[kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart
Karen Weil
karen.weil at sddt.com
Wed Nov 5 16:03:13 EST 2008
Point taken, Brendan.
Have a good one.
k.w.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brendan" <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
<gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 12:06 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart
> Tone doesn't translate in email, which is why I sprinlke so many smileys
> around...I should have here cos I was being sardonic to some extent. In an
> earlier email tonight I was saying that I think he'll have a positive
> impact overall...but like Bongo and a few others, and Noam Chomsky who I
> quoted and agree with Oliver on, I don't see a fundamental change in the
> power structure coming. Hence not a huge change in the average person's
> lot.
>
> He's a successful american politician, so he HAS to be Christian, he HAS
> to sell out to the corporates, he HAS to use rhetoric.
>
> I'm totally stoked for you guys, and everyone, and I'm not raining on your
> parade, but I'm a reliast too. So sorry, I'll be as cynical as I see fit.
>
> And in terms of the financial storm that's still developing, I don't see
> any point in being 'positive' about it, it's gonna cause untold pain in my
> opinion and all the denial about it that's gone on for the last several
> years achieves nothing.
>
>> Wow, Brendan -- such *positive* thinking!
>> Look, I consider myself fully a realist, but -- with all due respect,
>> honestly -- spare me the cynicism.
>> Rhetoric aside, no one is expecting miracles from Obama or anyone else.
>> But,
>> sorry, I'll continue hoping for the best!
>>
>> Boy howdy,
>>
>> KW
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Brendan" <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
>> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
>> <gathering at misera.net>
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 11:40 AM
>> Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart
>>
>>
>>> The economic dramas worldwide, which I think are only just beginning, if
>>> nothing else will provide Obama with a good excuse for not saving the
>>> world (oh, sorry, the US) within the first 8 hours of his tenure...and
>>> potentially 4 years down the track when he's looking for re-election (if
>>> he hasn't been assassinated)...
>>>
>>>> Not perhaps the most brillant speech, but I think it was more sobering
>>>> than
>>>> anything. Basically, he was saying, "We're gonna have a hard road to
>>>> hoe."
>>>> What the next four years will bring is anyone's guess, but let's all
>>>> hope
>>>> for the best.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> k.w.
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Sarah's Putrefying Kunt" <crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk>
>>>> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
>>>> <gathering at misera.net>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 6:37 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Obama's acceptance speech was rather vacuous wasn't it?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --- On Wed, 5/11/08, fluw <fluwdot at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> From: fluw <fluwdot at earthlink.net>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d
>>>>>> To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'"
>>>>>> <gathering at misera.net>
>>>>>> Date: Wednesday, 5 November, 2008, 2:07 PM
>>>>>> I am excited about Obama and for what 'he says' he
>>>>>> will do, especially here
>>>>>> in the US socially - and I look forward to the
>>>>>> possibilities of people
>>>>>> coming together in the US, but anyone who thinks Obama is
>>>>>> going to make
>>>>>> drastic change overseas, in the environment, or fiscally is
>>>>>> a fool.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The world is America's bitch and she likes to have her
>>>>>> ass reamed.
>>>>>
>>>>>
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