[kj] oliver / fox election spin

Brendan bq at soundgardener.co.nz
Fri Nov 7 09:50:10 EST 2008


It is! And there's no moon, it's just the back of the sun.

Also, dog's can't look up.



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> <P>Sadly, a considerable amount of Americans believe the earth is

> flat.</P>

> <P>Alex in NYC<BR><BR><BR></P>

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> <FOLKDEVIL_23 at HOTMAIL.COM><BR>Sent: Nov 6, 2008 3:10 PM <BR>To:

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> </ZZZHEAD><ZZZBODY class=hmmessage>A considerable amount of Americans

> believe Socialism is Communism :/<BR><BR><FONT face="Lucida Handwriting,

> Cursive"><EM>"</EM></FONT><BR><BR>&gt; Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 14:06:18

> -0600<BR>&gt; From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net<BR>&gt; To:

> gathering at misera.net<BR>&gt; Subject: Re: [kj] oliver / fox election

> spin<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; You're asking me?<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; For the same

> reason you had a solid chunk of the GOP base stubbornly <BR>&gt; believing

> Obama was a "SOCIALIST!" because he merely wanted to go back <BR>&gt; to

> the Clinton tax rates. "Socialism" is such a bad smear word in the

> <BR>&gt; US, a frightful bogeyman, and in popular discourse it's lost any

> real <BR>&gt; meaning. It technically means "government (or public)

> ownership of the <BR>&gt; means of production." But to like maybe 1/4 of

> the US population it just <BR>&gt; means "taxes I don't like to pay,"

> which is stupid.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; This 1 hour program, _Frontline: Sick

> Around the World_, is the best <BR>&gt; comparison I have seen between the

> health care systems of the US, <BR>&gt; England, Germany, Taiwan, Japan,

> and Switzerland. It shws how other <BR>&gt; countries can do it and the US

> cannot. (Better than "Sicko.") The makers <BR>&gt; of the documentary went

> out of their way to contrast the US to <BR>&gt; _capitalist

> democracies_:<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;

> http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/sickaroundtheworld/<BR>&gt;

> <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; And, yes, 14% of our GDP goes to heathcare, compared to

> the average of <BR>&gt; 8% of countries in the West who have universal

> health care, and we get <BR>&gt; far worse outcomes, including almost 50

> million lacking health care. <BR>&gt; Japan spends 7% of its GDP and has

> the lngest lifespan, lower infant <BR>&gt; mortality, and everyone is

> covered somehow.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; It makes no sense. But the private

> insurance lobby in the US would not <BR>&gt; have it any other

> way.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; -Oliver<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Brendan

> wrote:<BR>&gt; &gt; So what exactly is up with your healthcare system, why

> do you pay so much<BR>&gt; &gt; over there and still get so little for

> your dollar?<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;

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