[kj] OT: The Venus Project
Brendan Quinn
bq at soundgardener.co.nz
Mon Nov 17 22:45:48 EST 2008
I think me & Ade are arguing tech vs society.
Don't forget technology is a facilitator for society however. Without the
critical mass of people and the survival resiliency that plant & animal
farming, specialisation and division of labour provide (with their inherent
costs of course), it's not really possible to have dedicated classes of
priests, merchants, scribes, philosophers, scientists etc etc. (Probably
Amway salespeople as well).
The internet is going to be hugely impacting in the way it affects society
over time, that's so obvious to see. Want a record, movie, tv show? Steal
it. Want to block access to independent media to your population? Good
like.we'll use onion routing, open web proxies, encryption etc to get around
it.
Those old chestnuts of virtual reality and AI.keep an eye on them.
Cybernetics, nanotech, VR, AI, deeper understanding of physics.they say that
biology will be the physics of the 21st century. Who knows.
Check it out.AI from about 2020-2030 on.computers are going to have the raw
power of the human brain. Average 'desktop' computers, if there's still such
a think. That's a game changer. The 20th century saw massive changes in
lifestyle & standard of living, the 21st. Well who knows what will happen,
but short of massive wars, famine, another dark ages, if technology is
allowed to continue apace, we're in for a real paradigm shift I think.
I mean, this isn't futurist fantasy stuff, it's just a natural extrapolation
of the vector that science has been on for the last 300 + years.
Don't believe that society won't be affected.
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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of folk devil
Sent: Tuesday, 18 November 2008 14:17
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: The Venus Project
Well surveillance and control has advanced quite nicely, ever since PCs went
portable and cell phones became a new appendage.. ;P
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> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 19:56:19 +0000
> From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk
> To: gathering at misera.net
> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: The Venus Project
>
> > I mean look at the difference between 1908 & 2000...light years apart
>
> I'll say it again, eventhough you ignored it the last time. No, they are
not!
>
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