[kj] (OT)Why haven't the Left got Georgia on their minds?

[Karen Weil]

Well, howdy doody! ; )

k.w.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: jpwhkj at aol.com 
  To: gathering at misera.net 
  Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 4:45 PM
  Subject: Re: [kj] (OT)Why haven't the Left got Georgia on their minds?



  Karen: of course I'm not going to think about it. :-)


  -----Original Message-----
  From: Karen Weil <karen.weil at sddt.com>
  To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
  Sent: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 22:51
  Subject: Re: [kj] (OT)Why haven't the Left got Georgia on their minds?


  Bravo, Oliver: 
   
  Great response. You said it better than I ever could have. Just hope jpwhkj reads it and thinks about it. 
   
  k.w. 
  ----- Original Message ----- From: "B. Oliver Sheppard" <bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net> 
  To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net> 
  Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 2:02 PM 
  Subject: Re: [kj] (OT)Why haven't the Left got Georgia on their minds? 
   
  > WAYYYY different circumstances and a way different political climate. 
  > 
  > Again, this just reflects the lingering, weird old residue of Cold War > thinking that says Putin is basically Brezhnez, or something, and whatever > Russia does now is done in the name of Communist Imperialism. The > reflexively anti-Russian conservative base in the USA seems to > masochistically WANT to think that Russia is motivated by old Cold War > imperatives. That they might actually be protecting ethnic Russians a mere > 100 miles outside their own borders seems to be off the table, an absurd > idea. It's as if the old Cold War USSR had landed troops inside England in > the 1960s. That's way different than defending Ossetians from a Georgian > offensive. 
  > 
  > It's amazing otherwise sensible people can't comprehend this, especially > when they have no opinion (it seems) on Poland agreeing to host US > missiles in their borders right beside Russia's border. Imagine Russia > made a deal with Canada to host missiles beside Michigan? The hue and cry > would be ceaseless in the US media. But Russia protecting ethnic Russian > folks 100 miles outside their own border? What bullies they are!! How > imperialistic! They must be castigated! 
  > 
  > Give me a break. 
  > 
  > -Oliver 
  > 
  > 
  > jpwhkj at aol.com wrote: 
  >> Presumably you think JFK's "ich bin ein Berliner" was also stupid? 
  >> 
  >> 
  >> -----Original Message----- 
  >> From: Karen Weil <karen.weil at sddt.com> 
  >> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) >> <gathering at misera.net> 
  >> Sent: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 19:20 
  >> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT)Why haven't the Left got Georgia on their minds? 
  >> 
  >> McCain's comment was one of the most stupid things I've ever heard >> uttered by a pol. And that's saying something. No, McCain -- I'm an >> AMERICAN, thank you very much. K.W. 
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