[kj] oliver / fox election spin

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Thu Nov 6 15:10:42 EST 2008



A considerable amount of Americans believe Socialism is Communism :/"> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 14:06:18 -0600> From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re: [kj] oliver / fox election spin> > You're asking me?> > For the same reason you had a solid chunk of the GOP base stubbornly > believing Obama was a "SOCIALIST!" because he merely wanted to go back > to the Clinton tax rates. "Socialism" is such a bad smear word in the > US, a frightful bogeyman, and in popular discourse it's lost any real > meaning. It technically means "government (or public) ownership of the > means of production." But to like maybe 1/4 of the US population it just > means "taxes I don't like to pay," which is stupid.> > This 1 hour program, _Frontline: Sick Around the World_, is the best > comparison I have seen between the health care systems of the US, > England, Germany, Taiwan, Japan, and Switzerland. It shws how other > countries can do it and the US cannot. (Better than "Sicko.") The makers > of the documentary went out of their way to contrast the US to > _capitalist democracies_:> > > http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/sickaroundtheworld/> > > And, yes, 14% of our GDP goes to heathcare, compared to the average of > 8% of countries in the West who have universal health care, and we get > far worse outcomes, including almost 50 million lacking health care. > Japan spends 7% of its GDP and has the lngest lifespan, lower infant > mortality, and everyone is covered somehow.> > It makes no sense. But the private insurance lobby in the US would not > have it any other way.> > -Oliver> > > > Brendan wrote:> > So what exactly is up with your healthcare system, why do you pay so much> > over there and still get so little for your dollar?> >> > > > > > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
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