[kj] OT - List of books Sarah Palin wanted banned

[The Exorcist]

Possibly I did. Could be that I read something 
into your E-mail while you read into
my email which was read into by Alex... Boy am I getting dizzy!

And I didn't call you one sided, I was referring 
to the Palin trashing on the list (and the media) which was one sided.



At 03:58 PM 9/7/2008, ade wrote:

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>You're not getting it mate - I wasn't being 

>one-sided at all. You're reading something into my mails.

>-----Original Message-----

>From: gathering-bounces at misera.net 

>[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of The Exorcist

>Sent: 07 September 2008 20:14

>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>Subject: Re: [kj] OT - List of books Sarah Palin wanted banned

>

>Then let it stand at that. Not just be one sided. :)

>

>Cheers,

>Me

>

>At 02:55 PM 9/7/2008, ade wrote:

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>>The point is that they're as bad as each other mate.

>>-----Original Message-----

>>From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ 

>>mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Alexander Smith

>>Sent: 07 September 2008 17:15

>>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>>Subject: Re: [kj] OT - List of books Sarah Palin wanted banned

>>

>>" I find it sad that the people who claim to be 

>>"liberal" would go and shut down and shout down 

>>anyone who doesn't agree with them."

>>What exactly do you think the 

>>Right/Conservative/Republicans are doing? 

>>Sitting quietly with the fingers entwined?

>>Alex in NYC

>>

>>On Sep 7, 2008, at 8:28 AM, ade wrote:

>>

>>> > Though in all honesty... I think it goes 

>>> beyond republican/democrat left/right. I was 

>>> always pro free speech & transparency. I find 

>>> it sad that the people who claim to be 

>>> "liberal" would go and shut down and shout 

>>> down anyone who doesn't agree with them.

>>>

>>>Spot-on. This is the truth of free speech - 

>>>the chosen 'enemy' should have as much right 

>>>to spout their utterances as the chosen 'heroes'.

>>>

>>>Sadly, this is how Hitler got in.

>>>

>>>Back when the Greeks began voting, at the dawn 

>>>of democracy (lol), did they not vote for war time & time again?

>>>

>>>

>>>-----Original Message-----

>>>From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ 

>>>mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of The Exorcist

>>>Sent: 07 September 2008 00:26

>>>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>>>Subject: Re: [kj] OT - List of books Sarah Palin wanted banned

>>>

>>>I guess some things can't be explained ehhh? 

>>>LOL (Also a big SWANS fan amongst many many other bands.

>>>Music and books are my life. I guess I just 

>>>enjoy and can understand and relate to free expression in its many

>>>various forms.)

>>>Though in all honesty... I think it goes 

>>>beyond republican/democrat left/right.

>>>I was always pro free speech & transparency. I 

>>>find it sad that the people who claim to be "liberal" would

>>>go and shut down and shout down anyone who doesn't agree with them.

>>>(How many times have you seen a right wing or 

>>>conservative speaker being shouted down by lefties when invited

>>>to speak at a University?) When people feel 

>>>the need to disrupt someone's speech (Code Pink at the RNC?).

>>>I understand that people are different and I 

>>>respect it. I don't force my views on anyone and am more than willing

>>>to agree to disagree. More importantly, I will 

>>>always fight and support free Speech no matter to whom it applies!

>>>

>>>Cheers,

>>>Me

>>>Have a great weekend and hope the rain is gone by tomorrow.

>>>

>>>At 07:02 PM 9/6/2008, Alexander Smith wrote:

>>>>It always amazes me how Yos the Exorcist can 

>>>>be such a die-hard Republican and a die-hard 

>>>>Killing Joke fan at the same time. To my 

>>>>mind, they cancel each other out -- but then, 

>>>>I'm a proudly liberal lefty and still a Kiss 

>>>>fan, so I guess it's the same contradiction.

>>>>Alex in NYC

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>On Sep 6, 2008, at 6:52 PM, The Exorcist wrote:

>>>>

>>>>>Yeah, just like saying that it wasn't her 

>>>>>child but her daughters. Truth doesn't matter. All you

>>>>>have to do is talk shit and make enough of a 

>>>>>ruckus that people believe it.

>>>>>Speaking on the banning of things and 

>>>>>restriction of free speech let's look at Sir Obama's record.

>>>>>

>>>>>http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0808/12816.html

>>>>>Sen. Barack Obama has launched an all-out 

>>>>>effort to block a Republican billionaire’s efforts to tie him

>>>>>to domestic and foreign terrorists in a wave of negative television ads.

>>>>>

>>>>>Obama’s campaign has written the Department 

>>>>>of Justice demanding a criminal 

>>>>>investigation of the “American Issues Project,”

>>>>>the vehicle through which Dallas investor 

>>>>>Harold Simmons is financing the advertisements. The Obama campaign ­ and tens

>>>>>of thousands of supporters ­ also is 

>>>>>pressuring television networks and affiliates to reject the ads.

>>>>>OR... 

>>>>>http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/08/obama_campaign_confronts_wgn_r.html 

>>>>>

>>>>>(the above link is just a small snippet... 

>>>>>there are much more detailed ones out there)

>>>>>The fact that Obama tried to have Stanley 

>>>>>Kurtz thrown off the air for talking about the "Chicago Annenberg Challenge".

>>>>>"The magazine had been blocked in its 

>>>>>initial attempts to obtain records from the 

>>>>>University of Illinois at Chicago regarding

>>>>>a school reform initiative called the 

>>>>>Chicago Annenberg Challenge, which Obama chaired and Ayers co-founded.

>>>>>

>>>>>Obama critics were quick to suggest that 

>>>>>political clout could be involved in seeking 

>>>>>to protect Obama from embarrassment.

>>>>>The school later reserved its position and 

>>>>>made the records available Tuesday."

>>>>>So first they have the University block 

>>>>>access to the files. Then they threaten, 

>>>>>flood and go after the radio station that will give Stanley

>>>>>a stage to talk at. BRAVO!!! Way to go!

>>>>>At least the Radio station offered the Obama 

>>>>>campaign to come on the show to discuss/refute what Stanley says (The Obama

>>>>>campaign declined.

>>>>>The ones throwing shit at Palin don't 

>>>>>provide that opportunity. While Stanley 

>>>>>Kurtz and the Ad campaign (correct or incorrect)

>>>>>stated info based on Obama's past 

>>>>>associations the shit thrown at Palin is pulled out of thin air.

>>>>>Funny thing is, Palin isn't running to the 

>>>>>DOJ or sending out mass Emails telling people to wreak havoc.

>>>>>Sincerely,

>>>>>Me

>>>>>

>>>>>At 05:12 PM 9/6/2008, fluke fluke wrote:

>>>>>>I dont see how you can judge a person  on 

>>>>>>the basis of when they first got their passport .

>>>>>>Also she didn't ban any books  whilst she was Mayor she just ............

>>>>>>"Palin herself, questioned at the time, 

>>>>>>called her inquiries rhetorical and simply 

>>>>>>part of a policy discussion with a 

>>>>>>department head "about understanding and 

>>>>>>following administration agendas," according to the Frontiersman article."

>>>>>>    I abhor these Left Wing smear 

>>>>>> campaigns, they are dishonest , deceitful 

>>>>>> and they distort the democratic process .

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> > From: <mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net>vassifer at earthlink.net

>>>>>> > To: <mailto:gathering at misera.net>gathering at misera.net

>>>>>> > Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 16:57:34 -0400

>>>>>> > Subject: Re: [kj] OT - List of books Sarah Palin wanted banned

>>>>>> >

>>>>>> >

>>>>>> > Like I said, it certainly fits her profile, though I'd be damn

>>>>>> > surprised if she's even HEART of HALF of 

>>>>>> these books (woman didn't get

>>>>>> > her first passport until 2007, for cryin' out loud).

>>>>>> >

>>>>>> > More to the point though: Regardless of 

>>>>>> title, the banning of ANY book

>>>>>> > is completely fucked up.

>>>>>> >

>>>>>> > May she rot.

>>>>>> >

>>>>>> > Alex in NYC

>>>>>> >

>>>>>> >

>>>>>> >

>>>>>> > On Sep 6, 2008, at 4:22 PM, B. Oliver Sheppard wrote:

>>>>>> >

>>>>>> > > Wow, I know she had some deal with the library, and I hate this

>>>>>> > > evil, hypocritical version of Tina 

>>>>>> Fey, but is that list accurate. I

>>>>>> > > mean, LYSISTRATA? Banned?

>>>>>> > >

>>>>>> > > Part of me wouldn't doubt it -- but part of me insists on a

>>>>>> > > snopes.com check.

>>>>>> > >

>>>>>> > > -Oliver

>>>>>> > >

>>>>>> > > <mailto:LONESTYLE at aol.com>LONESTYLE at aol.com wrote:

>>>>>> > >> Check this one out...

>>>>>> > >> ~LB

>>>>>> > >>

>>>>>> > >

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>Competition is a barbaric, insensitive ritual that reeks of social Darwinism.

>We cannot allow the fittest to survive on our pages. Your loss is someone

>else's gain, and your gain is someone else's 

>loss. Therefore, losers contribute

>to the society and winners take away from it. 

>Being a winner is unethical, while

>a society of losers is happy and striving as a 

>collective. In the spirit of diversity,

>inclusiveness, and collectivism our contests shall have no winners.

>Everyone is declared a loser, which in our book means an ethical team player.

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Competition is a barbaric, insensitive ritual that reeks of social Darwinism.
We cannot allow the fittest to survive on our pages. Your loss is someone
else's gain, and your gain is someone else's loss. Therefore, losers contribute
to the society and winners take away from it. 
Being a winner is unethical, while
a society of losers is happy and striving as a 
collective. In the spirit of diversity,
inclusiveness, and collectivism our contests shall have no winners.
Everyone is declared a loser, which in our book means an ethical team player.  
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