[kj] palin ban

[Alexander Smith]

"The right wing talk shows never called him a radical Muslim and it  
wasn't a focal point."

..... and with that, the heaving burden of accuracy and credibility  
left Yos' shoulders with a mighty WHOOOOSH.

Come on out of your cave.

Alex in NYC



On Sep 8, 2008, at 10:12 PM, The Exorcist wrote:


> He's not a Muslim his father had Muslim roots and left it. He went to

> school in Jakarta that had some Muslim studies (Christian as well).

> The right wing talk shows never called him a radical Muslim and it  

> wasn't a focal point.

>

> Mitt Romney was looked into and attacked for his Mormonism, Huckabee  

> was attacked

> and looked into for his Evangelical beliefs. Obama was no different,  

> and mind you it was

> the right wing ppl. that made more of a brouaha with Romney &  

> Huckabee. It wasn't a

> singular thing with Obama. It seems to me they did the same across  

> the whole damn board.

>

> Like Obama's recent gaffe when he said in an interview "My Muslim  

> roots".

> Some wacko's made a big deal out of it. I found those who made any  

> inference of

> that pathetic. It was a slip of the tongue and could happen to  

> anyone. Most ppl.

> just found it funny and laughed it off.

> --------

>

> About killing babies... I haven't heard him being called a baby  

> killer yet and would never

> say it but he did vote against the "Born Alive Infant Protection Act  

> ".

>

> Once the child has been expelled from the mothers womb after a botched

> abortion and the child is alive it was ok to deny medical care and  

> let the

> infant expire.

> (I'm pro abortion but I can see how people would find something very  

> wrong that.)

> --------

>

> He has had associations with Bill Ayers and was on the board of the  

> Chicago Annenberg Challenge.

> A foundation founded by Bill Ayers.

>

> When Obama was questioned about his associations he said Ayers is "a  

> guy who lives in my neighborhood"

> and “not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis.”  

> Which prompted more scrutiny and that's

> when they went for the Annenberg papers (which they tried to block).

>

> In 1995 Ayers hosted a fund-raiser for Obama prior to Obama’s run  

> for Alice Palmer’s seat in the state Senate.

> They both served on the board of the charitable Woods Fund of  

> Chicago from 1999 to 2002.

>

> The same way you judge Palin by the holly roller church she goes to,  

> they judge Obama on his church, associations

> (like they did with Pat Buchanan and Palin), voting record and  

> education.

>

> All of the above  are all based on his actions, association and life  

> experiences.

>

> Cheers,

> Me

>

>

> At 08:40 PM 9/8/2008, Karen Weil wrote:

>> Oh, there's so many.

>> Like that he's a Muslim, that he was linked arm in arm with a 60s  

>> radical, that he wants to kill children.

>> Exorcist, you're just sounding like another Bush/McCain apologist.

>> And "that's not change we can believe in."

>>

>>

>> ----- Original Message -----

>> From: The Exorcist

>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 5:27 PM

>> Subject: Re: [kj] palin ban

>>

>> Liiikeee? Once again you fail to inject any substance.

>> Cheers,

>> Me

>> At 08:19 PM 9/8/2008, Karen Weil wrote:

>>>

>>> You mean, like the ones spread about Obama?

>>>

>>>

>>> ----- Original Message -----

>>> From: The Exorcist

>>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>>> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 5:11 PM

>>> Subject: Re: [kj] palin ban

>>>

>>> Hmmm, I sound like a GOP operative because I'm against blatant  

>>> lies and fictional

>>> ideas pulled out of thin air?

>>> Good to know.

>>> Sincerely,

>>> Me

>>> At 06:41 PM 9/8/2008, Karen Weil wrote:

>>>>

>>>> Because you just sound like a GOP operative; and if Obama had  

>>>> done or said half of some of the things Palin did, you'd be going  

>>>> ballistic.

>>>> Does Obama have his flaws? You'd better believe it. However, I'll  

>>>> take those any day over McCain's any day.  And maybe I'll stop  

>>>> with the "invective" when you stop with yours.

>>>> Fair enough?

>>>>

>>>> kw.

>>>> ----- Original Message -----

>>>> From: The Exorcist

>>>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>>>> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 2:59 PM

>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] palin ban

>>>> Rather than throwing invective it would be nicer to have a reply  

>>>> to my points.

>>>> Cheers,

>>>> Me

>>>> At 02:51 PM 9/8/2008, Karen Weil wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>> OK, Exorcist: Why don't you just go work for her campaign?

>>>>> kw..

>>>>> ----- Original Message -----

>>>>> From: The Exorcist

>>>>> To: fluw ; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2008 9:01 PM

>>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] palin ban

>>>>> Just like she did NOT ban any books nor did she try to IMPOSE  

>>>>> creationism in classes

>>>>> I think it's quite fair to state that she would NOT ban KJ  

>>>>> related stuff. If this is the most

>>>>> extreme stuff that you think exists you need to do a tad more  

>>>>> reading.

>>>>> It's nice to make presumptions based on no facts but reaching  

>>>>> for straws gets tiresome

>>>>> after a while does it not?

>>>>> At 08:33 PM 9/6/2008, fluw wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>> how many people on the gathering doubt if sarah palin were to  

>>>>>> become aware of killing joke cd's or, (haha finally) a jaz  

>>>>>> coleman book in a library, she would not have them banned?

>>>>>> as a killing joke fan, would you be apposed to this banning?

>>>>>> as your nations VP and following a very likely health failure  

>>>>>> from Mc Cain, she would then be your president and the most  

>>>>>> powerful nutcase in the world, are you comfortable with her  

>>>>>> decision making?

>>>>>> or would you rather she just go back to running cliff's state  

>>>>>> like a despot on a runaway train and get with a proper sex  

>>>>>> reassignment surgery and promptly get on with giving her twin  

>>>>>> wynona judd a stiff ass to mouth?

>>>>>> i vote for giving it to wynona

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>>> else's gain, and your gain is someone else's loss. Therefore,  

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>> Competition is a barbaric, insensitive ritual that reeks of social  

>> Darwinism.

>> We cannot allow the fittest to survive on our pages. Your loss is  

>> someone

>> else's gain, and your gain is someone else's loss. Therefore,  

>> losers contribute

>> to the society and winners take away from it. Being a winner is  

>> unethical, while

>> a society of losers is happy and striving as a collective. In the  

>> spirit of diversity,

>> inclusiveness, and collectivism our contests shall have no winners.

>> Everyone is declared a loser, which in our book means an ethical  

>> team player.

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> Competition is a barbaric, insensitive ritual that reeks of social  

> Darwinism.

> We cannot allow the fittest to survive on our pages. Your loss is  

> someone

> else's gain, and your gain is someone else's loss. Therefore, losers  

> contribute

> to the society and winners take away from it. Being a winner is  

> unethical, while

> a society of losers is happy and striving as a collective. In the  

> spirit of diversity,

> inclusiveness, and collectivism our contests shall have no winners.

> Everyone is declared a loser, which in our book means an ethical  

> team player.

>

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