >
> melinda grant wrote:> > thanks for the education i think i may try and get
> hold of the c.d > > now i am going to try and sleep ;D cheers for those
> lyrics--for > > bothering to post them up-all hard of hearing on the list
> will > > appreciate lol !!> >> >
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From bq at soundgardener.co.nz  Mon Nov  3 10:23:08 2008
From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 04:23:08 +1300 (NZDT)
Subject: [kj] OT: LORDS OF THE NEW CHURCH
In-Reply-To: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC0722A0@mr-pants.the-lab.local>
References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC0722A0@mr-pants.the-lab.local>
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Evil Elvis did what all filthy punks do who see the light, came over to
Metal and STAYED THERE...a la Killing Joke.

> Not into the Misfits myself, but yeah, lurve The Damned!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of B. Oliver Sheppard
> Sent: 02 November 2008 04:34
> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: LORDS OF THE NEW CHURCH
>
>
> Well, since today, Nov. 1, is actually SAMHAIN, it seemed apropos to
> post some Samhain music.
>
> I still think Samhain's last (and best) LP, _November-Coming-Fire_ has a
> lot of seeming Killing Joke influence.
>
> Also, probably a lot of KJ fans have an interest in horror punk-type
> groups like The Damned and the (original) Misfits. It's still weird and
> cool to me that The Damned and The Misfits toured together. Would love
> to find any live recordings from those shows. As far as I know, no
> PHOTOS, much less AUDIO, exists from the legendary Damned/Misfits tour
> of England from '79/'80. All I know that came of it is The Misfits song
> "London Dungeon."
>
> -Oliver
>
>
>
> melinda grant wrote:
>> thanks for the education i think i may try and get hold of the c.d
>> now i am going to try and sleep ;D  cheers for those lyrics--for
>> bothering to post them up-all hard of hearing  on the list will
>> appreciate lol !!
>>
>
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From partyslammer at socal.rr.com  Mon Nov  3 11:59:40 2008
From: partyslammer at socal.rr.com (TB)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 08:59:40 -0800
Subject: [kj] OT: LORDS OF THE NEW CHURCH
In-Reply-To: <860257.69884.qm@web23205.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
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"Sarah's Putrefying Kunt" wrote:


> Lords of the New Church were one of the most boring bands I've ever seen 
> back in the eighties at Salisbury Arse Centre.

I dunno.  I caught dozens of shows and I'd say I probably saw one or two 
real clunkers.  One that sticks in my head was around '86 in a small club 
were about 20 people showed up and everyone in the band was sick (or 
hungover) and by about the 3rd song, Stiv started taking requests and they 
played a handful of sloppy 60's garage band covers like "Route 66" and 
"Peter Gunn."  Although the show ended on an inspired up note when they 
played a long, off-the-cuff mashup of "New Church" and The Door's "The End."

T.B. 


From folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com  Mon Nov  3 12:10:50 2008
From: folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com (folk devil)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 09:10:50 -0800
Subject: [kj] Bonzo Goes to Hell
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He hasn't 'won' yet.
 
"> Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 12:19:57 +0000> From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: [kj] Bonzo Goes to Hell> > 'I should add that when Johnny stated ?God Bless George Bush' at the 2002 Rock&Roll Hall of Fame awards, I realize now that he was on to something. Because if it were not for George Bush and his handling of our country the past 8 years, I doubt so many Americans, including so many highly regarded Republicans, would now be getting behind Barack Obama. So, yes, thank God for George Bush for paving the way to Obama.'> > > ~ ~ Mickey Leigh> > 
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From joker at Z6.com  Mon Nov  3 12:36:27 2008
From: joker at Z6.com (Rob's Arse)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 09:36:27 -0800
Subject: [kj] Arse Tax
Message-ID: <20081103093627.4FF68F15@resin15.mta.everyone.net>


Fuck me mate.

Your head is completely addled!

I'm sure that when you sit down to type, something happens between your brain and your fingers that result in this utter drivvle. Add that one to your list of words that will never make it into KJ lyrics, numpty! In fact, there's two.

Right, I'm off home. I've had a fucking hard day working, paying my tax and killing people.

Wazzock!





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--- crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk wrote:

From: Sarah's Kunt <crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk>
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)" <gathering at misera.net>
Subject: [kj] Arse Tax
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 12:25:58 +0000 (GMT)

I'm quite happy to talk shit to Rob's Arse/face but only AFTER he's had it out with Jaz over the tax evasion issue and told Youth that his art is shit. I guess Youth will be raking in a lot more dosh making so called 'shit' art (wow what an illuminating critique!) than Arse will making Scuzzy Hoodies as the Credit Crunch hits lunch, dinner and tea.

As for taking the moral high ground with Jaz over tax avoidance, that is so laughably hypocritical as to be almost beneath contempt. Here we are in a nation run by an unelected buffoon who has sold off all the gold reserves in a grossly backfiring attempt to boost his economic acumen, who continues illegal and highly immoral occupations of other nations and props up his mates in the shitty city when it is them who've wiped out the pensions and destroyed homes with their sub prime bullshit hedge cons. 

Anyone in Britain or the USA who pays taxes has NO MORAL IMPERATIVE whatsoever. You are all complicit in mass murder and corruption whether you deny it or not. I'm sure Jaz can find much more productive ways to invest for the future than the greedy shits who run the Western World.

If anyone would like to hit me in the pub for typing this, then go ahead. You'll probably just end up in a cell instead of at a Killing Joke gig and I'll end up with a funny story to bore everyone with! Then there'll be less at the headcount.

Sorry to bore you all so.
Now back to your insufferably interesting diet of the 
infinite wisdom of the Exorcist, a Wazzock slagging Youth's art with zero critique, tech-heads judging Geordie's guitar sound on the basis of a COMPRESSED digital file, and vacuous Americans wailing and gnashing teeth over Jaz Coleman's tendency to exaggerate and not always be truthful like his momma shoulda told him.

Vote Republican!
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From jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk  Mon Nov  3 12:56:16 2008
From: jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk (jo)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 17:56:16 -0000
Subject: [kj] Arse Tax
References: <635090.8153.qm@web23203.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <04e701c93ddd$77f68080$0100000a@jo>


> Anyone in Britain or the USA who pays taxes has NO MORAL IMPERATIVE 
> whatsoever.
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

Morals aren't imperative.  Nice if you can afford them, a bit like taxes;-) 
but they're not essential.  How can you have moral imperative? 


From christophe.barry at wanadoo.fr  Mon Nov  3 13:14:13 2008
From: christophe.barry at wanadoo.fr (Christophe BARRY)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 19:14:13 +0100
Subject: [kj] OT: The Lords
In-Reply-To: <01E7DD2A6BE547B8A78EAA6AB8517D9C@Bell2007PC>
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Yeah it was.
The mp3s had already been shared in the family
Does someone have it online yet ?
Christophe

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Objet?: Re: [kj] OT: The Lords


"Christophe BARRY" wrote:


I saw them opening for our favorite boyz band in the late 80's in Lyon...
Christophe

++++++

Wow.  That would have been a killer show.

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From bq at soundgardener.co.nz  Mon Nov  3 13:28:57 2008
From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 07:28:57 +1300 (NZDT)
Subject: [kj] Bonzo Goes to Hell
In-Reply-To: <BAY107-W9B921ABDD8827E80762A5ED1D0@phx.gbl>
References: <B74A1FBF4AA04EFF8161D9FA0CCEFCBC@osadm.net>
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Whatever happens I'll raise a toast that Bush is gone, thank Dog for small
mercies. What a disgrace, I hope history treats him with the contempt he
deserves.

>
> He hasn't 'won' yet.
>
> "> Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 12:19:57 +0000> From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk>
> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: [kj] Bonzo Goes to Hell> > 'I should
> add that when Johnny stated ?God Bless George Bush' at the 2002 Rock&Roll
> Hall of Fame awards, I realize now that he was on to something. Because if
> it were not for George Bush and his handling of our country the past 8
> years, I doubt so many Americans, including so many highly regarded
> Republicans, would now be getting behind Barack Obama. So, yes, thank God
> for George Bush for paving the way to Obama.'> > > ~ ~ Mickey Leigh> >
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From folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com  Mon Nov  3 13:32:58 2008
From: folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com (folk devil)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 10:32:58 -0800
Subject: [kj] Bonzo Goes to Hell
In-Reply-To: <42084.203.210.68.145.1225736937.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz>
References: <B74A1FBF4AA04EFF8161D9FA0CCEFCBC@osadm.net>
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Absolutely! But, if McCain gets in...I'm turning Mayan ;)
"> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 07:28:57 +1300> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re: [kj] Bonzo Goes to Hell> > Whatever happens I'll raise a toast that Bush is gone, thank Dog for small> mercies. What a disgrace, I hope history treats him with the contempt he> deserves.> > >> > He hasn't 'won' yet.> >> > "> Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 12:19:57 +0000> From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk>> > To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: [kj] Bonzo Goes to Hell> > 'I should> > add that when Johnny stated ?God Bless George Bush' at the 2002 Rock&Roll> > Hall of Fame awards, I realize now that he was on to something. Because if> > it were not for George Bush and his handling of our country the past 8> > years, I doubt so many Americans, including so many highly regarded> > Republicans, would now be getting behind Barack Obama. So, yes, thank God> > for George Bush for paving the way to Obama.'> > > ~ ~ Mickey Leigh> >> > _________________________________________________________________> >
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From bq at soundgardener.co.nz  Mon Nov  3 13:41:34 2008
From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 07:41:34 +1300 (NZDT)
Subject: [kj] Arse Tax
In-Reply-To: <04e701c93ddd$77f68080$0100000a@jo>
References: <635090.8153.qm@web23203.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
	<04e701c93ddd$77f68080$0100000a@jo>
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Moral imperative is based on the values of your culture / society, but if
nothing else, they come from your conscience.

If you are a self-aware person, and other-aware, and honest, then
eventually you will develop a conscience, or face the consequences (i.e.
you become that much less honest, less aware, less compassionate.)

Try it. Opt out of giving a shit, then kill a bird or a mouse, for the
hell of it. See if it was that easy.

>
>> Anyone in Britain or the USA who pays taxes has NO MORAL IMPERATIVE
>> whatsoever.
> :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
>
> Morals aren't imperative.  Nice if you can afford them, a bit like
> taxes;-)
> but they're not essential.  How can you have moral imperative?
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From fatpotanga at gmail.com  Mon Nov  3 13:44:32 2008
From: fatpotanga at gmail.com (fatpotanga)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 18:44:32 +0000
Subject: [kj] Arse Tax
In-Reply-To: <04e701c93ddd$77f68080$0100000a@jo>
References: <635090.8153.qm@web23203.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
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On 3 Nov 2008, at 17:56, jo wrote:

> How can you have moral imperative?


Absolutely!
Morality is subjective.
Subjectivity is objective (but not in a rational scheme of perception)
But then, perception is irrational as it implies immanence.
The judgement of any system of phenomena exists in any rational,  
metaphysical or epistemological contradiction to an abstracted  
empirical concept such as being, or to be, or to occur in the thing  
itself, or of the thing itself. Which I'm sure is something we've all  
said many times.
In short, moral notions imply attributes to substances which exist  
only in relational duality but not as an essential extension of  
ontological existence.


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From bq at soundgardener.co.nz  Mon Nov  3 13:55:47 2008
From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 07:55:47 +1300 (NZDT)
Subject: [kj] Bonzo Goes to Hell
In-Reply-To: <BAY107-W3258A5A27E8F2B909AD51CED1D0@phx.gbl>
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Hey what an idea...how cool would a worldwide FUCK BUSH party be (oo-er)?
I wonder if it's too late to start one?

Okay...who has any friends?

>
> Absolutely! But, if McCain gets in...I'm turning Mayan ;)
> "> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 07:28:57 +1300> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz> To:
> gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re: [kj] Bonzo Goes to Hell> > Whatever
> happens I'll raise a toast that Bush is gone, thank Dog for small>
> mercies. What a disgrace, I hope history treats him with the contempt he>
> deserves.> > >> > He hasn't 'won' yet.> >> > "> Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008
> 12:19:57 +0000> From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk>> > To:
> gathering at misera.net> Subject: [kj] Bonzo Goes to Hell> > 'I should> > add
> that when Johnny stated ?God Bless George Bush' at the 2002 Rock&Roll> >
> Hall of Fame awards, I realize now that he was on to something. Because
> if> > it were not for George Bush and his handling of our country the past
> 8> > years, I doubt so many Americans, including so many highly regarded>
> > Republicans, would now be getting behind Barack Obama. So, yes, thank
> God> > for George Bush for paving the way to Obama.'> > > ~ ~ Mickey
> Leigh> >> >
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From letranger789 at yahoo.com  Mon Nov  3 14:02:45 2008
From: letranger789 at yahoo.com (The Stranger)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 11:02:45 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [kj] Arse Tax
References: <635090.8153.qm@web23203.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
	<04e701c93ddd$77f68080$0100000a@jo>
	<88BB47D7-0157-4440-998C-36D697564EEF@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <587663.7282.qm@web36704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Weird, I was just gonna say that!!!




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From: fatpotanga <fatpotanga at gmail.com>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Monday, November 3, 2008 1:44:32 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] Arse Tax

On 3 Nov 2008, at 17:56, jo wrote:

> How can you have moral imperative?


Absolutely!
Morality is subjective.
Subjectivity is objective (but not in a rational scheme of perception)
But then, perception is irrational as it implies immanence.
The judgement of any system of phenomena exists in any rational, metaphysical or epistemological contradiction to an abstracted empirical concept such as being, or to be, or to occur in the thing itself, or of the thing itself. Which I'm sure is something we've all said many times.
In short, moral notions imply attributes to substances which exist only in relational duality but not as an essential extension of ontological existence.


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From jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk  Mon Nov  3 13:59:33 2008
From: jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk (jo)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 18:59:33 -0000
Subject: [kj] Arse Tax
References: <635090.8153.qm@web23203.mail.ird.yahoo.com><04e701c93ddd$77f68080$0100000a@jo>
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> How can you have moral imperative?


Absolutely!
Morality is subjective.
Subjectivity is objective (but not in a rational scheme of perception)
But then, perception is irrational as it implies immanence.
The judgement of any system of phenomena exists in any rational,
metaphysical or epistemological contradiction to an abstracted
empirical concept such as being, or to be, or to occur in the thing
itself, or of the thing itself. Which I'm sure is something we've all
said many times.
In short, moral notions imply attributes to substances which exist
only in relational duality but not as an essential extension of
ontological existence.


::::::::::::::::::::

oh yes, let's not autonomise.  No capital em for morals - similarly society 
and economy. 


From LONESTYLE at aol.com  Mon Nov  3 13:59:00 2008
From: LONESTYLE at aol.com (LONESTYLE at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 13:59:00 EST
Subject: [kj] OT: Descendents Co-Founder Frank Navetta Dies
Message-ID: <d16.3a9b436c.3640a3f4@aol.com>

Man, I saw The Decendents a few times back in their hey days early in  1982 
and beyond and they were always a great band live. 
 
RIP 
 
~LB
 
 
 
 
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From bq at soundgardener.co.nz  Mon Nov  3 14:04:44 2008
From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 08:04:44 +1300 (NZDT)
Subject: [kj] Arse Tax
In-Reply-To: <88BB47D7-0157-4440-998C-36D697564EEF@gmail.com>
References: <635090.8153.qm@web23203.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
	<04e701c93ddd$77f68080$0100000a@jo>
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Fatpotanga:

"In short, moral notions imply attributes to substances which exist
only in relational duality but not as an essential extension of
ontological existence. I rest my case"

Jury:

"We the jury find you guilty. And drop the ridiculous name - you're not
even slightly Samoan."

"Fuck."


> On 3 Nov 2008, at 17:56, jo wrote:
>
>> How can you have moral imperative?
>
>
> Absolutely!
> Morality is subjective.
> Subjectivity is objective (but not in a rational scheme of perception)
> But then, perception is irrational as it implies immanence.
> The judgement of any system of phenomena exists in any rational,
> metaphysical or epistemological contradiction to an abstracted
> empirical concept such as being, or to be, or to occur in the thing
> itself, or of the thing itself. Which I'm sure is something we've all
> said many times.
> In short, moral notions imply attributes to substances which exist
> only in relational duality but not as an essential extension of
> ontological existence.
>
>
> ---
> http://www.iamscuzzy.com - go there. it's nice.
>
> <?(((>< ~ only dead fish go with the flow
>
> _______________________________________________
> Gathering mailing list
> Gathering at misera.net
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From jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk  Mon Nov  3 14:05:08 2008
From: jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk (jo)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 19:05:08 -0000
Subject: [kj] Arse Tax
References: <635090.8153.qm@web23203.mail.ird.yahoo.com><04e701c93ddd$77f68080$0100000a@jo>
	<51498.203.210.68.145.1225737694.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz>
Message-ID: <052901c93de7$170a71f0$0100000a@jo>

> If you are a self-aware person, and other-aware, and honest, then
> eventually you will develop a conscience, or face the consequences (i.e.
> you become that much less honest, less aware, less compassionate.)

:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

and this is a 'good' thing?

From bq at soundgardener.co.nz  Mon Nov  3 14:17:31 2008
From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 08:17:31 +1300 (NZDT)
Subject: [kj] Arse Tax
In-Reply-To: <052901c93de7$170a71f0$0100000a@jo>
References: <635090.8153.qm@web23203.mail.ird.yahoo.com><04e701c93ddd$77f68080$0100000a@jo>
	<51498.203.210.68.145.1225737694.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz>
	<052901c93de7$170a71f0$0100000a@jo>
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I'm saying having a Conscience that drives your morals or values (and
constantly evaluates them) is a good thig yes. It's here on page seven.

>> If you are a self-aware person, and other-aware, and honest, then
>> eventually you will develop a conscience, or face the consequences (i.e.
>> you become that much less honest, less aware, less compassionate.)
>
> :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
>
> and this is a 'good' thing?
> _______________________________________________
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From humanhybrid666 at gmail.com  Mon Nov  3 14:20:38 2008
From: humanhybrid666 at gmail.com (bongo)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 08:20:38 +1300
Subject: [kj] Arse Tax
In-Reply-To: <88BB47D7-0157-4440-998C-36D697564EEF@gmail.com>
References: <635090.8153.qm@web23203.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
	<04e701c93ddd$77f68080$0100000a@jo>
	<88BB47D7-0157-4440-998C-36D697564EEF@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ce16091e0811031120t12cbaa6ci54450a70581437e9@mail.gmail.com>

i think i'd need a strong coffee and a good spliff to try and figure that
out!

i'm sure you must get some points for all them big words tho!


=)



On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 7:44 AM, fatpotanga <fatpotanga at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 3 Nov 2008, at 17:56, jo wrote:
>
> How can you have moral imperative?
>>
>
>
> Absolutely!
> Morality is subjective.
> Subjectivity is objective (but not in a rational scheme of perception)
> But then, perception is irrational as it implies immanence.
> The judgement of any system of phenomena exists in any rational,
> metaphysical or epistemological contradiction to an abstracted empirical
> concept such as being, or to be, or to occur in the thing itself, or of the
> thing itself. Which I'm sure is something we've all said many times.
> In short, moral notions imply attributes to substances which exist only in
> relational duality but not as an essential extension of ontological
> existence.
>
>
> ---
> http://www.iamscuzzy.com - go there. it's nice.
>
> <?(((>< ~ only dead fish go with the flow
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Gathering mailing list
> Gathering at misera.net
> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
>



-- 


"due to a lack of trained trumpeters, the end of the world has been
postponed indefinitely..."
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From humanhybrid666 at gmail.com  Mon Nov  3 14:23:18 2008
From: humanhybrid666 at gmail.com (bongo)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 08:23:18 +1300
Subject: [kj] OT: Descendents Co-Founder Frank Navetta Dies
In-Reply-To: <d16.3a9b436c.3640a3f4@aol.com>
References: <d16.3a9b436c.3640a3f4@aol.com>
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love/d the descendants...  =(


rip



On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 7:59 AM, <LONESTYLE at aol.com> wrote:

>  Man, I saw The Decendents a few times back in their hey days early in
> 1982 and beyond and they were always a great band live.
>
> RIP
>
> ~LB
>
>
>
>
>
> http://www.spinner.com/2008/11/03/descendents-co-founder-frank-navetta-dies/
>
>
>
>
>
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-- 


"due to a lack of trained trumpeters, the end of the world has been
postponed indefinitely..."
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From bq at soundgardener.co.nz  Mon Nov  3 14:31:16 2008
From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 08:31:16 +1300 (NZDT)
Subject: [kj] OT: STOP TOXIC FLAMING RETARDS: CHANGE NEEDED
Message-ID: <25025.203.210.68.145.1225740676.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz>

http://www.dailytech.com/The+Case+Against+Chemical+Flame+Retardants/article13337.htm




From folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com  Mon Nov  3 14:36:12 2008
From: folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com (folk devil)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 11:36:12 -0800
Subject: [kj] Arse Tax
In-Reply-To: <88BB47D7-0157-4440-998C-36D697564EEF@gmail.com>
References: <635090.8153.qm@web23203.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
	<04e701c93ddd$77f68080$0100000a@jo> 
	<88BB47D7-0157-4440-998C-36D697564EEF@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY107-W49711CE3EF51EC2B68E282ED1D0@phx.gbl>


bloody transcendentalist ;)
"."> From: fatpotanga at gmail.com> To: gathering at misera.net> Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 18:44:32 +0000> Subject: Re: [kj] Arse Tax> > On 3 Nov 2008, at 17:56, jo wrote:> > > How can you have moral imperative?> > > Absolutely!> Morality is subjective.> Subjectivity is objective (but not in a rational scheme of perception)> But then, perception is irrational as it implies immanence.> The judgement of any system of phenomena exists in any rational, > metaphysical or epistemological contradiction to an abstracted > empirical concept such as being, or to be, or to occur in the thing > itself, or of the thing itself. Which I'm sure is something we've all > said many times.> In short, moral notions imply attributes to substances which exist > only in relational duality but not as an essential extension of > ontological existence.> > > ---> http://www.iamscuzzy.com - go there. it's nice.> > <?(((>< ~ only dead fish go with the flow> > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
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From folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com  Mon Nov  3 14:37:45 2008
From: folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com (folk devil)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 11:37:45 -0800
Subject: [kj] OT: STOP TOXIC FLAMING RETARDS: CHANGE NEEDED
In-Reply-To: <25025.203.210.68.145.1225740676.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz>
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we'll all be growing second heads in no time!
what with this and all the GM food.."> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 08:31:16 +1300> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: [kj] OT: STOP TOXIC FLAMING RETARDS: CHANGE NEEDED> > http://www.dailytech.com/The+Case+Against+Chemical+Flame+Retardants/article13337.htm> > > > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
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From folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com  Mon Nov  3 14:40:45 2008
From: folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com (folk devil)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 11:40:45 -0800
Subject: [kj] OT: STOP TOXIC FLAMING RETARDS: CHANGE NEEDED
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Message-ID: <BAY107-W56A5D108D05BFAEA131B48ED1D0@phx.gbl>


and don't forget the good ol' JPL. 
http://articles.latimes.com/1997/sep/23/local/me-35190
"> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 08:31:16 +1300> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: [kj] OT: STOP TOXIC FLAMING RETARDS: CHANGE NEEDED> > http://www.dailytech.com/The+Case+Against+Chemical+Flame+Retardants/article13337.htm> > > > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
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From jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk  Mon Nov  3 14:47:11 2008
From: jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk (jo)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 19:47:11 -0000
Subject: [kj] Arse Tax
References: <635090.8153.qm@web23203.mail.ird.yahoo.com><04e701c93ddd$77f68080$0100000a@jo>
	<88BB47D7-0157-4440-998C-36D697564EEF@gmail.com>
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ha - they get everywhere


  bloody transcendentalist ;)


  "."



  > From: fatpotanga at gmail.com
  > To: gathering at misera.net
  > Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 18:44:32 +0000
  > Subject: Re: [kj] Arse Tax
  > 
  > On 3 Nov 2008, at 17:56, jo wrote:
  > 
  > > How can you have moral imperative?
  > 
  > 
  > Absolutely!
  > Morality is subjective.
  > Subjectivity is objective (but not in a rational scheme of perception)
  > But then, perception is irrational as it implies immanence.
  > The judgement of any system of phenomena exists in any rational, 
  > metaphysical or epistemological contradiction to an abstracted 
  > empirical concept such as being, or to be, or to occur in the thing 
  > itself, or of the thing itself. Which I'm sure is something we've all 
  > said many times.
  > In short, moral notions imply attributes to substances which exist 
  > only in relational duality but not as an essential extension of 
  > ontological existence.
  > 
  > 
  > ---
  > http://www.iamscuzzy.com - go there. it's nice.
  > 
  > <?(((>< ~ only dead fish go with the flow
  > 
  > _______________________________________________
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From fatpotanga at gmail.com  Mon Nov  3 14:52:18 2008
From: fatpotanga at gmail.com (fatpotanga)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 19:52:18 +0000
Subject: [kj] Arse Tax
In-Reply-To: <ce16091e0811031120t12cbaa6ci54450a70581437e9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <635090.8153.qm@web23203.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
	<04e701c93ddd$77f68080$0100000a@jo>
	<88BB47D7-0157-4440-998C-36D697564EEF@gmail.com>
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On 3 Nov 2008, at 19:20, bongo wrote:
> i think i'd need a strong coffee and a good spliff to try and figure  
> that out!


I must confess I'm with you mate
It might just have been an amalgamation of two bits of dialogue from  
Woody Allens 'Love & Death'

=:-[gasp]

From jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk  Mon Nov  3 14:51:59 2008
From: jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk (jo)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 19:51:59 -0000
Subject: [kj] Arse Tax
References: <635090.8153.qm@web23203.mail.ird.yahoo.com><04e701c93ddd$77f68080$0100000a@jo><88BB47D7-0157-4440-998C-36D697564EEF@gmail.com>
	<ce16091e0811031120t12cbaa6ci54450a70581437e9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <05b001c93ded$a26f33b0$0100000a@jo>

and in such a short time - copy and paste?:-)))


  i'm sure you must get some points for all them big words tho!


  =)


   
  On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 7:44 AM, fatpotanga <fatpotanga at gmail.com> wrote:

    On 3 Nov 2008, at 17:56, jo wrote:


      How can you have moral imperative?




    Absolutely!
    Morality is subjective.
    Subjectivity is objective (but not in a rational scheme of perception)
    But then, perception is irrational as it implies immanence.
    The judgement of any system of phenomena exists in any rational, metaphysical or epistemological contradiction to an abstracted empirical concept such as being, or to be, or to occur in the thing itself, or of the thing itself. Which I'm sure is something we've all said many times.
    In short, moral notions imply attributes to substances which exist only in relational duality but not as an essential extension of ontological existence.


    ---
    http://www.iamscuzzy.com - go there. it's nice.

    <?(((>< ~ only dead fish go with the flow 


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From bq at soundgardener.co.nz  Mon Nov  3 14:50:37 2008
From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 08:50:37 +1300 (NZDT)
Subject: [kj] OT: STOP TOXIC FLAMING RETARDS: CHANGE NEEDED
In-Reply-To: <BAY107-W1585604C84812A5E1A06E4ED1D0@phx.gbl>
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I kinda linked to it more for the excuse to use the subject that I did ;P

But yes...boringly enough I've been watching this issue for years. There
is a newish standard called ROHS that I try to look for when buying PC kit
in particular, and these days my cellphone is off most of the time.

>
> we'll all be growing second heads in no time!
> what with this and all the GM food.."> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 08:31:16
> +1300> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject:
> [kj] OT: STOP TOXIC FLAMING RETARDS: CHANGE NEEDED> >
> http://www.dailytech.com/The+Case+Against+Chemical+Flame+Retardants/article13337.htm>
> > > > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing
> list> Gathering at misera.net>
> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
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From jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk  Mon Nov  3 14:49:37 2008
From: jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk (jo)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 19:49:37 -0000
Subject: [kj] Arse Tax
References: <635090.8153.qm@web23203.mail.ird.yahoo.com><04e701c93ddd$77f68080$0100000a@jo><51498.203.210.68.145.1225737694.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz><052901c93de7$170a71f0$0100000a@jo>
	<14112.203.210.68.145.1225739851.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz>
Message-ID: <059301c93ded$4db3eaf0$0100000a@jo>

Ah but if you want a healthy dose of self actualization you don't need a 
conscience or morals; just follow your instincts.



> I'm saying having a Conscience that drives your morals or values (and
> constantly evaluates them) is a good thig yes. It's here on page seven.
>
>>> If you are a self-aware person, and other-aware, and honest, then
>>> eventually you will develop a conscience, or face the consequences (i.e.
>>> you become that much less honest, less aware, less compassionate.)
>>
>> :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
>>
>> and this is a 'good' thing?
>> _______________________________________________
>> Gathering mailing list
>> Gathering at misera.net
>> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
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>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From hollytree1961 at hotmail.com  Mon Nov  3 15:33:25 2008
From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com (melinda grant)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 20:33:25 +0000
Subject: [kj] OT: LORDS OF THE NEW CHURCH
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	<490D2DCF.8020006@sbcglobal.net>
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no that went straight over my head--dont get that at all ;)> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 04:21:12 +1300> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: LORDS OF THE NEW CHURCH> > Cracker of an opportunity to set up a vitamin D stall as well ;)> > >> > its actually the 2nd nov ;D have you tried a punk or goth music> > convention also known as a fair? we have alot of these in uk about every> > week in london where you can get hold of rare music items,long> > players-bootlegs audio n dvd-photos- well memorabilia really or how about> > ebay? or why dont you advertise what your looking for in a punk/goth> > mag,there must be someone who has just what your looking for to either> > swop or sell to you ;),good luck> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 23:34:23 -0500>> > From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re:> > [kj] OT: LORDS OF THE NEW CHURCH> > Well, since today, Nov. 1, is actually> > SAMHAIN, it seemed apropos to > post some Samhain music.> > I still think> > Samhain's last (and best) LP, _November-Coming-Fire_ has a > lot of> > seeming Killing Joke influence.> > Also, probably a lot of KJ fans have an> > interest in horror punk-type > groups like The Damned and the (original)> > Misfits. It's still weird and > cool to me that The Damned and The Misfits> > toured together. Would love > to find any live recordings from those> > shows. As far as I know, no > PHOTOS, much less AUDIO, exists from the> > legendary Damned/Misfits tour > of England from '79/'80. All I know that> > came of it is The Misfits song > "London Dungeon."> > -Oliver> > > >> > melinda grant wrote:> > thanks for the education i think i may try and get> > hold of the c.d > > now i am going to try and sleep ;D cheers for those> > lyrics--for > > bothering to post them up-all hard of hearing on the list> > will > > appreciate lol !!> >> >> > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list>> > Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering> > _________________________________________________________________> > Catch up on all the latest celebrity gossip> > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/115454061/direct/01/_______________________________________________> > Gathering mailing list> > Gathering at misera.net> > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering> >> > > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
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From hollytree1961 at hotmail.com  Mon Nov  3 15:38:37 2008
From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com (melinda grant)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 20:38:37 +0000
Subject: [kj] OT: LORDS OF THE NEW CHURCH
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not as boring as --the cult and sisters of mercy--my god saw them twice just to make sure and yes,they were awful-none of those  goth bands just carnt kid ass like---bauhaus--who to this day,still sound new ;)> From: partyslammer at socal.rr.com> To: gathering at misera.net> Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 08:59:40 -0800> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: LORDS OF THE NEW CHURCH> > "Sarah's Putrefying Kunt" wrote:> > > > Lords of the New Church were one of the most boring bands I've ever seen > > back in the eighties at Salisbury Arse Centre.> > I dunno. I caught dozens of shows and I'd say I probably saw one or two > real clunkers. One that sticks in my head was around '86 in a small club > were about 20 people showed up and everyone in the band was sick (or > hungover) and by about the 3rd song, Stiv started taking requests and they > played a handful of sloppy 60's garage band covers like "Route 66" and > "Peter Gunn." Although the show ended on an inspired up note when they > played a long, off-the-cuff mashup of "New Church" and The Door's "The End."> > T.B. > > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
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From hollytree1961 at hotmail.com  Mon Nov  3 15:57:29 2008
From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com (melinda grant)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 20:57:29 +0000
Subject: [kj] Arse Tax
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 wow amaizing-- fats i need a stiff drink and a lie down after reading that lol ;D)))> From: fatpotanga at gmail.com> To: gathering at misera.net> Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 18:44:32 +0000> Subject: Re: [kj] Arse Tax> > > Absolutely!> Morality is subjective.> Subjectivity is objective (but not in a rational scheme of perception)> But then, perception is irrational as it implies immanence.> The judgement of any system of phenomena exists in any rational, > metaphysical or epistemological contradiction to an abstracted > empirical concept such as being, or to be, or to occur in the thing > itself, or of the thing itself. Which I'm sure is something we've all > said many times.> In short, moral notions imply attributes to substances which exist > only in relational duality but not as an essential extension of > ontological existence.> > > ---> http://www.iamscuzzy.com - go there. it's nice.> > <?(((>< ~ only dead fish go with the flow> > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
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From jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk  Mon Nov  3 17:39:35 2008
From: jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk (jo)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 22:39:35 -0000
Subject: [kj] Arse Tax
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Not in your condition Mel:-)
How is your pregnancy coming along?




 wow amaizing-- fats i need a stiff drink and a lie down after reading that 
lol ;D)))



From saulomar1 at yahoo.com  Mon Nov  3 19:10:26 2008
From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com (sade1)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 16:10:26 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [kj] Bonzo Goes to Hell
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If you turn?Mayan you'll 
have to do it like** this guy: http://news.bmezine.com/wp-content/uploads/200702021507-pix1.jpg
Good luck.


**yep, he's doing it 
??? with a sea urchin spine





... ... ... ... ... ... 

[looking at the current?state of things..]
?
'Save me...
? save me?from Tomorrow..
??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? 





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From: folk devil <folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com>
To: gathering at misera.net
Sent: Monday, November 3, 2008 10:32:58 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] Bonzo Goes to Hell

Absolutely! But, if McCain gets in...I'm turning Mayan ;)


"

> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 07:28:57 +1300
> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz
> To: gathering at misera.net
> Subject: Re: [kj] Bonzo Goes to Hell
> 
> Whatever happens I'll raise a toast that Bush is gone, thank Dog for small
> mercies. What a disgrace, I hope history treats him with the contempt he
> deserves.
> 
> >
> > He hasn't 'won' yet.
> >
> > "> Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 12:19:57 +0000> From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk>
> > To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: [kj] Bonzo Goes to Hell> > 'I should
> > add that when Johnny stated ?God Bless George Bush' at the 2002 Rock&Roll
> > Hall of Fame awards, I realize now that he was on to something. Because if
> > it were not for George Bush and his handling of our country the past 8
> > years, I doubt so many Americans, including so many highly regarded
> > Republicans, would now be getting behind Barack Obama. So, yes, thank God
> > for George Bush for paving the way to Obama.'> > > ~ ~ Mickey Leigh> >
> > _________________________________________________________________
> >


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From hollytree1961 at hotmail.com  Mon Nov  3 19:50:31 2008
From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com (melinda grant)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 00:50:31 +0000
Subject: [kj] Bonzo Goes to Hell
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some of my ancestors are mayan ;D so proud of that fact ;) i forgive them of there primative exsplorations they believed in one love and all by the looks of the sculpture ;) and really whats wrong with that! i guess we have to be a little open minded and understanding of others ways ;P

Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 16:10:26 -0800From: saulomar1 at yahoo.comTo: gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] Bonzo Goes to Hell




If you turn Mayan you'll 
have to do it like** this guy: http://news.bmezine.com/wp-content/uploads/200702021507-pix1.jpgGood luck.
 
 
**yep, he's doing it 
    with a sea urchin spine
 
 
 
 
 
... ... ... ... ... ... 
[looking at the current state of things..]
 
'Save me...
  save me from Tomorrow..
    I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'   
 




From: folk devil <folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com>To: gathering at misera.netSent: Monday, November 3, 2008 10:32:58 AMSubject: Re: [kj] Bonzo Goes to Hell

Absolutely! But, if McCain gets in...I'm turning Mayan ;)"> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 07:28:57 +1300> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re: [kj] Bonzo Goes to Hell> > Whatever happens I'll raise a toast that Bush is gone, thank Dog for small> mercies. What a disgrace, I hope history treats him with the contempt he> deserves.> > >> > He hasn't 'won' yet.> >> > "> Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 12:19:57 +0000> From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk>> > To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: [kj] Bonzo Goes to Hell> > 'I should> > add that when Johnny stated ?God Bless George Bush' at the 2002 Rock&Roll> > Hall of Fame awards, I realize now that he was on to something. Because if> > it were not for George Bush and his handling of our country the past 8> > years, I doubt so many Americans, including so many highly regarded> > Republicans, would now be getting behind Barack Obama. So, yes, thank God> > for George Bush for paving the way to Obama.'> > > ~ ~ Mickey Leigh> >> > _________________________________________________________________> >

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From vassifer at earthlink.net  Mon Nov  3 19:54:56 2008
From: vassifer at earthlink.net (Alexander Smith)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 19:54:56 -0500
Subject: [kj]  Plasticheadbutted
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So, a little while after I crossed the perilous rubicon of 41, I  
decided to splurge and pick up both the DUENDES disc ORIGINAL  
UNPERVERTED PANTOMIME CD/DVD via Plastichead. Sure, a bit more  
expensive than I'd prefer, but I work hard for my fucking money, and  
it's been a shit year and I'll take my fleeting, few remaining  
pleasures where I can find them. Few things bring me as much joy as  
Killing Joke, so I feel no guilt. I placed my online order with  
Plastichead and eagerly awaited their arrival.

Today, a bulky package sat waiting for me in my mailbox. When I  
brought it upstairs, I hungrily ripped it open to find a lovingly  
packaged pair of discs containing THE ORIGINAL UNPERVERTED PANTOMIME  
and.....


.......



..........


...............


THE COURTAULD TALKS!




::::crickets:::


Fuck Plastichead.


Alex in NYC

From fluwdot at earthlink.net  Mon Nov  3 19:58:15 2008
From: fluwdot at earthlink.net (fluw)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 19:58:15 -0500
Subject: [kj] Plasticheadbutted
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Ha the courtauld talks is a classic piece of shit, enjoy!
Remember geordie's riff alters twice during the talk so listen carefully for
the subtle shift in notes!! haha

-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Alexander Smith
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 7:55 PM
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: [kj] Plasticheadbutted


So, a little while after I crossed the perilous rubicon of 41, I  
decided to splurge and pick up both the DUENDES disc ORIGINAL  
UNPERVERTED PANTOMIME CD/DVD via Plastichead. Sure, a bit more  
expensive than I'd prefer, but I work hard for my fucking money, and  
it's been a shit year and I'll take my fleeting, few remaining  
pleasures where I can find them. Few things bring me as much joy as  
Killing Joke, so I feel no guilt. I placed my online order with  
Plastichead and eagerly awaited their arrival.

Today, a bulky package sat waiting for me in my mailbox. When I  
brought it upstairs, I hungrily ripped it open to find a lovingly  
packaged pair of discs containing THE ORIGINAL UNPERVERTED PANTOMIME  
and.....


.......



..........


...............


THE COURTAULD TALKS!




::::crickets:::


Fuck Plastichead.


Alex in NYC
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From hollytree1961 at hotmail.com  Mon Nov  3 19:58:27 2008
From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com (melinda grant)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 00:58:27 +0000
Subject: [kj] Plasticheadbutted
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perhaps they were trying to think--gems of power ;) sorry that you did not recieve all that you ordered thats not on is it ;(> From: vassifer at earthlink.net> To: gathering at misera.net> Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 19:54:56 -0500> Subject: [kj] Plasticheadbutted> > > So, a little while after I crossed the perilous rubicon of 41, I > decided to splurge and pick up both the DUENDES disc ORIGINAL > UNPERVERTED PANTOMIME CD/DVD via Plastichead. Sure, a bit more > expensive than I'd prefer, but I work hard for my fucking money, and > it's been a shit year and I'll take my fleeting, few remaining > pleasures where I can find them. Few things bring me as much joy as > Killing Joke, so I feel no guilt. I placed my online order with > Plastichead and eagerly awaited their arrival.> > Today, a bulky package sat waiting for me in my mailbox. When I > brought it upstairs, I hungrily ripped it open to find a lovingly > packaged pair of discs containing THE ORIGINAL UNPERVERTED PANTOMIME > and.....> > > .......> > > > ..........> > > ...............> > > THE COURTAULD TALKS!> > > > > ::::crickets:::> > > Fuck Plastichead.> > > Alex in NYC> _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
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From vassifer at earthlink.net  Mon Nov  3 20:06:39 2008
From: vassifer at earthlink.net (Alexander Smith)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 20:06:39 -0500
Subject: [kj] Plasticheadbutted
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See, though, here's the thing:   I ALREADY OWNED IT.

Alex in NYC


On Nov 3, 2008, at 7:58 PM, fluw wrote:

> Ha the courtauld talks is a classic piece of shit, enjoy!
> Remember geordie's riff alters twice during the talk so listen  
> carefully for
> the subtle shift in notes!! haha
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net 
> ] On
> Behalf Of Alexander Smith
> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 7:55 PM
> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
> Subject: [kj] Plasticheadbutted
>
>
> So, a little while after I crossed the perilous rubicon of 41, I
> decided to splurge and pick up both the DUENDES disc ORIGINAL
> UNPERVERTED PANTOMIME CD/DVD via Plastichead. Sure, a bit more
> expensive than I'd prefer, but I work hard for my fucking money, and
> it's been a shit year and I'll take my fleeting, few remaining
> pleasures where I can find them. Few things bring me as much joy as
> Killing Joke, so I feel no guilt. I placed my online order with
> Plastichead and eagerly awaited their arrival.
>
> Today, a bulky package sat waiting for me in my mailbox. When I
> brought it upstairs, I hungrily ripped it open to find a lovingly
> packaged pair of discs containing THE ORIGINAL UNPERVERTED PANTOMIME
> and.....
>
>
> .......
>
>
>
> ..........
>
>
> ...............
>
>
> THE COURTAULD TALKS!
>
>
>
>
> ::::crickets:::
>
>
> Fuck Plastichead.
>
>
> Alex in NYC
> _______________________________________________
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From folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com  Mon Nov  3 20:12:09 2008
From: folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com (folk devil)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 17:12:09 -0800
Subject: [kj] Bonzo Goes to Hell
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a sea urchin..?
is the guy bottom left laughing because of the sea urchin, or his 'size'?

hmm, i need another culture's doomsday...




Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 16:10:26 -0800
From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] Bonzo Goes to Hell



If you turn Mayan you'll 
have to do it like** this guy: http://news.bmezine.com/wp-content/uploads/200702021507-pix1.jpg
Good luck.
 
 
**yep, he's doing it 
    with a sea urchin spine
 
 
 
 
 
... ... ... ... ... ... 

[looking at the current state of things..]
 
'Save me...
  save me from Tomorrow..
    I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'   
 






From: folk devil <folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com>
To: gathering at misera.net
Sent: Monday, November 3, 2008 10:32:58 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] Bonzo Goes to Hell



Absolutely! But, if McCain gets in...I'm turning Mayan ;)


"

> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 07:28:57 +1300
> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz
> To: gathering at misera.net
> Subject: Re: [kj] Bonzo Goes to Hell
> 
> Whatever happens I'll raise a toast that Bush is gone, thank Dog for small
> mercies. What a disgrace, I hope history treats him with the contempt he
> deserves.
> 
> >
> > He hasn't 'won' yet.
> >
> > "> Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 12:19:57 +0000> From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk>
> > To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: [kj] Bonzo Goes to Hell> > 'I should
> > add that when Johnny stated ?God Bless George Bush' at the 2002 Rock&Roll
> > Hall of Fame awards, I realize now that he was on to something. Because if
> > it were not for George Bush and
 his handling of our country the past 8
> > years, I doubt so many Americans, including so many highly regarded
> > Republicans, would now be getting behind Barack Obama. So, yes, thank God
> > for George Bush for paving the way to Obama.'> > > ~ ~ Mickey Leigh> >
> > _________________________________________________________________
> >




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From fluwdot at earthlink.net  Mon Nov  3 20:09:16 2008
From: fluwdot at earthlink.net (fluw)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 20:09:16 -0500
Subject: [kj] Plasticheadbutted
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I know, but now you can enjoy a freshy!

Mm I bet it smells purty

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Alexander Smith
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 8:07 PM
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] Plasticheadbutted


See, though, here's the thing:   I ALREADY OWNED IT.

Alex in NYC


On Nov 3, 2008, at 7:58 PM, fluw wrote:

> Ha the courtauld talks is a classic piece of shit, enjoy!
> Remember geordie's riff alters twice during the talk so listen  
> carefully for
> the subtle shift in notes!! haha
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net 
> ] On
> Behalf Of Alexander Smith
> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 7:55 PM
> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
> Subject: [kj] Plasticheadbutted
>
>
> So, a little while after I crossed the perilous rubicon of 41, I
> decided to splurge and pick up both the DUENDES disc ORIGINAL
> UNPERVERTED PANTOMIME CD/DVD via Plastichead. Sure, a bit more
> expensive than I'd prefer, but I work hard for my fucking money, and
> it's been a shit year and I'll take my fleeting, few remaining
> pleasures where I can find them. Few things bring me as much joy as
> Killing Joke, so I feel no guilt. I placed my online order with
> Plastichead and eagerly awaited their arrival.
>
> Today, a bulky package sat waiting for me in my mailbox. When I
> brought it upstairs, I hungrily ripped it open to find a lovingly
> packaged pair of discs containing THE ORIGINAL UNPERVERTED PANTOMIME
> and.....
>
>
> .......
>
>
>
> ..........
>
>
> ...............
>
>
> THE COURTAULD TALKS!
>
>
>
>
> ::::crickets:::
>
>
> Fuck Plastichead.
>
>
> Alex in NYC
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From karen.weil at sddt.com  Mon Nov  3 20:53:05 2008
From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 17:53:05 -0800
Subject: [kj] Dutch
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Message-ID: <910304A5CB534E8EBE1D0F1B5CD2DABD@edweil>

Hey, it's a free country. Get riled up all you like!
: )

Cheers,

k.w.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sarah's Putrefying Kunt" <crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk>
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
<gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 6:44 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] Dutch


> Why the hell should I
> "settle down" ???
>
> RTX, Kristin Hersh, Githead, Shellac, Michael Gira,
> The Dirty Three & Genesis P-Orridge
> interviewed here:
> http://www.perfectsoundforever.com
>
> Republicans Out Forever!
>
>
> --- On Wed, 29/10/08, ade <ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> From: ade <ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk>
>> Subject: Re: [kj] Dutch
>> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
>> <gathering at misera.net>
>> Date: Wednesday, 29 October, 2008, 9:43 PM
>> Maybe the need to categorise is a by-product of how our
>> brains work?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
>> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of folk devil
>> Sent: 29 October 2008 17:29
>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
>> Subject: Re: [kj] Dutch
>>
>>
>> Nationality is a myth.
>> It just keeps you neat and tidy in your box, even when it
>> cannot represent every Culture contained inside.
>>
>>
>> ""
>>
>> > From: karen.weil at sddt.com
>> > To: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk; gathering at misera.net
>> > Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 10:10:34 -0700
>> > Subject: Re: [kj] Dutch
>> >
>> > OK, Change: Settle down. I say it only in a general
>> sense. And guess what? I
>> > actually think that about *most* people -- regardless
>> of nationality, etc.
>> >
>> > Respectfully,
>> >
>> > k.w.
>> > (open-minded American)
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: "Change"
>> <crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk>
>> > To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the
>> band!)"
>> > <gathering at misera.net>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 6:46 AM
>> > Subject: [kj] Dutch
>> >
>> >
>> > > ALL the Dutch are good people?
>> > >
>> > > That seems a simplisitic view...
>> > >
>> > >> From: karen.weil at sddt.comTo:
>> gathering at misera.netDate: Tue,
>> > >> 28 Oct 2008 10:27:45 -0700Subject: Re: [kj]
>> Nice Streets
>> > >> Below: How We Wait in Europe
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> Dank u wel for your input, Jerry. The Dutch
>> are good people
>> > >> (but sorry about your one experience there!)
>> And I
>> > >> couldn't agree with you about judging an
>> entire
>> > >> group/city/nation, etc. based on the actions
>> of a few jerks.
>> > >> It only leads to no good.
>> > >>
>> > >> Anyway, tot ziens!
>> > >>
>> > >> k.w.
>> > >>
>> > >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > >> From: jerry bodkin
>> > >> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the
>> band!)
>> > >> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 12:48 AM
>> > >> Subject: Re: [kj] Nice Streets Below: How We
>> Wait in Europe
>> > >> Holland is a lovely country and the Dutch are
>> a lovely
>> > >> people, ive been there several times
>> including once for just
>> > >> 12 hours(10 of them in a police cell) but
>> we'll leave
>> > >> that there! France too is a beautiful
>> beautiful place and
>> > >> the people there too are lovely once you make
>> an effort with
>> > >> them. i.e. try at least to speak the
>> language. Give me
>> > >> Europe any day. Too often we judge an entire
>> race on
>> > >> individual behaviour, my God, what must most
>> of the world
>> > >> think of us English. Jelala.
>> > >>
>> > >> > From: karen.weil at sddt.com> To:
>> > >> crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk;
>> gathering at misera.net> Date:
>> > >> Mon, 27 Oct 2008 11:51:50 -0700> Subject:
>> Re: [kj] Nice
>> > >> Streets Below: How We Wait in Europe> >
>> Hi,
>> > >> Change:> > Appreciate your thoughts on
>> Belgium;
>> > >> it's a fine place. Germany also offers
>> > so much, and
>> > >> has a very strong avant-guarde scene.>
>> However, I have to
>> > >> take issue with your comments about the Dutch
>> and >
>> > >> Europe. If anything, the Dutch have a totally
>> different
>> > >> attitude when it > comes to languages;
>> that's why so
>> > >> many of them speak three or four of them.
>> > Whatever
>> > >> differences they may have with their European
>> neighbors; I
>> > >> really > don't think the English issue
>> plays a great
>> > >> role.> And while Paris is outrageously
>> expensive (I was
>> > >> there in May; and believe > me, it was no
>> fun coming from
>> > >> a country where the currency is in the >
>> toilet!), I
>> > >> really can't agree with your observations
>> about the
>> > >> French, > either. (Although I will concur
>> about their
>> > >> love of Wire!)> But at any rate, enjoy
>> travelling -- veel
>> > >> plezier, as the Dutch say!> >
>> Groetjes,> >
>> > >> k.w.> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From:
>> > >> "Change"
>> <crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk>>
>> > >> To: "A list about all things Killing
>> Joke (the
>> > >> band!)" >
>> <gathering at misera.net>> Sent:
>> > >> Wednesday, October 15, 2008 5:53 AM>
>> Subject: [kj] Nice
>> > >> Streets Below: How We Wait in Europe> >
>> > > How
>> > >> nice it was to escape this ever more petty
>> joke of a nation,
>> > >> occupied > > as it has been by the USA
>> since WW2. If
>> > >> you want to get away from this > >
>> rotten island then
>> > >> a great place to go is Belgium. Its not too
>> far by > >
>> > >> coach through the tunnel. Brussels is
>> beautiful. The streets
>> > >> smell of > > coffee and chocolate, the
>> people are
>> > >> jolly and kind and there is great art >
>> > everywhere.
>> > >> No wonder Colin and Malka made it their home.
>> There are also
>> > >> > > lots of Belgians with little noses
>> straight out of
>> > >> a Tintin book. The food > > and beer
>> are amazing. I
>> > >> thought Brussels was wonderful but then I
>> made it > >
>> > >> to Ghent and was pretty damn glad the trams
>> had been aborted
>> > >> by a flower > > festival because I
>> walked along the
>> > >> canal to get back to the station and >
>> > realised that
>> > >> this is architecturally the most beautiful
>> city I have seen.
>> > >> > > I haven't made it to Prague yet
>> though!
>> > >> Antwerp looks like a low rent > >
>> Barcelona copy, in
>> > >> the same way Manchester tries to be European
>> but always >
>> > >> > ends up looking like> > a
>> post-industrial dump.
>> > >> Tilberg is very boxy but the people were
>> partying > >
>> > >> hard and late and the Dutch all seem to think
>> the rest of
>> > >> Europe is crap > > just because they
>> don't all
>> > >> speak perfect English! "Those crazy
>> Dutch!" >
>> > >> > said Lewis but I can't remember why.
>> Maybe it was
>> > >> something to do with the > > hotel WIRE
>> rejected in
>> > >> Tilburg. Margaret the guitarist said it was
>> so > >
>> > >> grotty she didn't even want to put her
>> bag down in it
>> > >> let alone sleep in > > it!> >>
>> > Berlin is
>> > >> a great place to explore, full of impressive
>> sites and large
>> > >> > > enough to spend years there I'd
>> warrant.
>> > >> Tiergarten is the largest and > > most
>> lovely park
>> > >> I've ever strolled through. German venues
>> also make a
>> > >> > > mockery of British ones in terms of
>> the sound.>
>> > >> >> > Strasbourg has a fine market
>> where I found a
>> > >> sabre for a mere twenty > > euros, a
>> light sabre for
>> > >> two euros and a tiny plastic Obelix for
>> twenty > >
>> > >> cents. Lewis loves the trams, but the modern
>> art gallery,
>> > >> watched over by > > one of
>> Lovecraft's Forgotten
>> > >> Ones, is even better. I spent too long there
>> > > so
>> > >> got to Paris 23 minutes too late. My Cologne
>> friend Dirk
>> > >> from the > > Gathering reckons
>> Strasbourg is cool
>> > >> because of the huge German influence. >
>> > Cancel your
>> > >> order, crossing the border, changing the
>> menu!> >>
>> > >> > The Eyefull tower is good for a stroll
>> but Paris is
>> > >> full of too many slow > > people and
>> the prices are
>> > >> obscene. Jus d'orange? Mai non je pense
>> que je > >
>> > >> WAIT until ich gehe zu Belqigue! Paris hotels
>> are the worst.
>> > >> Unlike > > Germany and Belgium, the
>> beer is worse than
>> > >> Britain. French computer > > keyboards
>> were designed
>> > >> by a retard and the showers go some way to
>> > >
>> > >> explaining why the English have often mocked
>> the French for
>> > >> being > > hygenically challenged. The
>> redeeming
>> > >> feature of the French is that many > >
>> of them seem to
>> > >> really love WIRE and gave the most
>> enthusiastic response
>> > >> > > of any crowds on this tour.>
>> >> >
>> > >> Anyway this was the route of my rail and road
>> trip:>
>> > >> >> > I arrived in beautiful Brussels
>> in the middle
>> > >> of some kind of medieval > > WARDANCE
>> pageant. I had
>> > >> time to visit the city's most mainstream
>> record >
>> > >> > store just opposite Ancienne Belquique
>> which Killing
>> > >> Joke would conquer by > > and by. I was
>> rewarded by
>> > >> finding a copy of one of the few PJ HARVEY
>> > > singles
>> > >> I didn't yet possess, 'A PLACE CALLED
>> HOME.'>
>> > >> >> > After a couple of hours I
>> caught the train to
>> > >> gorgeous Ghent for the WIRE > > gig at
>> Democrazy.>
>> > >> >> > Next day I took trains via
>> Antwerp and a bus
>> > >> NORTH OF THE BORDER to > > Tilburg just
>> in time to
>> > >> catch the seismic riffin' PELICAN and
>> Dutch > >
>> > >> hardcore heroes SEEIN' RED before WIRE
>> blasted off at
>> > >> around 7pm. Later I > > was also
>> entertained by the
>> > >> double breasted PRE and a Satanic black metal
>> > > band
>> > >> who gave the crowd the finger for watching
>> them, all of
>> > >> which was > > unexpected.> >>
>> > On
>> > >> returning to Brussels I witnessed a lovely
>> WIRE gig at La
>> > >> Botanique, a > > venue which could
>> verily call itself
>> > >> NICE STREETS ABOVE if it so desired. >
>> > I struck up
>> > >> conversation with a charming photographer and
>> graphic
>> > >> designer > > called Violette who sent
>> me eight great
>> > >> photos of WIRE from the gig.> >>
>> > After the gig
>> > >> I had to START TO MOVE pretty sharp and
>> jumped on the night
>> > >> > > train where I was entertained by
>> conversation with
>> > >> a former theatre > > director who had
>> just aborted a
>> > >> trip to Turkey. He recommended a trip to >
>> >
>> > >> Tiergarten which proved very good advice. My
>> first police
>> > >> encounter was > > with two cops on the
>> Ostbahnhof
>> > >> platform who took a rather long time >
>> > checking to
>> > >> find out if Interpol have a warrant out on me
>> for listening
>> > >> to > > music in my living room. Berlin
>> is also very
>> > >> cool and well worth a visit > > in its
>> own right, but
>> > >> smells worse than Brussels.> >> >
>> The first
>> > >> night was free before the arrival of KILLING
>> JOKE so I
>> > >> checked > > out the SO36 venue where
>> they and WIRE
>> > >> played, which was immortalised in a > >
>> song on the
>> > >> first KILLING JOKE album. The sound was
>> excellent as are all
>> > >> > > other German venues I've ever
>> been to. The
>> > >> soundman played KILLING JOKE > > before
>> the headline
>> > >> act, a comedy punk trio who weren't very
>> funny but >
>> > >> > probably liked DEVO. We talked after the
>> gig and I run
>> > >> into him again at > > the KILLING JOKE
>> gigs.>
>> > >> >> > After the amazing KILLING JOKE
>> regeneration in
>> > >> Berlin, with Big Paul's > > drum
>> kit illuminated
>> > >> and smoking ritualistically, I planned to
>> head to > >
>> > >> Paris to see them there. The train times were
>> TOO LATE so at
>> > >> the last > > minute I rerouted to
>> Strasbourg for more
>> > >> WIRE and this proved a wise > > choice
>> as the COMET
>> > >> hit very late and I caught the whole set in
>> front of a >
>> > >> > very young and enthusiastic crowd at a
>> festival that
>> > >> went on until 6am. > > Next day my
>> second run in with
>> > >> cops was with two French transport police
>> > > who ask
>> > >> me to wrap up my sword so that it
>> couldn't be seen
>> > >> before I caught > > the train.>
>> >> > Paris
>> > >> next for more WIRE, on a first class train
>> where I started
>> > >> downing > > some of the left over
>> Heineken from last
>> > >> night's rider and upset a French >
>> > idiot who had
>> > >> a tantrum because I couldn't stop
>> belching even when she
>> > >> > > kicked my chair. She complained to
>> the guard and
>> > >> he clearly thought it was > > a bit
>> silly having to
>> > >> ask me not to belch when I couldn't help
>> it. In the >
>> > >> > end she started complaining I was
>> playing the BUTTHOLE
>> > >> SURFERS too loud on > > my headphones
>> and he came
>> > >> back, again embarrassed, to ask me to turn it
>> > >
>> > >> down. Then she had a stroke of genius and
>> moved to another
>> > >> seat. Perhaps > > its a good job the
>> sword was
>> > >> wrapped!> > If you ever feel like going
>> to Paris my
>> > >> advice is don't bother. Go in a > >
>> cafe that
>> > >> advertises coffee for a Euro and they greasy
>> waiters will
>> > >> > > chearge you five.> >> >
>> It was nice to
>> > >> speed back to Belgium and Brussels which was
>> already >
>> > >> > seeming like a second home. I found many
>> cool CDs in
>> > >> the shops, including > > quite
>> appropriately
>> > >> COMMERCIAL SUICIDE. Being there for three
>> days I had >
>> > >> > plenty of time to explore and each day
>> surpassed the
>> > >> previous one. I met > > so many great
>> people in
>> > >> Belgium I felt like moving there!>
>> >> > My
>> > >> favourite songs to listen to on a speeding
>> train were>
>> > >> > KILLING JOKE - Pssyche> > WIRE -
>> Drill (DJ
>> > >> Fuckoff Version)> > oh dear the
>> moderate Craig
>> > >> won't like that will he?> > KILLING
>> JOKE -
>> > >> Timewave> > PJ HARVEY - Taut> >
>> EINSTURZENDE
>> > >> NEUBAUTEN - Haus Der Lauge> > BAND OF
>> SUSANS - Guitar
>> > >> Trio> > KILLING JOKE - Empire Song>
>> > WIRE -
>> > >> Germ Ship> > WIRE - Spent> >
>> BUTTHOLE SURFERS -
>> > >> Who was in my room last night?> >>
>> > Back home
>> > >> after another awesome double dose of the
>> mighty JOKE I had a
>> > >> day > > of rest and didn't even
>> have time enough
>> > >> to notice what a terminal dump > >
>> Manchester is
>> > >> because the MELVINS wheeled in to rock the
>> town and give me
>> > >> > > a chance to catch up with lots of
>> old friends.
>> > >> That is the great thing > > about
>> Manchester, lots of
>> > >> good gigs.> >> > Next day I was
>> off again to
>> > >> London for the KILLING JOKE homecoming and as
>> > >
>> > >> chaotic synchronicity would have it, THALIA
>> ZEDEK and her
>> > >> band began their > > tour the very next
>> day. She's
>> > >> a brilliant intense songwriter. Check her
>> > > out
>> > >> while you still can...> >> >
>> > >> www.myspace.com/thaliazedek> >> >
>> Her tour ends
>> > >> on October 23 at La Botanique in
>> Brussels!> >> >
>> > >> I went to all the THALIA ZEDEK BAND gigs in
>> England and
>> > >> after the best one > > at Hull Adelphi
>> I had to zoom
>> > >> down to Cheam in Surrey for my younger >
>> >
>> > >> sister's wedding. The lavish reception
>> was held on a
>> > >> Territorial Army base > > but my uncles
>> and I resisted
>> > >> the temptation to hijack a tank. One thing I
>> > > gave
>> > >> her was a copy of 'UH HUH HER' by PJ
>> HARVEY as
>> > >> "The Desperate Kingdom > > of
>> Love"
>> > >> couldn't really be a better song to wish
>> for a long
>> > >> loving > > marriage, at the end of this
>> burning
>> > >> world.> >> > Then I went home to
>> transcribe
>> > >> interesting interviews with MAGAZINE and >
>> > WIRE,
>> > >> blow up some more stereo speakers, and wait
>> for civilization
>> > >> to fall > > in its grave.> >>
>> >
>> > >> ACCELERATE> > ACCELERATE> >>
>> >>
>> > >> >> >> >> >> >
>> > >>
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From saulomar1 at yahoo.com  Mon Nov  3 23:33:52 2008
From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com (sade1)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 20:33:52 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [kj] Bonzo Goes to Hell
References: <B74A1FBF4AA04EFF8161D9FA0CCEFCBC@osadm.net>
	<66705.22714.qm@web23208.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
	<BAY107-W9B921ABDD8827E80762A5ED1D0@phx.gbl>
	<42084.203.210.68.145.1225736937.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz>
	<BAY107-W3258A5A27E8F2B909AD51CED1D0@phx.gbl>
	<123404.92115.qm@web52611.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<BLU120-W39045D4BD263A9520C00AB81C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <119589.73310.qm@web52605.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

> some of my ancestors are mayan.. 

..so are mine (mayan Pipil clans of central america) but.. he's putting a quill thru his d!ck!? *knees closing* 
Call me old fashioned, but, I don't know, it looks a bit much.

> and really whats wrong with that! i guess we have to be 
> a little open minded and understanding of others ways 

It's a 1-foot quill! 


... ... ... ... ... ... 

[looking at the current?state of things..]
?
'Save me...
? save me?from Tomorrow..
??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? 





________________________________
From: melinda grant <hollytree1961 at hotmail.com>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Monday, November 3, 2008 4:50:31 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] Bonzo Goes to Hell

some of my ancestors are mayan ;D so proud of that fact ;) i forgive them of there primative exsplorations they believed in one love and all by the looks of the sculpture ;) and really whats wrong with that! i guess we have to be a little open minded and understanding of others ways ;P

________________________________
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 16:10:26 -0800
From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] Bonzo Goes to Hell


If you turn?Mayan you'll 
have to do it like** this guy: http://news.bmezine.com/wp-content/uploads/200702021507-pix1.jpg
Good luck.


**yep, he's doing it 
??? with a sea urchin spine





... ... ... ... ... ... 

[looking at the current?state of things..]
?
'Save me...
? save me?from Tomorrow..
??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? 





________________________________
From: folk devil <folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com>
To: gathering at misera.net
Sent: Monday, November 3, 2008 10:32:58 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] Bonzo Goes to Hell

Absolutely! But, if McCain gets in...I'm turning Mayan ;)


"

> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 07:28:57 +1300
> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz
> To: gathering at misera.net
> Subject: Re: [kj] Bonzo Goes to Hell
> 
> Whatever happens I'll raise a toast that Bush is gone, thank Dog for small
> mercies. What a disgrace, I hope history treats him with the contempt he
> deserves.
> 
> >
> > He hasn't 'won' yet.
> >
> > "> Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 12:19:57 +0000> From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk>
> > To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: [kj] Bonzo Goes to Hell> > 'I should
> > add that when Johnny stated ?God Bless George Bush' at the 2002 Rock&Roll
> > Hall of Fame awards, I realize now that he was on to something. Because if
> > it were not for George Bush and his handling of our country the past 8
> > years, I doubt so many Americans, including so many highly regarded
> > Republicans, would now be getting behind Barack Obama. So, yes, thank God
> > for George Bush for paving the way to Obama.'> > > ~ ~ Mickey Leigh> >
> > _________________________________________________________________
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From cliffmonk at gmail.com  Mon Nov  3 23:35:10 2008
From: cliffmonk at gmail.com (Cliff Livingston)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 19:35:10 -0900
Subject: [kj] ot New Concentration AMPS Track
In-Reply-To: <512869.86928.qm@web23202.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
References: <13071bf00811030328u6467f437oafbc11bc7bd6de7f@mail.gmail.com>
	<512869.86928.qm@web23202.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
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thanks yo

On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 5:38 AM, Sarah's Putrefying Kunt <
crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> Reckon this would be a damn fine Killing Joke support slot...
>
> > progress and few mixes will be made.Have a free download
> > and a listen.Enjoy
> > CliffMonk
> >
> > http://www.myspace.com/concentrationamps
>
>
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From saulomar1 at yahoo.com  Mon Nov  3 23:44:21 2008
From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com (sade1)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 20:44:21 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [kj] Bonzo Goes to Hell
References: <B74A1FBF4AA04EFF8161D9FA0CCEFCBC@osadm.net>
	<66705.22714.qm@web23208.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
	<BAY107-W9B921ABDD8827E80762A5ED1D0@phx.gbl>
	<42084.203.210.68.145.1225736937.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz>
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> is the guy bottom left laughing because of the sea urchin, or his 'size'?

?? Maybe it was all a joke and the guy poking his brains out lost a bet. There is a?big 
letter J in the top left?corner of the?carving.
?
?? May I suggest the Buddhist apocalypse, where after all necessary reincarnations one simply 
ceases being and achieves oneness with the Great Oneness. Or something like that.? 

You have 4 years before the Mayan ending kicks in. 

... ... ... ... ... ... 

[looking at the current?state of things..]
?
'Save me...
? save me?from Tomorrow..
??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? 





________________________________
From: folk devil <folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com>
To: gathering at misera.net
Sent: Monday, November 3, 2008 5:12:09 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] Bonzo Goes to Hell

a sea urchin..?
is the guy bottom left laughing because of the sea urchin, or his 'size'?

hmm, i need another culture's doomsday...




________________________________
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 16:10:26 -0800
From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] Bonzo Goes to Hell


If you turn?Mayan you'll 
have to do it like** this guy: http://news.bmezine.com/wp-content/uploads/200702021507-pix1.jpg
Good luck.


**yep, he's doing it 
??? with a sea urchin spine





... ... ... ... ... ... 

[looking at the current?state of things..]
?
'Save me...
? save me?from Tomorrow..
??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? 





________________________________
From: folk devil <folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com>
To: gathering at misera.net
Sent: Monday, November 3, 2008 10:32:58 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] Bonzo Goes to Hell

Absolutely! But, if McCain gets in...I'm turning Mayan ;)


"

> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 07:28:57 +1300
> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz
> To: gathering at misera.net
> Subject: Re: [kj] Bonzo Goes to Hell
> 
> Whatever happens I'll raise a toast that Bush is gone, thank Dog for small
> mercies. What a disgrace, I hope history treats him with the contempt he
> deserves.
> 
> >
> > He hasn't 'won' yet.
> >
> > "> Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 12:19:57 +0000> From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk>
> > To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: [kj] Bonzo Goes to Hell> > 'I should
> > add that when Johnny stated ?God Bless George Bush' at the 2002 Rock&Roll
> > Hall of Fame awards, I realize now that he was on to something. Because if
> > it were not for George Bush and his handling of our country the past 8
> > years, I doubt so many Americans, including so many highly regarded
> > Republicans, would now be getting behind Barack Obama. So, yes, thank God
> > for George Bush for paving the way to Obama.'> > > ~ ~ Mickey Leigh> >
> > _________________________________________________________________
> >


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From dpeace at bigfoot.com  Tue Nov  4 05:50:18 2008
From: dpeace at bigfoot.com (Darren A. Peace)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 10:50:18 -0000
Subject: [kj] Plasticheadbutted
In-Reply-To: <8EDFA4D2-7691-4632-AC16-EF0ACCA822EB@earthlink.net>
References: <635090.8153.qm@web23203.mail.ird.yahoo.com>	<04e701c93ddd$77f68080$0100000a@jo>	<88BB47D7-0157-4440-998C-36D697564EEF@gmail.com>	<BLU120-W367C8B4EDF6DD800A974D7B81D0@phx.gbl>
	<8EDFA4D2-7691-4632-AC16-EF0ACCA822EB@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <007701c93e6b$213c9110$63b5b330$@com>

Ouch!

Plastichead have at least always shipped everything I've ordered, but there
have been a couple of times that they've gratuitously enclosed October File
CD singles and stickers, to my alarm. I've ordered a few things from
Invisible over the years too, and they always seem to add something or
other, like a pair of Atkins' soiled underwear. When Plastichead ship you
the correct CD, I'm afraid you'll not even be able to flog Courtald on ebay,
unless you want some really shit feedback.

Darren
Hungerford, UK

-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Alexander Smith
Sent: 04 November 2008 00:55
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: [kj] Plasticheadbutted


So, a little while after I crossed the perilous rubicon of 41, I  
decided to splurge and pick up both the DUENDES disc ORIGINAL  
UNPERVERTED PANTOMIME CD/DVD via Plastichead. Sure, a bit more  
expensive than I'd prefer, but I work hard for my fucking money, and  
it's been a shit year and I'll take my fleeting, few remaining  
pleasures where I can find them. Few things bring me as much joy as  
Killing Joke, so I feel no guilt. I placed my online order with  
Plastichead and eagerly awaited their arrival.

Today, a bulky package sat waiting for me in my mailbox. When I  
brought it upstairs, I hungrily ripped it open to find a lovingly  
packaged pair of discs containing THE ORIGINAL UNPERVERTED PANTOMIME  
and.....


.......



..........


...............


THE COURTAULD TALKS!




::::crickets:::


Fuck Plastichead.


Alex in NYC
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From Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk  Tue Nov  4 05:54:34 2008
From: Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk (Phillipps Marc)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 10:54:34 -0000
Subject: [kj] Plasticheadbutted
References: <635090.8153.qm@web23203.mail.ird.yahoo.com>	<04e701c93ddd$77f68080$0100000a@jo>	<88BB47D7-0157-4440-998C-36D697564EEF@gmail.com>	<BLU120-W367C8B4EDF6DD800A974D7B81D0@phx.gbl><8EDFA4D2-7691-4632-AC16-EF0ACCA822EB@earthlink.net>
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>you'll not even be able to flog Courtald on ebay

There is an international statute against that isn't there?
 
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From Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk  Tue Nov  4 07:07:57 2008
From: Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk (Phillipps Marc)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 12:07:57 -0000
Subject: [kj] (OT) The Official US Election Thread
Message-ID: <BD60B2A89D16094897629D4CCC50B1CB3A4820@ED01VN01.NCL-HIS.NHS.UK>

This is a site well worth keeping an eye on . . . 

 

http://blog.ourvotelive.org/

 

Some scary stuff on there already
 
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From vassifer at earthlink.net  Tue Nov  4 07:13:38 2008
From: vassifer at earthlink.net (Alexander Smith)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 07:13:38 -0500
Subject: [kj] Plasticheadbutted
In-Reply-To: <BD60B2A89D16094897629D4CCC50B1CB3A481D@ED01VN01.NCL-HIS.NHS.UK>
References: <635090.8153.qm@web23203.mail.ird.yahoo.com>	<04e701c93ddd$77f68080$0100000a@jo>	<88BB47D7-0157-4440-998C-36D697564EEF@gmail.com>	<BLU120-W367C8B4EDF6DD800A974D7B81D0@phx.gbl><8EDFA4D2-7691-4632-AC16-EF0ACCA822EB@earthlink.net>
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Message-ID: <1A4437B3-006E-43D1-9AB9-09B08BFE0640@earthlink.net>


It's true -- if it were ANY OTHER DISC in their catalog, I'd have a  
use for it. Hell, even OUTSIDE THE GATE would be easier to pass off to  
someone.

Ugh.

Alex in NYC


On Nov 4, 2008, at 5:54 AM, Phillipps Marc wrote:

>> you'll not even be able to flog Courtald on ebay
>
> There is an international statute against that isn't there?
>
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From killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com  Tue Nov  4 07:57:23 2008
From: killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com (The Exorcist)
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 07:57:23 -0500
Subject: [kj] Plasticheadbutted
In-Reply-To: <1A4437B3-006E-43D1-9AB9-09B08BFE0640@earthlink.net>
References: <635090.8153.qm@web23203.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
	<04e701c93ddd$77f68080$0100000a@jo>
	<88BB47D7-0157-4440-998C-36D697564EEF@gmail.com>
	<BLU120-W367C8B4EDF6DD800A974D7B81D0@phx.gbl>
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	<BD60B2A89D16094897629D4CCC50B1CB3A481D@ED01VN01.NCL-HIS.NHS.UK>
	<1A4437B3-006E-43D1-9AB9-09B08BFE0640@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <0K9T00G9J7ZR68H0@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>

Have you contacted them? I'd love to see the reply.
I've bought from them twice so far and it has been ok, but stuff like 
this makes me a tad leery.

When I purchased the "Live at the forum" discs I had one that was a 
bit scratched, I contaced them
and they send me a replacement disc right away. I guess some ppl. 
still know what customer service is about.

*shrug*

At 07:13 AM 11/4/2008, Alexander Smith wrote:

>It's true -- if it were ANY OTHER DISC in their catalog, I'd have a
>use for it. Hell, even OUTSIDE THE GATE would be easier to pass off to
>someone.
>
>Ugh.
>
>Alex in NYC
>
>
>On Nov 4, 2008, at 5:54 AM, Phillipps Marc wrote:
>
>>>you'll not even be able to flog Courtald on ebay
>>
>>There is an international statute against that isn't there?
>>
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From bq at soundgardener.co.nz  Tue Nov  4 09:33:31 2008
From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 03:33:31 +1300 (NZDT)
Subject: [kj] Plasticheadbutted
In-Reply-To: <2D61E6E4-DB41-4392-A29D-834B9E63AC64@earthlink.net>
References: <E1KxAFL-0003gh-Ag@elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<2D61E6E4-DB41-4392-A29D-834B9E63AC64@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <33682.203.185.215.144.1225809211.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz>

Perhaps the Elder Gods are trying to tell you something? Did you REALLY
listen to it before? Did it turn up at 11:11?

Sorry ;p

>
> See, though, here's the thing:   I ALREADY OWNED IT.
>
> Alex in NYC
>
>
> On Nov 3, 2008, at 7:58 PM, fluw wrote:
>
>> Ha the courtauld talks is a classic piece of shit, enjoy!
>> Remember geordie's riff alters twice during the talk so listen
>> carefully for
>> the subtle shift in notes!! haha
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net
>> ] On
>> Behalf Of Alexander Smith
>> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 7:55 PM
>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
>> Subject: [kj] Plasticheadbutted
>>
>>
>> So, a little while after I crossed the perilous rubicon of 41, I
>> decided to splurge and pick up both the DUENDES disc ORIGINAL
>> UNPERVERTED PANTOMIME CD/DVD via Plastichead. Sure, a bit more
>> expensive than I'd prefer, but I work hard for my fucking money, and
>> it's been a shit year and I'll take my fleeting, few remaining
>> pleasures where I can find them. Few things bring me as much joy as
>> Killing Joke, so I feel no guilt. I placed my online order with
>> Plastichead and eagerly awaited their arrival.
>>
>> Today, a bulky package sat waiting for me in my mailbox. When I
>> brought it upstairs, I hungrily ripped it open to find a lovingly
>> packaged pair of discs containing THE ORIGINAL UNPERVERTED PANTOMIME
>> and.....
>>
>>
>> .......
>>
>>
>>
>> ..........
>>
>>
>> ...............
>>
>>
>> THE COURTAULD TALKS!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ::::crickets:::
>>
>>
>> Fuck Plastichead.
>>
>>
>> Alex in NYC
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From crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk  Tue Nov  4 09:40:30 2008
From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk (Sarah's Putrefying Kunt)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:40:30 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [kj] 11:11
In-Reply-To: <33682.203.185.215.144.1225809211.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz>
Message-ID: <381179.93594.qm@web23207.mail.ird.yahoo.com>

11:11 is the title of the first COME album, one of the best albums in the universe.

11:11 Sun Ra Arkestra play Deaf Institute, Interzone

Proof USA ain't all bad - an old live tape of the Light The Sound FLIPPER live & L7 from Norwitch on a Broomstick

I am making a lifesize effigy of Mme Palin to immolate on 5:11
The universe laughs on my way here I found a bus ticket valid until
9:11

(butt off course)

RTX, Kristin Hersh, Githead, Shellac, Michael Gira, 
The Dirty Three & Genesis P-Orridge 
interviewed here:
http://www.perfectsoundforever.com

Republicans Out Forever!


--- On Tue, 4/11/08, Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> wrote:

> From: Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
> Subject: Re: [kj] Plasticheadbutted
> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
> Date: Tuesday, 4 November, 2008, 2:33 PM
> Perhaps the Elder Gods are trying to tell you something? Did
> you REALLY
> listen to it before? Did it turn up at 11:11?
> 
> Sorry ;p
> 
> >
> > See, though, here's the thing:   I ALREADY OWNED
> IT.
> >
> > Alex in NYC
> >
> >
> > On Nov 3, 2008, at 7:58 PM, fluw wrote:
> >
> >> Ha the courtauld talks is a classic 


      

From crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk  Tue Nov  4 09:42:13 2008
From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk (Sarah's Putrefying Kunt)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:42:13 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [kj] hey! asbo boy
In-Reply-To: <1646350c0811030708n7cb5828fx9fdb47a176d19bdf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <139583.89505.qm@web23208.mail.ird.yahoo.com>

I don't sell drugs you sad malicious old fart


Republicans Out Forever!


--- On Mon, 3/11/08, iPat <pmdavies at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: iPat <pmdavies at gmail.com>
> Subject: [kj] hey! asbo boy
> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
> Date: Monday, 3 November, 2008, 3:08 PM
> why dont you go and sell some more drugs to finance your
> trips around
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From bq at soundgardener.co.nz  Tue Nov  4 09:47:18 2008
From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 03:47:18 +1300 (NZDT)
Subject: [kj] Plasticheadbutted
In-Reply-To: <1A4437B3-006E-43D1-9AB9-09B08BFE0640@earthlink.net>
References: <635090.8153.qm@web23203.mail.ird.yahoo.com>	<04e701c93ddd$77f68080$0100000a@jo>	<88BB47D7-0157-4440-998C-36D697564EEF@gmail.com>	<BLU120-W367C8B4EDF6DD800A974D7B81D0@phx.gbl><8EDFA4D2-7691-4632-AC16-EF0ACCA822EB@earthlink.net>
	<007701c93e6b$213c9110$63b5b330$@com>
	<BD60B2A89D16094897629D4CCC50B1CB3A481D@ED01VN01.NCL-HIS.NHS.UK>
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Hey Alex I'm keen to get a copy of that actually, only cos I haven't heard
it before....I'm thinking it might come in handy in the future, perhaps in
some bizarre George Costanza try-to-freak-out-a-girlfriend-and-make-her
dump-you kinda thing...("Oh you gotta listen to this CD my guru made...")

Mail me offlist if you wanna sort something out.

Probably about the biggest possible booby prize after missing the
concerts, but who knows. The Elder Gods move in mysterious ways.

>
> It's true -- if it were ANY OTHER DISC in their catalog, I'd have a
> use for it. Hell, even OUTSIDE THE GATE would be easier to pass off to
> someone.
>
> Ugh.
>
> Alex in NYC
>
>
> On Nov 4, 2008, at 5:54 AM, Phillipps Marc wrote:
>
>>> you'll not even be able to flog Courtald on ebay
>>
>> There is an international statute against that isn't there?
>>
>> This communication may contain information that is confidential and
>> legally privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended
>> recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), please note
>> that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication
>> or the information within is strictly prohibited and may be
>> unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please
>> return it to the sender, then delete and destroy any copies of it.
>> The Health Informatics Service disclaims any liability for action
>> taken reliant on the content of this message. This communication is
>> from the Health Informatics Service serving Barnet Enfield &
>> Haringey Health Communities.
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From crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk  Tue Nov  4 09:48:24 2008
From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk (Sarah's Putrefying Kunt)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:48:24 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [kj] Free Dumb
In-Reply-To: <910304A5CB534E8EBE1D0F1B5CD2DABD@edweil>
Message-ID: <975499.67742.qm@web23202.mail.ird.yahoo.com>

Which country is FREE?

Is it like the bank sale,
buy one country get one free?

I think G. Brown the shit PM is negotiating something along those lines with the Saudis. Not the same ones who flew the planes into the WTC I hope!

--- On Tue, 4/11/08, Karen Weil <karen.weil at sddt.com> wrote:

> From: Karen Weil <karen.weil at sddt.com>
> Subject: Re: [kj] Dutch
> To: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk, "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
> Date: Tuesday, 4 November, 2008, 1:53 AM
> Hey, it's a free country. Get riled up all you like!
> : )
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> k.w.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Sarah's Putrefying Kunt"
> <crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk>
> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the
> band!)" 
> <gathering at misera.net>
> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 6:44 AM
> Subject: Re: [kj] Dutch
> 
> 
> > Why the hell should I
> > "settle down" ???
> >
> > RTX, Kristin Hersh, Githead, Shellac, Michael Gira,
> > The Dirty Three & Genesis P-Orridge
> > interviewed here:
> > http://www.perfectsoundforever.com
> >
> > Republicans Out Forever!
> >
> >
> > --- On Wed, 29/10/08, ade
> <ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >> From: ade <ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk>
> >> Subject: Re: [kj] Dutch
> >> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke
> (the band!)" 
> >> <gathering at misera.net>
> >> Date: Wednesday, 29 October, 2008, 9:43 PM
> >> Maybe the need to categorise is a by-product of
> how our
> >> brains work?
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
> >> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of
> folk devil
> >> Sent: 29 October 2008 17:29
> >> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the
> band!)
> >> Subject: Re: [kj] Dutch
> >>
> >>
> >> Nationality is a myth.
> >> It just keeps you neat and tidy in your box, even
> when it
> >> cannot represent every Culture contained inside.
> >>
> >>
> >> ""
> >>
> >> > From: karen.weil at sddt.com
> >> > To: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk;
> gathering at misera.net
> >> > Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 10:10:34 -0700
> >> > Subject: Re: [kj] Dutch
> >> >
> >> > OK, Change: Settle down. I say it only in a
> general
> >> sense. And guess what? I
> >> > actually think that about *most* people --
> regardless
> >> of nationality, etc.
> >> >
> >> > Respectfully,
> >> >
> >> > k.w.
> >> > (open-minded American)
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> > From: "Change"
> >> <crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk>
> >> > To: "A list about all things Killing
> Joke (the
> >> band!)"
> >> > <gathering at misera.net>
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 6:46 AM
> >> > Subject: [kj] Dutch
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > ALL the Dutch are good people?
> >> > >
> >> > > That seems a simplisitic view...
> >> > >
> >> > >> From: karen.weil at sddt.comTo:
> >> gathering at misera.netDate: Tue,
> >> > >> 28 Oct 2008 10:27:45 -0700Subject:
> Re: [kj]
> >> Nice Streets
> >> > >> Below: How We Wait in Europe
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Dank u wel for your input, Jerry.
> The Dutch
> >> are good people
> >> > >> (but sorry about your one experience
> there!)
> >> And I
> >> > >> couldn't agree with you about
> judging an
> >> entire
> >> > >> group/city/nation, etc. based on the
> actions
> >> of a few jerks.
> >> > >> It only leads to no good.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Anyway, tot ziens!
> >> > >>
> >> > >> k.w.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> > >> From: jerry bodkin
> >> > >> To: A list about all things Killing
> Joke (the
> >> band!)
> >> > >> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008
> 12:48 AM
> >> > >> Subject: Re: [kj] Nice Streets
> Below: How We
> >> Wait in Europe
> >> > >> Holland is a lovely country and the
> Dutch are
> >> a lovely
> >> > >> people, ive been there several times
> >> including once for just
> >> > >> 12 hours(10 of them in a police
> cell) but
> >> we'll leave
> >> > >> that there! France too is a
> beautiful
> >> beautiful place and
> >> > >> the people there too are lovely once
> you make
> >> an effort with
> >> > >> them. i.e. try at least to speak the
> >> language. Give me
> >> > >> Europe any day. Too often we judge
> an entire
> >> race on
> >> > >> individual behaviour, my God, what
> must most
> >> of the world
> >> > >> think of us English. Jelala.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> > From: karen.weil at sddt.com>
> To:
> >> > >> crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk;
> >> gathering at misera.net> Date:
> >> > >> Mon, 27 Oct 2008 11:51:50 -0700>
> Subject:
> >> Re: [kj] Nice
> >> > >> Streets Below: How We Wait in
> Europe> >
> >> Hi,
> >> > >> Change:> > Appreciate your
> thoughts on
> >> Belgium;
> >> > >> it's a fine place. Germany also
> offers
> >> > so much, and
> >> > >> has a very strong avant-guarde
> scene.>
> >> However, I have to
> >> > >> take issue with your comments about
> the Dutch
> >> and >
> >> > >> Europe. If anything, the Dutch have
> a totally
> >> different
> >> > >> attitude when it > comes to
> languages;
> >> that's why so
> >> > >> many of them speak three or four of
> them.
> >> > Whatever
> >> > >> differences they may have with their
> European
> >> neighbors; I
> >> > >> really > don't think the
> English issue
> >> plays a great
> >> > >> role.> And while Paris is
> outrageously
> >> expensive (I was
> >> > >> there in May; and believe > me,
> it was no
> >> fun coming from
> >> > >> a country where the currency is in
> the >
> >> toilet!), I
> >> > >> really can't agree with your
> observations
> >> about the
> >> > >> French, > either. (Although I
> will concur
> >> about their
> >> > >> love of Wire!)> But at any rate,
> enjoy
> >> travelling -- veel
> >> > >> plezier, as the Dutch say!> >
> >> Groetjes,> >
> >> > >> k.w.> > ----- Original Message
> -----
> >> > From:
> >> > >> "Change"
> >> <crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk>>
> >> > >> To: "A list about all things
> Killing
> >> Joke (the
> >> > >> band!)" >
> >> <gathering at misera.net>> Sent:
> >> > >> Wednesday, October 15, 2008 5:53
> AM>
> >> Subject: [kj] Nice
> >> > >> Streets Below: How We Wait in
> Europe> >
> >> > > How
> >> > >> nice it was to escape this ever more
> petty
> >> joke of a nation,
> >> > >> occupied > > as it has been by
> the USA
> >> since WW2. If
> >> > >> you want to get away from this >
> >
> >> rotten island then
> >> > >> a great place to go is Belgium. Its
> not too
> >> far by > >
> >> > >> coach through the tunnel. Brussels
> is
> >> beautiful. The streets
> >> > >> smell of > > coffee and
> chocolate, the
> >> people are
> >> > >> jolly and kind and there is great
> art >
> >> > everywhere.
> >> > >> No wonder Colin and Malka made it
> their home.
> >> There are also
> >> > >> > > lots of Belgians with
> little noses
> >> straight out of
> >> > >> a Tintin book. The food > >
> and beer
> >> are amazing. I
> >> > >> thought Brussels was wonderful but
> then I
> >> made it > >
> >> > >> to Ghent and was pretty damn glad
> the trams
> >> had been aborted
> >> > >> by a flower > > festival
> because I
> >> walked along the
> >> > >> canal to get back to the station and
> >
> >> > realised that
> >> > >> this is architecturally the most
> beautiful
> >> city I have seen.
> >> > >> > > I haven't made it to
> Prague yet
> >> though!
> >> > >> Antwerp looks like a low rent >
> >
> >> Barcelona copy, in
> >> > >> the same way Manchester tries to be
> European
> >> but always >
> >> > >> > ends up looking like> > a
> >> post-industrial dump.
> >> > >> Tilberg is very boxy but the people
> were
> >> partying > >
> >> > >> hard and late and the Dutch all seem
> to think
> >> the rest of
> >> > >> Europe is crap > > just
> because they
> >> don't all
> >> > >> speak perfect English! "Those
> crazy
> >> Dutch!" >
> >> > >> > said Lewis but I can't
> remember why.
> >> Maybe it was
> >> > >> something to do with the > >
> hotel WIRE
> >> rejected in
> >> > >> Tilburg. Margaret the guitarist said
> it was
> >> so > >
> >> > >> grotty she didn't even want to
> put her
> >> bag down in it
> >> > >> let alone sleep in > > it!>
> >>
> >> > Berlin is
> >> > >> a great place to explore, full of
> impressive
> >> sites and large
> >> > >> > > enough to spend years
> there I'd
> >> warrant.
> >> > >> Tiergarten is the largest and >
> > most
> >> lovely park
> >> > >> I've ever strolled through.
> German venues
> >> also make a
> >> > >> > > mockery of British ones in
> terms of
> >> the sound.>
> >> > >> >> > Strasbourg has a fine
> market
> >> where I found a
> >> > >> sabre for a mere twenty > >
> euros, a
> >> light sabre for
> >> > >> two euros and a tiny plastic Obelix
> for
> >> twenty > >
> >> > >> cents. Lewis loves the trams, but
> the modern
> >> art gallery,
> >> > >> watched over by > > one of
> >> Lovecraft's Forgotten
> >> > >> Ones, is even better. I spent too
> long there
> >> > > so
> >> > >> got to Paris 23 minutes too late. My
> Cologne
> >> friend Dirk
> >> > >> from the > > Gathering reckons
> >> Strasbourg is cool
> >> > >> because of the huge German
> influence. >
> >> > Cancel your
> >> > >> order, crossing the border, changing
> the
> >> menu!> >>
> >> > >> > The Eyefull tower is good for a
> stroll
> >> but Paris is
> >> > >> full of too many slow > >
> people and
> >> the prices are
> >> > >> obscene. Jus d'orange? Mai non
> je pense
> >> que je > >
> >> > >> WAIT until ich gehe zu Belqigue!
> Paris hotels
> >> are the worst.
> >> > >> Unlike > > Germany and
> Belgium, the
> >> beer is worse than
> >> > >> Britain. French computer > >
> keyboards
> >> were designed
> >> > >> by a retard and the showers go some
> way to
> >> > >
> >> > >> explaining why the English have
> often mocked
> >> the French for
> >> > >> being > > hygenically
> challenged. The
> >> redeeming
> >> > >> feature of the French is that many
> > >
> >> of them seem to
> >> > >> really love WIRE and gave the most
> >> enthusiastic response
> >> > >> > > of any crowds on this
> tour.>
> >> >> >
> >> > >> Anyway this was the route of my rail
> and road
> >> trip:>
> >> > >> >> > I arrived in beautiful
> Brussels
> >> in the middle
> >> > >> of some kind of medieval > >
> WARDANCE
> >> pageant. I had
> >> > >> time to visit the city's most
> mainstream
> >> record >
> >> > >> > store just opposite Ancienne
> Belquique
> >> which Killing
> >> > >> Joke would conquer by > > and
> by. I was
> >> rewarded by
> >> > >> finding a copy of one of the few PJ
> HARVEY
> >> > > singles
> >> > >> I didn't yet possess, 'A
> PLACE CALLED
> >> HOME.'>
> >> > >> >> > After a couple of
> hours I
> >> caught the train to
> >> > >> gorgeous Ghent for the WIRE >
> > gig at
> >> Democrazy.>
> >> > >> >> > Next day I took trains
> via
> >> Antwerp and a bus
> >> > >> NORTH OF THE BORDER to > >
> Tilburg just
> >> in time to
> >> > >> catch the seismic riffin'
> PELICAN and
> >> Dutch > >
> >> > >> hardcore heroes SEEIN' RED
> before WIRE
> >> blasted off at
> >> > >> around 7pm. Later I > > was
> also
> >> entertained by the
> >> > >> double breasted PRE and a Satanic
> black metal
> >> > > band
> >> > >> who gave the crowd the finger for
> watching
> >> them, all of
> >> > >> which was > > unexpected.>
> >>
> >> > On
> >> > >> returning to Brussels I witnessed a
> lovely
> >> WIRE gig at La
> >> > >> Botanique, a > > venue which
> could
> >> verily call itself
> >> > >> NICE STREETS ABOVE if it so desired.
> >
> >> > I struck up
> >> > >> conversation with a charming
> photographer and
> >> graphic
> >> > >> designer > > called Violette
> who sent
> >> me eight great
> >> > >> photos of WIRE from the gig.>
> >>
> >> > After the gig
> >> > >> I had to START TO MOVE pretty sharp
> and
> >> jumped on the night
> >> > >> > > train where I was
> entertained by
> >> conversation with
> >> > >> a former theatre > > director
> who had
> >> just aborted a
> >> > >> trip to Turkey. He recommended a
> trip to >
> >> >
> >> > >> Tiergarten which proved very good
> advice. My
> >> first police
> >> > >> encounter was > > with two
> cops on the
> >> Ostbahnhof
> >> > >> platform who took a rather long time
> >
> >> > checking to
> >> > >> find out if Interpol have a warrant
> out on me
> >> for listening
> >> > >> to > > music in my living
> room. Berlin
> >> is also very
> >> > >> cool and well worth a visit >
> > in its
> >> own right, but
> >> > >> smells worse than Brussels.>
> >> >
> >> The first
> >> > >> night was free before the arrival of
> KILLING
> >> JOKE so I
> >> > >> checked > > out the SO36 venue
> where
> >> they and WIRE
> >> > >> played, which was immortalised in a
> > >
> >> song on the
> >> > >> first KILLING JOKE album. The sound
> was
> >> excellent as are all
> >> > >> > > other German venues
> I've ever
> >> been to. The
> >> > >> soundman played KILLING JOKE >
> > before
> >> the headline
> >> > >> act, a comedy punk trio who
> weren't very
> >> funny but >
> >> > >> > probably liked DEVO. We talked
> after the
> >> gig and I run
> >> > >> into him again at > > the
> KILLING JOKE
> >> gigs.>
> >> > >> >> > After the amazing
> KILLING JOKE
> >> regeneration in
> >> > >> Berlin, with Big Paul's >
> > drum
> >> kit illuminated
> >> > >> and smoking ritualistically, I
> planned to
> >> head to > >
> >> > >> Paris to see them there. The train
> times were
> >> TOO LATE so at
> >> > >> the last > > minute I rerouted
> to
> >> Strasbourg for more
> >> > >> WIRE and this proved a wise >
> > choice
> >> as the COMET
> >> > >> hit very late and I caught the whole
> set in
> >> front of a >
> >> > >> > very young and enthusiastic
> crowd at a
> >> festival that
> >> > >> went on until 6am. > > Next
> day my
> >> second run in with
> >> > >> cops was with two French transport
> police
> >> > > who ask
> >> > >> me to wrap up my sword so that it
> >> couldn't be seen
> >> > >> before I caught > > the
> train.>
> >> >> > Paris
> >> > >> next for more WIRE, on a first class
> train
> >> where I started
> >> > >> downing > > some of the left
> over
> >> Heineken from last
> >> > >> night's rider and upset a French
> >
> >> > idiot who had
> >> > >> a tantrum because I couldn't
> stop
> >> belching even when she
> >> > >> > > kicked my chair. She
> complained to
> >> the guard and
> >> > >> he clearly thought it was > >
> a bit
> >> silly having to
> >> > >> ask me not to belch when I
> couldn't help
> >> it. In the >
> >> > >> > end she started complaining I
> was
> >> playing the BUTTHOLE
> >> > >> SURFERS too loud on > > my
> headphones
> >> and he came
> >> > >> back, again embarrassed, to ask me
> to turn it
> >> > >
> >> > >> down. Then she had a stroke of
> genius and
> >> moved to another
> >> > >> seat. Perhaps > > its a good
> job the
> >> sword was
> >> > >> wrapped!> > If you ever feel
> like going
> >> to Paris my
> >> > >> advice is don't bother. Go in a
> > >
> >> cafe that
> >> > >> advertises coffee for a Euro and
> they greasy
> >> waiters will
> >> > >> > > chearge you five.>
> >> >
> >> It was nice to
> >> > >> speed back to Belgium and Brussels
> which was
> >> already >
> >> > >> > seeming like a second home. I
> found many
> >> cool CDs in
> >> > >> the shops, including > > quite
> >> appropriately
> >> > >> COMMERCIAL SUICIDE. Being there for
> three
> >> days I had >
> >> > >> > plenty of time to explore and
> each day
> >> surpassed the
> >> > >> previous one. I met > > so
> many great
> >> people in
> >> > >> Belgium I felt like moving
> there!>
> >> >> > My
> >> > >> favourite songs to listen to on a
> speeding
> >> train were>
> >> > >> > KILLING JOKE - Pssyche> >
> WIRE -
> >> Drill (DJ
> >> > >> Fuckoff Version)> > oh dear
> the
> >> moderate Craig
> >> > >> won't like that will he?>
> > KILLING
> >> JOKE -
> >> > >> Timewave> > PJ HARVEY -
> Taut> >
> >> EINSTURZENDE
> >> > >> NEUBAUTEN - Haus Der Lauge> >
> BAND OF
> >> SUSANS - Guitar
> >> > >> Trio> > KILLING JOKE - Empire
> Song>
> >> > WIRE -
> >> > >> Germ Ship> > WIRE - Spent>
> >
> >> BUTTHOLE SURFERS -
> >> > >> Who was in my room last night?>
> >>
> >> > Back home
> >> > >> after another awesome double dose of
> the
> >> mighty JOKE I had a
> >> > >> day > > of rest and didn't
> even
> >> have time enough
> >> > >> to notice what a terminal dump >
> >
> >> Manchester is
> >> > >> because the MELVINS wheeled in to
> rock the
> >> town and give me
> >> > >> > > a chance to catch up with
> lots of
> >> old friends.
> >> > >> That is the great thing > >
> about
> >> Manchester, lots of
> >> > >> good gigs.> >> > Next
> day I was
> >> off again to
> >> > >> London for the KILLING JOKE
> homecoming and as
> >> > >
> >> > >> chaotic synchronicity would have it,
> THALIA
> >> ZEDEK and her
> >> > >> band began their > > tour the
> very next
> >> day. She's
> >> > >> a brilliant intense songwriter.
> Check her
> >> > > out
> >> > >> while you still can...> >>
> >
> >> > >> www.myspace.com/thaliazedek>
> >> >
> >> Her tour ends
> >> > >> on October 23 at La Botanique in
> >> Brussels!> >> >
> >> > >> I went to all the THALIA ZEDEK BAND
> gigs in
> >> England and
> >> > >> after the best one > > at Hull
> Adelphi
> >> I had to zoom
> >> > >> down to Cheam in Surrey for my
> younger >
> >> >
> >> > >> sister's wedding. The lavish
> reception
> >> was held on a
> >> > >> Territorial Army base > > but
> my uncles
> >> and I resisted
> >> > >> the temptation to hijack a tank. One
> thing I
> >> > > gave
> >> > >> her was a copy of 'UH HUH
> HER' by PJ
> >> HARVEY as
> >> > >> "The Desperate Kingdom >
> > of
> >> Love"
> >> > >> couldn't really be a better song
> to wish
> >> for a long
> >> > >> loving > > marriage, at the
> end of this
> >> burning
> >> > >> world.> >> > Then I went
> home to
> >> transcribe
> >> > >> interesting interviews with MAGAZINE
> and >
> >> > WIRE,
> >> > >> blow up some more stereo speakers,
> and wait
> >> for civilization
> >> > >> to fall > > in its grave.>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > >> ACCELERATE> > ACCELERATE>
> >>
> >> >>
> >> > >> >> >> >> >>
> >
> >> > >>
> >>
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From crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk  Tue Nov  4 09:49:44 2008
From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk (Sarah's Putrefying Kunt)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:49:44 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [kj] Carboot Courtauld 99
In-Reply-To: <45118.203.185.215.144.1225810038.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz>
Message-ID: <336898.88183.qm@web23203.mail.ird.yahoo.com>

Go for it 
I got my copy 99p in a carboot sale in Brighten!

I like to play it in the dark an perform a ritual to contact the forgotten ones.


RTX, Kristin Hersh, Githead, Shellac, Michael Gira, 
The Dirty Three & Genesis P-Orridge 
interviewed here:
http://www.perfectsoundforever.com

Republicans Out Forever!


--- On Tue, 4/11/08, Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> wrote:

> From: Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
> Subject: Re: [kj] Plasticheadbutted
> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
> Date: Tuesday, 4 November, 2008, 2:47 PM
> Hey Alex I'm keen to get a copy of that actually, only
> cos I haven't heard
> it before....I'm thinking it might come in handy in the
> future, perhaps in
> some bizarre George Costanza
> try-to-freak-out-a-girlfriend-and-make-her
> dump-you kinda thing...("Oh you gotta listen to this
> CD my guru made...")
> 
> Mail me offlist if you wanna sort something out.
> 
> Probably about the biggest possible booby prize after
> missing the
> concerts, but who knows. The Elder Gods move in mysterious
> ways.
> 
> >
> > It's true -- if it were ANY OTHER DISC in their
> catalog, I'd have a
> > use for it. Hell, even OUTSIDE THE GATE would be
> easier to pass off to
> > someone.
> >
> > Ugh.
> >
> > Alex in NYC
> >
> >
> > On Nov 4, 2008, at 5:54 AM, Phillipps Marc wrote:
> >
> >>> you'll not even be able to flog Courtald
> on ebay
> >>
> >> There is an international statute against that
> isn't there?
> >>
> >> This communication may contain information that is
> confidential and
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From crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk  Tue Nov  4 09:52:09 2008
From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk (Sarah's Putrefying Kunt)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:52:09 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [kj] Plasticheadbutted
In-Reply-To: <BLU120-W6321AB65408BEBB413E94B81C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <748896.16284.qm@web23206.mail.ird.yahoo.com>

perhaps they were 
reading this email list and having a laugh on you???

> gathering at misera.net> Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 19:54:56
> -0500> Subject: [kj] Plasticheadbutted> > > So,
> a little while after I crossed the perilous rubicon of 41, I
> > decided to splurge and pick up both the DUENDES disc
> ORIGINAL > UNPERVERTED PANTOMIME CD/DVD via Plastichead.
> Sure, a bit more > expensive than I'd prefer, but I
> work hard for my fucking money, and > it's been a
> shit year and I'll take my fleeting, few remaining >
> pleasures where I can find them. Few things bring me as much
> joy as > Killing Joke, so I feel no guilt. I placed my
> online order with > Plastichead and eagerly awaited their
> arrival.> > Today, a bulky package sat waiting for me
> in my mailbox. When I > brought it upstairs, I hungrily
> ripped it open to find a lovingly > packaged pair of
> discs containing THE ORIGINAL UNPERVERTED PANTOMIME >
> and.....> > > .......> > > >
> ..........> > > ...............> > > THE
> COURTAULD TALKS!> > > > > ::::crickets:::>
> > > Fuck Plastichead.> > > Alex in NYC>



      

From crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk  Tue Nov  4 09:53:33 2008
From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk (Sarah's Putrefying Kunt)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:53:33 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [kj] Arse Tax
In-Reply-To: <BLU120-W367C8B4EDF6DD800A974D7B81D0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <994845.90492.qm@web23203.mail.ird.yahoo.com>

Wot a load of bollox

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The Dirty Three & Genesis P-Orridge 
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--- On Mon, 3/11/08, melinda grant <hollytree1961 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> From: melinda grant <hollytree1961 at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [kj] Arse Tax
> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
> Date: Monday, 3 November, 2008, 8:57 PM
> wow amaizing-- fats i need a stiff drink and a lie down
> after reading that lol ;D)))> From:
> fatpotanga at gmail.com> To: gathering at misera.net> Date:
> Mon, 3 Nov 2008 18:44:32 +0000> Subject: Re: [kj] Arse
> Tax> > > Absolutely!> Morality is
> subjective.> Subjectivity is objective (but not in a
> rational scheme of perception)> But then, perception is
> irrational as it implies immanence.> The judgement of any
> system of phenomena exists in any rational, >
> metaphysical or epistemological contradiction to an
> abstracted > empirical concept such as being, or to be,
> or to occur in the thing > itself, or of the thing
> itself. Which I'm sure is something we've all >
> said many times.> In short, moral notions imply
> attributes to substances which exist > only in relational
> duality but not as an essential extension of >
> ontological existence.> > > --->
> http://www.iamscuzzy.com - go there. it's nice.> >
> <?(((>< ~ only dead fish go with the flow>
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From crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk  Tue Nov  4 09:56:18 2008
From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk (Sarah's Putrefying Kunt)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:56:18 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [kj] Arse Tax
In-Reply-To: <058601c93dec$f6857f50$0100000a@jo>
Message-ID: <763570.90884.qm@web23204.mail.ird.yahoo.com>


Even up yer arse!

> ha - they get everywhere
> 
> 
>   bloody transcendentalist ;)
> 
> 
>   "."
> 
> 
> 
>   > From: fatpotanga at gmail.com
>   > To: gathering at misera.net
>   > Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 18:44:32 +0000
>   > Subject: Re: [kj] Arse Tax
>   > 
>   > On 3 Nov 2008, at 17:56, jo wrote:
>   > 
>   > > How can you have moral imperative?
>   > 
>   > 
>   > Absolutely!
>   > Morality is subjective.
>   > Subjectivity is objective (but not in a rational
> scheme of perception)
>   > But then, perception is irrational as it implies
> immanence.
>   > The judgement of any system of phenomena exists in
> any rational, 
>   > metaphysical or epistemological contradiction to an
> abstracted 
>   > empirical concept such as being, or to be, or to
> occur in the thing 
>   > itself, or of the thing itself. Which I'm sure
> is something we've all 
>   > said many times.
>   > In short, moral notions imply attributes to
> substances which exist 
>   > only in relational duality but not as an essential
> extension of 
>   > ontological existence.
>   > 
>   > 
>   > ---
>   > http://www.iamscuzzy.com - go there. it's nice.
>   > 
>   > <?(((>< ~ only dead fish go with the flow
>   > 
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From crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk  Tue Nov  4 09:58:11 2008
From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk (Sarah's Putrefying Kunt)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:58:11 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [kj] Drivel
In-Reply-To: <20081103093627.4FF68F15@resin15.mta.everyone.net>
Message-ID: <262407.93919.qm@web23203.mail.ird.yahoo.com>

Who did you kill?

Which one of your mates did you want me to fuck?

Will iPat be around to tell some lies about it?

RTX, Kristin Hersh, Githead, Shellac, Michael Gira, 
The Dirty Three & Genesis P-Orridge 
interviewed here:
http://www.perfectsoundforever.com

Republicans Out Forever!


--- On Mon, 3/11/08, Rob's Arse <joker at Z6.com> wrote:

> From: Rob's Arse <joker at Z6.com>
> Subject: Re: [kj] Arse Tax
> To: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk, "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
> Date: Monday, 3 November, 2008, 5:36 PM
> Fuck me mate.
> 
> Your head is completely addled!
> 
> I'm sure that when you sit down to type, something
> happens between your brain and your fingers that result in
> this utter drivvle. Add that one to your list of words that
> will never make it into KJ lyrics, numpty! In fact,
> there's two.
> 
> Right, I'm off home. I've had a fucking hard day
> working, paying my tax and killing people.
> 
> Wazzock!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> www.iamscuzzy.com www.myspace.com/scuzzywear
> 
> --- crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> 
> From: Sarah's Kunt <crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk>
> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the
> band!\)" <gathering at misera.net>
> Subject: [kj] Arse Tax
> Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 12:25:58 +0000 (GMT)
> 
> I'm quite happy to talk shit to Rob's Arse/face but
> only AFTER he's had it out with Jaz over the tax evasion
> issue and told Youth that his art is shit. I guess Youth
> will be raking in a lot more dosh making so called
> 'shit' art (wow what an illuminating critique!) than
> Arse will making Scuzzy Hoodies as the Credit Crunch hits
> lunch, dinner and tea.
> 
> As for taking the moral high ground with Jaz over tax
> avoidance, that is so laughably hypocritical as to be almost
> beneath contempt. Here we are in a nation run by an
> unelected buffoon who has sold off all the gold reserves in
> a grossly backfiring attempt to boost his economic acumen,
> who continues illegal and highly immoral occupations of
> other nations and props up his mates in the shitty city when
> it is them who've wiped out the pensions and destroyed
> homes with their sub prime bullshit hedge cons. 
> 
> Anyone in Britain or the USA who pays taxes has NO MORAL
> IMPERATIVE whatsoever. You are all complicit in mass murder
> and corruption whether you deny it or not. I'm sure Jaz
> can find much more productive ways to invest for the future
> than the greedy shits who run the Western World.
> 
> If anyone would like to hit me in the pub for typing this,
> then go ahead. You'll probably just end up in a cell
> instead of at a Killing Joke gig and I'll end up with a
> funny story to bore everyone with! Then there'll be less
> at the headcount.
> 
> Sorry to bore you all so.
> Now back to your insufferably interesting diet of the 
> infinite wisdom of the Exorcist, a Wazzock slagging
> Youth's art with zero critique, tech-heads judging
> Geordie's guitar sound on the basis of a COMPRESSED
> digital file, and vacuous Americans wailing and gnashing
> teeth over Jaz Coleman's tendency to exaggerate and not
> always be truthful like his momma shoulda told him.
> 
> Vote Republican!
> Sarcasm will save the intellect!
> 
> 
> RTX, Kristin Hersh, Githead, Shellac, Michael Gira, 
> The Dirty Three & Genesis P-Orridge 
> interviewed here:
> http://www.perfectsoundforever.com
> 
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> 
> 
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From crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk  Tue Nov  4 10:00:42 2008
From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk (Sarah's Putrefying Kunt)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 15:00:42 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [kj] ...And Jury?
In-Reply-To: <3688.203.210.68.145.1225739084.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz>
Message-ID: <742530.29657.qm@web23205.mail.ird.yahoo.com>

They are the judges too.

--- On Mon, 3/11/08, Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> wrote:

> From: Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
> Subject: Re: [kj] Arse Tax
> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
> Date: Monday, 3 November, 2008, 7:04 PM
> Fatpotanga:
> 
> "In short, moral notions imply attributes to
> substances which exist
> only in relational duality but not as an essential
> extension of
> ontological existence. I rest my case"
> 
> Jury:
> 
> "We the jury find you guilty. And drop the ridiculous
> name - you're not
> even slightly Samoan."
> 
> "Fuck."
> 
> 
> > On 3 Nov 2008, at 17:56, jo wrote:
> >
> >> How can you have moral imperative?
> >
> >
> > Absolutely!
> > Morality is subjective.
> > Subjectivity is objective (but not in a rational
> scheme of perception)
> > But then, perception is irrational as it implies
> immanence.
> > The judgement of any system of phenomena exists in any
> rational,
> > metaphysical or epistemological contradiction to an
> abstracted
> > empirical concept such as being, or to be, or to occur
> in the thing
> > itself, or of the thing itself. Which I'm sure is
> something we've all
> > said many times.
> > In short, moral notions imply attributes to substances
> which exist
> > only in relational duality but not as an essential
> extension of
> > ontological existence.
> >
> >
> > ---
> > http://www.iamscuzzy.com - go there. it's nice.
> >
> > <?(((>< ~ only dead fish go with the flow
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Gathering mailing list
> > Gathering at misera.net
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From crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk  Tue Nov  4 10:01:33 2008
From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk (Sarah's Putrefying Kunt)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 15:01:33 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [kj] Weird
In-Reply-To: <587663.7282.qm@web36704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <611332.70784.qm@web23203.mail.ird.yahoo.com>

Don't just say "WEIRD"

Get WEIRD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

RTX, Kristin Hersh, Githead, Shellac, Michael Gira, 
The Dirty Three & Genesis P-Orridge 
interviewed here:
http://www.perfectsoundforever.com

Republicans Out Forever!


--- On Mon, 3/11/08, The Stranger <letranger789 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: The Stranger <letranger789 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [kj] Arse Tax
> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
> Date: Monday, 3 November, 2008, 7:02 PM
> Weird, I was just gonna say that!!!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: fatpotanga <fatpotanga at gmail.com>
> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
> <gathering at misera.net>
> Sent: Monday, November 3, 2008 1:44:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [kj] Arse Tax
> 
> On 3 Nov 2008, at 17:56, jo wrote:
> 
> > How can you have moral imperative?
> 
> 
> Absolutely!
> Morality is subjective.
> Subjectivity is objective (but not in a rational scheme of
> perception)
> But then, perception is irrational as it implies immanence.
> The judgement of any system of phenomena exists in any
> rational, metaphysical or epistemological contradiction to
> an abstracted empirical concept such as being, or to be, or
> to occur in the thing itself, or of the thing itself. Which
> I'm sure is something we've all said many times.
> In short, moral notions imply attributes to substances
> which exist only in relational duality but not as an
> essential extension of ontological existence.
> 
> 
> ---
> http://www.iamscuzzy.com - go there. it's nice.
> 
> <?(((>< ~ only dead fish go with the flow
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk  Tue Nov  4 10:04:50 2008
From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk (Sarah's Putrefying Kunt)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 15:04:50 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [kj] Bonzo Goes to Hell
In-Reply-To: <61806.203.210.68.145.1225738547.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz>
Message-ID: <466435.96997.qm@web23204.mail.ird.yahoo.com>

Well my good friends of the excellent bands Mugstar and Laymar and Stray Dog cafe will be partyin' on at Retrobar 5/11 no matter who wins.

I guess if that old malicious army twit gets in with his poison bitch running mate, I'll have to raise up a weird army of musician and invade North America.

http://www.myspace.com/mugstar

Stay healthy... don't be bitter & malicious it'll give ye cancer don't ya know?


RTX, Kristin Hersh, Githead, Shellac, Michael Gira, 
The Dirty Three & Genesis P-Orridge 
interviewed here:
http://www.perfectsoundforever.com

Republicans Out Forever!


--- On Mon, 3/11/08, Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> wrote:

> From: Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
> Subject: Re: [kj] Bonzo Goes to Hell
> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
> Date: Monday, 3 November, 2008, 6:55 PM
> Hey what an idea...how cool would a worldwide FUCK BUSH
> party be (oo-er)?
> I wonder if it's too late to start one?
> 
> Okay...who has any friends?
> 
> >
> > Absolutely! But, if McCain gets in...I'm turning
> Mayan ;)
> > "> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 07:28:57 +1300>
> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz> To:
> > gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re: [kj] Bonzo Goes
> to Hell> > Whatever
> > happens I'll raise a toast that Bush is gone,
> thank Dog for small>
> > mercies. What a disgrace, I hope history treats him
> with the contempt he>
> > deserves.> > >> > He hasn't
> 'won' yet.> >> > "> Date: Mon, 3
> Nov 2008
> > 12:19:57 +0000> From:
> crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk>> > To:
> > gathering at misera.net> Subject: [kj] Bonzo Goes to
> Hell> > 'I should> > add
> > that when Johnny stated ?God Bless George Bush'
> at the 2002 Rock&Roll> >
> > Hall of Fame awards, I realize now that he was on to
> something. Because
> > if> > it were not for George Bush and his
> handling of our country the past
> > 8> > years, I doubt so many Americans, including
> so many highly regarded>
> > > Republicans, would now be getting behind Barack
> Obama. So, yes, thank
> > God> > for George Bush for paving the way to
> Obama.'> > > ~ ~ Mickey
> > Leigh> >> >
> >
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From crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk  Tue Nov  4 10:06:29 2008
From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk (Sarah's Putrefying Kunt)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 15:06:29 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [kj] Bonzo Goes to Hell
In-Reply-To: <BAY107-W9B921ABDD8827E80762A5ED1D0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <156722.82190.qm@web23202.mail.ird.yahoo.com>

And if he doesn't win we are doomed.


--- On Mon, 3/11/08, folk devil <folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> From: folk devil <folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [kj] Bonzo Goes to Hell
> To: gathering at misera.net
> Date: Monday, 3 November, 2008, 5:10 PM
> He hasn't 'won' yet.
>  
> "> Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 12:19:57 +0000> From:
> crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk> To: gathering at misera.net>
> Subject: [kj] Bonzo Goes to Hell> > 'I should add
> that when Johnny stated ?God Bless George Bush' at the
> 2002 Rock&Roll Hall of Fame awards, I realize now that
> he was on to something. Because if it were not for George
> Bush and his handling of our country the past 8 years, I
> doubt so many Americans, including so many highly regarded
> Republicans, would now be getting behind Barack Obama. So,
> yes, thank God for George Bush for paving the way to
> Obama.'> > > ~ ~ Mickey Leigh> > 
> _________________________________________________________________
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> secrets? from Jamie.
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From crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk  Tue Nov  4 10:08:54 2008
From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk (Sarah's Putrefying Kunt)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 15:08:54 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [kj] Mice
In-Reply-To: <51498.203.210.68.145.1225737694.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz>
Message-ID: <784329.30457.qm@web23206.mail.ird.yahoo.com>

If you have a mouse infestation it is a good idea to kill them.
If they get killed they tend to go away as they realise they are in a hostile environment.

> 
> Try it. Opt out of giving a shit, then kill a bird or a
> mouse, for the
> hell of it. See if it was that easy.
> 



      

From crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk  Tue Nov  4 10:10:28 2008
From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk (Sarah's Putrefying Kunt)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 15:10:28 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [kj] Bonzo Goes to Hell
In-Reply-To: <42084.203.210.68.145.1225736937.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz>
Message-ID: <617956.39367.qm@web23205.mail.ird.yahoo.com>

What he deserves is to be put on trial for WAR CRIMES with
Rumsfled, Wolfowitz, Ashcroft, Cheney, Rove and all those other motherfuckers.

--- On Mon, 3/11/08, Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> wrote:

> From: Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
> Subject: Re: [kj] Bonzo Goes to Hell
> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
> Date: Monday, 3 November, 2008, 6:28 PM
> Whatever happens I'll raise a toast that Bush is gone,
> thank Dog for small
> mercies. What a disgrace, I hope history treats him with
> the contempt he
> deserves.
> 
> >
> > He hasn't 'won' yet.
> >
> > "> Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 12:19:57 +0000>
> From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk>
> > To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: [kj] Bonzo Goes
> to Hell> > 'I should
> > add that when Johnny stated ?God Bless George
> Bush' at the 2002 Rock&Roll
> > Hall of Fame awards, I realize now that he was on to
> something. Because if
> > it were not for George Bush and his handling of our
> country the past 8
> > years, I doubt so many Americans, including so many
> highly regarded
> > Republicans, would now be getting behind Barack Obama.
> So, yes, thank God
> > for George Bush for paving the way to Obama.'>
> > > ~ ~ Mickey Leigh> >
> >
> _________________________________________________________________
> > Want to do more with Windows Live? Learn ?10 hidden
> secrets? from Jamie..
> >
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From vassifer at earthlink.net  Tue Nov  4 10:16:04 2008
From: vassifer at earthlink.net (Alex Smith)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 10:16:04 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
Subject: [kj] 11:11
Message-ID: <28312626.1225811765506.JavaMail.root@mswamui-bichon.atl.sa.earthlink.net>


I saw Come open for a Steve Wynn/Dream Syndicate reunion at the Mercury Lounge back in the 90s.

They were a bore. Give me Live Skull every time.

Alex in NYC


-----Original Message-----
>From: Sarah's Putrefying Kunt <crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk>
>Sent: Nov 4, 2008 9:40 AM
>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
>Subject: [kj] 11:11
>
>11:11 is the title of the first COME album, one of the best albums in the universe.
>
>11:11 Sun Ra Arkestra play Deaf Institute, Interzone
>
>Proof USA ain't all bad - an old live tape of the Light The Sound FLIPPER live & L7 from Norwitch on a Broomstick
>
>I am making a lifesize effigy of Mme Palin to immolate on 5:11
>The universe laughs on my way here I found a bus ticket valid until
>9:11
>
>(butt off course)
>
>RTX, Kristin Hersh, Githead, Shellac, Michael Gira, 
>The Dirty Three & Genesis P-Orridge 
>interviewed here:
>http://www.perfectsoundforever.com
>
>Republicans Out Forever!
>
>
>--- On Tue, 4/11/08, Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> wrote:
>
>> From: Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
>> Subject: Re: [kj] Plasticheadbutted
>> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
>> Date: Tuesday, 4 November, 2008, 2:33 PM
>> Perhaps the Elder Gods are trying to tell you something? Did
>> you REALLY
>> listen to it before? Did it turn up at 11:11?
>> 
>> Sorry ;p
>> 
>> >
>> > See, though, here's the thing:   I ALREADY OWNED
>> IT.
>> >
>> > Alex in NYC
>> >
>> >
>> > On Nov 3, 2008, at 7:58 PM, fluw wrote:
>> >
>> >> Ha the courtauld talks is a classic 
>
>
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From pmdavies at gmail.com  Tue Nov  4 10:38:16 2008
From: pmdavies at gmail.com (iPat)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 15:38:16 +0000
Subject: [kj] hey! asbo boy
In-Reply-To: <139583.89505.qm@web23208.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
References: <1646350c0811030708n7cb5828fx9fdb47a176d19bdf@mail.gmail.com>
	<139583.89505.qm@web23208.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1646350c0811040738v5c31204bx32c3612df41becab@mail.gmail.com>

well if you dont its probably because you are taking so much of them,
collecting tin cans is not an acceptable answer. your rebellious
charade is cracked.

going back to a previous question,
do you not think that your behaviour has consequences and that is why
you keep getting a hostile reaction from your neighbours, people at
gigs, people on this list etc asbo boy

so who's sad that they need to try to be so contentious to get attention
so who's malicious that they need to be abusive to so many people
so who's old - man have you looked at yourself. From the pictures
recently and from the time you irritated myself and the others in my
company at the 25th anniversary where we politety tolerated you. what
ever you are doing is not doing you much good
so whos a fart when the most hot gas seems to eminate from the cracked
machine email in whatever guise it takes

On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 2:42 PM, Sarah's Putrefying Kunt
<crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> I don't sell drugs you sad malicious old fart

From pmdavies at gmail.com  Tue Nov  4 10:42:15 2008
From: pmdavies at gmail.com (iPat)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 15:42:15 +0000
Subject: [kj] Mice
In-Reply-To: <784329.30457.qm@web23206.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
References: <51498.203.210.68.145.1225737694.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz>
	<784329.30457.qm@web23206.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1646350c0811040742w2097ace1m21c6c4fd24bb980e@mail.gmail.com>

now theres a thought

<crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk> :
> If you have a mouse infestation it is a good idea to kill them.
> If they get killed they tend to go away as they realise they are in a hostile environment.
>

From folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com  Tue Nov  4 11:46:23 2008
From: folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com (folk devil)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 08:46:23 -0800
Subject: [kj] (OT) The Official US Election Thread
In-Reply-To: <BD60B2A89D16094897629D4CCC50B1CB3A4820@ED01VN01.NCL-HIS.NHS.UK>
References: <BD60B2A89D16094897629D4CCC50B1CB3A4820@ED01VN01.NCL-HIS.NHS.UK>
Message-ID: <COL109-W58FCEC903D3E5F8C582D96ED1C0@phx.gbl>


I wonder what the Electoral college will 'make' of the turn out in voters? ;["

Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 12:07:57 +0000From: Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.ukTo: gathering at misera.netSubject: [kj] (OT) The Official US Election Thread





 
This is a site well worth keeping an eye on . . . 
 
http://blog.ourvotelive.org/
 
Some scary stuff on there already 

 
 
 
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From bq at soundgardener.co.nz  Tue Nov  4 12:11:39 2008
From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 06:11:39 +1300 (NZDT)
Subject: [kj] (OT) The Official US Election Thread
In-Reply-To: <COL109-W58FCEC903D3E5F8C582D96ED1C0@phx.gbl>
References: <BD60B2A89D16094897629D4CCC50B1CB3A4820@ED01VN01.NCL-HIS.NHS.UK>
	<COL109-W58FCEC903D3E5F8C582D96ED1C0@phx.gbl>
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You'd think the long lines etc would be good for Ole Crusty and not so
good for the Young Feller...seeing as he's counting on support from young
ppl and previously uninterested voters.

I suppose it IS a massive operation, but fuck's sake, you'd think with God
knows how many centuries practice they'd have polling under control by
now...

>
> I wonder what the Electoral college will 'make' of the turn out in voters?
> ;["
>
> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 12:07:57 +0000From: Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.ukTo:
> gathering at misera.netSubject: [kj] (OT) The Official US Election Thread
>
>
>
>
>
>
> This is a site well worth keeping an eye on . . .
>
> http://blog.ourvotelive.org/
>
> Some scary stuff on there already
>
>
>
>
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From partyslammer at socal.rr.com  Tue Nov  4 12:27:19 2008
From: partyslammer at socal.rr.com (TB)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 09:27:19 -0800
Subject: [kj] (OT) The Official US Election Thread
In-Reply-To: <26978.203.185.215.144.1225818699.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz>
References: <BD60B2A89D16094897629D4CCC50B1CB3A4820@ED01VN01.NCL-HIS.NHS.UK><COL109-W58FCEC903D3E5F8C582D96ED1C0@phx.gbl>
	<26978.203.185.215.144.1225818699.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz>
Message-ID: <FC77F6B8B2574E9C826BD6469D915F52@Bell2007PC>

"Brendan" wrote:


> You'd think the long lines etc would be good for Ole Crusty and not so
> good for the Young Feller...seeing as he's counting on support from young
> ppl and previously uninterested voters.
>
> I suppose it IS a massive operation, but fuck's sake, you'd think with God
> knows how many centuries practice they'd have polling under control by
> now...

The last day or so, things have definitely ratcheted up to near-hysterical 
proportions on all sides, not just for candidates, but measures and 
propositions too.

Some of the tv and radio ads running for the last day regarding several 
propositions (especially the California gay marriage ban) have gone 
completely over the edge.  If the gay thing passes, I'm to expect thousands 
of newly minted homo children taught about how a "princess can marry a 
princess" to be swarming the streets like something out of "Dawn of the 
Dead" and deadly mutant chicken eggs from across the borders flooding our 
stores if the so-called "animal rights" bill passes.

By last night we were getting pre-recorded calls and a few "live" ones as 
well from various local candidates, supporters and opponents of various 
propositions and of course, from the two Presidential candidates at the rate 
of about 4 per hour on all 3 phone numbers.  After 8pm, I just switched on 
the answering machine for the home phone and turned off my cell phone.

Overnight. we got our first real rain this season since about 3am and it 
just let up and started clearing around dawn.  The polling place was just 
starting to get crowded (maybe about 20 people) when my wife and I took a 
morning walk and voted at 8am.  No chanting Obamaroids, McCainiacs or 
psychotic Prop 8 supporters present on the corner like this past weekend, so 
it was sadly a comedy-free morning.

A lot of people (rightfully) claim this election has brought out the best in 
many people, but it's surely brought out the worst as well.  I'm renting a 
few movies and will probably avoid watching live tv 'til tomorrow. 
Regardless of the outcome, I'll be fuckin' glad when this is over.

T.B. 


From fluke1 at live.co.uk  Tue Nov  4 12:45:55 2008
From: fluke1 at live.co.uk (fluke fluke)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 17:45:55 +0000
Subject: [kj] Mice
In-Reply-To: <784329.30457.qm@web23206.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
References: <51498.203.210.68.145.1225737694.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz>
	<784329.30457.qm@web23206.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BLU108-W3404917846C42371A0B8E9BE1C0@phx.gbl>


 
 
    They tend to go away because they are dead , rather than because of any realisation
 
 
> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 15:08:54 +0000> From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: [kj] Mice> > If you have a mouse infestation it is a good idea to kill them.> If they get killed they tend to go away as they realise they are in a hostile environment.> > > > > Try it. Opt out of giving a shit, then kill a bird or a> > mouse, for the> > hell of it. See if it was that easy.> > > > > > > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
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From fluke1 at live.co.uk  Tue Nov  4 12:51:30 2008
From: fluke1 at live.co.uk (fluke fluke)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 17:51:30 +0000
Subject: [kj] This works.........
Message-ID: <BLU108-W3630EF59E90A9B9B3BB51BBE1C0@phx.gbl>


 
 
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=FWFKHM2zVKQ
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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From killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com  Tue Nov  4 12:55:41 2008
From: killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com (The Exorcist)
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 12:55:41 -0500
Subject: [kj] (OT) The Official US Election Thread
In-Reply-To: <26978.203.185.215.144.1225818699.squirrel@www.webmail.orco
	n.net.nz>
References: <BD60B2A89D16094897629D4CCC50B1CB3A4820@ED01VN01.NCL-HIS.NHS.UK>
	<COL109-W58FCEC903D3E5F8C582D96ED1C0@phx.gbl>
	<26978.203.185.215.144.1225818699.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz>
Message-ID: <0K9T00AW5LSXEX81@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>

Whatever happened to pulling straws? Things were much simpler. :)
*sigh*

At 12:11 PM 11/4/2008, Brendan wrote:
>You'd think the long lines etc would be good for Ole Crusty and not so
>good for the Young Feller...seeing as he's counting on support from young
>ppl and previously uninterested voters.
>
>I suppose it IS a massive operation, but fuck's sake, you'd think with God
>knows how many centuries practice they'd have polling under control by
>now...
>
> >
> > I wonder what the Electoral college will 'make' of the turn out in voters?
> > ;["
> >
> > Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 12:07:57 +0000From: Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.ukTo:
> > gathering at misera.netSubject: [kj] (OT) The Official US Election Thread
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > This is a site well worth keeping an eye on . . .
> >
> > http://blog.ourvotelive.org/
> >
> > Some scary stuff on there already
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _________________________________________________________________
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From bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net  Tue Nov  4 13:03:48 2008
From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net (B. Oliver Sheppard)
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 12:03:48 -0600
Subject: [kj] OT: LORDS OF THE NEW CHURCH
In-Reply-To: <4B4CC0857C854BA6885FE0177CFDDE04@Bell2007PC>
References: <860257.69884.qm@web23205.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
	<4B4CC0857C854BA6885FE0177CFDDE04@Bell2007PC>
Message-ID: <49108E84.2050008@sbcglobal.net>


This didn't look like a boring Lords show:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9Whp5TvNKE

But the version they play here sounds better than the final studio version.


-Oliver


TB wrote:
> "Sarah's Putrefying Kunt" wrote:
>
>
>> Lords of the New Church were one of the most boring bands I've ever 
>> seen back in the eighties at Salisbury Arse Centre.
>




From bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net  Tue Nov  4 13:05:19 2008
From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net (B. Oliver Sheppard)
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 12:05:19 -0600
Subject: [kj] (OT) The Official US Election Thread
In-Reply-To: <FC77F6B8B2574E9C826BD6469D915F52@Bell2007PC>
References: <BD60B2A89D16094897629D4CCC50B1CB3A4820@ED01VN01.NCL-HIS.NHS.UK><COL109-W58FCEC903D3E5F8C582D96ED1C0@phx.gbl>	<26978.203.185.215.144.1225818699.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz>
	<FC77F6B8B2574E9C826BD6469D915F52@Bell2007PC>
Message-ID: <49108EDF.1070005@sbcglobal.net>

Here's the Sarah Palin rape kit commercial:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxCQpPCTjj8


It'd be funny if it weren't true.


-Oliver


From bq at soundgardener.co.nz  Tue Nov  4 13:22:32 2008
From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 07:22:32 +1300 (NZDT)
Subject: [kj] Mice
In-Reply-To: <BLU108-W3404917846C42371A0B8E9BE1C0@phx.gbl>
References: <51498.203.210.68.145.1225737694.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz>
	<784329.30457.qm@web23206.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
	<BLU108-W3404917846C42371A0B8E9BE1C0@phx.gbl>
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Hey Darth, welcome back.

>
>
>
>     They tend to go away because they are dead , rather than because of
> any realisation
>
>
>> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 15:08:54 +0000> From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk>
>> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: [kj] Mice> > If you have a mouse
>> infestation it is a good idea to kill them.> If they get killed they
>> tend to go away as they realise they are in a hostile environment.> > >
>> > > Try it. Opt out of giving a shit, then kill a bird or a> > mouse,
>> for the> > hell of it. See if it was that easy.> > > > > > >
>> _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list>
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From karen.weil at sddt.com  Tue Nov  4 13:25:14 2008
From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 10:25:14 -0800
Subject: [kj] (OT) The Official US Election Thread
References: <BD60B2A89D16094897629D4CCC50B1CB3A4820@ED01VN01.NCL-HIS.NHS.UK>
Message-ID: <EF23728B41F441DCA93BA4C8A9867D39@edweil>

Oh, ugh. Well, I'm keeping it positive! 
: )

k.w.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Phillipps Marc 
  To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 4:07 AM
  Subject: [kj] (OT) The Official US Election Thread




  This is a site well worth keeping an eye on . . . 



  http://blog.ourvotelive.org/



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From bbarathy at btinternet.com  Tue Nov  4 14:01:00 2008
From: bbarathy at btinternet.com (Bob Barathy)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 19:01:00 -0000
Subject: [kj] Plasticheadbutted
In-Reply-To: <0K9T00G9J7ZR68H0@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>
Message-ID: <LDEIJONOCOIOOPJOEADEGEMOCKAA.bbarathy@btinternet.com>

Don't hold your breath for an email reply. If the order goes wrong, they
don't wanna know in my experience.


  Have you contacted them? I'd love to see the reply.
  I've bought from them twice so far and it has been ok, but stuff like this
makes me a tad leery.

  When I purchased the "Live at the forum" discs I had one that was a bit
scratched, I contaced them
  and they send me a replacement disc right away. I guess some ppl. still
know what customer service is about.

  *shrug*

  At 07:13 AM 11/4/2008, Alexander Smith wrote:


    It's true -- if it were ANY OTHER DISC in their catalog, I'd have a
    use for it. Hell, even OUTSIDE THE GATE would be easier to pass off to
    someone.

    Ugh.

    Alex in NYC


    On Nov 4, 2008, at 5:54 AM, Phillipps Marc wrote:


        you'll not even be able to flog Courtald on ebay

      There is an international statute against that isn't there?

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From bbarathy at btinternet.com  Tue Nov  4 14:00:59 2008
From: bbarathy at btinternet.com (Bob Barathy)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 19:00:59 -0000
Subject: [kj] Plasticheadbutted
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You can never own too many copies ;-)



See, though, here's the thing:   I ALREADY OWNED IT.

Alex in NYC


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From karen.weil at sddt.com  Tue Nov  4 14:06:18 2008
From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 11:06:18 -0800
Subject: [kj] (OT) The Official US Election Thread
References: <BD60B2A89D16094897629D4CCC50B1CB3A4820@ED01VN01.NCL-HIS.NHS.UK><COL109-W58FCEC903D3E5F8C582D96ED1C0@phx.gbl><26978.203.185.215.144.1225818699.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz>
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Yos, you so have a point there! 
Happy Voting Day! 

k. 
Calif.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: The Exorcist 
  To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 9:55 AM
  Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) The Official US Election Thread


  Whatever happened to pulling straws? Things were much simpler. :)
  *sigh*

  At 12:11 PM 11/4/2008, Brendan wrote:

    You'd think the long lines etc would be good for Ole Crusty and not so
    good for the Young Feller...seeing as he's counting on support from young
    ppl and previously uninterested voters.

    I suppose it IS a massive operation, but fuck's sake, you'd think with God
    knows how many centuries practice they'd have polling under control by
    now...

    >
    > I wonder what the Electoral college will 'make' of the turn out in voters?
    > ;["
    >
    > Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 12:07:57 +0000From: Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.ukTo:
    > gathering at misera.netSubject: [kj] (OT) The Official US Election Thread
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > This is a site well worth keeping an eye on . . .
    >
    > http://blog.ourvotelive.org/
    >
    > Some scary stuff on there already
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > _________________________________________________________________
    > Store, manage and share up to 5GB with Windows Live SkyDrive.
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From LONESTYLE at aol.com  Tue Nov  4 14:12:52 2008
From: LONESTYLE at aol.com (LONESTYLE at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:12:52 EST
Subject: [kj] (OT) The Official US Election Thread
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Being an American I am a bit fed up with all these voting glitches and what  
not!  It is fuckin BULLSHIT! 
 
Didn't we learn anything the first time around with Gore & Bush in  2000? 
 
~ LB
 
 
In a message dated 11/4/2008 4:08:18 AM Pacific Standard Time,  
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This is a site well worth keeping  an eye on . . .  
_http://blog.ourvotelive.org/_ (http://blog.ourvotelive.org/)  
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From saulomar1 at yahoo.com  Tue Nov  4 14:14:51 2008
From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com (sade1)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 11:14:51 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [kj] (OT) The Official US Election Thread
References: <BD60B2A89D16094897629D4CCC50B1CB3A4820@ED01VN01.NCL-HIS.NHS.UK>
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> well worth keeping an eye on . . . 

?? No sign there of the recent?white-supremacist/"Clockwork Orange" [guys in white tuxedos, 
with Top hats,etc.] attempt to?hurt Obama and?as many blacks as they can 
get to.
?? The cops here in Los Angeles are on edge, tho'.
??


... ... ... ... ... ... 

[looking at the current?state of things..]
?
'Save me...
? save me?from Tomorrow..
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To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2008 4:07:57 AM
Subject: [kj] (OT) The Official US Election Thread


?
This is a site well worth keeping an eye on . . . 
?
http://blog.ourvotelive.org/
?
Some scary stuff on there already 


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From circusbar at uol.com.br  Tue Nov  4 14:24:08 2008
From: circusbar at uol.com.br (Jokers)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 17:24:08 -0200
Subject: [kj] Plasticheadbutted
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hey Alex,

did they send you the "Ultimate Remastered Version" of Courtald Talks???

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From saulomar1 at yahoo.com  Tue Nov  4 14:31:42 2008
From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com (sade1)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 11:31:42 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [kj] Plasticheadbutted
References: <LDEIJONOCOIOOPJOEADEEEMOCKAA.bbarathy@btinternet.com>
	<026d01c93eb2$ed3cb7d0$1201010a@jokers>
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> did they send you the "Ultimate Remastered Version".. 


Or worse, the "Live Bootleg Version."

?
... ... ... ... ... ... 

[looking at the current?state of things..]
?
'Save me...
? save me?from Tomorrow..
??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? 





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hey Alex,
?
did they send you the "Ultimate Remastered Version" of Courtald Talks???
?
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From partyslammer at socal.rr.com  Tue Nov  4 14:37:40 2008
From: partyslammer at socal.rr.com (TB)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 11:37:40 -0800
Subject: [kj] (OT) The Official US Election Thread
In-Reply-To: <186771.31678.qm@web52609.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <BD60B2A89D16094897629D4CCC50B1CB3A4820@ED01VN01.NCL-HIS.NHS.UK>
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"sade1" wrote:


> well worth keeping an eye on . . .

No sign there of the recent white-supremacist/"Clockwork Orange" [guys in 
white tuxedos,
with Top hats,etc.] attempt to hurt Obama and as many blacks as they can
get to.
The cops here in Los Angeles are on edge, tho'.

+++++++

Unless Obama loses, which is very unlikely, law enforcement in LA and the 
rest of the country have little to nothing to worry about.  I very much 
doubt you'll see thousands of angry Republicans burning down their 
neighborhoods if McCain loses.

T.B. 


From folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com  Tue Nov  4 14:44:22 2008
From: folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com (folk devil)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 11:44:22 -0800
Subject: [kj] (OT) The Official US Election Thread
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and if McCain wins...
"> From: partyslammer at socal.rr.com> To: gathering at misera.net> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 11:37:40 -0800> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) The Official US Election Thread> > +++++++> > Unless Obama loses, which is very unlikely, law enforcement in LA and the > rest of the country have little to nothing to worry about. I very much > doubt you'll see thousands of angry Republicans burning down their > neighborhoods if McCain loses.> > T.B. > > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
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From bq at soundgardener.co.nz  Tue Nov  4 14:51:48 2008
From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 08:51:48 +1300 (NZDT)
Subject: [kj] Plasticheadbutted
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Yeah the earlier ones become THE ELDER ONES, and the ones you forget about
become THE FORGOTTEN ONES...

Hahahaha :)

> You can never own too many copies ;-)
>
>
>
> See, though, here's the thing:   I ALREADY OWNED IT.
>
> Alex in NYC
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From bq at soundgardener.co.nz  Tue Nov  4 14:53:20 2008
From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 08:53:20 +1300 (NZDT)
Subject: [kj] (OT) The Official US Election Thread
In-Reply-To: <186771.31678.qm@web52609.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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Wouldn't being a white supremacist in places like LA etc be a bit
suicidal? I thought that was mainly the southern whiter states?

>> well worth keeping an eye on . . .
>
> ?? No sign there of the recent?white-supremacist/"Clockwork Orange" [guys
> in white tuxedos,
> with Top hats,etc.] attempt to?hurt Obama and?as many blacks as they can
> get to.
> ?? The cops here in Los Angeles are on edge, tho'.
> ??
>
>
> ... ... ... ... ... ...
>
> [looking at the current?state of things..]
> ?
> 'Save me...
> ? save me?from Tomorrow..
> ??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'??
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Phillipps Marc <Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk>
> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
> <gathering at misera.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2008 4:07:57 AM
> Subject: [kj] (OT) The Official US Election Thread
>
>
> ?
> This is a site well worth keeping an eye on . . .
> ?
> http://blog.ourvotelive.org/
> ?
> Some scary stuff on there already
>
>
> ?
> ?
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From killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com  Tue Nov  4 14:54:53 2008
From: killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com (The Exorcist)
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:54:53 -0500
Subject: [kj] (OT) The Official US Election Thread
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Agreed this is a massive fuckup. How can you do not do testing to 
make sure everything is all right.
They've had eons to get it fixed! I came across an article that said 
that quite a few counties are going
back to paper ballots (Which I like).

But it's really fucking pathetic.

At 02:12 PM 11/4/2008, LONESTYLE at aol.com wrote:
>Being an American I am a bit fed up with all these voting glitches 
>and what not!  It is fuckin BULLSHIT!
>
>Didn't we learn anything the first time around with Gore & Bush in 2000?
>
>~ LB
>
>
>In a message dated 11/4/2008 4:08:18 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
>Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk writes:
>
>
>
>This is a site well worth keeping an eye on . . .
>
>
>
><http://blog.ourvotelive.org/>http://blog.ourvotelive.org/
>
>
>
>Some scary stuff on there already
>
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>
>
>
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From killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com  Tue Nov  4 14:55:35 2008
From: killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com (The Exorcist)
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:55:35 -0500
Subject: [kj] Plasticheadbutted
In-Reply-To: <026d01c93eb2$ed3cb7d0$1201010a@jokers>
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ROFL!

At 02:24 PM 11/4/2008, Jokers wrote:
>hey Alex,
>
>did they send you the "Ultimate Remastered Version" of Courtald Talks???
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From partyslammer at socal.rr.com  Tue Nov  4 14:59:57 2008
From: partyslammer at socal.rr.com (TB)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 11:59:57 -0800
Subject: [kj] (OT) The Official US Election Thread
In-Reply-To: <COL109-W674522AC58CC805AC0AB2BED1C0@phx.gbl>
References: <BD60B2A89D16094897629D4CCC50B1CB3A4820@ED01VN01.NCL-HIS.NHS.UK><186771.31678.qm@web52609.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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"folk devil" wrote:

>  and if McCain wins...

I'd honestly expect something very close to if not outright urban civil war 
in many major cities like LA, Chicago, Miami and NYC.

T.B. 


From karen.weil at sddt.com  Tue Nov  4 15:03:12 2008
From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 12:03:12 -0800
Subject: [kj] (OT) The Official US Election Thread
References: <c34.462cb515.3641f8b4@aol.com>
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Same here, Yos! I actually voted early, because I would be ensured of a paper ballot!  : )

k.w.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: The Exorcist 
  To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 11:54 AM
  Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) The Official US Election Thread


  Agreed this is a massive fuckup. How can you do not do testing to make sure everything is all right.
  They've had eons to get it fixed! I came across an article that said that quite a few counties are going 
  back to paper ballots (Which I like). 

  But it's really fucking pathetic.

  At 02:12 PM 11/4/2008, LONESTYLE at aol.com wrote:

    Being an American I am a bit fed up with all these voting glitches and what not!  It is fuckin BULLSHIT! 
     
    Didn't we learn anything the first time around with Gore & Bush in 2000? 
     
    ~ LB
     
     
    In a message dated 11/4/2008 4:08:18 AM Pacific Standard Time, Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk writes:






      This is a site well worth keeping an eye on . . . 





      http://blog.ourvotelive.org/





      Some scary stuff on there already 











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From saulomar1 at yahoo.com  Tue Nov  4 15:05:04 2008
From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com (sade1)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 12:05:04 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [kj] (OT) The Official US Election Thread
References: <BD60B2A89D16094897629D4CCC50B1CB3A4820@ED01VN01.NCL-HIS.NHS.UK>
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> have little to nothing to worry about.? 

? Yeah if Obama loses, yes, rioting is?guaranteed, but from what 
i've been seeing/reading is that, he doesn't have to even lose for 
unrest to (maybe) happen, it?all just has to?start looking dubious, 
deviant,etc. like it's about to be stolen or tweaked?away from an 
Obama win:???http://www.truthout.org/article/102308C

After all, this is L.A. and my cousin the "Fed" 
can't wait for this day to end.



... ... ... ... ... ... 

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?
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? save me?from Tomorrow..
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From: TB <partyslammer at socal.rr.com>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2008 11:37:40 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) The Official US Election Thread

"sade1" wrote:


> well worth keeping an eye on . . .

No sign there of the recent white-supremacist/"Clockwork Orange" [guys in white tuxedos,
with Top hats,etc.] attempt to hurt Obama and as many blacks as they can
get to.
The cops here in Los Angeles are on edge, tho'.

+++++++

Unless Obama loses, which is very unlikely, law enforcement in LA and the rest of the country have little to nothing to worry about.? I very much doubt you'll see thousands of angry Republicans burning down their neighborhoods if McCain loses.

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From karen.weil at sddt.com  Tue Nov  4 15:07:13 2008
From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 12:07:13 -0800
Subject: [kj] (OT) The Official US Election Thread
References: <BD60B2A89D16094897629D4CCC50B1CB3A4820@ED01VN01.NCL-HIS.NHS.UK><186771.31678.qm@web52609.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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TB: Don't agree with you about how people will react if Obama loses (and that is a very real possiblity, BTW).
And while they were indeed only a minority, does anybody remember how some GOPers acted in the wake the 2000 debacle? 
Let's just hope everyone acts in a civilized, decent manner. 
We still can do that as Americans, at least.

k.w.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
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  To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 11:44 AM
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  and if McCain wins...
  "

  > From: partyslammer at socal.rr.com
  > To: gathering at misera.net
  > Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 11:37:40 -0800
  > Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) The Official US Election Thread

  > 
  > +++++++
  > 
  > Unless Obama loses, which is very unlikely, law enforcement in LA and the 
  > rest of the country have little to nothing to worry about. I very much 
  > doubt you'll see thousands of angry Republicans burning down their 
  > neighborhoods if McCain loses.
  > 
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From saulomar1 at yahoo.com  Tue Nov  4 15:09:30 2008
From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com (sade1)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 12:09:30 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [kj] (OT) The Official US Election Thread
References: <BD60B2A89D16094897629D4CCC50B1CB3A4820@ED01VN01.NCL-HIS.NHS.UK>
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? Ironically, tho' whites are a minority in Los Angeles, the white-supremacist presence is 
still visible and makes the local news here with regularity. The areas where they tend?to live?
(in general)?are only about 10 minutes from the city center, meaning, within L.A. itself.?That 
said, there's also Black raci'*erm* "Nationalists" living throughout the south side of L.A.


In?lighter news, we got us some rain here! 

... ... ... ... ... ... 

[looking at the current?state of things..]
?
'Save me...
? save me?from Tomorrow..
??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? 





________________________________
From: Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2008 11:53:20 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) The Official US Election Thread

Wouldn't being a white supremacist in places like LA etc be a bit
suicidal? I thought that was mainly the southern whiter states?

>> well worth keeping an eye on . . .
>
> ?? No sign there of the recent?white-supremacist/"Clockwork Orange" [guys
> in white tuxedos,
> with Top hats,etc.] attempt to?hurt Obama and?as many blacks as they can
> get to.
> ?? The cops here in Los Angeles are on edge, tho'.
> ??
>
>
> ... ... ... ... ... ...
>
> [looking at the current?state of things..]
> ?
> 'Save me...
> ? save me?from Tomorrow..
> ??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'??
>
>
>
>
>
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>
> ?
> This is a site well worth keeping an eye on . . .
> ?
> http://blog.ourvotelive.org/
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> Some scary stuff on there already
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From bq at soundgardener.co.nz  Tue Nov  4 15:09:54 2008
From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 09:09:54 +1300 (NZDT)
Subject: [kj] Plasticheadbutted
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Just an idea, if they are that bad, why don't we do a spam out to them
telling them so? Getting 20-30 individual emails within a few days about
their $hit service might prompt some sort of response? Also an idea to
boycott them until they improve...

> ROFL!
>
> At 02:24 PM 11/4/2008, Jokers wrote:
>>hey Alex,
>>
>>did they send you the "Ultimate Remastered Version" of Courtald Talks???
>>
>>d i a z
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From partyslammer at socal.rr.com  Tue Nov  4 15:11:58 2008
From: partyslammer at socal.rr.com (TB)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 12:11:58 -0800
Subject: [kj] (OT) The Official US Election Thread
In-Reply-To: <37017.203.185.215.144.1225828400.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz>
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"Brendan" wrote:


Wouldn't being a white supremacist in places like LA etc be a bit
suicidal? I thought that was mainly the southern whiter states?

++++++++

There's a relatively small contingent of skinhead neo-Nazi supporters who 
mostly live in inland Southern California, but you'd be lucky to fill a bus 
or two with all of  the truly hardcore.  The traditional "white supremacist" 
movements including the KKK are mostly based in the deep South like parts of 
Florida, Alabama and Mississippi.  While I wouldn't marginalize their 
continued presence in this country, the "movement" is nothing like it was 
through the Great Depression or even in the early 60's and groups like the 
KKK are regarded as a sad old joke even by people who harbor significant 
minority racist feelings.

California, especially Southern CA centered around LA is actually more 
infested with Latino gang problems than anything else.

T.B. 


From bawhitehead at gmail.com  Tue Nov  4 15:32:17 2008
From: bawhitehead at gmail.com (Brian Whitehead)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 20:32:17 +0000
Subject: [kj] O/T Cure O2 gig
Message-ID: <7454a99b0811041232s44424418g220e17c75be5464e@mail.gmail.com>

Maybe some interest on the list?

Brian.

*THE CURE TO HEADLINE NME AWARDS BIG GIG*

*The Cure* are set to celebrate being crowned Godlike Geniuses at next
year's Shockwaves NME Awards by headlining the annual Big Gig on February
26th.

Fresh from glory at the previous night's *Shockwaves NME Awards* ceremony,
the band will make a short hop across the capital to take to the stage at
London's O2 arena.

Robert Smith said: "When *The Cure* play now we almost always play three
hours plus, taking songs from every era of the band's career. We'll have to
cut it down a bit for the Big Gig, but we'll still try to reflect what we've
done over the years... with maybe even a few surprises thrown in to make it
that bit more special!"

Tickets for the Shockwaves NME Awards Big Gig go on sale on Wednesday 5th
November at 9am and are available exclusively from
*www.nme.com/biggig*<http://zaphod.uk.vvhp.net/click/3876984-67327/zaphod.uk.vvhp.net/v-v/081104162859>until
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From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net (B. Oliver Sheppard)
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:32:15 -0600
Subject: [kj] (OT) The Official US Election Thread
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If Obama loses by a squeaker, I'll be out there as a part of the Civil 
War. On his (supporters') side. If Palin ever becomes president, good 
fucking God, I really will leave the US. The specter of President Palin 
is just insufferable.

-Oliver

TB wrote:
> "folk devil" wrote:
>
>>  and if McCain wins...
>
> I'd honestly expect something very close to if not outright urban 
> civil war in many major cities like LA, Chicago, Miami and NYC.
>
> T.B.
>
>


From bettedillinger at live.com  Tue Nov  4 15:54:16 2008
From: bettedillinger at live.com (Bette Dillinger)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 15:54:16 -0500
Subject: [kj] (OT) The Official US Election Thread
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Obama is the fortunate son.  Palin will have a Springer/Rush like talk show.......haaaaaa.....you betcha!  That woman wants ze attention!
 
Bette
> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:32:15 -0600> From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) The Official US Election Thread> > If Obama loses by a squeaker, I'll be out there as a part of the Civil > War. On his (supporters') side. If Palin ever becomes president, good > fucking God, I really will leave the US. The specter of President Palin > is just insufferable.> > -Oliver> > TB wrote:> > "folk devil" wrote:> >> >> and if McCain wins...> >> > I'd honestly expect something very close to if not outright urban > > civil war in many major cities like LA, Chicago, Miami and NYC.> >> > T.B.> >> >> > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
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From concrete_cookie at hotmail.com  Tue Nov  4 16:27:22 2008
From: concrete_cookie at hotmail.com (Concrete Cookie)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 13:27:22 -0800
Subject: [kj] (OT) The Official US Election Thread
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im guessing you already saw Homer voting on an electronic machine?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aBaX9GPSaQ

Stealing elections is easy...that I'm feeling a bit nauseous today.


k





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Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:12:52 -0500
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) The Official US Election Thread









Being an American I am a bit fed up with all these voting glitches and what 
not!  It is fuckin BULLSHIT! 
 
Didn't we learn anything the first time around with Gore & Bush in 
2000? 
 
~ LB
 
 
In a message dated 11/4/2008 4:08:18 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
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  This is a site well worth keeping 
  an eye on . . . 
   
  http://blog.ourvotelive.org/
   
  Some scary stuff on there already 
  
  


   
   
   
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From pssyche23 at hotmail.com  Tue Nov  4 17:38:17 2008
From: pssyche23 at hotmail.com (Antoni Adamiak)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 22:38:17 +0000
Subject: [kj] (OT) The Official US Election Thread
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A mate of mine sent me a text to say "Fox News is reporting Black Panthers are standing outside a Polling Station stopping white people from voting. No actual pictures of this !".
 
I strongly suspect this to be a joke, but if things get desperate for McCain (ie. say Jeb's henchmen don't quite spoil enough Obama votes in Florida), I would rule out such a broadcast !> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:32:15 -0600> From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) The Official US Election Thread> > If Obama loses by a squeaker, I'll be out there as a part of the Civil > War. On his (supporters') side. If Palin ever becomes president, good > fucking God, I really will leave the US. The specter of President Palin > is just insufferable.> > -Oliver> > TB wrote:> > "folk devil" wrote:> >> >> and if McCain wins...> >> > I'd honestly expect something very close to if not outright urban > > civil war in many major cities like LA, Chicago, Miami and NYC.> >> > T.B.> >> >> > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
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From pssyche23 at hotmail.com  Tue Nov  4 17:41:23 2008
From: pssyche23 at hotmail.com (Antoni Adamiak)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 22:41:23 +0000
Subject: [kj] (OT) The Official US Election Thread
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Doh ... I meant to say "I wouldn't rule out such a broadcast" !

From: pssyche23 at hotmail.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 22:38:17 +0000Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) The Official US Election Thread

 A mate of mine sent me a text to say "Fox News is reporting Black Panthers are standing outside a Polling Station stopping white people from voting. No actual pictures of this !". I strongly suspect this to be a joke, but if things get desperate for McCain (ie. say Jeb's henchmen don't quite spoil enough Obama votes in Florida), I would rule out such a broadcast !> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:32:15 -0600> From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) The Official US Election Thread> > If Obama loses by a squeaker, I'll be out there as a part of the Civil > War. On his (supporters') side. If Palin ever becomes president, good > fucking God, I really will leave the US. The specter of President Palin > is just insufferable.> > -Oliver> > TB wrote:> > "folk devil" wrote:> >> >> and if McCain wins...> >> > I'd honestly expect something very close to if not outright urban > > civil war in many major cities like LA, Chicago, Miami and NYC.> >> > T.B.> >> >> > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering

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From partyslammer at socal.rr.com  Tue Nov  4 18:15:55 2008
From: partyslammer at socal.rr.com (TB)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 15:15:55 -0800
Subject: [kj] (OT) The Official US Election Thread
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"Antoni Adamiak" wrote:

A mate of mine sent me a text to say "Fox News is reporting Black Panthers 
are standing outside a Polling Station stopping white people from voting. No 
actual pictures of this !".

I strongly suspect this to be a joke, but if things get desperate for McCain 
(ie. say Jeb's henchmen don't quite spoil enough Obama votes in Florida), I 
would rule out such a broadcast.

++++++++++

No joke.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neGbKHyGuHU

I understand these douchebags where "escorted" away from the polling place 
about 20 minutes after this was filmed and didn't actually prevent anyone 
from voting.

Still.....

T.B.



From jagargal at lycos.com  Tue Nov  4 17:08:19 2008
From: jagargal at lycos.com (Javier Garcia)
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 17:08:19 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [kj] [RE] Berlin PHOTOS - Happy Halloween (little late)
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From hollytree1961 at hotmail.com  Tue Nov  4 19:17:13 2008
From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com (melinda grant)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 00:17:13 +0000
Subject: [kj] (OT) The Official US lection-from a beidge person lol ;)
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i strongly suspect that to be bollocks ;)  --black pathers standing out side polling booths stopping white people from votIng---my ass---thats a bloody poor joke--because in the distant past there were white officials stoping black/brown/beige--people from voting FACT   :(    ok ok weres my sence of humour,i have loads but.... t "escorted" away from the polling place > about 20 minutes after this was filmed and didn't actually prevent anyone > from voting.> > Still.....> > T.B.> > > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
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From partyslammer at socal.rr.com  Tue Nov  4 19:48:33 2008
From: partyslammer at socal.rr.com (TB)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 16:48:33 -0800
Subject: [kj] (OT) The Official US lection-from a beidge person lol ;)
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"melinda grant" wrote:

i strongly suspect that to be bollocks ;)  --black pathers standing out side 
polling booths stopping white people from votIng---my ass---thats a bloody 
poor joke--because in the distant past there were white officials stoping 
black/brown/beige--people from voting FACT   :(    ok ok weres my sence of 
humour,i have loads but....

+++++++

I dunno if or how it could be a "joke" but from what I understand, they 
didn't "stop" anyone from voting but their presence was apparantly 
intimidating to some people.

T.B. 


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From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com (melinda grant)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 00:53:28 +0000
Subject: [kj] (OT) The Official US lection-from a beidge person lol ;)
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well of course i dissagre with that, irrespective of anyones colour no one should be denyied--or intimidated out of their right to vote,just wanted to add that point  ;)> From: partyslammer at socal.rr.com> To: gathering at misera.net> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 16:48:33 -0800> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) The Official US lection-from a beidge person lol ;)> > "melinda grant" wrote:> > i strongly suspect that to be bollocks ;) --black pathers standing out side > polling booths stopping white people from votIng---my ass---thats a bloody > poor joke--because in the distant past there were white officials stoping > black/brown/beige--people from voting FACT :( ok ok weres my sence of > humour,i have loads but....> > +++++++> > I dunno if or how it could be a "joke" but from what I understand, they > didn't "stop" anyone from voting but their presence was apparantly > intimidating to some people.> > T.B. > > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
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From saulomar1 at yahoo.com  Tue Nov  4 20:28:21 2008
From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com (sade1)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 17:28:21 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [kj] (OT) The Official US lection-from a beidge person lol ;)
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Someone should've?"Tazed" those guys and made a citizen's arrest and then posted the video.


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'Save me...
? save me?from Tomorrow..
??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? 





________________________________
From: TB <partyslammer at socal.rr.com>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2008 4:48:33 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) The Official US lection-from a beidge person lol ;)

"melinda grant" wrote:

i strongly suspect that to be bollocks ;)? --black pathers standing out side polling booths stopping white people from votIng---my ass---thats a bloody poor joke--because in the distant past there were white officials stoping black/brown/beige--people from voting FACT? :(? ? ok ok weres my sence of humour,i have loads but....

+++++++

I dunno if or how it could be a "joke" but from what I understand, they didn't "stop" anyone from voting but their presence was apparantly intimidating to some people.

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From hollytree1961 at hotmail.com  Tue Nov  4 20:49:45 2008
From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com (melinda grant)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 01:49:45 +0000
Subject: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this
Message-ID: <BLU120-W43AF3099AB5F674891180EB81F0@phx.gbl>


i wish i could be in the u.s.a for all this election feaver,i could not vote anyhow as i am british citizen and in u.k at mo---i have several great aunts and about 30 cousins spread over u.s.a they would have voted--i really hope obama gets in i really do or i predict a riot if he does not--if for instance he looses by a slight few votes ;(
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From partyslammer at socal.rr.com  Tue Nov  4 21:07:54 2008
From: partyslammer at socal.rr.com (TB)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 18:07:54 -0800
Subject: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this
In-Reply-To: <BLU120-W43AF3099AB5F674891180EB81F0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU120-W43AF3099AB5F674891180EB81F0@phx.gbl>
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"melinda grant" wrote:

i wish i could be in the u.s.a for all this election feaver,i could not vote 
anyhow as i am british citizen and in u.k at mo---i have several great aunts 
and about 30 cousins spread over u.s.a they would have voted--i really hope 
obama gets in i really do or i predict a riot if he does not--if for 
instance he looses by a slight few votes ;(

+++++++++

Already, Obama has 174 to McCains' measly 49 electoral votes (either 
candidate needs 270 or more to win).  The news broadcasts are practically 
chomping at the bit to call the race but aren't because polls don't close 
here on the West Coast for another two hours, plus they'll lose viewers. 
There is zero doubt Obama will win, and in fact it could be one of the 
biggest landslides in US history.

T.B. 


From a.tolksdorf at yahoo.co.uk  Tue Nov  4 21:11:20 2008
From: a.tolksdorf at yahoo.co.uk (Alexandra Tolksdorf)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 02:11:20 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this
In-Reply-To: <11275421C50246248A3C1172839C0A13@Bell2007PC>
Message-ID: <495008.95761.qm@web28601.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>

I can't sleep, I am so excited. Nervous. Worried. 
Good job I don't have to go to work tomorrow...eh...today!

~Alexandra.

--- On Wed, 5/11/08, TB <partyslammer at socal.rr.com> wrote:

From: TB <partyslammer at socal.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
Date: Wednesday, 5 November, 2008, 2:07 AM

"melinda grant" wrote:

i wish i could be in the u.s.a for all this election feaver,i could not vote 
anyhow as i am british citizen and in u.k at mo---i have several great aunts 
and about 30 cousins spread over u.s.a they would have voted--i really hope 
obama gets in i really do or i predict a riot if he does not--if for 
instance he looses by a slight few votes ;(

+++++++++

Already, Obama has 174 to McCains' measly 49 electoral votes (either 
candidate needs 270 or more to win).  The news broadcasts are practically 
chomping at the bit to call the race but aren't because polls don't
close 
here on the West Coast for another two hours, plus they'll lose viewers. 
There is zero doubt Obama will win, and in fact it could be one of the 
biggest landslides in US history.

T.B. 

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From karen.weil at sddt.com  Tue Nov  4 21:14:46 2008
From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 18:14:46 -0800
Subject: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this
References: <BLU120-W43AF3099AB5F674891180EB81F0@phx.gbl>
	<11275421C50246248A3C1172839C0A13@Bell2007PC>
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Howdy, TB:

Let's not get too carried away, yet . But I like your optimism, regardless!

k.w.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "TB" <partyslammer at socal.rr.com>
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
<gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this


> "melinda grant" wrote:
>
> i wish i could be in the u.s.a for all this election feaver,i could not 
> vote anyhow as i am british citizen and in u.k at mo---i have several 
> great aunts and about 30 cousins spread over u.s.a they would have 
> voted--i really hope obama gets in i really do or i predict a riot if he 
> does not--if for instance he looses by a slight few votes ;(
>
> +++++++++
>
> Already, Obama has 174 to McCains' measly 49 electoral votes (either 
> candidate needs 270 or more to win).  The news broadcasts are practically 
> chomping at the bit to call the race but aren't because polls don't close 
> here on the West Coast for another two hours, plus they'll lose viewers. 
> There is zero doubt Obama will win, and in fact it could be one of the 
> biggest landslides in US history.
>
> T.B.
> _______________________________________________
> Gathering mailing list
> Gathering at misera.net
> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
> 


From hollytree1961 at hotmail.com  Tue Nov  4 21:15:03 2008
From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com (melinda grant)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 02:15:03 +0000
Subject: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this
In-Reply-To: <11275421C50246248A3C1172839C0A13@Bell2007PC>
References: <BLU120-W43AF3099AB5F674891180EB81F0@phx.gbl>
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i saw on the news that some areas  were having difficulty in placing thier  votes because if they in one area for instance voted democratic,the voting system which is automatic system computerised type made the reading the opposite to what the voter wanted ;( have you herd anything about this? or is it just hot air !!!> From: partyslammer at socal.rr.com> To: gathering at misera.net> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 18:07:54 -0800> Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this> stem has redejestered there vote as republican ;( have you herd anything about this also> "melinda grant" wrote:> > i wish i could be in the u.s.a for all this election feaver,i could not vote > anyhow as i am british citizen and in u.k at mo---i have several great aunts > and about 30 cousins spread over u.s.a they would have voted--i really hope > obama gets in i really do or i predict a riot if he does not--if for > instance he looses by a slight few votes ;(> > +++++++++> > Already, Obama has 174 to McCains' measly 49 electoral votes (either > candidate needs 270 or more to win). The news broadcasts are practically > chomping at the bit to call the race but aren't because polls don't close > here on the West Coast for another two hours, plus they'll lose viewers. > There is zero doubt Obama will win, and in fact it could be one of the > biggest landslides in US history.> > T.B. > > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
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From saulomar1 at yahoo.com  Tue Nov  4 21:35:06 2008
From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com (sade1)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 18:35:06 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this
References: <BLU120-W43AF3099AB5F674891180EB81F0@phx.gbl>
	<11275421C50246248A3C1172839C0A13@Bell2007PC>
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Message-ID: <222623.92485.qm@web52607.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

> Let's not get too carried away.. 

I will. ;)

John McCain lost Pennsylvania, John McCain lost Ohio: John McCain lost.? Obama is President.



... ... ... ... ... ... 

[looking at the current?state of things..]
?
'Save me...
? save me?from Tomorrow..
??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? 





________________________________
From: Karen Weil <karen.weil at sddt.com>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2008 6:14:46 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this

Howdy, TB:

Let's not get too carried away, yet . But I like your optimism, regardless!

k.w.


----- Original Message ----- From: "TB" <partyslammer at socal.rr.com>
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this


> "melinda grant" wrote:
> 
> i wish i could be in the u.s.a for all this election feaver,i could not vote anyhow as i am british citizen and in u.k at mo---i have several great aunts and about 30 cousins spread over u.s.a they would have voted--i really hope obama gets in i really do or i predict a riot if he does not--if for instance he looses by a slight few votes ;(
> 
> +++++++++
> 
> Already, Obama has 174 to McCains' measly 49 electoral votes (either candidate needs 270 or more to win).? The news broadcasts are practically chomping at the bit to call the race but aren't because polls don't close here on the West Coast for another two hours, plus they'll lose viewers. There is zero doubt Obama will win, and in fact it could be one of the biggest landslides in US history.
> 
> T.B.
> _______________________________________________
> Gathering mailing list
> Gathering at misera.net
> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
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From hollytree1961 at hotmail.com  Tue Nov  4 21:43:32 2008
From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com (melinda grant)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 02:43:32 +0000
Subject: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this
In-Reply-To: <222623.92485.qm@web52607.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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obama just got ---mexico city---knew i  ;D)))))

Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 18:35:06 -0800From: saulomar1 at yahoo.comTo: gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this




> Let's not get too carried away.. 
 
I will. ;)
 
John McCain lost Pennsylvania, John McCain lost Ohio: John McCain lost.  Obama is President.
 
 
 
... ... ... ... ... ... 
[looking at the current state of things..]
 
'Save me...
  save me from Tomorrow..
    I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'   
 




From: Karen Weil <karen.weil at sddt.com>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2008 6:14:46 PMSubject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 thisHowdy, TB:Let's not get too carried away, yet . But I like your optimism, regardless!k.w.----- Original Message ----- From: "TB" <partyslammer at socal.rr.com>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 6:07 PMSubject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this> "melinda grant" wrote:> > i wish i could be in the u.s.a for all this election feaver,i could not vote anyhow as i am british citizen and in u.k at mo---i have several great aunts and about 30 cousins spread over u.s.a they would have voted--i really hope obama gets in i really do or i predict a riot if he does not--if for instance he looses by a slight few votes ;(> > +++++++++> > Already, Obama has 174 to McCains' measly 49 electoral votes (either candidate needs 270 or more to win).  The news broadcasts are practically chomping at the bit to call the race but aren't because polls don't close here on the West Coast for another two hours, plus they'll lose viewers. There is zero doubt Obama will win, and in fact it could be one of the biggest landslides in US history.> > T.B.> _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering> _______________________________________________Gathering mailing listGathering at misera.nethttp://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
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From hollytree1961 at hotmail.com  Tue Nov  4 21:45:57 2008
From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com (melinda grant)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 02:45:57 +0000
Subject: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this
In-Reply-To: <BLU120-W41A9F9FAE6415D2B804448B81F0@phx.gbl>
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Message-ID: <BLU120-W9521CF87E2466C6130EEDB81F0@phx.gbl>


knew i could rely on the mexicans ;D

From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 02:43:32 +0000Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this

obama just got ---mexico city---knew i  ;D)))))

Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 18:35:06 -0800From: saulomar1 at yahoo.comTo: gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this




> Let's not get too carried away.. 
 
I will. ;)
 
John McCain lost Pennsylvania, John McCain lost Ohio: John McCain lost.  Obama is President.
 
 
 
... ... ... ... ... ... 
[looking at the current state of things..]
 
'Save me...
  save me from Tomorrow..
    I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'   
 




From: Karen Weil <karen.weil at sddt.com>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2008 6:14:46 PMSubject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 thisHowdy, TB:Let's not get too carried away, yet . But I like your optimism, regardless!k.w.----- Original Message ----- From: "TB" <partyslammer at socal.rr.com>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 6:07 PMSubject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this> "melinda grant" wrote:> > i wish i could be in the u.s.a for all this election feaver,i could not vote anyhow as i am british citizen and in u.k at mo---i have several great aunts and about 30 cousins spread over u.s.a they would have voted--i really hope obama gets in i really do or i predict a riot if he does not--if for instance he looses by a slight few votes ;(> > +++++++++> > Already, Obama has 174 to McCains' measly 49 electoral votes (either candidate needs 270 or more to win).  The news broadcasts are practically chomping at the bit to call the race but aren't because polls don't close here on the West Coast for another two hours, plus they'll lose viewers. There is zero doubt Obama will win, and in fact it could be one of the biggest landslides in US history.> > T.B.> _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering> _______________________________________________Gathering mailing listGathering at misera.nethttp://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering

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From saulomar1 at yahoo.com  Tue Nov  4 22:02:55 2008
From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com (sade1)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 19:02:55 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this
References: <BLU120-W43AF3099AB5F674891180EB81F0@phx.gbl>
	<11275421C50246248A3C1172839C0A13@Bell2007PC>
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Message-ID: <270214.13995.qm@web52602.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Yeah, but John McCain got London.? 8P


?
... ... ... ... ... ... 

[looking at the current?state of things..]
?
'Save me...
? save me?from Tomorrow..
??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? 





________________________________
From: melinda grant <hollytree1961 at hotmail.com>
To: thegathering mailing list <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2008 6:45:57 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this


knew i could rely on the mexicans ;D
________________________________
From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 02:43:32 +0000
Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this

obama just got ---mexico city---knew i? ;D)))))
________________________________
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 18:35:06 -0800
From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this


> Let's not get too carried away.. 

I will. ;)

John McCain lost Pennsylvania, John McCain lost Ohio: John McCain lost.? Obama is President.



... ... ... ... ... ... 

[looking at the current?state of things..]
?
'Save me...
? save me?from Tomorrow..
??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? 





________________________________
From: Karen Weil <karen.weil at sddt.com>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2008 6:14:46 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this

Howdy, TB:

Let's not get too carried away, yet . But I like your optimism, regardless!

k.w.


----- Original Message ----- From: "TB" <partyslammer at socal.rr.com>
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this


> "melinda grant" wrote:
> 
> i wish i could be in the u.s.a for all this election feaver,i could not vote anyhow as i am british citizen and in u.k at mo---i have several great aunts and about 30 cousins spread over u.s.a they would have voted--i really hope obama gets in i really do or i predict a riot if he does not--if for instance he looses by a slight few votes ;(
> 
> +++++++++
> 
> Already, Obama has 174 to McCains' measly 49 electoral votes (either candidate needs 270 or more to win).? The news broadcasts are practically chomping at the bit to call the race but aren't because polls don't close here on the West Coast for another two hours, plus they'll lose viewers. There is zero doubt Obama will win, and in fact it could be one of the biggest landslides in US history.
> 
> T.B.
> _______________________________________________
> Gathering mailing list
> Gathering at misera.net
> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
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From hollytree1961 at hotmail.com  Tue Nov  4 22:04:14 2008
From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com (melinda grant)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 03:04:14 +0000
Subject: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this
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LOL LOL hay you knew i ment new mexico just testing yee all ;D)))

Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 19:02:55 -0800From: saulomar1 at yahoo.comTo: gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this




Yeah, but John McCain got London.  8P
 
 
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'Save me...
  save me from Tomorrow..
    I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'   
 




From: melinda grant <hollytree1961 at hotmail.com>To: thegathering mailing list <gathering at misera.net>Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2008 6:45:57 PMSubject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this

knew i could rely on the mexicans ;D

From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 02:43:32 +0000Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this

obama just got ---mexico city---knew i  ;D)))))

Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 18:35:06 -0800From: saulomar1 at yahoo.comTo: gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this




> Let's not get too carried away.. 
 
I will. ;)
 
John McCain lost Pennsylvania, John McCain lost Ohio: John McCain lost.  Obama is President.
 
 
 
... ... ... ... ... ... 
[looking at the current state of things..]
 
'Save me...
  save me from Tomorrow..
    I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'   
 




From: Karen Weil <karen.weil at sddt.com>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2008 6:14:46 PMSubject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 thisHowdy, TB:Let's not get too carried away, yet . But I like your optimism, regardless!k.w.----- Original Message ----- From: "TB" <partyslammer at socal.rr.com>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 6:07 PMSubject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this> "melinda grant" wrote:> > i wish i could be in the u.s.a for all this election feaver,i could not vote anyhow as i am british citizen and in u.k at mo---i have several great aunts and about 30 cousins spread over u.s.a they would have voted--i really hope obama gets in i really do or i predict a riot if he does not--if for instance he looses by a slight few votes ;(> > +++++++++> > Already, Obama has 174 to McCains' measly 49 electoral votes (either candidate needs 270 or more to win).  The news broadcasts are practically chomping at the bit to call the race but aren't because polls don't close here on the West Coast for another two hours, plus they'll lose viewers. There is zero doubt Obama will win, and in fact it could be one of the biggest landslides in US history.> > T.B.> _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering> _______________________________________________Gathering mailing listGathering at misera.nethttp://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering

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From hollytree1961 at hotmail.com  Tue Nov  4 22:12:02 2008
From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com (melinda grant)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 03:12:02 +0000
Subject: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this
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wheres the rest of the usa gatherers?

From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 03:04:14 +0000Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this

LOL LOL hay you knew i ment new mexico just testing yee all ;D)))

Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 19:02:55 -0800From: saulomar1 at yahoo.comTo: gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this




Yeah, but John McCain got London.  8P
 
 
... ... ... ... ... ... 
[looking at the current state of things..]
 
'Save me...
  save me from Tomorrow..
    I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'   
 




From: melinda grant <hollytree1961 at hotmail.com>To: thegathering mailing list <gathering at misera.net>Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2008 6:45:57 PMSubject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this

knew i could rely on the mexicans ;D

From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 02:43:32 +0000Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this

obama just got ---mexico city---knew i  ;D)))))

Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 18:35:06 -0800From: saulomar1 at yahoo.comTo: gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this




> Let's not get too carried away.. 
 
I will. ;)
 
John McCain lost Pennsylvania, John McCain lost Ohio: John McCain lost.  Obama is President.
 
 
 
... ... ... ... ... ... 
[looking at the current state of things..]
 
'Save me...
  save me from Tomorrow..
    I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'   
 




From: Karen Weil <karen.weil at sddt.com>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2008 6:14:46 PMSubject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 thisHowdy, TB:Let's not get too carried away, yet . But I like your optimism, regardless!k.w.----- Original Message ----- From: "TB" <partyslammer at socal.rr.com>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 6:07 PMSubject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this> "melinda grant" wrote:> > i wish i could be in the u.s.a for all this election feaver,i could not vote anyhow as i am british citizen and in u.k at mo---i have several great aunts and about 30 cousins spread over u.s.a they would have voted--i really hope obama gets in i really do or i predict a riot if he does not--if for instance he looses by a slight few votes ;(> > +++++++++> > Already, Obama has 174 to McCains' measly 49 electoral votes (either candidate needs 270 or more to win).  The news broadcasts are practically chomping at the bit to call the race but aren't because polls don't close here on the West Coast for another two hours, plus they'll lose viewers. There is zero doubt Obama will win, and in fact it could be one of the biggest landslides in US history.> > T.B.> _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering> _______________________________________________Gathering mailing listGathering at misera.nethttp://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering

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From saulomar1 at yahoo.com  Tue Nov  4 23:01:55 2008
From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com (sade1)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 20:01:55 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this
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ABC Network News just called it.?O'bama?is the next president.

Hail Caesar!
?

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?
'Save me...
? save me?from Tomorrow..
??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? 





________________________________
From: melinda grant <hollytree1961 at hotmail.com>
To: thegathering mailing list <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2008 7:12:02 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this

whe
res the rest of the usa gatherers?
________________________________
From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 03:04:14 +0000
Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this

LOL LOL hay you knew i ment new mexico just testing yee all ;D)))
________________________________
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 19:02:55 -0800
From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this


Yeah, but John McCain got London.? 8P


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[looking at the current?state of things..]
?
'Save me...
? save me?from Tomorrow..
??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? 





________________________________
From: melinda grant <hollytree1961 at hotmail.com>
To: thegathering mailing list <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2008 6:45:57 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this


knew i could rely on the mexicans ;D
________________________________
From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 02:43:32 +0000
Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this

obama just got ---mexico city---knew i? ;D)))))
________________________________
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 18:35:06 -0800
From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this


> Let's not get too carried away.. 

I will. ;)

John McCain lost Pennsylvania, John McCain lost Ohio: John McCain lost.? Obama is President.



... ... ... ... ... ... 

[looking at the current?state of things..]
?
'Save me...
? save me?from Tomorrow..
??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? 





________________________________
From: Karen Weil <karen.weil at sddt.com>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2008 6:14:46 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this

Howdy, TB:

Let's not get too carried away, yet . But I like your optimism, regardless!

k.w.


----- Original Message ----- From: "TB" <partyslammer at socal.rr.com>
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this


> "melinda grant" wrote:
> 
> i wish i could be in the u.s.a for all this election feaver,i could not vote anyhow as i am british citizen and in u.k at mo---i have several great aunts and about 30 cousins spread over u.s.a they would have voted--i really hope obama gets in i really do or i predict a riot if he does not--if for instance he looses by a slight few votes ;(
> 
> +++++++++
> 
> Already, Obama has 174 to McCains' measly 49 electoral votes (either candidate needs 270 or more to win).? The news broadcasts are practically chomping at the bit to call the race but aren't because polls don't close here on the West Coast for another two hours, plus they'll lose viewers. There is zero doubt Obama will win, and in fact it could be one of the biggest landslides in US history.
> 
> T.B.
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From hollytree1961 at hotmail.com  Tue Nov  4 23:03:14 2008
From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com (melinda grant)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 04:03:14 +0000
Subject: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d
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OBAMA HAS WON

From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 03:12:02 +0000Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this

wheres the rest of the usa gatherers?

From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 03:04:14 +0000Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this

LOL LOL hay you knew i ment new mexico just testing yee all ;D)))

Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 19:02:55 -0800From: saulomar1 at yahoo.comTo: gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this




Yeah, but John McCain got London.  8P
 
 
... ... ... ... ... ... 
[looking at the current state of things..]
 
'Save me...
  save me from Tomorrow..
    I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'   
 




From: melinda grant <hollytree1961 at hotmail.com>To: thegathering mailing list <gathering at misera.net>Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2008 6:45:57 PMSubject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this

knew i could rely on the mexicans ;D

From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 02:43:32 +0000Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this

obama just got ---mexico city---knew i  ;D)))))

Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 18:35:06 -0800From: saulomar1 at yahoo.comTo: gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this




> Let's not get too carried away.. 
 
I will. ;)
 
John McCain lost Pennsylvania, John McCain lost Ohio: John McCain lost.  Obama is President.
 
 
 
... ... ... ... ... ... 
[looking at the current state of things..]
 
'Save me...
  save me from Tomorrow..
    I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'   
 




From: Karen Weil <karen.weil at sddt.com>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2008 6:14:46 PMSubject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 thisHowdy, TB:Let's not get too carried away, yet . But I like your optimism, regardless!k.w.----- Original Message ----- From: "TB" <partyslammer at socal.rr.com>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 6:07 PMSubject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this> "melinda grant" wrote:> > i wish i could be in the u.s.a for all this election feaver,i could not vote anyhow as i am british citizen and in u.k at mo---i have several great aunts and about 30 cousins spread over u.s.a they would have voted--i really hope obama gets in i really do or i predict a riot if he does not--if for instance he looses by a slight few votes ;(> > +++++++++> > Already, Obama has 174 to McCains' measly 49 electoral votes (either candidate needs 270 or more to win).  The news broadcasts are practically chomping at the bit to call the race but aren't because polls don't close here on the West Coast for another two hours, plus they'll lose viewers. There is zero doubt Obama will win, and in fact it could be one of the biggest landslides in US history.> > T.B.> _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering> _______________________________________________Gathering mailing listGathering at misera.nethttp://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering

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From elana_mojica at yahoo.com  Tue Nov  4 23:08:53 2008
From: elana_mojica at yahoo.com (Elana Mojica)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 20:08:53 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this
Message-ID: <523321.9592.qm@web57308.mail.re1.yahoo.com>


I have tears of joy!!!!!!!!


Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 4, 2008, at 10:01 PM, sade1 <saulomar1 at yahoo.com> wrote:

ABC Network News just called it. O'bama is the next president.
 
Hail Caesar!
 
 
.... ... ... ... ... ...

[looking at the current state of things..]
 
'Save me...
  save me from Tomorrow..
    I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'  
 


From: melinda grant <hollytree1961 at hotmail.com>
To: thegathering mailing list <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2008 7:12:02 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s..a 4 this

whe
res the rest of the usa gatherers?
From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 03:04:14 +0000
Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this

LOL LOL hay you knew i ment new mexico just testing yee all ;D)))
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 19:02:55 -0800
From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this

Yeah, but John McCain got London.  8P
 

 
... ... ... ... ... ...

[looking at the current state of things..]
 
'Save me...
  save me from Tomorrow..
    I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'  
 


From: melinda grant <hollytree1961 at hotmail.com>
To: thegathering mailing list <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2008 6:45:57 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this


knew i could rely on the mexicans ;D
From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 02:43:32 +0000
Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this

obama just got ---mexico city---knew i  ;D)))))
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 18:35:06 -0800
From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this

> Let's not get too carried away..
 
I will. ;)
 
John McCain lost Pennsylvania, John McCain lost Ohio: John McCain lost.  Obama is President.
 
 
 
... ... ... ... ... ...

[looking at the current state of things..]
 
'Save me...
  save me from Tomorrow..
    I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'  
 


From: Karen Weil <karen.weil at sddt.com>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2008 6:14:46 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this

Howdy, TB:

Let's not get too carried away, yet . But I like your optimism, regardless!

k.w.


----- Original Message ----- From: "TB" <partyslammer at socal.rr.com>
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this


> "melinda grant" wrote:
> 
> i wish i could be in the u.s.a for all this election feaver,i could not vote anyhow as i am british citizen and in u.k at mo---i have several great aunts and about 30 cousins spread over u.s.a they would have voted--i really hope obama gets in i really do or i predict a riot if he does not--if for instance he looses by a slight few votes ;(
> 
> +++++++++
> 
> Already, Obama has 174 to McCains' measly 49 electoral votes (either candidate needs 270 or more to win).  The news broadcasts are practically chomping at the bit to call the race but aren't because polls don't close here on the West Coast for another two hours, plus they'll lose viewers. There is zero doubt Obama will win, and in fact it could be one of the biggest landslides in US history.
> 
> T.B.
> _______________________________________________
> Gathering mailing list
> Gathering at misera.net
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From elana_mojica at yahoo.com  Tue Nov  4 23:09:21 2008
From: elana_mojica at yahoo.com (Elana Mojica)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 20:09:21 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d
Message-ID: <114101.63333.qm@web57314.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

We've been glued to our televisions LOL

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 4, 2008, at 10:03 PM, melinda grant <hollytree1961 at hotmail.com> wrote:

OBAMA HAS WON

From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 03:12:02 +0000
Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this

whe
res the rest of the usa gatherers?
From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 03:04:14 +0000
Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this

LOL LOL hay you knew i ment new mexico just testing yee all ;D)))
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 19:02:55 -0800
From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this

Yeah, but John McCain got London.  8P
 

 
... ... ... ... ... ...

[looking at the current state of things..]
 
'Save me...
  save me from Tomorrow..
    I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'  
 


From: melinda grant <hollytree1961 at hotmail.com>
To: thegathering mailing list <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2008 6:45:57 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this


knew i could rely on the mexicans ;D
From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 02:43:32 +0000
Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this

obama just got ---mexico city---knew i  ;D)))))
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 18:35:06 -0800
From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this

> Let's not get too carried away..
 
I will. ;)
 
John McCain lost Pennsylvania, John McCain lost Ohio: John McCain lost.  Obama is President.
 
 
 
... ... ... ... ... ...

[looking at the current state of things..]
 
'Save me...
  save me from Tomorrow..
    I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'  
 


From: Karen Weil <karen.weil at sddt.com>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2008 6:14:46 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this

Howdy, TB:

Let's not get too carried away, yet . But I like your optimism, regardless!

k.w..


----- Original Message ----- From: "TB" <partyslammer at socal.rr.com>
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this


> "melinda grant" wrote:
> 
> i wish i could be in the u.s.a for all this election feaver,i could not vote anyhow as i am british citizen and in u.k at mo---i have several great aunts and about 30 cousins spread over u.s.a they would have voted--i really hope obama gets in i really do or i predict a riot if he does not--if for instance he looses by a slight few votes ;(
> 
> +++++++++
> 
> Already, Obama has 174 to McCains' measly 49 electoral votes (either candidate needs 270 or more to win).  The news broadcasts are practically chomping at the bit to call the race but aren't because polls don't close here on the West Coast for another two hours, plus they'll lose viewers. There is zero doubt Obama will win, and in fact it could be one of the biggest landslides in US history.
> 
> T.B.
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From a.tolksdorf at yahoo.co.uk  Tue Nov  4 23:11:00 2008
From: a.tolksdorf at yahoo.co.uk (Alexandra Tolksdorf)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 04:11:00 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this
In-Reply-To: <523321.9592.qm@web57308.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <331210.70696.qm@web28614.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>

me too 

~Alexandra.

--- On Wed, 5/11/08, Elana Mojica <elana_mojica at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Elana Mojica <elana_mojica at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
Date: Wednesday, 5 November, 2008, 4:08 AM




I have tears of joy!!!!!!!!



Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 4, 2008, at 10:01 PM, sade1 <saulomar1 at yahoo..com> wrote:







ABC Network News just called it.?O'bama?is the next president.
?
Hail Caesar!
?
?
... ... ... ... ... ... 

[looking at the current?state of things..]
?
'Save me...
? save me?from Tomorrow..
??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? 
?






From: melinda grant <hollytree1961 at hotmail.com>
To: thegathering mailing list <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2008 7:12:02 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this

whe
res the rest of the usa gatherers?


From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 03:04:14 +0000
Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this

LOL LOL hay you knew i ment new mexico just testing yee all ;D)))


Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 19:02:55 -0800
From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this




Yeah, but John McCain got London.? 8P
?

?
... ... ... ... ... ... 

[looking at the current?state of things..]
?
'Save me...
? save me?from Tomorrow..
??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? 
?






From: melinda grant <hollytree1961 at hotmail.com>
To: thegathering mailing list <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2008 6:45:57 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this


knew i could rely on the mexicans ;D


From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 02:43:32 +0000
Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this

obama just got ---mexico city---knew i? ;D)))))


Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 18:35:06 -0800
From: saulomar1 at yahoo..com
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this




> Let's not get too carried away.. 
?
I will. ;)
?
John McCain lost Pennsylvania, John McCain lost Ohio: John McCain lost.? Obama is President.
?
?
?
... ... ... ... ... .... 

[looking at the current?state of things..]
?
'Save me...
? save me?from Tomorrow..
??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? 
?






From: Karen Weil <karen.weil at sddt.com>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2008 6:14:46 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this

Howdy, TB:

Let's not get too carried away, yet . But I like your optimism, regardless!

k.w.


----- Original Message ----- From: "TB" <partyslammer at socal.rr.com>
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this


> "melinda grant" wrote:
> 
> i wish i could be in the u.s.a for all this election feaver,i could not vote anyhow as i am british citizen and in u.k at mo---i have several great aunts and about 30 cousins spread over u.s.a they would have voted--i really hope obama gets in i really do or i predict a riot if he does not--if for instance he looses by a slight few votes ;(
> 
> +++++++++
> 
> Already, Obama has 174 to McCains' measly 49 electoral votes (either candidate needs 270 or more to win).? The news broadcasts are practically chomping at the bit to call the race but aren't because polls don't close here on the West Coast for another two hours, plus they'll lose viewers. There is zero doubt Obama will win, and in fact it could be one of the biggest landslides in US history.
> 
> T.B.
> _______________________________________________
> Gathering mailing list
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From hollytree1961 at hotmail.com  Tue Nov  4 23:15:53 2008
From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com (melinda grant)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 04:15:53 +0000
Subject: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this
In-Reply-To: <331210.70696.qm@web28614.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
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	<331210.70696.qm@web28614.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BLU120-W24B804788645F26A1B55BBB81F0@phx.gbl>


ME AS WELL  teARS OF JOY LOL ;d)))

Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 04:11:00 +0000From: a.tolksdorf at yahoo.co.ukTo: gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this



me too ~Alexandra.--- On Wed, 5/11/08, Elana Mojica <elana_mojica at yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Elana Mojica <elana_mojica at yahoo.com>Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 thisTo: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>Date: Wednesday, 5 November, 2008, 4:08 AM

I have tears of joy!!!!!!!!

Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 4, 2008, at 10:01 PM, sade1 <saulomar1 at yahoo..com> wrote:





ABC Network News just called it. O'bama is the next president.
 
Hail Caesar!
 
 
... ... ... ... ... ... 
[looking at the current state of things..]
 
'Save me...
  save me from Tomorrow..
    I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'   
 




From: melinda grant <hollytree1961 at hotmail.com>To: thegathering mailing list <gathering at misera.net>Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2008 7:12:02 PMSubject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 thiswheres the rest of the usa gatherers?

From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 03:04:14 +0000Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 thisLOL LOL hay you knew i ment new mexico just testing yee all ;D)))

Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 19:02:55 -0800From: saulomar1 at yahoo.comTo: gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this


Yeah, but John McCain got London.  8P
 
 
... ... ... ... ... ... 
[looking at the current state of things..]
 
'Save me...
  save me from Tomorrow..
    I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'   
 




From: melinda grant <hollytree1961 at hotmail.com>To: thegathering mailing list <gathering at misera.net>Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2008 6:45:57 PMSubject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 thisknew i could rely on the mexicans ;D

From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 02:43:32 +0000Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 thisobama just got ---mexico city---knew i  ;D)))))

Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 18:35:06 -0800From: saulomar1 at yahoo..comTo: gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this


> Let's not get too carried away.. 
 
I will. ;)
 
John McCain lost Pennsylvania, John McCain lost Ohio: John McCain lost.  Obama is President.
 
 
 
... ... ... ... ... .... 
[looking at the current state of things..]
 
'Save me...
  save me from Tomorrow..
    I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'   
 




From: Karen Weil <karen.weil at sddt.com>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2008 6:14:46 PMSubject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 thisHowdy, TB:Let's not get too carried away, yet . But I like your optimism, regardless!k.w.----- Original Message ----- From: "TB" <partyslammer at socal.rr.com>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 6:07 PMSubject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this> "melinda grant" wrote:> > i wish i could be in the u.s.a for all this election feaver,i could not vote anyhow as i am british citizen and in u.k at mo---i have several great aunts and about 30 cousins spread over u.s.a they would have voted--i really hope obama gets in i really do or i predict a riot if he does not--if for instance he looses by a slight few votes ;(> > +++++++++> > Already, Obama has 174 to McCains' measly 49 electoral votes (either candidate needs 270 or more to win).  The news broadcasts are practically chomping at the bit to call the race but aren't because polls don't close here on the West Coast for another two hours, plus they'll lose viewers. There is zero doubt Obama will win, and in fact it could be one of the biggest landslides in US history.> > T.B.> _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering> _______________________________________________Gathering mailing listGathering at misera.nethttp://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering

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From saulomar1 at yahoo.com  Tue Nov  4 23:19:59 2008
From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com (sade1)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 20:19:59 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this
References: <331210.70696.qm@web28614.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <404891.26532.qm@web52611.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

"Forbidden was bidden..." We have joy!


?
... ... ... ... ... ... 

[looking at the current?state of things..]
?
'Save me...
? save me?from Tomorrow..
??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? 





________________________________
From: Alexandra Tolksdorf <a.tolksdorf at yahoo.co.uk>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2008 8:11:00 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this


me too 

~Alexandra.

--- On Wed, 5/11/08, Elana Mojica <elana_mojica at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Elana Mojica <elana_mojica at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
Date: Wednesday, 5 November, 2008, 4:08 AM



I have tears of joy!!!!!!!!


Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 4, 2008, at 10:01 PM, sade1 <saulomar1 at yahoo..com> wrote:


ABC Network News just called it.?O'bama?is the next president.

Hail Caesar!
?

... ... ... ... ... ... 

[looking at the current?state of things..]
?
'Save me...
? save me?from Tomorrow..
??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? 





________________________________
From: melinda grant <hollytree1961 at hotmail.com>
To: thegathering mailing list <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2008 7:12:02 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this

whe
res the rest of the usa gatherers?
________________________________
From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 03:04:14 +0000
Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this

LOL LOL hay you knew i ment new mexico just testing yee all ;D)))
________________________________
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 19:02:55 -0800
From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this


Yeah, but John McCain got London.? 8P


?
... ... ... ... ... ... 

[looking at the current?state of things..]
?
'Save me...
? save me?from Tomorrow..
??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? 





________________________________
From: melinda grant <hollytree1961 at hotmail.com>
To: thegathering mailing list <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2008 6:45:57 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this


knew i could rely on the mexicans ;D
________________________________
From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 02:43:32 +0000
Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this

obama just got ---mexico city---knew i? ;D)))))
________________________________
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 18:35:06 -0800
From: saulomar1 at yahoo..com
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this


> Let's not get too carried away.. 

I will. ;)

John McCain lost Pennsylvania, John McCain lost Ohio: John McCain lost.? Obama is President.



... ... ... ... ... .... 

[looking at the current?state of things..]
?
'Save me...
? save me?from Tomorrow..
??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? 





________________________________
From: Karen Weil <karen.weil at sddt.com>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2008 6:14:46 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this

Howdy, TB:

Let's not get too carried away, yet . But I like your optimism, regardless!

k.w.


----- Original Message ----- From: "TB" <partyslammer at socal.rr.com>
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this


> "melinda grant" wrote:
> 
> i wish i could be in the u.s.a for all this election feaver,i could not vote anyhow as i am british citizen and in u.k at mo---i have several great aunts and about 30 cousins spread over u.s.a they would have voted--i really hope obama gets in i really do or i predict a riot if he does not--if for instance he looses by a slight few votes ;(
> 
> +++++++++
> 
> Already, Obama has 174 to McCains' measly 49 electoral votes (either candidate needs 270 or more to win).? The news broadcasts are practically chomping at the bit to call the race but aren't because polls don't close here on the West Coast for another two hours, plus they'll lose viewers. There is zero doubt Obama will win, and in fact it could be one of the biggest landslides in US history.
> 
> T.B.
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From sandstorm_mg at yahoo.com  Tue Nov  4 23:39:40 2008
From: sandstorm_mg at yahoo.com (Michael Garcia)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 20:39:40 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d
References: <BLU120-W43AF3099AB5F674891180EB81F0@phx.gbl>
	<11275421C50246248A3C1172839C0A13@Bell2007PC>
	<F34523AE3C6A4C98A6560F67E401F22A@edweil>
	<222623.92485.qm@web52607.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<BLU120-W41A9F9FAE6415D2B804448B81F0@phx.gbl>
	<BLU120-W9521CF87E2466C6130EEDB81F0@phx.gbl>
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I think many of us here in the US who are interested in this are watching concession speeches and waiting for Oboma's acceptance speech. I am thrilled with the outcome. We still have a long way to go to undo a huge mess. That's as far as my political views will be expressed here. Off to celebrate!

Cheers

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________________________________
From: melinda grant <hollytree1961 at hotmail.com>
To: thegathering mailing list <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2008 8:03:14 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d

OBAMA HAS WON

________________________________
 From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 03:12:02 +0000
Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this

whe
res the rest of the usa gatherers?
________________________________
 From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 03:04:14 +0000
Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this

LOL LOL hay you knew i ment new mexico just testing yee all ;D)))
________________________________
 Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 19:02:55 -0800
From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this


Yeah, but John McCain got London.  8P
 

 
... ... ... ... ... ... 

[looking at the current state of things..]
  
'Save me...
  save me from Tomorrow..
    I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'   
 




________________________________
 From: melinda grant <hollytree1961 at hotmail.com>
To: thegathering mailing list <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2008 6:45:57 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this


knew i could rely on the mexicans ;D
________________________________
 From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 02:43:32 +0000
Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this

obama just got ---mexico city---knew i  ;D)))))
________________________________
 Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 18:35:06 -0800
From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this


> Let's not get too carried away.. 
 
I will. ;)
 
John McCain lost Pennsylvania, John McCain lost Ohio: John McCain lost.  Obama is President.
 
 
 
... ... ... ... ... ... 

[looking at the current state of things..]
  
'Save me...
  save me from Tomorrow..
    I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'   
 




________________________________
 From: Karen Weil <karen.weil at sddt.com>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2008 6:14:46 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this

Howdy, TB:

Let's not get too carried away, yet . But I like your optimism, regardless!

k.w.


----- Original Message ----- From: "TB" <partyslammer at socal.rr.com>
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this


> "melinda grant" wrote:
> 
> i wish i could be in the u.s.a for all this election feaver,i could not vote anyhow as i am british citizen and in u.k at mo---i have several great aunts and about 30 cousins spread over u.s.a they would have voted--i really hope obama gets in i really do or i predict a riot if he does not--if for instance he looses by a slight few votes ;(
> 
> +++++++++
> 
> Already, Obama has 174 to McCains' measly 49 electoral votes (either candidate needs 270 or more to win).  The news broadcasts are practically chomping at the bit to call the race but aren't because polls don't close here on the West Coast for another two hours, plus they'll lose viewers. There is zero doubt Obama will win, and in fact it could be one of the biggest landslides in US history.
> 
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From hollytree1961 at hotmail.com  Tue Nov  4 23:42:34 2008
From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com (melinda grant)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 04:42:34 +0000
Subject: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d
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ENJOY YOUR CELEBRATIONS OK ;d I AM VERY SLEEPY VERY LATE IN UK  I AM OF TO BED ;)

Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 20:39:40 -0800From: sandstorm_mg at yahoo.comTo: gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d



I think many of us here in the US who are interested in this are watching concession speeches and waiting for Oboma's acceptance speech. I am thrilled with the outcome. We still have a long way to go to undo a huge mess. That's as far as my political views will be expressed here. Off to celebrate!

Cheers

Michael

www.pleasureandpainmusic.com
www.myspace.com/thereptilehaus



From: melinda grant <hollytree1961 at hotmail.com>To: thegathering mailing list <gathering at misera.net>Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2008 8:03:14 PMSubject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;dOBAMA HAS WON

From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 03:12:02 +0000Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 thiswheres the rest of the usa gatherers?

From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 03:04:14 +0000Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 thisLOL LOL hay you knew i ment new mexico just testing yee all ;D)))

Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 19:02:55 -0800From: saulomar1 at yahoo.comTo: gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this


Yeah, but John McCain got London.  8P
 
 
... ... ... ... ... ... 
[looking at the current state of things..]
 
'Save me...
  save me from Tomorrow..
    I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'   
 




From: melinda grant <hollytree1961 at hotmail.com>To: thegathering mailing list <gathering at misera.net>Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2008 6:45:57 PMSubject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 thisknew i could rely on the mexicans ;D

From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 02:43:32 +0000Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 thisobama just got ---mexico city---knew i  ;D)))))

Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 18:35:06 -0800From: saulomar1 at yahoo.comTo: gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this


> Let's not get too carried away.. 
 
I will. ;)
 
John McCain lost Pennsylvania, John McCain lost Ohio: John McCain lost.  Obama is President.
 
 
 
... ... ... ... ... ... 
[looking at the current state of things..]
 
'Save me...
  save me from Tomorrow..
    I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'   
 




From: Karen Weil <karen.weil at sddt.com>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2008 6:14:46 PMSubject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 thisHowdy, TB:Let's not get too carried away, yet . But I like your optimism, regardless!k.w.----- Original Message ----- From: "TB" <partyslammer at socal.rr.com>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 6:07 PMSubject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this> "melinda grant" wrote:> > i wish i could be in the u.s.a for all this election feaver,i could not vote anyhow as i am british citizen and in u.k at mo---i have several great aunts and about 30 cousins spread over u.s.a they would have voted--i really hope obama gets in i really do or i predict a riot if he does not--if for instance he looses by a slight few votes ;(> > +++++++++> > Already, Obama has 174 to McCains' measly 49 electoral votes (either candidate needs 270 or more to win).  The news broadcasts are practically chomping at the bit to call the race but aren't because polls don't close here on the West Coast for another two hours, plus they'll lose viewers. There is zero doubt Obama will win, and in fact it could be one of the biggest landslides in US history.> > T.B.> _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering> _______________________________________________Gathering mailing listGathering at misera.nethttp://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering

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From hollytree1961 at hotmail.com  Tue Nov  4 23:44:42 2008
From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com (melinda grant)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 04:44:42 +0000
Subject: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d
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OK I MUSTSTAYWA  AWAKE TO HERE OBAMAS SPEECH  ;)

From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 04:42:34 +0000Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d

ENJOY YOUR CELEBRATIONS OK ;d I AM VERY SLEEPY VERY LATE IN UK  I AM OF TO BED ;)

Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 20:39:40 -0800From: sandstorm_mg at yahoo.comTo: gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d



I think many of us here in the US who are interested in this are watching concession speeches and waiting for Oboma's acceptance speech. I am thrilled with the outcome. We still have a long way to go to undo a huge mess. That's as far as my political views will be expressed here. Off to celebrate!

Cheers

Michael

www.pleasureandpainmusic.com
www.myspace.com/thereptilehaus



From: melinda grant <hollytree1961 at hotmail.com>To: thegathering mailing list <gathering at misera.net>Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2008 8:03:14 PMSubject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;dOBAMA HAS WON

From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 03:12:02 +0000Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 thiswheres the rest of the usa gatherers?

From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 03:04:14 +0000Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 thisLOL LOL hay you knew i ment new mexico just testing yee all ;D)))

Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 19:02:55 -0800From: saulomar1 at yahoo.comTo: gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this


Yeah, but John McCain got London.  8P
 
 
... ... ... ... ... ... 
[looking at the current state of things..]
 
'Save me...
  save me from Tomorrow..
    I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'   
 




From: melinda grant <hollytree1961 at hotmail.com>To: thegathering mailing list <gathering at misera.net>Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2008 6:45:57 PMSubject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 thisknew i could rely on the mexicans ;D

From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 02:43:32 +0000Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 thisobama just got ---mexico city---knew i  ;D)))))

Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 18:35:06 -0800From: saulomar1 at yahoo.comTo: gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this


> Let's not get too carried away.. 
 
I will. ;)
 
John McCain lost Pennsylvania, John McCain lost Ohio: John McCain lost.  Obama is President.
 
 
 
... ... ... ... ... ... 
[looking at the current state of things..]
 
'Save me...
  save me from Tomorrow..
    I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'   
 




From: Karen Weil <karen.weil at sddt.com>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2008 6:14:46 PMSubject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 thisHowdy, TB:Let's not get too carried away, yet . But I like your optimism, regardless!k.w.----- Original Message ----- From: "TB" <partyslammer at socal.rr.com>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 6:07 PMSubject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this> "melinda grant" wrote:> > i wish i could be in the u.s.a for all this election feaver,i could not vote anyhow as i am british citizen and in u.k at mo---i have several great aunts and about 30 cousins spread over u.s.a they would have voted--i really hope obama gets in i really do or i predict a riot if he does not--if for instance he looses by a slight few votes ;(> > +++++++++> > Already, Obama has 174 to McCains' measly 49 electoral votes (either candidate needs 270 or more to win).  The news broadcasts are practically chomping at the bit to call the race but aren't because polls don't close here on the West Coast for another two hours, plus they'll lose viewers. There is zero doubt Obama will win, and in fact it could be one of the biggest landslides in US history.> > T.B.> _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering> _______________________________________________Gathering mailing listGathering at misera.nethttp://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering

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From jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk  Tue Nov  4 23:47:19 2008
From: jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk (jo)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 04:47:19 -0000
Subject: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d
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Whereas there's a little bit of an 'oh boo' in me.  I'd've been tittlated to observed the forecast chaos had the result been different:-))  Thank fuck it's over and done with now.  Please spare us the longwinded debriefing and post polling hysterics.



  I think many of us here in the US who are interested in this are watching concession speeches and waiting for Oboma's acceptance speech. I am thrilled with the outcome. We still have a long way to go to undo a huge mess. That's as far as my political views will be expressed here. Off to celebrate!


  Cheers


  Michael


  www.pleasureandpainmusic.com
  www.myspace.com/thereptilehaus



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  From: melinda grant <hollytree1961 at hotmail.com>
  To: thegathering mailing list <gathering at misera.net>
  Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2008 8:03:14 PM
  Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d

  OBAMA HAS WON


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  From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com
  To: gathering at misera.net
  Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 03:12:02 +0000
  Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this

  whe
  res the rest of the usa gatherers?

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  From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com
  To: gathering at misera.net
  Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 03:04:14 +0000
  Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this

  LOL LOL hay you knew i ment new mexico just testing yee all ;D)))

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  Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 19:02:55 -0800
  From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com
  To: gathering at misera.net
  Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this


  Yeah, but John McCain got London.  8P


   
  ... ... ... ... ... ... 

  [looking at the current state of things..]

  'Save me...
    save me from Tomorrow..
      I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'   






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  From: melinda grant <hollytree1961 at hotmail.com>
  To: thegathering mailing list <gathering at misera.net>
  Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2008 6:45:57 PM
  Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this


  knew i could rely on the mexicans ;D

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  From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com
  To: gathering at misera.net
  Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 02:43:32 +0000
  Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this

  obama just got ---mexico city---knew i  ;D)))))

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  Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 18:35:06 -0800
  From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com
  To: gathering at misera.net
  Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this


  > Let's not get too carried away.. 

  I will. ;)

  John McCain lost Pennsylvania, John McCain lost Ohio: John McCain lost.  Obama is President.



  ... ... ... ... ... ... 

  [looking at the current state of things..]

  'Save me...
    save me from Tomorrow..
      I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'   






------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  From: Karen Weil <karen.weil at sddt.com>
  To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
  Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2008 6:14:46 PM
  Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this

  Howdy, TB:

  Let's not get too carried away, yet . But I like your optimism, regardless!

  k.w.


  ----- Original Message ----- From: "TB" <partyslammer at socal.rr.com>
  To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
  Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 6:07 PM
  Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this


  > "melinda grant" wrote:
  > 
  > i wish i could be in the u.s.a for all this election feaver,i could not vote anyhow as i am british citizen and in u.k at mo---i have several great aunts and about 30 cousins spread over u.s.a they would have voted--i really hope obama gets in i really do or i predict a riot if he does not--if for instance he looses by a slight few votes ;(
  > 
  > +++++++++
  > 
  > Already, Obama has 174 to McCains' measly 49 electoral votes (either candidate needs 270 or more to win).  The news broadcasts are practically chomping at the bit to call the race but aren't because polls don't close here on the West Coast for another two hours, plus they'll lose viewers. There is zero doubt Obama will win, and in fact it could be one of the biggest landslides in US history.
  > 
  > T.B.
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From marsboy1 at msn.com  Wed Nov  5 00:41:49 2008
From: marsboy1 at msn.com (Matthew Burke)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 00:41:49 -0500
Subject: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d
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Wow, another Wall St. puppet that openly embraces war . . . things should change immediately.
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From cliffmonk at gmail.com  Wed Nov  5 00:59:33 2008
From: cliffmonk at gmail.com (Cliff Livingston)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 20:59:33 -0900
Subject: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d
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yes hurrah for the winners and the losers Mc Can't and Plain will now be
publicly beheaded



On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 8:41 PM, Matthew Burke <marsboy1 at msn.com> wrote:

> Wow, another Wall St. puppet that openly embraces war . . . things should
> change immediately.
>
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From cliffmonk at gmail.com  Wed Nov  5 01:11:03 2008
From: cliffmonk at gmail.com (Cliff Livingston)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 21:11:03 -0900
Subject: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d
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wasilla had a party and they just showed it on tv and they've got a band
playing hit me with yer best shot with no crowd.There's a few crying women
and a few mullets,the hillbilly christian crowd has gone home,haha.
Obama supporters are downtown Anchorage having a funtime.
Look fwd to Obama bitch slapping george bush out of the white house.
Still waiting to hear if senator ted stevens got re elected after his recent
criminal scandal,i think he should've been put in jail,and all of the scum
oil sucking republicans here.




On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 8:59 PM, Cliff Livingston <cliffmonk at gmail.com>wrote:

> yes hurrah for the winners and the losers Mc Can't and Plain will now be
> publicly beheaded
>
>
>
>  On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 8:41 PM, Matthew Burke <marsboy1 at msn.com> wrote:
>
>>  Wow, another Wall St. puppet that openly embraces war . . . things
>> should change immediately.
>>
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From bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net  Wed Nov  5 01:55:42 2008
From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net (B. Oliver Sheppard)
Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 00:55:42 -0600
Subject: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d
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FUCK YES.



Finally the USA might have another FDR/Truman in my lifetime.

7 years after 9-11, we elect a man named Barack Hussein Obama (who I 
voted for).

The USA is back, dogs. Big time. Hell yes.


-Oliver

From Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.uk  Wed Nov  5 05:21:30 2008
From: Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.uk (Janean Lancaster)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 10:21:30 -0000
Subject: [kj] O/T Cure O2 gig
Message-ID: <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232D681@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal>

Of interest, yes.  Ta.

 

Won't be going to any NME "Big Gig" where they play a cut down set
alongside some other toss, mind.

 

Cheers,

Janean

 

________________________________

From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
On Behalf Of Brian Whitehead
Sent: 04 November 2008 20:32
To: Gathering
Subject: [kj] O/T Cure O2 gig

 

Maybe some interest on the list?

Brian.

THE CURE TO HEADLINE NME AWARDS BIG GIG 

The Cure are set to celebrate being crowned Godlike Geniuses at next
year's Shockwaves NME Awards by headlining the annual Big Gig on
February 26th. 

Fresh from glory at the previous night's Shockwaves NME Awards ceremony,
the band will make a short hop across the capital to take to the stage
at London's O2 arena. 

Robert Smith said: "When The Cure play now we almost always play three
hours plus, taking songs from every era of the band's career. We'll have
to cut it down a bit for the Big Gig, but we'll still try to reflect
what we've done over the years... with maybe even a few surprises thrown
in to make it that bit more special!" 

Tickets for the Shockwaves NME Awards Big Gig go on sale on Wednesday
5th November at 9am and are available exclusively from
www.nme.com/biggig
<http://zaphod.uk.vvhp.net/click/3876984-67327/zaphod.uk.vvhp.net/v-v/08
1104162859>  until Monday 10th November. 

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From lennonka at gmail.com  Wed Nov  5 05:28:24 2008
From: lennonka at gmail.com (Lennonka)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 11:28:24 +0100
Subject: [kj] Berlin Photos - Stephane F.F.
Message-ID: <101ab85f0811050228p4614bf0me400fc2f1bd3cca5@mail.gmail.com>

Really good work, Appo!
You deserve a nice digital reflex camera (zrcadlovku)!

By the way, Frenchy Frenzy "owes" us pics from Berlin, too!
Where are they? Nicely pleeease...

-- 
With love & peace
Lennonka

www.killingjoke.cz & KJ Forum
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From vassifer at earthlink.net  Wed Nov  5 07:37:16 2008
From: vassifer at earthlink.net (Alex Smith)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 07:37:16 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
Subject: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d
Message-ID: <2852372.1225888637337.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>


Seconded! Finally -- an end to eight years of Rebublican bullshit (which, however, is not to say that Democrats are incapable of producing vast amounts of same).

Still, I'm relieved and hopeful.

Alex in NYC


-----Original Message-----
>From: "B. Oliver Sheppard" <bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net>
>Sent: Nov 5, 2008 1:55 AM
>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
>Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d
>
>FUCK YES.
>
>
>
>Finally the USA might have another FDR/Truman in my lifetime.
>
>7 years after 9-11, we elect a man named Barack Hussein Obama (who I 
>voted for).
>
>The USA is back, dogs. Big time. Hell yes.
>
>
>-Oliver
>_______________________________________________
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From fluke1 at live.co.uk  Wed Nov  5 08:28:56 2008
From: fluke1 at live.co.uk (fluke fluke)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 13:28:56 +0000
Subject: [kj] John Smith, the White saviour?
In-Reply-To: <4911436E.7050409@sbcglobal.net>
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  I really dont see why people are making such a big issue about Obama's skin colour or his name .
  If in four years time a candidate is a White man called John Smith is running for Presidency and he won , and rednecks were driving around shouting "Hellejula, a White man with a proper name is out new President, we are saved"
  The would be perceived as being racist . Skin colour and name should be irrelevant . Its quite ironic that its the Left wingers who preach equality when it suits them . But it seems that inequality is fine, when it suits them.
   And if you think that everything will now change, then you are wrong . Obama is very similar to Tony Blair and Obama has stated that he will defend Israel and attack Pakistan 
 
> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 00:55:42 -0600> From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d> > FUCK YES.> > > > Finally the USA might have another FDR/Truman in my lifetime.> > 7 years after 9-11, we elect a man named Barack Hussein Obama (who I > voted for).> > The USA is back, dogs. Big time. Hell yes.> > > -Oliver> _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
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From bq at soundgardener.co.nz  Wed Nov  5 08:34:49 2008
From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 02:34:49 +1300 (NZDT)
Subject: [kj] (OT) The Official US lection-from a beidge person lol ;)
In-Reply-To: <BLU120-W52DB5FF155D64554E9197AB81F0@phx.gbl>
References: <BD60B2A89D16094897629D4CCC50B1CB3A4820@ED01VN01.NCL-HIS.NHS.UK><186771.31678.qm@web52609.mail.re2.yahoo.com><52F58445353C461F8B29116D60FFC1E2@Bell2007PC><COL109-W674522AC58CC805AC0AB2BED1C0@phx.gbl><10BC63E487114384A51CBC1E4D0BD0B3@Bell2007PC><4910B14F.4080706@sbcglobal.net><BAY116-W55BAD38F316F33B22694E5A91C0@phx.gbl>
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	<96D77DF5B8BC45DDBC5F6A69449282E7@Bell2007PC>
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I don't agree with discrimination on the basis of race, but I personally
don't believe everyone should have a vote.

Republicans for starters.

>
> well of course i dissagre with that, irrespective of anyones colour no one
> should be denyied--or intimidated out of their right to vote,just wanted
> to add that point  ;)> From: partyslammer at socal.rr.com> To:
> gathering at misera.net> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 16:48:33 -0800> Subject: Re:
> [kj] (OT) The Official US lection-from a beidge person lol ;)> > "melinda
> grant" wrote:> > i strongly suspect that to be bollocks ;) --black pathers
> standing out side > polling booths stopping white people from votIng---my
> ass---thats a bloody > poor joke--because in the distant past there were
> white officials stoping > black/brown/beige--people from voting FACT :( ok
> ok weres my sence of > humour,i have loads but....> > +++++++> > I dunno
> if or how it could be a "joke" but from what I understand, they > didn't
> "stop" anyone from voting but their presence was apparantly > intimidating
> to some people.> > T.B. > >
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From bq at soundgardener.co.nz  Wed Nov  5 08:35:28 2008
From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 02:35:28 +1300 (NZDT)
Subject: [kj] (OT) The Official US lection-from a beidge person lol ;)
In-Reply-To: <526202.63183.qm@web52603.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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The funeral video?

Someone should've?"Tazed" those guys and made a citizen's arrest and then
> posted the video.
>
>
> ... ... ... ... ... ...
>
> [looking at the current?state of things..]
> ?
> 'Save me...
> ? save me?from Tomorrow..
> ??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'??
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: TB <partyslammer at socal.rr.com>
> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
> <gathering at misera.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2008 4:48:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) The Official US lection-from a beidge person lol ;)
>
> "melinda grant" wrote:
>
> i strongly suspect that to be bollocks ;)? --black pathers standing out
> side polling booths stopping white people from votIng---my ass---thats a
> bloody poor joke--because in the distant past there were white officials
> stoping black/brown/beige--people from voting FACT? :(? ? ok ok weres my
> sence of humour,i have loads but....
>
> +++++++
>
> I dunno if or how it could be a "joke" but from what I understand, they
> didn't "stop" anyone from voting but their presence was apparantly
> intimidating to some people.
>
> T.B.
> _______________________________________________
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>
>
>
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From bq at soundgardener.co.nz  Wed Nov  5 08:37:49 2008
From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 02:37:49 +1300 (NZDT)
Subject: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this
In-Reply-To: <F34523AE3C6A4C98A6560F67E401F22A@edweil>
References: <BLU120-W43AF3099AB5F674891180EB81F0@phx.gbl>
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I didn't want to get too cocky, but like I said, I think the media made
out like it was a competition when it never was at all. If for no other
reason than Americans have FINALLY made a decisive move to get the fuck
rid of Bush. I raised a drink to that last night before I went to bed
without 'knowing' that Obama had won.

> Howdy, TB:
>
> Let's not get too carried away, yet . But I like your optimism,
> regardless!
>
> k.w.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "TB" <partyslammer at socal.rr.com>
> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
> <gathering at misera.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 6:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this
>
>
>> "melinda grant" wrote:
>>
>> i wish i could be in the u.s.a for all this election feaver,i could not
>> vote anyhow as i am british citizen and in u.k at mo---i have several
>> great aunts and about 30 cousins spread over u.s.a they would have
>> voted--i really hope obama gets in i really do or i predict a riot if he
>> does not--if for instance he looses by a slight few votes ;(
>>
>> +++++++++
>>
>> Already, Obama has 174 to McCains' measly 49 electoral votes (either
>> candidate needs 270 or more to win).  The news broadcasts are
>> practically
>> chomping at the bit to call the race but aren't because polls don't
>> close
>> here on the West Coast for another two hours, plus they'll lose viewers.
>> There is zero doubt Obama will win, and in fact it could be one of the
>> biggest landslides in US history.
>>
>> T.B.
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From bq at soundgardener.co.nz  Wed Nov  5 08:44:17 2008
From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 02:44:17 +1300 (NZDT)
Subject: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d
In-Reply-To: <BAY137-W11662D00741FB17F9C17068D1F0@phx.gbl>
References: <mailman.51.1225858554.16136.gathering@misera.net>
	<BAY137-W11662D00741FB17F9C17068D1F0@phx.gbl>
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I gotta say...the most you can really hope for is a slightly LESS cynical
outlook than you already have, in all honesty. If he proves us wrong, well
the earth will move for everyone...but yeah, I'm with Noam on the reality
of the situation.

I'm with Noam...something fuckin' funny about that statement.

>
> Wow, another Wall St. puppet that openly embraces war . . . things should
> change immediately._______________________________________________
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From fluwdot at earthlink.net  Wed Nov  5 09:07:13 2008
From: fluwdot at earthlink.net (fluw)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 09:07:13 -0500
Subject: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d
In-Reply-To: <BAY137-W11662D00741FB17F9C17068D1F0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <E1Kxj2O-0003df-D9@elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

I am excited about Obama and for what 'he says' he will do, especially here
in the US socially - and I look forward to the possibilities of people
coming together in the US, but anyone who thinks Obama is going to make
drastic change overseas, in the environment, or fiscally is a fool.

 

The world is America's bitch and she likes to have her ass reamed.

 

Ralph Nader or Cynthia McKinney would be the only candidates able to offer
change that benefits those who suffer at the hands of America!

 

Everything will be the same 'cept the US basketball courts and jobsites will
have more inter 

- racial camaraderie.maybe. 

 

 

  _____  

From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Matthew Burke
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 12:42 AM
To: gathering
Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d

 

Wow, another Wall St. puppet that openly embraces war . . . things should
change immediately.

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From crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk  Wed Nov  5 09:37:48 2008
From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk (Sarah's Putrefying Kunt)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 14:37:48 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart
In-Reply-To: <E1Kxj2O-0003df-D9@elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <350673.55056.qm@web23208.mail.ird.yahoo.com>

Obama's acceptance speech was rather vacuous wasn't it?



--- On Wed, 5/11/08, fluw <fluwdot at earthlink.net> wrote:

> From: fluw <fluwdot at earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d
> To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" <gathering at misera.net>
> Date: Wednesday, 5 November, 2008, 2:07 PM
> I am excited about Obama and for what 'he says' he
> will do, especially here
> in the US socially - and I look forward to the
> possibilities of people
> coming together in the US, but anyone who thinks Obama is
> going to make
> drastic change overseas, in the environment, or fiscally is
> a fool.
> 
>  
> 
> The world is America's bitch and she likes to have her
> ass reamed.


      

From crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk  Wed Nov  5 09:40:40 2008
From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk (Palin's Political Death Rattle)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 14:40:40 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [kj] Seeing Tax Cred
In-Reply-To: <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232D681@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal>
Message-ID: <245335.53114.qm@web23203.mail.ird.yahoo.com>


We're dropping bombs again 
And we're doing it in your name...

Except for Rob's good moral Arse 
Different account's set up for him

The dosh we take from him 
Will only help the old 
Buy marmalade and buttered toast
And Credit Crunch for lunch!

OK, lets rock!

777666777666777666777666777
PS. WTF is a numpty anyway?
888888888888888888888888888



Republicans Out Forever!



      

From crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk  Wed Nov  5 09:42:32 2008
From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk (Palin's Political Death Rattle)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 14:42:32 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [kj] John Smith, the White saviour?
In-Reply-To: <BLU108-W473C5539FBE4745811E92EBE1F0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <903514.2381.qm@web23206.mail.ird.yahoo.com>

Yes but anyone would be better than that dog brained bitch Palin surely?

Even Dubya!!!

RTX, Kristin Hersh, Githead, Shellac, Michael Gira, 
The Dirty Three & Genesis P-Orridge 
interviewed here:
http://www.perfectsoundforever.com

Republicans Out Forever!


--- On Wed, 5/11/08, fluke fluke <fluke1 at live.co.uk> wrote:

> From: fluke fluke <fluke1 at live.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: [kj] John Smith, the White saviour?
> To: gathering at misera.net
> Date: Wednesday, 5 November, 2008, 1:28 PM
> I really dont see why people are making such a big issue
> about Obama's skin colour or his name .
>   If in four years time a candidate is a White man called
> John Smith is running for Presidency and he won , and
> rednecks were driving around shouting "Hellejula, a
> White man with a proper name is out new President, we are
> saved"
>   The would be perceived as being racist . Skin colour and
> name should be irrelevant . Its quite ironic that its the
> Left wingers who preach equality when it suits them . But it
> seems that inequality is fine, when it suits them.
>    And if you think that everything will now change, then
> you are wrong . Obama is very similar to Tony Blair and
> Obama has stated that he will defend Israel and attack
> Pakistan 
>  
> > Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 00:55:42 -0600> From:
> bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net> To: gathering at misera.net>
> Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d> > FUCK
> YES.> > > > Finally the USA might have another
> FDR/Truman in my lifetime.> > 7 years after 9-11, we
> elect a man named Barack Hussein Obama (who I > voted
> for).> > The USA is back, dogs. Big time. Hell
> yes.> > > -Oliver>
> _______________________________________________>
> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net>
> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
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From bq at soundgardener.co.nz  Wed Nov  5 09:43:26 2008
From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 03:43:26 +1300 (NZDT)
Subject: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d
In-Reply-To: <E1Kxj2O-0003df-D9@elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <BAY137-W11662D00741FB17F9C17068D1F0@phx.gbl>
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Gotta disagree...

I was reading recently that the boom / bust cycle for quite a while in the
US has been Democrat for the booms and Republicans for the busts...

Any changes in healthcare alone will have a big effect on the economy,
according to what I've read there's a massive looming crisis with the
increased spend on healthcare - with the baby boomers starting to enter
retirement from 2011 on...9some would be trickling through early already).

>From what I gather a lot of baby boomers are going to want to sell their
houses as they retire and transfer the $ into cash and similar, so there
may be a glut off houses on the market, further harming prices...

There's no doubt that the Dems now being in such a position of power will
have a marked effect on the economy, and I think Obama is going to be a
change for the better in terms of the US's international relations.


> I am excited about Obama and for what 'he says' he will do, especially
> here
> in the US socially - and I look forward to the possibilities of people
> coming together in the US, but anyone who thinks Obama is going to make
> drastic change overseas, in the environment, or fiscally is a fool.
>
>
>
> The world is America's bitch and she likes to have her ass reamed.
>
>
>
> Ralph Nader or Cynthia McKinney would be the only candidates able to offer
> change that benefits those who suffer at the hands of America!
>
>
>
> Everything will be the same 'cept the US basketball courts and jobsites
> will
> have more inter
>
> - racial camaraderie.maybe.
>
>
>
>
>
>   _____
>
> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
> On
> Behalf Of Matthew Burke
> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 12:42 AM
> To: gathering
> Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d
>
>
>
> Wow, another Wall St. puppet that openly embraces war . . . things should
> change immediately.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Gathering mailing list
> Gathering at misera.net
> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
>



From crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk  Wed Nov  5 09:44:29 2008
From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk (Palin's Political Death Rattle)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 14:44:29 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [kj] 11:11
In-Reply-To: <28312626.1225811765506.JavaMail.root@mswamui-bichon.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <259757.31401.qm@web23202.mail.ird.yahoo.com>

Hell yeah, Live Skull were a great band! I think I actually have a spare copy of their last and best album "Positraction" bought as a bargain bin back up. I always buy extra copies when I see 'Night Time' in the bargain bins too. Once there was a crumpled up fiver inside one of those old LPs. Live Skull got better with Thalia as singer, ie the best albums were 'Dusted,' 'Snuffer' and 'Positraction.' 
I think Thalia's previous band Uzi were just as good, if not better. Their drummer Danny was drumming for Thalia on her recent European tour. Apparently the Jesus and Mary Chain*, notorious Glasgow naughty boys who got too drunk to play back in the day, came over to Boston and Uzi supported. They were such hard ass Glasgow Estate muthas they shit their pants when Uzi soundchecked and hid in their dressing room. Apparently Thalia kicked the shit out of both the Live Skull guitarists after their last gig, but she's calmed down a lot since then.

Come though were one of the greatest bands I've heard and I went to see them a hell of a lot. Obviously Steve Wynn had a very different view to Alex as he asked them to be his backing band and the resulting album 'Melting in the Dark' was probably his best since the first Dream Syndicate album. En route from Hamburg to Brussels David Michael Curry, viola player of the Thalia Zedek band put on 'Crossing Dragon Bridge' a new collaboration between Steve Wynn and the guy from the Walkabouts. It sounded good, but not as good as 'Here Come the Miracles' which is the best thing I've heard from Wynn in recent times. I bought a couple of his albums in Berlin but my turntable is still packed away so I haven't listened to them yet. I also found a very cheap CD of 'Flourescent' (five Euros in a shop near La Botanique the day after Thalia played there) and it's quite nice but not one of Wynn's best albums.

Chris Brokaw, former guitarist of Come is now playing solo and drumming for The New Year, who are just about to tour Europe. Check it out:

http://www.chrisbrokaw.com

Come, Thalia Zedek Band & New Year all play Tanned Tin Festival

http://www.tannedtin.com/ 

*After several tantrums, 
the Jesus and Mary Chain
decided to cut their hair.

Republicans Out Forever!


--- On Tue, 4/11/08, Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:

> From: Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [kj] 11:11
> To: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk, "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>, "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
> Date: Tuesday, 4 November, 2008, 3:16 PM
> I saw Come open for a Steve Wynn/Dream Syndicate reunion at
> the Mercury Lounge back in the 90s.
> 
> They were a bore. Give me Live Skull every time.
> 
> Alex in NYC
> 


Bollweevil!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pest!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


      

From crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk  Wed Nov  5 09:45:15 2008
From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk (Palin's Political Death Rattle)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 14:45:15 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [kj] Bust
In-Reply-To: <44820.203.210.68.145.1225896206.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz>
Message-ID: <716219.71922.qm@web23207.mail.ird.yahoo.com>

--- On Wed, 5/11/08, Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> wrote:

> From: Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
> Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d
> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
> Date: Wednesday, 5 November, 2008, 2:43 PM
> Gotta disagree...
> 
> I was reading recently that the boom / bust cycle for quite
> a while in the
> US has been Democrat for the booms and Republicans for the
> busts...
> 

That is very true, man.


      

From fluwdot at earthlink.net  Wed Nov  5 09:59:59 2008
From: fluwdot at earthlink.net (fluw)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 09:59:59 -0500
Subject: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d
In-Reply-To: <44820.203.210.68.145.1225896206.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz>
Message-ID: <E1KxjrS-000397-Mm@elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

I hope you are right, and the healthcare changes should bring benefits to
the economy.

Obama's words are encouraging and I feel his comprehension, intelligence and
class may help in international affairs. But until energy usage - America's
demands change - then our lifestyle will usurp any hope of a peaceful world.


But before then it will be china's turn to do the fucking. Get out the lube
y'all.

2012 can't come soon enough

   




-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Brendan
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 9:43 AM
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d

Gotta disagree...

I was reading recently that the boom / bust cycle for quite a while in the
US has been Democrat for the booms and Republicans for the busts...

Any changes in healthcare alone will have a big effect on the economy,
according to what I've read there's a massive looming crisis with the
increased spend on healthcare - with the baby boomers starting to enter
retirement from 2011 on...9some would be trickling through early already).

>From what I gather a lot of baby boomers are going to want to sell their
houses as they retire and transfer the $ into cash and similar, so there
may be a glut off houses on the market, further harming prices...

There's no doubt that the Dems now being in such a position of power will
have a marked effect on the economy, and I think Obama is going to be a
change for the better in terms of the US's international relations.


> I am excited about Obama and for what 'he says' he will do, especially
> here
> in the US socially - and I look forward to the possibilities of people
> coming together in the US, but anyone who thinks Obama is going to make
> drastic change overseas, in the environment, or fiscally is a fool.
>
>
>
> The world is America's bitch and she likes to have her ass reamed.
>
>
>
> Ralph Nader or Cynthia McKinney would be the only candidates able to offer
> change that benefits those who suffer at the hands of America!
>
>
>
> Everything will be the same 'cept the US basketball courts and jobsites
> will
> have more inter
>
> - racial camaraderie.maybe.
>
>
>
>
>
>   _____
>
> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
> On
> Behalf Of Matthew Burke
> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 12:42 AM
> To: gathering
> Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d
>
>
>
> Wow, another Wall St. puppet that openly embraces war . . . things should
> change immediately.
>
> _______________________________________________
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From wessidetempest at hotmail.com  Wed Nov  5 10:06:43 2008
From: wessidetempest at hotmail.com (Christof hamille)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 10:06:43 -0500
Subject: [kj] Plasticheadbutted
In-Reply-To: <8EDFA4D2-7691-4632-AC16-EF0ACCA822EB@earthlink.net>
References: <635090.8153.qm@web23203.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
	<04e701c93ddd$77f68080$0100000a@jo>
	<88BB47D7-0157-4440-998C-36D697564EEF@gmail.com>
	<BLU120-W367C8B4EDF6DD800A974D7B81D0@phx.gbl> 
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Message-ID: <BAY138-W221F0048C62B25F8A5D239DB1F0@phx.gbl>


I detest them.  I asked a simple question as to whether the t-shirts that have the Duende jester had dates on the back.  The picture is vague.

Have they responded?

No way

Nor did they respond when I sent them $100+ for every color of Extremities only to have them shown up banged up and scratched up.

I plan on ordering from Amazon.co.uk.

Buck up Alex

I'll be back in NYC to cheer you up over the holidaze.

hahahahahahahahahaha

Chris

> From: vassifer at earthlink.net
> To: gathering at misera.net
> Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 19:54:56 -0500
> Subject: [kj]  Plasticheadbutted
> 
> 
> So, a little while after I crossed the perilous rubicon of 41, I  
> decided to splurge and pick up both the DUENDES disc ORIGINAL  
> UNPERVERTED PANTOMIME CD/DVD via Plastichead. Sure, a bit more  
> expensive than I'd prefer, but I work hard for my fucking money, and  
> it's been a shit year and I'll take my fleeting, few remaining  
> pleasures where I can find them. Few things bring me as much joy as  
> Killing Joke, so I feel no guilt. I placed my online order with  
> Plastichead and eagerly awaited their arrival.
> 
> Today, a bulky package sat waiting for me in my mailbox. When I  
> brought it upstairs, I hungrily ripped it open to find a lovingly  
> packaged pair of discs containing THE ORIGINAL UNPERVERTED PANTOMIME  
> and.....
> 
> 
> .......
> 
> 
> 
> ..........
> 
> 
> ...............
> 
> 
> THE COURTAULD TALKS!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ::::crickets:::
> 
> 
> Fuck Plastichead.
> 
> 
> Alex in NYC
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From crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk  Wed Nov  5 10:16:34 2008
From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk (Palin's Political Death Rattle)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 15:16:34 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a Kenyan Wardance!
In-Reply-To: <E1KxjrS-000397-Mm@elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <633572.85930.qm@web23208.mail.ird.yahoo.com>

Well it seems very unlikely that Obama will screw up 
'Foreign Ploicy' worse than those warmongers Rumslfed, Chainy, Ashcroft and their retard puppet stooge Dubya!

--- On Wed, 5/11/08, fluw <fluwdot at earthlink.net> wrote:

> From: fluw <fluwdot at earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d
> To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" <gathering at misera.net>
> Date: Wednesday, 5 November, 2008, 2:59 PM
> I hope you are right, and the healthcare changes should
> bring benefits to
> the economy.
> 
> Obama's words are encouraging and I feel his
> comprehension, intelligence and
> class may help in international affairs. But until energy
> usage - America's
> demands change - then our lifestyle will usurp any hope of
> a peaceful world.
> 
> 
> But before then it will be china's turn to do the
> fucking. Get out the lube
> y'all.
> 
> 2012 can't come soon enough
> 
>    
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
> Behalf Of Brendan
> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 9:43 AM
> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
> Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d
> 
> Gotta disagree...
> 
> I was reading recently that the boom / bust cycle for quite
> a while in the
> US has been Democrat for the booms and Republicans for the
> busts...
> 
> Any changes in healthcare alone will have a big effect on
> the economy,
> according to what I've read there's a massive
> looming crisis with the
> increased spend on healthcare - with the baby boomers
> starting to enter
> retirement from 2011 on...9some would be trickling through
> early already).
> 
> >From what I gather a lot of baby boomers are going to
> want to sell their
> houses as they retire and transfer the $ into cash and
> similar, so there
> may be a glut off houses on the market, further harming
> prices...
> 
> There's no doubt that the Dems now being in such a
> position of power will
> have a marked effect on the economy, and I think Obama is
> going to be a
> change for the better in terms of the US's
> international relations.
> 
> 
> > I am excited about Obama and for what 'he
> says' he will do, especially
> > here
> > in the US socially - and I look forward to the
> possibilities of people
> > coming together in the US, but anyone who thinks Obama
> is going to make
> > drastic change overseas, in the environment, or
> fiscally is a fool.
> >
> >
> >
> > The world is America's bitch and she likes to have
> her ass reamed.
> >
> >
> >
> > Ralph Nader or Cynthia McKinney would be the only
> candidates able to offer
> > change that benefits those who suffer at the hands of
> America!
> >
> >
> >
> > Everything will be the same 'cept the US
> basketball courts and jobsites
> > will
> > have more inter
> >
> > - racial camaraderie.maybe.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >   _____
> >
> > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
> > On
> > Behalf Of Matthew Burke
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 12:42 AM
> > To: gathering
> > Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d
> >
> >
> >
> > Wow, another Wall St. puppet that openly embraces war
> . . . things should
> > change immediately.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Gathering mailing list
> > Gathering at misera.net
> > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
> >
> 
> 
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From crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk  Wed Nov  5 10:20:30 2008
From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk (Palin's Political Death Rattle)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 15:20:30 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON the right to try the War Criminals
In-Reply-To: <13071bf00811042211r7ddf7f6cp71abf07cb6025316@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <676219.97372.qm@web23207.mail.ird.yahoo.com>

Oh come now, 
poor ol' McCain doesn't desreve beheading!

Cheney, Rumsfled & Ashcroft though

Hung drawn & quertered is too good for those mass murdering greed farmers.

Bush should be put in an animal prison ("zoo") in the chimp enclosure.

Rove and Wolfowitz should have their balls cut off and rammed down their throats.

> > yes hurrah for the winners and the losers Mc Can't
> and Plain will now be
> > publicly beheaded
> >
> >
> >
> >  On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 8:41 PM, Matthew Burke
> <marsboy1 at msn.com> wrote:
> >
> >>  Wow, another Wall St. puppet that openly embraces
> war . . . things
> >> should change immediately.
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
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> >>
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> >>
> >>
> >
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From crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk  Wed Nov  5 10:24:33 2008
From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk (Palin's Political Death Rattle)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 15:24:33 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [kj] Undone
In-Reply-To: <404891.26532.qm@web52611.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <190819.93044.qm@web23204.mail.ird.yahoo.com>

WRONG
McCain did not get London.
London is being sold off to Saudi Arabia, to beat the
CREDIT CRUNCH

Republicans Out Forever!

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From crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk  Wed Nov  5 10:30:25 2008
From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk (Palin's Political Death Rattle)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 15:30:25 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [kj] Mice
In-Reply-To: <19030.203.185.215.144.1225822952.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz>
Message-ID: <773819.90492.qm@web23203.mail.ird.yahoo.com>

The past sure was tense!
The surviving mice know the dead one is dead and they are smart ennough to realise that they also might end up dead unless they stay on the lower floors with the drug addled twits.

One mouse keeled over of its own volition on the day I interviewed Genesis P-Orridge. That was the last one that got into my home.

RTX, Kristin Hersh, Githead, Shellac, Michael Gira, 
The Dirty Three & Genesis P-Orridge 
interviewed here:
http://www.perfectsoundforever.com

Republicans Out Forever!

You do not know the power of the Lark Side!
My the Farce Be With You!


--- On Tue, 4/11/08, Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> wrote:

> From: Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
> Subject: Re: [kj] Mice
> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
> Date: Tuesday, 4 November, 2008, 6:22 PM
> Hey Darth, welcome back.
> 
> >
> >
> >
> >     They tend to go away because they are dead ,
> rather than because of
> > any realisation
> >
> >
> >> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 15:08:54 +0000> From:
> crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk>
> >> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: [kj]
> Mice> > If you have a mouse
> >> infestation it is a good idea to kill them.> If
> they get killed they
> >> tend to go away as they realise they are in a
> hostile environment.> > >
> >> > > Try it. Opt out of giving a shit, then
> kill a bird or a> > mouse,
> >> for the> > hell of it. See if it was that
> easy.> > > > > > >
> >>
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From crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk  Wed Nov  5 10:32:14 2008
From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk (Palin's Political Death Rattle)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 15:32:14 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [kj] (OT) The Official US Election Dead
In-Reply-To: <0K9T00A27RBMEJD1@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>
Message-ID: <774531.66085.qm@web23202.mail.ird.yahoo.com>

I thought the idea was to stop poor people voting?

They have to get to work, and we all know without work we couldn't keep dropping bombs on dirty Arabs!

--- On Tue, 4/11/08, The Exorcist <killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com> wrote:

> From: The Exorcist <killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com>
> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) The Official US Election Thread
> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
> Date: Tuesday, 4 November, 2008, 7:54 PM
> Agreed this is a massive fuckup. How can you do not do
> testing to 
> make sure everything is all right.
> They've had eons to get it fixed! I came across an
> article that said 
> that quite a few counties are going
> back to paper ballots (Which I like).
> 
> But it's really fucking pathetic.
> 
> At 02:12 PM 11/4/2008, LONESTYLE at aol.com wrote:
> >Being an American I am a bit fed up with all these
> voting glitches 
> >and what not!  It is fuckin BULLSHIT!
> >
> >Didn't we learn anything the first time around with
> Gore & Bush in 2000?
> >
> >~ LB
> >
> >
> >In a message dated 11/4/2008 4:08:18 AM Pacific
> Standard Time, 
> >Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk writes:
> >
> >
> >
> >This is a site well worth keeping an eye on . . .
> >
> >
> >
> ><http://blog.ourvotelive.org/>http://blog.ourvotelive.org/
> >
> >
> >
> >Some scary stuff on there already
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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From bq at soundgardener.co.nz  Wed Nov  5 10:39:22 2008
From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 04:39:22 +1300 (NZDT)
Subject: [kj] OT: Web rage
Message-ID: <6017.203.210.68.145.1225899562.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz>

This seems appropriate:

http://www.dailytech.com/Users+Flood+the+Internet+With+Web+Rage/article13358.htm




From Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk  Wed Nov  5 10:45:27 2008
From: Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk (Phillipps Marc)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 15:45:27 -0000
Subject: [kj] OT: Web rage
References: <6017.203.210.68.145.1225899562.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz>
Message-ID: <BD60B2A89D16094897629D4CCC50B1CB3A482A@ED01VN01.NCL-HIS.NHS.UK>

Fucking ridiculous . . . Gaaah!! 

-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
On Behalf Of Brendan
Sent: 05 November 2008 15:39
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: [kj] OT: Web rage


This seems appropriate:

http://www.dailytech.com/Users+Flood+the+Internet+With+Web+Rage/article1
3358.htm



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From wessidetempest at hotmail.com  Wed Nov  5 10:47:32 2008
From: wessidetempest at hotmail.com (Christof hamille)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 10:47:32 -0500
Subject: [kj] Plasticheadbutted - They respond.............Finally
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wow

WOW

I got a response

I sent another email this morning

"I asked once about the Killin gJoke Tour t-shirts listed 
below.

I'll ask again

JESTER 
TOUR SHIRT BLACK 
by KILLING JOKE

What is 
inside the scroll of paper that is on the back of the shirt?

Is it tour 
dates?  So random text?  The picture is not large enough.

Can 
you respond?

Thank you

Chris"

and their response

---------------------------------------

Hi Chris, 
listed on the back are the September and October Tour 
Dates.
Thanks,
Andy


Andy is the one that responded to me before.  Before the Extremities debacle.  FUCK.  I kind of want the shirt

I hate Plastichead

Chris


From: wessidetempest at hotmail.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 10:06:43 -0500
Subject: Re: [kj] Plasticheadbutted








I detest them.  I asked a simple question as to whether the t-shirts that have the Duende jester had dates on the back.  The picture is vague.

Have they responded?

No way

Nor did they respond when I sent them $100+ for every color of Extremities only to have them shown up banged up and scratched up.

I plan on ordering from Amazon.co.uk.

Buck up Alex

I'll be back in NYC to cheer you up over the holidaze.

hahahahahahahahahaha

Chris

> From: vassifer at earthlink.net
> To: gathering at misera.net
> Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 19:54:56 -0500
> Subject: [kj]  Plasticheadbutted
> 
> 
> So, a little while after I crossed the perilous rubicon of 41, I  
> decided to splurge and pick up both the DUENDES disc ORIGINAL  
> UNPERVERTED PANTOMIME CD/DVD via Plastichead. Sure, a bit more  
> expensive than I'd prefer, but I work hard for my fucking money, and  
> it's been a shit year and I'll take my fleeting, few remaining  
> pleasures where I can find them. Few things bring me as much joy as  
> Killing Joke, so I feel no guilt. I placed my online order with  
> Plastichead and eagerly awaited their arrival.
> 
> Today, a bulky package sat waiting for me in my mailbox. When I  
> brought it upstairs, I hungrily ripped it open to find a lovingly  
> packaged pair of discs containing THE ORIGINAL UNPERVERTED PANTOMIME  
> and.....
> 
> 
> .......
> 
> 
> 
> ..........
> 
> 
> ...............
> 
> 
> THE COURTAULD TALKS!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ::::crickets:::
> 
> 
> Fuck Plastichead.
> 
> 
> Alex in NYC
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From bq at soundgardener.co.nz  Wed Nov  5 11:02:11 2008
From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 05:02:11 +1300 (NZDT)
Subject: [kj] OT: Web rage
In-Reply-To: <BD60B2A89D16094897629D4CCC50B1CB3A482A@ED01VN01.NCL-HIS.NHS.UK>
References: <6017.203.210.68.145.1225899562.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz>
	<BD60B2A89D16094897629D4CCC50B1CB3A482A@ED01VN01.NCL-HIS.NHS.UK>
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Have you been paying attention on the list lately?

> Fucking ridiculous . . . Gaaah!!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
> On Behalf Of Brendan
> Sent: 05 November 2008 15:39
> To: gathering at misera.net
> Subject: [kj] OT: Web rage
>
>
> This seems appropriate:
>
> http://www.dailytech.com/Users+Flood+the+Internet+With+Web+Rage/article1
> 3358.htm
>
>
>
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From Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk  Wed Nov  5 11:05:10 2008
From: Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk (Phillipps Marc)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 16:05:10 -0000
Subject: [kj] OT: Web rage
References: <6017.203.210.68.145.1225899562.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz><BD60B2A89D16094897629D4CCC50B1CB3A482A@ED01VN01.NCL-HIS.NHS.UK>
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I am like an absentee parent . . 

Someone should call social services

:) 

-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
On Behalf Of Brendan
Sent: 05 November 2008 16:02
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Web rage


Have you been paying attention on the list lately?

> Fucking ridiculous . . . Gaaah!!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
> On Behalf Of Brendan
> Sent: 05 November 2008 15:39
> To: gathering at misera.net
> Subject: [kj] OT: Web rage
>
>
> This seems appropriate:
>
>
http://www.dailytech.com/Users+Flood+the+Internet+With+Web+Rage/article1
> 3358.htm
>
>
>
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From wessidetempest at hotmail.com  Wed Nov  5 11:13:36 2008
From: wessidetempest at hotmail.com (Christof hamille)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 11:13:36 -0500
Subject: [kj] Plasticheadbutted
In-Reply-To: <LDEIJONOCOIOOPJOEADEEEMOCKAA.bbarathy@btinternet.com>
References: <2D61E6E4-DB41-4392-A29D-834B9E63AC64@earthlink.net>
	<LDEIJONOCOIOOPJOEADEEEMOCKAA.bbarathy@btinternet.com>
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oh yes you can.

I owned the original lp version.  And a friend found a used CD of it some years ago and got it for me.

thanks

really

but I never listened to it (CD copy)

It's not dreadful.  It is just such a "fan only" type of release

Having said that I would have bought Gems of Power

Chris

> From: bbarathy at btinternet.com
> To: gathering at misera.net
> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 19:00:59 +0000
> Subject: Re: [kj] Plasticheadbutted
> 
> You can never own too many copies ;-)
> 
> 
> 
> See, though, here's the thing:   I ALREADY OWNED IT.
> 
> Alex in NYC
> 
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From folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com  Wed Nov  5 11:37:58 2008
From: folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com (folk devil)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 08:37:58 -0800
Subject: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d
In-Reply-To: <4911436E.7050409@sbcglobal.net>
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Do you not realise how worrying a line like this is to an 'outsider'?
Enjoy the feelgood factor..he may have said he will do a lot, whether he actually can, and I refer to the system not the man, is another matter.
As Mark Stewart would scream "PASSIFICATION!' ;)
Absolution time, I guess...me, the cynic."> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 00:55:42 -0600> From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d> > The USA is back, dogs. Big time. Hell yes.> > > -Oliver> _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
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From gingoblin at easynet.co.uk  Wed Nov  5 11:47:01 2008
From: gingoblin at easynet.co.uk (gingoblin at easynet.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 16:47:01 +0000
Subject: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d
In-Reply-To: <COL109-W9D149F3AA90DDE21B408BED1F0@phx.gbl>
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	<BLU120-W43AF3099AB5F674891180EB81F0@phx.gbl>
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The whole thing is like New Labour getting in here in 1997. Politicians 
should be judged on what they do, not what they say they're gonna do, since 
being a fucking liar is about the biggest part of the game. Let's see how 
joyful everyone is in 4 years. My prediction : not very fucking joyful at 
all!  Ah, happy happy day! Let's sing and dance!

Dave in Edinburgh






At 08:37 05/11/2008 -0800, you wrote:
>Do you not realise how worrying a line like this is to an 'outsider'?
>Enjoy the feelgood factor..he may have said he will do a lot, whether he 
>actually can, and I refer to the system not the man, is another matter.
>As Mark Stewart would scream "PASSIFICATION!' ;)
>Absolution time, I guess...me, the cynic.
>
>"
>
> > Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 00:55:42 -0600
> > From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net
> > To: gathering at misera.net
> > Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d
>
> >
> > The USA is back, dogs. Big time. Hell yes.
> >
> >
> > -Oliver
> > _______________________________________________
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From fluwdot at earthlink.net  Wed Nov  5 12:05:50 2008
From: fluwdot at earthlink.net (fluw)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 12:05:50 -0500
Subject: [kj] ot - dear red states
Message-ID: <E1KxlpF-00021T-B7@elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

>From a random poster on the net:

 

 

 

--------------------------------

 

 

 

Dear Red States:
If you manage to steal this election too we've decided we're leaving.  We
intend to form our own country, and we're taking the other Blue States with
us. In case you aren't aware, that includes California , Hawaii , Oregon ,
Washington , Minnesota , Wisconsin , Michigan , Illinois  and all the
Northeast. We believe this split will be beneficial to the nation, and
especially to the people of the new country of New California.
To sum up briefly:

You get Texas , Oklahoma and all the slave states.

We get stem cell research and the best beaches.

We get the Statue of Liberty.

You get Dollywood.

We get Intel and Microsoft.

You get WorldCom.


We get  Harvard.

You get Ole' Miss.


We get 85% of America 's venture capital and entrepreneurs.

You get Alabama.


We get two-thirds of the tax revenue, you get to make the red states 
pay their fair share.


Since our aggregate divorce rate is 22% lower than the Christian
Coalition's, we get a bunch of happy families.

You get a bunch of single moms.


Please be aware that Nuevo California will be pro-choice and anti-war,  and
we're going to want all our citizens back from Iraq at once. If you need
people to fight, ask your evangelicals. They have kids they're apparently
willing to send to their deaths for no purpose, and they don't care if you
don't show pictures of their children's caskets coming home. We do wish you
success in Iraq , and hope that the WMDs turn up, but we're not willing to
spend our resources in Bush's Quagmire.


With the Blue States in hand, we will have firm control of 80% of the
country's fresh water, more than 90% of the pineapple and lettuce, 92% of
the nation's fresh fruit, 95% of America's quality wines, 90% of all cheese,
90% of the high tech industry, 95% of the corn and soybeans (thanks Iowa!),
most of the U.S. low-sulfur coal, all living redwoods, sequoias and condors,
all the Ivy and Seven Sister schools plus Stanford, Cal Tech and MIT.


With the Red States, on the other hand, you will have to cope with 88% of
all obese Americans (and their projected health care costs), 92% of all U.S.
mosquitoes, nearly 100% of the tornadoes, 90% of the hurricanes, 99% of all
Southern Baptists, virtually 100% of all televangelists, Rush Limbaugh, Bob
Jones University, Clemson and the University of Georgia.



 

 



We get Hollywood and Yosemite , thank you.


Additionally, 38% of those in the Red states believe Jonah was actually
swallowed by a whale, 62% believe life is sacred unless we're discussing the
war, the death penalty or gun laws, 44% say that evolution is only a theory,
53% believe that Saddam was involved in 9/11 and 61% of you crazy bastards
believe you are people with higher morals then we lefties.


Finally, we're taking the good pot, too. You can have that dirt weed they
grow in Mexico


Peace out,

Blue States

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From folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com  Wed Nov  5 12:20:28 2008
From: folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com (folk devil)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 09:20:28 -0800
Subject: [kj] ot - dear red states
In-Reply-To: <E1KxlpF-00021T-B7@elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
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LOL!
 
That map does look weird, though...huge red blob in the middle..people who actually voted for McCain n' Palin!!!
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From saulomar1 at yahoo.com  Wed Nov  5 13:18:53 2008
From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com (sade1)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 10:18:53 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [kj] Undone
References: <190819.93044.qm@web23204.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <761419.66351.qm@web52605.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

> London is being sold off to Saudi Arabia, 

Oh shit, that right. So the Saudis have title now to LON? Oh well, at least no one's?gonna be foreclosing on Britain anytime soon.?

"who do you need, 
? whodo you love.. 
?? when you come?undone...." ~~ duranduran
?
... ... ... ... ... ... 

[looking at the current?state of things..]
?
'Save me...
? save me?from Tomorrow..
??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? 





________________________________
From: Palin's Political Death Rattle <crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2008 7:24:33 AM
Subject: [kj] Undone


WRONG
McCain did not get London.
London is being sold off to Saudi Arabia, to beat the
CREDIT CRUNCH

Republicans Out Forever!


      
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From saulomar1 at yahoo.com  Wed Nov  5 13:22:42 2008
From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com (sade1)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 10:22:42 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [kj] OT: Web rage
References: <6017.203.210.68.145.1225899562.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz><BD60B2A89D16094897629D4CCC50B1CB3A482A@ED01VN01.NCL-HIS.NHS.UK>
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> I am like an absentee parent . . 
> Someone should call social services

?But if they take the Gathering away from you, it'll be put into some sort of AOL'ish or Geocities foster care. nooooo!


... ... ... ... ... ... 

[looking at the current?state of things..]
?
'Save me...
? save me?from Tomorrow..
??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? 





________________________________
From: Phillipps Marc <Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2008 8:05:10 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Web rage

I am like an absentee parent . . 

Someone should call social services

:) 

-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
On Behalf Of Brendan
Sent: 05 November 2008 16:02
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Web rage


Have you been paying attention on the list lately?

> Fucking ridiculous . . . Gaaah!!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
> On Behalf Of Brendan
> Sent: 05 November 2008 15:39
> To: gathering at misera.net
> Subject: [kj] OT: Web rage
>
>
> This seems appropriate:
>
>
http://www.dailytech.com/Users+Flood+the+Internet+With+Web+Rage/article1
> 3358.htm
>
>
>
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From saulomar1 at yahoo.com  Wed Nov  5 13:27:23 2008
From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com (sade1)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 10:27:23 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [kj] ot - dear red states
References: <E1KxlpF-00021T-B7@elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
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> That map does look weird, though...huge red blob in the middle..

Further proof that the Red mentality and?that whole Red world literally does divide the country?

?
... ... ... ... ... ... 

[looking at the current?state of things..]
?
'Save me...
? save me?from Tomorrow..
??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? 





________________________________
From: folk devil <folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2008 9:20:28 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] ot - dear red states

LOL!
?
That map does look weird, though...huge red blob in the middle..people who actually voted for McCain?n' Palin!!!

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From saulomar1 at yahoo.com  Wed Nov  5 13:28:11 2008
From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com (sade1)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 10:28:11 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [kj] ot - dear red states
References: <E1KxlpF-00021T-B7@elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <278125.42286.qm@web52608.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I would sign that?on paper as if it were the Declaration?Of Independence all over again..

?
... ... ... ... ... ... 

[looking at the current?state of things..]
?
'Save me...
? save me?from Tomorrow..
??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? 





________________________________
From: fluw <fluwdot at earthlink.net>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2008 9:05:50 AM
Subject: [kj] ot - dear red states


From a random poster on the net:
?
?
?
--------------------------------
?
?
?
Dear Red States:
If you?manage to steal this election too we've decided we're leaving.??We intend?to form our own country, and we're taking the other Blue States with us. In?case you aren't aware, that includes California , Hawaii , Oregon , Washington?, Minnesota , Wisconsin , Michigan , Illinois??and all the Northeast. We?believe this split will be beneficial to the nation, and especially to the?people of the new country of New California.
To sum up?briefly:

You get Texas , Oklahoma and all the slave states.

We get?stem cell research and the best beaches.

We get the Statue of?Liberty.

You get Dollywood.

We get Intel and Microsoft.

You get?WorldCom.


We get??Harvard.

You get Ole' Miss.


We get 85%?of America 's venture capital and entrepreneurs.

You get Alabama .


We get two-thirds of the tax revenue, you get to make the red states?
pay their fair share.


Since our aggregate divorce rate is 22% lower?than the Christian Coalition's, we get a bunch of happy families.

You get a?bunch of single moms.


Please be aware that Nuevo California will be?pro-choice and anti-war,??and we're going to want all our citizens back?from Iraq at once. If you need people to fight, ask your evangelicals. They?have kids they're apparently willing to send to their deaths for no purpose,?and they don't care if you don't show pictures of their children's caskets?coming home. We do wish you success in Iraq , and hope that the WMDs turn up,?but we're not willing to spend our resources in Bush's Quagmire.


With?the Blue States in hand, we will have firm control of 80% of the country's?fresh water, more than 90% of the pineapple and lettuce, 92% of the nation's?fresh fruit, 95% of America's quality wines, 90% of all cheese, 90% of the?high tech industry, 95% of the corn and soybeans (thanks Iowa!), most of the?U.S. low-sulfur coal, all living redwoods, sequoias and condors, all the Ivy?and Seven Sister schools plus Stanford, Cal Tech and MIT.


With the Red?States, on the other hand, you will have to cope with 88% of all obese?Americans (and their projected health care costs), 92% of all U.S. mosquitoes,?nearly 100% of the tornadoes, 90% of the hurricanes, 99% of all Southern?Baptists, virtually 100% of all televangelists, Rush Limbaugh, Bob Jones?University, Clemson and the University of Georgia.


?
?


We get Hollywood and? Yosemite , thank you.


Additionally, 38% of those in the Red states?believe Jonah was actually swallowed by a whale, 62% believe life is sacred?unless we're discussing the war, the death penalty or gun laws, 44% say that?evolution is only a theory, 53% believe that Saddam was involved in 9/11 and?61% of you crazy bastards believe you are people with higher morals then we?lefties.


Finally, we're taking the good pot, too. You can have that?dirt weed they grow in Mexico


Peace out,

Blue?States


      
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From bq at soundgardener.co.nz  Wed Nov  5 13:36:43 2008
From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 07:36:43 +1300 (NZDT)
Subject: [kj] Undone
In-Reply-To: <761419.66351.qm@web52605.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <190819.93044.qm@web23204.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
	<761419.66351.qm@web52605.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <16974.203.185.215.144.1225910203.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz>

Not least because they don't want to inherit Duran Duran ;p

>> London is being sold off to Saudi Arabia,
>
> Oh shit, that right. So the Saudis have title now to LON? Oh well, at
> least no one's?gonna be foreclosing on Britain anytime soon.?
>
> "who do you need,
> ? whodo you love..
> ?? when you come?undone...." ~~ duranduran
> ?
> ... ... ... ... ... ...
>
> [looking at the current?state of things..]
> ?
> 'Save me...
> ? save me?from Tomorrow..
> ??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'??
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Palin's Political Death Rattle <crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk>
> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
> <gathering at misera.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2008 7:24:33 AM
> Subject: [kj] Undone
>
>
> WRONG
> McCain did not get London.
> London is being sold off to Saudi Arabia, to beat the
> CREDIT CRUNCH
>
> Republicans Out Forever!
>
>
>       _______________________________________________
> Gathering mailing list
> Gathering at misera.net
> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
>



From bq at soundgardener.co.nz  Wed Nov  5 13:38:11 2008
From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 07:38:11 +1300 (NZDT)
Subject: [kj] ot - dear red states
In-Reply-To: <278125.42286.qm@web52608.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <E1KxlpF-00021T-B7@elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<278125.42286.qm@web52608.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <18554.203.185.215.144.1225910291.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz>

Poor old Olly would end up Munsoned down in Texas...

> I would sign that?on paper as if it were the Declaration?Of Independence
> all over again..
>
> ?
> ... ... ... ... ... ...
>
> [looking at the current?state of things..]
> ?
> 'Save me...
> ? save me?from Tomorrow..
> ??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'??
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: fluw <fluwdot at earthlink.net>
> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
> <gathering at misera.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2008 9:05:50 AM
> Subject: [kj] ot - dear red states
>
>
> From a random poster on the net:
> ?
> ?
> ?
> --------------------------------
> ?
> ?
> ?
> Dear Red States:
> If you?manage to steal this election too we've decided we're leaving.??We
> intend?to form our own country, and we're taking the other Blue States
> with us. In?case you aren't aware, that includes California , Hawaii ,
> Oregon , Washington?, Minnesota , Wisconsin , Michigan , Illinois??and all
> the Northeast. We?believe this split will be beneficial to the nation, and
> especially to the?people of the new country of New California.
> To sum up?briefly:
>
> You get Texas , Oklahoma and all the slave states.
>
> We get?stem cell research and the best beaches.
>
> We get the Statue of?Liberty.
>
> You get Dollywood.
>
> We get Intel and Microsoft.
>
> You get?WorldCom.
>
>
> We get??Harvard.
>
> You get Ole' Miss.
>
>
> We get 85%?of America 's venture capital and entrepreneurs.
>
> You get Alabama .
>
>
> We get two-thirds of the tax revenue, you get to make the red states?
> pay their fair share.
>
>
> Since our aggregate divorce rate is 22% lower?than the Christian
> Coalition's, we get a bunch of happy families.
>
> You get a?bunch of single moms.
>
>
> Please be aware that Nuevo California will be?pro-choice and
> anti-war,??and we're going to want all our citizens back?from Iraq at
> once. If you need people to fight, ask your evangelicals. They?have kids
> they're apparently willing to send to their deaths for no purpose,?and
> they don't care if you don't show pictures of their children's
> caskets?coming home. We do wish you success in Iraq , and hope that the
> WMDs turn up,?but we're not willing to spend our resources in Bush's
> Quagmire.
>
>
> With?the Blue States in hand, we will have firm control of 80% of the
> country's?fresh water, more than 90% of the pineapple and lettuce, 92% of
> the nation's?fresh fruit, 95% of America's quality wines, 90% of all
> cheese, 90% of the?high tech industry, 95% of the corn and soybeans
> (thanks Iowa!), most of the?U.S. low-sulfur coal, all living redwoods,
> sequoias and condors, all the Ivy?and Seven Sister schools plus Stanford,
> Cal Tech and MIT.
>
>
> With the Red?States, on the other hand, you will have to cope with 88% of
> all obese?Americans (and their projected health care costs), 92% of all
> U.S. mosquitoes,?nearly 100% of the tornadoes, 90% of the hurricanes, 99%
> of all Southern?Baptists, virtually 100% of all televangelists, Rush
> Limbaugh, Bob Jones?University, Clemson and the University of Georgia.
>
>
> ?
> ?
>
>
> We get Hollywood and? Yosemite , thank you.
>
>
> Additionally, 38% of those in the Red states?believe Jonah was actually
> swallowed by a whale, 62% believe life is sacred?unless we're discussing
> the war, the death penalty or gun laws, 44% say that?evolution is only a
> theory, 53% believe that Saddam was involved in 9/11 and?61% of you crazy
> bastards believe you are people with higher morals then we?lefties.
>
>
> Finally, we're taking the good pot, too. You can have that?dirt weed they
> grow in Mexico
>
>
> Peace out,
>
> Blue?States
>
>
>       _______________________________________________
> Gathering mailing list
> Gathering at misera.net
> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
>



From humanhybrid666 at gmail.com  Wed Nov  5 13:45:22 2008
From: humanhybrid666 at gmail.com (bongo)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 07:45:22 +1300
Subject: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this
In-Reply-To: <13486.203.210.68.145.1225892269.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz>
References: <BLU120-W43AF3099AB5F674891180EB81F0@phx.gbl>
	<11275421C50246248A3C1172839C0A13@Bell2007PC>
	<F34523AE3C6A4C98A6560F67E401F22A@edweil>
	<13486.203.210.68.145.1225892269.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz>
Message-ID: <ce16091e0811051045n332531d5v1d3b90ff36181cc5@mail.gmail.com>

if i may raise my voice just a little... i dont think the seppo's "..FINALLY
made a move to get rid of bush" that just sounds too pro-active..... change
happened along a predetermined course and no real change has been made
except to the window dressing... the world is still fucked in the hands of
these cnuts...


=)

~jb.   (not voting - never has never will)




On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 2:37 AM, Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> wrote:

> I didn't want to get too cocky, but like I said, I think the media made
> out like it was a competition when it never was at all. If for no other
> reason than Americans have FINALLY made a decisive move to get the fuck
> rid of Bush. I raised a drink to that last night before I went to bed
> without 'knowing' that Obama had won.
>
> > Howdy, TB:
> >
> > Let's not get too carried away, yet . But I like your optimism,
> > regardless!
> >
> > k.w.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "TB" <partyslammer at socal.rr.com>
> > To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
> > <gathering at misera.net>
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 6:07 PM
> > Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this
> >
> >
> >> "melinda grant" wrote:
> >>
> >> i wish i could be in the u.s.a for all this election feaver,i could not
> >> vote anyhow as i am british citizen and in u.k at mo---i have several
> >> great aunts and about 30 cousins spread over u.s.a they would have
> >> voted--i really hope obama gets in i really do or i predict a riot if he
> >> does not--if for instance he looses by a slight few votes ;(
> >>
> >> +++++++++
> >>
> >> Already, Obama has 174 to McCains' measly 49 electoral votes (either
> >> candidate needs 270 or more to win).  The news broadcasts are
> >> practically
> >> chomping at the bit to call the race but aren't because polls don't
> >> close
> >> here on the West Coast for another two hours, plus they'll lose viewers.
> >> There is zero doubt Obama will win, and in fact it could be one of the
> >> biggest landslides in US history.
> >>
> >> T.B.
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Gathering mailing list
> >> Gathering at misera.net
> >> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
> >>
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Gathering mailing list
> > Gathering at misera.net
> > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
> >
>
>
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>



-- 


"due to a lack of trained trumpeters, the end of the world has been
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From saulomar1 at yahoo.com  Wed Nov  5 13:45:31 2008
From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com (sade1)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 10:45:31 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [kj] ot - dear red states
References: <E1KxlpF-00021T-B7@elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<278125.42286.qm@web52608.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<18554.203.185.215.144.1225910291.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz>
Message-ID: <910596.8742.qm@web52601.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

We will start an airlift here in the blue states for all?Gathering refugees wishing to leave.


?
... ... ... ... ... ... 

[looking at the current?state of things..]
?
'Save me...
? save me?from Tomorrow..
??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? 





________________________________
From: Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2008 10:38:11 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] ot - dear red states

Poor old Olly would end up Munsoned down in Texas...

> I would sign that?on paper as if it were the Declaration?Of Independence
> all over again..
>
> ?
> ... ... ... ... ... ...
>
> [looking at the current?state of things..]
> ?
> 'Save me...
> ? save me?from Tomorrow..
> ??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'??
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: fluw <fluwdot at earthlink.net>
> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
> <gathering at misera.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2008 9:05:50 AM
> Subject: [kj] ot - dear red states
>
>
> From a random poster on the net:
> ?
> ?
> ?
> --------------------------------
> ?
> ?
> ?
> Dear Red States:
> If you?manage to steal this election too we've decided we're leaving.??We
> intend?to form our own country, and we're taking the other Blue States
> with us. In?case you aren't aware, that includes California , Hawaii ,
> Oregon , Washington?, Minnesota , Wisconsin , Michigan , Illinois??and all
> the Northeast. We?believe this split will be beneficial to the nation, and
> especially to the?people of the new country of New California.
> To sum up?briefly:
>
> You get Texas , Oklahoma and all the slave states.
>
> We get?stem cell research and the best beaches.
>
> We get the Statue of?Liberty.
>
> You get Dollywood.
>
> We get Intel and Microsoft.
>
> You get?WorldCom.
>
>
> We get??Harvard.
>
> You get Ole' Miss.
>
>
> We get 85%?of America 's venture capital and entrepreneurs.
>
> You get Alabama .
>
>
> We get two-thirds of the tax revenue, you get to make the red states?
> pay their fair share.
>
>
> Since our aggregate divorce rate is 22% lower?than the Christian
> Coalition's, we get a bunch of happy families.
>
> You get a?bunch of single moms.
>
>
> Please be aware that Nuevo California will be?pro-choice and
> anti-war,??and we're going to want all our citizens back?from Iraq at
> once. If you need people to fight, ask your evangelicals. They?have kids
> they're apparently willing to send to their deaths for no purpose,?and
> they don't care if you don't show pictures of their children's
> caskets?coming home. We do wish you success in Iraq , and hope that the
> WMDs turn up,?but we're not willing to spend our resources in Bush's
> Quagmire.
>
>
> With?the Blue States in hand, we will have firm control of 80% of the
> country's?fresh water, more than 90% of the pineapple and lettuce, 92% of
> the nation's?fresh fruit, 95% of America's quality wines, 90% of all
> cheese, 90% of the?high tech industry, 95% of the corn and soybeans
> (thanks Iowa!), most of the?U.S. low-sulfur coal, all living redwoods,
> sequoias and condors, all the Ivy?and Seven Sister schools plus Stanford,
> Cal Tech and MIT.
>
>
> With the Red?States, on the other hand, you will have to cope with 88% of
> all obese?Americans (and their projected health care costs), 92% of all
> U.S. mosquitoes,?nearly 100% of the tornadoes, 90% of the hurricanes, 99%
> of all Southern?Baptists, virtually 100% of all televangelists, Rush
> Limbaugh, Bob Jones?University, Clemson and the University of Georgia.
>
>
> ?
> ?
>
>
> We get Hollywood and? Yosemite , thank you.
>
>
> Additionally, 38% of those in the Red states?believe Jonah was actually
> swallowed by a whale, 62% believe life is sacred?unless we're discussing
> the war, the death penalty or gun laws, 44% say that?evolution is only a
> theory, 53% believe that Saddam was involved in 9/11 and?61% of you crazy
> bastards believe you are people with higher morals then we?lefties.
>
>
> Finally, we're taking the good pot, too. You can have that?dirt weed they
> grow in Mexico
>
>
> Peace out,
>
> Blue?States
>
>
>? ? ? _______________________________________________
> Gathering mailing list
> Gathering at misera.net
> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
>


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From saulomar1 at yahoo.com  Wed Nov  5 13:51:02 2008
From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com (sade1)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 10:51:02 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a Kenyan Wardance!
References: <633572.85930.qm@web23208.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <926392.13321.qm@web52601.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

> ..screw up 'Foreign Ploicy' worse...

On that note...?

? ..just?after Obama's speech the Russians said they will move missiles right up next?to Poland and Lithuania and?promised to use?electronic technology to interfere?with soon-to-be-placed american?missile defense installations?and radar stations in both those countries.
?


... ... ... ... ... ... 

[looking at the current?state of things..]
?
'Save me...
? save me?from Tomorrow..
??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? 





________________________________
From: Palin's Political Death Rattle <crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2008 7:16:34 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a Kenyan Wardance!

Well it seems very unlikely that Obama will screw up 
'Foreign Ploicy' worse than those warmongers Rumslfed, Chainy, Ashcroft and their retard puppet stooge Dubya!

--- On Wed, 5/11/08, fluw <fluwdot at earthlink.net> wrote:

> From: fluw <fluwdot at earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d
> To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" <gathering at misera.net>
> Date: Wednesday, 5 November, 2008, 2:59 PM
> I hope you are right, and the healthcare changes should
> bring benefits to
> the economy.
> 
> Obama's words are encouraging and I feel his
> comprehension, intelligence and
> class may help in international affairs. But until energy
> usage - America's
> demands change - then our lifestyle will usurp any hope of
> a peaceful world.
> 
> 
> But before then it will be china's turn to do the
> fucking. Get out the lube
> y'all.
> 
> 2012 can't come soon enough
> 
>? ? 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
> Behalf Of Brendan
> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 9:43 AM
> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
> Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d
> 
> Gotta disagree...
> 
> I was reading recently that the boom / bust cycle for quite
> a while in the
> US has been Democrat for the booms and Republicans for the
> busts...
> 
> Any changes in healthcare alone will have a big effect on
> the economy,
> according to what I've read there's a massive
> looming crisis with the
> increased spend on healthcare - with the baby boomers
> starting to enter
> retirement from 2011 on...9some would be trickling through
> early already).
> 
> >From what I gather a lot of baby boomers are going to
> want to sell their
> houses as they retire and transfer the $ into cash and
> similar, so there
> may be a glut off houses on the market, further harming
> prices...
> 
> There's no doubt that the Dems now being in such a
> position of power will
> have a marked effect on the economy, and I think Obama is
> going to be a
> change for the better in terms of the US's
> international relations.
> 
> 
> > I am excited about Obama and for what 'he
> says' he will do, especially
> > here
> > in the US socially - and I look forward to the
> possibilities of people
> > coming together in the US, but anyone who thinks Obama
> is going to make
> > drastic change overseas, in the environment, or
> fiscally is a fool.
> >
> >
> >
> > The world is America's bitch and she likes to have
> her ass reamed.
> >
> >
> >
> > Ralph Nader or Cynthia McKinney would be the only
> candidates able to offer
> > change that benefits those who suffer at the hands of
> America!
> >
> >
> >
> > Everything will be the same 'cept the US
> basketball courts and jobsites
> > will
> > have more inter
> >
> > - racial camaraderie.maybe.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >? _____
> >
> > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
> > On
> > Behalf Of Matthew Burke
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 12:42 AM
> > To: gathering
> > Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d
> >
> >
> >
> > Wow, another Wall St. puppet that openly embraces war
> . . . things should
> > change immediately.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Gathering mailing list
> > Gathering at misera.net
> > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
> >
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Gathering mailing list
> Gathering at misera.net
> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From saulomar1 at yahoo.com  Wed Nov  5 13:52:32 2008
From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com (sade1)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 10:52:32 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [kj] ot - dear red states
References: <E1KxlpF-00021T-B7@elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<278125.42286.qm@web52608.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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> for all?Gathering refugees wishing to leave.

Ha, i meant all Gatherers wishing to leave the RED states for a blue one.

?
... ... ... ... ... ... 

[looking at the current?state of things..]
?
'Save me...
? save me?from Tomorrow..
??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? 





________________________________
From: sade1 <saulomar1 at yahoo.com>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2008 10:45:31 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] ot - dear red states


We will start an airlift here in the blue states for all?Gathering refugees wishing to leave.


?
... ... ... ... ... ... 

[looking at the current?state of things..]
?
'Save me...
? save me?from Tomorrow..
??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? 





________________________________
From: Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2008 10:38:11 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] ot - dear red states

Poor old Olly would end up Munsoned down in Texas...

> I would sign that?on paper as if it were the Declaration?Of Independence
> all over again..
>
> ?
> ... ... ... ... ... ...
>
> [looking at the current?state of things..]
> ?
> 'Save me...
> ? save me?from Tomorrow..
> ??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'??
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: fluw <fluwdot at earthlink.net>
> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
> <gathering at misera.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2008 9:05:50 AM
> Subject: [kj] ot - dear red states
>
>
> From a random poster on the net:
> ?
> ?
> ?
> --------------------------------
> ?
> ?
> ?
> Dear Red States:
> If you?manage to steal this election too we've decided we're leaving.??We
> intend?to form our own country, and we're taking the other Blue States
> with us. In?case you aren't aware, that includes California , Hawaii ,
> Oregon , Washington?, Minnesota , Wisconsin , Michigan , Illinois??and all
> the Northeast. We?believe this split will be beneficial to the nation, and
> especially to the?people of the new country of New California.
> To sum up?briefly:
>
> You get Texas , Oklahoma and all the slave states.
>
> We get?stem cell research and the best beaches.
>
> We get the Statue of?Liberty.
>
> You get Dollywood.
>
> We get Intel and Microsoft.
>
> You get?WorldCom.
>
>
> We get??Harvard.
>
> You get Ole' Miss.
>
>
> We get 85%?of America 's venture capital and entrepreneurs.
>
> You get Alabama .
>
>
> We get two-thirds of the tax revenue, you get to make the red states?
> pay their fair share.
>
>
> Since our aggregate divorce rate is 22% lower?than the Christian
> Coalition's, we get a bunch of happy families.
>
> You get a?bunch of single moms.
>
>
> Please be aware that Nuevo California will be?pro-choice and
> anti-war,??and we're going to want all our citizens back?from Iraq at
> once. If you need people to fight, ask your evangelicals. They?have kids
> they're apparently willing to send to their deaths for no purpose,?and
> they don't care if you don't show pictures of their children's
> caskets?coming home. We do wish you success in Iraq , and hope that the
> WMDs turn up,?but we're not willing to spend our resources in Bush's
> Quagmire.
>
>
> With?the Blue States in hand, we will have firm control of 80% of the
> country's?fresh water, more than 90% of the pineapple and lettuce, 92% of
> the nation's?fresh fruit, 95% of America's quality wines, 90% of all
> cheese, 90% of the?high tech industry, 95% of the corn and soybeans
> (thanks Iowa!), most of the?U.S. low-sulfur coal, all living redwoods,
> sequoias and condors, all the Ivy?and Seven Sister schools plus Stanford,
> Cal Tech and MIT.
>
>
> With the Red?States, on the other hand, you will have to cope with 88% of
> all obese?Americans (and their projected health care costs), 92% of all
> U.S. mosquitoes,?nearly 100% of the tornadoes, 90% of the hurricanes, 99%
> of all Southern?Baptists, virtually 100% of all televangelists, Rush
> Limbaugh, Bob Jones?University, Clemson and the University of Georgia.
>
>
> ?
> ?
>
>
> We get Hollywood and? Yosemite , thank you.
>
>
> Additionally, 38% of those in the Red states?believe Jonah was actually
> swallowed by a whale, 62% believe life is sacred?unless we're discussing
> the war, the death penalty or gun laws, 44% say that?evolution is only a
> theory, 53% believe that Saddam was involved in 9/11 and?61% of you crazy
> bastards believe you are people with higher morals then we?lefties.
>
>
> Finally, we're taking the good pot, too. You can have that?dirt weed they
> grow in Mexico
>
>
> Peace out,
>
> Blue?States
>
>
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From karen.weil at sddt.com  Wed Nov  5 13:59:51 2008
From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 10:59:51 -0800
Subject: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart
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Not perhaps the most brillant speech, but I think it was more sobering than 
anything. Basically, he was saying, "We're gonna have a hard road to hoe."
What the next four years will bring is anyone's guess, but let's all hope 
for the best.

Cheers,

k.w.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sarah's Putrefying Kunt" <crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk>
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
<gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 6:37 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart


> Obama's acceptance speech was rather vacuous wasn't it?
>
>
>
> --- On Wed, 5/11/08, fluw <fluwdot at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> From: fluw <fluwdot at earthlink.net>
>> Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d
>> To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" 
>> <gathering at misera.net>
>> Date: Wednesday, 5 November, 2008, 2:07 PM
>> I am excited about Obama and for what 'he says' he
>> will do, especially here
>> in the US socially - and I look forward to the
>> possibilities of people
>> coming together in the US, but anyone who thinks Obama is
>> going to make
>> drastic change overseas, in the environment, or fiscally is
>> a fool.
>>
>>
>>
>> The world is America's bitch and she likes to have her
>> ass reamed.
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From karen.weil at sddt.com  Wed Nov  5 14:07:10 2008
From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 11:07:10 -0800
Subject: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this
References: <BLU120-W43AF3099AB5F674891180EB81F0@phx.gbl><11275421C50246248A3C1172839C0A13@Bell2007PC><F34523AE3C6A4C98A6560F67E401F22A@edweil>
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And how right you were, sade!  : )
I concede! 

k.w.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: sade1 
  To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 6:35 PM
  Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this


  > Let's not get too carried away.. 

  I will. ;)

  John McCain lost Pennsylvania, John McCain lost Ohio: John McCain lost.  Obama is President.



  ... ... ... ... ... ... 

  [looking at the current state of things..]

  'Save me...
    save me from Tomorrow..
      I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'   






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  From: Karen Weil <karen.weil at sddt.com>
  To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
  Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2008 6:14:46 PM
  Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this

  Howdy, TB:

  Let's not get too carried away, yet . But I like your optimism, regardless!

  k.w.


  ----- Original Message ----- From: "TB" <partyslammer at socal.rr.com>
  To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
  Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 6:07 PM
  Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this


  > "melinda grant" wrote:
  > 
  > i wish i could be in the u.s.a for all this election feaver,i could not vote anyhow as i am british citizen and in u.k at mo---i have several great aunts and about 30 cousins spread over u.s.a they would have voted--i really hope obama gets in i really do or i predict a riot if he does not--if for instance he looses by a slight few votes ;(
  > 
  > +++++++++
  > 
  > Already, Obama has 174 to McCains' measly 49 electoral votes (either candidate needs 270 or more to win).  The news broadcasts are practically chomping at the bit to call the race but aren't because polls don't close here on the West Coast for another two hours, plus they'll lose viewers. There is zero doubt Obama will win, and in fact it could be one of the biggest landslides in US history.
  > 
  > T.B.
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From ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk  Wed Nov  5 14:15:41 2008
From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk (ade)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 19:15:41 -0000
Subject: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d
Message-ID: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC0722A3@mr-pants.the-lab.local>

I think the right will simply say to the black community "no excuses now, a black man made it to presidency"

-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of fluw
Sent: 05 November 2008 14:07
To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d



I am excited about Obama and for what 'he says' he will do, especially here in the US socially - and I look forward to the possibilities of people coming together in the US, but anyone who thinks Obama is going to make drastic change overseas, in the environment, or fiscally is a fool.

 

The world is America's bitch and she likes to have her ass reamed.

 

Ralph Nader or Cynthia McKinney would be the only candidates able to offer change that benefits those who suffer at the hands of America!

 

Everything will be the same 'cept the US basketball courts and jobsites will have more inter 

- racial camaraderie...maybe. 

 

 


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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Matthew Burke
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 12:42 AM
To: gathering
Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d

 

Wow, another Wall St. puppet that openly embraces war . . . things should change immediately.

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From saulomar1 at yahoo.com  Wed Nov  5 14:23:47 2008
From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com (sade1)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 11:23:47 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this
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> And how right you were
?
Hail Caesar!
?

But I am still genuinely stunned and amazed that the Republicans didn't steal it. But?then, who would want to steal power in this America and its horrible conditions right now. Maybe they thought it's a lose-lose situation, "no thanks."

I think the meaning in his speech was in the tone with which he gave it, as if it dawned on him noe even more that he now has (given?the unbelievable condtitions u.s./world are in) the most unenviable job in the world, and in this real-time Reality, too, ifyouknowwhatImean....? 

Godspeed to you, black Emperor.

no i never heard 
that band, i just 
thought it fit the above.


... ... ... ... ... ... 

[looking at the current?state of things..]
?
'Save me...
? save me?from Tomorrow..
??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? 





________________________________
From: Karen Weil <karen.weil at sddt.com>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2008 11:07:10 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this


And how right you were, sade!? : )
I concede! 
?
k.w.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: sade1 
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) 
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 6:35 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this

> Let's not get too carried away.. 

I will. ;)

John McCain lost Pennsylvania, John McCain lost Ohio: John McCain lost.? Obama is President.



... ... ... ... ... ... 

[looking at the current?state of things..]
?
'Save me...
? save me?from Tomorrow..
??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? 





________________________________
From: Karen Weil <karen.weil at sddt.com>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2008 6:14:46 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this

Howdy, TB:

Let's not get too carried away, yet . But I like your optimism, regardless!

k.w.


----- Original Message ----- From: "TB" <partyslammer at socal.rr.com>
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this


> "melinda grant" wrote:
> 
> i wish i could be in the u.s.a for all this election feaver,i could not vote anyhow as i am british citizen and in u.k at mo---i have several great aunts and about 30 cousins spread over u.s.a they would have voted--i really hope obama gets in i really do or i predict a riot if he does not--if for instance he looses by a slight few votes ;(
> 
> +++++++++
> 
> Already, Obama has 174 to McCains' measly 49 electoral votes (either candidate needs 270 or more to win).? The news broadcasts are practically chomping at the bit to call the race but aren't because polls don't close here on the West Coast for another two hours, plus they'll lose viewers. There is zero doubt Obama will win, and in fact it could be one of the biggest landslides in US history.
> 
> T.B.
> _______________________________________________
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From saulomar1 at yahoo.com  Wed Nov  5 14:30:09 2008
From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com (sade1)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 11:30:09 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d
References: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC0722A3@mr-pants.the-lab.local>
Message-ID: <826117.88622.qm@web52612.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

> the right will simply say... "no excuses now, a black man made it..."

BINGO!! ding-ding-ding-ding!? OH! *Las Vegas flashbacks*

And not just the right, but all americans, who've felt that til-now-denied guilt over blacks.? 
Notice how lotsa articles have been ab out post-racial this, post-racial that, 'is this the end 
of Race,' '...the end of Race politics,'etc. as if "some" are dying to bypass the issue then 
believe it never existed. 

? Now, if blacks (individuals and group) don't rise up, people 
really will feel justified in openly calling them "lazy."

May the excuses begin...

... ... ... ... ... ... 

[looking at the current?state of things..]
?
'Save me...
? save me?from Tomorrow..
??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? 





________________________________
From: ade <ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2008 11:15:41 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d


I think the right will simply say to the black community "no excuses now, a black man made it to presidency"
-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of fluw
Sent: 05 November 2008 14:07
To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d


I am excited about Obama and for what ?he says? he will do, especially here in the US socially - and I look forward to the possibilities of people coming together in the US, but anyone who thinks Obama is going to make drastic change overseas, in the environment, or fiscally is a fool.
?
The world is America ?s bitch and she likes to have her ass reamed.
?
Ralph Nader or Cynthia McKinney would be the only candidates able to offer change that benefits those who suffer at the hands of America !
?
Everything will be the same ?cept the US basketball courts and jobsites will have more inter 
- racial camaraderie?maybe. 
?
?

________________________________

From:gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Matthew Burke
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 12:42 AM
To: gathering
Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d
?
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From bq at soundgardener.co.nz  Wed Nov  5 14:40:37 2008
From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 08:40:37 +1300 (NZDT)
Subject: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart
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The economic dramas worldwide, which I think are only just beginning, if
nothing else will provide Obama with a good excuse for not saving the
world (oh, sorry, the US) within the first 8 hours of his tenure...and
potentially 4 years down the track when he's looking for re-election (if
he hasn't been assassinated)...

> Not perhaps the most brillant speech, but I think it was more sobering
> than
> anything. Basically, he was saying, "We're gonna have a hard road to hoe."
> What the next four years will bring is anyone's guess, but let's all hope
> for the best.
>
> Cheers,
>
> k.w.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sarah's Putrefying Kunt" <crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk>
> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
> <gathering at misera.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 6:37 AM
> Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart
>
>
>> Obama's acceptance speech was rather vacuous wasn't it?
>>
>>
>>
>> --- On Wed, 5/11/08, fluw <fluwdot at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>>> From: fluw <fluwdot at earthlink.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d
>>> To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'"
>>> <gathering at misera.net>
>>> Date: Wednesday, 5 November, 2008, 2:07 PM
>>> I am excited about Obama and for what 'he says' he
>>> will do, especially here
>>> in the US socially - and I look forward to the
>>> possibilities of people
>>> coming together in the US, but anyone who thinks Obama is
>>> going to make
>>> drastic change overseas, in the environment, or fiscally is
>>> a fool.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The world is America's bitch and she likes to have her
>>> ass reamed.
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>
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From bq at soundgardener.co.nz  Wed Nov  5 14:56:22 2008
From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 08:56:22 +1300 (NZDT)
Subject: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a Kenyan Wardance!
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Forgive me if I snore through the next 40 years of the Cold War...wake me
when the bombs are dropping, I'll need time for a Deathwank.

Okay...AWESOME bandname, you heard it here first...DEATHWANK.

Lead singer, Onan the Barbarian (high-brow joke...):

onanism
"masturbation," 1727, from Onan, son of Judah (Gen. xxxviii.9), who
spilled his seed on the ground rather than impregnate his dead brother's
wife: "And Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and it came to pass,
when he went in unto his brother's wife, that he spilled it on the ground,
lest that he should give seed to his brother." Somehow this was twisted by
prudes into a prohibition of masturbation.

>> ..screw up 'Foreign Ploicy' worse...
>
> On that note...?
>
> ? ..just?after Obama's speech the Russians said they will move missiles
> right up next?to Poland and Lithuania and?promised to use?electronic
> technology to interfere?with soon-to-be-placed american?missile defense
> installations?and radar stations in both those countries.
> ?
>
>
> ... ... ... ... ... ...
>
> [looking at the current?state of things..]
> ?
> 'Save me...
> ? save me?from Tomorrow..
> ??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'??
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Palin's Political Death Rattle <crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk>
> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
> <gathering at misera.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2008 7:16:34 AM
> Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a Kenyan Wardance!
>
> Well it seems very unlikely that Obama will screw up
> 'Foreign Ploicy' worse than those warmongers Rumslfed, Chainy, Ashcroft
> and their retard puppet stooge Dubya!
>
> --- On Wed, 5/11/08, fluw <fluwdot at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> From: fluw <fluwdot at earthlink.net>
>> Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d
>> To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'"
>> <gathering at misera.net>
>> Date: Wednesday, 5 November, 2008, 2:59 PM
>> I hope you are right, and the healthcare changes should
>> bring benefits to
>> the economy.
>>
>> Obama's words are encouraging and I feel his
>> comprehension, intelligence and
>> class may help in international affairs. But until energy
>> usage - America's
>> demands change - then our lifestyle will usurp any hope of
>> a peaceful world.
>>
>>
>> But before then it will be china's turn to do the
>> fucking. Get out the lube
>> y'all.
>>
>> 2012 can't come soon enough
>>
>>? ?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
>> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
>> Behalf Of Brendan
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 9:43 AM
>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
>> Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d
>>
>> Gotta disagree...
>>
>> I was reading recently that the boom / bust cycle for quite
>> a while in the
>> US has been Democrat for the booms and Republicans for the
>> busts...
>>
>> Any changes in healthcare alone will have a big effect on
>> the economy,
>> according to what I've read there's a massive
>> looming crisis with the
>> increased spend on healthcare - with the baby boomers
>> starting to enter
>> retirement from 2011 on...9some would be trickling through
>> early already).
>>
>> >From what I gather a lot of baby boomers are going to
>> want to sell their
>> houses as they retire and transfer the $ into cash and
>> similar, so there
>> may be a glut off houses on the market, further harming
>> prices...
>>
>> There's no doubt that the Dems now being in such a
>> position of power will
>> have a marked effect on the economy, and I think Obama is
>> going to be a
>> change for the better in terms of the US's
>> international relations.
>>
>>
>> > I am excited about Obama and for what 'he
>> says' he will do, especially
>> > here
>> > in the US socially - and I look forward to the
>> possibilities of people
>> > coming together in the US, but anyone who thinks Obama
>> is going to make
>> > drastic change overseas, in the environment, or
>> fiscally is a fool.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > The world is America's bitch and she likes to have
>> her ass reamed.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Ralph Nader or Cynthia McKinney would be the only
>> candidates able to offer
>> > change that benefits those who suffer at the hands of
>> America!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Everything will be the same 'cept the US
>> basketball courts and jobsites
>> > will
>> > have more inter
>> >
>> > - racial camaraderie.maybe.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >? _____
>> >
>> > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
>> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
>> > On
>> > Behalf Of Matthew Burke
>> > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 12:42 AM
>> > To: gathering
>> > Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Wow, another Wall St. puppet that openly embraces war
>> . . . things should
>> > change immediately.
>> >
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From karen.weil at sddt.com  Wed Nov  5 14:56:53 2008
From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 11:56:53 -0800
Subject: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart
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Wow, Brendan -- such *positive* thinking!
Look, I  consider myself fully a realist, but  -- with all due respect, 
honestly -- spare me the cynicism.
Rhetoric aside, no one is expecting miracles from Obama or anyone else. But, 
sorry, I'll continue hoping for the best!

Boy howdy,

KW

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brendan" <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
<gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 11:40 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart


> The economic dramas worldwide, which I think are only just beginning, if
> nothing else will provide Obama with a good excuse for not saving the
> world (oh, sorry, the US) within the first 8 hours of his tenure...and
> potentially 4 years down the track when he's looking for re-election (if
> he hasn't been assassinated)...
>
>> Not perhaps the most brillant speech, but I think it was more sobering
>> than
>> anything. Basically, he was saying, "We're gonna have a hard road to 
>> hoe."
>> What the next four years will bring is anyone's guess, but let's all hope
>> for the best.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> k.w.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Sarah's Putrefying Kunt" <crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk>
>> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
>> <gathering at misera.net>
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 6:37 AM
>> Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart
>>
>>
>>> Obama's acceptance speech was rather vacuous wasn't it?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- On Wed, 5/11/08, fluw <fluwdot at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> From: fluw <fluwdot at earthlink.net>
>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d
>>>> To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'"
>>>> <gathering at misera.net>
>>>> Date: Wednesday, 5 November, 2008, 2:07 PM
>>>> I am excited about Obama and for what 'he says' he
>>>> will do, especially here
>>>> in the US socially - and I look forward to the
>>>> possibilities of people
>>>> coming together in the US, but anyone who thinks Obama is
>>>> going to make
>>>> drastic change overseas, in the environment, or fiscally is
>>>> a fool.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The world is America's bitch and she likes to have her
>>>> ass reamed.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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From bettedillinger at live.com  Wed Nov  5 14:57:38 2008
From: bettedillinger at live.com (Bette Dillinger)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 14:57:38 -0500
Subject: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart
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I told you all he was going to win and I got pissing and moaning yesterday......I RAWK! BLAHHHH!!! LOL
 
Nah, I thought his speech was mildly compelling.  I didn't think it was vacuous.  It addressed the major
issues that everyone will be experiencing.
 
Though I am cynical to the core about the whole process, when I saw that America had elected a Black
man over McSame, and he was standing there with his wife and two children waiting to speak, I have to admit that even my jaundiced eye had a tear in it.  
 
Bette    > Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 08:40:37 +1300> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart> > The economic dramas worldwide, which I think are only just beginning, if> nothing else will provide Obama with a good excuse for not saving the> world (oh, sorry, the US) within the first 8 hours of his tenure...and> potentially 4 years down the track when he's looking for re-election (if> he hasn't been assassinated)...> > > Not perhaps the most brillant speech, but I think it was more sobering> > than> > anything. Basically, he was saying, "We're gonna have a hard road to hoe."> > What the next four years will bring is anyone's guess, but let's all hope> > for the best.> >> > Cheers,> >> > k.w.> > ----- Original Message -----> > From: "Sarah's Putrefying Kunt" <crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk>> > To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"> > <gathering at misera.net>> > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 6:37 AM> > Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart> >> >> >> Obama's acceptance speech was rather vacuous wasn't it?> >>> >>> >>> >> --- On Wed, 5/11/08, fluw <fluwdot at earthlink.net> wrote:> >>> >>> From: fluw <fluwdot at earthlink.net>> >>> Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d> >>> To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'"> >>> <gathering at misera.net>> >>> Date: Wednesday, 5 November, 2008, 2:07 PM> >>> I am excited about Obama and for what 'he says' he> >>> will do, especially here> >>> in the US socially - and I look forward to the> >>> possibilities of people> >>> coming together in the US, but anyone who thinks Obama is> >>> going to make> >>> drastic change overseas, in the environment, or fiscally is> >>> a fool.> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> The world is America's bitch and she likes to have her> >>> ass reamed.> >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________> >> Gathering mailing list> >> Gathering at misera.net> >> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering> >>> >> > _______________________________________________> > Gathering mailing list> > Gathering at misera.net> > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering> >> > > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
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From bettedillinger at live.com  Wed Nov  5 15:00:56 2008
From: bettedillinger at live.com (Bette Dillinger)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 15:00:56 -0500
Subject: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d
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I also see people saying "Black people don't have it worse than white people.......look who is in the White House!  The President is Black, so there is no discrimination!".......like Stephen Colbert jokes, whites just "won't see race".

Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 11:30:09 -0800From: saulomar1 at yahoo.comTo: gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d




> the right will simply say... "no excuses now, a black man made it..."
 
BINGO!! ding-ding-ding-ding!  OH! *Las Vegas flashbacks*
 
And not just the right, but all americans, who've felt that til-now-denied guilt over blacks.  
Notice how lotsa articles have been ab out post-racial this, post-racial that, 'is this the end 
of Race,' '...the end of Race politics,'etc. as if "some" are dying to bypass the issue then 
believe it never existed. 
 
  Now, if blacks (individuals and group) don't rise up, people 
really will feel justified in openly calling them "lazy."
 
May the excuses begin...
 
... ... ... ... ... ... 
[looking at the current state of things..]
 
'Save me...
  save me from Tomorrow..
    I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'   
 




From: ade <ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2008 11:15:41 AMSubject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d


I think the right will simply say to the black community "no excuses now, a black man made it to presidency"

-----Original Message-----From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of fluwSent: 05 November 2008 14:07To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d

I am excited about Obama and for what ?he says? he will do, especially here in the US socially - and I look forward to the possibilities of people coming together in the US, but anyone who thinks Obama is going to make drastic change overseas, in the environment, or fiscally is a fool.
 
The world is America ?s bitch and she likes to have her ass reamed.
 
Ralph Nader or Cynthia McKinney would be the only candidates able to offer change that benefits those who suffer at the hands of America !
 
Everything will be the same ?cept the US basketball courts and jobsites will have more inter 
- racial camaraderie?maybe. 
 
 




From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Matthew BurkeSent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 12:42 AMTo: gatheringSubject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d
 
Wow, another Wall St. puppet that openly embraces war . . . things should change immediately.
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From bq at soundgardener.co.nz  Wed Nov  5 15:06:50 2008
From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 09:06:50 +1300 (NZDT)
Subject: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart
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Tone doesn't translate in email, which is why I sprinlke so many smileys
around...I should have here cos I was being sardonic to some extent. In an
earlier email tonight I was saying that I think he'll have a positive
impact overall...but like Bongo and a few others, and Noam Chomsky who I
quoted and agree with Oliver on, I don't see a fundamental change in the
power structure coming. Hence not a huge change in the average person's
lot.

He's a successful american politician, so he HAS to be Christian, he HAS
to sell out to the corporates, he HAS to use rhetoric.

I'm totally stoked for you guys, and everyone, and I'm not raining on your
parade, but I'm a reliast too. So sorry, I'll be as cynical as I see fit.

And in terms of the financial storm that's still developing, I don't see
any point in being 'positive' about it, it's gonna cause untold pain in my
opinion and all the denial about it that's gone on for the last several
years achieves nothing.

> Wow, Brendan -- such *positive* thinking!
> Look, I  consider myself fully a realist, but  -- with all due respect,
> honestly -- spare me the cynicism.
> Rhetoric aside, no one is expecting miracles from Obama or anyone else.
> But,
> sorry, I'll continue hoping for the best!
>
> Boy howdy,
>
> KW
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brendan" <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
> <gathering at misera.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 11:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart
>
>
>> The economic dramas worldwide, which I think are only just beginning, if
>> nothing else will provide Obama with a good excuse for not saving the
>> world (oh, sorry, the US) within the first 8 hours of his tenure...and
>> potentially 4 years down the track when he's looking for re-election (if
>> he hasn't been assassinated)...
>>
>>> Not perhaps the most brillant speech, but I think it was more sobering
>>> than
>>> anything. Basically, he was saying, "We're gonna have a hard road to
>>> hoe."
>>> What the next four years will bring is anyone's guess, but let's all
>>> hope
>>> for the best.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> k.w.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Sarah's Putrefying Kunt" <crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk>
>>> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
>>> <gathering at misera.net>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 6:37 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart
>>>
>>>
>>>> Obama's acceptance speech was rather vacuous wasn't it?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --- On Wed, 5/11/08, fluw <fluwdot at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> From: fluw <fluwdot at earthlink.net>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d
>>>>> To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'"
>>>>> <gathering at misera.net>
>>>>> Date: Wednesday, 5 November, 2008, 2:07 PM
>>>>> I am excited about Obama and for what 'he says' he
>>>>> will do, especially here
>>>>> in the US socially - and I look forward to the
>>>>> possibilities of people
>>>>> coming together in the US, but anyone who thinks Obama is
>>>>> going to make
>>>>> drastic change overseas, in the environment, or fiscally is
>>>>> a fool.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The world is America's bitch and she likes to have her
>>>>> ass reamed.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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From karen.weil at sddt.com  Wed Nov  5 15:11:29 2008
From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 12:11:29 -0800
Subject: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart
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Thank you, Bette. You crystalized my thoughts perfectly. 
Now, it is up to Obama to improve our nation. And it ain't gonna be easy. But let's enjoy the ride! ; )

k.w.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Bette Dillinger 
  To: gathering at misera.net 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 11:57 AM
  Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart


  I told you all he was going to win and I got pissing and moaning yesterday......I RAWK! BLAHHHH!!! LOL
   
  Nah, I thought his speech was mildly compelling.  I didn't think it was vacuous.  It addressed the major
  issues that everyone will be experiencing.
   
  Though I am cynical to the core about the whole process, when I saw that America had elected a Black
  man over McSame, and he was standing there with his wife and two children waiting to speak, I have to admit that even my jaundiced eye had a tear in it.  
   
  Bette    

  > Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 08:40:37 +1300
  > From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz
  > To: gathering at misera.net
  > Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart
  > 
  > The economic dramas worldwide, which I think are only just beginning, if
  > nothing else will provide Obama with a good excuse for not saving the
  > world (oh, sorry, the US) within the first 8 hours of his tenure...and
  > potentially 4 years down the track when he's looking for re-election (if
  > he hasn't been assassinated)...
  > 
  > > Not perhaps the most brillant speech, but I think it was more sobering
  > > than
  > > anything. Basically, he was saying, "We're gonna have a hard road to hoe."
  > > What the next four years will bring is anyone's guess, but let's all hope
  > > for the best.
  > >
  > > Cheers,
  > >
  > > k.w.
  > > ----- Original Message -----
  > > From: "Sarah's Putrefying Kunt" <crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk>
  > > To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
  > > <gathering at misera.net>
  > > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 6:37 AM
  > > Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart
  > >
  > >
  > >> Obama's acceptance speech was rather vacuous wasn't it?
  > >>
  > >>
  > >>
  > >> --- On Wed, 5/11/08, fluw <fluwdot at earthlink.net> wrote:
  > >>
  > >>> From: fluw <fluwdot at earthlink.net>
  > >>> Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d
  > >>> To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'"
  > >>> <gathering at misera.net>
  > >>> Date: Wednesday, 5 November, 2008, 2:07 PM
  > >>> I am excited about Obama and for what 'he says' he
  > >>> will do, especially here
  > >>> in the US socially - and I look forward to the
  > >>> possibilities of people
  > >>> coming together in the US, but anyone who thinks Obama is
  > >>> going to make
  > >>> drastic change overseas, in the environment, or fiscally is
  > >>> a fool.
  > >>>
  > >>>
  > >>>
  > >>> The world is America's bitch and she likes to have her
  > >>> ass reamed.
  > >>
  > >>
  > >>
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From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk (ade)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 20:53:00 -0000
Subject: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a Kenyan Wardance!
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> Okay...AWESOME bandname, you heard it here first...DEATHWANK.

Marc?

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Sent: 05 November 2008 19:56
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a Kenyan Wardance!


Forgive me if I snore through the next 40 years of the Cold War...wake me
when the bombs are dropping, I'll need time for a Deathwank.

Okay...AWESOME bandname, you heard it here first...DEATHWANK.

Lead singer, Onan the Barbarian (high-brow joke...):

onanism
"masturbation," 1727, from Onan, son of Judah (Gen. xxxviii.9), who
spilled his seed on the ground rather than impregnate his dead brother's
wife: "And Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and it came to pass,
when he went in unto his brother's wife, that he spilled it on the ground,
lest that he should give seed to his brother." Somehow this was twisted by
prudes into a prohibition of masturbation.

>> ..screw up 'Foreign Ploicy' worse...
>
> On that note...?
>
> ? ..just?after Obama's speech the Russians said they will move missiles
> right up next?to Poland and Lithuania and?promised to use?electronic
> technology to interfere?with soon-to-be-placed american?missile defense
> installations?and radar stations in both those countries.
> ?
>
>
> ... ... ... ... ... ...
>
> [looking at the current?state of things..]
> ?
> 'Save me...
> ? save me?from Tomorrow..
> ??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'??
>
>
>
>
>
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> From: Palin's Political Death Rattle <crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk>
> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
> <gathering at misera.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2008 7:16:34 AM
> Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a Kenyan Wardance!
>
> Well it seems very unlikely that Obama will screw up
> 'Foreign Ploicy' worse than those warmongers Rumslfed, Chainy, Ashcroft
> and their retard puppet stooge Dubya!
>
> --- On Wed, 5/11/08, fluw <fluwdot at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> From: fluw <fluwdot at earthlink.net>
>> Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d
>> To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'"
>> <gathering at misera.net>
>> Date: Wednesday, 5 November, 2008, 2:59 PM
>> I hope you are right, and the healthcare changes should
>> bring benefits to
>> the economy.
>>
>> Obama's words are encouraging and I feel his
>> comprehension, intelligence and
>> class may help in international affairs. But until energy
>> usage - America's
>> demands change - then our lifestyle will usurp any hope of
>> a peaceful world.
>>
>>
>> But before then it will be china's turn to do the
>> fucking. Get out the lube
>> y'all.
>>
>> 2012 can't come soon enough
>>
>>? ?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
>> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
>> Behalf Of Brendan
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 9:43 AM
>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
>> Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d
>>
>> Gotta disagree...
>>
>> I was reading recently that the boom / bust cycle for quite
>> a while in the
>> US has been Democrat for the booms and Republicans for the
>> busts...
>>
>> Any changes in healthcare alone will have a big effect on
>> the economy,
>> according to what I've read there's a massive
>> looming crisis with the
>> increased spend on healthcare - with the baby boomers
>> starting to enter
>> retirement from 2011 on...9some would be trickling through
>> early already).
>>
>> >From what I gather a lot of baby boomers are going to
>> want to sell their
>> houses as they retire and transfer the $ into cash and
>> similar, so there
>> may be a glut off houses on the market, further harming
>> prices...
>>
>> There's no doubt that the Dems now being in such a
>> position of power will
>> have a marked effect on the economy, and I think Obama is
>> going to be a
>> change for the better in terms of the US's
>> international relations.
>>
>>
>> > I am excited about Obama and for what 'he
>> says' he will do, especially
>> > here
>> > in the US socially - and I look forward to the
>> possibilities of people
>> > coming together in the US, but anyone who thinks Obama
>> is going to make
>> > drastic change overseas, in the environment, or
>> fiscally is a fool.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > The world is America's bitch and she likes to have
>> her ass reamed.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Ralph Nader or Cynthia McKinney would be the only
>> candidates able to offer
>> > change that benefits those who suffer at the hands of
>> America!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Everything will be the same 'cept the US
>> basketball courts and jobsites
>> > will
>> > have more inter
>> >
>> > - racial camaraderie.maybe.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >? _____
>> >
>> > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
>> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
>> > On
>> > Behalf Of Matthew Burke
>> > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 12:42 AM
>> > To: gathering
>> > Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Wow, another Wall St. puppet that openly embraces war
>> . . . things should
>> > change immediately.
>> >
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From ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk  Wed Nov  5 15:53:59 2008
From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk (ade)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 20:53:59 -0000
Subject: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d
Message-ID: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC0722A5@mr-pants.the-lab.local>

Yeah, all that sort of stuff - loads of it probably!

-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Bette Dillinger
Sent: 05 November 2008 20:01
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d


I also see people saying "Black people don't have it worse than white people.......look who is in the White House!  The President is Black, so there is no discrimination!".......like Stephen Colbert jokes, whites just "won't see race".


  _____  

Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 11:30:09 -0800
From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d


> the right will simply say... "no excuses now, a black man made it..."
 
BINGO!! ding-ding-ding-ding!  OH! *Las Vegas flashbacks*
 
And not just the right, but all americans, who've felt that til-now-denied guilt over blacks.  
Notice how lotsa articles have been ab out post-racial this, post-racial that, 'is this the end 
of Race,' '...the end of Race politics,'etc. as if "some" are dying to bypass the issue then 
believe it never existed. 
 
  Now, if blacks (individuals and group) don't rise up, people 
really will feel justified in openly calling them "lazy."
 
May the excuses begin...
 
... ... ... ... ... ... 

[looking at the current state of things..]
 

'Save me...
  save me from Tomorrow..
    I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'   
 



  _____  

From: ade <ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2008 11:15:41 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d


I think the right will simply say to the black community "no excuses now, a black man made it to presidency"

-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of fluw
Sent: 05 November 2008 14:07
To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d



I am excited about Obama and for what ?he says? he will do, especially here in the US socially - and I look forward to the possibilities of people coming together in the US, but anyone who thinks Obama is going to make drastic change overseas, in the environment, or fiscally is a fool.

 

The world is America ?s bitch and she likes to have her ass reamed.

 

Ralph Nader or Cynthia McKinney would be the only candidates able to offer change that benefits those who suffer at the hands of America !

 

Everything will be the same ?cept the US basketball courts and jobsites will have more inter 

- racial camaraderie?maybe. 

 

 


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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Matthew Burke
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 12:42 AM
To: gathering
Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d

 

Wow, another Wall St. puppet that openly embraces war . . . things should change immediately.



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From hollytree1961 at hotmail.com  Wed Nov  5 16:02:09 2008
From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com (melinda grant)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 21:02:09 +0000
Subject: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart
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i will have to third  that as well ;)  and if i may add to have obama in the white house is a very good posative start for so many races,minority groups,the disavantagesed and the odd balls to ;D))))) shows that no matter  what if you really try and believe everyone has a chance to achieve the goal and i am happy with that no matter how cheesy it sounds ;P

From: karen.weil at sddt.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 12:11:29 -0800Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart


Thank you, Bette. You crystalized my thoughts perfectly. 
Now, it is up to Obama to improve our nation. And it ain't gonna be easy. But let's enjoy the ride! ; )
k.w.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Bette Dillinger 
To: gathering at misera.net 
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 11:57 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart
I told you all he was going to win and I got pissing and moaning yesterday......I RAWK! BLAHHHH!!! LOL Nah, I thought his speech was mildly compelling.  I didn't think it was vacuous.  It addressed the majorissues that everyone will be experiencing. Though I am cynical to the core about the whole process, when I saw that America had elected a Blackman over McSame, and he was standing there with his wife and two children waiting to speak, I have to admit that even my jaundiced eye had a tear in it.   Bette    > Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 08:40:37 +1300> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart> > The economic dramas worldwide, which I think are only just beginning, if> nothing else will provide Obama with a good excuse for not saving the> world (oh, sorry, the US) within the first 8 hours of his tenure...and> potentially 4 years down the track when he's looking for re-election (if> he hasn't been assassinated)...> > > Not perhaps the most brillant speech, but I think it was more sobering> > than> > anything. Basically, he was saying, "We're gonna have a hard road to hoe."> > What the next four years will bring is anyone's guess, but let's all hope> > for the best.> >> > Cheers,> >> > k.w.> > ----- Original Message -----> > From: "Sarah's Putrefying Kunt" <crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk>> > To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"> > <gathering at misera.net>> > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 6:37 AM> > Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart> >> >> >> Obama's acceptance speech was rather vacuous wasn't it?> >>> >>> >>> >> --- On Wed, 5/11/08, fluw <fluwdot at earthlink.net> wrote:> >>> >>> From: fluw <fluwdot at earthlink.net>> >>> Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d> >>> To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'"> >>> <gathering at misera.net>> >>> Date: Wednesday, 5 November, 2008, 2:07 PM> >>> I am excited about Obama and for what 'he says' he> >>> will do, especially here> >>> in the US socially - and I look forward to the> >>> possibilities of people> >>> coming together in the US, but anyone who thinks Obama is> >>> going to make> >>> drastic change overseas, in the environment, or fiscally is> >>> a fool.> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> The world is America's bitch and she likes to have her> >>> ass reamed.> >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________> >> Gathering mailing list> >> Gathering at misera.net> >> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering> >>> >> > _______________________________________________> > Gathering mailing list> > Gathering at misera.net> > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering> >> > > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering

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From karen.weil at sddt.com  Wed Nov  5 16:03:13 2008
From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 13:03:13 -0800
Subject: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart
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Point taken, Brendan.
Have a good one.

k.w.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brendan" <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
<gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 12:06 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart


> Tone doesn't translate in email, which is why I sprinlke so many smileys
> around...I should have here cos I was being sardonic to some extent. In an
> earlier email tonight I was saying that I think he'll have a positive
> impact overall...but like Bongo and a few others, and Noam Chomsky who I
> quoted and agree with Oliver on, I don't see a fundamental change in the
> power structure coming. Hence not a huge change in the average person's
> lot.
>
> He's a successful american politician, so he HAS to be Christian, he HAS
> to sell out to the corporates, he HAS to use rhetoric.
>
> I'm totally stoked for you guys, and everyone, and I'm not raining on your
> parade, but I'm a reliast too. So sorry, I'll be as cynical as I see fit.
>
> And in terms of the financial storm that's still developing, I don't see
> any point in being 'positive' about it, it's gonna cause untold pain in my
> opinion and all the denial about it that's gone on for the last several
> years achieves nothing.
>
>> Wow, Brendan -- such *positive* thinking!
>> Look, I  consider myself fully a realist, but  -- with all due respect,
>> honestly -- spare me the cynicism.
>> Rhetoric aside, no one is expecting miracles from Obama or anyone else.
>> But,
>> sorry, I'll continue hoping for the best!
>>
>> Boy howdy,
>>
>> KW
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Brendan" <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
>> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
>> <gathering at misera.net>
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 11:40 AM
>> Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart
>>
>>
>>> The economic dramas worldwide, which I think are only just beginning, if
>>> nothing else will provide Obama with a good excuse for not saving the
>>> world (oh, sorry, the US) within the first 8 hours of his tenure...and
>>> potentially 4 years down the track when he's looking for re-election (if
>>> he hasn't been assassinated)...
>>>
>>>> Not perhaps the most brillant speech, but I think it was more sobering
>>>> than
>>>> anything. Basically, he was saying, "We're gonna have a hard road to
>>>> hoe."
>>>> What the next four years will bring is anyone's guess, but let's all
>>>> hope
>>>> for the best.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> k.w.
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Sarah's Putrefying Kunt" <crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk>
>>>> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
>>>> <gathering at misera.net>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 6:37 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Obama's acceptance speech was rather vacuous wasn't it?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --- On Wed, 5/11/08, fluw <fluwdot at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> From: fluw <fluwdot at earthlink.net>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d
>>>>>> To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'"
>>>>>> <gathering at misera.net>
>>>>>> Date: Wednesday, 5 November, 2008, 2:07 PM
>>>>>> I am excited about Obama and for what 'he says' he
>>>>>> will do, especially here
>>>>>> in the US socially - and I look forward to the
>>>>>> possibilities of people
>>>>>> coming together in the US, but anyone who thinks Obama is
>>>>>> going to make
>>>>>> drastic change overseas, in the environment, or fiscally is
>>>>>> a fool.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The world is America's bitch and she likes to have her
>>>>>> ass reamed.
>>>>>
>>>>>
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From karen.weil at sddt.com  Wed Nov  5 16:18:29 2008
From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 13:18:29 -0800
Subject: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d
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That is a very sharp reminder, Gingoblin!

kw

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <gingoblin at easynet.co.uk>
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
<gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 8:47 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d


> The whole thing is like New Labour getting in here in 1997. Politicians 
> should be judged on what they do, not what they say they're gonna do, 
> since being a fucking liar is about the biggest part of the game. Let's 
> see how joyful everyone is in 4 years. My prediction : not very fucking 
> joyful at all!  Ah, happy happy day! Let's sing and dance!
>
> Dave in Edinburgh
>
>
>
>
>
>
> At 08:37 05/11/2008 -0800, you wrote:
>>Do you not realise how worrying a line like this is to an 'outsider'?
>>Enjoy the feelgood factor..he may have said he will do a lot, whether he 
>>actually can, and I refer to the system not the man, is another matter.
>>As Mark Stewart would scream "PASSIFICATION!' ;)
>>Absolution time, I guess...me, the cynic.
>>
>>"
>>
>> > Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 00:55:42 -0600
>> > From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net
>> > To: gathering at misera.net
>> > Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d
>>
>> >
>> > The USA is back, dogs. Big time. Hell yes.
>> >
>> >
>> > -Oliver
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From fluke1 at live.co.uk  Wed Nov  5 17:24:57 2008
From: fluke1 at live.co.uk (fluke fluke)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 22:24:57 +0000
Subject: [kj] Oliver...............
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From saulomar1 at yahoo.com  Wed Nov  5 18:39:20 2008
From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com (sade1)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 15:39:20 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart
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> Rhetoric aside, no one is expecting miracles..

But?yes they are; it's been the problem all along - and he knows it.
And, the code word/magical word?for "miracles" (so as not to be seen 
as too?fundi-'religious')?is, "Transformation."? Notice how loaded beyond 
its own definition that word is when people use it (in an Obama context).


?
... ... ... ... ... ... 

[looking at the current?state of things..]
?
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? save me?from Tomorrow..
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From: Karen Weil <karen.weil at sddt.com>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2008 11:56:53 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart

Wow, Brendan -- such *positive* thinking!
Look, I? consider myself fully a realist, but? -- with all due respect, 
honestly -- spare me the cynicism.
Rhetoric aside, no one is expecting miracles from Obama or anyone else. But, 
sorry, I'll continue hoping for the best!

Boy howdy,

KW

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brendan" <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
<gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 11:40 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart


> The economic dramas worldwide, which I think are only just beginning, if
> nothing else will provide Obama with a good excuse for not saving the
> world (oh, sorry, the US) within the first 8 hours of his tenure...and
> potentially 4 years down the track when he's looking for re-election (if
> he hasn't been assassinated)...
>
>> Not perhaps the most brillant speech, but I think it was more sobering
>> than
>> anything. Basically, he was saying, "We're gonna have a hard road to 
>> hoe."
>> What the next four years will bring is anyone's guess, but let's all hope
>> for the best.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> k.w.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Sarah's Putrefying Kunt" <crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk>
>> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
>> <gathering at misera.net>
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 6:37 AM
>> Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart
>>
>>
>>> Obama's acceptance speech was rather vacuous wasn't it?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- On Wed, 5/11/08, fluw <fluwdot at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> From: fluw <fluwdot at earthlink.net>
>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d
>>>> To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'"
>>>> <gathering at misera.net>
>>>> Date: Wednesday, 5 November, 2008, 2:07 PM
>>>> I am excited about Obama and for what 'he says' he
>>>> will do, especially here
>>>> in the US socially - and I look forward to the
>>>> possibilities of people
>>>> coming together in the US, but anyone who thinks Obama is
>>>> going to make
>>>> drastic change overseas, in the environment, or fiscally is
>>>> a fool.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The world is America's bitch and she likes to have her
>>>> ass reamed.
>>>
>>>
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From saulomar1 at yahoo.com  Wed Nov  5 18:43:27 2008
From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com (sade1)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 15:43:27 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart
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PLUS! Plus plus plus, 
all the people inside the TV seem to not factor in that Obama's second 
mom had just died right out from under him and at what was?a heavy, 
super-intense time for him, too.? 
It's the 1st thing?I thought of when I saw how beat-up?he looked.
?
... ... ... ... ... ... 

[looking at the current?state of things..]
?
'Save me...
? save me?from Tomorrow..
??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? 





________________________________
From: Bette Dillinger <bettedillinger at live.com>
To: gathering at misera.net
Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2008 11:57:38 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart

I told you all he was going to win and I got pissing and moaning yesterday......I RAWK! BLAHHHH!!! LOL
?
Nah, I thought his speech was mildly compelling.? I didn't think it was vacuous.? It addressed the major
issues that everyone will be experiencing.
?
Though I am cynical to the core about the whole process, when I saw that America had elected a Black
man over McSame, and he was standing there with his wife and two children waiting to speak, I have to admit that even my jaundiced eye had a tear in it.??
?
Bette??? 

> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 08:40:37 +1300
> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz
> To: gathering at misera.net
> Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart
> 
> The economic dramas worldwide, which I think are only just beginning, if
> nothing else will provide Obama with a good excuse for not saving the
> world (oh, sorry, the US) within the first 8 hours of his tenure...and
> potentially 4 years down the track when he's looking for re-election (if
> he hasn't been assassinated)...
> 
> > Not perhaps the most brillant speech, but I think it was more sobering
> > than
> > anything. Basically, he was saying, "We're gonna have a hard road to hoe."
> > What the next four years will bring is anyone's guess, but let's all hope
> > for the best.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > k.w.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Sarah's Putrefying Kunt" <crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk>
> > To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
> > <gathering at misera.net>
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 6:37 AM
> > Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart
> >
> >
> >> Obama's acceptance speech was rather vacuous wasn't it?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --- On Wed, 5/11/08, fluw <fluwdot at earthlink.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>> From: fluw <fluwdot at earthlink.net>
> >>> Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d
> >>> To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'"
> >>> <gathering at misera.net>
> >>> Date: Wednesday, 5 November, 2008, 2:07 PM
> >>> I am excited about Obama and for what 'he says' he
> >>> will do, especially here
> >>> in the US socially - and I look forward to the
> >>> possibilities of people
> >>> coming together in the US, but anyone who thinks Obama is
> >>> going to make
> >>> drastic change overseas, in the environment, or fiscally is
> >>> a fool.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> The world is America's bitch and she likes to have her
> >>> ass reamed.
> >>
> >>
> >>
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From vassifer at earthlink.net  Wed Nov  5 19:00:38 2008
From: vassifer at earthlink.net (Alexander Smith)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 19:00:38 -0500
Subject: [kj] Plasticheadbutted
In-Reply-To: <BAY138-W221F0048C62B25F8A5D239DB1F0@phx.gbl>
References: <635090.8153.qm@web23203.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
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Chris --- lemme know when yr back in town. Beers will be consumed.

Alex in NYC


On Nov 5, 2008, at 10:06 AM, Christof hamille wrote:

> I detest them.  I asked a simple question as to whether the t-shirts  
> that have the Duende jester had dates on the back.  The picture is  
> vague.
>
> Have they responded?
>
> No way
>
> Nor did they respond when I sent them $100+ for every color of  
> Extremities only to have them shown up banged up and scratched up.
>
> I plan on ordering from Amazon.co.uk.
>
> Buck up Alex
>
> I'll be back in NYC to cheer you up over the holidaze.
>
> hahahahahahahahahaha
>
> Chris
>
> > From: vassifer at earthlink.net
> > To: gathering at misera.net
> > Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 19:54:56 -0500
> > Subject: [kj] Plasticheadbutted
> >
> >
> > So, a little while after I crossed the perilous rubicon of 41, I
> > decided to splurge and pick up both the DUENDES disc ORIGINAL
> > UNPERVERTED PANTOMIME CD/DVD via Plastichead. Sure, a bit more
> > expensive than I'd prefer, but I work hard for my fucking money, and
> > it's been a shit year and I'll take my fleeting, few remaining
> > pleasures where I can find them. Few things bring me as much joy as
> > Killing Joke, so I feel no guilt. I placed my online order with
> > Plastichead and eagerly awaited their arrival.
> >
> > Today, a bulky package sat waiting for me in my mailbox. When I
> > brought it upstairs, I hungrily ripped it open to find a lovingly
> > packaged pair of discs containing THE ORIGINAL UNPERVERTED PANTOMIME
> > and.....
> >
> >
> > .......
> >
> >
> >
> > ..........
> >
> >
> > ...............
> >
> >
> > THE COURTAULD TALKS!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ::::crickets:::
> >
> >
> > Fuck Plastichead.
> >
> >
> > Alex in NYC
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From karen.weil at sddt.com  Wed Nov  5 21:16:21 2008
From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 18:16:21 -0800
Subject: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart
References: <350673.55056.qm@web23208.mail.ird.yahoo.com><4E3FE8FC55EA48F4B468F0172AA6E63E@edweil><28092.203.185.215.144.1225914037.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz><58CD57ABA85345EFBFF5BF4FD6EDAA86@edweil>
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OK, whatever. 
You know? Let's be glad the whole f-ing election season is OVER!

k.w.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: sade1 
  To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 3:39 PM
  Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart


  > Rhetoric aside, no one is expecting miracles..

  But yes they are; it's been the problem all along - and he knows it.
  And, the code word/magical word for "miracles" (so as not to be seen 
  as too fundi-'religious') is, "Transformation."  Notice how loaded beyond 
  its own definition that word is when people use it (in an Obama context).


   
  ... ... ... ... ... ... 

  [looking at the current state of things..]

  'Save me...
    save me from Tomorrow..
      I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'   






------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  From: Karen Weil <karen.weil at sddt.com>
  To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
  Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2008 11:56:53 AM
  Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart

  Wow, Brendan -- such *positive* thinking!
  Look, I  consider myself fully a realist, but  -- with all due respect, 
  honestly -- spare me the cynicism.
  Rhetoric aside, no one is expecting miracles from Obama or anyone else. But, 
  sorry, I'll continue hoping for the best!

  Boy howdy,

  KW

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Brendan" <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
  To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
  <gathering at misera.net>
  Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 11:40 AM
  Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart


  > The economic dramas worldwide, which I think are only just beginning, if
  > nothing else will provide Obama with a good excuse for not saving the
  > world (oh, sorry, the US) within the first 8 hours of his tenure...and
  > potentially 4 years down the track when he's looking for re-election (if
  > he hasn't been assassinated)...
  >
  >> Not perhaps the most brillant speech, but I think it was more sobering
  >> than
  >> anything. Basically, he was saying, "We're gonna have a hard road to 
  >> hoe."
  >> What the next four years will bring is anyone's guess, but let's all hope
  >> for the best.
  >>
  >> Cheers,
  >>
  >> k.w.
  >> ----- Original Message -----
  >> From: "Sarah's Putrefying Kunt" <crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk>
  >> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
  >> <gathering at misera.net>
  >> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 6:37 AM
  >> Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart
  >>
  >>
  >>> Obama's acceptance speech was rather vacuous wasn't it?
  >>>
  >>>
  >>>
  >>> --- On Wed, 5/11/08, fluw <fluwdot at earthlink.net> wrote:
  >>>
  >>>> From: fluw <fluwdot at earthlink.net>
  >>>> Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d
  >>>> To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'"
  >>>> <gathering at misera.net>
  >>>> Date: Wednesday, 5 November, 2008, 2:07 PM
  >>>> I am excited about Obama and for what 'he says' he
  >>>> will do, especially here
  >>>> in the US socially - and I look forward to the
  >>>> possibilities of people
  >>>> coming together in the US, but anyone who thinks Obama is
  >>>> going to make
  >>>> drastic change overseas, in the environment, or fiscally is
  >>>> a fool.
  >>>>
  >>>>
  >>>>
  >>>> The world is America's bitch and she likes to have her
  >>>> ass reamed.
  >>>
  >>>
  >>>
  >>> _______________________________________________
  >>> Gathering mailing list
  >>> Gathering at misera.net
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From karen.weil at sddt.com  Wed Nov  5 21:17:13 2008
From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 18:17:13 -0800
Subject: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart
References: <350673.55056.qm@web23208.mail.ird.yahoo.com><4E3FE8FC55EA48F4B468F0172AA6E63E@edweil><28092.203.185.215.144.1225914037.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz><BLU148-W18B2F48601C3E488B7A4FBBB1F0@phx.gbl>
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That race aged everyone!

k.w.
The Blue State of California
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: sade1 
  To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 3:43 PM
  Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart


  PLUS! Plus plus plus, 
  all the people inside the TV seem to not factor in that Obama's second 
  mom had just died right out from under him and at what was a heavy, 
  super-intense time for him, too.  
  It's the 1st thing I thought of when I saw how beat-up he looked.
   
  ... ... ... ... ... ... 

  [looking at the current state of things..]

  'Save me...
    save me from Tomorrow..
      I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'   






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  From: Bette Dillinger <bettedillinger at live.com>
  To: gathering at misera.net
  Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2008 11:57:38 AM
  Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart

  I told you all he was going to win and I got pissing and moaning yesterday......I RAWK! BLAHHHH!!! LOL
   
  Nah, I thought his speech was mildly compelling.  I didn't think it was vacuous.  It addressed the major
  issues that everyone will be experiencing.
   
  Though I am cynical to the core about the whole process, when I saw that America had elected a Black
  man over McSame, and he was standing there with his wife and two children waiting to speak, I have to admit that even my jaundiced eye had a tear in it.  
   
  Bette    

  > Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 08:40:37 +1300
  > From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz
  > To: gathering at misera.net
  > Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart
  > 
  > The economic dramas worldwide, which I think are only just beginning, if
  > nothing else will provide Obama with a good excuse for not saving the
  > world (oh, sorry, the US) within the first 8 hours of his tenure...and
  > potentially 4 years down the track when he's looking for re-election (if
  > he hasn't been assassinated)...
  > 
  > > Not perhaps the most brillant speech, but I think it was more sobering
  > > than
  > > anything. Basically, he was saying, "We're gonna have a hard road to hoe."
  > > What the next four years will bring is anyone's guess, but let's all hope
  > > for the best.
  > >
  > > Cheers,
  > >
  > > k.w.
  > > ----- Original Message -----
  > > From: "Sarah's Putrefying Kunt" <crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk>
  > > To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
  > > <gathering at misera.net>
  > > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 6:37 AM
  > > Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart
  > >
  > >
  > >> Obama's acceptance speech was rather vacuous wasn't it?
  > >>
  > >>
  > >>
  > >> --- On Wed, 5/11/08, fluw <fluwdot at earthlink.net> wrote:
  > >>
  > >>> From: fluw <fluwdot at earthlink.net>
  > >>> Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d
  > >>> To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'"
  > >>> <gathering at misera.net>
  > >>> Date: Wednesday, 5 November, 2008, 2:07 PM
  > >>> I am excited about Obama and for what 'he says' he
  > >>> will do, especially here
  > >>> in the US socially - and I look forward to the
  > >>> possibilities of people
  > >>> coming together in the US, but anyone who thinks Obama is
  > >>> going to make
  > >>> drastic change overseas, in the environment, or fiscally is
  > >>> a fool.
  > >>>
  > >>>
  > >>>
  > >>> The world is America's bitch and she likes to have her
  > >>> ass reamed.
  > >>
  > >>
  > >>
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From hollytree1961 at hotmail.com  Wed Nov  5 21:19:03 2008
From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com (melinda grant)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 02:19:03 +0000
Subject: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart
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yeah karen it was a great victory but we  must concentrate on something else,there are other things going on as well like--when is gems of power coming out lol:D))) and my last point i wonder if any of k.j were rooting for obama ok thats my last word on that ;)

From: karen.weil at sddt.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 18:16:21 -0800Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart


OK, whatever. 
You know? Let's be glad the whole f-ing election season is OVER!
k.w.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: sade1 
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) 
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 3:39 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart



> Rhetoric aside, no one is expecting miracles..
 
But yes they are; it's been the problem all along - and he knows it.
And, the code word/magical word for "miracles" (so as not to be seen 
as too fundi-'religious') is, "Transformation."  Notice how loaded beyond 
its own definition that word is when people use it (in an Obama context).
 
 
... ... ... ... ... ... 
[looking at the current state of things..]
 
'Save me...
  save me from Tomorrow..
    I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'   
 




From: Karen Weil <karen.weil at sddt.com>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2008 11:56:53 AMSubject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apartWow, Brendan -- such *positive* thinking!Look, I  consider myself fully a realist, but  -- with all due respect, honestly -- spare me the cynicism.Rhetoric aside, no one is expecting miracles from Obama or anyone else. But, sorry, I'll continue hoping for the best!Boy howdy,KW----- Original Message ----- From: "Brendan" <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 11:40 AMSubject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart> The economic dramas worldwide, which I think are only just beginning, if> nothing else will provide Obama with a good excuse for not saving the> world (oh, sorry, the US) within the first 8 hours of his tenure...and> potentially 4 years down the track when he's looking for re-election (if> he hasn't been assassinated)...>>> Not perhaps the most brillant speech, but I think it was more sobering>> than>> anything. Basically, he was saying, "We're gonna have a hard road to >> hoe.">> What the next four years will bring is anyone's guess, but let's all hope>> for the best.>>>> Cheers,>>>> k.w.>> ----- Original Message ----->> From: "Sarah's Putrefying Kunt" <crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk>>> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)">> <gathering at misera.net>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 6:37 AM>> Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart>>>>>>> Obama's acceptance speech was rather vacuous wasn't it?>>>>>>>>>>>> --- On Wed, 5/11/08, fluw <fluwdot at earthlink.net> wrote:>>>>>>> From: fluw <fluwdot at earthlink.net>>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d>>>> To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'">>>> <gathering at misera.net>>>>> Date: Wednesday, 5 November, 2008, 2:07 PM>>>> I am excited about Obama and for what 'he says' he>>>> will do, especially here>>>> in the US socially - and I look forward to the>>>> possibilities of people>>>> coming together in the US, but anyone who thinks Obama is>>>> going to make>>>> drastic change overseas, in the environment, or fiscally is>>>> a fool.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The world is America's bitch and she likes to have her>>>> ass reamed.>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________>>> Gathering mailing list>>> Gathering at misera.net>>> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering>>>>>>> _______________________________________________>> Gathering mailing list>> Gathering at misera.net>> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering>>>>> _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering> _______________________________________________Gathering mailing listGathering at misera.nethttp://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering



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From hollytree1961 at hotmail.com  Wed Nov  5 21:21:48 2008
From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com (melinda grant)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 02:21:48 +0000
Subject: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart
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....except to say me and jenean were born on the same day as obama 4th august ;) and many others i dare say ;P

From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 02:19:03 +0000Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart

yeah karen it was a great victory but we  must concentrate on something else,there are other things going on as well like--when is gems of power coming out lol:D))) and my last point i wonder if any of k.j were rooting for obama ok thats my last word on that ;)

From: karen.weil at sddt.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 18:16:21 -0800Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart


OK, whatever. 
You know? Let's be glad the whole f-ing election season is OVER!
k.w.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: sade1 
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) 
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 3:39 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart



> Rhetoric aside, no one is expecting miracles..
 
But yes they are; it's been the problem all along - and he knows it.
And, the code word/magical word for "miracles" (so as not to be seen 
as too fundi-'religious') is, "Transformation."  Notice how loaded beyond 
its own definition that word is when people use it (in an Obama context).
 
 
... ... ... ... ... ... 
[looking at the current state of things..]
 
'Save me...
  save me from Tomorrow..
    I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'   
 




From: Karen Weil <karen.weil at sddt.com>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2008 11:56:53 AMSubject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apartWow, Brendan -- such *positive* thinking!Look, I  consider myself fully a realist, but  -- with all due respect, honestly -- spare me the cynicism.Rhetoric aside, no one is expecting miracles from Obama or anyone else. But, sorry, I'll continue hoping for the best!Boy howdy,KW----- Original Message ----- From: "Brendan" <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 11:40 AMSubject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart> The economic dramas worldwide, which I think are only just beginning, if> nothing else will provide Obama with a good excuse for not saving the> world (oh, sorry, the US) within the first 8 hours of his tenure...and> potentially 4 years down the track when he's looking for re-election (if> he hasn't been assassinated)...>>> Not perhaps the most brillant speech, but I think it was more sobering>> than>> anything. Basically, he was saying, "We're gonna have a hard road to >> hoe.">> What the next four years will bring is anyone's guess, but let's all hope>> for the best.>>>> Cheers,>>>> k.w.>> ----- Original Message ----->> From: "Sarah's Putrefying Kunt" <crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk>>> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)">> <gathering at misera.net>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 6:37 AM>> Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart>>>>>>> Obama's acceptance speech was rather vacuous wasn't it?>>>>>>>>>>>> --- On Wed, 5/11/08, fluw <fluwdot at earthlink.net> wrote:>>>>>>> From: fluw <fluwdot at earthlink.net>>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d>>>> To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'">>>> <gathering at misera.net>>>>> Date: Wednesday, 5 November, 2008, 2:07 PM>>>> I am excited about Obama and for what 'he says' he>>>> will do, especially here>>>> in the US socially - and I look forward to the>>>> possibilities of people>>>> coming together in the US, but anyone who thinks Obama is>>>> going to make>>>> drastic change overseas, in the environment, or fiscally is>>>> a fool.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The world is America's bitch and she likes to have her>>>> ass reamed.>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________>>> Gathering mailing list>>> Gathering at misera.net>>> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering>>>>>>> _______________________________________________>> Gathering mailing list>> Gathering at misera.net>> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering>>>>> _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering> _______________________________________________Gathering mailing listGathering at misera.nethttp://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering


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From saulomar1 at yahoo.com  Wed Nov  5 22:18:59 2008
From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com (sade1)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 19:18:59 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart
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> You know? Let's be glad 
?
Iam. 

Was there a?smiley-face missing in your reply? C'mon, he won! 


?
... ... ... ... ... ... 

[looking at the current?state of things..]
?
'Save me...
? save me?from Tomorrow..
??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? 





________________________________
From: Karen Weil <karen.weil at sddt.com>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2008 6:16:21 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart


OK, whatever. 
You know? Let's be glad the whole f-ing election season is OVER!

k.w.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: sade1 
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) 
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 3:39 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart

> Rhetoric aside, no one is expecting miracles..

But?yes they are; it's been the problem all along - and he knows it.
And, the code word/magical word?for "miracles" (so as not to be seen 
as too?fundi-'religious')?is, "Transformation."? Notice how loaded beyond 
its own definition that word is when people use it (in an Obama context).


?
... ... ... ... ... ... 

[looking at the current?state of things..]
?
'Save me...
? save me?from Tomorrow..
??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? 





________________________________
From: Karen Weil <karen.weil at sddt.com>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2008 11:56:53 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart

Wow, Brendan -- such *positive* thinking!
Look, I? consider myself fully a realist, but? -- with all due respect, 
honestly -- spare me the cynicism.
Rhetoric aside, no one is expecting miracles from Obama or anyone else. But, 
sorry, I'll continue hoping for the best!

Boy howdy,

KW

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brendan" <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
<gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 11:40 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart


> The economic dramas worldwide, which I think are only just beginning, if
> nothing else will provide Obama with a good excuse for not saving the
> world (oh, sorry, the US) within the first 8 hours of his tenure...and
> potentially 4 years down the track when he's looking for re-election (if
> he hasn't been assassinated)...
>
>> Not perhaps the most brillant speech, but I think it was more sobering
>> than
>> anything. Basically, he was saying, "We're gonna have a hard road to 
>> hoe."
>> What the next four years will bring is anyone's guess, but let's all hope
>> for the best.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> k.w.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Sarah's Putrefying Kunt" <crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk>
>> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
>> <gathering at misera.net>
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 6:37 AM
>> Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart
>>
>>
>>> Obama's acceptance speech was rather vacuous wasn't it?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- On Wed, 5/11/08, fluw <fluwdot at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> From: fluw <fluwdot at earthlink.net>
>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d
>>>> To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'"
>>>> <gathering at misera.net>
>>>> Date: Wednesday, 5 November, 2008, 2:07 PM
>>>> I am excited about Obama and for what 'he says' he
>>>> will do, especially here
>>>> in the US socially - and I look forward to the
>>>> possibilities of people
>>>> coming together in the US, but anyone who thinks Obama is
>>>> going to make
>>>> drastic change overseas, in the environment, or fiscally is
>>>> a fool.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The world is America's bitch and she likes to have her
>>>> ass reamed.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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From BMeissner at encorehollywood.com  Wed Nov  5 23:35:52 2008
From: BMeissner at encorehollywood.com (Bill Meissner)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 20:35:52 -0800
Subject: [kj] OT - Last Shadow Puppets
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         Had a great day on Monday....I was listening to Steve Jones radio show (Jonesy's Jukebox) while having my morning/afternoon coffee at a locale caf? here in Hollywood. Jonesy had Miles Kane and Alex Turner on the show because they were in town to play the last show as The Last Shadow Puppets at the Mayan Theater in downtown L.A. At the end of the show I ended up winning tickets to the show! I promptly called work and told them that I was taking half the day off to go to the show. What an incredible show!!!! I walked out of the show really feeling like I saw something unique and special. They had a full orchestra backing them up and everything. The sound was amazing - Alex and Miles are truly talented musicians. Here in America we don't get this type of thing - if American musicians their age tried to do this sort of thing - it probably would come off as cheesy and nostalgic. This was very British - which is wonderful - and just totally impressed me - no rock star ego bullshit. I can't believe those guys are like 21-22 years old - Alex Turner was born to play music - I hope he's around for a long time. Anyone else out there get to see them? I'm curious what you people in England think of this project....

     Anyway - Just wanted to share my experience with you all - I was completely blown away and again felt like I saw something special - especially it being their last show. Miles goes back to The Rascals and Alex of course goes back to Arctic Monkeys who have been recording with Josh Homme from Queens of the Stoneage (can't wait to hear what comes from that collaboration....)

 

 

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From marsboy1 at msn.com  Thu Nov  6 01:40:30 2008
From: marsboy1 at msn.com (Matthew Burke)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 01:40:30 -0500
Subject: [kj] OT - Bad Brains in NYC tonight
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Me.  Anybody else?
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From blazingstar418 at yahoo.com  Thu Nov  6 02:17:17 2008
From: blazingstar418 at yahoo.com (Blazingstar418)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 23:17:17 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [kj] OT - Bad Brains in NYC tonight
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Damn!(envious)
Best of luck!
I hope H.R. shows up!

A L P


--- On Wed, 11/5/08, Matthew Burke <marsboy1 at msn.com> wrote:

> From: Matthew Burke <marsboy1 at msn.com>
> Subject: [kj] OT - Bad Brains in NYC tonight
> To: "gathering" <gathering at misera.net>
> Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 10:40 PM
> Me.  Anybody
> else?_______________________________________________
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From bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net  Thu Nov  6 03:02:35 2008
From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net (B. Oliver Sheppard)
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 02:02:35 -0600
Subject: [kj] OT: Spontaneous eruption of mas singing, etc.,
	in NYC after midnight
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrj_bc2Xy9s


Above, apontaneous celebration in NYC at 1:45 AM captured on home video 
at Union Square. Haven't quite seen anything like it, the spontaneous 
bursting into song, etc., in my lifetime. It doesn't have the ugly feel 
of the Bush/Cheney/9-11 nationalism, but a strange new sort of resurgent 
American nationalism I have never seen.

I'm hopeful -- I feel like I can travel to other countries now without 
having to pretend I'm Canadian! -- but am trying to soberly have no 
illusions about what's to come.

-Oliver

From bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net  Thu Nov  6 03:05:40 2008
From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net (B. Oliver Sheppard)
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 02:05:40 -0600
Subject: [kj] Oliver...............
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The specter of President Palin forced the hand.

It was just revealed she did not know Africa was even a continent. She 
thought it was a country. And John "My Fellow Prisoners" McCain is so 
old she could've become Pres. and had her hand on the nuke arsenal.


http://wonkette.com/404207/sarah-palin-thought-africa-was-a-country-not-a-continent      
<-- video there


Sorry, but no. Denied. Go back to your arctic circle, ma'am, the US 
state that has a lower population than many US cities.

-Oliver


fluke fluke wrote:
>  
>      Out of curiosity, why did you vote for Obama?


From bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net  Thu Nov  6 03:24:33 2008
From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net (B. Oliver Sheppard)
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 02:24:33 -0600
Subject: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart
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Regarding the subject line "OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart" --


It's better than if today the subject line said "MCCAIN HAS WON a nation 
falling apart," is all I'm saying.

-Oliver

From fatpotanga at gmail.com  Thu Nov  6 04:20:29 2008
From: fatpotanga at gmail.com (fatpotanga)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 09:20:29 +0000
Subject: [kj] OT - Last Shadow Puppets
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I couldn't agree more with what you wrote.
The depth & maturity of their writing is incredible.
I've had the Puppets album for a while & I think it's fabulous - all  
very spaghetti western but they pull it off.
I saw on TV some of the show you were lucky enough to see & it sounded  
fantastic.
Something special indeed & it's nice to see them 'kill it off' instead  
of milk it.

I loved the Artics when they first came out & again can only echo what  
you said about Alex Turner.
When you think he was about 18 when he wrote that it's quite incredible.

Again, I can only echo your sentiments.
Maybe not everyone's tastes here but good music is good music & talent  
is talent.
So there is so there & fatpotanga is fatpotanga

Didn't know the Arctics have been recording with Josh Homme - that  
should be interesting


On 6 Nov 2008, at 04:35, Bill Meissner wrote:

>          Had a great day on Monday?.I was listening to Steve Jones  
> radio show (Jonesy?s Jukebox) while having my morning/afternoon  
> coffee at a locale caf? here in Hollywood. Jonesy had Miles Kane and  
> Alex Turner on the show because they were in town to play the last  
> show as The Last Shadow Puppets at the Mayan Theater in downtown  
> L.A. At the end of the show I ended up winning tickets to the show!  
> I promptly called work and told them that I was taking half the day  
> off to go to the show. What an incredible show!!!! I walked out of  
> the show really feeling like I saw something unique and special.  
> They had a full orchestra backing them up and everything. The sound  
> was amazing ? Alex and Miles are truly talented musicians. Here in  
> America we don?t get this type of thing ? if American musicians  
> their age tried to do this sort of thing ? it probably would come  
> off as cheesy and nostalgic. This was very British ? which is  
> wonderful ? and just totally impressed me ? no rock star ego  
> bullshit. I can?t believe those guys are like 21-22 years old ? Alex  
> Turner was born to play music ? I hope he?s around for a long time.  
> Anyone else out there get to see them? I?m curious what you people  
> in England think of this project?.
>      Anyway ? Just wanted to share my experience with you all ? I  
> was completely blown away and again felt like I saw something  
> special ? especially it being their last show. Miles goes back to  
> The Rascals and Alex of course goes back to Arctic Monkeys who have  
> been recording with Josh Homme from Queens of the Stoneage (can?t  
> wait to hear what comes from that collaboration?.)
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From Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.uk  Thu Nov  6 05:32:09 2008
From: Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.uk (Janean Lancaster)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 10:32:09 -0000
Subject: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart
Message-ID: <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232D6B4@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal>

Oh, I didn't know that.

 

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
On Behalf Of melinda grant
Sent: 06 November 2008 02:22
To: thegathering mailing list
Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart

 

....except to say me and jenean were born on the same day as obama 4th
august ;) and many others i dare say ;P

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From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 02:19:03 +0000
Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart

yeah karen it was a great victory but we  must concentrate on something
else,there are other things going on as well like--when is gems of power
coming out lol:D))) and my last point i wonder if any of k.j were
rooting for obama ok thats my last word on that ;)

________________________________

From: karen.weil at sddt.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 18:16:21 -0800
Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart

OK, whatever. 

You know? Let's be glad the whole f-ing election season is OVER!

k.w.

	----- Original Message ----- 

	From: sade1 <mailto:saulomar1 at yahoo.com>  

	To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
<mailto:gathering at misera.net>  

	Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 3:39 PM

	Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart

	 

	> Rhetoric aside, no one is expecting miracles..

	 

	But yes they are; it's been the problem all along - and he knows
it.
<http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_election
s/article5051118.ece> 

	And, the code word/magical word for "miracles" (so as not to be
seen 

	as too fundi-'religious') is, "Transformation."  Notice how
loaded beyond 

	its own definition that word is when people use it (in an Obama
context).

	 

	
	 

	... ... ... ... ... ... 

	
	[looking at the current state of things..]

	 

	'Save me...

	  save me from Tomorrow..

	    I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'   

	 

	 

	 

	
________________________________


	From: Karen Weil <karen.weil at sddt.com>
	To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
<gathering at misera.net>
	Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2008 11:56:53 AM
	Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart
	
	Wow, Brendan -- such *positive* thinking!
	Look, I  consider myself fully a realist, but  -- with all due
respect, 
	honestly -- spare me the cynicism.
	Rhetoric aside, no one is expecting miracles from Obama or
anyone else. But, 
	sorry, I'll continue hoping for the best!
	
	Boy howdy,
	
	KW
	
	----- Original Message ----- 
	From: "Brendan" <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
	To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
	<gathering at misera.net>
	Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 11:40 AM
	Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart
	
	
	> The economic dramas worldwide, which I think are only just
beginning, if
	> nothing else will provide Obama with a good excuse for not
saving the
	> world (oh, sorry, the US) within the first 8 hours of his
tenure...and
	> potentially 4 years down the track when he's looking for
re-election (if
	> he hasn't been assassinated)...
	>
	>> Not perhaps the most brillant speech, but I think it was more
sobering
	>> than
	>> anything. Basically, he was saying, "We're gonna have a hard
road to 
	>> hoe."
	>> What the next four years will bring is anyone's guess, but
let's all hope
	>> for the best.
	>>
	>> Cheers,
	>>
	>> k.w.
	>> ----- Original Message -----
	>> From: "Sarah's Putrefying Kunt" <crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk>
	>> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
	>> <gathering at misera.net>
	>> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 6:37 AM
	>> Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart
	>>
	>>
	>>> Obama's acceptance speech was rather vacuous wasn't it?
	>>>
	>>>
	>>>
	>>> --- On Wed, 5/11/08, fluw <fluwdot at earthlink.net> wrote:
	>>>
	>>>> From: fluw <fluwdot at earthlink.net>
	>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d
	>>>> To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'"
	>>>> <gathering at misera.net>
	>>>> Date: Wednesday, 5 November, 2008, 2:07 PM
	>>>> I am excited about Obama and for what 'he says' he
	>>>> will do, especially here
	>>>> in the US socially - and I look forward to the
	>>>> possibilities of people
	>>>> coming together in the US, but anyone who thinks Obama is
	>>>> going to make
	>>>> drastic change overseas, in the environment, or fiscally is
	>>>> a fool.
	>>>>
	>>>>
	>>>>
	>>>> The world is America's bitch and she likes to have her
	>>>> ass reamed.
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From fluke1 at live.co.uk  Thu Nov  6 06:00:01 2008
From: fluke1 at live.co.uk (fluke fluke)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 11:00:01 +0000
Subject: [kj] Oliver...............
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What I found a bit discerning about these elections was the lack of discussion about policies amongst the electorate .
Maybe they were discussed in the U.S., but on World forums , Americans seems to be discussing trivial things , A Lady even said that she was going to vote for Obama because he had a nice smile WFT !!!! Did she think that if Obama smiles at the Trillion Dollar deficit....then it will reduce itself to a Billion Dollar deficit ?
   Polices should be paramamount in Elections , but then again , can you trust what the Politicians say ? Obama said that he would spend more on public services  and the other bloke (Palins mate) said that he would cut taxes, both of these options are impracticable , with two wars going on, the recession just starting, the Trillion Dollar deficit , the only option is to raise taxes and to cut spending, neither of the Parties would have admitted this because it would have been a vote loser .
  Obama faces a very difficult task, The U.S's position as the only World Superpower is at stake , China and Russia could surpass the U.S. if Obama doesnt get the U.S back on track .
  The Billion Dollar deficit , to whom is the Billion Dollars owed to ? Arent the banks going broke ? If the banks called in the debts...wouldn't the Government be insolvent ?
 
> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 02:05:40 -0600> From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re: [kj] Oliver...............> > The specter of President Palin forced the hand.> > It was just revealed she did not know Africa was even a continent. She > thought it was a country. And John "My Fellow Prisoners" McCain is so > old she could've become Pres. and had her hand on the nuke arsenal.> > > http://wonkette.com/404207/sarah-palin-thought-africa-was-a-country-not-a-continent > <-- video there> > > Sorry, but no. Denied. Go back to your arctic circle, ma'am, the US > state that has a lower population than many US cities.> > -Oliver> > > fluke fluke wrote:> > > > Out of curiosity, why did you vote for Obama?> > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
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From 65snoopy at gmail.com  Thu Nov  6 06:37:20 2008
From: 65snoopy at gmail.com (Neil Perry)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 12:37:20 +0100
Subject: [kj] OT - Last Shadow Puppets
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I bought that CD the other day - very impressed also. Good to
hear something totally unique - although all the reviews said its a homage
to Scott Walker. (I've never heard Scott Walker, so to me it was unique.)
Sort of 60s music for the 21st century, or something like that. Would like
to see them do it live. I was initially sceptical as I am no fan of Arctic
Monkeys, although he (Turner) has always given interesting interviews.
And yes, can't believe he is still only 22 or whatever. Bastard.
N

2008/11/6 Bill Meissner <BMeissner at encorehollywood.com>

>           Had a great day on Monday?.I was listening to Steve Jones radio
> show (Jonesy's Jukebox) while having my morning/afternoon coffee at a locale
> caf? here in Hollywood. Jonesy had Miles Kane and Alex Turner on the show
> because they were in town to play the last show as The Last Shadow Puppets
> at the Mayan Theater in downtown L.A. At the end of the show I ended up
> winning tickets to the show! I promptly called work and told them that I was
> taking half the day off to go to the show. What an incredible show!!!! I
> walked out of the show really feeling like I saw something unique and
> special. They had a full orchestra backing them up and everything. The sound
> was amazing ? Alex and Miles are truly talented musicians. Here in America
> we don't get this type of thing ? if American musicians their age tried to
> do this sort of thing ? it probably would come off as cheesy and nostalgic.
> This was very British ? which is wonderful ? and just totally impressed me ?
> no rock star ego bullshit. I can't believe those guys are like 21-22 years
> old ? Alex Turner was born to play music ? I hope he's around for a long
> time. Anyone else out there get to see them? I'm curious what you people in
> England think of this project?.
>
>      Anyway ? Just wanted to share my experience with you all ? I was
> completely blown away and again felt like I saw something special ?
> especially it being their last show. Miles goes back to The Rascals and Alex
> of course goes back to Arctic Monkeys who have been recording with Josh
> Homme from Queens of the Stoneage (can't wait to hear what comes from that
> collaboration?.)
>
>
>
>
>
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From jelbod at hotmail.co.uk  Thu Nov  6 06:40:35 2008
From: jelbod at hotmail.co.uk (jerry bodkin)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 11:40:35 +0000
Subject: [kj] Oliver...............
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 I'm so bored with the U. S. A!
 
 Jel....erm....Killing Joke fan!



From: fluke1 at live.co.ukTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 11:00:01 +0000Subject: Re: [kj] Oliver...............

What I found a bit discerning about these elections was the lack of discussion about policies amongst the electorate .Maybe they were discussed in the U.S., but on World forums , Americans seems to be discussing trivial things , A Lady even said that she was going to vote for Obama because he had a nice smile WFT !!!! Did she think that if Obama smiles at the Trillion Dollar deficit....then it will reduce itself to a Billion Dollar deficit ?   Polices should be paramamount in Elections , but then again , can you trust what the Politicians say ? Obama said that he would spend more on public services  and the other bloke (Palins mate) said that he would cut taxes, both of these options are impracticable , with two wars going on, the recession just starting, the Trillion Dollar deficit , the only option is to raise taxes and to cut spending, neither of the Parties would have admitted this because it would have been a vote loser .  Obama faces a very difficult task, The U.S's position as the only World Superpower is at stake , China and Russia could surpass the U.S. if Obama doesnt get the U.S back on track .  The Billion Dollar deficit , to whom is the Billion Dollars owed to ? Arent the banks going broke ? If the banks called in the debts...wouldn't the Government be insolvent ? > Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 02:05:40 -0600> From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re: [kj] Oliver...............> > The specter of President Palin forced the hand.> > It was just revealed she did not know Africa was even a continent. She > thought it was a country. And John "My Fellow Prisoners" McCain is so > old she could've become Pres. and had her hand on the nuke arsenal.> > > http://wonkette.com/404207/sarah-palin-thought-africa-was-a-country-not-a-continent > <-- video there> > > Sorry, but no. Denied. Go back to your arctic circle, ma'am, the US > state that has a lower population than many US cities.> > -Oliver> > > fluke fluke wrote:> > > > Out of curiosity, why did you vote for Obama?> > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering



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From Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk  Thu Nov  6 06:50:11 2008
From: Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk (Phillipps Marc)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 11:50:11 -0000
Subject: [kj] OT - Last Shadow Puppets
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*       (I've never heard Scott Walker, so to me it was unique.)

 

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Neil Perry
Sent: 06 November 2008 11:37
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OT - Last Shadow Puppets

 

I bought that CD the other day - very impressed also. Good to
hear something totally unique - although all the reviews said its a homage
to Scott Walker. (I've never heard Scott Walker, so to me it was unique.)
Sort of 60s music for the 21st century, or something like that. Would like
to see them do it live. I was initially sceptical as I am no fan of Arctic
Monkeys, although he (Turner) has always given interesting interviews.
And yes, can't believe he is still only 22 or whatever. Bastard.
N

2008/11/6 Bill Meissner <BMeissner at encorehollywood.com>

         Had a great day on Monday....I was listening to Steve Jones radio show (Jonesy's Jukebox) while having my morning/afternoon coffee at a locale caf? here in Hollywood. Jonesy had Miles Kane and Alex Turner on the show because they were in town to play the last show as The Last Shadow Puppets at the Mayan Theater in downtown L.A. At the end of the show I ended up winning tickets to the show! I promptly called work and told them that I was taking half the day off to go to the show. What an incredible show!!!! I walked out of the show really feeling like I saw something unique and special. They had a full orchestra backing them up and everything. The sound was amazing - Alex and Miles are truly talented musicians. Here in America we don't get this type of thing - if American musicians their age tried to do this sort of thing - it probably would come off as cheesy and nostalgic. This was very British - which is wonderful - and just totally impressed me - no rock star ego bullshit. I can't believe those guys are like 21-22 years old - Alex Turner was born to play music - I hope he's around for a long time. Anyone else out there get to see them? I'm curious what you people in England think of this project....

     Anyway - Just wanted to share my experience with you all - I was completely blown away and again felt like I saw something special - especially it being their last show. Miles goes back to The Rascals and Alex of course goes back to Arctic Monkeys who have been recording with Josh Homme from Queens of the Stoneage (can't wait to hear what comes from that collaboration....)

 

 

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From vassifer at earthlink.net  Thu Nov  6 07:17:17 2008
From: vassifer at earthlink.net (Alexander Smith)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 07:17:17 -0500
Subject: [kj] OT: Spontaneous eruption of mas singing, etc.,
	in NYC after midnight
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I live a stone's throw from Union Square, and the electricity was  
palpable, but the feeling was overwhelmingly positive.

Let's hope that lasts.

Alex in NYC


On Nov 6, 2008, at 3:02 AM, B. Oliver Sheppard wrote:

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrj_bc2Xy9s
>
>
> Above, apontaneous celebration in NYC at 1:45 AM captured on home  
> video at Union Square. Haven't quite seen anything like it, the  
> spontaneous bursting into song, etc., in my lifetime. It doesn't  
> have the ugly feel of the Bush/Cheney/9-11 nationalism, but a  
> strange new sort of resurgent American nationalism I have never seen.
>
> I'm hopeful -- I feel like I can travel to other countries now  
> without having to pretend I'm Canadian! -- but am trying to soberly  
> have no illusions about what's to come.
>
> -Oliver
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From bq at soundgardener.co.nz  Thu Nov  6 07:29:00 2008
From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 01:29:00 +1300 (NZDT)
Subject: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart
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Reminds me of Mitch Hedberg's comment about when people display photos of
themselves and go "this is a picture of me when I'm younger"

Like...EVERY picture of you is a picture of you when you're younger.

heh. That guy woulda made a kick-ass President.

> That race aged everyone!
>
> k.w.
> The Blue State of California
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: sade1
>   To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
>   Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 3:43 PM
>   Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart
>
>
>   PLUS! Plus plus plus,
>   all the people inside the TV seem to not factor in that Obama's second
>   mom had just died right out from under him and at what was a heavy,
>   super-intense time for him, too.
>   It's the 1st thing I thought of when I saw how beat-up he looked.
>
>   ... ... ... ... ... ...
>
>   [looking at the current state of things..]
>
>   'Save me...
>     save me from Tomorrow..
>       I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>   From: Bette Dillinger <bettedillinger at live.com>
>   To: gathering at misera.net
>   Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2008 11:57:38 AM
>   Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart
>
>   I told you all he was going to win and I got pissing and moaning
> yesterday......I RAWK! BLAHHHH!!! LOL
>
>   Nah, I thought his speech was mildly compelling.  I didn't think it was
> vacuous.  It addressed the major
>   issues that everyone will be experiencing.
>
>   Though I am cynical to the core about the whole process, when I saw that
> America had elected a Black
>   man over McSame, and he was standing there with his wife and two
> children waiting to speak, I have to admit that even my jaundiced eye
> had a tear in it.
>
>   Bette
>
>   > Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 08:40:37 +1300
>   > From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz
>   > To: gathering at misera.net
>   > Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart
>   >
>   > The economic dramas worldwide, which I think are only just beginning,
> if
>   > nothing else will provide Obama with a good excuse for not saving the
>   > world (oh, sorry, the US) within the first 8 hours of his tenure...and
>   > potentially 4 years down the track when he's looking for re-election
> (if
>   > he hasn't been assassinated)...
>   >
>   > > Not perhaps the most brillant speech, but I think it was more
> sobering
>   > > than
>   > > anything. Basically, he was saying, "We're gonna have a hard road to
> hoe."
>   > > What the next four years will bring is anyone's guess, but let's all
> hope
>   > > for the best.
>   > >
>   > > Cheers,
>   > >
>   > > k.w.
>   > > ----- Original Message -----
>   > > From: "Sarah's Putrefying Kunt" <crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk>
>   > > To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
>   > > <gathering at misera.net>
>   > > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 6:37 AM
>   > > Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart
>   > >
>   > >
>   > >> Obama's acceptance speech was rather vacuous wasn't it?
>   > >>
>   > >>
>   > >>
>   > >> --- On Wed, 5/11/08, fluw <fluwdot at earthlink.net> wrote:
>   > >>
>   > >>> From: fluw <fluwdot at earthlink.net>
>   > >>> Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d
>   > >>> To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'"
>   > >>> <gathering at misera.net>
>   > >>> Date: Wednesday, 5 November, 2008, 2:07 PM
>   > >>> I am excited about Obama and for what 'he says' he
>   > >>> will do, especially here
>   > >>> in the US socially - and I look forward to the
>   > >>> possibilities of people
>   > >>> coming together in the US, but anyone who thinks Obama is
>   > >>> going to make
>   > >>> drastic change overseas, in the environment, or fiscally is
>   > >>> a fool.
>   > >>>
>   > >>>
>   > >>>
>   > >>> The world is America's bitch and she likes to have her
>   > >>> ass reamed.
>   > >>
>   > >>
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From bq at soundgardener.co.nz  Thu Nov  6 07:34:31 2008
From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 01:34:31 +1300 (NZDT)
Subject: [kj] OT - Last Shadow Puppets
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I'm gonna put it out there again, anyone else rate Josh Homme as a
guitarist? I think he's kickass, magnum opus being the duelling guitars
(or complementing guitars) soloing out as the last song on Kyuss's last
album fades out...that's totally when I want someone to throw the radio in
the bath, JUST when it's peaking...

;p

>          Had a great day on Monday....I was listening to Steve Jones radio
> show (Jonesy's Jukebox) while having my morning/afternoon coffee
> at a locale caf? here in Hollywood. Jonesy had Miles Kane and
> Alex Turner on the show because they were in town to play the
> last show as The Last Shadow Puppets at the Mayan Theater in
> downtown L.A. At the end of the show I ended up winning tickets
> to the show! I promptly called work and told them that I was
> taking half the day off to go to the show. What an incredible
> show!!!! I walked out of the show really feeling like I saw
> something unique and special. They had a full orchestra backing
> them up and everything. The sound was amazing - Alex and Miles
> are truly talented musicians. Here in America we don't get this
> type of thing - if American musicians their age tried to do this
> sort of thing - it probably would come off as cheesy and
> nostalgic. This was very British - which is wonderful - and just
> totally impressed me - no rock star ego bullshit. I can't believe
> those guys are like 21-22 years old - Alex Turner was born to
> play music - I hope he's around for a long time. Anyone else out
> there get to see them? I'm curious what you people in England
> think of this project....
>
>      Anyway - Just wanted to share my experience with you all - I was
> completely blown away and again felt like I saw something special -
> especially it being their last show. Miles goes back to The Rascals
> and Alex of course goes back to Arctic Monkeys who have been
> recording with Josh Homme from Queens of the Stoneage (can't wait to
> hear what comes from that collaboration....)
>
>
>
>
>
>                 Billy Goat in Hollywood
>
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From bq at soundgardener.co.nz  Thu Nov  6 07:46:42 2008
From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 01:46:42 +1300 (NZDT)
Subject: [kj] Oliver...............
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I personally think the idea that the US's position will decline that much
is a bit premature (despite how bearish I am overall). I know people are
slowly moving towards holding more Euro as foreign reserves etc, and China
and Russia are coming up, relatively speaking...but, if you look a bit
deeper at it, China and Russia are both up serious shit creek themselves.
Russia doesn't let on about it so much but the credit crunch is nailing
them hard, and the Chinese administration is going to come under huge
stress as their growth slows. And it's really gonna slow, because all
their export markets are drastically reducing their consumption.

And the US is still such a massive economic powerhouse, with a military
second to none.

And Chuck Norris.

>
> What I found a bit discerning about these elections was the lack of
> discussion about policies amongst the electorate .
> Maybe they were discussed in the U.S., but on World forums , Americans
> seems to be discussing trivial things , A Lady even said that she was
> going to vote for Obama because he had a nice smile WFT !!!! Did she think
> that if Obama smiles at the Trillion Dollar deficit....then it will reduce
> itself to a Billion Dollar deficit ?
>    Polices should be paramamount in Elections , but then again , can you
> trust what the Politicians say ? Obama said that he would spend more on
> public services  and the other bloke (Palins mate) said that he would
> cut taxes, both of these options are impracticable , with two wars
> going on, the recession just starting, the Trillion Dollar deficit ,
> the only option is to raise taxes and to cut spending, neither of the
> Parties would have admitted this because it would have been a vote
> loser .
>   Obama faces a very difficult task, The U.S's position as the only World
> Superpower is at stake , China and Russia could surpass the U.S. if
> Obama doesnt get the U.S back on track .
>   The Billion Dollar deficit , to whom is the Billion Dollars owed to ?
> Arent the banks going broke ? If the banks called in the
> debts...wouldn't the Government be insolvent ?
>
>> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 02:05:40 -0600> From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net>
>> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re: [kj] Oliver...............> > The
>> specter of President Palin forced the hand.> > It was just revealed she
>> did not know Africa was even a continent. She > thought it was a
>> country. And John "My Fellow Prisoners" McCain is so > old she could've
>> become Pres. and had her hand on the nuke arsenal.> > >
>> http://wonkette.com/404207/sarah-palin-thought-africa-was-a-country-not-a-continent
>> > <-- video there> > > Sorry, but no. Denied. Go back to your arctic
>> circle, ma'am, the US > state that has a lower population than many US
>> cities.> > -Oliver> > > fluke fluke wrote:> > > > Out of curiosity, why
>> did you vote for Obama?> >
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From crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk  Thu Nov  6 08:13:23 2008
From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk (Palin's Political Death Rattle)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 13:13:23 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [kj] Chinese Pollution
In-Reply-To: <10506.203.185.215.144.1225975602.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz>
Message-ID: <570794.16109.qm@web23206.mail.ird.yahoo.com>

And China has a big pollution problem which is going to give them a lot of mutating BAD HELLTH.


Republicans Out Forever!


--- On Thu, 6/11/08, Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> wrote:

> From: Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
> Subject: Re: [kj] Oliver...............
> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
> Date: Thursday, 6 November, 2008, 12:46 PM
> I personally think the idea that the US's position will
> decline that much
> is a bit premature (despite how bearish I am overall). I
> know people are
> slowly moving towards holding more Euro as foreign reserves
> etc, and China
> and Russia are coming up, relatively speaking...but, if you
> look a bit
> deeper at it, China and Russia are both up serious shit
> creek themselves.
> Russia doesn't let on about it so much but the credit
> crunch is nailing
> them hard, and the Chinese administration is going to come
> under huge
> stress as their growth slows. And it's really gonna
> slow, because all
> their export markets are drastically reducing their
> consumption.
> 
> And the US is still such a massive economic powerhouse,
> with a military
> second to none.
> 
> And Chuck Norris.
> 



      

From crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk  Thu Nov  6 08:14:29 2008
From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk (Palin's Political Death Rattle)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 13:14:29 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [kj] Carla B on B Obama / OToi
In-Reply-To: <16974.203.185.215.144.1225910203.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz>
Message-ID: <812315.31452.qm@web23204.mail.ird.yahoo.com>

This is surely the finest day of my life---of American history. It would be perfect if not for Prop 8. Anyway.... The way I was raised the issue of and battle for civil rights and equality was the most important awareness my parents passed to me. I'm blown away that I lived to see a person elected president who is believable in their intentions and seems to care more about others, even outside America, than himself. That should be the least we expect from a human pulling so many strings.  To me racism is by far the most damaging force in the history of our world. That Obama's an African American alone would have made this the event of my life. I really, really keep thinking I'm dreaming. I bet i'm not alone in that. He's not perfect and I guess we'll all see what that means as times passes...... Prop 8 was passed and that shows us how far we still have to go.  We are really all brothers and sisters today. I'm sending love..... Carla  Good morning,
 Revolution: You're the very best friend I ever had. We gonna pal around together from now on.---Langston Hughes 


      

From crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk  Thu Nov  6 08:16:59 2008
From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk (Palin's Political Death Rattle)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 13:16:59 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [kj] oiOT Thalia Zedek likes Obama too!
In-Reply-To: <5E4559678712AB4DB690497BBEA99CCE0232D6B4@MIDDSTAFFMAIL.hopwood.internal>
Message-ID: <704975.78781.qm@web23207.mail.ird.yahoo.com>

...for electing Barack Obama for president of the U.S.A. Me and my friends here in the States are all very happy and relieved, as I'm sure alot of you NOT living in the U.S. are as well!!!There is a big mess to clean up, but for the first time in 8 years I feel hopeful for our future! We just got back from our European tour a week and a half ago and it was alot of fun. I want to thank all of you who came to our shows, hung out with us, put us up, cooked for us,drank with us, and just generally gave us mucho support! It was very very appreciated and it was great to catch up with some old friends! Next week we come back to Europe for the Tanned Tin festival in Castellon, Spain. The Thalia Zedek Band will play on the 14th (going on after fellow Bostonians Neptune!!!) and on Saturday the 15th TZ Band members Winston, Daniel, and myself will be joined by Chris Brokaw (New Year, Thurston Moore, etc. etc. YOU KNOW WHO HE IS) for a one off Come reunion show.It
 should be alot of fun and hopefully some of you can make it! After that we don't have too much planned (holidays and stuff) so you may not hear from me for awhile, but I will keep y'all posted with any new developments. Thanks again!!! Thalia 


      

From crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk  Thu Nov  6 08:21:52 2008
From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk (Palin's Political Death Rattle)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 13:21:52 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [kj] Joshing OToi
In-Reply-To: <61198.203.185.215.144.1225974871.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz>
Message-ID: <621672.37639.qm@web23204.mail.ird.yahoo.com>

I got that Desert Sessions CD that PJ Harvey sang on but I finmd it all a bit corny except for the song
"Never Be A Better Time"
which has no involvement from Homme

RTX, Kristin Hersh, Githead, Shellac, Michael Gira, 
The Dirty Three & Genesis P-Orridge 
interviewed here:
http://www.perfectsoundforever.com

Republicans Out Forever!


--- On Thu, 6/11/08, Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> wrote:

> From: Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
> Subject: Re: [kj] OT - Last Shadow Puppets
> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
> Date: Thursday, 6 November, 2008, 12:34 PM
> I'm gonna put it out there again, anyone else rate Josh
> Homme as a
> guitarist? I think he's kickass, magnum opus being the
> duelling guitars
> (or complementing guitars) soloing out as the last song on
> Kyuss's last
> album fades out...that's totally when I want someone to
> throw the radio in
> the bath, JUST when it's peaking...
> 
> ;p
> 
> >          Had a great day on Monday....I was listening
> to Steve Jones radio
> > show (Jonesy's Jukebox) while having my
> morning/afternoon coffee
> > at a locale caf? here in Hollywood. Jonesy had Miles
> Kane and
> > Alex Turner on the show because they were in town to
> play the
> > last show as The Last Shadow Puppets at the Mayan
> Theater in
> > downtown L.A. At the end of the show I ended up
> winning tickets
> > to the show! I promptly called work and told them that
> I was
> > taking half the day off to go to the show. What an
> incredible
> > show!!!! I walked out of the show really feeling like
> I saw
> > something unique and special. They had a full
> orchestra backing
> > them up and everything. The sound was amazing - Alex
> and Miles
> > are truly talented musicians. Here in America we
> don't get this
> > type of thing - if American musicians their age tried
> to do this
> > sort of thing - it probably would come off as cheesy
> and
> > nostalgic. This was very British - which is wonderful
> - and just
> > totally impressed me - no rock star ego bullshit. I
> can't believe
> > those guys are like 21-22 years old - Alex Turner was
> born to
> > play music - I hope he's around for a long time.
> Anyone else out
> > there get to see them? I'm curious what you people
> in England
> > think of this project....
> >
> >      Anyway - Just wanted to share my experience with
> you all - I was
> > completely blown away and again felt like I saw
> something special -
> > especially it being their last show. Miles goes back
> to The Rascals
> > and Alex of course goes back to Arctic Monkeys who
> have been
> > recording with Josh Homme from Queens of the Stoneage
> (can't wait to
> > hear what comes from that collaboration....)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >                 Billy Goat in Hollywood
> >
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From bq at soundgardener.co.nz  Thu Nov  6 08:22:17 2008
From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 02:22:17 +1300 (NZDT)
Subject: [kj] OT: Hope is for the loser...
Message-ID: <49438.203.185.215.144.1225977737.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz>

http://www.stuff.co.nz/4752034a28.html

http://www.stuff.co.nz/4752034a28.html

PS: Someone should do a remix of the Hater song 'Sad McBain'


From crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk  Thu Nov  6 08:25:33 2008
From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk (Palin's Political Death Rattle)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 13:25:33 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [kj] Unspeakably Bored
In-Reply-To: <BAY135-W336B7C7A84456B31D52585981E0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <303978.41548.qm@web23205.mail.ird.yahoo.com>

Funny I was listening to that very Clash song just this morning
also
The Hum, Unspeakable & Exit from Peel Sessions CD

> From: jerry bodkin <jelbod at hotmail.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: [kj] Oliver...............
> To: gathering at misera.net
> Date: Thursday, 6 November, 2008, 11:40 AM
> I'm so bored with the U. S. A!
>  
>  Jel....erm....Killing Joke fan!
> 



      

From crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk  Thu Nov  6 08:26:56 2008
From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk (Palin's Political Death Rattle)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 13:26:56 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [kj] [MA] The Air Pours Out of the Enemy
In-Reply-To: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC0722A4@mr-pants.the-lab.local>
Message-ID: <573492.40860.qm@web23204.mail.ird.yahoo.com>


Has anyone ever approached you to use "Feed the Enemy" or "The Thin Air" in a film, because they seem like perfect songs to use on a soundtrack?

Howard Devoto: I'm not aware of it, not those two.

So have other songs ended up on film soundtracks?

Dave Formula: Recently there was a film being made in Liverpool and they want to use "The Light Pours Out of Me."

Is "The Light Pours Out of Me" about death?

HD: I wouldn't say so particularly. There are much better songs about death if you want them.

I have that assosciation as I was listening to that song when our family dog was run over and killed, so it always reminds me of that day in the late eighties.

DF: What was the dog called?

Wilbur. He just got out of the garden and ran into the road and got hit by a car.

HD: I know what you mean. I mean, "Jerks out of me like blood." As much as I can cast my mind back there, I wouldn't have said so, not in any upfront way.

I was listening to that song on the way here and the line that sprung out at me was, "The conspiracy of silence ought to revolutionise my thoughts." What were you thinking of when you wrote that?

HD: Its almost two cliches playing with each other; a conspiracy of silence and thought being revolutionised. That particular phrase goes back so far in my life. That phrase goes back years before Magazine actually! So the origin of that specific phrase is utterly lost to me.



      

From fluke1 at live.co.uk  Thu Nov  6 08:36:54 2008
From: fluke1 at live.co.uk (fluke fluke)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 13:36:54 +0000
Subject: [kj] Unspeakably Bored
In-Reply-To: <303978.41548.qm@web23205.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
References: <BAY135-W336B7C7A84456B31D52585981E0@phx.gbl>
	<303978.41548.qm@web23205.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BLU108-W23D84A10340DE7E9B7DAF0BE1E0@phx.gbl>


 
   What volume did you have it at ?
 
 
> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 13:25:33 +0000> From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: [kj] Unspeakably Bored> > Funny I was listening to that very Clash song just this morning> also> The Hum, Unspeakable & Exit from Peel Sessions CD> > > From: jerry bodkin <jelbod at hotmail.co.uk>> > Subject: Re: [kj] Oliver...............> > To: gathering at misera.net> > Date: Thursday, 6 November, 2008, 11:40 AM> > I'm so bored with the U. S. A!> > > > Jel....erm....Killing Joke fan!> > > > > > > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
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From fluke1 at live.co.uk  Thu Nov  6 08:39:59 2008
From: fluke1 at live.co.uk (fluke fluke)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 13:39:59 +0000
Subject: [kj] Jel...............
In-Reply-To: <BAY135-W336B7C7A84456B31D52585981E0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU108-W7F4989B66DB6BCC65E624BE1F0@phx.gbl>
	<4912A554.7030201@sbcglobal.net> 
	<BLU108-W3CC584FA26A5BB4F0CBF7BE1E0@phx.gbl> 
	<BAY135-W336B7C7A84456B31D52585981E0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BLU108-W51EE97E51A26BDFEAB867DBE1E0@phx.gbl>


 
 
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=KE1HSI_IqP0
 
   Do you like this song Jel ?
I'm still waiting for it to grow on me
 
 
 




From: jelbod at hotmail.co.ukTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 11:40:35 +0000Subject: Re: [kj] Oliver...............

  I'm so bored with the U. S. A!  Jel....erm....Killing Joke fan!



From: fluke1 at live.co.ukTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 11:00:01 +0000Subject: Re: [kj] Oliver...............

What I found a bit discerning about these elections was the lack of discussion about policies amongst the electorate .Maybe they were discussed in the U.S., but on World forums , Americans seems to be discussing trivial things , A Lady even said that she was going to vote for Obama because he had a nice smile WFT !!!! Did she think that if Obama smiles at the Trillion Dollar deficit....then it will reduce itself to a Billion Dollar deficit ?   Polices should be paramamount in Elections , but then again , can you trust what the Politicians say ? Obama said that he would spend more on public services  and the other bloke (Palins mate) said that he would cut taxes, both of these options are impracticable , with two wars going on, the recession just starting, the Trillion Dollar deficit , the only option is to raise taxes and to cut spending, neither of the Parties would have admitted this because it would have been a vote loser .  Obama faces a very difficult task, The U.S's position as the only World Superpower is at stake , China and Russia could surpass the U.S. if Obama doesnt get the U.S back on track .  The Billion Dollar deficit , to whom is the Billion Dollars owed to ? Arent the banks going broke ? If the banks called in the debts...wouldn't the Government be insolvent ? > Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 02:05:40 -0600> From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re: [kj] Oliver...............> > The specter of President Palin forced the hand.> > It was just revealed she did not know Africa was even a continent. She > thought it was a country. And John "My Fellow Prisoners" McCain is so > old she could've become Pres. and had her hand on the nuke arsenal.> > > http://wonkette.com/404207/sarah-palin-thought-africa-was-a-country-not-a-continent > <-- video there> > > Sorry, but no. Denied. Go back to your arctic circle, ma'am, the US > state that has a lower population than many US cities.> > -Oliver> > > fluke fluke wrote:> > > > Out of curiosity, why did you vote for Obama?> > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering



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From crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk  Thu Nov  6 08:44:20 2008
From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk (Palin's Political Death Rattle)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 13:44:20 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [kj] What is Fluke?
In-Reply-To: <BLU108-W7F4989B66DB6BCC65E624BE1F0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <330512.54548.qm@web23205.mail.ird.yahoo.com>

--- On Wed, 5/11/08, fluke fluke <fluke1 at live.co.uk> wrote:
> Out of curiosity, why did you vote for Obama?


Because he is a parasite from a farm animal



Republicans Out Forever!


> _________________________________________________________________



      

From crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk  Thu Nov  6 08:49:28 2008
From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk (Palin's Political Death Rattle)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 13:49:28 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [kj] Asteroid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In-Reply-To: <8F8652DC1AF747289210BFBF78599BD9@edweil>
Message-ID: <689714.1701.qm@web23207.mail.ird.yahoo.com>

Positive thinking won't stop an asteroid hitting us...

Then again?


> From: Karen Weil <karen.weil at sddt.com>
> Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart
> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
> Date: Wednesday, 5 November, 2008, 9:03 PM
> Point taken, Brendan.
> Have a good one.
> 
> k.w.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Brendan" <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the
> band!)" 
> <gathering at misera.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 12:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart
> 
> 
> > Tone doesn't translate in email, which is why I
> sprinlke so many smileys
> > around...I should have here cos I was being sardonic
> to some extent. In an
> > earlier email tonight I was saying that I think
> he'll have a positive
> > impact overall...but like Bongo and a few others, and
> Noam Chomsky who I
> > quoted and agree with Oliver on, I don't see a
> fundamental change in the
> > power structure coming. 


      

From crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk  Thu Nov  6 08:50:52 2008
From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk (Palin's Political Death Rattle)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 13:50:52 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [kj] Palin Hellspawn
In-Reply-To: <4912A554.7030201@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <958915.88816.qm@web23208.mail.ird.yahoo.com>

Have you seen her son Trig?

Looks like an inbred retard baby from Hell!

> From: B. Oliver Sheppard <bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [kj] Oliver...............
> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
> Date: Thursday, 6 November, 2008, 8:05 AM
> The specter of President Palin forced the hand.
> 
> It was just revealed she did not know Africa was even a
> continent. 


      

From crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk  Thu Nov  6 08:53:27 2008
From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk (Palin's Political Death Rattle)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 13:53:27 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [kj] OT: Spontaneous eruption of Mugstar in Manchester
In-Reply-To: <4912A49B.5020908@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <991972.45767.qm@web23206.mail.ird.yahoo.com>

Mugstar, Laymar, Stray Dog Cafe & Blood Moon totally kicked up a riht royal racket last night in Manchester! First thing Blood Moon bassist said was just Obama then they blasted off...


Republicans Out Forever!


--- On Thu, 6/11/08, B. Oliver Sheppard <bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> From: B. Oliver Sheppard <bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: [kj] OT: Spontaneous eruption of mas singing, etc., in NYC after midnight
> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
> Date: Thursday, 6 November, 2008, 8:02 AM
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrj_bc2Xy9s
> 
> 
> Above, apontaneous celebration in NYC at 1:45 AM captured
> on home video at Union Square. Haven't quite seen
> anything like it, the spontaneous bursting into song, etc.,
> in my lifetime. It doesn't have the ugly feel of the
> Bush/Cheney/9-11 nationalism, but a strange new sort of
> resurgent American nationalism I have never seen.
> 
> I'm hopeful -- I feel like I can travel to other
> countries now without having to pretend I'm Canadian! --
> but am trying to soberly have no illusions about what's
> to come.
> 
> -Oliver
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From joker at Z6.com  Thu Nov  6 08:56:29 2008
From: joker at Z6.com (Rob's Arse)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 05:56:29 -0800
Subject: [kj] Palin Hellspawn
Message-ID: <20081106055629.6A0055D5@resin18.mta.everyone.net>


Bearing in mind that the child has Down's Syndrome, this is pretty shitty even by your standards.

For once and for all, shut the fuck up will you, you vile piece of shit.


www.iamscuzzy.com www.myspace.com/scuzzywear

--- crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk wrote:

From: Palin's Political Death Rattle <crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk>
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)" <gathering at misera.net>
Subject: [kj] Palin Hellspawn
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 13:50:52 +0000 (GMT)

Have you seen her son Trig?

Looks like an inbred retard baby from Hell!

> From: B. Oliver Sheppard <bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [kj] Oliver...............
> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
> Date: Thursday, 6 November, 2008, 8:05 AM
> The specter of President Palin forced the hand.
> 
> It was just revealed she did not know Africa was even a
> continent. 


      
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From fluke1 at live.co.uk  Thu Nov  6 08:56:50 2008
From: fluke1 at live.co.uk (fluke fluke)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 13:56:50 +0000
Subject: [kj] What is Fluke?
In-Reply-To: <330512.54548.qm@web23205.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
References: <BLU108-W7F4989B66DB6BCC65E624BE1F0@phx.gbl>
	<330512.54548.qm@web23205.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BLU108-W36E05586AEB1B2C96715CFBE1E0@phx.gbl>


 
Which is a darn sight better then being the offspring / production/reproduction  from the film Animal Farm  Father : German with a beard.  Mother : Goat
 
 
 

 
> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 13:44:20 +0000> From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: [kj] What is Fluke?> > --- On Wed, 5/11/08, fluke fluke <fluke1 at live.co.uk> wrote:> > Out of curiosity, why did you vote for Obama?> > > Because he is a parasite from a farm animal> > > > Republicans Out Forever!> > > > _________________________________________________________________> > > > > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
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From crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk  Thu Nov  6 08:59:07 2008
From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk (Palin's Political Death Rattle)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 13:59:07 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-the right to work at McDonalds
In-Reply-To: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC0722A5@mr-pants.the-lab.local>
Message-ID: <649612.56739.qm@web23203.mail.ird.yahoo.com>

Positive change!
Black people get to despoil the planet owning Muckdonaldo franchises too!
Long live the USA and its 51st State!

Republicans Out Forever!


--- On Wed, 5/11/08, ade <ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk> wrote:

> From: ade <ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d
> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
> Date: Wednesday, 5 November, 2008, 8:53 PM
> Yeah, all that sort of stuff - loads of it probably!
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Bette
> Dillinger
> Sent: 05 November 2008 20:01
> To: gathering at misera.net
> Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d
> 
> 
> I also see people saying "Black people don't have
> it worse than white people.......look who is in the White
> House!  The President is Black, so there is no
> discrimination!".......like Stephen Colbert jokes,
> whites just "won't see race".
> 
> 
>   _____  
> 
> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 11:30:09 -0800
> From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com
> To: gathering at misera.net
> Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d
> 
> 
> > the right will simply say... "no excuses now, a
> black man made it..."
>  
> BINGO!! ding-ding-ding-ding!  OH! *Las Vegas flashbacks*
>  
> And not just the right, but all americans, who've felt
> that til-now-denied guilt over blacks.  
> Notice how lotsa articles have been ab out post-racial
> this, post-racial that, 'is this the end 
> of Race,' '...the end of Race politics,'etc. as
> if "some" are dying to bypass the issue then 
> believe it never existed. 
>  
>   Now, if blacks (individuals and group) don't rise up,
> people 
> really will feel justified in openly calling them
> "lazy."
>  
> May the excuses begin...
>  
> ... ... ... ... ... ... 
> 
> [looking at the current state of things..]
>  
> 
> 'Save me...
>   save me from Tomorrow..
>     I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...' 
>  
>  
> 
> 
> 
>   _____  
> 
> From: ade <ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk>
> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
> <gathering at misera.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2008 11:15:41 AM
> Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d
> 
> 
> I think the right will simply say to the black community
> "no excuses now, a black man made it to
> presidency"
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of fluw
> Sent: 05 November 2008 14:07
> To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the
> band!)'
> Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d
> 
> 
> 
> I am excited about Obama and for what ?he says? he will
> do, especially here in the US socially - and I look forward
> to the possibilities of people coming together in the US,
> but anyone who thinks Obama is going to make drastic change
> overseas, in the environment, or fiscally is a fool.
> 
>  
> 
> The world is America ?s bitch and she likes to have her
> ass reamed.
> 
>  
> 
> Ralph Nader or Cynthia McKinney would be the only
> candidates able to offer change that benefits those who
> suffer at the hands of America !
> 
>  
> 
> Everything will be the same ?cept the US basketball
> courts and jobsites will have more inter 
> 
> - racial camaraderie?maybe. 
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> 
>   _____  
> 
> 
> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Matthew
> Burke
> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 12:42 AM
> To: gathering
> Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d
> 
>  
> 
> Wow, another Wall St. puppet that openly embraces war . . .
> things should change immediately.
> 
> 
> 
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From crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk  Thu Nov  6 09:00:10 2008
From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk (Palin's Political Death Rattle)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 14:00:10 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [kj] What is Fluke?
In-Reply-To: <BLU108-W36E05586AEB1B2C96715CFBE1E0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <532254.94955.qm@web23207.mail.ird.yahoo.com>

You really think so?

I guess you're even stupider than I imagined!


Republicans Out Forever!


--- On Thu, 6/11/08, fluke fluke <fluke1 at live.co.uk> wrote:

> From: fluke fluke <fluke1 at live.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: [kj] What is Fluke?
> To: gathering at misera.net
> Date: Thursday, 6 November, 2008, 1:56 PM
> Which is a darn sight better then being the offspring /
> production/reproduction  from the film Animal Farm  Father :
> German with a beard.  Mother : Goat
>  
>  
>  
> 
>  
> > Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 13:44:20 +0000> From:
> crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk> To: gathering at misera.net>
> Subject: [kj] What is Fluke?> > --- On Wed, 5/11/08,
> fluke fluke <fluke1 at live.co.uk> wrote:> > Out of
> curiosity, why did you vote for Obama?> > > Because
> he is a parasite from a farm animal> > > >
> Republicans Out Forever!> > > >
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From crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk  Thu Nov  6 09:02:30 2008
From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk (Palin's Political Death Rattle)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 14:02:30 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [kj] Palin Hellspawn
In-Reply-To: <958915.88816.qm@web23208.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <130257.59330.qm@web23203.mail.ird.yahoo.com>

Downs Syndrome?
I guess thats what happen when mommy fucks a pitbull up the arse!

Don't you like my sense of tumour?

Republicans Out Forever!


--- On Thu, 6/11/08, Palin's Political Death Rattle <crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> From: Palin's Political Death Rattle <crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk>
> Subject: [kj] Palin Hellspawn
> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
> Date: Thursday, 6 November, 2008, 1:50 PM
> Have you seen her son Trig?
> 
> Looks like an inbred retard baby from Hell!
> 
> > From: B. Oliver Sheppard
> <bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net>
> > Subject: Re: [kj] Oliver...............
> > To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the
> band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
> > Date: Thursday, 6 November, 2008, 8:05 AM
> > The specter of President Palin forced the hand.
> > 
> > It was just revealed she did not know Africa was even
> a
> > continent. 
> 
> 
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From crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk  Thu Nov  6 09:05:43 2008
From: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk (Palin's Political Death Rattle)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 14:05:43 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [kj] McPain
In-Reply-To: <615087.4253.qm@web52610.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <182764.1679.qm@web23202.mail.ird.yahoo.com>

Yeah ol' McPain did sound rather relieved in his concession speech, didn't even grab Hocky Pitbull Retard Baby's ass! What a nice old man he was! 

RTX, Kristin Hersh, Githead, Shellac, Michael Gira, 
The Dirty Three & Genesis P-Orridge 
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Republicans Out Forever!


--- On Wed, 5/11/08, sade1 <saulomar1 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: sade1 <saulomar1 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this
> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
> Date: Wednesday, 5 November, 2008, 7:23 PM
> > And how right you were
> ?
> Hail Caesar!
> ?
> 
> But I am still genuinely stunned and amazed that the
> Republicans didn't steal it. But?then, who would want
> to steal power in this America and its horrible conditions
> right now. Maybe they thought it's a lose-lose
> situation, "no thanks."
> 
> I think the meaning in his speech was in the tone with
> which he gave it, as if it dawned on him noe even more that
> he now has (given?the unbelievable condtitions u.s./world
> are in) the most unenviable job in the world, and in this
> real-time Reality, too, ifyouknowwhatImean....? 
> 
> Godspeed to you, black Emperor.
> 
> no i never heard 
> that band, i just 
> thought it fit the above.
> 
> 
> ... ... ... ... ... ... 
> 
> [looking at the current?state of things..]
> ?
> 'Save me...
> ? save me?from Tomorrow..
> ??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of
> Fools...'?? 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Karen Weil <karen.weil at sddt.com>
> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
> <gathering at misera.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2008 11:07:10 AM
> Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this
> 
> 
> And how right you were, sade!? : )
> I concede! 
> ?
> k.w.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: sade1 
> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 6:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this
> 
> > Let's not get too carried away.. 
> 
> I will. ;)
> 
> John McCain lost Pennsylvania, John McCain lost Ohio: John
> McCain lost.? Obama is President.
> 
> 
> 
> ... ... ... ... ... ... 
> 
> [looking at the current?state of things..]
> ?
> 'Save me...
> ? save me?from Tomorrow..
> ??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of
> Fools...'?? 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Karen Weil <karen.weil at sddt.com>
> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
> <gathering at misera.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2008 6:14:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this
> 
> Howdy, TB:
> 
> Let's not get too carried away, yet . But I like your
> optimism, regardless!
> 
> k.w.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "TB"
> <partyslammer at socal.rr.com>
> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the
> band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 6:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this
> 
> 
> > "melinda grant" wrote:
> > 
> > i wish i could be in the u.s.a for all this election
> feaver,i could not vote anyhow as i am british citizen and
> in u.k at mo---i have several great aunts and about 30
> cousins spread over u.s.a they would have voted--i really
> hope obama gets in i really do or i predict a riot if he
> does not--if for instance he looses by a slight few votes ;(
> > 
> > +++++++++
> > 
> > Already, Obama has 174 to McCains' measly 49
> electoral votes (either candidate needs 270 or more to
> win).? The news broadcasts are practically chomping at the
> bit to call the race but aren't because polls don't
> close here on the West Coast for another two hours, plus
> they'll lose viewers. There is zero doubt Obama will
> win, and in fact it could be one of the biggest landslides
> in US history.
> > 
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From joker at Z6.com  Thu Nov  6 09:08:50 2008
From: joker at Z6.com (Rob's Arse)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 06:08:50 -0800
Subject: [kj] Palin Hellspawn
Message-ID: <20081106060850.6A005793@resin18.mta.everyone.net>


Simply, no. I don't.

It's not a sense of humour. It's not funny and I fail to see how anyone with any sense of decency could ever condone calling a child with Downs Syndrome a, how did you put it, "inbred retard baby from Hell". 

Do you want to apologise?
I think it would be appropriate.



www.iamscuzzy.com www.myspace.com/scuzzywear

--- crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk wrote:

From: Palin's Political Death Rattle <crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk>
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] Palin Hellspawn
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 14:02:30 +0000 (GMT)

Downs Syndrome?
I guess thats what happen when mommy fucks a pitbull up the arse!

Don't you like my sense of tumour?

Republicans Out Forever!


--- On Thu, 6/11/08, Palin's Political Death Rattle <crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> From: Palin's Political Death Rattle <crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk>
> Subject: [kj] Palin Hellspawn
> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
> Date: Thursday, 6 November, 2008, 1:50 PM
> Have you seen her son Trig?
> 
> Looks like an inbred retard baby from Hell!
> 
> > From: B. Oliver Sheppard
> <bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net>
> > Subject: Re: [kj] Oliver...............
> > To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the
> band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
> > Date: Thursday, 6 November, 2008, 8:05 AM
> > The specter of President Palin forced the hand.
> > 
> > It was just revealed she did not know Africa was even
> a
> > continent. 
> 
> 
>       
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From fluke1 at live.co.uk  Thu Nov  6 09:09:33 2008
From: fluke1 at live.co.uk (fluke fluke)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 14:09:33 +0000
Subject: [kj] The Fireman Finds His Voice With Brand New Album
Message-ID: <BLU108-W54C396005C3178A42F4B62BE1E0@phx.gbl>


The Fireman Finds His Voice With Brand New Album Electric ArgumentsAlbum Release Date: 17th November 2008 The Fireman are back after a ten-year break and this time they have something to sing about. For the first time ever the The Fireman have found their voice, Electric Arguments is their first release to feature vocals. Electric Arguments is their third and brand new studio album and it???s not the album people might expect from the mysterious duo??????Ambient dreams in rainbow arches describe the circles of The Fireman???, is how the duo described their music in a rare interview around the release of their last album ???Rushes??? in 1998. Their first album ???Strawberries Oceans Ships Forest???, released in 1993, was a solid ambient dance album heavy on electronics. Around this time the identity of The Fireman was unknown until the press exposed the duo as none other than Paul McCartney and Youth. The now defunct music bible Melody Maker heaped praise on the project, ???Paul McCartney has discovered dance music ??? the results are staggeringly brilliant. They (The Fireman) take a melody and, with dexterous genre-hopping through ambient, trance and house, evolve a number of breathtaking variations.???Last year The Fireman returned to work again to start work on what would become Electric Arguments. The results this time are entirely different.Earlier this year The Fireman donated a new track, Lifelong Passion, from Electric Arguments, to the charity Adopt-A-Minefield. This new track marked a directional change for The Fireman. Lifelong Passion showcased a new more traditional song based sound with vocals, going against the sound of the first two albums. And so the speculation began. A ???studio source??? was quoted in The Times as describing their new sound ???like Arcade Fire meets Led Zeppelin???. So what had The Fireman been up to and what does the album sound like?Electric Arguments is an eclectic and varied album consisting of thirteen tracks recorded in thirteen days over the period of nearly a year. Each track was written and recorded in the space of one day. The Fireman went into the studio with no plan or clear direction of how they wanted the album to sound. The project took a life of its own and the results will surprise anyone expecting to hear the previous sound of the band.The album???s opener Nothing Too Much Just Out Of Sight is classic rock and an instant attention grabber. A heavy guitar riff with loud drums and souring vocals, it???s like nothing The Fireman have ever done before. The second track, the acoustic driven Two Magpies immediately takes you in a different direction, calming things right down. Then we reach the third song Sing The Changes, a euphoric upbeat song with an instantly memorable melody. Electric Arguments continues in this fashion, keeping the listener intrigued as to where The Fireman will take them next. Each album track has an entirely different personality, yet somehow this collection sits together perfectly. Other standout tracks include ???Light From Your Lighthouse???, ???Sun Is Shining??? and ???Dance ???Til We???re High???, all in keeping with the genre-hopping spirit of the first two The Fireman albums. Electric Arguments demonstrates that Paul McCartney is still interested in pure musical possibilities. This is an album set to both surprise and delight the listener. Made with no record company restraints or a set release date to work to, Electric Arguments was made with complete artistic and creative freedom
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From Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk  Thu Nov  6 09:39:20 2008
From: Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk (Phillipps Marc)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 14:39:20 -0000
Subject: [kj] Palin Hellspawn
References: <130257.59330.qm@web23203.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
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>Don't you like my sense of tumour?

I am afraid not

You have been warned before, consider yourself banned now 


Marc.
 
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From Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk  Thu Nov  6 09:42:09 2008
From: Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk (Phillipps Marc)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 14:42:09 -0000
Subject: [kj] The Fireman Finds His Voice With Brand New Album
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>The Fireman Finds His Voice With Brand New Album Electric Arguments

 

Sounds interesting. . I liked the other two Fireman albums, very very
ambient though!
 
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From powens at gmail.com  Thu Nov  6 09:43:29 2008
From: powens at gmail.com (powens)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 14:43:29 +0000
Subject: [kj] Palin Hellspawn
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This and Obama in the same week? Ambassador you are spoiling us!

john-paul



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From Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk  Thu Nov  6 09:48:20 2008
From: Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk (Phillipps Marc)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 14:48:20 -0000
Subject: [kj] Palin Hellspawn
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:o) 

 

Even I can have enough sometimes . . .

 

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On Behalf Of powens
Sent: 06 November 2008 14:43
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Subject: Re: [kj] Palin Hellspawn

 

This and Obama in the same week? Ambassador you are spoiling us!

john-paul




2008/11/6 Phillipps Marc <Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk>

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I am afraid not

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From joker at Z6.com  Thu Nov  6 09:49:50 2008
From: joker at Z6.com (Rob's Arse)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 06:49:50 -0800
Subject: [kj] Palin Hellspawn
Message-ID: <20081106064950.6A006897@resin18.mta.everyone.net>

Thanks Marc.

Spits and spats are always gonna happen, but I put this sort of thing in the same class as racism, somethinmg that just can't be tolerated.

Cheers

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To: <crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk>,	"A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)" <gathering at misera.net>
Subject: Re: [kj] Palin Hellspawn
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 14:39:20 -0000

>Don't you like my sense of tumour?

I am afraid not

You have been warned before, consider yourself banned now 


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From fluke1 at live.co.uk  Thu Nov  6 09:57:34 2008
From: fluke1 at live.co.uk (fluke fluke)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 14:57:34 +0000
Subject: [kj] Palin Hellspawn
In-Reply-To: <20081106064950.6A006897@resin18.mta.everyone.net>
References: <20081106064950.6A006897@resin18.mta.everyone.net>
Message-ID: <BLU108-W596EEC75376580C78081D5BE1E0@phx.gbl>


 
 
   Dont forget this Rob , this belongs in the "intolerable" group as well .
 
 
 
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=c8wdyRpA1rA
 
> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 06:49:50 -0800> From: joker at Z6.com> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re: [kj] Palin Hellspawn> > Thanks Marc.> > Spits and spats are always gonna happen, but I put this sort of thing in the same class as racism, somethinmg that just can't be tolerated.> > Cheers> > www.iamscuzzy.com www.myspace.com/scuzzywear> > --- Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk wrote:> > From: "Phillipps Marc" <Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk>> To: <crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk>, "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)" <gathering at misera.net>> Subject: Re: [kj] Palin Hellspawn> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 14:39:20 -0000> > >Don't you like my sense of tumour?> > I am afraid not> > You have been warned before, consider yourself banned now > > > Marc.> > This communication may contain information that is confidential and legally privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information within is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please return it to the sender, then delete and destroy any copies of it. The Health Informatics Service disclaims any liability for action taken reliant on the content of this message. This communication is from the Health Informatics Service serving Barnet Enfield & Haringey Health Communities.> _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering> > > > > _____________________________________________________________> Free email at www.Z6.com ( and home of www.worldmap.com)> _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
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From a.tolksdorf at yahoo.co.uk  Thu Nov  6 10:00:16 2008
From: a.tolksdorf at yahoo.co.uk (Alexandra Tolksdorf)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 15:00:16 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [kj] Palin Hellspawn
In-Reply-To: <BD60B2A89D16094897629D4CCC50B1CB3A4838@ED01VN01.NCL-HIS.NHS.UK>
Message-ID: <406760.88403.qm@web28606.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>

Thank you.

~Alexandra.

--- On Thu, 6/11/08, Phillipps Marc <Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk> wrote:

From: Phillipps Marc <Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk>
Subject: Re: [kj] Palin Hellspawn
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
Date: Thursday, 6 November, 2008, 2:48 PM









:o) 
?
Even I can have enough sometimes . . .
?




From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of powens
Sent: 06 November 2008 14:43
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] Palin Hellspawn
?
This and Obama in the same week? Ambassador you are spoiling us!

john-paul




2008/11/6 Phillipps Marc <Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk>
>Don't you like my sense of tumour?

I am afraid not

You have been warned before, consider yourself banned now


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From fatpotanga at gmail.com  Thu Nov  6 10:01:48 2008
From: fatpotanga at gmail.com (fatpotanga)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 15:01:48 +0000
Subject: [kj] Palin Hellspawn
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yay!

On 6 Nov 2008, at 14:39, Phillipps Marc wrote:

>> Don't you like my sense of tumour?
>
> I am afraid not
>
> You have been warned before, consider yourself banned now
>
>
> Marc.

From fluke1 at live.co.uk  Thu Nov  6 10:10:24 2008
From: fluke1 at live.co.uk (fluke fluke)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 15:10:24 +0000
Subject: [kj] Original or cover......
Message-ID: <BLU108-W45B134AC0E1C421753A095BE1E0@phx.gbl>


 
Is this Killing joke or a cover band ?
 
 
 
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From bq at soundgardener.co.nz  Thu Nov  6 10:11:04 2008
From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 04:11:04 +1300 (NZDT)
Subject: [kj] Palin Hellspawn
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References: <20081106064950.6A006897@resin18.mta.everyone.net>
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The neighbours are gonna cop it with the loud music now...

> Thanks Marc.
>
> Spits and spats are always gonna happen, but I put this sort of thing in
> the same class as racism, somethinmg that just can't be tolerated.
>
> Cheers
>
> www.iamscuzzy.com www.myspace.com/scuzzywear
>
> --- Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk wrote:
>
> From: "Phillipps Marc" <Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk>
> To: <crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk>,	"A list about all things Killing Joke
> \(the band!\)" <gathering at misera.net>
> Subject: Re: [kj] Palin Hellspawn
> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 14:39:20 -0000
>
>>Don't you like my sense of tumour?
>
> I am afraid not
>
> You have been warned before, consider yourself banned now
>
>
> Marc.
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From partyslammer at socal.rr.com  Thu Nov  6 10:13:56 2008
From: partyslammer at socal.rr.com (TB)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 07:13:56 -0800
Subject: [kj] Palin Hellspawn
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Message-ID: <80FBA85503D24B89A1FFDA884FBCBCC8@Bell2007PC>

"Phillipps Marc" wrote:


> >Don't you like my sense of tumour?
> 
> I am afraid not
> 
> You have been warned before, consider yourself banned now 

Now that's change I can believe in!

T.B.

From bq at soundgardener.co.nz  Thu Nov  6 10:18:59 2008
From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 04:18:59 +1300 (NZDT)
Subject: [kj] Palin Hellspawn
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So I turned myself to face me
But I've never caught a glimpse
Of how the others must see the faker

Oh how true...that's one un-self-aware individual.

> "Phillipps Marc" wrote:
>
>
>> >Don't you like my sense of tumour?
>>
>> I am afraid not
>>
>> You have been warned before, consider yourself banned now
>
> Now that's change I can believe in!
>
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From fluwdot at earthlink.net  Thu Nov  6 10:25:49 2008
From: fluwdot at earthlink.net (fluw)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 10:25:49 -0500
Subject: [kj] Palin Hellspawn
In-Reply-To: <130257.59330.qm@web23203.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <E1Ky6k2-0004eH-PC@elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Just go the fuck away would ya

 

-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Palin's Political Death Rattle
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 9:03 AM
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] Palin Hellspawn

 

Downs Syndrome?

I guess thats what happen when mommy fucks a pitbull up the arse!

 

Don't you like my sense of tumour?

 

Republicans Out Forever!

 

 

--- On Thu, 6/11/08, Palin's Political Death Rattle
<crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

 

> From: Palin's Political Death Rattle <crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk>

> Subject: [kj] Palin Hellspawn

> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
<gathering at misera.net>

> Date: Thursday, 6 November, 2008, 1:50 PM

> Have you seen her son Trig?

> 

> Looks like an inbred retard baby from Hell!

> 

> > From: B. Oliver Sheppard

> <bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net>

> > Subject: Re: [kj] Oliver...............

> > To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the

> band!)" <gathering at misera.net>

> > Date: Thursday, 6 November, 2008, 8:05 AM

> > The specter of President Palin forced the hand.

> > 

> > It was just revealed she did not know Africa was even

> a

> > continent. 

> 

> 

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From fluwdot at earthlink.net  Thu Nov  6 10:32:33 2008
From: fluwdot at earthlink.net (fluw)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 10:32:33 -0500
Subject: [kj] Original or cover......
In-Reply-To: <BLU108-W45B134AC0E1C421753A095BE1E0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <E1Ky6qW-0004Qc-K6@elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

That guitar sounds like worm shit

 

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of fluke fluke
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 10:10 AM
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: [kj] Original or cover......

 

 
Is this Killing joke or a cover band ?
 
 
 
    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=tR7Jodf6URQ
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From jane.shadforth at shell.com  Thu Nov  6 10:40:23 2008
From: jane.shadforth at shell.com (jane.shadforth at shell.com)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 16:40:23 +0100
Subject: [kj] Palin Hellspawn
In-Reply-To: <BD60B2A89D16094897629D4CCC50B1CB3A4835@ED01VN01.NCL-HIS.NHS.UK>
Message-ID: <31F32A0DB10C7E4FBE415287069AD46522DCC0@amsdc1-s-03341.europe.shell.com>

halleluyah!! Thanks Marc

-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Phillipps Marc
Sent: 06 November 2008 14:39
To: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk; A list about all things Killing Joke
(the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] Palin Hellspawn


>Don't you like my sense of tumour?

I am afraid not

You have been warned before, consider yourself banned now 


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From vassifer at earthlink.net  Thu Nov  6 10:54:04 2008
From: vassifer at earthlink.net (Alex Smith)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 10:54:04 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
Subject: [kj] Palin Hellspawn
Message-ID: <29458310.1225986845029.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>


Agreed. Also, it's becoming less about any semblance of "discussion" and more about disjointed antagonism for the sake of it. 

Alex in NYC



-----Original Message-----
>From: Rob's Arse <joker at Z6.com>
>Sent: Nov 6, 2008 9:49 AM
>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
>Subject: Re: [kj] Palin Hellspawn
>
>Thanks Marc.
>
>Spits and spats are always gonna happen, but I put this sort of thing in the same class as racism, somethinmg that just can't be tolerated.
>
>Cheers
>
>www.iamscuzzy.com www.myspace.com/scuzzywear
>
>--- Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk wrote:
>
>From: "Phillipps Marc" <Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk>
>To: <crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk>,	"A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)" <gathering at misera.net>
>Subject: Re: [kj] Palin Hellspawn
>Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 14:39:20 -0000
>
>>Don't you like my sense of tumour?
>
>I am afraid not
>
>You have been warned before, consider yourself banned now 
>
>
>Marc.
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From 65snoopy at gmail.com  Thu Nov  6 11:00:03 2008
From: 65snoopy at gmail.com (Neil Perry)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 17:00:03 +0100
Subject: [kj] OT - Last Shadow Puppets
In-Reply-To: <BD60B2A89D16094897629D4CCC50B1CB3A4831@ED01VN01.NCL-HIS.NHS.UK>
References: <5AD3143C248D1646A097487465F7702390D3DB@fountain6344ex2.corp.ad>
	<ebc0be740811060337k6013bafbq21facc0cbef1ec97@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <ebc0be740811060800r616295b4r77d50e317b8139f2@mail.gmail.com>

Sorry I have a prejudice right there - I've heard some other people
doing Jacques Brel (Tom Waits? Bowie? E Costello? Can't remember now) and I
fucking
hated it... do I *have* to?
Oh, alright then... (isn't there something else by Scott Walker
I can try instead?)



2008/11/6 Phillipps Marc <Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk>

>   ?       (I've never heard Scott Walker, so to me it was unique.)
>
>
>
> Shame on you!!
>
>
>
> Go out and grab ? Sings Jacques Brel now
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From:* gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
> *On Behalf Of *Neil Perry
> *Sent:* 06 November 2008 11:37
> *To:* A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
> *Subject:* Re: [kj] OT - Last Shadow Puppets
>
>
>
> I bought that CD the other day - very impressed also. Good to
> hear something totally unique - although all the reviews said its a homage
> to Scott Walker. (I've never heard Scott Walker, so to me it was unique.)
> Sort of 60s music for the 21st century, or something like that. Would like
> to see them do it live. I was initially sceptical as I am no fan of Arctic
> Monkeys, although he (Turner) has always given interesting interviews.
> And yes, can't believe he is still only 22 or whatever. Bastard.
> N
>
> 2008/11/6 Bill Meissner <BMeissner at encorehollywood.com>
>
>          Had a great day on Monday?.I was listening to Steve Jones radio
> show (Jonesy's Jukebox) while having my morning/afternoon coffee at a locale
> caf? here in Hollywood. Jonesy had Miles Kane and Alex Turner on the show
> because they were in town to play the last show as The Last Shadow Puppets
> at the Mayan Theater in downtown L.A. At the end of the show I ended up
> winning tickets to the show! I promptly called work and told them that I was
> taking half the day off to go to the show. What an incredible show!!!! I
> walked out of the show really feeling like I saw something unique and
> special. They had a full orchestra backing them up and everything. The sound
> was amazing ? Alex and Miles are truly talented musicians. Here in America
> we don't get this type of thing ? if American musicians their age tried to
> do this sort of thing ? it probably would come off as cheesy and nostalgic.
> This was very British ? which is wonderful ? and just totally impressed me ?
> no rock star ego bullshit. I can't believe those guys are like 21-22 years
> old ? Alex Turner was born to play music ? I hope he's around for a long
> time. Anyone else out there get to see them? I'm curious what you people in
> England think of this project?.
>
>      Anyway ? Just wanted to share my experience with you all ? I was
> completely blown away and again felt like I saw something special ?
> especially it being their last show. Miles goes back to The Rascals and Alex
> of course goes back to Arctic Monkeys who have been recording with Josh
> Homme from Queens of the Stoneage (can't wait to hear what comes from that
> collaboration?.)
>
>
>
>
>
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From 65snoopy at gmail.com  Thu Nov  6 11:07:31 2008
From: 65snoopy at gmail.com (Neil Perry)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 17:07:31 +0100
Subject: [kj] Palin Hellspawn
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Erm.. who the hell was that anyway?

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2008/11/6 Phillipps Marc <Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk>

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From Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk  Thu Nov  6 11:07:37 2008
From: Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk (Phillipps Marc)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 16:07:37 -0000
Subject: [kj] OT - Last Shadow Puppets
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>Oh, alright then... (isn't there something else by Scott Walker
>I can try instead?)

 

Climate of Hunter is good 

 

I have always been fond of Scott4 as well 

 

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Neil Perry
Sent: 06 November 2008 16:00
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OT - Last Shadow Puppets

 

Sorry I have a prejudice right there - I've heard some other people
doing Jacques Brel (Tom Waits? Bowie? E Costello? Can't remember now) and I fucking
hated it... do I *have* to?
Oh, alright then... (isn't there something else by Scott Walker
I can try instead?)




2008/11/6 Phillipps Marc <Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk>

*       (I've never heard Scott Walker, so to me it was unique.)

 

Shame on you!! 

 

Go out and grab - Sings Jacques Brel now 

 

 

 

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Neil Perry
Sent: 06 November 2008 11:37
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OT - Last Shadow Puppets

 

I bought that CD the other day - very impressed also. Good to
hear something totally unique - although all the reviews said its a homage
to Scott Walker. (I've never heard Scott Walker, so to me it was unique.)
Sort of 60s music for the 21st century, or something like that. Would like
to see them do it live. I was initially sceptical as I am no fan of Arctic
Monkeys, although he (Turner) has always given interesting interviews.
And yes, can't believe he is still only 22 or whatever. Bastard.
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2008/11/6 Bill Meissner <BMeissner at encorehollywood.com>

         Had a great day on Monday....I was listening to Steve Jones radio show (Jonesy's Jukebox) while having my morning/afternoon coffee at a locale caf? here in Hollywood. Jonesy had Miles Kane and Alex Turner on the show because they were in town to play the last show as The Last Shadow Puppets at the Mayan Theater in downtown L.A. At the end of the show I ended up winning tickets to the show! I promptly called work and told them that I was taking half the day off to go to the show. What an incredible show!!!! I walked out of the show really feeling like I saw something unique and special. They had a full orchestra backing them up and everything. The sound was amazing - Alex and Miles are truly talented musicians. Here in America we don't get this type of thing - if American musicians their age tried to do this sort of thing - it probably would come off as cheesy and nostalgic. This was very British - which is wonderful - and just totally impressed me - no rock star ego bullshit. I can't believe those guys are like 21-22 years old - Alex Turner was born to play music - I hope he's around for a long time. Anyone else out there get to see them? I'm curious what you people in England think of this project....

     Anyway - Just wanted to share my experience with you all - I was completely blown away and again felt like I saw something special - especially it being their last show. Miles goes back to The Rascals and Alex of course goes back to Arctic Monkeys who have been recording with Josh Homme from Queens of the Stoneage (can't wait to hear what comes from that collaboration....)

 

 

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From fatpotanga at gmail.com  Thu Nov  6 11:08:41 2008
From: fatpotanga at gmail.com (fatpotanga)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 16:08:41 +0000
Subject: [kj] OT - scott walker
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>  (isn't there something else by Scott Walker I can try instead?)


You could always try sitting?
He's about half way down.
He seems fun: http://www.ptb.de/en/org/6/utc2002/photos_lanl.htm

From fluwdot at earthlink.net  Thu Nov  6 11:13:31 2008
From: fluwdot at earthlink.net (fluw)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 11:13:31 -0500
Subject: [kj] oliver / fox election spin
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Palin was no doubt ill equipped for the position, but note this report you
linked came from Fox News who..

are attempting to spin the story of the election, by giving people on the
"right" a scapegoat - which will make it easier for them to stomach all the
jubilation elsewhere in the country. They would rather believe - or paint
the picture - that McCain's campaign lost the election, through bad
decisions and tactics (which certainly didn't help), instead of American's
voting for someone who they believe in.  

the right-wingers so badly want history to view Obama's election as a
mistake, a series of errors, and not social evolution, or however it may be
perceived on the left.  





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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of B. Oliver Sheppard
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 3:06 AM
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] Oliver...............

The specter of President Palin forced the hand.

It was just revealed she did not know Africa was even a continent. She 
thought it was a country. And John "My Fellow Prisoners" McCain is so 
old she could've become Pres. and had her hand on the nuke arsenal.


http://wonkette.com/404207/sarah-palin-thought-africa-was-a-country-not-a-co
ntinent      
<-- video there


Sorry, but no. Denied. Go back to your arctic circle, ma'am, the US 
state that has a lower population than many US cities.

-Oliver


fluke fluke wrote:
>  
>      Out of curiosity, why did you vote for Obama?

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From bq at soundgardener.co.nz  Thu Nov  6 11:39:31 2008
From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 05:39:31 +1300 (NZDT)
Subject: [kj] oliver / fox election spin
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I'm confused by the money behind the campaigns. I gather McCain decided to
go with public funding, which capped his campaign spend at $84M.

Was this because he had so badly fucked up his previous campaign despite
all the money he had, that he couldn't count on people forking out more?

Obama decided to go for the other form of funding, whatever that's called,
and ended up with over 3 times as much money.

Where was the majority of it from, corporations / institutions or
individuals?

Does it reflect more popular support for Obama in the public?

I would have expected McCain to have had a much bigger corporate backing
and potentially a lot more money at his disposal...

Confused.


> Palin was no doubt ill equipped for the position, but note this report you
> linked came from Fox News who..
>
> are attempting to spin the story of the election, by giving people on the
> "right" a scapegoat - which will make it easier for them to stomach all
> the
> jubilation elsewhere in the country. They would rather believe - or paint
> the picture - that McCain's campaign lost the election, through bad
> decisions and tactics (which certainly didn't help), instead of American's
> voting for someone who they believe in.
>
> the right-wingers so badly want history to view Obama's election as a
> mistake, a series of errors, and not social evolution, or however it may
> be
> perceived on the left.
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
> On
> Behalf Of B. Oliver Sheppard
> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 3:06 AM
> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
> Subject: Re: [kj] Oliver...............
>
> The specter of President Palin forced the hand.
>
> It was just revealed she did not know Africa was even a continent. She
> thought it was a country. And John "My Fellow Prisoners" McCain is so
> old she could've become Pres. and had her hand on the nuke arsenal.
>
>
> http://wonkette.com/404207/sarah-palin-thought-africa-was-a-country-not-a-co
> ntinent
> <-- video there
>
>
> Sorry, but no. Denied. Go back to your arctic circle, ma'am, the US
> state that has a lower population than many US cities.
>
> -Oliver
>
>
> fluke fluke wrote:
>>
>>      Out of curiosity, why did you vote for Obama?
>
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From folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com  Thu Nov  6 11:48:30 2008
From: folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com (folk devil)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 08:48:30 -0800
Subject: [kj] OT: Spontaneous eruption of mas singing, etc.,
 in NYC after midnight
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a blind faith, blind vision, kind of thing?
 
"talk about alternative fuels...not something that's going to be completely exhausted in 10 years."> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 02:02:35 -0600> From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: [kj] OT: Spontaneous eruption of mas singing, etc., in NYC after midnight> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrj_bc2Xy9s> > > Above, apontaneous celebration in NYC at 1:45 AM captured on home video > at Union Square. Haven't quite seen anything like it, the spontaneous > bursting into song, etc., in my lifetime. It doesn't have the ugly feel > of the Bush/Cheney/9-11 nationalism, but a strange new sort of resurgent > American nationalism I have never seen.> > I'm hopeful -- I feel like I can travel to other countries now without > having to pretend I'm Canadian! -- but am trying to soberly have no > illusions about what's to come.> > -Oliver> _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
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From folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com  Thu Nov  6 12:02:50 2008
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Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 09:02:50 -0800
Subject: [kj] OT - scott walker
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One dose of Jackie is fine, but I find Scott Walker, traumatic, distressful. I don't want to put myself through it again, please...bloody ab fab and Ivo.."> From: fatpotanga at gmail.com> To: gathering at misera.net> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 16:08:41 +0000> Subject: Re: [kj] OT - scott walker> > > (isn't there something else by Scott Walker I can try instead?)> > > You could always try sitting?> He's about half way down.> He seems fun: http://www.ptb.de/en/org/6/utc2002/photos_lanl.htm> _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
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From gregslawson at msn.com  Thu Nov  6 12:14:34 2008
From: gregslawson at msn.com (GREG SLAWSON)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 12:14:34 -0500
Subject: [kj] oliver / fox election spin
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Both candidates got lots of corporate funding, often from the same source--which makes sense, since both represent the interests of capitalists. Obama did get a lot more from individuals, since he was able to convince people that he'll actually do something to help them too (we'll see...)> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 05:39:31 +1300> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re: [kj] oliver / fox election spin> > I'm confused by the money behind the campaigns. I gather McCain decided to> go with public funding, which capped his campaign spend at $84M.> > Was this because he had so badly fucked up his previous campaign despite> all the money he had, that he couldn't count on people forking out more?> > Obama decided to go for the other form of funding, whatever that's called,> and ended up with over 3 times as much money.> > Where was the majority of it from, corporations / institutions or> individuals?> > Does it reflect more popular support for Obama in the public?> > I would have expected McCain to have had a much bigger corporate backing> and potentially a lot more money at his disposal...> > Confused.> > > > Palin was no doubt ill equipped for the position, but note this report you> > linked came from Fox News who..> >> > are attempting to spin the story of the election, by giving people on the> > "right" a scapegoat - which will make it easier for them to stomach all> > the> > jubilation elsewhere in the country. They would rather believe - or paint> > the picture - that McCain's campaign lost the election, through bad> > decisions and tactics (which certainly didn't help), instead of American's> > voting for someone who they believe in.> >> > the right-wingers so badly want history to view Obama's election as a> > mistake, a series of errors, and not social evolution, or however it may> > be> > perceived on the left.> >> >> >> >> >> > -----Original Message-----> > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]> > On> > Behalf Of B. Oliver Sheppard> > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 3:06 AM> > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)> > Subject: Re: [kj] Oliver...............> >> > The specter of President Palin forced the hand.> >> > It was just revealed she did not know Africa was even a continent. She> > thought it was a country. And John "My Fellow Prisoners" McCain is so> > old she could've become Pres. and had her hand on the nuke arsenal.> >> >> > http://wonkette.com/404207/sarah-palin-thought-africa-was-a-country-not-a-co> > ntinent> > <-- video there> >> >> > Sorry, but no. Denied. Go back to your arctic circle, ma'am, the US> > state that has a lower population than many US cities.> >> > -Oliver> >> >> > fluke fluke wrote:> >>> >> Out of curiosity, why did you vote for Obama?> >> > _______________________________________________> > Gathering mailing list> > Gathering at misera.net> > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering> >> > _______________________________________________> > Gathering mailing list> > Gathering at misera.net> > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering> >> > > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
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From bq at soundgardener.co.nz  Thu Nov  6 12:15:56 2008
From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 06:15:56 +1300 (NZDT)
Subject: [kj] oliver / fox election spin
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I read that Bush got either more or a higher proportion of funds from
private individuals in a previous campaign...

>
> Both candidates got lots of corporate funding, often from the same
> source--which makes sense, since both represent the interests of
> capitalists. Obama did get a lot more from individuals, since he was able
> to convince people that he'll actually do something to help them too
> (we'll see...)> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 05:39:31 +1300> From:
> bq at soundgardener.co.nz> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re: [kj] oliver
> / fox election spin> > I'm confused by the money behind the campaigns. I
> gather McCain decided to> go with public funding, which capped his
> campaign spend at $84M.> > Was this because he had so badly fucked up his
> previous campaign despite> all the money he had, that he couldn't count on
> people forking out more?> > Obama decided to go for the other form of
> funding, whatever that's called,> and ended up with over 3 times as much
> money.> > Where was the majority of it from, corporations / institutions
> or> individuals?> > Does it reflect more popular support for Obama in the
> public?> > I would have expected McCain to have had a much bigger
> corporate backing> and potentially a lot more money at his disposal...> >
> Confused.> > > > Palin was no doubt ill equipped for the position, but
> note this report you> > linked came from Fox News who..> >> > are
> attempting to spin the story of the election, by giving people on the> >
> "right" a scapegoat - which will make it easier for them to stomach all> >
> the> > jubilation elsewhere in the country. They would rather believe - or
> paint> > the picture - that McCain's campaign lost the election, through
> bad> > decisions and tactics (which certainly didn't help), instead of
> American's> > voting for someone who they believe in.> >> > the
> right-wingers so badly want history to view Obama's election as a> >
> mistake, a series of errors, and not social evolution, or however it may>
> > be> > perceived on the left.> >> >> >> >> >> > -----Original
> Message-----> > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]> > On> > Behalf Of B. Oliver
> Sheppard> > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 3:06 AM> > To: A list about
> all things Killing Joke (the band!)> > Subject: Re: [kj]
> Oliver...............> >> > The specter of President Palin forced the
> hand.> >> > It was just revealed she did not know Africa was even a
> continent. She> > thought it was a country. And John "My Fellow Prisoners"
> McCain is so> > old she could've become Pres. and had her hand on the nuke
> arsenal.> >> >> >
> http://wonkette.com/404207/sarah-palin-thought-africa-was-a-country-not-a-co>
> > ntinent> > <-- video there> >> >> > Sorry, but no. Denied. Go back to
> your arctic circle, ma'am, the US> > state that has a lower population
> than many US cities.> >> > -Oliver> >> >> > fluke fluke wrote:> >>> >> Out
> of curiosity, why did you vote for Obama?> >> >
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From saulomar1 at yahoo.com  Thu Nov  6 13:18:20 2008
From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com (sade1)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 10:18:20 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [kj] Palin Hellspawn
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Not cool, not cool at all.


... ... ... ... ... ... 

[looking at the current?state of things..]
?
'Save me...
? save me?from Tomorrow..
??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? 





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Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2008 5:50:52 AM
Subject: [kj] Palin Hellspawn

Have you seen her son Trig?

Looks like an inbred retard baby from Hell!

> From: B. Oliver Sheppard <bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [kj] Oliver...............
> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
> Date: Thursday, 6 November, 2008, 8:05 AM
> The specter of President Palin forced the hand.
> 
> It was just revealed she did not know Africa was even a
> continent. 


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From jelbod at hotmail.co.uk  Thu Nov  6 13:28:01 2008
From: jelbod at hotmail.co.uk (jerry bodkin)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 18:28:01 +0000
Subject: [kj] Jel...............
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 Yeah, i like it, more so at the time of its release, but it has moved down the list for me, obviously since they have done more and better work, but yeah, its still good.
 
 Jel.



From: fluke1 at live.co.ukTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 13:39:59 +0000Subject: Re: [kj] Jel...............

  http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=KE1HSI_IqP0    Do you like this song Jel ?I'm still waiting for it to grow on me   



From: jelbod at hotmail.co.ukTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 11:40:35 +0000Subject: Re: [kj] Oliver...............

  I'm so bored with the U. S. A!  Jel....erm....Killing Joke fan!



From: fluke1 at live.co.ukTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 11:00:01 +0000Subject: Re: [kj] Oliver...............

What I found a bit discerning about these elections was the lack of discussion about policies amongst the electorate .Maybe they were discussed in the U.S., but on World forums , Americans seems to be discussing trivial things , A Lady even said that she was going to vote for Obama because he had a nice smile WFT !!!! Did she think that if Obama smiles at the Trillion Dollar deficit....then it will reduce itself to a Billion Dollar deficit ?   Polices should be paramamount in Elections , but then again , can you trust what the Politicians say ? Obama said that he would spend more on public services  and the other bloke (Palins mate) said that he would cut taxes, both of these options are impracticable , with two wars going on, the recession just starting, the Trillion Dollar deficit , the only option is to raise taxes and to cut spending, neither of the Parties would have admitted this because it would have been a vote loser .  Obama faces a very difficult task, The U.S's position as the only World Superpower is at stake , China and Russia could surpass the U.S. if Obama doesnt get the U.S back on track .  The Billion Dollar deficit , to whom is the Billion Dollars owed to ? Arent the banks going broke ? If the banks called in the debts...wouldn't the Government be insolvent ? > Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 02:05:40 -0600> From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re: [kj] Oliver...............> > The specter of President Palin forced the hand.> > It was just revealed she did not know Africa was even a continent. She > thought it was a country. And John "My Fellow Prisoners" McCain is so > old she could've become Pres. and had her hand on the nuke arsenal.> > > http://wonkette.com/404207/sarah-palin-thought-africa-was-a-country-not-a-continent > <-- video there> > > Sorry, but no. Denied. Go back to your arctic circle, ma'am, the US > state that has a lower population than many US cities.> > -Oliver> > > fluke fluke wrote:> > > > Out of curiosity, why did you vote for Obama?> > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering



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From jelbod at hotmail.co.uk  Thu Nov  6 13:29:08 2008
From: jelbod at hotmail.co.uk (jerry bodkin)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 18:29:08 +0000
Subject: [kj] Original or cover......
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Thats a cover surely, sounds like but isnt Jaz and yeah, worms shit for guitar..lol.
 
 Jel



From: fluke1 at live.co.ukTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 15:10:24 +0000Subject: [kj] Original or cover......

 Is this Killing joke or a cover band ?       http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=tR7Jodf6URQ&feature=related



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From humanhybrid666 at gmail.com  Thu Nov  6 13:29:19 2008
From: humanhybrid666 at gmail.com (bongo)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 07:29:19 +1300
Subject: [kj] OT: Spontaneous eruption of mas singing, etc.,
	in NYC after midnight
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i think that that is fucking awesome, the fact that the ppl are YEARNING for
something good...
like all the protests about the war, (re: music vid BOOM by SOAD) the
american populace doesnt deserve the shit piled up on them from above.  i
really hope things do get better . . . . . . . . .



-- 


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From ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk  Thu Nov  6 13:31:17 2008
From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk (ade)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 18:31:17 -0000
Subject: [kj] Palin Hellspawn
Message-ID: <0118AC7F1197BD47A4D36379808A9DDC0722A7@mr-pants.the-lab.local>

Phew, rest in piss, Graham the Hobbit!

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Phillipps Marc
Sent: 06 November 2008 14:48
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] Palin Hellspawn



:o) 



Even I can have enough sometimes . . .




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Sent: 06 November 2008 14:43
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This and Obama in the same week? Ambassador you are spoiling us!

john-paul




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I am afraid not

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From bq at soundgardener.co.nz  Thu Nov  6 13:35:08 2008
From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 07:35:08 +1300 (NZDT)
Subject: [kj] Palin Hellspawn
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They HATES us Precious, hissssssssss!

> Phew, rest in piss, Graham the Hobbit!
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> :o)
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>
>
> Even I can have enough sometimes . . .
>
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>
>
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>
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> This and Obama in the same week? Ambassador you are spoiling us!
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From killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com  Thu Nov  6 13:38:27 2008
From: killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com (The Exorcist)
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 13:38:27 -0500
Subject: [kj] Palin Hellspawn
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Shall I say "Graham Crackers"? :)

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>This and Obama in the same week? Ambassador you are spoiling us!
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From pssyche23 at hotmail.com  Thu Nov  6 14:07:01 2008
From: pssyche23 at hotmail.com (Antoni Adamiak)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 19:07:01 +0000
Subject: [kj] Oliver...............
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Either way Peter, it's exciting times ... I can't help thinking how shattered a large part of the world population would have felt if the red party had sneaked back in ... I doubt either faction has any miraculous ideas to resolve the economic crisis but as important, if not so more, is that the USA's standing in the world can be restored after this dreadful 8 years ...  

From: fluke1 at live.co.ukTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 11:00:01 +0000Subject: Re: [kj] Oliver...............

What I found a bit discerning about these elections was the lack of discussion about policies amongst the electorate .Maybe they were discussed in the U.S., but on World forums , Americans seems to be discussing trivial things , A Lady even said that she was going to vote for Obama because he had a nice smile WFT !!!! Did she think that if Obama smiles at the Trillion Dollar deficit....then it will reduce itself to a Billion Dollar deficit ?   Polices should be paramamount in Elections , but then again , can you trust what the Politicians say ? Obama said that he would spend more on public services  and the other bloke (Palins mate) said that he would cut taxes, both of these options are impracticable , with two wars going on, the recession just starting, the Trillion Dollar deficit , the only option is to raise taxes and to cut spending, neither of the Parties would have admitted this because it would have been a vote loser .  Obama faces a very difficult task, The U.S's position as the only World Superpower is at stake , China and Russia could surpass the U.S. if Obama doesnt get the U.S back on track .  The Billion Dollar deficit , to whom is the Billion Dollars owed to ? Arent the banks going broke ? If the banks called in the debts...wouldn't the Government be insolvent ? > Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 02:05:40 -0600> From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re: [kj] Oliver...............> > The specter of President Palin forced the hand.> > It was just revealed she did not know Africa was even a continent. She > thought it was a country. And John "My Fellow Prisoners" McCain is so > old she could've become Pres. and had her hand on the nuke arsenal.> > > http://wonkette.com/404207/sarah-palin-thought-africa-was-a-country-not-a-continent > <-- video there> > > Sorry, but no. Denied. Go back to your arctic circle, ma'am, the US > state that has a lower population than many US cities.> > -Oliver> > > fluke fluke wrote:> > > > Out of curiosity, why did you vote for Obama?> > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering

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From bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net  Thu Nov  6 14:22:15 2008
From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net (B. Oliver Sheppard)
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 13:22:15 -0600
Subject: [kj] oliver / fox election spin
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McCain aides themselves are the first who started blaming Palin, before 
the election had been cast.

The McCain aides responsible for saying things to the press like, "Sarah 
Palin is a diva," etc., were ex-aides of the Romney campaign, mostly. 
They did not want, post-election, Palin to be the new leader of the 
party; they wanted Mitt Romney to be at that helm.

Speaking of policies, they were actually discussed, like McCain's 
ridiculous $5,000 tax credit to individuals so they could privately buy 
health care on the private market.  That $5,000 credit would be treated 
as taxable income by the government and would give incentive for 
employers to drop employees' coverage, since now the govt was giving 
them a tax credit to go of and buy their own. It is one of the stupidest 
policy proposals I have ever seen, and McCain deserved to lose on that 
one, too.

-Oliver


fluw wrote:
> Palin was no doubt ill equipped for the position, but note this report you
> linked came from Fox News who..
>
> are attempting to spin the story of the election, by giving people on the
> "right" a scapegoat - 
>
>   


From bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net  Thu Nov  6 14:45:16 2008
From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net (B. Oliver Sheppard)
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 13:45:16 -0600
Subject: [kj] oliver / fox election spin
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http://www.comedycentral.com/videos/index.jhtml?videoId=209408


Jon Stewart clip w/ anchor of FOX New Chris Wallace; Daily Show plays 
montage of FOX election snippets in the clip above...

-Oliver

From folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com  Thu Nov  6 14:51:53 2008
From: folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com (folk devil)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 11:51:53 -0800
Subject: [kj] (OT) FW: [idm] call to participate: free compilation
 celebrating Obama victory
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pff.."."> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 14:44:23 -0500> From: experimedia at gmail.com> To: idm at hyperreal.org> Subject: [idm] call to participate: free compilation celebrating Obama victory> > Experimedia invites artists to submit sound pieces to a free netlabel> compilation celebrating the election of Barack Obama. All pieces> considered for the compilation should be comprised of the voice of> Obama and crowds from any of his speeches (a theme of positivity of> course). Will get more organized details later after I catch up on> some work I put aside while volunteering. Send links to submissions> (mp3 320kb format for now) to info at experimedia.net with subject 'YES> WE CAN'.> > Considering the theme we want this to remain a free digital release> rather than a physical release and we dont want an 80 minute time> restriction so many can participate.> > Submission deadline will be December 20th. Release date will be> Inauguration Day January 20th 2009.> > We are also considering looking into a charitable organization to> invite downloaders of the comp to contribute directly to.> > Here are some sound sources appropriate for this project including> speeches given by Obama at the Democratic National Conventions in 2004> and 2008. His now famous "A More Perfect Union" speech and his> "Victory Speech". There also various field recordings from victory> walks in NY, Chicago, and Seattle so far. Will add more recordings as> I acquire them.> http://projects.experimedia.net/obama> > -- > Jeremy Bible> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------> Experimedia - record label + mailorder shop + a/v arts (est.2000)> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------> experimedia.net> jeremybible.com> jbjh.experimedia.net> myspace.com/experimedia> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------> The Experimedia online shop is now carrying releases from:> 12k/line|Room40|Dragon's Eye|Non Visual Objects|Audiobulb> Spekk|and/OAR|Gears of Sand|*Nexsound|*1000f?ssler> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe at hyperreal.org> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help at hyperreal.org> 
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From bq at soundgardener.co.nz  Thu Nov  6 14:54:05 2008
From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz (Brendan)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 08:54:05 +1300 (NZDT)
Subject: [kj] oliver / fox election spin
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So what exactly is up with your healthcare system, why do you pay so much
over there and still get so little for your dollar?

> McCain aides themselves are the first who started blaming Palin, before
> the election had been cast.
>
> The McCain aides responsible for saying things to the press like, "Sarah
> Palin is a diva," etc., were ex-aides of the Romney campaign, mostly.
> They did not want, post-election, Palin to be the new leader of the
> party; they wanted Mitt Romney to be at that helm.
>
> Speaking of policies, they were actually discussed, like McCain's
> ridiculous $5,000 tax credit to individuals so they could privately buy
> health care on the private market.  That $5,000 credit would be treated
> as taxable income by the government and would give incentive for
> employers to drop employees' coverage, since now the govt was giving
> them a tax credit to go of and buy their own. It is one of the stupidest
> policy proposals I have ever seen, and McCain deserved to lose on that
> one, too.
>
> -Oliver
>
>
> fluw wrote:
>> Palin was no doubt ill equipped for the position, but note this report
>> you
>> linked came from Fox News who..
>>
>> are attempting to spin the story of the election, by giving people on
>> the
>> "right" a scapegoat -
>>
>>
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From bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net  Thu Nov  6 15:06:18 2008
From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net (B. Oliver Sheppard)
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 14:06:18 -0600
Subject: [kj] oliver / fox election spin
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You're asking me?

For the same reason you had a solid chunk of the GOP base stubbornly 
believing Obama was a "SOCIALIST!" because he merely wanted to go back 
to the Clinton tax rates. "Socialism" is such a bad smear word in the 
US, a frightful bogeyman, and  in popular discourse it's lost any real 
meaning. It technically means "government (or public) ownership of the 
means of production." But to like maybe 1/4 of the US population it just 
means "taxes I don't like to pay," which is stupid.

This 1 hour program, _Frontline: Sick Around the World_, is the best 
comparison I have seen between the health care systems of the US, 
England, Germany, Taiwan, Japan, and Switzerland. It shws how other 
countries can do it and the US cannot. (Better than "Sicko.") The makers 
of the documentary went out of their way to contrast the US to 
_capitalist democracies_:


http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/sickaroundtheworld/


And, yes, 14% of our GDP goes to heathcare, compared to the average of 
8% of countries in the West who have universal health care, and we get 
far worse outcomes, including almost 50 million lacking health care. 
Japan spends 7% of its GDP and has the lngest lifespan, lower infant 
mortality, and everyone is covered somehow.

It makes no sense. But the private insurance lobby in the US would not 
have it any other way.

-Oliver



Brendan wrote:
> So what exactly is up with your healthcare system, why do you pay so much
> over there and still get so little for your dollar?
>
>   
>   


From folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com  Thu Nov  6 15:10:42 2008
From: folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com (folk devil)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 12:10:42 -0800
Subject: [kj] oliver / fox election spin
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A considerable amount of Americans believe Socialism is Communism :/"> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 14:06:18 -0600> From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re: [kj] oliver / fox election spin> > You're asking me?> > For the same reason you had a solid chunk of the GOP base stubbornly > believing Obama was a "SOCIALIST!" because he merely wanted to go back > to the Clinton tax rates. "Socialism" is such a bad smear word in the > US, a frightful bogeyman, and in popular discourse it's lost any real > meaning. It technically means "government (or public) ownership of the > means of production." But to like maybe 1/4 of the US population it just > means "taxes I don't like to pay," which is stupid.> > This 1 hour program, _Frontline: Sick Around the World_, is the best > comparison I have seen between the health care systems of the US, > England, Germany, Taiwan, Japan, and Switzerland. It shws how other > countries can do it and the US cannot. (Better than "Sicko.") The makers > of the documentary went out of their way to contrast the US to > _capitalist democracies_:> > > http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/sickaroundtheworld/> > > And, yes, 14% of our GDP goes to heathcare, compared to the average of > 8% of countries in the West who have universal health care, and we get > far worse outcomes, including almost 50 million lacking health care. > Japan spends 7% of its GDP and has the lngest lifespan, lower infant > mortality, and everyone is covered somehow.> > It makes no sense. But the private insurance lobby in the US would not > have it any other way.> > -Oliver> > > > Brendan wrote:> > So what exactly is up with your healthcare system, why do you pay so much> > over there and still get so little for your dollar?> >> > > > > > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
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From: LONESTYLE at aol.com (LONESTYLE at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 15:12:37 EST
Subject: [kj] Oliver...............
Message-ID: <c39.456b096b.3644a9b5@aol.com>

 
Why would you even care who Oliver voted for and why???
 
Why do American politics mean so much to you when you don't even live in  the 
states? 
 
Attacking Oliver is a bit out of line. If he voted for McCan't I would not  
care. After all we are all human, and that doesn't change me liking him or not. 
 
You know it is all mess with the banks and houses, etc., and we all know  
that, but the man was the better choice and has his head on  straighter than 
McCain! McCain talks old... About Reagan and what not. Most  of the generation who 
born in the 80's did not live through that bullshit! And  after all the Bush 
leftovers Obama does have a big challenge as any other  President would coming 
into public office for the first time.
 
~LB
 
In a message dated 11/6/2008 3:00:13 AM Pacific Standard Time,  
fluke1 at live.co.uk writes:

What I found a bit discerning about these  elections was the lack of 
discussion about policies amongst the  electorate .
Maybe they were  discussed in the U.S., but on World forums , Americans seems 
to be  discussing trivial things , A Lady even said that she was going to 
vote for  Obama because he had a nice smile WFT !!!! Did she think that if Obama 
smiles  at the Trillion Dollar deficit....then it will reduce itself to a 
Billion  Dollar deficit ?
Polices should be paramamount in Elections , but then again , can you trust  
what the Politicians say ? Obama said that he would spend more on public  
services  and the other bloke (Palins mate) said that he would cut taxes,  both of 
these options are impracticable , with two wars going on, the  recession just 
starting, the Trillion Dollar deficit , the only option is to  raise taxes 
and to cut spending, neither of the Parties would have admitted  this because it 
would have been a vote loser .
Obama faces a very difficult task, The  U.S's position as the only World 
Superpower is at stake , China and Russia  could surpass the U.S. if Obama doesnt 
get the U.S back on track  .
The Billion Dollar  deficit , to whom is the Billion Dollars owed to ? Arent 
the banks going broke  ? If the banks called in the debts...wouldn't the 
Government be insolvent  ?



>  Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 02:05:40 -0600
> From:  bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net
> To: gathering at misera.net
> Subject:  Re: [kj] Oliver...............
> 
> The specter of President Palin  forced the hand.
> 
> It was just revealed she did not know Africa  was even a continent. She 
> thought it was a country. And John "My  Fellow Prisoners" McCain is so 
> old she could've become Pres. and had  her hand on the nuke arsenal.
> 
> 
>  
http://wonkette.com/404207/sarah-palin-thought-africa-was-a-country-not-a-continent  
> <-- video there
> 
> 
> Sorry, but no. Denied.  Go back to your arctic circle, ma'am, the US 
> state that has a lower  population than many US cities.
> 
> -Oliver
> 
>  
> fluke fluke wrote:
> > 
> > Out of curiosity, why  did you vote for Obama?
> 
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From bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net  Thu Nov  6 15:14:24 2008
From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net (B. Oliver Sheppard)
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 14:14:24 -0600
Subject: [kj] oliver / fox election spin
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The terms have lost so much meaning because they've been dragged through 
the mud. Never expect any sensible discussion about socialism, or the 
era of society that was/is supposed to follow it, the classless and 
stateless society called communism, with any American. They are deeply 
indoctrinate by the culture and the media here in the US to shut down 
mentally when either the words "socialism or "communism" come up.

The same has also become true now for "Islam" or "Muslim," the religion 
of about 1/4 of the planet. Americans generally cannot discuss these 
things rationally. Seriously, minds just shut down and you might as well 
be speaking a foreign language to them at that point. There is hope that 
with Obama maybe the US will not be as mind-blowingly stupid as it has 
been...

-Oliver

folk devil wrote:
> A considerable amount of Americans believe Socialism is Communism :/


From LONESTYLE at aol.com  Thu Nov  6 15:18:47 2008
From: LONESTYLE at aol.com (LONESTYLE at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 15:18:47 EST
Subject: [kj] Oliver...............
Message-ID: <cd6.3e514ac8.3644ab27@aol.com>

 
Exactly!
 
~LB
 
In a message dated 11/6/2008 11:07:55 AM Pacific Standard Time,  
pssyche23 at hotmail.com writes:


Either way Peter, it's exciting times ... I can't help thinking how  
shattered a large part of the world population would have felt if the red  party had 
sneaked back in ... I doubt either faction has any miraculous ideas  to resolve 
the economic crisis but as important, if not so more, is that  the USA's 
standing in the world can be restored after this  dreadful 8 years ...  

 
____________________________________
From: fluke1 at live.co.uk
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008  11:00:01 +0000
Subject: Re: [kj] Oliver...............

What I found a bit discerning about these  elections was the lack of 
discussion about policies amongst the  electorate .
Maybe they were  discussed in the U.S., but on World forums , Americans seems 
to be  discussing trivial things , A Lady even said that she was going to 
vote for  Obama because he had a nice smile WFT !!!! Did she think that if Obama 
smiles  at the Trillion Dollar deficit....then it will reduce itself to a 
Billion  Dollar deficit ?
Polices should be paramamount in Elections , but then again , can you trust  
what the Politicians say ? Obama said that he would spend more on public  
services  and the other bloke (Palins mate) said that he would cut taxes,  both of 
these options are impracticable , with two wars going on, the  recession just 
starting, the Trillion Dollar deficit , the only option is to  raise taxes 
and to cut spending, neither of the Parties would have admitted  this because it 
would have been a vote loser .
Obama faces a very difficult task, The  U.S's position as the only World 
Superpower is at stake , China and Russia  could surpass the U.S. if Obama doesnt 
get the U.S back on track  .
The Billion Dollar  deficit , to whom is the Billion Dollars owed to ? Arent 
the banks going broke  ? If the banks called in the debts...wouldn't the 
Government be insolvent  ?



>  Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 02:05:40 -0600
> From:  bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net
> To: gathering at misera.net
> Subject:  Re: [kj] Oliver...............
> 
> The specter of President Palin  forced the hand.
> 
> It was just revealed she did not know Africa  was even a continent. She 
> thought it was a country. And John "My  Fellow Prisoners" McCain is so 
> old she could've become Pres. and had  her hand on the nuke arsenal.
> 
> 
>  
http://wonkette.com/404207/sarah-palin-thought-africa-was-a-country-not-a-continent  
> <-- video there
> 
> 
> Sorry, but no. Denied.  Go back to your arctic circle, ma'am, the US 
> state that has a lower  population than many US cities.
> 
> -Oliver
> 
>  
> fluke fluke wrote:
> > 
> > Out of curiosity, why  did you vote for Obama?
> 
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From bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net  Thu Nov  6 15:16:46 2008
From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net (B. Oliver Sheppard)
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 14:16:46 -0600
Subject: [kj] Oliver...............
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How the US votes is important to the rest of the world because we have 
at least 22 bases on far flung corners of the planet and our globa 
dominance is such that our foreign policy disproportionately impacts in 
distant countries in ways most Americans don't get.

Also, the word  is increasingly becoming a monoform culture, greatly led 
by American cultural, aesthetic, commercial, etc., designs and models. 
There was that "global electorate map" that was only half a joke that 
showed all countries blue for Obama with the US "undecided" between 
McCain and Obama (this was before the election).

-Oliver

LONESTYLE at aol.com wrote:
>
>  
> Why do American politics mean so much to you when you don't even live 
> in the states?
>  


From gregslawson at msn.com  Thu Nov  6 15:21:36 2008
From: gregslawson at msn.com (GREG SLAWSON)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 15:21:36 -0500
Subject: [kj] oliver / fox election spin
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My party (progressive labor party) defines socialism as 2 types:
What occured in the USSR and China until a few decades ago (and then turned into state-controlled capitalism
and now free-market capitalism); there is also "Euro-socialism" which is a mixture of free-market state control of some areas like health care, as in countries like France, Sweeden, and even Israel, etc. Idiot Americans are too stupid to realize that we even have some of the latter--for example, schools are mostly socialized in the US; the post office is completely so.
We define communism as:
An economic/social/political system which has NEVER existed in ANY country, developed (but not completely understood) by Marx, where the laboring class (including "professionals") control all production, where all commodities/services are produced for use, not sale, and where distribution is done based on need, not ability to pay, and where no material/social privelege is allowed, and where decisions are reached by full and voluntary discussion/participation and then collective consensus (not voting, the lowest and least participatory form of participation). 



From: folkdevil_23 at hotmail.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 12:10:42 -0800Subject: Re: [kj] oliver / fox election spin

A considerable amount of Americans believe Socialism is Communism :/"> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 14:06:18 -0600> From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re: [kj] oliver / fox election spin> > You're asking me?> > For the same reason you had a solid chunk of the GOP base stubbornly > believing Obama was a "SOCIALIST!" because he merely wanted to go back > to the Clinton tax rates. "Socialism" is such a bad smear word in the > US, a frightful bogeyman, and in popular discourse it's lost any real > meaning. It technically means "government (or public) ownership of the > means of production." But to like maybe 1/4 of the US population it just > means "taxes I don't like to pay," which is stupid.> > This 1 hour program, _Frontline: Sick Around the World_, is the best > comparison I have seen between the health care systems of the US, > England, Germany, Taiwan, Japan, and Switzerland. It shws how other > countries can do it and the US cannot. (Better than "Sicko.") The makers > of the documentary went out of their way to contrast the US to > _capitalist democracies_:> > > http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/sickaroundtheworld/> > > And, yes, 14% of our GDP goes to heathcare, compared to the average of > 8% of countries in the West who have universal health care, and we get > far worse outcomes, including almost 50 million lacking health care. > Japan spends 7% of its GDP and has the lngest lifespan, lower infant > mortality, and everyone is covered somehow.> > It makes no sense. But the private insurance lobby in the US would not > have it any other way.> > -Oliver> > > > Brendan wrote:> > So what exactly is up with your healthcare system, why do you pay so much> > over there and still get so little for your dollar?> >> > > > > > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering



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From karen.weil at sddt.com  Thu Nov  6 15:32:16 2008
From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 12:32:16 -0800
Subject: [kj] Oliver...............
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Huzzah! Huzzah! : )

k.w.
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  Exactly!

  ~LB

  In a message dated 11/6/2008 11:07:55 AM Pacific Standard Time, pssyche23 at hotmail.com writes:

    Either way Peter, it's exciting times ... I can't help thinking how shattered a large part of the world population would have felt if the red party had sneaked back in ... I doubt either faction has any miraculous ideas to resolve the economic crisis but as important, if not so more, is that the USA's standing in the world can be restored after this dreadful 8 years ...  


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    From: fluke1 at live.co.uk
    To: gathering at misera.net
    Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 11:00:01 +0000
    Subject: Re: [kj] Oliver...............

    What I found a bit discerning about these elections was the lack of discussion about policies amongst the electorate .
    Maybe they were discussed in the U.S., but on World forums , Americans seems to be discussing trivial things , A Lady even said that she was going to vote for Obama because he had a nice smile WFT !!!! Did she think that if Obama smiles at the Trillion Dollar deficit....then it will reduce itself to a Billion Dollar deficit ?
       Polices should be paramamount in Elections , but then again , can you trust what the Politicians say ? Obama said that he would spend more on public services  and the other bloke (Palins mate) said that he would cut taxes, both of these options are impracticable , with two wars going on, the recession just starting, the Trillion Dollar deficit , the only option is to raise taxes and to cut spending, neither of the Parties would have admitted this because it would have been a vote loser .
      Obama faces a very difficult task, The U.S's position as the only World Superpower is at stake , China and Russia could surpass the U.S. if Obama doesnt get the U.S back on track .
      The Billion Dollar deficit , to whom is the Billion Dollars owed to ? Arent the banks going broke ? If the banks called in the debts...wouldn't the Government be insolvent ?
     


    > Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 02:05:40 -0600
    > From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net
    > To: gathering at misera.net
    > Subject: Re: [kj] Oliver...............
    > 
    > The specter of President Palin forced the hand.
    > 
    > It was just revealed she did not know Africa was even a continent. She 
    > thought it was a country. And John "My Fellow Prisoners" McCain is so 
    > old she could've become Pres. and had her hand on the nuke arsenal.
    > 
    > 
    > http://wonkette.com/404207/sarah-palin-thought-africa-was-a-country-not-a-continent 
    > <-- video there
    > 
    > 
    > Sorry, but no. Denied. Go back to your arctic circle, ma'am, the US 
    > state that has a lower population than many US cities.
    > 
    > -Oliver
    > 
    > 
    > fluke fluke wrote:
    > > 
    > > Out of curiosity, why did you vote for Obama?
    > 
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From bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net  Thu Nov  6 15:30:45 2008
From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net (B. Oliver Sheppard)
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 14:30:45 -0600
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My understanding of socialism is this:

1. Government ownership of the means of production.

If a society has a democratic government, then the government control of 
the means of production means poular, democratic control of the means of 
production. If he society is totalitarian (like North Korea), the 
government ownership is very "centrally planed economy"-style and thus 
not democratic.

A democratic economy, where those who live n the country actually 
control it, and make it for them, instead of a privileged few at the 
top, has been the long standing goal of the progressive left as I 
understand it. You can also have a stateless society where the means of 
production and economy are run through workers' unions, community 
organizations, and other popular associations.

In the media and in common, casual parlance, the Eastern Bloc and 
countries like Cuba, China, etc., are called "communist," when 
technically they are not A lot of this is due to these countries' 
totalitaian governments cynically calling themselves "communist" because 
communism was a popular idea among the people, so, hey, call yourself a 
communist, get popular support, whether you were or are a communist or not.

North Korea also calls itself a Republic, like the US does. But does 
anyone believe they really are a republic? No. But do people really 
believe they are communist (when they are not)? Yes. Why? Ideological 
reasons, because communism must be associated with all that evil and 
wrong, and democracy al that is good. So even though the Union of Soviet 
Socialist REPUBLICS claimed just as much to be republican like the US, 
US ideologues simply ignored that word and focused laserlike on their 
claim to be socialist, preferring to associate that with 
totalitarianism. The Nazis also claimed to be socialist. It was a 
popular thing to claim to be, to get support, whether one was socialist 
or not.

-Oliver


GREG SLAWSON wrote:
> My party (progressive labor party) defines socialism as 2 types:
>


From fluke1 at live.co.uk  Thu Nov  6 15:32:28 2008
From: fluke1 at live.co.uk (fluke fluke)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 20:32:28 +0000
Subject: [kj] Oliver...............
In-Reply-To: <c39.456b096b.3644a9b5@aol.com>
References: <c39.456b096b.3644a9b5@aol.com>
Message-ID: <BLU108-W43B5BAF3FFEE722BA8E9B3BE1E0@phx.gbl>


 
Oliver previously stated whom he voted for and I was wondering as to why he made his choice.
American Politics mean a lot to me, because if your President decides to invade another Country , it is my Country which will have to cover your asses . Whilst your boys are out there shooting everything that moves, my boys are out there apologising for your boys behavior
  I didn't attack Oliver at all , I just asked him his reasons for voting for his choice , there really was no attack at all . I dont like Oliver anyway , so I wont be disliking him just because of whom he votes for .
  I have not heard Mccain's manifesto and neither have I heard Obamas Manifesto , I do not know what their policies are , so I cannot judge a person by whom he votes for . 
  I just asked Oliver why he voted for Obama .
If I has assurances that Obama wouldn't impose Sharia law and if I had assurances that Obama wouldn't legalise drive by shootings.......then I'd probably have voted for him as well.......if I was a U.S citizen, that is. 
 
 



From: LONESTYLE at aol.comDate: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 15:12:37 -0500To: gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] Oliver...............

Why would you even care who Oliver voted for and why???
 
Why do American politics mean so much to you when you don't even live in the states? 
 
Attacking Oliver is a bit out of line. If he voted for McCan't I would not care. After all we are all human, and that doesn't change me liking him or not. 
 
You know it is all mess with the banks and houses, etc., and we all know that, but the man was the better choice and has his head on straighter than McCain! McCain talks old... About Reagan and what not. Most of the generation who born in the 80's did not live through that bullshit! And after all the Bush leftovers Obama does have a big challenge as any other President would coming into public office for the first time.
 
~LB
 
In a message dated 11/6/2008 3:00:13 AM Pacific Standard Time, fluke1 at live.co.uk writes:
What I found a bit discerning about these elections was the lack of discussion about policies amongst the electorate .Maybe they were discussed in the U.S., but on World forums , Americans seems to be discussing trivial things , A Lady even said that she was going to vote for Obama because he had a nice smile WFT !!!! Did she think that if Obama smiles at the Trillion Dollar deficit....then it will reduce itself to a Billion Dollar deficit ?   Polices should be paramamount in Elections , but then again , can you trust what the Politicians say ? Obama said that he would spend more on public services  and the other bloke (Palins mate) said that he would cut taxes, both of these options are impracticable , with two wars going on, the recession just starting, the Trillion Dollar deficit , the only option is to raise taxes and to cut spending, neither of the Parties would have admitted this because it would have been a vote loser .  Obama faces a very difficult task, The U.S's position as the only World Superpower is at stake , China and Russia could surpass the U.S. if Obama doesnt get the U.S back on track .  The Billion Dollar deficit , to whom is the Billion Dollars owed to ? Arent the banks going broke ? If the banks called in the debts...wouldn't the Government be insolvent ? > Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 02:05:40 -0600> From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re: [kj] Oliver...............> > The specter of President Palin forced the hand.> > It was just revealed she did not know Africa was even a continent. She > thought it was a country. And John "My Fellow Prisoners" McCain is so > old she could've become Pres. and had her hand on the nuke arsenal.> > > http://wonkette.com/404207/sarah-palin-thought-africa-was-a-country-not-a-continent > <-- video there> > > Sorry, but no. Denied. Go back to your arctic circle, ma'am, the US > state that has a lower population than many US cities.> > -Oliver> > > fluke fluke wrote:> > > > Out of curiosity, why did you vote for Obama?> > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering

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From karen.weil at sddt.com  Thu Nov  6 15:34:32 2008
From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 12:34:32 -0800
Subject: [kj] Palin Hellspawn
References: <958915.88816.qm@web23208.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <0ECC3C75E02247B6B4CF775E1370B6CE@edweil>

OK. That's not cool. Palin's horrible, and I'm relieved we don't have to 
endure her in the White House -- but leave her kids out of it, please.

k.w.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Palin's Political Death Rattle" <crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk>
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
<gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 5:50 AM
Subject: [kj] Palin Hellspawn


> Have you seen her son Trig?
>
> Looks like an inbred retard baby from Hell!
>
>> From: B. Oliver Sheppard <bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net>
>> Subject: Re: [kj] Oliver...............
>> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
>> <gathering at misera.net>
>> Date: Thursday, 6 November, 2008, 8:05 AM
>> The specter of President Palin forced the hand.
>>
>> It was just revealed she did not know Africa was even a
>> continent.
>
>
>
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From elana_mojica at yahoo.com  Thu Nov  6 15:37:05 2008
From: elana_mojica at yahoo.com (Elana Mojica)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 12:37:05 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [kj] Palin Hellspawn
References: <958915.88816.qm@web23208.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
	<0ECC3C75E02247B6B4CF775E1370B6CE@edweil>
Message-ID: <822674.64767.qm@web57307.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

You know if you respond to him he'll just keep going

ignore it and maybe it will go away >.<  unlikely but just delete delete delete :)




________________________________
From: Karen Weil <karen.weil at sddt.com>
To: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2008 2:34:32 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] Palin Hellspawn

OK. That's not cool. Palin's horrible, and I'm relieved we don't have to endure her in the White House -- but leave her kids out of it, please.

k.w.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Palin's Political Death Rattle" <crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk>
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 5:50 AM
Subject: [kj] Palin Hellspawn


> Have you seen her son Trig?
> 
> Looks like an inbred retard baby from Hell!
> 
>> From: B. Oliver Sheppard <bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net>
>> Subject: Re: [kj] Oliver...............
>> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
>> Date: Thursday, 6 November, 2008, 8:05 AM
>> The specter of President Palin forced the hand.
>> 
>> It was just revealed she did not know Africa was even a
>> continent.
> 
> 
> 
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From bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net  Thu Nov  6 15:39:57 2008
From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net (B. Oliver Sheppard)
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 14:39:57 -0600
Subject: [kj] Oliver...............
In-Reply-To: <BLU108-W43B5BAF3FFEE722BA8E9B3BE1E0@phx.gbl>
References: <c39.456b096b.3644a9b5@aol.com>
	<BLU108-W43B5BAF3FFEE722BA8E9B3BE1E0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4913561D.8080600@sbcglobal.net>

Haha ... I love you too, fluke fluke!  :)


-Oliver



fluke fluke wrote:
>   I dont like Oliver anyway , so I wont be disliking him just because 
> of whom he votes for .


From bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net  Thu Nov  6 15:45:57 2008
From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net (B. Oliver Sheppard)
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 14:45:57 -0600
Subject: [kj] Palin Hellspawn
In-Reply-To: <0ECC3C75E02247B6B4CF775E1370B6CE@edweil>
References: <958915.88816.qm@web23208.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
	<0ECC3C75E02247B6B4CF775E1370B6CE@edweil>
Message-ID: <49135785.1030308@sbcglobal.net>

I think Palin's kids' names should still be fair game, though: Bristol, 
Piper, Trig, Willow, and Track? Good grief, what a horribe assortment of 
names...

-Oliver



Karen Weil wrote:
> OK. That's not cool. Palin's horrible, and I'm relieved we don't have 
> to endure her in the White House -- but leave her kids out of it, please.
>
> k.w.
>


From woody2shooz at gmail.com  Thu Nov  6 15:50:38 2008
From: woody2shooz at gmail.com (woody2shooz)
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 20:50:38 +0000
Subject: [kj] OT: more cowbell!
In-Reply-To: <891493.58251.qm@web28608.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
References: <891493.58251.qm@web28608.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4913589E.9080608@gmail.com>

never bored, might like you

anyway, chrimbly gatherings, 20th December. I'm game. Rob Horan has 
confirmed for a bar in <ahem> queens<ahem>land

I was thinking London

Alexandra Tolksdorf wrote:
> If you're bored, like me, you might find this amusing...
>  
> http://www.morecowbell.dj/
>
> /*~Alexandra.*/
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From elana_mojica at yahoo.com  Thu Nov  6 15:51:31 2008
From: elana_mojica at yahoo.com (Elana Mojica)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 12:51:31 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [kj] Palin Hellspawn
References: <958915.88816.qm@web23208.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
	<0ECC3C75E02247B6B4CF775E1370B6CE@edweil>
	<49135785.1030308@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <145234.86701.qm@web57305.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

crack kills!




________________________________
From: B. Oliver Sheppard <bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2008 2:45:57 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] Palin Hellspawn

I think Palin's kids' names should still be fair game, though: Bristol, Piper, Trig, Willow, and Track? Good grief, what a horribe assortment of names...

-Oliver



Karen Weil wrote:
> OK. That's not cool. Palin's horrible, and I'm relieved we don't have to endure her in the White House -- but leave her kids out of it, please.
> 
> k.w.
> 

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From vassifer at earthlink.net  Thu Nov  6 16:16:05 2008
From: vassifer at earthlink.net (Alex Smith)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 16:16:05 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [kj] oliver / fox election spin
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From vassifer at earthlink.net  Thu Nov  6 16:47:42 2008
From: vassifer at earthlink.net (Alex Smith)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 16:47:42 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [kj] Palin Hellspawn
Message-ID: <33005982.1226008063198.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>


There was a story that was making the rounds back in August that I only heard this week. Evidently, one of little Trig's middle names (he has a few) is "Van". Supposedly -- and I'm being serious -- Sarah and her snowmobiling husband gave him that in tribute to Van Halen (say it out loud).

Stranger than fiction?

Alex in NYC



-----Original Message-----
>From: "B. Oliver Sheppard" <bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net>
>Sent: Nov 6, 2008 3:45 PM
>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
>Subject: Re: [kj] Palin Hellspawn
>
>I think Palin's kids' names should still be fair game, though: Bristol, 
>Piper, Trig, Willow, and Track? Good grief, what a horribe assortment of 
>names...
>
>-Oliver
>
>
>
>Karen Weil wrote:
>> OK. That's not cool. Palin's horrible, and I'm relieved we don't have 
>> to endure her in the White House -- but leave her kids out of it, please.
>>
>> k.w.
>>
>
>_______________________________________________
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From fluke1 at live.co.uk  Thu Nov  6 17:21:20 2008
From: fluke1 at live.co.uk (fluke fluke)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 22:21:20 +0000
Subject: [kj] Wardance Mash up/Fuck up
Message-ID: <BAY123-W12EED0DAFEE29E014BA6A6BE1E0@phx.gbl>


 
 
Sixth one down...........
 
www.mashup.org/audionew1.html 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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From partyslammer at socal.rr.com  Thu Nov  6 18:09:09 2008
From: partyslammer at socal.rr.com (TB)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 15:09:09 -0800
Subject: [kj] Palin Hellspawn
In-Reply-To: <33005982.1226008063198.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <33005982.1226008063198.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <D95D78F848AC4E7D87CDF2F8636DC501@Bell2007PC>

"Alex Smith" wrote:

> There was a story that was making the rounds back in August that I only 
> heard this week. Evidently, one of little Trig's middle names (he has a 
> few) is "Van". Supposedly -- and I'm being serious -- Sarah and her 
> snowmobiling husband gave him that in tribute to Van Halen (say it out 
> loud).
>
> Stranger than fiction?

It's true.

T.B. 


From folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com  Thu Nov  6 18:13:46 2008
From: folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com (folk devil)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 15:13:46 -0800
Subject: [kj] Wardance Mash up/Fuck up
In-Reply-To: <BAY123-W12EED0DAFEE29E014BA6A6BE1E0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY123-W12EED0DAFEE29E014BA6A6BE1E0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <COL109-W43768F1EC960F9220D8318ED1E0@phx.gbl>


it took you a while to find that one, Pete ;)
"."



From: fluke1 at live.co.ukTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 22:21:20 +0000Subject: [kj] Wardance Mash up/Fuck up

  Sixth one down........... www.mashup.org/audionew1.html              



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From saulomar1 at yahoo.com  Thu Nov  6 18:21:47 2008
From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com (sade1)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 15:21:47 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [kj] McPain
References: <182764.1679.qm@web23202.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <362366.78537.qm@web52601.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

> McPain...didn't even grab Hocky Pitbull Retard Baby's ass! What a nice old man... 

He may've gone further. She did say in her debate that Senator McCain "tapped me..."



?
... ... ... ... ... ... 

[looking at the current?state of things..]
?
'Save me...
? save me?from Tomorrow..
??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? 





________________________________
From: Palin's Political Death Rattle <crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2008 6:05:43 AM
Subject: [kj] McPain

Yeah ol' McPain did sound rather relieved in his concession speech, didn't even grab Hocky Pitbull Retard Baby's ass! What a nice old man he was! 

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The Dirty Three & Genesis P-Orridge 
interviewed here:
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Republicans Out Forever!


--- On Wed, 5/11/08, sade1 <saulomar1 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: sade1 <saulomar1 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this
> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
> Date: Wednesday, 5 November, 2008, 7:23 PM
> > And how right you were
> ?
> Hail Caesar!
> ?
> 
> But I am still genuinely stunned and amazed that the
> Republicans didn't steal it. But?then, who would want
> to steal power in this America and its horrible conditions
> right now. Maybe they thought it's a lose-lose
> situation, "no thanks."
> 
> I think the meaning in his speech was in the tone with
> which he gave it, as if it dawned on him noe even more that
> he now has (given?the unbelievable condtitions u.s./world
> are in) the most unenviable job in the world, and in this
> real-time Reality, too, ifyouknowwhatImean....? 
> 
> Godspeed to you, black Emperor.
> 
> no i never heard 
> that band, i just 
> thought it fit the above.
> 
> 
> ... ... ... ... ... ... 
> 
> [looking at the current?state of things..]
> ?
> 'Save me...
> ? save me?from Tomorrow..
> ??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of
> Fools...'?? 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Karen Weil <karen.weil at sddt.com>
> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
> <gathering at misera.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2008 11:07:10 AM
> Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this
> 
> 
> And how right you were, sade!? : )
> I concede! 
> ?
> k.w.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: sade1 
> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 6:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this
> 
> > Let's not get too carried away.. 
> 
> I will. ;)
> 
> John McCain lost Pennsylvania, John McCain lost Ohio: John
> McCain lost.? Obama is President.
> 
> 
> 
> ... ... ... ... ... ... 
> 
> [looking at the current?state of things..]
> ?
> 'Save me...
> ? save me?from Tomorrow..
> ??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of
> Fools...'?? 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Karen Weil <karen.weil at sddt.com>
> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
> <gathering at misera.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2008 6:14:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this
> 
> Howdy, TB:
> 
> Let's not get too carried away, yet . But I like your
> optimism, regardless!
> 
> k.w.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "TB"
> <partyslammer at socal.rr.com>
> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the
> band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 6:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [kj] wish i could be in u.s.a 4 this
> 
> 
> > "melinda grant" wrote:
> > 
> > i wish i could be in the u.s.a for all this election
> feaver,i could not vote anyhow as i am british citizen and
> in u.k at mo---i have several great aunts and about 30
> cousins spread over u.s.a they would have voted--i really
> hope obama gets in i really do or i predict a riot if he
> does not--if for instance he looses by a slight few votes ;(
> > 
> > +++++++++
> > 
> > Already, Obama has 174 to McCains' measly 49
> electoral votes (either candidate needs 270 or more to
> win).? The news broadcasts are practically chomping at the
> bit to call the race but aren't because polls don't
> close here on the West Coast for another two hours, plus
> they'll lose viewers. There is zero doubt Obama will
> win, and in fact it could be one of the biggest landslides
> in US history.
> > 
> > T.B.
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From fluwdot at earthlink.net  Thu Nov  6 19:08:58 2008
From: fluwdot at earthlink.net (fluw)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 19:08:58 -0500
Subject: [kj] Palin Hellspawn
In-Reply-To: <33005982.1226008063198.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <E1KyEuI-0001uS-Ca@elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

At least they didn't give him the middle name Cherone in honour of gary or
aldo for aldo nova!

-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Alex Smith
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 4:48 PM
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!); A list about all
things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] Palin Hellspawn


There was a story that was making the rounds back in August that I only
heard this week. Evidently, one of little Trig's middle names (he has a few)
is "Van". Supposedly -- and I'm being serious -- Sarah and her snowmobiling
husband gave him that in tribute to Van Halen (say it out loud).

Stranger than fiction?

Alex in NYC



-----Original Message-----
>From: "B. Oliver Sheppard" <bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net>
>Sent: Nov 6, 2008 3:45 PM
>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
<gathering at misera.net>
>Subject: Re: [kj] Palin Hellspawn
>
>I think Palin's kids' names should still be fair game, though: Bristol, 
>Piper, Trig, Willow, and Track? Good grief, what a horribe assortment of 
>names...
>
>-Oliver
>
>
>
>Karen Weil wrote:
>> OK. That's not cool. Palin's horrible, and I'm relieved we don't have 
>> to endure her in the White House -- but leave her kids out of it, please.
>>
>> k.w.
>>
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From fluwdot at earthlink.net  Thu Nov  6 19:14:04 2008
From: fluwdot at earthlink.net (fluw)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 19:14:04 -0500
Subject: [kj] oliver / fox election spin
In-Reply-To: <2846687.1226006165409.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <E1KyEzE-0006WU-4L@elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Mmm.. it is more like a cracker, sorta lumpy - wavy on the surface but
inevitably flat is what I heard.

 

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Alex Smith
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 4:16 PM
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!); gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] oliver / fox election spin

 

Sadly, a considerable amount of Americans believe the earth is flat.

Alex in NYC



-----Original Message----- 
From: folk devil 
Sent: Nov 6, 2008 3:10 PM 
To: gathering at misera.net 
Subject: Re: [kj] oliver / fox election spin 

A considerable amount of Americans believe Socialism is Communism :/

"

> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 14:06:18 -0600
> From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net
> To: gathering at misera.net
> Subject: Re: [kj] oliver / fox election spin
> 
> You're asking me?
> 
> For the same reason you had a solid chunk of the GOP base stubbornly 
> believing Obama was a "SOCIALIST!" because he merely wanted to go back 
> to the Clinton tax rates. "Socialism" is such a bad smear word in the 
> US, a frightful bogeyman, and in popular discourse it's lost any real 
> meaning. It technically means "government (or public) ownership of the 
> means of production." But to like maybe 1/4 of the US population it just 
> means "taxes I don't like to pay," which is stupid.
> 
> This 1 hour program, _Frontline: Sick Around the World_, is the best 
> comparison I have seen between the health care systems of the US, 
> England, Germany, Taiwan, Japan, and Switzerland. It shws how other 
> countries can do it and the US cannot. (Better than "Sicko.") The makers 
> of the documentary went out of their way to contrast the US to 
> _capitalist democracies_:
> 
> 
> http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/sickaroundtheworld/
> 
> 
> And, yes, 14% of our GDP goes to heathcare, compared to the average of 
> 8% of countries in the West who have universal health care, and we get 
> far worse outcomes, including almost 50 million lacking health care. 
> Japan spends 7% of its GDP and has the lngest lifespan, lower infant 
> mortality, and everyone is covered somehow.
> 
> It makes no sense. But the private insurance lobby in the US would not 
> have it any other way.
> 
> -Oliver
> 
> 
> 
> Brendan wrote:
> > So what exactly is up with your healthcare system, why do you pay so
much
> > over there and still get so little for your dollar?
> >
> > 
> > 
> 
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From saulomar1 at yahoo.com  Thu Nov  6 19:24:01 2008
From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com (sade1)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 16:24:01 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [kj] oliver / fox election spin
References: <E1KyEzE-0006WU-4L@elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <486189.57969.qm@web52602.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

> it is more like a cracker, sorta.. 

..like a cosmic communion wafer?

?
... ... ... ... ... ... 

[looking at the current?state of things..]
?
'Save me...
? save me?from Tomorrow..
??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'?? 





________________________________
From: fluw <fluwdot at earthlink.net>
To: Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2008 4:14:04 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] oliver / fox election spin


Mmm.. it is more like a cracker, sorta lumpy - wavy on the surface but inevitably flat is what I heard.
?

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From:gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Alex Smith
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 4:16 PM
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!); gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] oliver / fox election spin
?
Sadly, a considerable amount of Americans believe the earth is flat.
Alex in NYC


-----Original Message----- 
From: folk devil 
Sent: Nov 6, 2008 3:10 PM 
To: gathering at misera.net 
Subject: Re: [kj] oliver / fox election spin 

A considerable amount of Americans believe Socialism is Communism :/

"

> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 14:06:18 -0600
> From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net
> To: gathering at misera.net
> Subject: Re: [kj] oliver / fox election spin
> 
> You're asking me?
> 
> For the same reason you had a solid chunk of the GOP base stubbornly 
> believing Obama was a "SOCIALIST!" because he merely wanted to go back 
> to the Clinton tax rates. "Socialism" is such a bad smear word in the 
> US, a frightful bogeyman, and in popular discourse it's lost any real 
> meaning. It technically means "government (or public) ownership of the 
> means of production." But to like maybe 1/4 of the US population it just 
> means "taxes I don't like to pay," which is stupid.
> 
> This 1 hour program, _Frontline: Sick Around the World_, is the best 
> comparison I have seen between the health care systems of the US , 
> England , Germany , Taiwan , Japan , and Switzerland . It shws how other 
> countries can do it and the US cannot. (Better than "Sicko.") The makers 
> of the documentary went out of their way to contrast the US to 
> _capitalist democracies_:
> 
> 
> http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/sickaroundtheworld/
> 
> 
> And, yes, 14% of our GDP goes to heathcare, compared to the average of 
> 8% of countries in the West who have universal health care, and we get 
> far worse outcomes, including almost 50 million lacking health care. 
> Japan spends 7% of its GDP and has the lngest lifespan, lower infant 
> mortality, and everyone is covered somehow.
> 
> It makes no sense. But the private insurance lobby in the US would not 
> have it any other way.
> 
> -Oliver
> 
> 
> 
> Brendan wrote:
> > So what exactly is up with your healthcare system, why do you pay so much
> > over there and still get so little for your dollar?
> >
> > 
> > 
> 
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From fluwdot at earthlink.net  Thu Nov  6 19:29:14 2008
From: fluwdot at earthlink.net (fluw)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 19:29:14 -0500
Subject: [kj] oliver / fox election spin
In-Reply-To: <486189.57969.qm@web52602.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <E1KyFDt-0002bn-Og@elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

A world where all the inbred bible thumpers live called planet cracker

 

> it is more like a cracker, sorta.. 

 

..like a cosmic communion wafer?


 

... ... ... ... ... ... 


[looking at the current state of things..]

 

'Save me...

  save me from Tomorrow..

    I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'   

 

 

 

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From: fluw <fluwdot at earthlink.net>
To: Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>; A list about all things Killing
Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2008 4:14:04 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] oliver / fox election spin

Mmm.. it is more like a cracker, sorta lumpy - wavy on the surface but
inevitably flat is what I heard.

 

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Alex Smith
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 4:16 PM
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!); gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] oliver / fox election spin

 

Sadly, a considerable amount of Americans believe the earth is flat.

Alex in NYC

-----Original Message----- 
From: folk devil 
Sent: Nov 6, 2008 3:10 PM 
To: gathering at misera.net 
Subject: Re: [kj] oliver / fox election spin 

A considerable amount of Americans believe Socialism is Communism :/

"

> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 14:06:18 -0600
> From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net
> To: gathering at misera.net
> Subject: Re: [kj] oliver / fox election spin
> 
> You're asking me?
> 
> For the same reason you had a solid chunk of the GOP base stubbornly 
> believing Obama was a "SOCIALIST!" because he merely wanted to go back 
> to the Clinton tax rates. "Socialism" is such a bad smear word in the 
> US, a frightful bogeyman, and in popular discourse it's lost any real 
> meaning. It technically means "government (or public) ownership of the 
> means of production." But to like maybe 1/4 of the US population it just 
> means "taxes I don't like to pay," which is stupid.
> 
> This 1 hour program, _Frontline: Sick Around the World_, is the best 
> comparison I have seen between the health care systems of the US , 
> England , Germany , Taiwan , Japan , and Switzerland . It shws how other 
> countries can do it and the US cannot. (Better than "Sicko.") The makers 
> of the documentary went out of their way to contrast the US to 
> _capitalist democracies_:
> 
> 
> http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/sickaroundtheworld/
> 
> 
> And, yes, 14% of our GDP goes to heathcare, compared to the average of 
> 8% of countries in the West who have universal health care, and we get 
> far worse outcomes, including almost 50 million lacking health care. 
> Japan spends 7% of its GDP and has the lngest lifespan, lower infant 
> mortality, and everyone is covered somehow.
> 
> It makes no sense. But the private insurance lobby in the US would not 
> have it any other way.
> 
> -Oliver
> 
> 
> 
> Brendan wrote:
> > So what exactly is up with your healthcare system, why do you pay so
much
> > over there and still get so little for your dollar?
> >
> > 
> > 
> 
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From hollytree1961 at hotmail.com  Thu Nov  6 19:58:47 2008
From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com (melinda grant)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 00:58:47 +0000
Subject: [kj] Palin Hellspawn
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is everyone obamaed out yet lol  i dont like this colour much its awful looks like puke--sorry> From: fatpotanga at gmail.com> To: gathering at misera.net> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 15:01:48 +0000> Subject: Re: [kj] Palin Hellspawn> > yay!> > On 6 Nov 2008, at 14:39, Phillipps Marc wrote:> > >> Don't you like my sense of tumour?> >> > I am afraid not> >> > You have been warned before, consider yourself banned now> >> >> > Marc.> _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
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From: angrytomhanks at yahoo.com (Leigh Newton)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 17:01:56 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [kj] Palin Hellspawn
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What, you mean the poetry slam is over? Shame.

Leigh


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Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2008 9:39:20 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] Palin Hellspawn

>Don't you like my sense of tumour?

I am afraid not

You have been warned before, consider yourself banned now 


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From karen.weil at sddt.com  Thu Nov  6 20:05:40 2008
From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 17:05:40 -0800
Subject: [kj] Palin Hellspawn
References: <958915.88816.qm@web23208.mail.ird.yahoo.com><0ECC3C75E02247B6B4CF775E1370B6CE@edweil>
	<822674.64767.qm@web57307.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <B3FA9728D4B942D3B69B31E5D1C92FDE@edweil>

LOL! Good reminder, Elana. . < ; ) 

Thank God the election's over.

k.w.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Elana Mojica 
  To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) 
  Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 12:37 PM
  Subject: Re: [kj] Palin Hellspawn


  You know if you respond to him he'll just keep going

  ignore it and maybe it will go away >.<  unlikely but just delete delete delete :)




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  From: Karen Weil <karen.weil at sddt.com>
  To: crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
  Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2008 2:34:32 PM
  Subject: Re: [kj] Palin Hellspawn

  OK. That's not cool. Palin's horrible, and I'm relieved we don't have to endure her in the White House -- but leave her kids out of it, please.

  k.w.
  ----- Original Message ----- From: "Palin's Political Death Rattle" <crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk>
  To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
  Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 5:50 AM
  Subject: [kj] Palin Hellspawn


  > Have you seen her son Trig?
  > 
  > Looks like an inbred retard baby from Hell!
  > 
  >> From: B. Oliver Sheppard <bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net>
  >> Subject: Re: [kj] Oliver...............
  >> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
  >> Date: Thursday, 6 November, 2008, 8:05 AM
  >> The specter of President Palin forced the hand.
  >> 
  >> It was just revealed she did not know Africa was even a
  >> continent.
  > 
  > 
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From karen.weil at sddt.com  Thu Nov  6 20:06:19 2008
From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 17:06:19 -0800
Subject: [kj] Palin Hellspawn
References: <958915.88816.qm@web23208.mail.ird.yahoo.com><0ECC3C75E02247B6B4CF775E1370B6CE@edweil>
	<49135785.1030308@sbcglobal.net>
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On that, I *will* agree with you 100 percent, Oliver!

Ciao,

k.w.
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From: "B. Oliver Sheppard" <bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net>
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
<gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 12:45 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] Palin Hellspawn


>I think Palin's kids' names should still be fair game, though: Bristol, 
>Piper, Trig, Willow, and Track? Good grief, what a horribe assortment of 
>names...
>
> -Oliver
>
>
>
> Karen Weil wrote:
>> OK. That's not cool. Palin's horrible, and I'm relieved we don't have to 
>> endure her in the White House -- but leave her kids out of it, please.
>>
>> k.w.
>>
>
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From bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net  Thu Nov  6 20:05:21 2008
From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net (B. Oliver Sheppard)
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 19:05:21 -0600
Subject: [kj] Palin Hellspawn
In-Reply-To: <BLU120-W2187621627C1F8CA2A0E8AB8190@phx.gbl>
References: <130257.59330.qm@web23203.mail.ird.yahoo.com>	<BD60B2A89D16094897629D4CCC50B1CB3A4835@ED01VN01.NCL-HIS.NHS.UK>
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The Onion: "Obama Win Causes Obsessive Supporters To Realize How Empty 
Their Lives Are"

Video:  
http://www.theonion.com/content/video/obama_win_causes_obsessive?utm_source=embedded_video


My vote for Obama was more a vote against the worse alternative. I never 
attended rallies, held signs, bought merch, etc. I have spent way more 
$$ on KJ merch, for example - not a dime on Obama. I just went into a 
voting booth.

-Oliver


melinda grant wrote:
> is everyone obamaed out yet lol  i dont like this colour much its 
> awful looks like puke--sorry
>
>


From karen.weil at sddt.com  Thu Nov  6 20:10:41 2008
From: karen.weil at sddt.com (Karen Weil)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 17:10:41 -0800
Subject: [kj] Palin Hellspawn
References: <33005982.1226008063198.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <0C14F414D29545A38356A4AD6A56F9F5@edweil>

*Groan....*
Boy, am I glad we don't have to deal with her for four years!
Van Palin? WTF? Are they kidding?
Anyway, thanks for the chuckle.

k.w.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alex Smith" <vassifer at earthlink.net>
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
<gathering at misera.net>; "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
<gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] Palin Hellspawn


>
> There was a story that was making the rounds back in August that I only 
> heard this week. Evidently, one of little Trig's middle names (he has a 
> few) is "Van". Supposedly -- and I'm being serious -- Sarah and her 
> snowmobiling husband gave him that in tribute to Van Halen (say it out 
> loud).
>
> Stranger than fiction?
>
> Alex in NYC
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>>From: "B. Oliver Sheppard" <bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net>
>>Sent: Nov 6, 2008 3:45 PM
>>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
>><gathering at misera.net>
>>Subject: Re: [kj] Palin Hellspawn
>>
>>I think Palin's kids' names should still be fair game, though: Bristol,
>>Piper, Trig, Willow, and Track? Good grief, what a horribe assortment of
>>names...
>>
>>-Oliver
>>
>>
>>
>>Karen Weil wrote:
>>> OK. That's not cool. Palin's horrible, and I'm relieved we don't have
>>> to endure her in the White House -- but leave her kids out of it, 
>>> please.
>>>
>>> k.w.
>>>
>>
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From hollytree1961 at hotmail.com  Thu Nov  6 20:13:01 2008
From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com (melinda grant)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 01:13:01 +0000
Subject: [kj] Palin Hellspawn
In-Reply-To: <49139451.9070605@sbcglobal.net>
References: <130257.59330.qm@web23203.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
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i totally agree with you olly,if i were an american citizen i would of voted for obama for many reasons, one  beeing to also to keep out the alternative also,thats just common sence ;) i will just check this vid you [posted have not looked yet> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 19:05:21 -0600> From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re: [kj] Palin Hellspawn> > The Onion: "Obama Win Causes Obsessive Supporters To Realize How Empty > Their Lives Are"> > Video: > http://www.theonion.com/content/video/obama_win_causes_obsessive?utm_source=embedded_video> > > My vote for Obama was more a vote against the worse alternative. I never > attended rallies, held signs, bought merch, etc. I have spent way more > $$ on KJ merch, for example - not a dime on Obama. I just went into a > voting booth.> > -Oliver> > > melinda grant wrote:> > is everyone obamaed out yet lol i dont like this colour much its > > awful looks like puke--sorry> >> >> > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
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From hollytree1961 at hotmail.com  Thu Nov  6 20:31:06 2008
From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com (melinda grant)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 01:31:06 +0000
Subject: [kj] Palin Hellspawn
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lol did not know weather to laugh or cry after watching that vid you posted olly> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 19:05:21 -0600,it was amusing,but i guess theres fanatics still out there who proberly feel that they have no cause to follow now there main target has won,its kinda sad ;/ to watch!!> From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re: [kj] Palin Hellspawn> > The Onion: "Obama Win Causes Obsessive Supporters To Realize How Empty > Their Lives Are"> > Video: > http://www.theonion.com/content/video/obama_win_causes_obsessive?utm_source=embedded_video> > > My vote for Obama was more a vote against the worse alternative. I never > attended rallies, held signs, bought merch, etc. I have spent way more > $$ on KJ merch, for example - not a dime on Obama. I just went into a > voting booth.> > -Oliver> > > melinda grant wrote:> > is everyone obamaed out yet lol i dont like this colour much its > > awful looks like puke--sorry> >> >> > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
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From LONESTYLE at aol.com  Thu Nov  6 20:57:12 2008
From: LONESTYLE at aol.com (LONESTYLE at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 20:57:12 EST
Subject: [kj] Oliver...............
Message-ID: <c81.3daec6e7.3644fa78@aol.com>

 
Well, that is true about if there was an invasion, but you have to remember  
that in World 1 and 2 we did not get involved in your wars until the very end 
or  almost so it goes both ways. Singling out just American soldiers is  
completely wrong for all soldiers make mistakes in wars even yours. So don't say  
yours is better than ours which sounds like what you are saying. Because we  
covered your asses too and will and still do if there was something to go  down! 
 We are both in the same Ally boat.
 
If you do not like Oliver, why even write about him and who he  has voted for?
 
 
~ LB
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 11/6/2008 12:35:42 PM Pacific Standard Time,  
fluke1 at live.co.uk writes:

Oliver previously stated whom he voted for and I  was wondering as to why he 
made his choice.
American Politics mean a lot to me, because if  your President decides to 
invade another Country , it is my Country which will  have to cover your asses . 
Whilst your boys are out there shooting everything  that moves, my boys are 
out there apologising for your boys  behavior
I didn't attack  Oliver at all , I just asked him his reasons for voting for 
his choice , there  really was no attack at all . I dont like Oliver anyway , 
so I wont be  disliking him just because of whom he votes for .
I have not heard Mccain's manifesto and  neither have I heard Obamas 
Manifesto , I do not know what their policies are  , so I cannot judge a person by 
whom he votes for . 
I just asked Oliver why he voted for Obama  .
If I has assurances that Obama  wouldn't impose Sharia law and if I had 
assurances that Obama wouldn't  legalise drive by shootings.......then I'd probably 
have voted for him as  well.......if I was a U.S citizen, that is. 




 
____________________________________

From: LONESTYLE at aol.com
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 15:12:37 -0500
To:  gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj]  Oliver...............



Why would you even care who Oliver voted for and why???
 
Why do American politics mean so much to you when you don't even live in  the 
states? 
 
Attacking Oliver is a bit out of line. If he voted for McCan't I would  not 
care. After all we are all human, and that doesn't change me liking him or  
not. 
 
You know it is all mess with the banks and houses, etc., and we all know  
that, but the man was the better choice and has his head on  straighter than 
McCain! McCain talks old... About Reagan and what not.  Most of the generation who 
born in the 80's did not live through that  bullshit! And after all the Bush 
leftovers Obama does have a big challenge as  any other President would coming 
into public office for the first time.
 
~LB
 
In a message dated 11/6/2008 3:00:13 AM Pacific Standard Time,  
fluke1 at live.co.uk writes:

What I found a bit discerning about these  elections was the lack of 
discussion about policies amongst the  electorate .
Maybe they  were discussed in the U.S., but on World forums , Americans seems 
to be  discussing trivial things , A Lady even said that she was going to 
vote for  Obama because he had a nice smile WFT !!!! Did she think that if Obama  
smiles at the Trillion Dollar deficit....then it will reduce itself to a  
Billion Dollar deficit ?
Polices should be paramamount in Elections , but then  again , can you trust 
what the Politicians say ? Obama said that he  would spend more on public 
services  and the other bloke (Palins mate)  said that he would cut taxes, both of 
these options are impracticable , with  two wars going on, the recession just 
starting, the Trillion Dollar deficit  , the only option is to raise taxes 
and to cut spending, neither of the  Parties would have admitted this because it 
would have been a vote loser  .
Obama faces a very  difficult task, The U.S's position as the only World 
Superpower is at stake  , China and Russia could surpass the U.S. if Obama doesnt 
get the U.S back  on track .
The Billion  Dollar deficit , to whom is the Billion Dollars owed to ? Arent 
the banks  going broke ? If the banks called in the debts...wouldn't the 
Government be  insolvent ?



> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 02:05:40  -0600
> From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net
> To:  gathering at misera.net
> Subject: Re: [kj] Oliver...............
>  
> The specter of President Palin forced the hand.
> 
> It  was just revealed she did not know Africa was even a continent. She 
>  thought it was a country. And John "My Fellow Prisoners" McCain is so  
> old she could've become Pres. and had her hand on the nuke  arsenal.
> 
> 
>  http://wonkette.com/404207/sarah-palin-thought-africa-was-a-coun
try-not-a-continent  
> <-- video there
> 
> 
> Sorry, but no. Denied.  Go back to your arctic circle, ma'am, the US 
> state that has a lower  population than many US cities.
> 
> -Oliver
> 
>  
> fluke fluke wrote:
> > 
> > Out of curiosity, why  did you vote for Obama?
> 
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From folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com  Thu Nov  6 21:01:16 2008
From: folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com (folk devil)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 18:01:16 -0800
Subject: [kj] (ot) Mayans
Message-ID: <COL109-W16506AAAF52943AEDA008EED190@phx.gbl>


http://punditkitchen.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/political-pictures-sarah-palin-mayans.jpg
 
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From bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net  Thu Nov  6 21:04:46 2008
From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net (B. Oliver Sheppard)
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 20:04:46 -0600
Subject: [kj] Oliver...............
In-Reply-To: <c81.3daec6e7.3644fa78@aol.com>
References: <c81.3daec6e7.3644fa78@aol.com>
Message-ID: <4913A23E.7000402@sbcglobal.net>

The "Sometimes-I'm-conservative,-sometimes-I'm-not" Christopher Hitchens 
(British/US citizen) made basically this case (pretty well) on why the 
McCain-Palin ticket had to be repudiated here, from Larry King:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sle-eWZVUMw 
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sle-eWZVUMw>

I am not so pro-Obama as I am anti-wacko.

-Oliver


>  
> In a message dated 11/6/2008 12:35:42 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
> fluke1 at live.co.uk writes:
>
>     Oliver previously stated whom he voted for and I was wondering as
>     to why he made his choice.
>     American Politics mean a lot to me, because if your President
>     decides to invade another Country , it is my Country which will
>     have to cover your asses .
>


From hollytree1961 at hotmail.com  Thu Nov  6 21:14:27 2008
From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com (melinda grant)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 02:14:27 +0000
Subject: [kj] (ot) Mayans
In-Reply-To: <COL109-W16506AAAF52943AEDA008EED190@phx.gbl>
References: <COL109-W16506AAAF52943AEDA008EED190@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BLU120-W325EE226D048758A1FCC62B8190@phx.gbl>


lol lol they are always right the mayans ;D

From: folkdevil_23 at hotmail.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 18:01:16 -0800Subject: [kj] (ot) Mayans

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From go1845 at yahoo.com  Thu Nov  6 22:58:09 2008
From: go1845 at yahoo.com (Geoffrey ODonoghue)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 19:58:09 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [kj] OT - Last Shadow Puppets
In-Reply-To: <61198.203.185.215.144.1225974871.squirrel@www.webmail.orcon.net.nz>
Message-ID: <921600.56602.qm@web54605.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Love QOTSA - Homme is a genius. However - Kyuss does nothing for me.
?
Geoff

--- On Thu, 11/6/08, Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> wrote:

From: Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
Subject: Re: [kj] OT - Last Shadow Puppets
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
Date: Thursday, November 6, 2008, 11:34 PM

I'm gonna put it out there again, anyone else rate Josh Homme as a
guitarist? I think he's kickass, magnum opus being the duelling guitars
(or complementing guitars) soloing out as the last song on Kyuss's last
album fades out...that's totally when I want someone to throw the radio in
the bath, JUST when it's peaking...

;p



      
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From bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net  Fri Nov  7 00:23:20 2008
From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net (B. Oliver Sheppard)
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 23:23:20 -0600
Subject: [kj] OT: Rikk Agnew
Message-ID: <4913D0C8.6070800@sbcglobal.net>

Agnew's early 80s solo LP, _All By Myself_, can be downloaded free in 
mp3 format, here:



http://punknotprofit.blogspot.com/2007/06/rikk-agnew-all-by-myself-1982.html



Who is Rikk Agnew?

How about original guitarist for the Adolescents, Social Distortion, 
Christian Death, and also in the lineup of 45 Grave?

A really underrated guitarist in the history of punk/death rock/gothic 
punk, much less solo performer.


-Oliver

From BMeissner at encorehollywood.com  Fri Nov  7 01:52:09 2008
From: BMeissner at encorehollywood.com (Bill Meissner)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 22:52:09 -0800
Subject: [kj] OT - Last Shadow Puppets
In-Reply-To: <921600.56602.qm@web54605.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <5AD3143C248D1646A097487465F7702390D3DF@fountain6344ex2.corp.ad>

    Arctic Monkeys have been staying w/ Josh Homme in Joshua Tree, CA.
at his studio there. Josh is doing a "Desert Session" with them and at
the same time using it as an experiment to see if the chemistry is there
for Josh to produce the new Arctic Monkeys album. Either way, the
sessions should bear some fruit. We'll see......

 

              Billy Goat

 

 

 

 

________________________________

From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
On Behalf Of Geoffrey ODonoghue
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 7:58 PM
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OT - Last Shadow Puppets

 

Love QOTSA - Homme is a genius. However - Kyuss does nothing for me.

 

Geoff

--- On Thu, 11/6/08, Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> wrote:

	From: Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
	Subject: Re: [kj] OT - Last Shadow Puppets
	To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
<gathering at misera.net>
	Date: Thursday, November 6, 2008, 11:34 PM

	I'm gonna put it out there again, anyone else rate Josh Homme as
a
	guitarist? I think he's kickass, magnum opus being the duelling
guitars
	(or complementing guitars) soloing out as the last song on
Kyuss's last
	album fades out...that's totally when I want someone to throw
the radio in
	the bath, JUST when it's peaking...
	 
	;p

 

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From fluke1 at live.co.uk  Fri Nov  7 03:39:57 2008
From: fluke1 at live.co.uk (fluke fluke)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 08:39:57 +0000
Subject: [kj] Oliver...............
In-Reply-To: <c81.3daec6e7.3644fa78@aol.com>
References: <c81.3daec6e7.3644fa78@aol.com>
Message-ID: <BLU108-W32E8117388C38AB39A1FB8BE190@phx.gbl>


 
So, where were you in the Falklands war then ? and why did the U.S. pay for the I.R.A's bombing campaigns in the 80's?
You only entered the Second World War when Japan forced your hand with the attack on Pearl Harbour, up until then you didn't get involved . Also , we didn't finish paying off the monetary debt for WW2 to you  until 2006, money that we had to pay the U.S..  50 years in took for us to repay you the money. That isn't covering out asses, that is bleeding us dry . I wonder whether Kuwait has finished paying for your services.........and how long Iraq will eventually take to pay you off ?
  The U.K. forces had a completely different approach in Basra to what the U.S forces had in other parts of Iraq . U,.K. forces took a more diplomatic and peaceful approach with the emphasis being on dialogue and coexistence, whilst the U.S. forces in other parts of Iraq tried to impose themselves through force , attack and intimidation . And due to this, Basra was a lot more peaceful and less violent and problematic than other parts of Iraq .
 
  And if I only wrote to and about people that I liked ..........one keyboard would last me a life time.......
 
 
 
 
 
 




From: LONESTYLE at aol.comDate: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 20:57:12 -0500To: gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] Oliver...............

Well, that is true about if there was an invasion, but you have to remember that in World 1 and 2 we did not get involved in your wars until the very end or almost so it goes both ways. Singling out just American soldiers is completely wrong for all soldiers make mistakes in wars even yours. So don't say yours is better than ours which sounds like what you are saying. Because we covered your asses too and will and still do if there was something to go down!  We are both in the same Ally boat.
 
If you do not like Oliver, why even write about him and who he has voted for?
 
 
~ LB
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 11/6/2008 12:35:42 PM Pacific Standard Time, fluke1 at live.co.uk writes:
Oliver previously stated whom he voted for and I was wondering as to why he made his choice.American Politics mean a lot to me, because if your President decides to invade another Country , it is my Country which will have to cover your asses . Whilst your boys are out there shooting everything that moves, my boys are out there apologising for your boys behavior  I didn't attack Oliver at all , I just asked him his reasons for voting for his choice , there really was no attack at all . I dont like Oliver anyway , so I wont be disliking him just because of whom he votes for .  I have not heard Mccain's manifesto and neither have I heard Obamas Manifesto , I do not know what their policies are , so I cannot judge a person by whom he votes for .   I just asked Oliver why he voted for Obama .If I has assurances that Obama wouldn't impose Sharia law and if I had assurances that Obama wouldn't legalise drive by shootings.......then I'd probably have voted for him as well.......if I was a U.S citizen, that is.   

From: LONESTYLE at aol.comDate: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 15:12:37 -0500To: gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] Oliver...............

Why would you even care who Oliver voted for and why???
 
Why do American politics mean so much to you when you don't even live in the states? 
 
Attacking Oliver is a bit out of line. If he voted for McCan't I would not care. After all we are all human, and that doesn't change me liking him or not. 
 
You know it is all mess with the banks and houses, etc., and we all know that, but the man was the better choice and has his head on straighter than McCain! McCain talks old... About Reagan and what not. Most of the generation who born in the 80's did not live through that bullshit! And after all the Bush leftovers Obama does have a big challenge as any other President would coming into public office for the first time.
 
~LB
 
In a message dated 11/6/2008 3:00:13 AM Pacific Standard Time, fluke1 at live.co.uk writes:
What I found a bit discerning about these elections was the lack of discussion about policies amongst the electorate .Maybe they were discussed in the U.S., but on World forums , Americans seems to be discussing trivial things , A Lady even said that she was going to vote for Obama because he had a nice smile WFT !!!! Did she think that if Obama smiles at the Trillion Dollar deficit....then it will reduce itself to a Billion Dollar deficit ?   Polices should be paramamount in Elections , but then again , can you trust what the Politicians say ? Obama said that he would spend more on public services  and the other bloke (Palins mate) said that he would cut taxes, both of these options are impracticable , with two wars going on, the recession just starting, the Trillion Dollar deficit , the only option is to raise taxes and to cut spending, neither of the Parties would have admitted this because it would have been a vote loser .  Obama faces a very difficult task, The U.S's position as the only World Superpower is at stake , China and Russia could surpass the U.S. if Obama doesnt get the U.S back on track .  The Billion Dollar deficit , to whom is the Billion Dollars owed to ? Arent the banks going broke ? If the banks called in the debts...wouldn't the Government be insolvent ? > Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 02:05:40 -0600> From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re: [kj] Oliver...............> > The specter of President Palin forced the hand.> > It was just revealed she did not know Africa was even a continent. She > thought it was a country. And John "My Fellow Prisoners" McCain is so > old she could've become Pres. and had her hand on the nuke arsenal.> > > http://wonkette.com/404207/sarah-palin-thought-africa-was-a-country-not-a-continent > <-- video there> > > Sorry, but no. Denied. Go back to your arctic circle, ma'am, the US > state that has a lower population than many US cities.> > -Oliver> > > fluke fluke wrote:> > > > Out of curiosity, why did you vote for Obama?> > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering

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From bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net  Fri Nov  7 03:49:18 2008
From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net (B. Oliver Sheppard)
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 02:49:18 -0600
Subject: [kj] Oliver...............
In-Reply-To: <BLU108-W32E8117388C38AB39A1FB8BE190@phx.gbl>
References: <c81.3daec6e7.3644fa78@aol.com>
	<BLU108-W32E8117388C38AB39A1FB8BE190@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4914010E.3090407@sbcglobal.net>

8 years old in a classroom learning multiplication tables in Tennessee...?

-Oliver



fluke fluke wrote:
>  
> So, where were you in the Falklands war then ?


From fluke1 at live.co.uk  Fri Nov  7 04:03:48 2008
From: fluke1 at live.co.uk (fluke fluke)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 09:03:48 +0000
Subject: [kj] Rapid Eye Movement
Message-ID: <BLU108-W1862375AC165ABE990050CBE190@phx.gbl>


 
 
Why does Jaz keep blinking ?
Anyone know anything about body language ?
 
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From bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net  Fri Nov  7 04:11:26 2008
From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net (B. Oliver Sheppard)
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 03:11:26 -0600
Subject: [kj] Rapid Eye Movement
In-Reply-To: <BLU108-W1862375AC165ABE990050CBE190@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU108-W1862375AC165ABE990050CBE190@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4914063E.1040608@sbcglobal.net>


"Blinking, known less commonly as nictating, is the rapid closing and 
opening of the eyelid. It is an essential function of the eye that helps 
spread tears across and remove irritants from the surface of the cornea 
and conjunctiva."

--from "Blinking" entry at Wikipedia.




fluke fluke wrote:
>  
>  
> Why does Jaz keep blinking ?
> Anyone know anything about body language ?
>  
> http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6wvs9_killing-joke-live-ed-intervista-par_music
>  


From jelbod at hotmail.co.uk  Fri Nov  7 04:51:59 2008
From: jelbod at hotmail.co.uk (jerry bodkin)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 09:51:59 +0000
Subject: [kj] Rapid Eye Movement
In-Reply-To: <BLU108-W1862375AC165ABE990050CBE190@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU108-W1862375AC165ABE990050CBE190@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY135-W49F7AAC5C50E85E551108A98190@phx.gbl>


 
 At a guess i would say he doesnt have his contact lenses in and is having problems focusing.
 
 Jel.



From: fluke1 at live.co.ukTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 09:03:48 +0000Subject: [kj] Rapid Eye Movement

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From jelbod at hotmail.co.uk  Fri Nov  7 04:54:07 2008
From: jelbod at hotmail.co.uk (jerry bodkin)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 09:54:07 +0000
Subject: [kj] Oliver...............
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 Tell it like it is.
 
 Jel.
 
 Lest we forget!



From: fluke1 at live.co.ukTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 08:39:57 +0000Subject: Re: [kj] Oliver...............

 So, where were you in the Falklands war then ? and why did the U.S. pay for the I.R.A's bombing campaigns in the 80's?You only entered the Second World War when Japan forced your hand with the attack on Pearl Harbour, up until then you didn't get involved . Also , we didn't finish paying off the monetary debt for WW2 to you  until 2006, money that we had to pay the U.S..  50 years in took for us to repay you the money. That isn't covering out asses, that is bleeding us dry . I wonder whether Kuwait has finished paying for your services.........and how long Iraq will eventually take to pay you off ?  The U.K. forces had a completely different approach in Basra to what the U.S forces had in other parts of Iraq . U,.K. forces took a more diplomatic and peaceful approach with the emphasis being on dialogue and coexistence, whilst the U.S. forces in other parts of Iraq tried to impose themselves through force , attack and intimidation . And due to this, Basra was a lot more peaceful and less violent and problematic than other parts of Iraq .   And if I only wrote to and about people that I liked ..........one keyboard would last me a life time.......      



From: LONESTYLE at aol.comDate: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 20:57:12 -0500To: gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] Oliver...............

Well, that is true about if there was an invasion, but you have to remember that in World 1 and 2 we did not get involved in your wars until the very end or almost so it goes both ways. Singling out just American soldiers is completely wrong for all soldiers make mistakes in wars even yours. So don't say yours is better than ours which sounds like what you are saying. Because we covered your asses too and will and still do if there was something to go down!  We are both in the same Ally boat.
 
If you do not like Oliver, why even write about him and who he has voted for?
 
 
~ LB
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 11/6/2008 12:35:42 PM Pacific Standard Time, fluke1 at live.co.uk writes:
Oliver previously stated whom he voted for and I was wondering as to why he made his choice.American Politics mean a lot to me, because if your President decides to invade another Country , it is my Country which will have to cover your asses . Whilst your boys are out there shooting everything that moves, my boys are out there apologising for your boys behavior  I didn't attack Oliver at all , I just asked him his reasons for voting for his choice , there really was no attack at all . I dont like Oliver anyway , so I wont be disliking him just because of whom he votes for .  I have not heard Mccain's manifesto and neither have I heard Obamas Manifesto , I do not know what their policies are , so I cannot judge a person by whom he votes for .   I just asked Oliver why he voted for Obama .If I has assurances that Obama wouldn't impose Sharia law and if I had assurances that Obama wouldn't legalise drive by shootings.......then I'd probably have voted for him as well.......if I was a U.S citizen, that is.   

From: LONESTYLE at aol.comDate: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 15:12:37 -0500To: gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] Oliver...............

Why would you even care who Oliver voted for and why???
 
Why do American politics mean so much to you when you don't even live in the states? 
 
Attacking Oliver is a bit out of line. If he voted for McCan't I would not care. After all we are all human, and that doesn't change me liking him or not. 
 
You know it is all mess with the banks and houses, etc., and we all know that, but the man was the better choice and has his head on straighter than McCain! McCain talks old... About Reagan and what not. Most of the generation who born in the 80's did not live through that bullshit! And after all the Bush leftovers Obama does have a big challenge as any other President would coming into public office for the first time.
 
~LB
 
In a message dated 11/6/2008 3:00:13 AM Pacific Standard Time, fluke1 at live.co.uk writes:
What I found a bit discerning about these elections was the lack of discussion about policies amongst the electorate .Maybe they were discussed in the U.S., but on World forums , Americans seems to be discussing trivial things , A Lady even said that she was going to vote for Obama because he had a nice smile WFT !!!! Did she think that if Obama smiles at the Trillion Dollar deficit....then it will reduce itself to a Billion Dollar deficit ?   Polices should be paramamount in Elections , but then again , can you trust what the Politicians say ? Obama said that he would spend more on public services  and the other bloke (Palins mate) said that he would cut taxes, both of these options are impracticable , with two wars going on, the recession just starting, the Trillion Dollar deficit , the only option is to raise taxes and to cut spending, neither of the Parties would have admitted this because it would have been a vote loser .  Obama faces a very difficult task, The U.S's position as the only World Superpower is at stake , China and Russia could surpass the U.S. if Obama doesnt get the U.S back on track .  The Billion Dollar deficit , to whom is the Billion Dollars owed to ? Arent the banks going broke ? If the banks called in the debts...wouldn't the Government be insolvent ? > Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 02:05:40 -0600> From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re: [kj] Oliver...............> > The specter of President Palin forced the hand.> > It was just revealed she did not know Africa was even a continent. She > thought it was a country. And John "My Fellow Prisoners" McCain is so > old she could've become Pres. and had her hand on the nuke arsenal.> > > http://wonkette.com/404207/sarah-palin-thought-africa-was-a-country-not-a-continent > <-- video there> > > Sorry, but no. Denied. Go back to your arctic circle, ma'am, the US > state that has a lower population than many US cities.> > -Oliver> > > fluke fluke wrote:> > > > Out of curiosity, why did you vote for Obama?> > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering

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From Rob at westwoodassociates.co.uk  Fri Nov  7 05:01:16 2008
From: Rob at westwoodassociates.co.uk (Rob Horan)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 10:01:16 -0000
Subject: [kj] OT: more cowbell!
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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
On Behalf Of woody2shooz
Sent: 06 November 2008 20:51
To: a.tolksdorf at yahoo.co.uk; A list about all things Killing Joke (the
band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: more cowbell!


never bored, might like you

anyway, chrimbly gatherings, 20th December. I'm game. Rob Horan has
confirmed for a bar in <ahem> queens<ahem>land

I was thinking London

Alexandra Tolksdorf wrote: 

If you're bored, like me, you might find this amusing...
 
http://www.morecowbell.dj/

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From pmdavies at gmail.com  Fri Nov  7 05:21:34 2008
From: pmdavies at gmail.com (iPat)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 10:21:34 +0000
Subject: [kj] ot: uk street ware
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interesting
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00fh77w/British_Style_Genius_Loud_and_Proud_The_Street_Look/

-- 
iPat

From 65snoopy at gmail.com  Fri Nov  7 06:44:23 2008
From: 65snoopy at gmail.com (Neil Perry)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 12:44:23 +0100
Subject: [kj] OT - Last Shadow Puppets
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I tend to veer the other way. I think Homme's guitar work with Kyuss is
superb but he has got continually less interesting as QOTSA's career
has progressed. Love the first album and Songs for the Deaf but the last
two have left me rather cold.
Kyuss, however, still remain the benchmark for heavy rock as far as
I'm concerned - seeing them play is still one of the highpoints of my
gig-going life.
And yes, that last track on the last album was a hell of a way to
close.
N
PS: Worth tracking down if you don't have it is Unida's 'lost album'
(Kyuss singer John Garcia's band) - they were apparently on track to
record it with Rick Rubin but then somehow someone dropped
the ball, it never came out and the band split. However, you
can get vinyl copies on eBay or download a torrent - both excellent
studio quality. Album is called 'The Great Divide'. (And bizarrely it is
on LastFM also)



2008/11/7 Geoffrey ODonoghue <go1845 at yahoo.com>

> Love QOTSA - Homme is a genius. However - Kyuss does nothing for me.
>
> Geoff
>
> --- On *Thu, 11/6/08, Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>* wrote:
>
> From: Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
> Subject: Re: [kj] OT - Last Shadow Puppets
> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <
> gathering at misera.net>
> Date: Thursday, November 6, 2008, 11:34 PM
>
> I'm gonna put it out there again, anyone else rate Josh Homme as a
> guitarist? I think he's kickass, magnum opus being the duelling guitars
> (or complementing guitars) soloing out as the last song on Kyuss's last
> album fades out...that's totally when I want someone to throw the radio in
> the bath, JUST when it's peaking...
>
> ;p
>
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