[kj] OT - Throwing a Bone to the Exorcist
Alexander Smith
vassifer at earthlink.net
Sun Sep 7 18:06:20 EDT 2008
Here ya go....
http://vassifer.blogs.com/alexinnyc/2008/09/where-does-she-find-the-time.html
Vote Killing Joke!
Alex in NYC
On Sep 7, 2008, at 5:43 PM, The Exorcist wrote:
> But... What does that have anything to do with blatant lies written
> about her?
>
> If you want to attack something she said or did, fine. But to pull
> shit out of thin
> air and claim it as fact is acceptable?
>
> Let's see... Alex writes on his blog...
> "This was just passed onto me by one of the good folks over at The
> Gathering.
> I don't vouch for its legitimacy, but it certainly fits the profile.
> Shrill conservative
> harpee Michelle Malkin says it's not true, but she's not exactly a
> bastion of free
> thinking herself. See what ya think. "
>
> First off it's not only Michelle that has debunked it. Second Alex
> KNOWS it's not true but writes
> "I don't vouch for its legitimacy" and tries to give it some sort of
> Pseudo credence even though
> it's a blatant outright lie.
>
> I'm deeply disappointed.
>
> It seems as long as you don't like someone you can say anything you
> damn well want and it's acceptable.
> *shrug* So much for integrity...
>
> And Alex, that lovely moveon.org counter. A blatant rip off of the
> counter about Obama not going to Iraq.
> But seeing that Obama has avoided any tough interviews and only went
> to hosts and "journalists" that
> kiss his ass I really wouldn't be so gung-ho about that. Not to
> mention that he's scared shitless of doing
> townhall style debates with McCain. Really is that something you
> want to bring up?
>
> Cheers,
> Me
>
>
>
>
> At 05:14 PM 9/7/2008, ade wrote:
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>> That first line made my head spin!
>>
>> Anyways, personally that footage of her going on about g0ds work in
>> Iraq is guaranteed to make me repel from her - she's like one of
>> those fucking lizards in V ! Now she's onboard, I find the whole
>> idea of a republican government much more scary than just McStain -
>> seriously, she seems the sort of nutfuck that would start shit off.
>> Her inclusion really makes Obummer a much more attractive canditate
>> to *my* eyes. So my own trashing of her is borne of fear, not agenda!
>>
>> I have an image in my mind of Obummer reaching into his hair &
>> unzipping his disguise only for Satan to step out of it, hooves and
>> all. "Fooled ya!"
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net
>> ]On Behalf Of The Exorcist
>> Sent: 07 September 2008 21:38
>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
>> Subject: Re: [kj] OT - List of books Sarah Palin wanted banned
>>
>> Possibly I did. Could be that I read something into your E-mail
>> while you read into
>> my email which was read into by Alex... Boy am I getting dizzy!
>>
>> And I didn't call you one sided, I was referring to the Palin
>> trashing on the list (and the media) which was one sided.
>>
>>
>>
>> At 03:58 PM 9/7/2008, ade wrote:
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>>> You're not getting it mate - I wasn't being one-sided at all.
>>> You're reading something into my mails.
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net
>>> ]On Behalf Of The Exorcist
>>> Sent: 07 September 2008 20:14
>>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
>>> Subject: Re: [kj] OT - List of books Sarah Palin wanted banned
>>>
>>> Then let it stand at that. Not just be one sided. :)
>>> Cheers,
>>> Me
>>> At 02:55 PM 9/7/2008, ade wrote:
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>>>> The point is that they're as bad as each other mate.
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net
>>>> ]On Behalf Of Alexander Smith
>>>> Sent: 07 September 2008 17:15
>>>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] OT - List of books Sarah Palin wanted banned
>>>>
>>>> " I find it sad that the people who claim to be "liberal" would
>>>> go and shut down and shout down anyone who doesn't agree with
>>>> them."
>>>> What exactly do you think the Right/Conservative/Republicans are
>>>> doing? Sitting quietly with the fingers entwined?
>>>> Alex in NYC
>>>> On Sep 7, 2008, at 8:28 AM, ade wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> > Though in all honesty... I think it goes beyond republican/
>>>>> democrat left/right. I was always pro free speech &
>>>>> transparency. I find it sad that the people who claim to be
>>>>> "liberal" would go and shut down and shout down anyone who
>>>>> doesn't agree with them.
>>>>> Spot-on. This is the truth of free speech - the chosen 'enemy'
>>>>> should have as much right to spout their utterances as the
>>>>> chosen 'heroes'.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sadly, this is how Hitler got in.
>>>>>
>>>>> Back when the Greeks began voting, at the dawn of democracy
>>>>> (lol), did they not vote for war time & time again?
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net
>>>>> ]On Behalf Of The Exorcist
>>>>> Sent: 07 September 2008 00:26
>>>>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
>>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] OT - List of books Sarah Palin wanted banned
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess some things can't be explained ehhh? LOL (Also a big
>>>>> SWANS fan amongst many many other bands.
>>>>> Music and books are my life. I guess I just enjoy and can
>>>>> understand and relate to free expression in its many
>>>>> various forms.)
>>>>> Though in all honesty... I think it goes beyond republican/
>>>>> democrat left/right.
>>>>> I was always pro free speech & transparency. I find it sad that
>>>>> the people who claim to be "liberal" would
>>>>> go and shut down and shout down anyone who doesn't agree with
>>>>> them.
>>>>> (How many times have you seen a right wing or conservative
>>>>> speaker being shouted down by lefties when invited
>>>>> to speak at a University?) When people feel the need to disrupt
>>>>> someone's speech (Code Pink at the RNC?).
>>>>> I understand that people are different and I respect it. I don't
>>>>> force my views on anyone and am more than willing
>>>>> to agree to disagree. More importantly, I will always fight and
>>>>> support free Speech no matter to whom it applies!
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Me
>>>>> Have a great weekend and hope the rain is gone by tomorrow.
>>>>> At 07:02 PM 9/6/2008, Alexander Smith wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It always amazes me how Yos the Exorcist can be such a die-hard
>>>>>> Republican and a die-hard Killing Joke fan at the same time. To
>>>>>> my mind, they cancel each other out -- but then, I'm a proudly
>>>>>> liberal lefty and still a Kiss fan, so I guess it's the same
>>>>>> contradiction.
>>>>>> Alex in NYC
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sep 6, 2008, at 6:52 PM, The Exorcist wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yeah, just like saying that it wasn't her child but her
>>>>>>> daughters. Truth doesn't matter. All you
>>>>>>> have to do is talk shit and make enough of a ruckus that
>>>>>>> people believe it.
>>>>>>> Speaking on the banning of things and restriction of free
>>>>>>> speech let's look at Sir Obama's record.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0808/12816.html
>>>>>>> Sen. Barack Obama has launched an all-out effort to block a
>>>>>>> Republican billionaire’s efforts to tie him
>>>>>>> to domestic and foreign terrorists in a wave of negative
>>>>>>> television ads.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Obama’s campaign has written the Department of Justice
>>>>>>> demanding a criminal investigation of the “American Issues
>>>>>>> Project,”
>>>>>>> the vehicle through which Dallas investor Harold Simmons is
>>>>>>> financing the advertisements. The Obama campaign and tens
>>>>>>> of thousands of supporters also is pressuring television
>>>>>>> networks and affiliates to reject the ads.
>>>>>>> OR... http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/08/obama_campaign_confronts_wgn_r.html
>>>>>>> (the above link is just a small snippet... there are much more
>>>>>>> detailed ones out there)
>>>>>>> The fact that Obama tried to have Stanley Kurtz thrown off the
>>>>>>> air for talking about the "Chicago Annenberg Challenge".
>>>>>>> "The magazine had been blocked in its initial attempts to
>>>>>>> obtain records from the University of Illinois at Chicago
>>>>>>> regarding
>>>>>>> a school reform initiative called the Chicago Annenberg
>>>>>>> Challenge, which Obama chaired and Ayers co-founded.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Obama critics were quick to suggest that political clout could
>>>>>>> be involved in seeking to protect Obama from embarrassment.
>>>>>>> The school later reserved its position and made the records
>>>>>>> available Tuesday."
>>>>>>> So first they have the University block access to the files.
>>>>>>> Then they threaten, flood and go after the radio station that
>>>>>>> will give Stanley
>>>>>>> a stage to talk at. BRAVO!!! Way to go!
>>>>>>> At least the Radio station offered the Obama campaign to come
>>>>>>> on the show to discuss/refute what Stanley says (The Obama
>>>>>>> campaign declined.
>>>>>>> The ones throwing shit at Palin don't provide that
>>>>>>> opportunity. While Stanley Kurtz and the Ad campaign (correct
>>>>>>> or incorrect)
>>>>>>> stated info based on Obama's past associations the shit thrown
>>>>>>> at Palin is pulled out of thin air.
>>>>>>> Funny thing is, Palin isn't running to the DOJ or sending out
>>>>>>> mass Emails telling people to wreak havoc.
>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>> Me
>>>>>>> At 05:12 PM 9/6/2008, fluke fluke wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I dont see how you can judge a person on the basis of when
>>>>>>>> they first got their passport .
>>>>>>>> Also she didn't ban any books whilst she was Mayor she
>>>>>>>> just ............
>>>>>>>> "Palin herself, questioned at the time, called her inquiries
>>>>>>>> rhetorical and simply part of a policy discussion with a
>>>>>>>> department head "about understanding and following
>>>>>>>> administration agendas," according to the Frontiersman
>>>>>>>> article."
>>>>>>>> I abhor these Left Wing smear campaigns, they are
>>>>>>>> dishonest , deceitful and they distort the democratic process .
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > From: vassifer at earthlink.net
>>>>>>>> > To: gathering at misera.net
>>>>>>>> > Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 16:57:34 -0400
>>>>>>>> > Subject: Re: [kj] OT - List of books Sarah Palin wanted
>>>>>>>> banned
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Like I said, it certainly fits her profile, though I'd be
>>>>>>>> damn
>>>>>>>> > surprised if she's even HEART of HALF of these books (woman
>>>>>>>> didn't get
>>>>>>>> > her first passport until 2007, for cryin' out loud).
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > More to the point though: Regardless of title, the banning
>>>>>>>> of ANY book
>>>>>>>> > is completely fucked up.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > May she rot.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Alex in NYC
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > On Sep 6, 2008, at 4:22 PM, B. Oliver Sheppard wrote:
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > > Wow, I know she had some deal with the library, and I
>>>>>>>> hate this
>>>>>>>> > > evil, hypocritical version of Tina Fey, but is that list
>>>>>>>> accurate. I
>>>>>>>> > > mean, LYSISTRATA? Banned?
>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>> > > Part of me wouldn't doubt it -- but part of me insists on a
>>>>>>>> > > snopes.com check.
>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>> > > -Oliver
>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>> > > LONESTYLE at aol.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> > >> Check this one out...
>>>>>>>> > >> ~LB
>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>> > >
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>> We cannot allow the fittest to survive on our pages. Your loss is
>> someone
>> else's gain, and your gain is someone else's loss. Therefore,
>> losers contribute
>> to the society and winners take away from it. Being a winner is
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>> a society of losers is happy and striving as a collective. In the
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> Competition is a barbaric, insensitive ritual that reeks of social
> Darwinism.
> We cannot allow the fittest to survive on our pages. Your loss is
> someone
> else's gain, and your gain is someone else's loss. Therefore, losers
> contribute
> to the society and winners take away from it. Being a winner is
> unethical, while
> a society of losers is happy and striving as a collective. In the
> spirit of diversity,
> inclusiveness, and collectivism our contests shall have no winners.
> Everyone is declared a loser, which in our book means an ethical
> team player.
>
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