[kj] Timewave, November Novelty

[Brendan]

I remember some time ago we discussed the research that was coming out
leading to the conclusion that bullshitting kids with constant good press
for effort was actually detrimental, they could see through it. Being
taken aside and spoken to, or shown up in front of the class for effort,
is not what most kids are into. What kids generally want when they can't
do something as well as others is a chance to improve themselves, cos they
know as soon as they hit the school yard the other kids aren't going to
sugar coat things like teacher or Mum does. Kids are brutal little fuckers
for pointing out weakness :)


> That's telling 'em!

>

> Cheers,

>

> k.w.

>   ----- Original Message -----

>   From: Bob Barathy

>   To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>   Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 10:12 AM

>   Subject: Re: [kj] Timewave, November Novelty

>

>

>   My 10 year old daughters school has no losers.

>   Everyones a winner!

>   Bollocks I tell her. You go out there and beat their arses.

>   Comin' second=first loser.

>   Don't you come home unless you win at everything and don't want to hear

> no excuses! :)

>

>   boBToo

>   www.killingjoke.co.uk

>   www.teamkinetic.co.uk

>   www.bobtoo.co.uk

>     -----Original Message-----

>     From: gathering-bounces at misera.net

> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of The Exorcist

>     Sent: 21 October 2008 17:48

>     To: joker at Z6.com; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>     Subject: Re: [kj] Timewave, November Novelty

>

>

>     To the Esteemed Mr. Arse:

>     You're still a saint compared to my dad!

>

>     It sorta scares the shit out of me how all these schools and educators

>     are trying to eliminate competitive sports and even go the extremes of

>     banning tag, and LEGO... yes even LEGO.

>

>     George Carlin (rip), on his last HBO stand up went on about this.

>

>     "Grade school, where he won't be allowed to play tag because it

> promotes victimization... Standing around is still permitted, but it

> won't be for long. because sooner or later some kid is gonna be

> standing around, and his foot will fall asleep, and his parents will

> sue the school, and it's fucking good-bye fucking standing around."

> -George Carlin

>

>     "You know what they tell the kid who lost these days? 'You were the

> last winner.' A lot of kinds never get to hear the truth about

> themselves until they're in their twenties, when their boss calls them

> in and says, Bobby, clean the shit out of your desk and get the fuck

> out of here, you're a loser."-George Carlin

>

>     Yos

>

>     At 12:24 PM 10/21/2008, Rob's Arse wrote:

>

>       So, if we all lose, we will all be winners in the end? Because we'll

> all be happy and catered for and that, to me sounds like winning.

>

>       So if we're all winners by losing we all become takers by default.

>

>       Can you see where this is going??

>

>

>       On my desk is a badge my son made for me when he was 5. It says "you

> are a winner".

>

>       What he's actually saying is "you're a loser Dad".

>

>       That's his pocket money stopped then........!

>

>       www.iamscuzzy.com www.myspace.com/scuzzywear

>

>       --- killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com wrote:

>

>       From: The Exorcist <killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com>

>       To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"

> <gathering at misera.net>

>       Subject: Re: [kj] Timewave, November Novelty

>       Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 12:11:59 -0400

>

>       Use Shitake! :)

>

>       At 06:10 AM 10/21/2008, Brendan wrote:

>

>

>         Anyway, if something else big does happen in Nov then I'm gonna

> stop

>

>         reading the financial papers and start taking shrooms. Probably a

> good

>

>         life plan regardless ;)

>

>

>         > interesting stuff happens all the time!

>

>         > i think the idea is mainly bollox, not enough black and white

> data to make

>

>         > it failsafe for me - and i believe all sorts of crazy shit!

>

>

>       Competition is a barbaric, insensitive ritual that reeks of social

> Darwinism.

>       We cannot allow the fittest to survive on our pages. Your loss is

> someone

>       else's gain, and your gain is someone else's loss. Therefore, losers

> contribute

>       to the society and winners take away from it. Being a winner is

> unethical, while

>       a society of losers is happy and striving as a collective. In the

> spirit of diversity,

>       inclusiveness, and collectivism our contests shall have no winners.

>       Everyone is declared a loser, which in our book means an ethical

> team player.

>

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