[kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 60, Issue 61

Matthew Ferguson p_ferguson at mindspring.com
Wed Oct 8 11:59:57 EDT 2008


Treponem Pal were supporting Killing Joke because they were the last
band Paul Raven worked with.



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> 1. Re: (OT) Treponem Pal (Colin Bamford)

> 2. live cds (Alexandra Tolksdorf)

> 3. The Mighty Joy Davidson (Change)

> 4. Re: (OT) Treponem Pal (Phillipps Marc)

> 5. Re: (OT) Treponem Pal (Christof hamille)

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> Message: 1

> Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 16:24:00 +0100

> From: Colin Bamford <colin.bamford at works.co.uk>

> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Treponem Pal

> To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke \\(the band!\\)'"

> <gathering at misera.net>

> Message-ID: <fb331b59.1c92959.1baa90b.29 at works.co.uk>

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> On bands that have supported Killing joke i can only think of 2 that

> were any good. Red Lorry yellow lorry ( remember them i think they

> made just one album ) they toured on Brighter thn a thousand suns.

> The other was skunk Anasis ( i think thats how you spell it ) on the

> pandemonium tour.

>

> But you are right about some of the groups must be friends/ bar

> mates.,on the 1991 tour there was a group who were really bad, never

> caught the name and glad i didnt

>

>

> Col

> -----Original Message-----

> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net

> ]On Behalf Of Rheinhold Squeegee

> Sent: 08 October 2008 15:49

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!); 'jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk

> '

> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Treponem Pal

>

>

> God almighty, does anyone remember the Wax Trax band God's Acre that

> opened for KJ back in 1991? Talk about wanting to stab my eardrums

> with knitting needles. And I'm still receiving therapy after being

> subjected to Stabbing Westward five times in 1994.

>

> Speaking of KJ in the states, the shows in NYC and Chicago are going

> to be a switch for me. I've seen them 10 times already, but only in

> Midwestern backwaters like Cleveland, St. Louis and Kansas City, and

> never with more than 200 - 300 people in the crowd, most of whom are

> rubberneckers checking KJ out for their curiousity value. It will be

> good to see them in a larger venue with (hope hope) good-size crowds

> who are actually into the music.

>

> Fingers crossed.

>

>

>

>

>

> From: wessidetempest at hotmail.com

> To: gathering at misera.net; jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk

> Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 10:30:21 -0400

> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Treponem Pal

>

> I have not seen Killing Joke bring a good band yet. And there are

> several ways to think about this

>

> 1. The band is friends/comrades/bar tab mates/etc. and they do not

> pay attention if the band stinks

> 2. Since the bands are usually on the small side they are cheap

> 3. They won't have their own crowd show up.....thus they won't

> upstage Killing Joke.

>

> I'll bet it is a little bit of each. October File, Treponem, Amen,

> Stabbing Westward, all..........are okay.........but if I never hear

> their music my life wouldn't be any less

>

> Chris in Detroit

>

>

>

>

>

> Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 15:14:00 +0100

> From: colin.bamford at works.co.uk

> To: jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk; gathering at misera.net

> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Treponem Pal

>

>

>

> Treponem pal were pretty bad, thought track 3 sounded ok but the

> rest.....Saying that its only Killing Joke i like with that music

> sound, and i cant think of any that really sound like Kj

> -----Original Message-----

> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net

> ]On Behalf Of Jim Harper

> Sent: 08 October 2008 14:56

> To: Gathering

> Subject: [kj] (OT) Treponem Pal

>

>

> Hello!

>

> I don't know how everyone else felt, but I was really impressed by

> Treponem Pal. I heard a few of their tracks way back in the days of

> Raw Power and Noisy Mothers, but nothing since then. However, I

> enjoyed their set immensely. Not a patch on the Joke, but ten times

> better than the crap emaciated Iggy-wannabe that preceded them. Do

> any of the Gatherers have any idea of TP's setlist for their recent

> shows?

>

> Mind you, it's almost impossible to find any of their material on

> the net. Arse!

>

> Jim.

>

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> Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 15:25:39 +0000 (GMT)

> From: Alexandra Tolksdorf <a.tolksdorf at yahoo.co.uk>

> Subject: [kj] live cds

> To: gathering at misera.net

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> Someona asked for someone to get him the live cds.

> Has that been sorted yet?

>

> ~Alexandra.

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> Message: 3

> Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 15:40:23 +0000 (GMT)

> From: Change <crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk>

> Subject: [kj] The Mighty Joy Davidson

> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)"

> <gathering at misera.net>

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>

> Sheesh you mean Joy Division were no good?

> I rather liked Treponem Pal but the singer of selfish Cunt was a bit

> annoying.

>

>

>> On bands that have supported Killing joke i can only think

>> of 2 that were any good. Red Lorry yellow lorry ( remember

>> them i think they made just one album ) they toured on

>> Brighter thn a thousand suns. The other was skunk Anasis ( i

>> think thats how you spell it ) on the pandemonium tour.

>>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------

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> Message: 4

> Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 16:41:38 +0100

> From: "Phillipps Marc" <Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk>

> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Treponem Pal

> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)"

> <gathering at misera.net>

> Message-ID:

> <BD60B2A89D16094897629D4CCC50B1CB3A479E at ED01VN01.NCL-HIS.NHS.UK>

> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

>

> 91 tour?

>

>

>

> Dr Phibes & The House of Wax Equations?

>

>

>

> They were kicked off after Reading (I think?) and replaced by

> Swervedriver

>

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net

> ]

> On Behalf Of Colin Bamford

> Sent: 08 October 2008 16:24

> To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)'

> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Treponem Pal

>

>

>

> On bands that have supported Killing joke i can only think of 2 that

> were any good. Red Lorry yellow lorry ( remember them i think they

> made

> just one album ) they toured on Brighter thn a thousand suns. The

> other

> was skunk Anasis ( i think thats how you spell it ) on the pandemonium

> tour.

>

>

>

> But you are right about some of the groups must be friends/ bar

> mates.,on the 1991 tour there was a group who were really bad, never

> caught the name and glad i didnt

>

>

>

>

>

> Col

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net

> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Rheinhold Squeegee

> Sent: 08 October 2008 15:49

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!);

> 'jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk'

> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Treponem Pal

>

> God almighty, does anyone remember the Wax Trax band God's Acre

> that opened for KJ back in 1991? Talk about wanting to stab my

> eardrums

> with knitting needles. And I'm still receiving therapy after being

> subjected to Stabbing Westward five times in 1994.

>

> Speaking of KJ in the states, the shows in NYC and Chicago are

> going to be a switch for me. I've seen them 10 times already, but only

> in Midwestern backwaters like Cleveland, St. Louis and Kansas City,

> and

> never with more than 200 - 300 people in the crowd, most of whom are

> rubberneckers checking KJ out for their curiousity value. It will be

> good to see them in a larger venue with (hope hope) good-size crowds

> who

> are actually into the music.

>

> Fingers crossed.

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

>

>

>

> From: wessidetempest at hotmail.com

> To: gathering at misera.net; jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk

> Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 10:30:21 -0400

> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Treponem Pal

>

> I have not seen Killing Joke bring a good band yet. And there

> are several ways to think about this

>

> 1. The band is friends/comrades/bar tab mates/etc. and they do

> not pay attention if the band stinks

> 2. Since the bands are usually on the small side they are cheap

> 3. They won't have their own crowd show up.....thus they won't

> upstage Killing Joke.

>

> I'll bet it is a little bit of each. October File, Treponem,

> Amen, Stabbing Westward, all..........are okay.........but if I never

> hear their music my life wouldn't be any less

>

> Chris in Detroit

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

>

>

>

> Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 15:14:00 +0100

> From: colin.bamford at works.co.uk

> To: jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk; gathering at misera.net

> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Treponem Pal

>

>

>

> Treponem pal were pretty bad, thought track 3 sounded ok but the

> rest.....Saying that its only Killing Joke i like with that music

> sound,

> and i cant think of any that really sound like Kj

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net

> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Jim Harper

> Sent: 08 October 2008 14:56

> To: Gathering

> Subject: [kj] (OT) Treponem Pal

>

> Hello!

>

>

>

> I don't know how everyone else felt, but I was really impressed by

> Treponem Pal. I heard a few of their tracks way back in the days of

> Raw

> Power and Noisy Mothers, but nothing since then. However, I enjoyed

> their set immensely. Not a patch on the Joke, but ten times better

> than

> the crap emaciated Iggy-wannabe that preceded them. Do any of the

> Gatherers have any idea of TP's setlist for their recent shows?

>

>

>

> Mind you, it's almost impossible to find any of their material on the

> net. Arse!

>

>

>

> Jim.

>

> NOW AVAILABLE: Flowers From Hell: The Modern Japanese Horror Film, by

> Jim Harper (Noir Publishing).

>

> "Fascinating overview of the Japanese horror boom... Comprehensive,

> in-depth and slickly presented."- DVD Monthly.

>

> Available from Noir Publishing, Amazon.co.uk, Waterstones and all good

> bookstores.

>

>

>

>

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> Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 11:44:05 -0400

> From: Christof hamille <wessidetempest at hotmail.com>

> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Treponem Pal

> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"

> <gathering at misera.net>, "'jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk'"

> <jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk>

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>

> And I hate to say it but I think a lot of it had to do with Raven.

> He seemed so sociable. Motley Crue I don't think would have ever

> happened if it weren't for Paul.

>

> RIP

>

> Chris

>

> From: kjlist at live.com

> To: gathering at misera.net; jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk

> Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 09:49:01 -0500

> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Treponem Pal

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> God almighty, does anyone remember the Wax Trax band God's Acre that

> opened for KJ back in 1991? Talk about wanting to stab my eardrums

> with knitting needles. And I'm still receiving therapy after being

> subjected to Stabbing Westward five times in 1994.

>

>

>

> Speaking of KJ in the states, the shows in NYC and Chicago are going

> to be a switch for me. I've seen them 10 times already, but only in

> Midwestern backwaters like Cleveland, St. Louis and Kansas City, and

> never with more than 200 - 300 people in the crowd, most of whom are

> rubberneckers checking KJ out for their curiousity value. It will be

> good to see them in a larger venue with (hope hope) good-size crowds

> who are actually into the music.

>

>

>

> Fingers crossed.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> From: wessidetempest at hotmail.com

> To: gathering at misera.net; jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk

> Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 10:30:21 -0400

> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Treponem Pal

>

>

>

>

> I have not seen Killing Joke bring a good band yet. And there are

> several ways to think about this

>

> 1. The band is friends/comrades/bar tab mates/etc. and they do not

> pay attention if the band stinks

> 2. Since the bands are usually on the small side they are cheap

> 3. They won't have their own crowd show up.....thus they won't

> upstage Killing Joke.

>

> I'll bet it is a little bit of each. October File, Treponem, Amen,

> Stabbing Westward, all..........are okay.........but if I never hear

> their music my life wouldn't be any less

>

> Chris in Detroit

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 15:14:00 +0100

> From: colin.bamford at works.co.uk

> To: jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk; gathering at misera.net

> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Treponem Pal

>

>

>

> Treponem pal were pretty bad, thought track 3 sounded ok but the

> rest.....Saying that its only Killing Joke i like with that music

> sound, and i cant think of any that really sound like Kj

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net

> ]On Behalf Of Jim Harper

> Sent: 08 October 2008 14:56

> To: Gathering

> Subject: [kj] (OT) Treponem Pal

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Hello!

>

> I don't know how everyone else felt, but I was really impressed by

> Treponem Pal. I heard a few of their tracks way back in the days of

> Raw Power and Noisy Mothers, but nothing since then. However, I

> enjoyed their set immensely. Not a patch on the Joke, but ten times

> better than the crap emaciated Iggy-wannabe that preceded them. Do

> any of the Gatherers have any idea of TP's setlist for their recent

> shows?

>

> Mind you, it's almost impossible to find any of their material on

> the net. Arse!

>

> Jim.

>

> NOW AVAILABLE: Flowers From Hell: The Modern Japanese Horror Film,

> by Jim Harper (Noir Publishing).

>

> "Fascinating overview of the Japanese horror boom... Comprehensive,

> in-depth and slickly presented."- DVD Monthly.

>

> Available from Noir Publishing, Amazon.co.uk, Waterstones and all

> good bookstores.

>

> Note:

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